Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)

[tender horizon]

Moltres will outheal

[chrome halo]

Maybe EXR is required

[copper helm]

EZ

2/5 exr lvl 150

And vigilance

Gonna record 2nd try

[shy sinew]

he has vigilance innate

[chrome halo]

He is the Mr. I Like Any Lucky Skill

[tender horizon]

I just tried terrakion 1/5 exr

It's also doable

Just need Ground Guard

[shy sinew]

honestly yeah

[tender horizon]

2/5 Arc Steven definitely can do Terrakion with potion mpr

[shy sinew]

I have 4/5 exr recorded and that solo is super nice if I gridded furious brawn instead of haymaker, I'm waiting on his orbs from the event to grid both though otherwise I will never spend those orbs

[sharp lichen]

I somehow got Arc Steven to 2/5 from banner so is it worth it to use 2 omni candies to 4/5? I got 4 omni candies total

[toxic kernel]

Yea easy

[shy sinew]

going to give torn some tries, what else are his blocker clears to 14?

[copper helm]

Oopsie
Gonna note that

I recorded the video

He should do this at 1/5

[river cliff]

If Blue can make 30% flinch work so can Steven

[sturdy steeple]

we are def doing everything we can at 1/5 currently

[chrome halo]

The problem is dmg race probably

[sharp lichen]

?

[stuck mantle]

Steven only torn is challenge for him

[river cliff]

He outdamages Blue and doesn't get debuffed so it should be easier

[shy sinew]

ok torn will die, midway through bar 3 and haven't used a single potion yet

[stuck mantle]

You did torn? Lok

[river cliff]

1/5?

[shy sinew]

about to

4/5 exr

[river cliff]

Ok that makes sense

[stuck mantle]

Ritch🤣

[shy sinew]

3/5 feels required

[stuck mantle]

Im poor skip arc banners🙂‍↔️

[copper helm]

I gonna send the record, just uploading it to yt

If there’s demand

[shy sinew]

yeah torn dead

[bitter gate]

idt Steven is gonna

beat Bianca's record

[river cliff]

Wonder if he'll top Lyra's 1/5 record

[sharp lichen]

Crazy how we got all 14 done in the first hour

[bitter gate]

it's gonna be a fast 14 for sure but

oh

he's done with it already?

[sharp lichen]

Yeah

[bitter gate]

damn

was it faster than Bianca lol

[sharp lichen]

Nah Moltres took like 2 hours

[tender crater]

Lol I beat Tornadus without a single potion

[shy sinew]

same

[shy sinew]

3/5?

[copper helm]

Now ya gonna make me feel confused with sending the video

[tender crater]

Nah 4/5

[shy sinew]

ah same

[tender crater]

Didn't think it would be so easy

[sharp lichen]

Oh so is it worth 4/5ing arc Steven?

[tender horizon]

No

[copper helm]

Can I lower Torn to 2/5?

[shy sinew]

idk about 2/5 but 3/5 yes

[river cliff]

Maybe with enough potion luck

[sharp lichen]

What abt just 3/5

[shy sinew]

honestly wait, steven seems like he'll have the lowest investment out of the 14 soloers

[tender horizon]

Sounds right

[tender crater]

With 4/5 it's an auto clear

[copper helm]

https://youtu.be/arCX4UDloSs?si=Rvl4Qg6Z8Vhys1-r okay here we go
Do I upload this?

[tender horizon]

Ye im not gonna invest in him if thts the case

[river cliff]

Good, mine's probably never going higher than 1/5

Yellow candies are too hard to come by

[tender horizon]

Gonna save my yelloe for arc suit diantha

[shy sinew]

well anyways time to absolutely shame moltres with 4/5

[river cliff]

There are probably going to be a dozen new arc suit pairs to worry about by the time I get two candies

[tender horizon]

4/5 does nothing extra to moltres

U cant debuff it

[tender crater]

4/5 is for other modes, pretty overkill here

[sharp lichen]

Well we know the next 3 arc suits are Bug, Dark, and Fire

[shy sinew]

I'm just doing it to have the clear personally recorded

[river cliff]

It's just a matter of how often they drop these guys

[tender horizon]

Ye maybe i will pull bug too

[copper helm]

I can’t find the submission link

[sharp lichen]

Yeah same I should save for arc suits only now tbh

[river cliff]

Probably isn't feasible without paid gems

[tender horizon]

They shudve made 4/5 unfortuitous on steven, then ppl wud really spend

[sharp lichen]

I mean it really depends on how often they release them

[tender horizon]

Ok i meant COULDve

[sharp lichen]

I have 40k gems left with 2/3 arc pairs

[tender horizon]

Dena SHOULDnt do this

[river cliff]

Well worst case it takes 5.5 months to pity 3 of them

So if they drop 3 at anni and half anni that's pretty rough

[tender horizon]

Means u dont pull for them

[lost juniper]

Sure go ahead

[copper helm]

I’d love to know where the link is now

[river cliff]

Yeah I'm pulling very sparingly on them

[copper helm]

Do you have the link?
I can’t find it

Is it on solo sheet?

[lost juniper]

For the solo sheet?

What link?

[shy sinew]

the link to submit a solo

[copper helm]

Yep

[lost juniper]

Yeah it is on the sheet

https://forms.gle/3tRNNVVWq1agPSKLA

Just sumbit the clear to here

[bitter gate]

so does steven hold the new fastest record now or

[sturdy steeple]

itll be hard to beat bianca because she does way more damage than him

[tender horizon]

Fastest not but lowest investment maybe

[lost juniper]

Yeah Steven is definitely winning the min invesment tier

[tender horizon]

Only if he clears everything

Otherwise competing with ss lyea

[shy sinew]

should I upload torn separately from my planned video where I do all 14 so that we have something to put on the sheet?

[shy notch]

I got to the end of bar 2 with 1/5 0/20. It’s possible I guess but gonna tough on bar 3

[toxic kernel]

As a simp i 5/5 Steven and he instantly killed moltres and tornadus in the 1st try

[sturdy steeple]

swag

[lost juniper]

How much it took you to get Steven?

[sturdy steeple]

4 multis thankfully

[lost juniper]

Oh that's really nice. I'm gonna go for him since Cynthia came early

[sturdy steeple]

wishing you luckk

[bitter gate]

steven was unkind to be but oh well

[lost juniper]

Worth it

[lost juniper]

So you're now doing every 1/5 solo?

Wonder how many he can get with 0 invesment

[bitter gate]

I didn't get him

lol

i just tried and failed

[sturdy steeple]

trying to do all 1/5 that i can

and ones rafasnot doing

[sharp lichen]

Just beat tornadus 3/5 EX

not EXR

Could honestly be lowered to 2/5

[copper helm]

Sent the vid now

[copper helm]

Gonna try Tornadus
Any tips?

[sharp lichen]

https://youtu.be/gRxf7F3RGr4?si=apMv_UfPB8WSAELt

[sharp lichen]

Use interference immunity lucky skill

No confusion or flinch which REALLY helps

[shy gale]

Really

[copper helm]

Hmm do I use Antitoxin tile?

[shy sinew]

for torn? don't need it

[graceful folio]

How is the new stove performing ?

[lost juniper]

Steven took me to full pity

[shy sinew]

he's already done all 14 at mostly low investment

[lost juniper]

Worth it

[graceful folio]

😂

[copper helm]

Same

[graceful folio]

The stove of all time

Very nice to hear

[stuck mantle]

Im just play for fun not try hard now😘

[copper helm]

How’s this for Torn?

[sharp lichen]

Why iron head move guage refresh

Well

Ig there’s nothing else to grab lol

[shy sinew]

id still want extra stats

[sharp lichen]

Well yeah

[tender horizon]

Enough solos, time to overkill

[dusk yoke]

steven is gonna have all 14 solos right

[sharp lichen]

He already does

[dusk yoke]

💀

[sharp lichen]

He has the easiest solos ngl

[dusk yoke]

i thought tornadus would be a problem

[shy sinew]

I'm pretty sure at 4/5 he can run the same 60 energy grid for all 14 too

[sharp lichen]

Same

[shy sinew]

tornadus is autoable at 4/5 at least

[dusk yoke]

damn

[sharp lichen]

Does he have issues with Latias at 3/5?

[shy sinew]

don't think so, I could always try ungridding my 4/5 tile but I was decidedly in the negatives at the end

[rotund rain]

he can solo even at 1/5

[sharp lichen]

nvm then

[tender horizon]

Ye easy latias

[sharp lichen]

With defense crush tho right?

[rotund rain]

https://youtu.be/F1VPp-o_AiI?si=BCJfSwl0wRTE42pG Defense Crush 2 gaming

[sharp lichen]

Yep

[rotund rain]

surprised Naomi did without EX

so it should be even easier with investment

[sharp lichen]

Honestly slippery slope is annoying but it helps out a lot of clears who can’t debuff more than 1 stat

[rotund rain]

Downside Up also gave him an advantage

[sharp lichen]

So even though it made things harder, it made a lot more runs accessible

Yeah with mud slap

[rotund rain]

yea

[sharp lichen]

There was no reason to give this guy downside up lmao

[shy sinew]

wandering stone enthusiast might just be the most broken passive ever

[rotund rain]

even if I particularly don't like to deal with bar 2 Latias, it does make runs more accessible 😂

[sharp lichen]

I checked and arc Steven technically has 10 passives

[sturdy steeple]

i actually got such bad dc2 luck this run 😭 it was not gaming as intended

[rotund rain]

that's in a way more impressive

[sturdy steeple]

its the 2 best passives in the game combined so yes

[sharp lichen]

More accessible 🥸

[sturdy steeple]

im not using skill gears yet so yeah even easier with any bit of investment or luck

literally all his solos are so easy

broken mfer

[shy sinew]

mine has used the same grid every time

4/5 but still

[rotund rain]

a friend of mine did his Moltres solo at high investment (for fun), and said it's the easiest Moltres solo lmao 😂

[sturdy steeple]

no doubt

[copper helm]

Tornadus at 2/5 needs potion mpr

[sharp lichen]

He needs 1 potion MPR

I did it 3/5 with no potion MPRs

[copper helm]

I didn’t get any this try 🫠

Did you use his bmove in bar 1?

[lost juniper]

Gridless, level 100, steel gear

1 try

[dusk yoke]

it's steven, thats the reason

[rotund rain]

lv.100 😭

[lost juniper]

When I said 0 invesment, I meant it

[rotund rain]

I'm curious how low his Latios solo goes

[sharp lichen]

Nah that’s foul 💀

[shy sinew]

renhoho will lower that to negative investment

[rotund rain]

I remember last year people were lowering NC Blue's Latios solo to just lv.100

[sturdy steeple]

steven does have the most downside up units (and base has impervious)

[lost juniper]

Yeah. I was inspired from that lmao

[sturdy steeple]

reminder i do not count level on the sheet

because thats very silly to do

[lost juniper]

I know I know

It was mostly to test if he can

[sturdy steeple]

very funny tho

[lost juniper]

And how low can I truly go

[copper helm]

He’s so OP

[lost juniper]

I saw you didn't do Regirock yet so I have a chance

[copper helm]

I wish his banner didn’t have 500 pity bs

Now I can’t pull Dragonite…

[lost juniper]

I have enough for Dragonite but I'll wait

I can't afford to pity Lance too

I guess I'll do the Latios solo too

[copper helm]

Yup, we’re then “no pity for Lance” besties

I wanted Dnite…
And Lear

[true tartan]

waiting for Cobalion and Regirock to be uploaded

[shy sinew]

what's min investment on Cobalion rn?

[sturdy steeple]

1/5

mines uploading

[shy sinew]

cool

[lost juniper]

Latios done too

0 difficulty

[true tartan]

in case people wonder for now lol

both Regirock and Coba are "done", just being uploaded

[stuck mantle]

So he did 14? Yes

[lost juniper]

I did level 100 btw

[true tartan]

I literally mentioned that to naomi lol

[lost juniper]

Uploading soon

[true tartan]

if I get him eventually, I'd try to do "the lowest level possible" with him haha

[stuck mantle]

Jesus steven king

[lost juniper]

I would love to see that

[true tartan]

yep, it'd be fun to do lol

[lost juniper]

He's hilariously broken

[stuck mantle]

Sadly i skipp🤣 hope lear will be good too:)

[shy sinew]

alright I've cleared all 14 4/5 exr with the same grid and I think without using a single potion, time to get some sleep

[copper helm]

Oof so my vid won’t be on the main sheet 😂😂😂

[true tartan]

at least you got this...

[sturdy steeple]

itll be in the other runs section dw

[true tartan]

first clear entry lol

[rotund rain]

ah, it's been 4.5 years (I think) since Lucky Skills were added and people still give Vigilance on an innate Vigilance pair 😂

[graceful folio]

Double vigilance > your fav ls

[rotund rain]

some stuff never dies

[graceful folio]

[shy sinew]

Wandering Stone Enthusiast has no business existing

they put way too many words on his kit and all of them are bangers

[lost juniper]

I almost soloed Raikou too

I can probably do it with electric guard

[copper helm]

That was oppsie slapp 🤣🤣🤣

I’m happy to contribute

[bitter gate]

So is Bianca still officially the fastest

[copper helm]

Need to get my revenge on stupid green genie now

[stuck mantle]

She did in 1h all 14

So prob yes

[copper helm]

Yep, haha i wanted to be quick for this

[bitter gate]

Didn't Steven also do all within the hour tho

[copper helm]

Now idk if save (16k gems now)

[tender crater]

He did Torn and Moltres in less than an hour which were the "hardest"

[copper helm]

Was 63-65k gems until pity

[shy sinew]

and Torn only took as long as it did because no antigimmick for bar 3 means the fight is just long

[true tartan]

there we go

[shy sinew]

it’s beautiful

[true tartan]

may Lance join the high ranks?

[sharp lichen]

Just lowered cresselia

[shy sinew]

I have Terrakion lowered to remove the energy cap but I think it can go a lot lower than that if it hasn’t yet

[tender crater]

Lance will have 12.5% healing

Calling it

[bitter gate]

Steven be like:

[copper helm]

What are ya pulling after Steven?

[true tartan]

could you put here the Gear you used?

I want to add it on the document

[sharp lichen]

https://imgur.com/a/SvLshOV

my b

I got one more video coming your way

[true tartan]

is noting bad haha

was it the same for both clears?

[sharp lichen]

Yeah

[sharp lichen]

Just sent another for Terrakion

[shy gale]

Elaine needing max investment for 14

[sharp lichen]

Wait if I have a sync pair at 3/5 can I submit a 2/5 clear if I use a 2/5 grid?

[true tartan]

well

[bitter gate]

Cut Elaine some slack hue

[true tartan]

you're free to do but someone will eventually do it lol

move levels still make you hit harder

mostly in the sync

[sharp lichen]

Ah

Cuz all of the 3/5 clears can be done at 2/5 with some decent potion luck

Cresselia should be easy since revenge boost 4 is at 2/5

[lost juniper]

Lance, but not now

[true tartan]

you'd just need pinpoint entry 2 tbh

so you ensure most of the moves with it

[sturdy steeple]

I just invested to 2/5, doing some runs now

[blissful rose]

Wow, Steven is so cheap on most solos.

[copper helm]

Thankfully

If he was 5/5….
Then it would be a disaster

[lost juniper]

https://youtu.be/aaz2fifb_no?si=N7MR2ep4k0z2-GGK

I'm not on my computer so thumbnail in about a week

[lost juniper]

https://youtu.be/-z5ujzjm0Ck?si=_aqVNZJv0KtR90HB

Latios

[vagrant crypt]

https://youtu.be/IuPJYT9evho?si=R43Dwl0mn1E82l6v

[lost juniper]

Let's go!!!

[vagrant crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-excited-happy-squirtle-hihihi-gif-7937582

I'll post the gears in 5 minutes.

[stuck mantle]

1/5 lol

Steven is too broken

[vagrant crypt]

Skill Gears :

Bracelet : 30HP, 75Atk, 25Def
•Ground P-Move DR & S-Move DR 5%
•Attack Move DR 3%
•Flying Zone: P-Move DR & S-Move DR 5%

Bandana : 30Hp, 80SpAtk, 15SpDef
•Physical S-Move DR 4%
•Steel P-Move DR & S-Move DR 4%
•Grass P-Move DR & S-Move DR 5%

Pin : 100Hp, 15Def, 20SpAtk
•Status Cond : S-Moves up 4%
•Ghost Zone : Moves up 4%
•Atk Moves DR 3%

Lucky skill : CS2.

[sturdy steeple]

we love to see it

[chrome halo]

Oops the 14 club gender balance is broken

If only AS Cynthia could solo the moon duck

[tender crater]

it will be even more broken once Lance comes

[stuck mantle]

Lance vs cress and molters?

[tender crater]

should be possible

[stuck mantle]

Maybe but super hard

[tender crater]

high investment though

[stuck mantle]

He can miss

[tender crater]

he can't

[stuck mantle]

Cant low molters sts

[tender crater]

one of his base passives is no miss

[stuck mantle]

A dragon shit

Yeap then he can get cress for sure

But when he have -3 speed vs moltres?

This will be realy hard

[quaint tartan]

We have been waiting 5 years to write this

[sturdy steeple]

got torn at 2/5

i also got cress and terrak at 2/5 but terrak was lowered and i definitely believe cress can be done at 1/5 as well

shouldve done cress before candying smh

[vagrant crypt]

1EXR on Moltres can also be done.
The duo is crazy hahahah. 🤣

[sturdy steeple]

with a bajillion flinches yeah definitely ehehe

for now imma do 3/5 moltres

[vagrant crypt]

Good luck!

[sturdy steeple]

thankyu

goodluck on your attempts too

[lost juniper]

How hard was it?

[sturdy steeple]

needed like 4+ potion MPRs

it couldve been less with a luckier bar 1 and 2

but with investment into him it would be stupid easy

[lost juniper]

0/20?

[sturdy steeple]

yeah

1/5 is probably doable with great gears

1/5 ex r that is

[vagrant crypt]

1/5 EXR on Moltres. 🫡

✅

[sturdy steeple]

[lost juniper]

Yeah. I'll get EX R on 1/9

[tender crater]

450 defenses are absurd

[lost juniper]

I'll do a 14 solo complilation

Like Azzy (well he did 11 but it was all at the time)

[tawdry rock]

hey guys what's the current/potential solos for arc steven? thanks!!!

[sturdy steeple]

lots at 1/5

[lost juniper]

All of them

11 at 1/5

[tawdry rock]

hi naomi sup. I see.

oh that's good XD

[lost juniper]

He's broken af

[sturdy steeple]

best gauntlet unit in the game

[tawdry rock]

https://tenor.com/view/surprise-chris-pratt-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-shocked-gif-14966566

[bitter gate]

That's balanced

[sturdy steeple]

also best basekit in the game

[lost juniper]

One of the funniest too

[vagrant crypt]

https://youtu.be/KXs4c9epwXM?si=ljqd0b4j76CGkucB

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/9004/37600?s=1&l=140&r=6&p=0&a=17010201&g=AAECAwQFCgsMDQ4UFRYeHyAhIigpKiss

[bitter gate]

whoah, what the fuck

he can actually solo it lol

at 1/5

[tawdry rock]

the steven treatment is real, this was the 2nd time he gets op all rounder unit

ok hear me out. I'm one multi away before I get my first copy.
really nice to see that he clears most stuff at 1/5.

[vagrant crypt]

#1012311116778586182 message
Same G.S. but lucky skill : Flameproof.

[gleaming cypress]

steven sweep?

[tawdry rock]

wtf XD he tank so good + sustain and does good dmg

https://tenor.com/view/barack-obama-gif-14713645611577259969

[sturdy steeple]

steven sweep

[tawdry rock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1231232626275127306.gif?quality=lossless&name=kemusanCat&size=48

[sturdy steeple]

sceptilefan got cress at 1/5

only tornadus left who needs candies

[lost juniper]

Damn 0/20 cress?

[feral plank]

Atleast is only 1 candy needed

[vagrant crypt]

He had 2% hp left...

[sturdy steeple]

[feral plank]

[blissful rose]

[worthy horizon]

glad i can leave steven at 1/5 and not worry too much about missing levels, picked him up 6th multi

[dawn plume]

lol he got all 14 in like an hour??

yeah nice kit dena

[vagrant crypt]

[graceful folio]

Steven "el futbol" Stone

Redemption

[gleaming cypress]

one stevenillion LA solos

[vagrant crypt]

https://youtu.be/FcpYsswCXHw?si=KQT2ANOQZ0cz70dK

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/9004/37600?s=1&l=140&r=6&p=0&a=13010602&g=AAECAwQFCgsMDQ4UFRYXGB4fICEiKCkqKyw

#1012311116778586182 message
Lucky skill : CS2.

[gleaming cypress]

not even a premium LS? damn

[dawn plume]

cs2 doesnt even help vs bar 3 lol wow

thats wild

[vagrant crypt]

Yes, Interference Immunity is the best in the end...

[pearl beacon]

Wow he's that bulky?

To just bulldoze everything

[gleaming cypress]

triage tank 9

a passive with downside up to render stat drops useless

highest base defenses period after mega I think as well

this is him at basically min investment

very bulky

[dense spire]

Only other character that’s as bulky is mega Luke

And Steven can also slap sterner stuff for good measure

Not that he really needs that anyway

[dawn plume]

def form deoxys is still the bulkiest

[gleaming cypress]

this is mega lucario

[dawn plume]

steven is 1st and 2nd though lmao

[gleaming cypress]

is this third?

[dawn plume]

i think so

[gleaming cypress]

whats the defenses like on deoxys defense

[dense spire]

Steven at 5/5 Exr is 461 on both with 850 hp

Deo is 488 on both with 856 hp

So defense is indeed slightly bulkier

But it doesn’t have any DR passives

Nor MF or multi dr

[pearl beacon]

SsSteven scales differently

This is what a +50 def gear looks on him

But then it comes down to mitigation passives
Thats why cBede is so bulky

[dawn plume]

the 1st and 2nd bulkiest pairs in the game based purely off stats both being steven is so funny

[sturdy steeple]

runs... have been.. added.. once again...

[dawn plume]

and neither of them are support pairs (but both have support exr)

[inner turret]

Supports in disguise

[sturdy steeple]

ok so yeah best unit in the game

[pearl beacon]

Holy...

Crepes

[dawn plume]

well

[pearl beacon]

Good thing we don't have to waste candies

[inner turret]

Im scared of next year anni

[dawn plume]

blue will reclaim his throne (arc suit blastoise)

[pearl beacon]

Pidgeot

[inner turret]

Bleakwind Hurricane

[tender horizon]

Did yall know that only 3 sync pairs are dragon weak

Tf

[dawn plume]

yea and 2 of them are n

its weird

they dont wanna make dragon pairs weak to dragon since a lot of dragon weak stages use dragon moves

thats why clair has dragon guard on her grid ig

[tender horizon]

Good i dont need candy him yet

[wide citrus]

Update when

[bitter gate]

jesus

[blissful rose]

Jesus, I'll keep him at 1/5.

[errant plume]

This is so funny when you guys debated on which stage the Atk debuffs were useful

[bitter gate]

turns out he's so fat he doesn't even need them

lel

[errant plume]

Suffering from success

[keen flint]

Metagross redemption day

[tender horizon]

The future Steel weak ultimate battle that will have 1.5M hp due to steven

[keen flint]

Let’s get that busted horizontal grid expansion for the base pair now

[lost juniper]

He kinda already has it

With a pair this broken he doesn't need it

[blissful rose]

I can see them giving Critical Eye, Quick Combo, Towering Force and Furious Brawn to him given he is the only one that doesn't have a horizontal expansion among the three champions.

[robust nymph]

one more to the 14 solo stairwell!

[scenic bolt]

Weewoo

[thick dust]

What the
What the fuck?

[sharp lichen]

better than NC blue 🥸

[worthy horizon]

expected

[dawn plume]

his tm is called “We’re the Strongest!” because he is not lying

[thick dust]

He is tired being called a fraud

[worthy horizon]

at least 14/14 was expected, the low investment is still v impressive

[lost juniper]

At soloing gauntlet, he's truly the best there is

[shy sinew]

He got me my first personal 14/14 but yeah 1/5 across the board is literally unbeatable

[tender horizon]

Arc steven clearly bait

Steven alway bait

Arc Suit Acerola will 1/5 All LG no need EXR

[inner turret]

1/5 0/20 non ex non r no skill gear

[lost juniper]

At level 100 too

[river cliff]

Or 4*

[thick dust]

Soon there'll be a unit with 0/5 across the board

[quaint tartan]

Did Steven get 14/14?

wtf at 1/5 everything

[bitter gate]

By the first ish hour yes

And with only 1/5

[quaint tartan]

We Steven Stan stay winning today

[bitter gate]

Le balanced

[quaint tartan]

….after all these years…..

[bitter gate]

You guys had SS Steven two years ago

Pls

[lost juniper]

But we had Anni Steven before so...

SS and this unit are the only Steven units with many solos

[bitter gate]

And remember when ss Steven was the shit

Now we get a better one

Now to wait for Lance's 14

[spice grail]

Is this actually real?

[heavy sinew]

Holy power creep

[wide citrus]

A New King Had Risen

[lost juniper]

We need a new Steven emote like we got for AS Cynthia

[blissful rose]

For someone with the abbreviation of ASS, he is certainly not one.

[dawn plume]

glad i got him early steven alts always treat me nicely

not 1st multi early like anni steven but i won’t complain

[tight rivet]

cynthia could get 14 if it wasnt for terra firma right

[kind imp]

Probably

[gleaming cypress]

yeah

[rotund rain]

yea

[gleaming cypress]

ground units when cress has terra firma 10 (they literally can’t do anything)

[rotund rain]

Ground Units needs Piercing Blows to do something against Cress

or a coverage move

[dawn plume]

idk why they designed cress like that

[tight rivet]

levitate

but like its stupid

[dawn plume]

like half of the LAs are flying type or have levitate in the core series but only cress has the i hate ground types passive

[kind imp]

Moltres also has the hate fire types but it's more balanced

Double fire guard

[rocky oasis]

moltres dies to fire syncs

[gleaming cypress]

double grass guard bulu when

[tight rivet]

kid named silver ss morty duo

[rocky oasis]

any flincher + ss red wipes moltres too

[dawn plume]

i wonder if the 1/5 ex r solos can be lowered further

maybe just 1/5 w cake

or 20/20

[scenic bolt]

Asssss

Arc cynthia has honorary 14 cuz crescellia is a meanie

Now lance

Join them

[plush nimbus]

You’re a week late to the party I was saying this since his kit was revealed lol

Now that he did THAT to LG i think we can put him above Blue now

[river cliff]

I think I'd still take Blue in several of the UBs

[lost juniper]

I think they should be able to be lowered

[river cliff]

Infinite aoe debuffs are pretty good

And speed buffs

[scenic bolt]

Lg has not much bearing on 3v3

[shy notch]

Made it half bar 3 on Moltres with 1/5 20/20. Died to hurricane confusion

1/5 0/20 is possible but painful

[gleaming cypress]

moltres has hurricane?

do you mean torn

[shy notch]

Yeah Moltres has hurricane

Felt like a Torn moment there

[dawn plume]

thankfully to his self rebuff, moltres’s steel wing is no problem!

[shy notch]

Still wish the EX gave an extra self rebuff

1/5 20/20 done

[shy gale]

Wow Steven's cracked

[keen flint]

Got Steven at 496 scout points at least I get 2/5 without candies

[dawn plume]

500 scout points is so ass its so depressing

and they’re gonna drop master fairs like monthly now apparently

whyyyy

[river cliff]

I'm really afraid of them doing that

If they show up that often my pulling every master fair quest is over

[pearl beacon]

Greedy

[river cliff]

Also this is the first month in a very long time without a single pokefair

[pearl beacon]

They delayed the genpool just to cover a bit what they did

Tho they're making more moneys than last year so the new game director know how to milk a game

[river cliff]

I guess that's a good thing?

[pearl beacon]

For them

[river cliff]

I mean as long as it prolongs the game's life I'm for it

[pearl beacon]

Its a double edged sword

[tender horizon]

Imagine all it took was a synchro healing unit that has 30% flinch but broken stats

[tiny hedge]

I just saw this WHAT

[gleaming cypress]

LA then: we expect you to use around 30 kitted units to clear one very hard stage
LA now: so yeah this pair solos every stage with his 1/5 base kit (exr optional)

[tiny hedge]

WAIT, how did Steven deal with tornadus!?

[gleaming cypress]

brute force

[inner turret]

built different

and skill gears

[plush nimbus]

Just the fact that Steven brute forced Torn at 1/5 is insane

[inner turret]

his grid doesnt give much

[plush nimbus]

This feels like Steven just set a new bar similar to TRed

[vagrant crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-stone-steven-stone-pokemon-oras-steven-stone-pokemon-steven-stone-pokemon-oras-gif-8551351223011612907

[inner turret]

he has a very cracked base kit but it comes at the pryce of a mid grid (which is nice, no need for candies lol)

[plush nimbus]

Not needing any candies when you need to focus on upwards of 500 units is huge, and prior to this getting all 1/5 solos was unheard of

I don’t even know if moltres had a 1/5 at all

[plush nimbus]

Potion refresh, increased flinch rate, and the 4/5 tile is really all he needs tbh

[inner turret]

"the 4/5 tile"

[plush nimbus]

His base kit is so complete as is that it doesn’t matter

[plush nimbus]

Yeah so that he does NCBlue’s job but better

Literally the exact same job in LG, and even in other content bc only Mid’s attack matters

[chrome halo]

eh one can argue that NC Blue is better at UB

And similar content

[plush nimbus]

Ofc blue will be better, our strikers are special

[chrome halo]

But they are pretty much at the same level

[plush nimbus]

The game was balanced around him bc he was an earlier release

He’s only used more by basically cheating

And he’s very lucky that his type is the same as TRed who is #3 in the game

[wide citrus]

SS Lyra

But that’s pretty new

[plush nimbus]

I thought Lyra needed 3/5

[wide citrus]

No she can 1/5 with EXR

[plush nimbus]

Oh field

Whoops

[gleaming cypress]

he’s lucky to have ash which activates all of his passives and the master fair boost

and obviously insane levels of damage from b thunderbolt

[plush nimbus]

No it’s TRed

Ash’s time is running out fast for hard content

The blue rats team already lost on the first UB, and he’s by far the most replaceable of the 3

[gleaming cypress]

I do have TRed at 3/5 but no nc blue and I sure wished he hit harder so I could beat more UBs

[river cliff]

B thunderbolt is sure great at finishing that last 40% tho

[plush nimbus]

Yeah but he’s so much worse without both of them

And without either, forget it

[river cliff]

True

[gleaming cypress]

now that you say it ash does look like a one trick pony

[plush nimbus]

Ash is effectively one B move

[gleaming cypress]

TRed has more versatility

[plush nimbus]

Syncing with him over TRed is insane, especially when TRed’s AOE wants a good ST nuke

And non B Bolt dps is just not it for a top team

[gleaming cypress]

well if I somehow get to choose between ash and nc blue I know which one to get

ig

[plush nimbus]

If you’re waiting for blue then don’t make the same mistake again with Steven

[sturdy steeple]

They've got tradeoffs to eachother

[plush nimbus]

In theory yes

There’s a lot of pros and cons, even besides physical vs special

But Steven has PMUN per move use, and Blue has no Equivalent

That one addition is so fkn stupid that it breaks the competition

[sturdy steeple]

Blues damage amp comes from his 20% sync up tile, but that doesn't compare to pmun spamming

[plush nimbus]

I get that Blue Rats is super optimal but in general Steven teams are totally gonna do more dmg

Yeah it’s just not the same

[sturdy steeple]

Steven also has way better sustain

[plush nimbus]

Blue plays nice with TRed but Steven’s just generally better at supporting the overall roster of the game

And that kind of makes the comparison easy

[plush nimbus]

Potion vs roost is also something i like for steven, even though that’s a hot take

Blue has a nasty habit of 1. Being absolute trash in LG with timing roosts and having to stall on syncs

And 2. Having the second roost being a glorified Potion anyway

[sturdy steeple]

They're both so op that a discussion about one being better than the other doesn't really accomplish anything

Yeah roost is strong and all but it's big downside is only 2 uses

[plush nimbus]

The no refresh is so bad

[vagrant crypt]

👍

[sturdy steeple]

We looove double mpr potions in this house

[plush nimbus]

The funny thing is Steven is SO busted that he doesn’t even need it ☠️

Not even on Torn with no para

Like wtf is that

[sturdy steeple]

Triage tank is very strong

[plush nimbus]

I feel like he just set a new top standard for LG solos

Similar to TRed’s all solos 2 years ago

[pearl beacon]

Would love to auto every solo

[sturdy steeple]

I wouldn't say standard, but he definitely reached an accomplishment never done before

[gleaming cypress]

TRed still needs 3/5 and lucky flinches to beat bird tho

which can be very irritating

[plush nimbus]

I mean you don’t need to give him candies at all

That’s huge resource management

[karmic willow]

man

i can already imagine

in the future

every character can do 14

on anniversary

[sturdy steeple]

me triple candying him anyways cause he's awesome

[karmic willow]

and then someone just

drops in with

"oh yeah no new bullshit lg that requires you to have TWO characters"

"but hey, our new character has a mechanic that can split themselves"

[plush nimbus]

Nah i do Cynthia first bc i’m a HS player and Cynthia’s the best unit for that event

[karmic willow]

idk this game REALLY needs more gimmicky unit

[plush nimbus]

And now with Cynthia and Lance, AND my VERY good pull luck allowing me to grab the selects, my roster went from “eh” to busted

[gleaming cypress]

2 more resets and lance will steamroll every LG

[plush nimbus]

Will he?

[gleaming cypress]

though his investment levels may differ from that of steven

[plush nimbus]

I don’t know if i have faith in him

[gleaming cypress]

me neither

[plush nimbus]

He’s kinda frail

[tender crater]

Frail?

[plush nimbus]

I don’t think he survives harder stages

[gleaming cypress]

and flinch odds are low on his end

for bird

only 30%?

[plush nimbus]

He does have flinch

Which is the only thing saving him for LG

[tender crater]

He has multiscale

And lots of healing

[plush nimbus]

I wasn’t a fan of his bulk tho

[tender crater]

267 defenses is low to you?

That is NC Leaf level

[sturdy steeple]

He's definitely not frail, it's moreso a question of can he beat Moltres (with constant 30% procs yes)

[gleaming cypress]

see, bird has sun and bird's defenses can't be dropped under sun

[plush nimbus]

That’s super high inv tho, and Leaf has potions and lowers atks

[gleaming cypress]

his b hyper beam relies on def and spdef drops to do more damage

and so does his sync iirc

[tender crater]

High investment being EXR and lv 150

[plush nimbus]

I don’t think it’s a BIG deal, but i can see him struggling on like Terra or Regi, but the flinch does carry there

His kit kind of reminds me of NCSerena if that makes sense

And Cerena is a little awkward at times

[chrome halo]

I did say that both are on the same level later, but yeah they do have different useful niches

[sturdy steeple]

He's gonna be fine vs regi

[plush nimbus]

I meant steel, i forgot that means 2 stages

[sturdy steeple]

He's gonna be fine vs the regis

[plush nimbus]

Although regirock pisses me off more bc his gimmick is bs

It doesn’t make him the hardest but I really like lowering stats and he just hits me with the “No 🤡”

[pearl beacon]

My issue w Lance is mainly abt resources
We get like 3 omni candies x year
So if you don't have the candy bundle you're pretty much fucked the moment you get him

[plush nimbus]

Eh i felt lance was the least in need of candy

[sturdy steeple]

I think all three of these arc suit units have absurdly good base kits to make up for that fact

[plush nimbus]

I assume you get all 3 right

[sturdy steeple]

One can hope...

[plush nimbus]

You might miss one?

I always assumed you were a whale, so i didn’t think you’d be short on gems

[sturdy steeple]

I've been relying on luck

[plush nimbus]

I got my luck already, i got a 5th on Cynthia and an 8th on Steven

So less than 1 for 2 units

I’m in the clear

[sturdy steeple]

I'm not opposed to spending and I do so if I like the unit but yes I'm strapped for gems

[plush nimbus]

Tbh we all are if we’re not whales, i went in with 100k and bc i don’t have SSKris i was in deep shit

[gleaming cypress]

i got cynthia on 9th multi but steven on the 4th

[inner turret]

in this house we skip lance (steven shafted me )

[gleaming cypress]

which means i'm not guaranteed arc lance

but very close to it

unless i find some other source of gems

at 14k rn

[plush nimbus]

I have like 70k left into Lance

It’s very rare that I get unlucky in a pull month, which i’m grateful for

The only time that happened was 4.5 where i got pretty much all pities

But I got 1/400 NCRosa, First multi Double NCNate, and a Daily on Leon in 1 month prior so i kinda deserved it

[sturdy steeple]

we love to see it

[plush nimbus]

i did the calcs and I got Rosa, Nate, TRed, Cynthia, and Leon all for the price of less than 1 pity

[inner turret]

bruh

[plush nimbus]

[inner turret]

get out

[plush nimbus]

hey it came around in 4.5

[pearl beacon]

Would you prioritize Steven first?

[plush nimbus]

If ur an LG prob no

Potion MPR and Flinch +20% is nice but you should be used to resetting

And 3 candies for the 4/5 is not a great use when you can focus on the others first i feel

Especially considering Cynthia and Lance are HS gods and steven takes a seat

[pearl beacon]

Ye

[gleaming cypress]

as busted as an arc unit may be, they can only do one solo

[pearl beacon]

I stopped doing HS so can enjoy low lvl stuff

[gleaming cypress]

it's called diminishing returns

more candy = more likely to do solo

[plush nimbus]

That is true

[gleaming cypress]

but you can also candy a different unit

and have 2 solos but one is slightly harder

[plush nimbus]

Are there any solos that suck ass at 1/5 and you’d want to make easier

[gleaming cypress]

alot, yes

thats if i candy for LG tho

rn DC looks more appealing for me to candy, personally

[plush nimbus]

Then Cynthia

[sturdy steeple]

terrak moltres tornadus are pretty tight at 1/5 but are so much easier with a single candy (or a second unit lol)

[plush nimbus]

Or Lance

[pearl beacon]

Yeah
My investments are going to DC BR

Or a mix of the two

I try to list down what I can and I want

[plush nimbus]

Terrakion consistently showing how hard he is

[gleaming cypress]

got 2 tech candies so if i get lance i can candy him for DC so lol

and i also need to EXR arc cynthia

[plush nimbus]

Terrakion’s the worst bc he’s super hard but he’s not infamous

So he can come out of nowhere and ruin your run

I don’t roll my eyes as much when he’s on the roster as Moltres

[gleaming cypress]

what are y'all predictions for next LG

[plush nimbus]

Hopefully something easier after everyone’s favorite burnt chicken

[gleaming cypress]

we've had this exact same LG like twice before right

maybe they'd repeat? idk

[plush nimbus]

Moltres Latias is like a classic

I’ve seen that combo 5 times i feel

[pearl beacon]

Lg9 was Coba Entei Azelf
This if they keep tecycling the pattern

[plush nimbus]

I would not complain about that lineup

[pearl beacon]

But Raikou instead Entei would be a ice debut

[plush nimbus]

Ez entei bullying with Dojo Gloria for free cookies

My record is 1:05 per clear

[pearl beacon]

I'm still up w cookies bcs of that round
Farmed like hell

[plush nimbus]

I have 0 2* and 3* deluxes

[gleaming cypress]

give us raikou so arc cynthia can beat it pre-sync

i love cookie farming!

[plush nimbus]

Entei is still easier

Bc Gloria has sync CD on TM

And a max to take 1 bar

[lost juniper]

Gloria probably has the fastest kill out of any arena

I'm pretty sure someone did a sub-minute clear

[wicked tusk]

100,000th message

YIPPIE I did it!!

[kind imp]

I think it's been at 100k+ for a while tbh

[raw perch]

[versed badge]

https://x.com/EEVEEmath/status/1829567686516601177?t=L6yu946CNgsNwRT5tX-xyw&s=19

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Lmao.

[raw perch]

Level 1 clear 😭

[rotund rain]

This is straight up foul 😭😭😭

[kind imp]

Video https://www.youtube.com/live/qXcWRTxjKno?t=1313

[raw perch]

It isn’t even hard to do 😭 😭 😭

[young wing]

Summoned for him just cos I saw this pic and got him in 2 multis

[rocky oasis]

level 1 exr

wild

[shy notch]

Damn I had notifications disabled while I was recording but that didn’t stop the low battery message from appearing 💀

[sturdy steeple]

an update on steven, thanks to daze

[gleaming cypress]

lower latios to LV.1 + EXR

[sturdy steeple]

i do not count levels

but im adding it to the other runs section anyways

[rocky oasis]

exp mats are easy asf to get

[lost juniper]

No EX

[dawn plume]

1/5 no ex needed on all lmaoooo

[versed badge]

When the support
Has 400 atk and free gauge 3 bar move

[gleaming cypress]

no champion spirits? no problem

arc steven has you covered

[dawn plume]

i will not ex him bc it ruins quadqueues (im joking i want the song key and support exr)

[sturdy steeple]

definitely helps for some of those harder solos too

also he deserves it <3

[hearty haven]

i chose the absolute stupidest team for Moltres that somehow actually worked for this gauntlet

the power of lodge volo compels you.

5/5 EX level 150 lodge Volo

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=029700044300&s0=5&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=18040702&t0=4421&g0=AAECAwQFERIVGBkeHyEjKCkq&v1=015400045001&s1=5&l1=143&r1=5&p1=1&a1=18020501&t1=44211&g1=AAECAwQFFRgfICMlJyorLC8&v2=020400064500&s2=1&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=18040802&t2=31121&g2=AAECAwQFERMaGxweJSco

Volo was the last survivor and finished off moltres, i regret not recording

[urban tapir]

I have a question for you guys - how many solos does arc Cynthia have?

[hearty haven]

depends on her move level but... a lot

i think thas goes for the three anni units this year

especially steven

[hearty haven]

a fair amount.

[dawn plume]

all but 1 lol

fun fact she’s the only member of the 13/14 club walled by cresselia

all the others are walled by moltres or tornadus

[hearty haven]

how do you even test out a team if the gauntlet is over? dont the conditions change for each gauntlet? pr do people just run e through legendary arena...

[dawn plume]

legendary arena

the conditions are the same

[urban tapir]

Why did they make arc Steven this op he literally solos all the legendary arenas smh

[dawn plume]

because steven is very handsome and deserves 7 pairs

all very broken

unfortunately only 2 are broken 🥲

[gleaming cypress]

anni steven and lodge steven

we should rank every steven someday

which steven would you place at top and which would you consider least useful

[hearty haven]

thanks

[hearty haven]

ill be able to submit this stupid as hell team then

[dawn plume]

well its bloody obvious who the top steven is now

i think either base summer or lodge steven are the worst steven

leaning base

[sturdy steeple]

base steven is still pretty great as a unit...

for LG at least

[hearty haven]

wait i forgot how do you get rid of latias's damage nullification status

debuff, right?

[dawn plume]

yes

[hearty haven]

thanks

[shy sinew]

we can still go lower on Steven vs Latios

1/5 0/20 level 1 when?

[inner turret]

Impossible

You have no stats

[true tartan]

that is impossible lol

[inner turret]

I tried

[true tartan]

you could try to get the stats of the EX R

by pushing it up in pomatools

EX R with full Gear

[versed badge]

20/20 Is bare min for lvl 1

Those 100 hp 40 stats are ALL the difference

[wicked tusk]

Nope, it was at 999,999 until I sent that

[lost juniper]

https://youtu.be/txzPPezUPbg?si=OiOqeq_ArEPn6hmb

Auto solo on Moltres

[true tartan]

Steven can be the first trainer to have 2 full LAs if someone pulls the Tornadus solo

Summer Steven can solo Raikou too, if someone is willing to do so

[lost juniper]

https://youtu.be/wU_ZtFSHVBo?si=EEG0CwpTfmeuAN4_

There was a 20/20 clear for Torn too

[true tartan]

yeah, I added it

but i think I didn't sort it

well, going to recheck

[lost juniper]

Also, Rafa lowered Alt Leon to 3/5 EX on Azelf, it's on nao's doc but not on yours

[dawn plume]

finally a new auto team for moltres

[lost juniper]

I mean you still only have 3

[true tartan]

there

[shy sinew]

spring burgh gets all of his relevant solo stuff at 2/5 right? I have a support candy to spend and I think he's my best target in my box

[true tartan]

mael erasure

[inner turret]

to be fair

at this point it's nao's doc

she could make drastic changes to it and i wouldnt notice because i barely got on it

[true tartan]

and finished adding the reports there

[sturdy steeple]

thank you

[dawn plume]

oop wrong channel

[shy notch]

Hoping to see SS Steven pull off Tornadus someday. He can get to bar 3 at 3/5 EXR but really wants 5/5 EXR so he can run flying guard LS instead of Mind Games 2

[true tartan]

yep, he should be able to do it too

but is a matter of MPR

[shy notch]

Bar 3 is tricky since recover can be flinched/confused unlike potion

I had considered interference immunity for that alone

[heavy sinew]

That one's for the auto doc kek

[dawn plume]

got dc gladion to 2/5

i have like 500 tickets i'll save them for silver

next dc reset i can get gladion 3/5

unless he's fine at 2/5 idk

[rocky oasis]

the latias solo wants 5/5

raikou doesnt seem to be worth more investment

[dawn plume]

i aint doin all that

[dawn plume]

alrighty

moltres better not show its face around me ever again

[vital ibex]

if anyone's insane enough i guess lol

this was already with pretty good freeze luck

[sturdy steeple]

Yike

[vital ibex]

tbf idk what my strat should be

this was my grid

vigil ls

[worthy horizon]

all the details i could find

[heavy sinew]

probably with good skill gear and luck

both skill based

[worthy horizon]

the skill is not losing your mind in the resets

[rocky oasis]

got raikou down to 75% of bar 3. def have a sync ready for the transition

grab hasty hail

[vital ibex]

ah ok

grid?

[worthy horizon]

level 50 did this first try lol

[true tartan]

no extra invest, right?

[worthy horizon]

yea 0/20 but skill gear

[true tartan]

lol nice

[worthy horizon]

k got a recording where i waited until -5 spa, even more free

still so broken i don't feel like i actually did anything but here, no lucky skill too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yCxUfzwTXY

[heavy sinew]

still very foul he can do that

going for cynthia but i am def going for him next

cannot miss out on such a funny ass unit

[rocky oasis]

basically yours but drop some icicle spears for hasty hail. youll need it

[vital ibex]

ah ok

do you go for amph or elec first?

[rocky oasis]

technically elec bc those headbutts will kill your run but amph needs to go too

hardest part is getting lucky enough w/ freeze to get past them

amph will kill you

[vital ibex]

im not patient enough to do this solo lol

[worthy horizon]

lv 50 isn't enough for bulu but i didn't bother trying to roll for grass guard, could still reach bar 3 at least

regirock is a lot worse

[rocky oasis]

im not either lol

[tawdry rock]

https://tenor.com/view/be-cool-scooby-doo-fred-goat-greatest-of-all-time-point-gif-19375629

best all rounder unit

[tawdry rock]

goated hoenn fav

[night blaze]

He’s too good. Like, how to choose where to use him

[robust nymph]

i can't wait for the next LG and decide who to solo with Arc Steven

[night blaze]

Latios with lv1

[karmic willow]

@shy sinew

Bro why attack trap?

In your clears

[karmic willow]

Probably the biggest roadblocker

As far as planning goes

Always aim for the hardest one first

[quaint tartan]

Except Nemona and gladion, which are the priorities to invest among the dc units in your opinion? I’m leaning towards dc blue rn

[wide citrus]

Lmfao

[golden jacinth]

my type of solo

[main ruin]

This is for what

[wide citrus]

Arc Steven on Latios

[main ruin]

Ah well I actually tried that solo and lost

I'm taking guesses on how I did it

[bitter gate]

Wally maybe?

At least I think outside of Gladion I think Wally is the best

3/5 gives 3 more debuffs and sync nuke, which is important

[main ruin]

(the answer is that I got burned by Heat Wave)

[karmic willow]

wait what

[lost juniper]

Yikes

[bitter gate]

level 1 Latios solo be like

[lost juniper]

With EX R though

[bitter gate]

No idea how that happened

but it's cute

[lost juniper]

But 1/5 0/20 is probably possible at like level 70 or something

[bitter gate]

yeah, just adjusted statline

[lost juniper]

He seriously cannot lose

[bitter gate]

What do you ya'll think between SST Red the arcs overall

I know Steven is well, Steven

and probably is the new king on the block now

[lost juniper]

SST Red has a better base kit than Cynthia

[bitter gate]

I think Lance has a good shot of replicating the magic

[lost juniper]

Lance will do 14/14 if he gets Moltres

[worthy horizon]

already done at lv 50 (with skill gear)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yCxUfzwTXY

it's still free

[bitter gate]

interesting you specify base

I do think he's better overall, given he actually did manage to do everything

but that's not Cynthia's fault in particular I think

[lost juniper]

Base kit is a huge part of how good they are

[bitter gate]

not her fault Cresselia has TF

yeah, but that suggests with investment that might not the be case

[worthy horizon]

at level 1 literally all your stats come from skill gear

his stats go to like 20

[mint osprey]

"Now no one will call me "bait" ever again!!!"
"No, ||but they will call you ASS||"
"..."

[true tartan]

I still think SST Red is over the top, does everything and can be gridded to what you need

Steven is also a monster, and Cynthia is very damage driven

[mint osprey]

Still it's not common for a 1/5 to do every stage

[true tartan]

I am talking in general tho

as said before, having flinch is a big thing to win in LA, add very high bulk while damage and LOTS of sustain...

and being immune to crit, raise stats instead of lowering them?

if Steven didn't have any form of flinch, he'd have more trouble soloing, but he'd still be a massive tank

if the units are at their max, Steven is over the top, but "lacks" AoE, Cynthia has a virtual perma ground zone with very high damage, SST Red can adapt to many needs

I'd place Steven as the biggest thing to get

after that, anything goes

[lost juniper]

Without flinch Steven would still do 13

Only Moltres really needs it

[mint osprey]

I wonder if I can even secure any of those before they expire. I doubt I can even get Lear at this point

Damn this 500 scout point

[true tartan]

never said he wouldn't get it, just more difficult depending on what he got over IH

[tender crater]

Well Lear won't be a solo machine

[true tartan]

also, just adding a simple thing, if AS Cynthia got Piercing Blows... she'd just be a total beast too lol

but can't ask much for how her way of playing is... building SyUN and hitting hard is already big

I am interested on how Lance's scaling is

wonder who will do the tests, I am only throwing 3 multis and that is it

[tender crater]

Before it's like 300%

50% per defense drop

[bitter gate]

this is probably accurate

Just that there's a lot of new number 1 seekers and particularly you have folks who think SST is still better or that cynthia's better etc

[true tartan]

it is a team build game, you can put all those 3 in the same team

and all 3 will work

lol