Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)

[raven crane]

Oh, right.

Ramos is a sort of precedent.

[rocky oasis]

tbh her passive does activate even if spore fails

judging from how its worded

[raven crane]

It does.

[worthy horizon]

ye

[rocky oasis]

so you can probably quadqueue off that if you fuck up your timing

[worthy horizon]

really it should be fine to alternate bullet seed in but i don't understand the passives and sleep interaction to know for certain

[raven crane]

Yeh seems more like a "feel around" type.

[stuck mantle]

And greta did solos?

[bright brook]

i only did bulu

1/5

[tender horizon]

Where the Mushroom solos?

[worthy horizon]

also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTeoGZhcXjI

[bright brook]

https://youtu.be/TXY1zh6AhsI?si=t0QHJhiSjtETF7pN

[stuck mantle]

2 its all?🧐🙂‍↔️

[bright brook]

trying to get 1/5 on latios before i candy her and do other solos

[bright brook]

Devastating

[tender horizon]

Pewpew mind beam

[pearl beacon]

It's a long straw

[bitter gate]

https://youtu.be/jZbT2diYrfc?si=mUh1WFBysaQ1e6c7

Literally no risk lol

Jesus

[tender horizon]

Lol omg

I like Breloom tail wagging animation

[bright brook]

https://youtu.be/JFiIBJmdouU

still havent candied her to 2/5 yet...

going to sleep now tho

[raven crane]

Goodnight!

Rest well.

[heavy sinew]

free gems didn't get me greta

L

[dawn plume]

not saving L

[tender horizon]

Its almost a year since last Moltres LG

Im glad it isnt back yet

[inner turret]

Don't jynx it

[heavy sinew]

I should

Halfway into the month I think it's time to save

[inner turret]

we already got most gems from the month tho

[heavy sinew]

Exactly

[dawn plume]

terrakion eepy

[bright brook]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcHq-W-oyHM

good morning

[rocky oasis]

so she should solo everything except moltres and torn

[bright brook]

probably

working on coba, uxie and cress now

[lost juniper]

Does she require 3/5 for everyone except Entei, Latios, Azelf and Bulu?

[bright brook]

and raikou

[lost juniper]

Oh yeah that too

[bright brook]

but in hindsight registeel and regirock are probably doable at 2/5

i got really close with clearing terrak with 2/5 EXR but gave up eventually and candied her immediately to 3/5 to get it over with

but then i was like yea i probably should have done regirock and registeel first

registeel needs def crush LS tho if 2/5

[lost juniper]

Well that just means they can be lowered. If I get her then maybe I'll use a candy on her to try these

[sturdy steeple]

doc has been updated with akr0's greta runs

(and the klara improvements)

[covert geode]

Cobalion is also done https://x.com/RRRrm268/status/1813128844536422605

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[sturdy steeple]

yippiee

(also forgot to add entei onto that changelog)

[stuck mantle]

So she have 9

Like klara and avery

[sturdy steeple]

(10)

[heavy sinew]

Greta gaming

[pearl beacon]

[stuck mantle]

10 not bad

[bright brook]

11

[stuck mantle]

A she can low random sts

Forgot about it

Then cress can be done also

[heavy sinew]

Natural remedy proc at the end

Surprised it didn't proc with the ice punches

[stuck mantle]

Not bad unit good i scout😏

[lost juniper]

I would've scouted but I must save

See you in a select

[heavy sinew]

See you in mix

[bright brook]

12/14

I dont even wanna think about tornadus since she's flying weak

[worthy horizon]

sleep immune anyway

[lost juniper]

Flying weak? Never happening

[inner turret]

12 was the max expected

moltres and tornadus are impossible

[bright brook]

Was thinking about bruteforcing

[lost juniper]

Bar 3 with piercing gaze though

[bright brook]

Greta can omnibuff and omni debuff

[inner turret]

you're not tanking hurricanes lmao

[bright brook]

thats how uxie was done

Yea if she weren't flying weak i would have tried

Welp too bad

[bright brook]

https://youtu.be/zxBBQ_dLNbI?si=tUbYYG-X-hMR9GZ2

Tfw i ran CS2 against uxie to nuke bar 2 but missed the sync crit

[true tartan]

and finished adding

10 units are on the 12/14

[sturdy steeple]

doc has been updated

[sturdy steeple]

this is saddening

[heavy sinew]

ty nao

[raven crane]

Stupid birds.

https://tenor.com/view/hu-tao-hungry-genshin-impact-genshin-meme-genshin-impact-hu-tao-gif-24184466

[heavy sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-that-i-hate-bird-mario-gif-14971931919061508196

[sturdy steeple]

Dashie is so funny

[heavy sinew]

top 5 funniest people

never gets old

[true tartan]

||I don't understand the gif||

[vital ibex]

he says "that fucking bird that i hate"

and the bird repeats it back like a parrot repeatedly

[rocky oasis]

i still dont get it

[true tartan]

lol

[dawn plume]

easy read

rng wasnt even that bad

she gets cooked by the Terrible Two

[vital ibex]

terrible two goes hard

[bright brook]

Yea i feel like of 3 prime sleep units (nc rosa, ss cyrus and greta), her solos require the least amount of RNG, making her the best unit of all

[dawn plume]

being able to quickly +6 speed and having her innate multiplier be having +6 speed is also very good

[raven crane]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-true-kramer-seinfeld-gif-5503484

[bitter gate]

So I called it

Greta is actually least variance amongst the sleepers

[true tartan]

least variance?

I think that Cyrus is still better than the other 2 (on sleep soloing*)... Greta's biggest advantage is the max move tho

[bitter gate]

Yeah in terms of the full chain I suppose but I think its mostly because of sleep on sync and debuffs

The chaining in itself is much the same I think

[quaint tartan]

Also she reliably buffs her speed and pretty fast too with B move

[tender horizon]

sad waley

[mint osprey]

Scheming wally

[karmic willow]

has someone

put this in the guide yet but

@sturdy steeple Apparently DoT goes first before crit shield can proc if regirocc used iron defense

[sturdy steeple]

That's funny

Makes sense tho

[heavy sinew]

Wait what

[lost juniper]

Did they actually do the solo?

[karmic willow]

no lol

[lost juniper]

That's a bummer

[karmic willow]

i mean

how are you supposed to do it?

you have

limited flinches

a nuke that does not go in your favor

and so on

[lost juniper]

Idk but if they tried maybe they had a plan of how to get it

[karmic willow]

i'm pretty sure

max DR gear

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/26300/56900?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFCQsMDhEUIyUvMDQ1

+6 minimal

and of course, vigilance LS

[heavy sinew]

Its never meant to bw

Be

[stuck mantle]

I new this from last lg

If he die no set crit

[bright brook]

Funny interaction tho

[kind imp]

https://fxtwitter.com/MizoreAwayuki/status/1813661279862890736

[true tartan]

finally, the Flying Steven took the flying weak stage!

[lost juniper]

Not even waiting for the EX R

That's insane

[worthy horizon]

wonder what the skill gear passives are

[worthy horizon]

yea need a translator

[true tartan]

grass DR 3, Critical 3%, special DR 3%, Attack DR 3%, rock Zone DR 4%, fighting Zone DR 4%

[worthy horizon]

gotcha

[lost juniper]

The extra critical damage DR was likely needed

[true tartan]

(I still don't know how I'm supposed to read those)

[lost juniper]

The ranges were very close

[true tartan]

I just know that this is waza

[kind imp]

also zen headbutt dodge

[lost juniper]

That too. But at least it confirms EX R would make this solo easier

And probably means it could be lowered

[true tartan]

yeah, the +4 energy is used on stats

[worthy horizon]

should easily remove the need for +10e

[true tartan]

so 3/5 has access to "all what's needed"

[lost juniper]

Steven lacks the damage at 3/5 I think

Unless like you reroll for some ungodly skill gears with like extra flying damage

[true tartan]

well, under the idea that if he get EX R for it lol

3/5 EX R should be enough with 6 energy

[worthy horizon]

the stats boost and the role itself regardless of what it is should be big enough to remove the need for any overcap i feel like

[true tartan]

the overcap is for the skills there

but depending on what he gets, some can be removed indeed

Summer is still the best strike steven out there...

and he can still get Raikou

[worthy horizon]

ye clear power up 1 can be compensated for i think

[rocky oasis]

support ex would do wonders

just bc of the stats alone

im not convinced that regular steven cant solo bulu

but i aint gonna be the one who does it

not till he gets a proper grid expansion or smth

[true tartan]

his problem is gauge mostly

if there was a way for Bullet Punch to be used more times...

[inner turret]

sync quickening 3 extension

[heavy sinew]

if he got sc Selene's passive it would be a game changer but no

[worthy horizon]

gets a lot of time off the 30% flinches he can land though

[jade ore]

that's not a passive tbf, it's an innate property of the B Move

[worthy horizon]

and he only gets 3 flinches so you have plenty of time to get them

would look decent to me but only the person who attempts would know exactly how it plays out

fast track ls

[tender horizon]

at last

[rocky oasis]

give steven MGR9 please

[true tartan]

ok: X Attack: MGR9

[rocky oasis]

evil

[worthy horizon]

one thing early grids were good at was avoiding putting mgr on tms

was annoying when that changed

[heavy sinew]

why did they do that

[lost juniper]

Meanwhile Psyduck

[heavy sinew]

they just wanted to fuck around with people who have 2/5 units with the MPRs locked at 3/5?

[sturdy steeple]

yes

[shy sinew]

I think of it as +reading propaganda because I always read the MGR tiles as MPR at first

[kind imp]

Does anyone even grid mgr on TMs?

[worthy horizon]

sometimes they're important bridges to get to some other skills

[kind imp]

Ye

[worthy horizon]

as for their actual use idr ever utilizing them

or needing them

[heavy sinew]

why must they do this

[true tartan]

you pick MGR because it costs 7 while the other route costs 8-10

[sturdy steeple]

it was really funny trust me

[kind imp]

The only time I can remember it being useful is to let ss lyra chain off grassy terrain

Goes from just 30% with just ft2 to 58% with mgr3, good for cress

But that's bc she's 1/5
Even just more stat tiles would be better

[pearl beacon]

Ams you have 1 use

No refills

7 energy for 1 gauge bar

[dawn plume]

i tried steven on entei with +10 energy

its bad

i got to bar 3 once out of like 100 attempts and just dropped immediately

he needs a grid expansion fs

[pearl beacon]

And possibly a good cake

Tech or sprint would be such a scam

[vital ibex]

I would hope he gets support

[dawn plume]

i wouldnt mind the speed lol

[worthy horizon]

only problem with tech would be the fact that strike/tech is somewhat saturated but otherwise i think it's still good

[vital ibex]

But yeah he needs the ghetsis treatment of like, mgr 9 on his main attacking move and sync freebie

[dawn plume]

sync quickening is best case scenario

that bullet punch staggering tile becomes amazing

[vital ibex]

I feel like that's kind of

[sturdy steeple]

support best by far

[inner turret]

sorry field

actually field gives defense

sorry sprint

[raven crane]

Strike (again.)

[inner turret]

nah that's what sync stone ultimate will do

increase the effect of the main role

[raven crane]

But, don't you want +40 offenses and absolutely nothing else..?

[inner turret]

+100 HP

[raven crane]

-Bugged, doesn't work.

https://tenor.com/view/hu-tao-gif-22989237

[inner turret]

strike -> ok idk, more damage ig but then it's just tech
tech -> x2 damage
support -> 3 sync buffs
sprint -> -6 countdown
field -> extended for approximately 1 more sync cycle

[raven crane]

Could make Strike overpowered.

-Hits for super effective damage always.

[inner turret]

PALMER

[raven crane]

Well just the Nuke.

Still though.

[vital ibex]

strike damages health bars that arent available yet

like in 3v9s or LAs

[dawn plume]

3v9s in 2024

[vital ibex]

[bright brook]

After 2 months of trying

[rocky oasis]

the only TM mgr thats useful is cyrus

[dawn plume]

HUH

[heavy sinew]

oh snap

[dawn plume]

potion mpr simulator

extreme

[heavy sinew]

I'm guessing 13 potions

[rocky oasis]

cyrus TM mgr lets you quadqueue off a TM

[bright brook]

https://youtu.be/TgJlc-I-hfE?si=e43NWC1goBQ3MTDJ

[bitter gate]

@bright brook you been pushing really hard, damn

[rocky oasis]

idk if he can do latias

[median swan]

think registeel's more possible

[bright brook]

was thinking registeel as well

[pearl beacon]

Yooo nice

[heavy sinew]

Was off by 4 potions

[pearl beacon]

And Entei got boned too 🦴

[dawn plume]

does this mean 9 potions or 17

ok 9 lmao

[bright brook]

imagine 17 potions

[sturdy steeple]

iono moltres moment (pls make it happen someone)

[stuck mantle]

Daze need comeback 😎

[dawn plume]

iono def needs 17 potions

at least

[stuck mantle]

Iono is same issue like sycamore

You get at point off game when he will kill you one hit befor you heal

[dawn plume]

well iono has unbending on grid

that helps somewhat

[stuck mantle]

Sycamore have imprevoius

Wat different lol

[dawn plume]

she can buff her def to +6

sycamore cant really

unless you run stoic

[stuck mantle]

Stoic

Yes

But he deal damage you need wait for b move

[heavy sinew]

idk how iono of all units can do it but I'm hoping it happens

[hallow gull]

I remember Sycamore problem is that he cant crit reliable

[stuck mantle]

Problem is he is burn

And moltres have 7-8 buff one shoot

[heavy sinew]

one crit from Moltres and reset

[stuck mantle]

Dont need crit 8 buff fire blast on sun

Its game end

[chrome halo]

Every new solo discovered since the end of LG15 amazed me at some point. Shout out to Akr0 for the hard work

[bright brook]

difference is that sycamore is almost guaranteed to be a no-go and even if he crits all of his moves his healing is fixed, while iono theoretically has infinate healing and theoretically could take on moltres given enough potions

[sturdy steeple]

exactly what akr0 said

simply a potion issue for her (and motivation issue for attempts for those who are even capable)

[heavy sinew]

-0 motivation

[bitter gate]

Resource diff + motivation diff

Kek

[sturdy steeple]

klara finally fueled my motivation this month to do solos again during LG downtime shes really cool

[heavy sinew]

common Klara W

[bitter gate]

Waiting for Masters Day

[heavy sinew]

She's very fun

[bitter gate]

For the jasmine solo

Mine is +10E alrd

[sturdy steeple]

[heavy sinew]

Jasmine's strongest soldier

[bitter gate]

Idt she can do anything besides Bulu

But still an extra solo nonetheless

[heavy sinew]

She did Raikou right?

[bitter gate]

No she just did Regirock + latios

She just explodes to Raikou

Even with WE

[sturdy steeple]

[heavy sinew]

ah rip

[sturdy steeple]

she will get crit tho + more healing so we shall see

[bitter gate]

But I'm very sure Bulu is guaranteed at this point

Just need to see what cookie is ideal

FT or mad strength

Or grass guard

[sturdy steeple]

jasmines gyro ball is also powered up vs raikou lmao

[bitter gate]

I can try it ofc but

[heavy sinew]

I think ft is the play

[bitter gate]

Paralysis + no speed

Is annoying

[bitter gate]

Same, but I'm still taking rejuv

[sturdy steeple]

dont get para'd as shrimple as that

[bitter gate]

Unless I test it and she no longer needs it

[heavy sinew]

thunder fang para:

[kind imp]

everything para's
i hate raikou

[bitter gate]

We still have no Raikou LG

Chances are next month we get it

So that'll be interesting

[chrome halo]

Imagine Cresselia

[pearl beacon]

Me dropping hErika run
DC is rewuiring some time

[chrome halo]

[heavy sinew]

shhhh don't remind me of how close you were

indescribable pain

[pearl beacon]

And I still have to upload all the LG clears for the repository 💀
Sorry Garkon

[kind imp]

duos should be less annoying bc only the tank should get paralysed
but i won't be doing more long paralysis dodging solos

[heavy sinew]

i gotta update the auto doc

hate 9-5s they're so boring

[chrome halo]

Dw i haven't updated the doc in a long while 💀 too much irl stuff happened

[heavy sinew]

real

[chrome halo]

Most recent work is done by Lydian

[pearl beacon]

People will rush LG farming from now on

[worthy horizon]

i'm planning on labbing out and uploading auto teams when next lg is announced

[pearl beacon]

A1 HS1 SP3, love how the newer gamemode is just giving more importance to LG

[heavy sinew]

You're right

[bright brook]

Next month is most likely raikou moltres latias

[heavy sinew]

Finally Raikou

I've been dying for one of them

At least there's a good amount of solos

[bright brook]

Dying to get paralyzed to death?

[heavy sinew]

Hell yea

[worthy horizon]

the lineups don't seem super evenly distributed

if they were then latias moltres would be nearly guaranteed

latias and moltres were already supposed to be likely last lineup and they didn't happen

[heavy sinew]

they could just throw a curveball and bring in a whole different lineup

but I do see latias and moltres returning

Latias my behated

[sturdy steeple]

i had 3 1% paraflinches from thunderfang today while improving the klara solo it was fucked up

wheres my 3/5 masterfair dena

[heavy sinew]

this tiger is fucked up bruh

[sturdy steeple]

heheheheh

[true tartan]

potion solos...

[stuck mantle]

Iono need take 10 moves and 2 syncs from him on bar 2/3

And if she sync and use b move she can even kill him?

How she survive not sure if potions heal this damage . From bar 3.

[worthy horizon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=792CAqmSuqw

got that pretty instantly

[heavy sinew]

Nice

I can afford a 2nd unit, idk if I should aim for someone different or keep getting Gladion from it

[worthy horizon]

i didn't have any use for anything else

wally might actually help for single target ghost when that happens, nemona will be my only rock zone setter but i don't think i need it

[shy sinew]

for me they’re just +1 body but I also have Gladion and Wally now and they’re my top two candidates to get multiple copies of, but not really sure how I’ll invest beyond the first exchange of each

[dawn plume]

i got gladion and marnie, will get wally next

marnie just in case i wanted to use her for hse (i did not)

[chrome halo]

I aim to get one of each pair then focus on 3/5 Gladion

[heavy sinew]

Fair

[pearl beacon]

Noiice, gladion is so good

Probably the first I'll 3/5

[heavy sinew]

What unfortunate strike does to a unit

[pearl beacon]

Unless I start being suspicious abt anni update

[pearl beacon]

Make it double 📈

[dawn plume]

the fact he cant buff his offenses at ALL is annoying but supports are plentiful

[pearl beacon]

Ye, eggmonfixes are there

[worthy horizon]

lol have another one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCybIX5U2qc

grid and gear in the comments

[worthy horizon]

not grinding this out rn but i suspect support primeape or perrserker could be enough to enable some more stuff even for just 2/5

+2 atk spe crit and brick break for shields too

can run vigilance

entei and raikou being prime targets as well as the pictured registeel

[raven crane]

Lmao unlucky debuffs, kinda.

[worthy horizon]

unfortunate (strike 4)

[raven crane]

Me.

[worthy horizon]

pairing with pryce or another damage dealer seems like a potential idea but with his tm only buffing one target at a time and splitting focus away from triple axel debuffs

not really as good as running an eggmon support to patch his missing boosts (attack, speed, crit)

my impression, not extensively tested or anything

[stuck mantle]

Gladion is realy good for lg

When i get nemona and wally i get him 2 copy then

[bright brook]

Gladion would have gotten at least 3 more solos if he were able to crit

[inner turret]

sharp entry 1

when i first saw him I expected to see stacking strike in his grid but nope

[lost juniper]

Best I've gotten with 1/5 Acerola against Terrakion. It might be doable but it sucks so much if it is

[raven crane]

Bit of an unrealistic expectation in my opinion.

Afterall they didn't even give him Attack buffs..

[heavy sinew]

7 sync buffs

Wtf

[quaint tartan]

They had to nerf him to make his paid counterpart shine

[inner turret]

true!

[lost juniper]

You just don't deal damage. She can't crit so sp. defense makes it more bulky

Acerola can tank well above half unless Terrakion lands a nat crit

[true tartan]

reminds me of the Bellelba attempt on Terrakion

she handled it well until CC critted lol

but I didn't expect to win lol

[bright brook]

What a lovely afternoon ladies and genies

[lost juniper]

I knew she could do it

[heavy sinew]

9 syncs from torn

Shes just built different

[bright brook]

She probably has like 69 sync buffs

[lost juniper]

Wonder if her solo is longer than Rika's

That one was so long it had to be made into 2 videos

[rotund rain]

Movie length solo somehow

[errant plume]

The first solo that requires 3/5 EX R

I didn't have a cake for her to do it, went to half of bar 2 without cake

[quaint tartan]

How many recover mprs?

[bright brook]

trust me it requires a lot more than that

[true tartan]

3/5 is too little

[errant plume]

I'll not be surprised if you needed +10E dw

[bright brook]

think of it like elaine solo

this is moreso the same

[errant plume]

Oh true I didn't notice he was at -6 SpDef

30%+ Flying DR gaming

[bright brook]

ye

the solo is 19 minutes long

[heavy sinew]

bruh

[errant plume]

Well, going half of bar 2 with no Flying DR, no Mind Games (I had Flying Guard) and no cake was already kind of nice, she "just" needed a big boost of her damage to go Bar 3

[vagrant crypt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKilf5UFwvc

[bright brook]

https://youtu.be/SpZtRqsJf3w?si=2bMceCa7LzB_zGfG

[lost juniper]

Moltres?

[bright brook]

lmao

fixed

thanks man

[vagrant crypt]

Skill Gears :

Bracelet : 20HP, 70Atk, 25Def
•Grass S-Move up 2%
•Physical S-Moves up 2%
•Ghost S-Moves up 2%

Bandana : 30Hp, 75SpAtk, 30SpDef
•S-Move DR 3%

Pin : 100Hp, 15Def, 20SpAtk
•Status Cond : S-Moves up 4%
•Ghost Zone : Moves up 4%
•Atk Moves DR 3%

Lucky skill : Vigilance.

[lost juniper]

Maybe it's a sign you will get Moltres LA too

[bright brook]

ive tried moltres before torn

healing sun 2 is pure evil

moltres heals more than what acerola does unless she flinches like 100 times in a row

[lost juniper]

That's a shame, though maybe stalling on Bar 1 work better to farm more buffs?

[lost juniper]

Or even on Bar 2 since before half it shouldn't be that bad

[heavy sinew]

ball guy can do torn?

Ik he can't do Moltres

[bright brook]

you won't wanna stay in bar 1 either

blitz does like almost half

and that's with sunny DR SG

bar 2 is the only "easy" bar, but acerola hits on type so it's also impossible to stall

[bright brook]

easily

he can para

[heavy sinew]

Oh right I forgot he has destructive touch

I am slowly losing touch

[lost juniper]

I wouldn't call it easily since para is random and if it doesn't happen often you're screwed

[true tartan]

it was "easily" before the change haha..

[worthy horizon]

i thought bar 3 would be easiest if you have debuff immunity

[lost juniper]

Before half bar Moltres shouldn't have flare blitz right?

[worthy horizon]

was in my experience

and bar 2 is the big wall

[bright brook]

yea

brave bird is still awful tho

[lost juniper]

I mean it was still random to get it so still a lot of an rng factor

[bright brook]

for a tech maybe, acerola can't keep up with healing sun

[lost juniper]

I see, though maybe in Bar 2 Acerola could abuse Moltres healing itself

[bright brook]

yea, just boils down to getting enough flinches

and recover

[lost juniper]

I can see it being done. Definitely

If you got to Bar 3 it's just a matter of flinches

[errant plume]

Feels like MH didn't change much, like getting +20HP and other defensive stats would also do the job

[bright brook]

yea i was just afraid of the random fly crits

but in hindsight i probably didnt need MH yea

[lost juniper]

Maybe that grid could work for Moltres?

[sturdy steeple]

invested maximumly

[lost juniper]

Would allow you to use Vigilance or Fire Guard even

[errant plume]

Cracked Pin damn, Bracelet/Bandanna can be improved with more resets on them with Blue Feathers

[lost juniper]

Still though, these are some ungodly feathers

[bright brook]

was gonna if i didnt get it

[bright brook]

hmm no crits?

[lost juniper]

I don't think it matters as much

[bright brook]

in my past attempts i used flameproof

[lost juniper]

She'd appreciate the extra bulk

Especially against sun boosted fire moves, and would allow easier stalling

[bright brook]

why...

like acerola already has terrbile dps

taking away crits just makes it worse for her

[worthy horizon]

yeah i'd expect increased damage output to be best

[lost juniper]

Idk it's a different approach

[bright brook]

and she actually needs to do enough damage to get past bar 1 quick otherwise she's cooked by blitz

not being able to debuff moltres sucks

[lost juniper]

With Fire Guard it's not as bad. That's 30% damage reduction

[bright brook]

she cant tank shit

[worthy horizon]

you can't just tank through moltres

learned that with kabu solo attempts

+3 fire rebuff, flying guard, vigilance on grid

everything going for it but damage output

can't cross bar 1

[bright brook]

even so it spams only flare blitz

the only way out is to attack and flinch

and not taking a defensive approach

[lost juniper]

Well then I guess the only way is to try to stall Bar 2

Let Acerola abuse Moltres healing itself to farm buffs. I know she does super effective damage but still

[worthy horizon]

double kabu run also lacks damage output so even that isn't super straightforward but healing every turn on top of all the rest makes it manageable

[bright brook]

Yea i'd let moltres attack once or twice when acerola's HP is full during bar 2

Not like i need to anyway because 40% chance is in fact, really low

[worthy horizon]

but a singular unit is never going to replicate that level of sustain

flinch chance and damage output are far more likely to get anything done with moltres

can't really say “never” but it's not reasonable to expect at this point in time

[bitter gate]

Damn, Acerola beat torn allegations

[lost juniper]

If anyone wants to try, 2/5 Acerola can probably solo Raikou

All she needs is the speed debuffing

Maybe if I get some insane electric dr gear she could tank enough hits to live

[true tartan]

I think Naomi was attempting it at 2/5 too

[sturdy steeple]

I've gotten like 3 moves away before with just 2 ex

Exr should make it shrimple

I ran mind games

Save a recover for bar 3

[lost juniper]

You were using electric guard or lithe?

Oh nvm I saw now lol

[sturdy steeple]

Heheh

[lost juniper]

I think either of the two might work better

I got close so with 2/5 it might be enough

[sturdy steeple]

Mind games works way better because you actually do damage

[lost juniper]

Yeah but paralysis sucks a lot

[sturdy steeple]

Exr is an auto win thanks to the extra stats and more damage

It sucks but it's liveable

[lost juniper]

Oh yeah for sure

[sturdy steeple]

(tho I lost due to para)

[lost juniper]

Another reason to use lithe

I didn't want to gamble with it

Her healing is good enough

[sturdy steeple]

She needs the damage

Her healing and gauge are both good enough to be okay with being paralyzed

The reason I lost is cause bar 3 hits too fucking hard and it's a damage race (and got para'd on 3 water guns

[lost juniper]

I do think that with extra gauge from water gun mgr 2/5 EX R on Regirock might be doable

I got to almost half Bar 3 with 1/5 so it should be better if her gauge is better

I'm tempted to candy just to try it

[sturdy steeple]

She's likely gonna eat 2 candies in da future anyways since she's literally so good for LG so just invest now if you wanna do it

[lost juniper]

Yeah might as well snag Raikou now

[sturdy steeple]

By all means go for it

[lost juniper]

I'm looking forward to see you lower it too

[sturdy steeple]

If I manage to, it's really annoying

[heavy sinew]

Acerola stonks 📈📈

[lost juniper]

Got him

It's pretty easy unless you get unlucky with paralysis on Bar 3. Sync does a lot

[heavy sinew]

W

[sturdy steeple]

Mind gaming

[lost juniper]

https://youtu.be/s8iT8rLi8HI

[heavy sinew]

who up minding they games 2

9 minute run

but tbf most acerola runs are very long

[lost juniper]

I mean her Uxie solo took 19 minutes

And idk how long it took nao to do the Terrakion solo but when I attempted it each one took like 15 minutes at least

[sturdy steeple]

it was like 16 minutes

[heavy sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-moly-gif-2379897567703251318

[lost juniper]

I imagine my attempt at Regirock would be longer

Bar 3 is so tanky and her sp. attack gonna be at -6 eventually

[true tartan]

me remembering the Uxie auto battle lol

it should've taken just 16-17 min

it took a bit longer because I didn't turn off Sync Animations, I did it mid-run... and the post-unit showcase made it go to 18-19min

[dawn plume]

https://vxtwitter.com/MizoreAwayuki/status/1815187250789183570 why did this look easy

oh it apparently was easy

no one had invested this much in alt leon before

i guess

[heavy sinew]

mfw 2/5 leon

[worthy horizon]

seems lowerable but 0/5 here

could skip orb investment

[heavy sinew]

I think 3/5 is definitely the lowest it can go

needs BS5 for the nuke, otherwise idk if he can survive the onslaught

[worthy horizon]

yea 3/5 +0e is what i was thinking

[heavy sinew]

Vigi LS

good skill gear and maybe 3 misses in bar 1 could work

Could probably replace the sync node and an hp node for catalyst

[worthy horizon]

yea skipping catalyst wouldn't be good

[heavy sinew]

I guess that can work, idk if raising my 2/5 Leon is worth it for this tho

[dawn plume]

hmm idk he is using the bogo 9 tile

[worthy horizon]

nah don't need to

[dawn plume]

that seems important here

[worthy horizon]

i also completely overlooked the fact that that tile is 5/5 when i thought that it could go to 3/5

[bright brook]

I added tech Ninetales to alt leon 3/5 ex in LG14 and even so ninetales needed to dodge like 3 hurricanes

[heavy sinew]

Yea I think that's the only issue in bar 1

[dawn plume]

yea he dodged 2 hurricanes

i think thats the only hard requirement for this

[pearl beacon]

5/5 Techs

[dawn plume]

i wonder what ex role he will get when the time comes

[true tartan]

:T

[rocky oasis]

anything other than striker please

[true tartan]

wonder how many EX Roles will August bring to us

[rocky oasis]

literally anything

[true tartan]

||what's striker anyway...|| Either support or field would be quite good, sprint so-so thanks to the speed

[pearl beacon]

Hope they'll give justice to some old ones

They did Red then ehhhh

~~ not pointing Gloria bcs need her for DC ~~

[rocky oasis]

they did ssred but not the rest of the kantrio

[quaint tartan]

Sprint SSLeaf and field SSBlue

[river cliff]

I'd happily take support ss leaf

[true tartan]

https://youtu.be/ganVCOoB7lc?si=v4XZSxZZMjo8SKZs

here comes rafa

[worthy horizon]

here come dat boi

[true tartan]

of course, with a Rafa at the end

[stuck mantle]

Leon alt nice solo

[heavy sinew]

My king

[stuck mantle]

Stdk can i ask you something i apply rebuff 2 and target have -4 defence. Or i aplly 1 rebuff and -6 defence. Wat is better for damage? 1 or 2 way? Thanks

[rocky oasis]

2 rebuff is 50% dmg boost iirc

1 rebuff is 30%

[true tartan]

depends on the mitigations

-2 is x1.5 damage / (1 - (1 - 0.62) x (1 - mit))
-1 is x1.3 damage / (1 - (1 - 0.55) x (1 - mit))

[rocky oasis]

gotta wonder if weve ever seen a stage w/ rebuff mitigation

[stuck mantle]

Mitigation is 5

[true tartan]

-2 and -4 Def: x1.5/0.81 = x1.85185....
-1 and -6 Def: x1.3/0.775 = x1.67742....

x1.5 over x1.3 is x1.15 higher while 0.81 is (x1.2345...) vs 0.775 (x1.29032) is x1.045 higher

not a big advantage

[stuck mantle]

So 2 rebuff and -4 is better

Thanks

[lost juniper]

Yesss finally!!!!

I always believed that he can do it

[heavy sinew]

Speedy entry 2 instead of vigi

[rotund rain]

to the surprise of absolutely nobody

[lost juniper]

https://youtu.be/Mf4ydX7HTRU?si=aSRR-kJ_wKy8X68B

He got Registeel too

Nvm Registeel isn't a new clear. Still lowered it

[heavy sinew]

I wonder if it's worth it to cake geeta or hilbert in the long run

for DC and LG

[worthy horizon]

neither of their cakes should be needed for lg

geeta isn't an optimal damage dealer for dc but hilbert is

upside to geeta is having the more unique role combo for rally

[heavy sinew]

I guess that's true

[worthy horizon]

but yea i'd favor hilbert a ton

[heavy sinew]

Hilbert it is

[worthy horizon]

i have both caked now but i caked hilbert first

[heavy sinew]

Ahh

Yea the only options I have are geeta, Hilbert and Mix Blue but ig hilbert needs it more

[sturdy steeple]

you can still get 1 mil on bug 3v3 without a caked hilbert so i didnt cake him

as a stingy lg player i dont see using cakes on units who dont need them for anything else for like 50 more training tickets for free units that will be maxed out eventually anyways is ever gonna be worth it to me

and if you already consistently get 9.5k+ points in rally then youre just free to cake anyone you want for anything u want

[worthy horizon]

it really is more for the big number than the rewards

i already have more tickets than i want to spend on anything

[sturdy steeple]

if you value that bigger number more than the rewards than thats valid, just stating my perspective on the resource game

[worthy horizon]

ye

[heavy sinew]

stingy

But understandable

[worthy horizon]

yea fair and important to consider

[raven crane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5N3ohCGc7c&t=1s

[chrome halo]

congrats on being poma partner, Salamence

just saw your community post

[heavy sinew]

Poma partner, humongous W

[pearl beacon]

Yoo nice, congrats

Now that you're infiltrated you can get info abt the next LG right?

[pearl beacon]

None gets huge advantages on LG
But Hilbo is amazing for BR DC and CS (if that is even relevant) or I guess an eventual bug UB

[heavy sinew]

me when I get my 5th tech strike unit (my other units who want the strike cake are pleading to no avail)

[pearl beacon]

Oooof

But it's not so bad, tech strike is quite common on BR

[dawn plume]

oh yeah theres a new lg in like 2 weeks probably

too bad im starting a new job soon

[median swan]

can't wait for all the dc enthusiasts to commit to farming LG for the deluxe cookies only to be met by moltres

[dawn plume]

in order to make my life easier i have finally ex’d every ex-able support in my roster. bless this skip month for giving me time to farm resources lol

should be good for gauntlet

give me ex cheryl…

[river cliff]

I still have BP Olivia and Lodge Raihan left but I kind of want to see how many BP supports we get at anni and if they finally let us EX the master BP pairs

Rachel and Sawyer possibly getting their EXes when Lear gets his EX role/grid expansion is also something I'm anticipating

[sturdy steeple]

hell yeahhh

[bitter gate]

Welcome to the club

Now 20/20 your others too

I currently have Regirock,Mesprit and eve on 20/20

But I want to 20/20 and ex all my ghosts first

I only have 3 left

[bitter gate]

next HS is Dragon/Ground

Give me the Lisia expansion cowards

And let her finally do some LG solos

[stuck mantle]

This lg will be cookies grind🤣

First lg when most players will be playing🤣🤣

From 1 too last day

[bitter gate]

Why

[stuck mantle]

For dc

Not all have like us them

Most gold one have around 0

Head start super 3

Are most need

[bitter gate]

I see

Im gonna fail again aren't I

[stuck mantle]

Hard tell if they score or just grind

Score is better since you get it

Grind is luck need for gold one

[true tartan]

thought there was something LA/solo related being talked here...

[stuck mantle]

If they anounce it early we could talk stdk🤣

Lg is forgot event for dena hse and dc on 1 place

This we now wat happend in many resets

[true tartan]

[stuck mantle]

But gloria alt is quen lg now dc🤣

Solo🤣

Haha

[bitter gate]

They usually adjust expansions according to HS releases (except Clemont, but electric is rich)

so am expecting waifu to get hers and well

Maybe she can finally solo a few

Recuperation alone would secure Latios and Bulu

the rest depends on what the others are

[true tartan]

I see

depends on what they do if they keep following that pattern or not I suppose

[river cliff]

Maybe they'll give start giving the older pokefairs EX roles while they're at it, Lance and Cynthia in particular this time around

[worthy horizon]

ss blue field pls ty

[pearl beacon]

If you can go 100+, and you can, go for score
Of all farming I did in the past the 3* gains are still minimal

I farmed mainly for bronze and silver deluxe, for the entries

So pushing on streak ensure 1 deluxe each clear

[stuck mantle]

Most from farm is bronze and silver

Gold is random

[bitter gate]

we don't have a lot of ground fairs

so chances are they'll just give Lance/cynthia/leon them

[tender crater]

Lisia power boost in preperation please

[raven crane]

I fucking WISH.

[lost juniper]

Maybe influence them to announce the next LG early

[vital ibex]

lisia needs a lot 💀

she needs a new innate

mfw you cant use your type boosting zone because it deactivates your innate

towering force wouldve been so much better since she maxes it in 2 turns

[bright brook]

Did we just get an infiltrator?

Please just tell dena that grouping moltres and latias into a rotation is NOT a good idea

[lost juniper]

DeNA: So Moltres and Cress it is then?

[bright brook]

Pain

[stuck mantle]

Give me moltres

I need nc blue finnish 14/14

He only left for me😘

[raven crane]

Amazing idea!

[lost juniper]

More prep time would be appreciated too

[raven crane]

I mean amazing idea to make you all suffer.

Hehehe.

[lost juniper]

Anything but Latios, Tapu Bulu and Entei LA, that's my worst nightmare

[raven crane]

Free tickets!

[bitter gate]

isn't that unironically hard because of the "easy" management

I remembered someone complaining about it

[lost juniper]

Could be, but idk what's easier

[inner turret]

yes

Latios LG are hard their own way because Latios is too easy, so a LG with the easiest 3 is actually hard to tryhard

[shy sinew]

probably me ngl, less things to think about when they’re easier to counter

[karmic willow]

Wait really?

Huh

Maybe i should shit talk more about the game

@sturdy steeple one day we might be poma partners too if we talk about how much other modes suck

[karmic willow]

LET'S GOOOOOOO

A real goal tbh

[sturdy steeple]

you can apply, i just havent

[karmic willow]

How do I apply even

My channel barren af

Can't make thumbnails and I suck at editing

Idk what are the perks tbh

[karmic willow]

Naomi did a bit

Something about optimal clears are a pain

And

I stand by that

To hell with all dodge clears

On units without recup or regen or ridicule

[lost juniper]

I think that objectively the the hardest lineup is Terrakion, Moltres and Tornadus

Literally all three are hell (I ignored Cress since she never appeared)

[river cliff]

2 needing field effects to clear is also pain

I think I learned from this last gauntlet that any kind of overlap makes things pretty miserable

[lost juniper]

Terrakion, Moltres and Regirock is also super miserable

Two rock type arenas, and another two needing WTZ

And you can't even save the easy ones for Regirock

[kind imp]

Uxie, coba, torn

[raven crane]

Rood.

[raven crane]

There’s a form from like four years ago you can apply to.

[karmic willow]

Send link

But

@raven crane do you get extra gems and whatnot?

[raven crane]

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/D67GHTZ

[karmic willow]

Should i make more videos before this?

[raven crane]

Prooobably.

Put out some hit Legendary Gauntlet master guides.

[karmic willow]

"just reset lol"

"nah i'd mash"

"most pullers quit before they hit the jackpot"

"nah i'd trio",

[raven crane]

“Nah I’d flinch lock.”

[karmic willow]

"What do you mean Rosa isn't the best girl?"

How could I forget my signature

"look guys all i'm saying is that you should normalize the double hairbun hairstyle"

[inner turret]

she got one of the best personal ls, that's something

[karmic willow]

I KNOW RIGHT

"look guys base Rosa is better than base SS Red because she can solo more than him"

[inner turret]

overall she prefers enlightenment, vigi or fast track i believe

[karmic willow]

Stoic 2 for bulu solo

[inner turret]

yeah

she got a good personal ls but it's not good on her specifically

like zekrom with imperv lol

[karmic willow]

Imprev broken

[inner turret]

he wants cs2 bcs his damage is trash

[karmic willow]

Nah vigilance

So he doesn't die to random stuff

[inner turret]

both

not imperv either way

[raven crane]

https://tenor.com/view/rosa-pokemon-eyebrows-raised-look-at-me-gif-16754817

[karmic willow]

Real

Should have been downside up smh

Steven got the best passived

Too bad he suck

Impervious good

Power chain ew

Hail caller good

Entire kit too outdated so not his problem innatelt

Downside up goated

But

Anni steven suck

Ss steven so good though

I remember like

Having a dream where

Pay 2k to select him asap

And then

Mix scout 2.0

God that was a wild dream

I also saw editing gauntlet clears in that dream

[dawn plume]

lets use which pokefairs need reruns and which need ex roles to determine the next lg

i think anni raihan reruns in september for hse but i wouldnt be shocked to see a different dragon pokefair next month if latias is back

[chrome halo]

SS Blue, Ingo and Diantha you can thank me later

[raven crane]

Sygna Suit Leon.

[inner turret]

Lear should rerun soon

no ex role, no expansion whatsoever

[pearl beacon]

If he reruns w upgrades there's a chance for Rachel/Sawyer EX

[dawn plume]

doubt he will rerun for an lg banner cuz terrakion just happened and they chose ss lana lol

but he should rerun

[vital ibex]

praying for rachel sawyer exs

(with unique ex outfits)

[dawn plume]

alt leon needs a rerun mayb its his time

[heavy sinew]

Potionchu ex

[shy sinew]

Latios, Latias, Cobalion because why not

[raven crane]

I predict him for the HSE.

[dawn plume]

i doubt they would run latios and latias

latias is just harder latios

[river cliff]

They could attempt to do some crossover between the hse and gauntlet banners, do something like Iris and Cynthia and then have a Raikou/Latios gauntlet

[shy sinew]

smh how else would Diantha get an EX role?

[bright brook]

Tbf i dislike latios in a LG rotation

Latios budget teams still suck, and LG runners do it anyway because...optimizations

[lost juniper]

Alt Leon with strike exr for hse???

That or CIris

[dawn plume]

one or both of them gets strike fs

becomes the key for aoe dragon damage challenge (except for the one in the ranked mode cuz no sync moves haha!!)

[lost juniper]

I want Iris to have it so she could solo Latias

And Raikou too

I don't mind Alt Leon getting something else

[bright brook]

Give him support

[raven crane]

Latios, Latias and new Regice Arena! Triple Hoenn.

[shy sinew]

atp if you’re going to do a new Regi just make it Regidrago because we obviously need more dragon LAs

[bright brook]

Ngl regice sounds like

Ice beam HE9

[raven crane]

Last Word.

[river cliff]

Can't wait for bar 3 sure hit sure crit blizzard to freeze my entire team with that 5% split freeze chance

And having to deal with hail/ice zone

[lost juniper]

So Moltres but with ice instead of fire?

Or that NC Red fight in the special stadium

[vital ibex]

i think a LA with last word would be so funny highkey

and it has one for each healthbar

50% HP: Use Move: Explosion

[river cliff]

What's explosion's bp?

Last word would be really mean

[kind imp]

350 1/5
420 5/5 I think

Oh also

We already have explosion in a la

Bar 2 and 3 raikou's electrode

I don't remember if there's a solo that does smth funny with it

[raven crane]

Yeah I unironically thought about making that a concept.

Piercing Blows, Frost Breath, Critical Crit 9.

[sturdy steeple]

Please spare us

[raven crane]

https://tenor.com/view/beckon-ganondaddy-gif-6153425798593820100

[lost juniper]

SC Zinnia's solo relied on an explosion miss

[lost juniper]

So Palmer UB in a LG?

[raven crane]

With 3 Last Words, yes.

Evasion is your BESTIE.

[lost juniper]

NC Bianca would solo anyways

[raven crane]

Probably.

[hallow gull]

Just flinch it

[raven crane]

Shut up Pykuo.

[lost juniper]

If that happens I'd give it 0 mitigations for sleep, freeze and flinch

Gotta kill it somehow

[raven crane]

It would die just fine.

And so would you.

No but it uses Last Word, kills you, you use Last Word back.

What happens?

[lost juniper]

NC Red has protect

Amateur

[hallow gull]

Last Words will not activate if you flinch/sleep/freeze before that tho

[lost juniper]

That too

You'd probably sleep chain it to win anyways

SS Cyrus gets a free win

[raven crane]

Yeah.

[lost juniper]

And SS Lyra but she's ice weak

[raven crane]

Though if that Frost Breath lands, or natural crit.

Good luck.

[lost juniper]

I mean SS Lyra just flinches to death

Probably will never get it off

[raven crane]

Yeah but I mean a failed queue.

Or somethin, which is easy to go around (duo.)

But just one failure being a death sentence is ick.

[lost juniper]

Tbh if I had to design a new LG boss it wouldn't be Regice

I'd make a pokemon from a new trio

[hallow gull]

It’d be Articuno with Hail + Blizzard spam + evasion when Hail

[lost juniper]

Yikes

Moltres + Cress but ice sure would suck

I hate the CRed fight in csmm

[hallow gull]

What if Regidrago

Has really slow speed

But always throw stupid strong move

Bypass Protect too

So you’ll need to win fast again that thing

[sturdy steeple]

grass poison weak fini 🙏

[vital ibex]

we should get proper fairy, grass, flying poison** and ice weak bosses

instead of just being one (1) health bar

[river cliff]

I just want to see the treasures of ruin. No Ting Lu or Chi Yu please though, we have enough ground and fire moves being thrown around

[river cliff]

I'd say Bulu is close enough since he's weak on 2 bars to flying

[vital ibex]

oh i mixed up which bar was poison and which bar was flying

i meant poison

[half bone]

I can’t even clear the moltres

One bruh

[lost juniper]

Check the pins in the Legendary Arena channel. There are some team ideas to help you beat it

[inner turret]

I already told them some days ago

[rocky oasis]

anyone else running out of feathers

DC is eating up so many just from trying to get an extra 8% sync dmg or so

[chrome halo]

I wish the training area bonus lasts for longer

[worthy horizon]

good thing about dc is it not consuming 2* crunchy cookies so you can safely put your stamina towards skill feathers or at least not be in total danger over losing those

the mode is not resource-intensive if you simply don't let the scores get to your head

also you aren't competing for the top if you don't have tons of everything anyway

also as nice as it is to have around the mode is still pretty shallow and there's much less strategy than in gauntlet and stuff

learning to settle with something a bit lower than the best you know you could possibly attain will give you soooo much more freedom with resources

[inner turret]

^

Rn I have 4 tech candies, something that never would've happened in the past lol

[chrome halo]

Give me all of them

[inner turret]

if anything, some of them are going on an anni unit and some on sc steven

and what's left either saved or on irida since I could really afford a 3/5 irida to make my life easier

[pearl beacon]

Rally farm 📈
Btw kinda low but not that bad

[sturdy steeple]

cant run out of feathers if you dont use them 😎

[chrome halo]

fact

[shy sinew]

true I have straight up been farming theme skill spheres this rally because I don’t use enough feathers to justify farming them

[bitter gate]

will lyra get her 14th solo tmr?

Stay tuned I guess

[shy sinew]

tru field EXR

surely I’ll get mine to 3/5 with relatively little hassle

[heavy sinew]

I believe in lyra

[bright brook]

DC Gladion is now better than SS Gladion

[stuck mantle]

Loo like sliver and sneasel🤣🤣

Just f2p version

[lost juniper]

Probably. Either Adam or Drift will get it likely. Or Rafa

[true tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/undertaker-wwe-gif-25427770

someone waking up SS Lyra from her slumber

for the Tornadus solo...

[heavy sinew]

Might candy my Lyra to 3/5 to attempt it

But I don't have good flying gear

[dawn plume]

that +60 hp and +20 both defenses be hitting...

[true tartan]

yeah, you'll need anti-flying..

[true tartan]

the biggest advantage is saving GTerrains, from what I remember

[lost juniper]

And 1/5 EX R solo on Moltres too

[true tartan]

yup

that could be achievable

[bitter gate]

well, you don't "save" it

[stuck mantle]

Im ready

[bitter gate]

so much as get a decent period of time without needing to fish MPR

[stuck mantle]

Have cake skill gears🥰

[bitter gate]

and in the case of Tornadus is probably still required

[stuck mantle]

I was wait for it from months

[bitter gate]

because the last bar is the pain in the ass

[stuck mantle]

If you have terrain and heal is ok

Just need 2 energy for all

Wat help clear

[bitter gate]

ill mostly be doing bulu on jasmine but I have some stuff going on tmr

so chances are someone else like ruri does it first

lol

[shy sinew]

idk why I thought her missing one was Moltres… she has sure flinches

Tornadus being harder makes a lot of sense for her kit

[bitter gate]

like, she gets to save for the first two bars

[stuck mantle]

Who miss moltres ?

[bitter gate]

but she doesn't struggle with that bar specifically anyway

[stuck mantle]

Lyra did it long ago

[bitter gate]

it's the third bar that she eventually folds to