Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)

[bright brook]

Oh wait my b ray knew about it and brought a female team to the finals and won

Was ray who destroyed it

[rocky oasis]

yep

[bright brook]

My close friend actually made top 50 in 2020 NA players cup in 2020 with rivalry haxorus due to the main meta pokemons at the time being either 7/8 male or 100% male

Rhyperior arcanine staters like rillaboom

I'd be funny if they made a rivalry like ability in masters bc genders are really just for show here.

[inner turret]

lmao

[rocky oasis]

honestly ive never gotten far in vgc

[lost juniper]

Well I never did VGC so what should I know

[rocky oasis]

i sometimes go on the ladder for fun

[inner turret]

I can't imagine breeding for correct IV, nature and also gender breeding is already pain, you add on top of all of it the random gender

[rocky oasis]

honestly most players just hack theirs in

[inner turret]

back in gen 5 idk

[lost juniper]

God bless Pkhex

[bright brook]

Yea VGC players dont breed lol

[bright brook]

Especially in gen 5

[rocky oasis]

even back in gen 5 i was duping mons

[inner turret]

lol ok

[bright brook]

Was the only way back then

Like its much better now but like are you gonna reset for a 15 atk IV 0 speed IV stakataka so beast boost boosts its attack?

[raven crane]

TPC expects you to, yes.

[inner turret]

15 def not atk

[rocky oasis]

even now its easier to hack in a min atk / speed cress

[inner turret]

enamorus is the worst tho, literally have to speedrun the whole game for 1 reset

[bright brook]

In a sense they made us do this

[raven crane]

Perfect Enamorus is a trophy.

[bright brook]

Otherwise they would have introduced an item that reduces IV

[inner turret]

they should just make an in game showdown

[bright brook]

Speaking of showdown masters really need a showdown as well

Been having so many solo ideas but lacking the units or movelevel to do so

[raven crane]

That would defeat the point of most of the game.

[heavy sinew]

Is that not just pvp

[raven crane]

Majority of players only care to mess around with new pairs as is, so giving them that freedom would make so many fewer people summon, Lel.

[bright brook]

At least from a LG/LA soloer/streaker standpoint

[raven crane]

Yeah, from that viewpoint, for sure.

[bright brook]

That's why i have the next best thing

Friends whose phone i could borrow

With units i dont have

[lost juniper]

That's how you got 5/5?

On the DC units?

[raven crane]

I’ve always wished for them to do more stuff with like what they did with SS Leon where you can test units in a stage. Akin to Hoyo games.

[bright brook]

Yea

Was obvious it wasn't my account

[lost juniper]

Makes sense. I was really wondering why would you do it on the main account

I may do the same with SS Lyra to get 1/5 EX R solo on Moltres

[bright brook]

Okay good luck

Jeez

That solo is painful even with 3/5 EX

[lost juniper]

I doubt it'll be much worse than the Cobalion solo I did back then

[bright brook]

But yea field does give you 2 free grassy terrain so

Just lacking in sync damage

[lost juniper]

And extended one at that. More opportunities to damage and get speed buffs

[bright brook]

I really thought you never candied your ss lyra

[lost juniper]

I didn't. I got her on a yolo daily

When she first reran

Never really thought to candy her

[bright brook]

lol

[vital ibex]

i don't know why they're still delaying it

they should've dropped it for all the dymamax-move mons when leon got his

[kind imp]

Speaking of showdown, the TCG has an official simulator and it sucked last time I checked

[lost juniper]

Right? Sceptile might be more insulting though

Got a mega but nothing else

[vital ibex]

at least his nuke hits harder

yeah… he deserved leaf blade

[kind imp]

It has like half the features the older one had

[lost juniper]

Leaf Blade is his signature move

[vital ibex]

was

[lost juniper]

Yeah. At least his sync move has it

[vital ibex]

true

[kind imp]

So there's like 4 (?) alternative simulators

[vital ibex]

i think the whole reason they're delaying all the dynamax forms for raihan nessa gloria etc is because they don't know how to put gmax depletion into the game

even tho realistically it'd never be used over steelspike or rockfall

[lost juniper]

Remind me what g max depletion does?

[raven crane]

Yeah but he will get his Grid Expansion sometime.

[vital ibex]

dragon type, takes off -2 pp of target's last move

[lost juniper]

Oh haha yeah that'll be difficult

[vital ibex]

maybe it could just fully deplete the opponent's move gauge but we dont even get to see that visually ourselves so whats the point

[pliant glen]

There is a status effect for gauge slow down

[vital ibex]

ooh true

[inner turret]

dragon type, takes off 2 uses of the target's moves with limited uses

[vital ibex]

we havent seen that since vh korrina in ex plaza tho

[pliant glen]

Only used for one Co-op battle but is exists

[inner turret]

wait

status effect or field effect ?

[pliant glen]

Same with weather changing blocking

[vital ibex]

just opposite of move gauge accel

[pliant glen]

Field

It's a field effect

[inner turret]

so it shuts down terrakion

[raven crane]

Move Gauge Brakes.

Knew that’s where that was going.

[heavy sinew]

remove buffed stats

[pliant glen]

She applies it to your side

[inner turret]

that's the unity gauge tho

[vital ibex]

using rose on a stage with gauge slowdown

[inner turret]

not the move gauge

it's not a reverse mga

[vital ibex]

ohh

on that topic, why is power chain still a learnable lucky skill

i really wish they'd repurpose it

[inner turret]

it theory it still shuts down terrakion lol, but like
that's about it

[raven crane]

And Darach.

[tender horizon]

Isnt it Klara release today

[inner turret]

and leon

[tender horizon]

Or tmr

[inner turret]

tomorrow

[raven crane]

This reset, yes.

[tender horizon]

Klara solo whenn

DRIVING YOU KLARAZY

[bright brook]

Klara probably wont get a lot

[pliant glen]

This would shut down Terrakion I think

[raven crane]

It is a Field Effect.

So, it should.

[inner turret]

I made a tabitha/magcargo concept with weather lock one day lol

[raven crane]

Despite it would make him worse, it’d make more sense on Anniversary Steven then Weather Wipe.

[lost juniper]

Why would Tabitha have weather lock of Maxie sets sun?

[bright brook]

2025 meta being unity bonus field setter

[lost juniper]

Should he aid him like Courtney?

[inner turret]

lock the sun

[pliant glen]

9v1 Gigantamax Raids

[lost juniper]

Moltres LA

[raven crane]

So, the thing Primal Groudon should get.

[pliant glen]

Make the game UNPLAYABLE on older devices

[vital ibex]

i still have trauma from raid dens in sword and shield

martin's solrock my beloathed

[inner turret]

I really want a raid game mode

[lost juniper]

YES

[inner turret]

with clans or smth

[raven crane]

SAME.

I will rob you all blind.

[inner turret]

nah not pvp lmao

[lost juniper]

PvP sucks

[raven crane]

Yes PVP, steal from your “friends.”

[lost juniper]

No matter how you do it

[inner turret]

pvp is the death of the game

[lost juniper]

Fuck no. PvP will kill the game

[raven crane]

Good, already getting there.

[vital ibex]

high score, damage challenge and legendary gauntlet are more than enough to reconcile for no pvp

[raven crane]

[bright brook]

We already have PVP in leaderboard

[vital ibex]

and you're still technically fighting other ppl, just for ranks

[inner turret]

it's not direct pvp

remove the leaderboard it's the same event lol

[pliant glen]

There's a reason High Score Sucks

[lost juniper]

They don't lock rewards behind ranks

only titles

[pliant glen]

Titles are just bragging rights

[vital ibex]

if you think abt it the titles are a reward

[bright brook]

Which is also a big deal

[vital ibex]

just a cosmetic above all else

[pliant glen]

Got me to use a lot of resources in May

[lost juniper]

Yeah but your units aren't stronger because of a title

[pliant glen]

Status can be everything

[bright brook]

I like titles more than my gems. That's why i fucking spinned a unit until my fingers shattered for that one title...

[raven crane]

But yeah I thought about maybe repurposing the GO raid system in a Masters format. Maybe a month long raid of a Legendary Arena with a few thousand health bars and limited attempts each day or so.

[pliant glen]

Can affect your mentality and such

[lost juniper]

So it doesn't give you a direct advantage

[lost juniper]

Only if you treat it this way

[vital ibex]

inb4 2 allied ss hau's and one ash

[lost juniper]

I couldn't care lees about these

[raven crane]

Okay philosophers.

[raven crane]

Okay buddy.

[vital ibex]

[bright brook]

im still tolerating LG leaderboard bc at least we could compete with the whales with our 1/5 units

[raven crane]

I didn’t mean co-op anyway, just a group effort.

Co-op stays dead!

[lost juniper]

Given how terrible co op is, I don't see pvp happening

[raven crane]

Obviously.

PvP will never happen in a traditional format at the very least.

[kind imp]

April fools metronome pvp battles event

[inner turret]

Once played another game (don't ask the game i don't fucking know) where raids were just a boss with giga HP and everyone can take it on one player after another and the damage is cumulative
Like I do 10%, then when the next player goes to fight it it's left at 90% etc

[raven crane]

Yeah.

That’s what I mean.

Just on a massive scale.

Since Arenas are piss easy and there’s thousands of players.

It would need a balance though because you could clear hundreds of health bars single handedly with some shit like evasion buffs and recuperation.

[bright brook]

Could be a time constraint

And/or not allowing peeps to reset

[raven crane]

Yeh.

[worthy horizon]

gg grats

i had no plan for how 3/5 could manage so i was slightly concerned i was talking out of my ass hehe

[inner turret]

I'm actually surprised you got to bar 3 half at 2/5

[worthy horizon]

larry's a beast

[inner turret]

frfr

[scenic bolt]

PvP wouldn’t kill the game but it would be a colossal waste of time

See dragalia lost

PvP didn’t kill it but ain’t no one playing the gamemode

[inner turret]

If I had 1 more gauge here I would've done it

kill bar 2, b move into sync

just checked, i have time to queue the sync after the b move

[worthy horizon]

oo

now that one i actually didn't expect at all

[inner turret]

literal 1% clear tho lmao

with +4e i can get mgr9 which would be enough

[scenic bolt]

Gawd

It’s so chunky

The chonkiest Mon

[inner turret]

yknow what i'll just spare myself the pain of mgr rng and +4E him

or will I, I wanna keep the min investment

[scenic bolt]

Or will I

I want to suffer

Mael probably

[inner turret]

maaan it's a literal 1% clear damage rolls my beloved

maybe i just try to get better gears

[bright brook]

Tbf tho even at 5/5 EX it's a really difficult solo

[inner turret]

skill issue

really if I survive that last brutal swing I win

[bright brook]

Yours is 3/5 EX or EXR?

[inner turret]

ex r

[bright brook]

Okay then it makes more sense.

You can just nuke bar 3

The 5/5 EX clear requires dps_ing bar 3

[inner turret]

i need 2 tm mpr, all 3 syncs to crit and enough gauge with mgr3, surely i can make it happen in a short time

and no nat crit eitheerrr

wondering if grass guard or healthy healing is better

By how much does damage guard reduce damage already

2 energy ball, sure crit seed bomb, energy ball, seed bomb
Grad heal heals for 69 (nice), so 552 hp. If grass guard can reduce damage enough it's better but i don't think so

[pearl beacon]

30%

[worthy horizon]

yea type guard should be 30% reduction and gradual healing results in a max of +50% health if it's 6.25% per

bc it's 8 actions

[inner turret]

yeah grad heal's way better

grass guard saves about 300 HP

welp, gonna try again then

EASYYYY

[heavy sinew]

W

[inner turret]

there's a world where he gets tornadus

but i think that's it

[sturdy steeple]

Time to fish for para procs

[inner turret]

oop

https://youtu.be/AV6t9VOjZjw

[pearl beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/gurren-lagann-giga-drill-break-fight-anime-gif-17170852

[sturdy steeple]

Tengan Toppa Larry Lagann

[heavy sinew]

Peak

[lost juniper]

Now Cobalion

[inner turret]

actually impossible

[kind imp]

Full para simulator

[lost juniper]

Paralysis procs and a dream

[inner turret]

Ngl it was funny

ok i made it to bar 3 somehow but heat wave is a death sentence

i need a full para on toxic and heat wave

[scenic bolt]

Damn that’s cool

Beeeg dodoonsparce

[inner turret]

Looooool

[worthy horizon]

niceeeee

[scenic bolt]

That was fast

[inner turret]

I got very lucky, it shouldn't have been that fast

Full para on both sure crit brutal swing and sure crit heat wave

[worthy horizon]

the god run

[lost juniper]

Let's go!!!!

[inner turret]

Look at this

[pearl beacon]

So +3 solos for larry?

~~ make it 4 ~~

[inner turret]

for < 5/5 larry yes

[pearl beacon]

Ye

[inner turret]

tho this one is barely replicable

[inner turret]

https://youtu.be/hP_aWct9pws

[heavy sinew]

Larrygod

[inner turret]

I ALMOST GOT THE COBALION SOLO FIRST TRY

WHAT THE FUCK

I was just trying for the meme

[lost juniper]

Well now you know it's possible

[worthy horizon]

"for the meme" is exactly where it all starts xd

especially for offensive units

[heavy sinew]

Just get 2 paras

[sturdy steeple]

Shrimple as that

[inner turret]

Just get 1 para*

I got it not the way I expected to

I figured you can just rush damage on bar 2, with good damage rolls you can avoid close combat altogether
Then you just para sacred sword and you win

But the other wincon is get low rolls, para close combat itself and win before sacred sword happens

I'm only this low on health because i got crit by stone edge and didn't para a single move except close combat lmao, i should be way higher than that

[worthy horizon]

half his solos can be done without recup now

[inner turret]

This one is actually fairly easy

• 2 tm mpr
• don't get poisoned
• para either close combat or sacred sword if you skip close combat

that's it

I got hit by literally every move except close combat

[raven crane]

What's Cobalions chance to get paralyzed?

[inner turret]

if you're lucky you can get to bar 3 with lessen para 3 i believe

so that's uuh... 17.5% to para I believe ?

25% * 0.7 ?

[raven crane]

Good enough.

[inner turret]

I'm glad this attempt failed btw, bcs this strat is so bad and I don't want people to try and replicate it

[pearl beacon]

4 lowered in one day

[inner turret]

All it took was invert saying "hey look how close I can get on Uxie with 2/5 EX R"

lmao

[shy sinew]

man meanwhile I'm just now uploading my LG15 clears (nowadays I do separate videos for each clear and put them in a playlist to easily isolate specific clears, unfortunately this means uploading 140 separate videos)

[inner turret]

https://youtu.be/9QtviIMQZEs

I believe Entei is theoretically possible, but fuck that lmao, and Regirock too but even worse
Azelf, Latias and Raikou are straight up impossible I think

[true tartan]

went from all 5/5 but 1... to but 5

[inner turret]

I'll try entei "for the meme"

if it seems feasible i'll give it a real shot, but prob tomorrow rn it's 2am lol

[raven crane]

Maybe sleeping is a wise idea.

[worthy horizon]

support pory could enable raikou/latias, azelf would demand a more solid tank (or a flinch/sleeper)

[true tartan]

as for it is now, Larry has the most solos for all Sprints

[inner turret]

nah screw entei, pretty much impossible unless you can many para procs

why did you not put greta's ex role ?

[true tartan]

not yet

until it is revealed

Klara's was shown in the preview video from today... they didn't show the EX Roles in the event reveal

[inner turret]

greta was shown in the preview ?

[true tartan]

yeah? they showed all 3 units...

announcing Klara was poison tech, Avery being psychic field and Greta being grass sprint

all capable of max moves

[inner turret]

oh ok, didn't watch it

[heavy sinew]

Holy that cc para

[inner turret]

mandatory lol

thankfully it's the only mandatory para

[dawn plume]

why greta no ex role

[heavy sinew]

Cause she's MID

[worthy horizon]

bc waiting on official reveal

[dawn plume]

dena releases worst pre anni bait asked to leave gacha circle

[shy sinew]

is it bad that my first thought reading that was to ask what effects gacha circle gave

[dawn plume]

the more gems you have the greater the damage increase/reduction

[heavy sinew]

3k gems and a dream to get klara this reset

[true tartan]

wonder how many solos can she do

she has sync regen at 2, a bit of healing from the B Move, can shred defenses too

1/5 she may have a chance vs Latios by lowering its stats lol

[shy sinew]

cue me skipping the rest of this month so I have a chance to get 3/5 Lyra and the inevitable Galar NC reruns next month (I would be shocked if this doesn't happen)

[dawn plume]

i expected galar trio reruns before anni but it seems like they are rerunning johtrio first

[shy sinew]

they could always run it outside of the poma day banner which is what I'm expecting

[bright brook]

They did rerun all 3 of the johtonian MFs before anni 4 so

Very likely they'll do it again, but with the galarian birds

[dawn plume]

yeah but rerunning all 3 galars AND ss kris seems evil...

unless they just delay ss kris

which would also be odd

counterpoint: dena is evil

[river cliff]

Or they pull a fast one and give us anni Steven alongside the introduction of 4 and 5/5 tiles for master fairs

[heavy sinew]

Or bring all of them together

3 galars, SS Kris, Anni Steven, AND the new mfs

Dena will surely love that

[dawn plume]

and 3 more at anni

and 25k gems TOPS

[heavy sinew]

Nah

20k

damn I forgot about refer a pal again

well too late

[river cliff]

Steven's always bait, so checks out

[bright brook]

Bring ash

[tender horizon]

No Klarazy solos

[true tartan]

Bulu already done

[bright brook]

https://youtu.be/0YfdQMlJ_34?si=VnxR_lE-9SOKY4aq

Latios done too

[bitter gate]

Im surprised Larry can't clear Registeel

what's stopping him from doing it

Also

wat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZgTFqqHqWU

may solo but MPR2 prop fishing

kek

[loud shell]

why does lodge kabu feel like making me use 100 cookies for vigilance ...

[worthy horizon]

eh if you learn to spend time auto farming it should become easy to not run out of non-deluxes even with atrocious luck like tnat

but uh i haven't been the best at providing resources for it

basically only flare making significant contributions lol

for auto farming

[karmic willow]

typical

[heavy sinew]

Got Klara first multi

Sync Regen at 2/5???

Instant candy

[tender horizon]

Confusion roll

[heavy sinew]

She probably won't get any other solos aside from latios, very slow moves

B move kinda silly tho

[bitter gate]

She did bulu also but that's it

But pretty cheap also

Emma is just better for LG

[heavy sinew]

Yea saw bulu but forgot to mention it

[bitter gate]

Idt Klara is that good either

[heavy sinew]

Sadly

[loud shell]

I mean I still have 2k of each non deluxe gold cookie. Still annoying

[pearl beacon]

Aww look at her go

[raven crane]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-pokemon-sword-shield-video-game-gif-14293986

[chrome halo]

[stuck mantle]

So how many solos klara have 2?

[bitter gate]

Just 2

[dawn plume]

how much hp does her buddy move heal

when physical

[bitter gate]

12.5%

Essentially she has about 18% every other turn with sync regen

[sturdy steeple]

solo doc updated

klara also got uxie

[heavy sinew]

W Klara

[full pond]

Life on the Edge

waiting for the B move unlock was so anxiety inducing

[dawn plume]

latios, bulu, uxie is a random combo

you'd expect the first two

[stuck mantle]

Luri did klara solo:) lol she alive😉 didnt saw hear long ago

[dawn plume]

her b move takes so long to activate wtf

what a weird unit

i will be passing

[stuck mantle]

Yeap from poison units she is decent

We have alot in game wat are realy broken

[dawn plume]

poison tech pokefair with dynamax

we now have 3

[stuck mantle]

All 3 new pokefair are weird look nice but hard use them

[dawn plume]

i think oleana has better utility and roxie has better damage too so klara's real claim to fame is her mixed phys/spec damage

[stuck mantle]

Strange kits and moves

[rocky oasis]

maybe we'll finally get a proper grass / poison / ice weak LG

bc the one we have barely count

[dawn plume]

can avery get terrakion? his kit looks like it'd work well

[stuck mantle]

Would be nice if we get new boss for legendary arena

Avery have flinch eva or heal?

[dawn plume]

he has 2 different healing tiles

and can also apply no stat increase

so terrakion cant buff itself

but he can't get rid of the initial +2 atk...

so that might be an issue

[stuck mantle]

Hmm hard tell in 2 days we now wat he can do it

[dawn plume]

oh his tm is gradual healing too

wtf he has hella healing

[stuck mantle]

Then maybe depend how mutch damage he would deal

[dawn plume]

actually looking at his kit more i think he for sure gets terrakion

i didnt realize how much healing he has

oh and i somehow missed this tile lol nvm yeah terrakion is free

[stuck mantle]

Then yes

And he got also free move

So no gauge issue

Lol first unit wat have this circle mp refresh

Wow

[chrome halo]

[true tartan]

Wallace had it...

[stuck mantle]

Hmm?

[true tartan]

he will have gauge issues... the move free is bound to refreshing fields

[stuck mantle]

Maybe didnt saw it in his grid

[true tartan]

if the move was 3 bars, it'd be way better

[stuck mantle]

Circle is also count for free move stdk?

[true tartan]

it counts

[stuck mantle]

And tell me stdk

Wat more % give for damage

1 singel rebuff

Or zone 3 target

Same move mean

Aoe

[true tartan]

wut?

[stuck mantle]

You have latios

And 2 sides

Latios have rebuff sides no

Or you have set zone

[true tartan]

Rebuffs... -1 is x1.3, -2 is x1.5, -3 is x1.6
WTZ is x1.5
AoE penalty... 3 targets is x0.5, 2 is x0.6666

you can read the damage formula document if you want more info about it

[dawn plume]

yea avery gets 5 free moves off his base kit (field ex, max mindstorm, b move setting hail, 2 circle uses)

he is hitting terrakion on type though and will easily beat the damage reduction

i think that should be enough

[stuck mantle]

Wtz give more then 1 rebuff

Like i was thinking

Thanks stdk

[true tartan]

-2 Rebuff is "best" in general, as going extra for -3 is "not rewarding"

rebuffs have diminished returns... only dena knows why lol

[stuck mantle]

Do we have unit wat can apply 3?

Acerola can but for hear self but for target 2 is maks or no?

[true tartan]

2 is enough

[dawn plume]

don't think there's any one unit who can apply -3 themselves no

larry can apply rebuff 3 times, but 2 for normal and 1 for the weakness type

so it won't ever be -3

[heavy sinew]

~~unless there's an opponent weak to normal

eos~~

[quaint tartan]

Unit no, teams yes for sure

[stuck mantle]

Teams yeap but i mean 1 unit

[lost juniper]

Champion Red if he was good

Nah I'm kidding but he would benefit so much from it

[stuck mantle]

Sst red miss rebuff from his b move🙂

[lost juniper]

As if he needs it

[stuck mantle]

I would take it🥰

[inner turret]

That hurts

[lost juniper]

Wow. That's just sad

[pearl beacon]

[raven crane]

A stiff breeze and Entei just turns to dust.

[worthy horizon]

still haven't found anything to make lodge kabu vs uxie even remotely consistent so i think i'll just not lol

just duo with a damage dealer

if he had tighten up instead of moral support he could get uxie entei and raikou

he still theoretically can but it's beyond my level of patience

(and auto is actually decent at handling entei)

didn't even get a run to survive the crit thunder

[true tartan]

rip...

[worthy horizon]

running vigilance and skipping hostile environment is an oddly viable option that can get pretty good health into bar 3 but from then you want really early 10% burns

on bar 1 you can spend a ton of time without burns and still be fine, just build sync buffs

hostile environment takes up a bunch of time when it procs when uxie is already burned and it does help to have uxie not burned bar 2 to reduce facade damage

i could still end up playing around with vigilance more lol

mg2 feels like a dead end atm

[kind imp]

2/5 EX stoic

5/5 should be possible with discombobulate, 2/5 prob too but it's hard

Bar 1.5 is don't get crit or double poison

[true tartan]

she has the tools

[tender horizon]

I need yall to pay attention

To the fact tht galarian slowbro is cute af

[dawn plume]

your server name… i hope it is real

[raven crane]

Oops, Arven in 160 days instead.

[bright brook]

they'll probably drop another blue/steven/cynthia alt in 16 days

[stuck mantle]

Blue is in mix so no chance.

[lost juniper]

If anything it'd be Lance/Steven/Cynthia

[stuck mantle]

So can be red cynthia

Stevens is in rerun banner

So also no chance for it

Or leaf maybe but hard tell since new mix is she if they put it befor

Lance can be also long ago no alt

[lost juniper]

I doubt they'll repeat the Kantrio as bait

[stuck mantle]

No galar trio

Will be as bait

Kanto on 6 or 7 ani

We have now 2 galar gym leaders so dena give signal 🙂 trio rerun as bait whit exrs

And on 5 ani we can get mf get 5/5 grids and prob unlock need this mysterious stones for it.

Like sync grids extra orbs dont give it cheap

[raven crane]

+ Volo

Let's hope.

[pearl beacon]

Masterfair Milo

[sturdy steeple]

Get ready for pokefair chuck and Wattson 😭

[chrome halo]

Old men will save us

[sturdy steeple]

They're only ruining us

[inner turret]

please spotlight

johto really needs a new spotlight

[chrome halo]

That is a weird way to spell Variety

[inner turret]

no way they make og gym leaders variety

[sturdy steeple]

Falkner moment

[raven crane]

Falkner carrying the team hard.

[inner turret]

i meant og as the first iteration of the character lol

[pearl beacon]

I tried to think of something by reading the DC schedule and thinking abt FoMO
At anniversary we'll have (1)Dragon, (3)Water, (1)Dark, (3)Electric, (1) Steel

Triple Water could be covered mix Leaf

[inner turret]

Arceus, Arceus, Arceus, Arceus, Arceus

[pearl beacon]

Aaand also that ig

[raven crane]

With Cynthia pwease.

Top Grossing, trust.

[blissful rose]

With how the story is progressing, I'm not surprised if we get multiple Arceus with the 3 champions.

[inner turret]

Nah

[raven crane]

Makes enough money to keep Pokemon Masters alive for 10000000 more years.

[heavy sinew]

variety*

[heavy sinew]

Nvm

[bright brook]

and then add him to lodge the month after

[sturdy steeple]

[inner turret]

where's my lodge larry smh

[quaint tartan]

They’ll release some new spotlight for sure as in every August next data

So that they won’t be added in the ticket pool refresh for anni

[inner turret]

If we get my spotlight chuck design I'm fine with it

[lost juniper]

I want striaton triplets here. They're literally there from 2 years ago

[inner turret]

Monkey

water fire grass pledge combo

[dawn plume]

dena doesnt know how to implement pledge moves so they make them buddy moves which makes them all limited cuz only limited pairs get buddy moves

variety banner

[inner turret]

we said that for zones then we got courtney with the ground zone sooo

[kind imp]

Would be cool to get rainbow, swamp and fire dmg field sea of fire

Mainly rainbow

[inner turret]

rainbow breaks the game lmao

suddenly all the 60% flincher become 80 or 90%

[dawn plume]

well it only took 8 months for zone on a gen pool unit

buddy moves have been around for 2 years

still none on a non limited

[rotund rain]

I honestly doubt B-Moves will be on a non-limited

but I do remember being surprised when SC and Variety Scout units got them

[dawn plume]

terrakion shaking in its boots with a near perfect counter to it coming next reset

too bad it wont be in gauntlet again anytime soon

[worthy horizon]

4/5 for attack debuffs though it looks like

[dawn plume]

yeah thats a bit annoying

esp when field candies are not plentiful

[heavy sinew]

200 gems and a skip for anni

[dawn plume]

i thank dena for this skip month

i do NOT thank elon musk for potentially putting our 3000 gems in jeopardy

[heavy sinew]

yarrdenia looked so good but unfortunately Dena decides to give me better luck on Klara than her

[stuck mantle]

And wat avery teleport some solos?😆

O luri alive she did terrakion

Was realy easy solo

https://twitter.com/luri_choucho/status/1812374858300629350?s=46&t=Tt7p_6vbET7a4zEsMl1xfA

瑠璃垣 (@Luri_Choucho) on X

セイボリー テラキオンVH単騎

5/5EX（パワー上限解放有り）

#LBテラキオン単騎

Twitter · Jul 14, 2024, 6:33 AM

This sure dont need 10 extra like she use

[bitter gate]

good old ruri

I wonder if he can do more than terrakion tho

[stuck mantle]

She did only this. So far. But kinda strange she have it 5/5 no exr:)

[bitter gate]

i don't think the tech is needed that much

but the issue with Avery is that he has to blitz

he has a very limited window to play with

kind of like Rose

[stuck mantle]

When avery sync no issue

Have alot time for free moves

[worthy horizon]

2/5 should get latios

i feel like anything else would want 4/5 minimum for attack debuffs

[bitter gate]

avery only has two rounds of pterrain

two rounds of hail

and has to MPR his extension

which is fine tbh, he has the best circle duration in the game i think

MPR2 + extension 5

wihch is rare

but he still prefers to blitz

[stuck mantle]

He is field so zone will last long

[bitter gate]

not that long

[stuck mantle]

Plus can get circle extention

[bitter gate]

it's a bit like Rose, like I said

he has to kill within the steel field duration

or it's GG

he has a lot more margin for error after its gone

[stuck mantle]

I now hehe

[bitter gate]

but still hurts him quite a bit

but a lot of the healing/gauge comes from having any field effect up

[stuck mantle]

Rose is good when have free move

After free move end rose is cooked

Same avery

4 gauge no speed its game end

[bitter gate]

Avery isn't instantly dead when he runs out of stuff, but his sustain and gauge just disappears

lol

[stuck mantle]

He is more bulky then rose

Can take some hits

[bitter gate]

yeah, he can still survive some shit

he has no flinch like Rose tho

which also buys turns

[stuck mantle]

But its like 2/3 moves

Yeap flinch make it skip

Wat for dc 3/3 rose maybe a play

Perma flinch🤣

[bitter gate]

I think he can do Bulu/Raikou/Latios after this but idt he can do anything else

[stuck mantle]

Latias?

[worthy horizon]

yeah entei and latias i wouldn't rule out

impervious and a bunch of debuffs

[stuck mantle]

We need wait luri cook or snow got him too

But terra was realy easy solo

[true tartan]

he has potential, the debuffs are quite good

[bitter gate]

i think he gets overwhelmed by latias

could be wrong tho

[worthy horizon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-rjztOkFFQ

[tender horizon]

Why the first Avery solo isnt Latios

[true tartan]

people skip Latios as it is easy and almost granted

[stuck mantle]

Too hard🤣

Luri got latias

[bitter gate]

Mfw

"nah, Avery has issues, he isn't a solo machine"

ruri casually does entei, latias and Raikou already

5/5 exr10 sure

But still

[stuck mantle]

She did only terra and latias

Dont see others

A she post them on yt

Lol some on twitter some yt

Why mix it

So tapu and latios is 6 will be

[tender crater]

Extension 3

[bitter gate]

oops

[lost juniper]

She got Azelf too

[bitter gate]

Tf?

Jesus

Really underestimated the guy lol

[lost juniper]

Need max invesment for it though

[bitter gate]

Yeah

I doubted he could even at full capacity

But well, make me an idiot then

[inner turret]

wouldn't it be possible at 4/5 ? 5/5 tiles don't seem important

or it's for +10E

[bitter gate]

+10E

[inner turret]

fair then

[stuck mantle]

So 7 he did

Not bad

[bitter gate]

for a unit with only a 4 bar move to play with that's quite amazing tbh

[stuck mantle]

Free move its a key

No free move maybe latios would did

[bitter gate]

free move isn't that necessary

it's the fact that he has so many forms of accel

accel in terrain, accel in hail

and accel in circle also

most of ruri's clears needed FT

[stuck mantle]

She did use vigi too

Fast track when no free move need speed

[bitter gate]

she used vigi when its necessary, yes, but those clears were also faster

than her FT clears

[stuck mantle]

Yeap then no issue whit free move

When longer need use fast track for guage since dont base run on free move

[sturdy steeple]

SOLO DOC UPDATED so many runs today

both klara and avery currently have 7 solos lol

[scenic bolt]

Checks out

[lost juniper]

Fitting

[dawn plume]

oh damn they both got latias

i guess klara is just putting out crazy numbers

[heavy sinew]

Common Klara w

[sturdy steeple]

real

[quaint tartan]

Klara getting 7 solos is beyond expectations btw, I guess working on the Bmove healing makes the difference

[dawn plume]

it healing 1/8 is better than i expected

i expected 1/16

and then regen too

[bright brook]

greta probably get a decent amount as well

[river cliff]

She should be capable of enabling her own sleep chains, right?

[rocky oasis]

yes

[lost juniper]

Does she have any form of healing?

[river cliff]

Grassy terrain + verdant recovery

Hit and heal as well

[stuck mantle]

Klara 7 is surprise for me

Greta not sure since hear only move is bulet seed

[stuck mantle]

Sleep 2 gauge move singel target its not the best

[rocky oasis]

maybe drop cakewalk for tm mpr and endurance or smth

[stuck mantle]

Plus hear terrain end realy fast

This is like ramos 2 .0

[rocky oasis]

recharging strike ought to help w/ gauge

other than that idk

[stuck mantle]

Its for bulet seed only

[rocky oasis]

any sleepable stage should be possible

[stuck mantle]

You now how sleep work

[rocky oasis]

Except for maybe regi

[stuck mantle]

On 3 target will be hard do it

Since terrain will end

[rocky oasis]

she can technically raise her speed and evasion but i think we'll still be using FT on her

[stuck mantle]

Random

If sleep have corrles bp barry free move

This would be super thing

You cant spam it

[rocky oasis]

shes like a better ramos

[stuck mantle]

Speed she dont need

B move raise it

Yes i told ramos 2.0

[rocky oasis]

give us ramos ex damnit

[stuck mantle]

But sprint field its not best combo got greta

Field sup would be it

[rocky oasis]

that terrakion clear w/ ramos nuker was awful

[stuck mantle]

Alot units need ex

I dont get why Sawyer and Rachel dont have it

They pasio boss lear peopel

[sturdy steeple]

I've been saying klara is good for lg, please let's avoid jumping to conclusions on whether a unit is good or bad or not just from the solos that do or do not come out within hours of their launch

[stuck mantle]

Lg is not only solos but duos

Or like last one was alot trios

[sturdy steeple]

Exactly

[vital ibex]

mfw all of avery's solos are 5/5 exr 10e

https://tenor.com/view/meme-discord-gif-23855064

[stuck mantle]

Similar too poppys solo need same

[quaint tartan]

I think it’s bc there’s only one person committed to do the solos and has that investment

[vital ibex]

lol yea

[stuck mantle]

Snow did poppy only nobody lower it

So hard tell some need this 10 e for it

Wat is at 5/5 only

[rocky oasis]

most of us are skipping these units anyways

but no $$$ for whaling

[stuck mantle]

Im not skipp just 1 copy😆

Then when next mix drop i may get some copy not gold power up only

[dawn plume]

avery solos can be lowered

[stuck mantle]

Terrakion for sure

[dawn plume]

i guess luri was just a big avery fan and max invested

yeah the terrakion clear was like overkill lol

never even went below half hp

[stuck mantle]

Maybe:) she didnt did any new units solo for long time

So prob why she have alot sync orbs

[true tartan]

7 each lol

fun things to notice: Avery took Azelf, Klara too Uxie

would've been funnier if Klara got Cobalion instead of Registeel for a better "mirror"(?)

[heavy sinew]

I just think they're neat

[sturdy steeple]

He's based

[true tartan]

so now, Greta has to get more than 7

[stuck mantle]

You think she can?

[rocky oasis]

def possible

azelf, latios, entei, raikou, bulu, terrakion are a given. registeel should be possible and idk about cobalion

maybe even cress if youre lucky w/ debuffs

[sturdy steeple]

Omni debuffing sleeper, remind you of anyone?

[rocky oasis]

latias is gonna be hard but should be possible in theory

[lost juniper]

Latias gonna be hell most likely

Any sleeper not named SS Cyrus gonna have a bad time with her

[raven crane]

Greta got Unfortunate Strike, that's something.

[karmic willow]

ss cyrus my beloved

[sturdy steeple]

Greta can get syncs pretty quickly at the start so killing sides won't be trouble for her

She's chillin vs latias

[lost juniper]

Can she one shot the sides? Gonna be hard to sleep chain

[dawn plume]

greta could be 12/14 but the rng will probably be a pain

[lost juniper]

Uxie would be extremely tough for her if possible

Cyrus has zone going for him

Regirock too since Bar 1 is super effective meaning harder to farm syncs

[sturdy steeple]

If not one shot, she'd do a ton with an innate multi + field sync

[keen flint]

i think she has enough healing and self stat buffs + debuffs to get everything but moltres and torn

[sturdy steeple]

She's also a sprint + the field heals her for a second sync on the other side quickly

[keen flint]

with EX role and maxed out she has 250 in each defense too so it isn't like she's dropping from stray hits

[scenic bolt]

Accuracy down

[lost juniper]

Right, then after that she'll be good

[raven crane]

Me when fumbling to queue up moves:

[lost juniper]

Her gauge should be really good too

Though how much invesment does she need to work?

[vital ibex]

5/5 for guaranteed triple duh

[pearl beacon]

Prestige ramos

[worthy horizon]

she gets +3 speed on b move and gets 2 uses of it

don't think ft is going to be required

then she gets recharging strike

besides no quarter, at 5/5 idk what more you'd be asking for to reach 12/14

she has a lot

though i haven't checked actual grid setups yet

maybe her damage output might lack to get things done while grassy terrain is up

bc regirock and uxie have the sleep limits

and registeel bar 3 if that can't be nuked through

and cobalion

[stuck mantle]

Reggi its out off option

And regirock too

You dont get bar 3 terrain so nuke no chance

[lost juniper]

She sets terrain with max move

[stuck mantle]

Cress if skip half bar 1 maybe have shot

[lost juniper]

Why can't she save it to Bar 3

[stuck mantle]

Still dont beat it

Regirock will have crit shield bar 2

Since cant put him sleep then

Cyrus have power play and zone for nuke it

[worthy horizon]

sync + max move should clear bar 2?

can't use cakewalk though

[stuck mantle]

Reggi no chance

Cress yes if skipp half bar 1 para and eva up then is chance. But need perfect sleep chain one mistake game over

[worthy horizon]

she can run natural remedy and antitoxin

3/5 could do it

2/5 wouldn't be overly surprising even

she has room for failure

[true tartan]

they're playing catch or something lol

Klara still can do Cobalion tho

[rocky oasis]

current progress exing things for next LG

got a TL kabu and DC hugh too but those are low priority atm

gonna have soph complete by next datamine

[stuck mantle]

Lol 8 / 8

Not bad

[bitter gate]

is that all you have left unEXed?

that's not a lot at all, damn

I still hae 63 units un EXed

and I already have 219 lol

[rocky oasis]

i have these guys + a lodge kabu im waiting on PUs for

[lost juniper]

Who said tech EX R on a support can't be good?

Azelf solo really isn't that bad

Regirock might be doable if you get zero flinches in Bars 1 and 2, and get as little defense debuffs as possible

[stuck mantle]

Is this 1/5 exr

[lost juniper]

Yes

[stuck mantle]

Nice

[lost juniper]

The only things that can mess the run are burns and crit thunders

Thankfully Azelf missed both crits

She is so stupidly op I love her

[stuck mantle]

Yep she is nice

[lost juniper]

If Regirock is doable then EX R is pretty much mandatory

Cause you need to blitz Bar 1 to get as little speed reduction as possible

[stuck mantle]

Hope you get reggi

[lost juniper]

[kind imp]

[lost juniper]

Avery got Uxie now

So Klara better catch up

https://youtu.be/kEaPPpIx-Ws?si=PvAUac1voKZpvGIW

[kind imp]

https://youtu.be/GnJmVhRlEJE

[chrome halo]

just saw 1/5 Klara solo on Bulu

girl is really competitive

[stuck mantle]

Nice

[true tartan]

there it is, the mirror of Avery vs Terrakion while Klara vs Cobalion

[bitter gate]

now watch Klara successfully clear Regirock fsr

[true tartan]

she could

with...

lots of luck

🤔

the problem is that Regirock lowers her speed

[bitter gate]

also, I wonder how Greta performs tmr

I think she'll have an easier time getting to her 9s

but it also depends if we'll get someone who invests in her

[true tartan]

you can see how she suffers from Gauge vs Cobalion, and yet... she won...

[bitter gate]

like ruri did with avery

I do think she'll get at least 10

but will cap at 12

outside of torn and moltres, she can probably do everything else? and cress perhaps

[dawn plume]

LMAO

this is very in character

[true tartan]

is fun because the released videos are apart by...

20 minutes?

Avery was at 15:36, Klara was at 15:58

(UTC 0)

[bitter gate]

well, Klara still wins because she has more clears that don't need higher investment... for now at least

I do think avery without the full expansion is tougher to use

[true tartan]

look how Bianca started with a row full of reds

just a matter of time that people get the unit and start lowering

[kind imp]

She has debuff for cress and terrak
Mixed damage also for cress and torn
And max move for terrak and torn

Maybe she gets one of them too

[true tartan]

her B Move also doesn't miss

[tender crater]

definitely not torn cause flying weak

[kind imp]

Klara not greta

[true tartan]

nolte meant Klara lol

[tender crater]

Too bad I can't read

[true tartan]

+reading

[worn skiff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855438548684374045/1069103333429747752/image-2.png

[bitter gate]

egg on my face if Greta ends up with less solos than those two

[dawn plume]

avery has so much healing lmao

[bitter gate]

but I do think they'll at least be equal

[true tartan]

is not hard to see Greta getting many solos haha

[bitter gate]

like I said, minimum ten

i mostly see her failing moltres and torn, as well as Cress

[true tartan]

just by looking the kit, you know she's a LA unit

[bitter gate]

the others she probably is fairly comfortable, but she needs full expansion also

[true tartan]

for Uxie and Coba I suppose

and well, looking how well your gauge goes...

[bitter gate]

she's really fast so not really worried

about gauge

its mostly needing unfortunate strike for

the majority of the harder solos

[true tartan]

spamming moves for perma lock is not easy

if she could spam spore like Cyrus, is a matter of syncing

[bitter gate]

she has margin for error with debuffs, healing and the works

she's not as good as cyrus in the braindead sleep thing

[true tartan]

I meant for the gauge lol

[bitter gate]

but also has more ways to keep herself alive

if she wants to

oh yeah, definitely

cyrus has the passive to guarantee risk free

she has to space between spore and seeds

but she can afford to

[true tartan]

Greta also has that one

[bitter gate]

if only she had charging infliction

lel

[true tartan]

Use Status P-Move: Stat 9 enables her to spam spore in ST

[bitter gate]

yeah she can buff defenses and evasion also

[true tartan]

she can buff all stats, yeah

[bitter gate]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=0&v1=019900028600&s1=5&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=0&t1=44444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFBwgODxASExcZGg&v2=0

most of her grids will look like this

she can slot in verdant recovery

over hit and heal

[true tartan]

there, no extra energy

if 5/5

from what we've seen, 5/5 tend to go either full 10 or 0 lol

she can do decently with 2/5 tbh

[stuck mantle]

Interesting how many greta can get

Will watch show tommorow

[pearl beacon]

I think it's mostly abt priority or profitability
20 stats and 50% on sync can help anything succeed if it's close to
I.mean look at aLillie/ Maxie

Also Lenora getting two extra clears

[lost juniper]

Elaine too needing tech exr for both Tornadus and Moltres

This one needs tech exr for stats

[pearl beacon]

I caked her for Rally
Not regretting, but I feel like I had to keep that for somethig else

We didn't knew abt DC so it's fine but probably would have caked scIrida

[lost juniper]

I like her in Rally too. Used her to counter Argenta because my area 10 was support sprint

None of them can debuff offenses aside from Rosa but I couldn't attack with her before 50%

[dawn plume]

caking elaine is

[lost juniper]

My Irida is 1/5 so it's not important for me

[pearl beacon]

Yup she's an all purpose unit, saved my ass in some tech field A10

[lost juniper]

Tech field is annoying

But I have caked SST Red so I'm gaming. Red tanks surprisingly well

[pearl beacon]

Yeah he's bulky af

[raven crane]

Heh, you think Elaine is questionable?

I caked Proton.

[lost juniper]

I mean considering half of his solos are caked it's not a terrible invesment

Flinch evasion healing goes brrrr

[raven crane]

Yeah I didn’t do it with the Gauntlet in mind.

[lost juniper]

Yeah I know, but he's not a bad invesment

[raven crane]

I wouldn’t say many are.

[kind imp]

I remember people caked Archie for hs

[lost juniper]

I did a questionable one when I caked SS Giovanni because I had strike support lucky stage, though I had my eyes on him since April

Today I mean

[raven crane]

Dabbo told me about that.

[raven crane]

Goofy fella.

[lost juniper]

He's strong but slow af

Good thing Plumeria exists

Like she's only there to carry him in gauntlet

[pearl beacon]

Oooooof
As much as I love him, It's a big no

But maybe whales have better access w premium cakes

[lost juniper]

Whales gonna whale

https://youtu.be/My0_hXY5iak

[rocky oasis]

honestly support caking anything is never a bad idea. the extra bulk and sync buff helps gioking a lot if you cant afford vigilance over FT on a duo

i used him w/ a eggmon vs regirock

then again mine is also 4/5

[lost juniper]

Mine is 5/5, but I had nowhere else to use Plumeria so she might as well go there

[dawn plume]

all my cake vouchers have gone to support sprint or field

i dont think ive given anything a strike or tech cake in a while

[true tartan]

I have 2 tech cakes and 1 strike

no idea when I'll use them lol

[rigid plover]

Are either of Klara/Avery worth summoning for when it comes to LG purposes? If so, which one is better? Or are both good

[kind imp]

Both good I think

#1012311116778586182 message

Avery has a double offense dropping tile at 4/5 and Klara has discombobulate at 5/5

They're still new so we don't know how necessary they're for solos

But they should still be good for duos

[worthy horizon]

yeah avery hasn't been proven to work at lower than max investment so klara would be safer for now

even if we know that avery can be lowered a lot in theory

if you had any pre-existing preference for avery though you could definitely find plenty of uses for him even if they're not solos

[lost juniper]

Just because he wasn't shown doesn't mean he can't. Considering Luri is literally the only one doing solos with him as of now it doesn't say much

[worthy horizon]

yeah it's not proven that he's bad either it's just that it's unproven either way for whatever reason that may be

so if you had to pick literally today klara would be better based on available info

and not because we definitively know klara is better

[rocky oasis]

theyre both skip units w/ anni coming

[worthy horizon]

fr

[shy sinew]

yeah I only pulled Avery for personal reasons and if I get Klara off a daily I wouldn't complain for sure

[inner turret]

Did a yolo on Klara bcs that's my favorite SwSh theme, didn't get her sadge

[gleaming cypress]

how many solos is greta getting

[worthy horizon]

8-12, we'll see how much anyone is willing to push cobalion/uxie/regirock/registeel which have the sleep limits

[inner turret]

Registeel is sleep chainable until bar 3 and you can just nuke bar 3

coba uxie and regirock are real troubles tho yeah

[worthy horizon]

yea

[lost juniper]

Can Greta buff herself? If she can Regirock and Uxie might still work

[inner turret]

she has fortuitous 9 on both spore basically

regardless of if it's successful or not

and +4 atk +3 on tm (and -1 smc but idk if it's that important for her)

[raven crane]

She can random buff while sleep spamming, and random debuff while seed spamming.

In a nutshell.

[kind imp]

Possibly

Means her tm won't fail if she's at max atk and crit

For hit and heal

[inner turret]

Ah true

[raven crane]

Yeh gradual heals on top of the easy Spore spam.

[inner turret]

You can't spam spore, you don't have the gauge for it I believe

[raven crane]

You can alternate Recharging Strike (if you can pick it up.)

I'm just kinda talkin', not quite my field but on paper it looks fine.

[inner turret]

yeah it becomes just regular sleep chain

[worthy horizon]

she doesn't seem overly disadvantaged to cyrus on her sleep move

it is mgr3 compared to mgr4 and lower speed at equal investment but at exr she has a higher speed stat than non-exr ss cyrus

and she can self buff to +6 spe quickly

no damage from spamming sleep though

[raven crane]

Correct me if wrong, but I feel sleep spam is mostly just useful early on for buffs and for healing.

Otherwise I feel alternating between Spore and Bullet Seed would be more effective, for solos anyway.

[worthy horizon]

dunno for certain how reliable it is when no one can test her yet

but whoever can will be able to figure out what's best

bullet seed's variable timing could be a concern even though it works fine for ramos