Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)

[bitter gate]

I feel like a big fraud this LG, stealing so many teams

more than others

done

@worthy horizon

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=002700040700&s0=5&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=17010201&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFBgcKDREUFxkaGx8i&v1=004901056300&s1=5&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=18040502&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFBggLDQ4aGx4gIyQlKCss&v2=0

[worthy horizon]

ty

[bitter gate]

Be smart with Phantom Forces and Absorbs

to relieve pot stress

but Gardenia hits like a truck

so no pressure

[heavy sinew]

FIRST MULTI ARVEN

RAHHHHHH

[bitter gate]

im only doing two multis

and then I have to save the rest I guess

im gonna regret this

oh nvm

I got him

kek

[heavy sinew]

First multi?

I'm using my support and omni candy on him

he's kinda silly

[bitter gate]

two multis

but now I have nothing

but its fine

[chrome halo]

FINALLY i can save 2 sup candies for Victor

[bitter gate]

now I have every single fair support except Rika

who I can pity on the mix scout soon anyway

[heavy sinew]

Pal Victor?

[chrome halo]

YESSSS

[heavy sinew]

W

[bitter gate]

what did you get lol

[chrome halo]

Arven is extremely kind to me

[bitter gate]

@median swan gl on the dog btw

[heavy sinew]

Same here omg

I will now play sv to see him and his dog

[chrome halo]

huh since when i have a tech cake sitting in my bag???

[heavy sinew]

What sucks is that I can't get vigi, impervious, and bite aggra at 3/5 +6e

[chrome halo]

get him to 5/5 ||like me||

[bitter gate]

im gonna try doing the bulu solo

at 1/5 uninvested

[heavy sinew]

Got no candies

[bitter gate]

I wonder if it's doable

[heavy sinew]

Used them all on him

[bitter gate]

I think it's possible

[chrome halo]

oops

[heavy sinew]

It probably is

[chrome halo]

imma head out to try Moltres solo

[sharp lichen]

I would pull on Arven but anni is next month and I gotta save 😭

[bitter gate]

saving

whatis that

kek

[sharp lichen]

Also do we know herba mystica passive yet or too early

[heavy sinew]

I'ma do a few more viola attempts then I'm off

[pearl beacon]

Ran this by the end
(Any flincher will do it or any weather to cover burn from bar 2)
I think the duo may be possible but require some Elio investment

[heavy sinew]

Oh wow I did it

finally

Ok now I'm off to bed

[robust nymph]

waiting for the arven solos so i can replicate it

[chrome halo]

waiting for the Moltres solo

[true tartan]

Arven will push the total solos over 1700

[bitter gate]

almost gets the bulu solo

gets crit by wood hammer and then seed bomb consecutively

and gets no flinch in 9 bites

:V

also, his solos are going to be slow as hell, lel

[true tartan]

welcome to Rika

Dark Boogaloo

[bitter gate]

but yeah, he's pretty braindead lol

10% permanent ping is a balanced move

just that its animation is slower than the dead sea

also grass guard + innate passive means wood hammer barely does 40% the first time, damn

[true tartan]

is that with dark gear?

or skill

[pearl beacon]

How much is the reduction?

[true tartan]

no idea

[bitter gate]

I used skill gear

but yeah, it's actually quite tight

unless you get flinch luck

which makes it safe

I failed again

because I got oneshotted by crit woodhammer

post sync

lmao

[true tartan]

hope is not morning in your timezone

lol

[bitter gate]

it takes 7 minutes to reach the third bar

lol

because of the long ass animation

[true tartan]

at the end, how far did you get on the DC tho

I know adam got 2.4M with Rose

[bitter gate]

1.8m because I didn't bother trying after that

I was focusing more on LG

I suck at DC lol

[true tartan]

I've seen Gloria and Poppy over 2.8M

[bitter gate]

yeah, Gloria with rebuff access and scaling

is key

[true tartan]

but oh well, not on-topic :T

[bitter gate]

Poppy wants 5/5

with fat tsacks

lol

but yeah, lemme try and get this solo done and published first

unless somenone else has already done it

[true tartan]

the anon runner is doing some Arven solos too

[bitter gate]

ruri has done Latias

though she fully invested in him, EXR and all

[true tartan]

lol

[bitter gate]

well, most of his harder solos need it

[true tartan]

I think that 4/5 would be the best for it

[bitter gate]

so not surprised

[true tartan]

3/5.... is that you'd need DC + luck

[bitter gate]

nah, he needs the 5/5 debuff tile

[sharp lichen]

Reminds me of 5/5 EXR NC Bianca on Latios lol

[true tartan]

4/5 already debuffs you know

lol

[pearl beacon]

At 5/5 he get Healthy Buffer 5
Dmg reduction will be fun

Too bad Dark HS is gone

[sharp lichen]

Kind of off topic but if there’s a variety select for anni, which will be the best pair to pick besides ball guy and Elio?

[pearl beacon]

Strictly LG or overall?

[sharp lichen]

I was thinking V Thornton

Mainly LG, but if I chose Thorton it would be a good addition to steel that I don’t have

Because the only steel pokefairs I have are SC Jasmine and Raihan 😭

[pearl beacon]

VThorton is an insane boost for DC for sure (need some investment tho) but if you alrd have ncBlue there's not too much difference

[sharp lichen]

Yeah I do have NC Blue

[chrome halo]

if you are looking for a Steel carry, better wait for Rose/Poppy

for LG alone i think VThorton is a worthy investment

[pearl beacon]

Then you're good
His debuff+sync boost may be close to a zone

[sharp lichen]

Might sound weird but ik Rose/Poppy are good but I feel like there’s going to be an insane steel MF coming sooner or later which I will want to invest in instead

(Mainly melmetal because of double iron bash being insane with flinches)

[pearl beacon]

Bte Ball Guy all the time
Funny and good

[pearl beacon]

Yes

Just wait for Gloria cake

[sharp lichen]

Yeah I have ball guy and he’s super fun

[pearl beacon]

Other pgood and low investment units can be VLorelei VMallow

[chrome halo]

i want to 3/5 him sometimes but i have too many wants over him

Pal Victor NC Bede and eventually Rika

[sharp lichen]

Ngl my NC Bede has been 1/5 ever since I got him and he performs just fine

[pearl beacon]

VFalkner kinda need 2/5
And ither variety are overall ok
I prefer Lyra/Kris over all the eevees

[chrome halo]

he is lacking in LG for me

[sharp lichen]

Yeah he needs some duos to be good

[chrome halo]

but i don't use him much nowadays so i might cross him out

[sharp lichen]

Same, NC Rosa outclassed him

[pearl beacon]

Too focused on self healing

Kinda boring to solo too

[sharp lichen]

Btw how big of a jump is 3/5 mix blue compared to 2/5? Mines sitting at 2/5 and I’m going to try to get blue before he leaves this month and if I don’t get him I was wondering if I should candy him to 3/5

[bitter gate]

aight

mfw I was answering questions in GSD

while doing this

that's how dumb he is

I can multitask while doing it

but yeah you can do this at 1/5

just fish for flinches

at the last bar

just one will do

and you're good

[pearl beacon]

Mostly sync dmg
150% nodes
But as long as you pair him w units like Tina you only need to sync once for sun

You may get him during other mix pulls

[sharp lichen]

Yeah true

We shall see ig

[robust nymph]

wow this bp barry solo is absolute shit

[bitter gate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er_cRwmjiEY

Someone else can lower it

but I honestly don't think the 10 tickets matter at all, lol

just play with RNG to clear it if so

[bitter gate]

Ruri has done both Moltres

and Terrakion

so he's full clear for everything except Torn now

will we get another 14?

[chrome halo]

they have maxed Arven right?

[bitter gate]

yes

EXR

[chrome halo]

is Moltres a slow but guaranteed solo?

i'm worried about Healing Sun outheals Arven's dmg

[rocky oasis]

yeah no i cant get the erika solo to work

[bitter gate]

against, what, Bulu?

what are you running

[rocky oasis]

the closest ive gotten is bulu at 20% before seed bomb kills her bc confusion isnt doing anything

bulu yeah

[bitter gate]

Oh, you're trying the base solo?

[rocky oasis]

yes

[bitter gate]

damn

[rocky oasis]

suprisingly she has little problem reaching bar 3

sometimes even at relatively high hp only for wood hammer to crit

she can actually nuke acceptably hard

not enough to ohko bar 3 tho

[stuck mantle]

Moltres solo? Lol

You would need 100% flinch all time

And move super fast flinch b move

Not real . Need get super lucky dont think he deal damage for it. Terra need extra energy since i try but die half bar 3. Not good damage he deal and need low terra attack for survive

[bitter gate]

@stuck mantle ruri already did it

lol

[chrome halo]

can you send me the link to the Moltres solo?

[bitter gate]

she hasn't uploaded it yet I think

she just showed it on twitter

@worthy horizon remind me again what's ideal for a 1/5 Kabu

I know you put his lodge but are there any alternatives

I know Blaine is

[chrome halo]

got 1/5 Eusine?

[bitter gate]

used it with Mina

[stuck mantle]

She did moltres?

Lol she sure lucky

She did terrakion not moltres lol

Whit extra orbs like i told

No orbs no solo i dont spend on arven so for me terra no chance

And she try now cress solo but dont now if she got or not

[worthy horizon]

it'd come down to one of the trapping options, lodge kabu is just the most defensive and this the easiest to keep alive

lodge lillie can be good when her debuffs actually work

[chrome halo]

speaking of Lodge Lillie, is there any cheaper partner than L Elesa?

[graceful folio]

[worthy horizon]

blaine has the firepower and tech lickitung is the cheap option

[chrome halo]

can they tank Latias

wait you are talking about Kabu mb

[graceful folio]

For comfey eh

I guess you want some crit right?

[worthy horizon]

idk about that one yet

might end up using that duo

[graceful folio]

I guess it's Latias where you using her right gakon?

[worthy horizon]

yea it's a latias team

[bitter gate]

guess Blaine it is then

thanks

[river cliff]

SS Elesa is a pretty comfortable option, and she really appreciates the offensive debuffs since she has no defensive buffs

[chrome halo]

[worthy horizon]

sounds like something i'd want to run

[chrome halo]

i think you have to run FT on either of them

[bitter gate]

I could give that a try, yeah

since I didn't want to throw her with Lance against Bulu

still figuring that out

[stuck mantle]

So i did 8 arven luri terra and cress

Its 10

[bitter gate]

she did uxie also

i mistook moltres for cobalion so

that's my bad

[stuck mantle]

When?

[bitter gate]

the screenshot was not clear

lol

just a few moments ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmyUZJhs2Go

I think at this point it's just Moltres/Torn left

Azelf idt anyone has done yet?

[stuck mantle]

Regirock

Left

[river cliff]

I didn't end up needing it, I ran mg2 on Lillie and vigilance on Elesa. Thundershock mgr is sufficient

[stuck mantle]

I did azelf

So she did 3 and i did 8 others

[bitter gate]

regirock should be

[stuck mantle]

Left regirock its all

[bitter gate]

easy no

like where is the risk

[stuck mantle]

Not realy?

[bitter gate]

even 1/5 should be able to do it

[stuck mantle]

Bar 2/3?

No flinch

[bitter gate]

he doesn't need ot juts

grind it

[stuck mantle]

He can flinch you

[bitter gate]

slowly

there is no risk at all

[stuck mantle]

I can try now

And its all wat can be done

[bitter gate]

just run unflappable

and just slowly grind it to death really

[pearl beacon]

#1012311116778586182 message

Base eusine

[chrome halo]

hmm, did you skip sure crit Eq or Lillie had enough HP to outlast it?

[river cliff]

She had enough hp to take it

[chrome halo]

[river cliff]

She's not really getting hit by anything other than syncs and maybe a surf, so synchro healing is plenty to keep her topped off

[stuck mantle]

Regirock done

Only left torn wat no chance and for some lucky one try your luck vs our boy moltres whish luck for it😘

[worthy horizon]

guessing torn is at minimum better than sm acerola vs moltres but we'll see

[stuck mantle]

You have bar 1 no chance pass

He use physical need special

Rain huricane always hit never miss

Strike like tank

[pearl beacon]

Time to roll a 45% Healthy Benefit skill gear

[stuck mantle]

Fly dr better lol

Still he will die

[feral plank]

2 ex arven should be an easy bulu solo right?

[bitter gate]

@worthy horizon I assume that uhh

Lodge Kabu is the one

that tanks in the duo

because fsr base Kabu is struggle to stomach because he has to pick between unbending or guard

[stuck mantle]

He deal one sync buff

[bitter gate]

no flying guard?

[stuck mantle]

241

[bitter gate]

no rebuffs?

[stuck mantle]

No fly gaurd

[bitter gate]

debuffs*

try running that

[stuck mantle]

You deal 187 after sync

Haha

So no chance

Count we can say 300 damage how many hits you need?

Never happend zero damage you deal

Debuff buy you time you die latter its all

No chance win

Torn will get like 9+ buff you will not even reach half bar

[worthy horizon]

wondered whether there was anything purely physical that brute forces tornadus aka no para or pblows

there's actually nothing as far as i can tell

[stuck mantle]

Dojo and silver did it

But they have sync damage for it

[worthy horizon]

oh yeah i saw that dojo gloria kinda did that but max move is huge

not familiar enough with c silver to know what happened

[stuck mantle]

Max move heal low def

[pearl beacon]

Elaine n ssSilver then

Oh wait swift

So its only ssSilver?

[stuck mantle]

Silver have b move wat is like piers blow

No nc sliver and ss silver

Ss have alot sts drops and big sync nuke heal

[worthy horizon]

i wouldn't expect 1/5 kabu to be capable of duoing moltres without being carried by something with not much synergy

[stuck mantle]

Arven is sup if he have special for pass bar 1 then prob he could whit good gears

[worthy horizon]

sucks bc the fire rebuff kinda gets wasted but i don't know a way to overcome not having sunscreen or whatever

flying guard is an odd pick vs moltres but i found it to be really helpful to reduce brave bird dmg and maybe helps vs hurricanes in bar 3 while not getting worn down by air cutters and stuff

[inner turret]

isnt kabu blaine a thing

dunno if it's 1/5 kabu tho

[worthy horizon]

2/5 is what kobe proved was doable

[pearl beacon]

Base he lacks tools
At least got Flameproof

[worthy horizon]

yea it's pretty much just flameproof and fire rebuff on his base kit

[pearl beacon]

And escape artist for entei
Traps on you lol

[worthy horizon]

maybe wallace could actually perform better than most options but he doesn't provide much of anything specific

just benefits from the variety of buffs kabu has

[pearl beacon]

Gauge is another issue, that -2/-3 is pain

*speed

[upper lance]

Uxie with Arven is also done !

It can probably solo Cobalion too (can be infinitely flinched after all)

[worthy horizon]

yea something will likely have to run fast track in a duo

[stuck mantle]

I did coba and azelf long ago lol

[upper lance]

5/5 ?

[stuck mantle]

Arven did 12. Torn and moltres no chance do it. Molters need 100% flinch luck maybe

Yeap 5/5 exr

[upper lance]

Oh ok ok

So everyone was sweeped by 5/5 Exr Arven except Bird and Shrek ?

[stuck mantle]

Coba only half bar 1 need hope no poison and its alk

Yeap

[worthy horizon]

btw still waiting on someone to do 1/5 lysandre vs bulu even though the demonstration i recorded isn't strictly worse https://youtu.be/8t2qssNoSY4

just need the mprs/mgrs and minimal crits

and stoic procs lol but i don't think it's too awful still

[inner turret]

that gauge

[bitter gate]

@worthy horizon what can lodge Morty duo with

I was gonna use Olivia

But I felt that might be too much

BP Morty*

[inner turret]

Of course when I get a correct run, I get a grand total of 5 stoic the whole run and die of bonk

🫠

Lost because of trip up

Isnt that funny

[tender horizon]

O wow

[main ruin]

Ah fuck

Latias

As well as Moltres

[covert mica]

I'm doing autos on tapu bulu.
Is there a way to prevent nc cheren from using fly ?

[rocky oasis]

idk what to pair ex 2/5 ss n w/ vs latias

[main ruin]

I'm thinking about which ten I should go for

The three Bulus are probably Sycamore LodgeSky Bluedgeot

I'm just thinking about what I want to do for the other teo

[pearl beacon]

If you're going for 10 don't bother too much with solos
Blue is dodge or die, you can simply put a tank
And for sycamore you can use marlon to give him def buffs

[inner turret]

if i had a nickel for every time bulu dropped my SpD turn one into crit brutal swing turn 2 i'd have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot but fuck you too bulu

[pearl beacon]

Had 1/5 Vlorelei with -5 spdef
Dena secretly boosting LG bosses odds

[inner turret]

STOIC PLEASE

[quaint tartan]

Acumen when Dena??

[inner turret]

Im losing my mind

[karmic willow]

Hell yeah

[ancient thunder]

took the day off of gauntlet yesterday because of the new DC
time to resume

[errant plume]

If you have more than 1090 HP, the crit mattered, otherwise not
4 Stoic procs, 3 Energy Ball drops, perfectly balanced

[inner turret]

I have 1118 HP

[errant plume]

well rip

[feral plank]

Having to run impervious with ssa Cynthia because i kept failing crunches at -1 acc with marnie IS something i wouldnt have expected, i even had to run revenge boost 4

I missed 7 crunches bar 1

[inner turret]

I lost again because of trip up

or not enough stoic, that works too

[chrome halo]

Btw no Moltres solo yet?

For Arven

[karmic willow]

Energy ball on a roll 9

[inner turret]

real

[bitter gate]

Hmm

Well, no need for Hapu May

When you can just do this

Also korrina works with alcremie so thats nice

[inner turret]

I had won

I missed 2 oblivion wing

actual 🖕 moment

that was the perfect run, i even had +6 defense

[ancient thunder]

You cannot make this up

[stuck mantle]

I check arven vs moltres is realy hard flinch and b move

And he deal alot damage wat even pass bar 1 no chance

[inner turret]

GOT IT

[graceful folio]

Never

[graceful folio]

Good stuff mael

[inner turret]

@worthy horizon here it is lol

[karmic willow]

Alright so

How are you guys doing

With steven?

And who's the most okay partner for ss acerola?

I feel like steven is the call here...

Base steven so slow idk if i should do him or whitney 😭

[sturdy steeple]

arven added to the doc still waiting for these three

[karmic willow]

Wow

Someone already got 5/5 exr

[inner turret]

multiple people

oh he got the best weakness in the game, nice

[karmic willow]

Which is?

[inner turret]

bug

[karmic willow]

Oh yeah bug is definitely the best weakness

Now imagine

If the next one

Has stuff like

Leech life

[inner turret]

doesn't matter if opponents heal even 500 HP from a draining move

the real issue would be buzzwole with lunge for example

[ancient thunder]

Finally

That mf cheats, I swear

[raven crane]

He do.

[feral plank]

If bulu cheats moltres is admin

[raven crane]

Moltres is the god damn developer.

[feral plank]

That's even worse

[heavy sinew]

woah

[feral plank]

For us

[ancient thunder]

Already submitted my in-game feedback to remove M*ltres

[heavy sinew]

is R on Arven worth?

[lost juniper]

No Regirock solo is weird

I thought he'd solo it by now

Raikou too

[robust nymph]

there's nothing stopping him from soloing regirock

[sturdy steeple]

dont think about it too hard

just hasnt been done yet

[raven crane]

It's been like 7 hours.

Clearly should be 15/15.

[sturdy steeple]

hes right

[dawn plume]

lmfao i got 2 arvens on the last multi before pity thanks for trolling game

[sturdy steeple]

[dawn plume]

its why i saved

probably means i have to skip an anni pair again

and its this shitty event type again dude 2800 points until i get the free orbs for arven is so stupid

[feral plank]

I forgot ro record

But yeah, very easy

[lost juniper]

5/5?

[feral plank]

2/5

But fast track would really be the only thing you need , everything else IS not necessary

[lost juniper]

I really want Arven but I'll save

I did one multi but nothing

Not gonna push my luck

[feral plank]

I got 2 2nd multi and decided to stop

[graceful folio]

So weird to see Mabosstiff and all the other paldean already in game

I mean it in a good way but dang

Time flies when you are having fun

[feral plank]

That's what i used , even without tm mpr

I could record it now and post it on twitter though

[bitter gate]

@sturdy steeple mine is 1 10/20 lel

Against bulu

[sturdy steeple]

yes i know

anything above 5/20 is shown as 20/20 on the navigation page

[heavy sinew]

o wow

[sturdy steeple]

when you actually go to it on the bulu page its 10/20

[bitter gate]

Ahh

[heavy sinew]

1/20 kek

[bitter gate]

Oopsies

Quaggles is a gourmet chef

His was EXed, mine wasn't

Good to know this works

[heavy sinew]

Umbreon?

[bitter gate]

Yes

[heavy sinew]

nice

[bitter gate]

What is BP Morty duoing with

I can't find any fsr

[sturdy steeple]

im doing hilda

[heavy sinew]

Bird?

[sturdy steeple]

yes

[lost juniper]

Good luck with Hilda surviving

She's strong but her defenses are trash

[sturdy steeple]

its bp morty shes 100% okay

in fact its quite overkill

[bitter gate]

base Hilda?

Gmmm

I guess it's better than Olivia

[raven crane]

Just a few Potions.

[upper lance]

Raikou not uploaded ? It was already done I’m pretty sure.

[sturdy steeple]

i just saw and added it dw

[upper lance]

The Arven sweep lmao

[sharp lichen]

That was close

didnt think id have a use of 1/5 alder

[stuck mantle]

I did raikou and regirock lol like 5-6h ago and vids on my channel

Moltres no chance for me try it

[sturdy steeple]

oh you did

now do moltres anyways

[sharp lichen]

you have to get the most insane flinch luck known to mankind for moltres

[sturdy steeple]

yes but due to being a support he doesnt blow up immediately when being attacked by moltres so he can afford to miss flinches

its more of a game of timing your attacks while hopin for both flinches n sync crits

[sharp lichen]

well mainly because of bar 3 and having to outdamage moltres sunny healing if flinch fails

[sturdy steeple]

in that regard, you dont need insane flinch luck to survive, just great overall

[dawn plume]

bird…

i might try it out

he def won’t be needing the 5/5 debuff tile for moltres at least

[sturdy steeple]

best of luck to you

[sharp lichen]

what about healthy buffer 5?

seems like the main idea from his kit is to heal back to max after using his b-move due to healthy buffer 5

[raven crane]

Glances at SC Zinnia.

... It can be more insane.

By the way what's his damage reduction?

20%?

[sharp lichen]

we dont know i think

[sturdy steeple]

yeah seemingly 20%

[sharp lichen]

o

[raven crane]

Except in certain circumstances, reduces damage when the user is hit by an attack move while the remaining MP for its moves that have the Berry effect tag is zero.```

[sharp lichen]

20% not too bad

[raven crane]

About what I expected.

I wonder what the craziest attack is he could take under Healthy Buffer and Herba Mystica Effects.

[inner turret]

1 EX R Lysandre soloes Tapu Bulu

[raven crane]

How bad? Pretty?

[inner turret]

it's not fun

[robust nymph]

art is getting better and better

[raven crane]

Makes me think of a TerminalMontage thumbnail.

I love it.

[inner turret]

ty

[lost juniper]

Thumbnail is good

[bitter gate]

@inner turret is this 1/5 EXR or more dupes but with a 1/5 grid

[inner turret]

actual 1 ex r

[heavy sinew]

Still no PC or your art is getting better

[inner turret]

im on pc

the selene thumbnail was also on pc

[sharp lichen]

what flincher are you guys using with to duo with Leaf & Eevee?

[inner turret]

ss brock's the common duo

[sharp lichen]

alr

[heavy sinew]

My 1/5 sc selene begging to be used knowing she probably dies to Moltres

I wonder what's a good partner for her

Or something cheap

[inner turret]

lowkey
pal marnie like a 1/5 pal marnie or smth

[heavy sinew]

both are 1/5 woah

5 uses of steel zone

It can work

[inner turret]

i feel like that could be enough

[dawn plume]

oh i got another bp super voucher today lol

[lost juniper]

I'm honestly gonna try if she could duo with OG Steven due to his flinches

Like he can flinch when she sets zone

[sharp lichen]

does moltres have a higher crit chance in sun?

[robust nymph]

i don't think so

[sharp lichen]

dang my luck is that awful then

[dawn plume]

moltres has no crit gimmicks

[robust nymph]

that's the one thing i'm thankful about

makes me free to run fire guard or flameproof

[shy sinew]

moltres's only crit gimmick is confirmation bias

[inner turret]

imagine if moltres had one with the sun

minasmile

[sturdy steeple]

Moltes is guaranteed to nat crit you on a potentially winning run

[heavy sinew]

Hmm you're onto something but my Steven is only 1/5 so idk how that can work out

[heavy sinew]

worst gimmick of all time

[sharp lichen]

yeah thats what happened to me, i was doing a tech omastar / Leaf duo and leaf got crit flare blitz on bar 3

[heavy sinew]

happened to me with crit overheat on ingo

[sharp lichen]

Ayy

Rock slide does some serious damage

[dawn plume]

hmm

doable for sure

bro takes hits like a champ but getting sp def buffs is pretty important

[sturdy steeple]

What grid are you running

Cause you could go for a second buffing passive

[dawn plume]

im 3/5 but yeah

the regen messes with flinch chaining i found

so best to just avoid it

[sturdy steeple]

That passive is 3/5

[dawn plume]

yeah but everything else seems important

[sturdy steeple]

You can get mgr for jaw lock instead and just get speed buffs from the random buffs

[raven crane]

I hate Latias.

I hate Eve.

[ancient thunder]

I love not getting defensive buffs from Summer Tate against Bulu

Yes, please make sure my 100 accuracy move really lands with +6 Acc

[inner turret]

it's to counter the +1 eva

[heavy sinew]

Gonna try without R

See how it goes

[bitter gate]

Im actually still hesitating on my Raihan/Rose comp

[ancient thunder]

fair enough
but he did it three more times after it was already maxed lmao

[bitter gate]

notably because I have no EXed Goride

since it would've been an easy duo otherwise

[sturdy steeple]

Gordie doesnt need ex to nuke bar 2, but he does need 3 sync buffs

Approx

[bitter gate]

Really?

I guess I'll give it a try

would I need to run DC on him

[sturdy steeple]

Yeah

[bitter gate]

I guess I'll try it after I rest

[sturdy steeple]

Tho idk if you have enough HP on Moltres to pull it off

Gordie already has to restrict his moves in the raihan duo in fear of beating Moltres too fast

[bitter gate]

I can give it a try, I guess

i think the point is to just not use your TM early

[sturdy steeple]

Never hurts to try

[bitter gate]

im worried about surviving, if anything

[raven crane]

THE FABLED RIDICURE PROC.

Then the immediate Zen Headbutt flinch -> Energy Ball land -> Sync dead combo.

[ancient thunder]

having fun, buddy?

[raven crane]

No.

The amount of times Eve has been Yamcha'd.

[ancient thunder]

I'm gonna pretend like I get the reference :)

[raven crane]

Killed.

“Watch me do a great job!” I’m watching. I don’t see it:

[dawn plume]

lol this was a struggle for me too

what egg are you using

[raven crane]

Weezing, for Defense buffs so I can run Cakewalk.

[ancient thunder]

maybe It's time to teach it a lesson and whip out the OP supports
It'd be a massive waste, but you'll feel damn good about it

[dawn plume]

hmm

i used chansey

[raven crane]

Does Chansey have Potion?

[dawn plume]

yea

[raven crane]

I might need it.

That or I'll need some blood presure medication.

Whichever comes first.

[ancient thunder]

potions, but no defense buffs

just Speed and Sp.Atk

[raven crane]

Frankly the longevity in bar 1 might just be necessary.

Because three enemies with +2 Accuracy is ASS.

Ah cool I don't have Support Chansey.

I think that makes three for three on Normal Eggmons I don't have for duos I'm trying to do.

[dawn plume]

choked

[main ruin]

So for Latias I'm thinking NC Blue/Celebi/Eusine???

I'm a little lost on what to do for Moltres though

[raven crane]

True!

[main ruin]

I'm thinking CSilver + Bertha as a team, another as Archie/Egg Vaporeon

Regular Acerola as another team, probably with 1/5 SS Diantha?

And then last team as Irida + NC Red

Idk where to put 1/5 SS Steven

I also have to throw SS Morty somewhere

[raven crane]

I failed crits on the last three Sync Moves.

Because of course I did.

[dawn plume]

got below half on bar 3

then nat crit flare biltz

[inner turret]

because of course

[dawn plume]

u were right

[lost juniper]

It's painful how true is this statement

Moltres killing summer gloria from full because heat wave crits

[inner turret]

Don't worry guys

The more you complain the more likely it is that you win, it's proven science

[worthy horizon]

gg good shit

[heavy sinew]

I can't even get past bar 1

How do you manage to get to bar 3

[dawn plume]

for arven??

uhh

pray

[heavy sinew]

brug

[worthy horizon]

your worst/cheapest flincher always does a lot to make any soloable unit much more tolerable, many of which i wouldn't find usable for moltres duos

i think his gauge and sustain are decent so a damage dealer would be an ideal option otherwise maybe

[inner turret]

strike pidgeot

[worthy horizon]

bc i think of everything needing a good balance of gauge, damage, and sustain/move denial like sleep/flinch/evasion, possible to lack one of those like poppy not having sustain or much move denial and still succeed but you need a ton to compensate and things become much more difficult or time consuming

if you go the flinch route then mind games is ofc mandatory bc otherwise it's not using the flinch time well, also a mono attack debuffer like tech persian would make things even easier without being too useful for latias

[heavy sinew]

Arven doesn't wanna flinch flare blitz

[inner turret]

imo mabosstiff should open its jaw large and eat moltres alive

[graceful folio]

Imo moltres should be just grilled under its same sun

I can cook the moltres no problem

Ah no? Am I being too harsh?

[dawn plume]

can a scientist explain why this chain kept breaking

does moltres get the illusive lessen flinch 10 on bar 3 or something

[raven crane]

I think Lessen Flinch 9 is just chaos theory.

[dawn plume]

i had 0 issues bars 1 and 2

[sturdy steeple]

Bar 3 moment

[raven crane]

Ok. Lessen Flinch 9 bar 3 is chaos theory.

[graceful folio]

Yesterday I got three insta queues in a row on bar 2 after flinch

Immediately

[raven crane]

Yeah that's par for the course.

[graceful folio]

3 in a row and 3 in a row I got lucky to shut it down

[dawn plume]

i think arven should use his culinary skills and cook moltres into a niced oven fried bird dish

[heavy sinew]

Crit hurricane ofc

[inner turret]

maybe try to lower the game speed between bite and bmove

[raven crane]

I think Eve should stop yellin' "watch me do a great job" and failing a crit.

[heavy sinew]

because why the fuck not

[inner turret]

so you click on the bmove earlier and maybe moltres wont queue

[dawn plume]

hmm might be worth trying

[raven crane]

Not like you have much else to work with.

Lel.

[inner turret]

mabosstiff eating moltres, colorized

[raven crane]

I rolled through so many guard passives that the word guard looks like it's spelled wrong.

[dawn plume]

gaurd

[inner turret]

garde

[chrome halo]

gurda

[heavy sinew]

gadre

I'm caking Arven idc

[inner turret]

yeah do it

[heavy sinew]

This too hard

[inner turret]

gotta get that nuke

[dawn plume]

oh you were trying without cake?

lol yeah

no wonder you cant get past bar 1

[heavy sinew]

Made it to bar 2 yippee

Got crit by fire blast booo

[chrome halo]

An average Moltres run

The bird always finds a way to annoy you

[dawn plume]

dead bird

i almost choked SO BADLY

[chrome halo]

YOOO

[tiny hedge]

my god, can arven solo every arena???

[chrome halo]

only the genie left

[dawn plume]

13/14

i dont think tornadus happens

[chrome halo]

Yeah, but 45% flying dr can bring us a miracle

I think

[tiny hedge]

Arven has a mid kit
Proceeds to solo almost every arena

[true tartan]

expected tbh lol

tornadus was the only problem

[tiny hedge]

i'm honestly more surprised by how well he can heal

[chrome halo]

If only he could heal and flinch at the same time

[true tartan]

reminds me of Elaine on that aspect

use bite to flinch, use B move with a 100% procc that ensures flinch full duration

[tiny hedge]

also, what was Arven's lucky cookie again? I remember it being generic

[true tartan]

uh, don't remember either

[dawn plume]

danger dodge 2

[true tartan]

but in pomatools, it is in the luxury tab

[dawn plume]

its the only way he gets evasion so

i guess?

[tiny hedge]

danger dodge 2?

i mean.....

it's not the WORST? does he have vigilance on grid? let me see

oh he does.

[dawn plume]

he does have vig on grid yeah

[tiny hedge]

then danger dodge is actually good

not bad.

[chrome halo]

Vigilance is located on a bad spot tho

[dawn plume]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/31700/94300?s=3&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=17010201&g=AAECAwQFDA0QEhUWGRwgISQnKg&x=true

used this grid

[inner turret]

YAY

[tiny hedge]

omg, he has safety net too...

[dawn plume]

36400 gems well spent

[sturdy steeple]

Nice work lemmay

[worthy horizon]

adam said bar 1 hurricanes were the biggest issue since arven only attacks physically which is really bad for bar 1 and rain dance means evasion wouldn't mean much

if he gets it i don't think you skip flying guard

[tiny hedge]

do you really need Bite MGR when you have FT9?

[dawn plume]

i needed it at the start

[heavy sinew]

W dog

[dawn plume]

i elect to not use jaw locks until after he gets his sitrus berry heals from half health

still use 1 at the start for tm buffs

vid is processing

[bitter gate]

Oh he actually did it

So 13

Ruri told me she didn't think it could be done and said she wanted to focus on LG grind instead but

Yaaay

Stewpede dawg joins the 13 club

[inner turret]

14 whenever someone does the funny flying dr 45%

[raven crane]

Yeah I dunno where that prospect came from.

His healing and damage mitigation abilities are stupid.

[dawn plume]

how tf did the paradox pokemon injure mabosstiff when its this bulky 🤨 interesting plothole...

[tiny hedge]

It's because people want supports to do damage and instantly buff allies turn 1.

but he IS C tier due to multiple factors here.

[raven crane]

[inner turret]

tbf this month everything is f tier priority wise because anni

[sturdy steeple]

I am not expecting tornadus anytime soon and if it happens that'll be crazy

[raven crane]

Why?

[tiny hedge]

Anni, other master fairs running, Needs multiple move levels, not very beginner friendly kit, and more importantly, Will be reran in time whereas other banners right now are much rarer.

[heavy sinew]

Counterpoint: dog eats bird

[raven crane]

Oh, you mean pull priority.

[inner turret]

yeah pull priority

[raven crane]

I thought you meant capability-wise.

Like wat.

[dawn plume]

i'm skipping nemona i dont need her i got gladion

[raven crane]

Think you proved the opposite, lel.

[dawn plume]

just hope anni gives 2 master fairs instead of 3

(cope)

[inner turret]

i'm getting nemona i need her i dont got gladion

in fact i dont got fairy dps

[raven crane]

I'm getting Nemo because she's cool.

[true tartan]

this is post-Herba Mystica Mabosstiff, dude is a Titan mon in miniature now

[inner turret]

Herba Mabosstica

[worthy horizon]

98900 gems i'm so ready for anni

[raven crane]

Also like, cool, but people even outside of the Gauntlet gas up Elaine and they aren't that different.

[inner turret]

damn

[raven crane]

Yoink.

[true tartan]

oh, so you were that comment.... interesting you use a different account for those interactions I suppose

[inner turret]

66k gems, i should have 3 pity by the end of anni so i'm chillin'

[heavy sinew]

It's truly amazing how Arven refuses to flinch the flare blitzes and I die because of it

[dawn plume]

ok arvens in i need a new character to shill for

give me uhhh

florian

[true tartan]

Clive*

[scenic bolt]

You don’t :3

[inner turret]

with shed tail cyclizard, and they implement substitute somehow

[thick dawn]

all in for lacey

[raven crane]

Perrin.

[inner turret]

I need uuuh ilima ig???

oh yeah perrin with bloodmoon ursaluna

(inb4 it gets ground shift and i cry)

[raven crane]

Perrin with Growlithe then SC Perrin with Ursaluna.

Make Growlithe a god tier Sun setter.

[lost juniper]

13/14 is insane

[inner turret]

13/14 almost is the norm nowadays

[lost juniper]

Man I really want him now but Paldea was so rough on my gems

[lost juniper]

Yup, but still, I want him. His event is so good too

Arven is best boy (alongside N)

[inner turret]

yeah he got what, 5 solos at 1/5 already ? and probably more to come

that is a good pull argument

[raven crane]

https://tenor.com/view/ganondorf-ganon-dies-dying-legend-of-zelda-gif-27672996

I hate this shit with the text over the health bar.

[heavy sinew]

Yes please

[raven crane]

Perrin and Turo are the two characters I really want from SV, since we got Rika and Larry.

Carmine and Kieran too I suppose.

[inner turret]

i don't care about perrin if she doesnt get bloodmoon

[raven crane]

THAT'S SO MEAN.

[inner turret]

id like carmine tho

[raven crane]

[inner turret]

ok it's not i dont care, more like i care less

i like her, but not enough yknow

[raven crane]

I adore her.

[true tartan]

Gets Ursaluna, is another Ground

[raven crane]

(I feel my 3 5/5 Adaman's might be a factor...)

[inner turret]

[raven crane]

That would be so bad.

The signature move is so cool.

[inner turret]

yeah, ground shift

[true tartan]

yep

[raven crane]

Sorry Mael I actually fuck with that.

[inner turret]

ig a special ground dps is a good niche

because right it's may and that's it lol, or mud slap gaming

[lost juniper]

I'll try to daily with him and maybe I'll throw another multi before the banner ends

If not, I know who I'm getting from mix pity

[raven crane]

As long as it gets Blood Moon, I don't care if it's Normal or Ground.

[inner turret]

still salty that ursaluna got facade, but it's literally useless because it always deals less damage than the b move

[raven crane]

Naomi left in the dumpster.

[inner turret]

oh true

[sturdy steeple]

NOT TRUE

[raven crane]

TRUE.

[sturdy steeple]

[inner turret]

I MEAN TRUE ABOUT NAOMI BEING A SPECIAL GROUND DPS NOT ABOUT HER BEING IN THE DUMPSTER

[true tartan]

[raven crane]

Both!

[inner turret]

[raven crane]

[inner turret]

True!

[sturdy steeple]

What the heck

[true tartan]

such is the fate of free strike units

[inner turret]

can't wait for guitarist mael & voltorb

(he's probably not called mael in english versions )

[dawn plume]

gah damn this video taking forever to process

well here is this

i will wait patiently

[inner turret]

not even 5/5

[ancient thunder]

Done bashing my head against the wall with Grimsley in DC
moltres awaits me in Gauntlet 🥹

[inner turret]

now go lower all other solos

[bitter gate]

Tf

It's not even 5/5

Sheesh

[inner turret]

good boy is that good

[dawn plume]

lol i might later but i gotta go out today

[bitter gate]

Idk why

[dawn plume]

only 5/5 tile that matters is the atk/sp atk debuff one and that doesnt help vs moltres

[bitter gate]

Probably because I interact with all the JP YouTubers with this account

When I should be using the other one

Oh well

@sturdy steeple thx

That was a bit too simple tho but oh well

[heavy sinew]

I keep losing to stupid BS

arven won't flinch wtf

Transition to bar 2 and he won't flinch

[raven crane]

Well there was no sightseer named Naomi either.

So maybe it could happen!

[dawn plume]

i could lower the solos but then someone will lower them again to do without tech cake 😔

[heavy sinew]

No flinches in the first sync cycle in bar 2

This is absurd

[feral plank]

Yep , raikou IS definitely doable at 2/5

Just some good sp def buffs early and you are good to go

[true tartan]

Raikou is doable at 1/5 lol

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/960306675473084426/1271847112425996288/Screenshot_20240810-110557_Gallery.jpg?ex=66b8d36d&is=66b781ed&hm=c88d6a6a858eea23da8b4cfc6f7458cd00b5f445b81df4428d1b63d03178209d&

[feral plank]

Lol

Just better gear

[true tartan]

this is dark gear

lvl 140 lol

[ancient thunder]

how do you go about using units that only have one instance of weather against Moltres?

[feral plank]

That's why i said It

[feral plank]

Which ones?

[inner turret]

use the weather bar 1, nuke bar 2, ?????? bar 3

[true tartan]

use it for debuffing first bar, hit harder next ones

[ancient thunder]

ah, I figured. I just haven't thought of the right team. Thanks!

[feral plank]

Every unit i see has atleast 2 instances though

[true tartan]

looks at Lodge Raihan

[feral plank]

Rip

[true tartan]

looks at H Rosa

[feral plank]

I dont have raihan

Neither delibird

[true tartan]

under 3/5 Archie

(Maxie too, but that doesn't matter for Moltres)

[feral plank]

Well yeah but he has 2

[raven crane]

Under 3/5.

As in 1 or 2/5.

[feral plank]

Ik

But he still has 2 or no? You gotta be 3/5 but he still has 2

[raven crane]

Archie sets rain on entry.

That is it.

At 3/5 he gets Shower Sync.

So, yes, 3/5 Archie has two. But that wasn't what StDk was saying.

[heavy sinew]

WHYYYYY

FLINCH PLEASE

[dawn plume]

https://youtu.be/wHCbNnSauQI?si=bpB1aN-p6NEV2hl5

finally

[median swan]

13/14 king

[ancient thunder]

MOLTRES IS NOT SERIOUS

It never crit any moves except for the two brave birds

[raven crane]

[ancient thunder]

and that was more thsn enough to obliterate Raihan

[feral plank]

Still with arven?

[inner turret]

at least it didnt crit flare blitz

[feral plank]

Or fire blast

Those are devastating

[river cliff]

Hmm

[heavy sinew]

Yes

[feral plank]

Doing solos on moltres with supports and moltres spamming flare Blitz not good

[heavy sinew]

Trying with the grid Naomi recommended

Might change to lemmay's grid

Changed to lemmay's grid and got it 2nd try

[dawn plume]

bruh

[raven crane]

Lmao Naomi is cursed.

[heavy sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-washed-my-goat-washed-lightning-mcqueen-mcqueen-gif-13084113942314445304

[bitter gate]

What clear is this

[heavy sinew]

Arven on moltres

3/5 EXR

Added +6e cause I like him

Allowed me to get both sync tiles

somehow I got to bar 3 and did the slow down trick and it worked

any duos for 2/5 alt leon

on latias

[sturdy steeple]

😎

(crying under the sunglasses)

[heavy sinew]

lmao I'm sorry

[sturdy steeple]

marven sweep

[heavy sinew]

genie next

[sturdy steeple]

too many 13s 😭

lemmay would you really call it ⛔ or is it just precise

[heavy sinew]

I'm saying precise, with good luck you can recover from very low HP and still win

[sturdy steeple]

makes sense

[rotund rain]

in a way I could see the genie happening

but I'm not holding much hope for it

[karmic willow]

it's okay naomi i'll still find a way to let you cook XD

[rotund rain]

could see that Elaine Tornadus solo level of specific skill gears being needed

[spiral crystal]

Is there any data on the actual drop rates for gauntlet?

[shy sinew]

for the deluxes?

[ancient thunder]

I couldn't take another sync not killing Moltres bar 2

I'm so low on 5☆ power-ups

[inner turret]

He's a good investment

[river cliff]

Well that took way too long

[ancient thunder]

This stupid friggin thing is going to elevate my blood pressure to a point no 21-year-old's should be

[sullen gyro]

Has Latias and Co received a boost or something? Clemont can't eat a earthquake at full hp and no defense down from the flygon🤔

[river cliff]

No?

[sturdy steeple]

you cant be debuffed too heavily, and you need vigilance

[sullen gyro]

Got that on him, no debuffs

[sturdy steeple]

oh you said flygon

kill flygon

[sullen gyro]

Yea I'll do that first instead of alakazam

Usually done the alakazam first before and been fine

[raven crane]

This is funny.

"Oh, Flygon. Kill Flygon."

Quite the simple solution..

[sullen gyro]

It is

[lost juniper]

Flygon should die first yeah

Don't bother debuffing their accurcy

[raven crane]

I somehow perfectly timed my run to where Alakazam would die as it queued Hyper Beam.

Happy accidents, love it.

[lost juniper]

Only Latias need to be debuffed

[spiral crystal]

Yeah

[pearl beacon]

Love the sSteven

[spiral crystal]

Like it just says level 1 through level 5 - but not an actual drop rate, it seems that 3* only drops at level 5

[shy sinew]

I believe this is still accurate, it's an older image but I know the 3* drop rates are this
LG Deluxe cookie drop rates

it's in an absolutely pastebin I just forget which one

[spiral crystal]

Interesting, I definitely feel like they dropped the rates because I haven’t gotten a 3* outside of fixed rewards

Any chance there is a skill rate for each of the three levels somewhere?

[kind imp]

I think it's in all LG ones

At least it's on the most recent one

https://pastebin.com/CHHh7mNi

[inner turret]

google serebii lucky cookies

[karmic willow]

I am not strong enough

Sorry guys

But he literally undid everything

[ancient thunder]

Oh my god

Nearly three hours of attempts and I almost lost it all

[karmic willow]

Rock damage zone pog

[ancient thunder]

I feel like I need to lie down after that
That was my only win since I got back to gauntlet

[inner turret]

Wdym the max move didnt kill wtf

[stuck mantle]

Lol elaine solo vs moltres is realy not hard🤣

We got wors

[ancient thunder]

I needed at least -5 Def. to confidently do it. -4 was fine if I rolled high, which I guess I did in the winning run?

To be honest, I was too busy yelling at Raihan to go far, far away

[inner turret]

Lol

[graceful folio]

Hello gamers

How is it going so far

[ancient thunder]

This was the moment my soul was pretty much crushed

Raihan had done 1% damage before, so I thought I'll just use rock throw and move on to bar 2

[graceful folio]

Oh so relatable