LG 16 prediction:
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Cresselia or Raikou
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Latias
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Moltres
#Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)
wicked tusk
median swan
bulu replaced by raikou feels way more likely since having cress with either moltres or latias in a single rotation seems like a nightmare lol
cursive briar
I doubt they'll include two battles with fluid fortification in the same lg
worthy horizon
only latias has fluid fortification
wicked tusk
bulu replaced by raikou feels way more likely since having cress with either mol...
they've been using bulu too much recently for it to rerun again
median swan
yeah if i had to bet it's gonna be raikou-latias-moltres
stuck mantle
Crees molters raikou:)
worthy horizon
moltres and latias are least recent but they have plenty of reason to not be running moltres imo
so that'd leave latias as extremely likely
median swan
latias-cress honestly seems harder than latias-moltres since the first two share counterplay
worthy horizon
yep
rocky oasis
damn i have the opposite ratio
im really really good at lg and mediocre at hse bc im super selective about rolling
FA4 on a crit eggmon?
and natural remedy too
median swan
we're so close to getting a synchro healing eggmon
rocky oasis
itd be fascinating
worthy horizon
tru
rocky oasis
itd be amazing for one of those team comps
where you have 1/5 strikers w/ zero sync multipliers
also... imagine resetting for 5 mprs on wally
idk if he's need evasion shenanigans w/ those debuffs but evasion is always interesting
worthy horizon
not sure if latios would pose a struggle even without that
and it'd be useless for bar 3 tornadus
don't think he should be grinding out any other solos
well cobalion
median swan
also... imagine resetting for 5 mprs on wally
highkey that was gonna be my play once i get him to 3/5 lmao
he will most likely need them for bulu and coba
median swan
it'll all be turn 1 so
rocky oasis
hugh probably
median swan
yeah hugh
chrome halo
Unova keeps getting good Flying types nowadays
median swan
hoenn got a mushroom this update too lol
worthy horizon
i think bulu could require some heavy mpr grinding for evasion buffs, cobalion might not
mainly the ss cynthia clear making me say that
median swan
if he can preserve lessen para 1 through bar skipping then yeah he probably only needs a few mprs
dunno how well he's gonna take those sacred swords in the end tho
mint osprey
I lost most of my LG cookies trying to get Sharp Entry 1 on OG Lana. Had to give up halfway 
Though I have to thank DeNA for most of the QoL, namely
- More than 1 LS per pair
- Percentage shown allowing easier prediction and gauging
worthy horizon
yeah watching my cookies get eaten away by sharp entry on lana was pretty tilting tbh lol
i've rolled plenty of other entry skills since but that still sticks out
big motivator in getting me to farm cookies xd
mossy pebble
FA4 on a crit eggmon?
I guess power creep is affecting eggmons too, the original batch mostly had supports with stuffs like regular x items and just the tm for team buffs, now we have zone setters, and some good strikers too like grookey, Gyarados, Raichu, Hitmonlee
However I fell almost all the eggmons lines have at least a decent unit
I think the weakest line is the seel one, since all the 3 are pretty bad
rocky oasis
egg venu is god awful to use
mossy pebble
Egg venue has sleep powder
rocky oasis
like that thing is a walking gauge hog
mossy pebble
Yes you probably want speed support
rocky oasis
no innate TM1 or regen
2 bar razor leaf w/o acc buffs
no MGR
i hate this thing so so much
mossy pebble
Support is a decent tank with giga drain if you can buff his stats
rocky oasis
even korrina runs into gauge issues if your run goes on for long enough
cough registeelcough
mossy pebble
I mean the worst eggmon line I think is the seel one
I guess the striker can somewhat work if you can buff it and fix blizzard accuracy
rocky oasis
theres the rapidash for competition
the random freeze has actually saved my ass a few times
chrome halo
there is Arcanine which is even worse
mossy pebble
Rapidash tech is fast and has 1 gauge spam.with 30% burn chance
median swan
supp seel may only give +2 sp def but it helps a LOT of solos lol
chrome halo
and we invented the term "dewgong fix" here
mossy pebble
supp seel may only give +2 sp def but it helps a LOT of solos lol
And has 2 gauge moves only
rocky oasis
doesnt matter in most duos
honestly rapidash burns will sometimes ruin my runs
if its a team relying on sleep or para
chrome halo
sup dewgong is far from the worst egg tier
mossy pebble
Yes you don't want to run stuffs with status chances in sleep teams
mossy pebble
sup dewgong is far from the worst egg tier
My point is that the best dewgong is probably the worst compared to the best of other lines
Even rapidash and Arcanine are useful for gauge (if you don't care about random burns)
What line is worse than dewgong?
rocky oasis
Yes you don't want to run stuffs with status chances in sleep teams
not like you have a choice on some budget comps
bc dear god are serena solos miserable
and so are tech venu teams
mossy pebble
I guess stuffs like tech Machamp should work better in those scenarios
rocky oasis
assuming you havent already ised it
mossy pebble
Yes but my point was that the dewgong line was the worst line, and you can't really replace tech rapidash with dewgong
rocky oasis
id still put tech dewgongs 20% freeze over burn
mossy pebble
Yes but the point of using rapidash is for gauge
rocky oasis
which has actually saved my ass
tech dewgong isnt the worst gauge battery
even w/ 2 bar ice beam
in practice at least
not theorymoning
chrome halo
i think Zinfogel's tierlist is objective enough when it comes to egg ranking
mossy pebble
Then what's the worse eggmon line if not dewgong?
chrome halo
here is the full list https://imgur.com/LAxTIP8
rocky oasis
lol striker persian up in "gauntlet utility"
which is fair but
still kinda wild for smth that dies to random air cutters
mossy pebble
Maybe if you are desperate for paralysis
rocky oasis
torn pretty much makes you deperate for para by default
worthy horizon
yeah that's a torn thing
para helps for cobalion too but you might prefer tech persian for that for charms
mossy pebble
Yes I remember running flying guard with tech electrode
mint osprey
I'm finding use even with earlier eggmons. Support Beedrill as the tank for Riley against Regirock
mossy pebble
Generally I can use all the lines of eggmons, but I fee the dewgong one the least useful overall
rocky oasis
striker primeape has amped up if youre really desperate for a sleep clear i guess?
can see it good w/ serena to make her sleep chains less inconsistent
like that shit is a super niche case but it exists i guess
mossy pebble
Tech has 2 gauge moves only and 20% freeze isn't that great, support just buffs 2 speed and spdef for team and 2 gauge only, strike needs a lot of help to use blizzards
rocky oasis
or if you want a enabler for a shitmon trio
gleaming cypress
these were the last few LG clears I rushed in before the event ended
rocky oasis
congrats
gleaming cypress
could have been better but the event was gonna end anyway
I feel like this streak is not the best even for someone of my PR
rocky oasis
its still resources towards your next gauntlet run
mossy pebble
I did 89 streak, I could have done more, but is pretty time consuming
gleaming cypress
it’s gonna be a pain to get vigilance on 90% of my units in prep for the next LG
mossy pebble
I already gave vigilance to lots of pairs for regirock
gleaming cypress
i only got like 20 3* creamy cookies left
worthy horizon
it's pretty easy to attain an excess of vigilance cookies i would say if you learn to auto farm at all
gleaming cypress
a lot of units will need vigi for the future LGs
I don’t really know how to autofarm currently
mint osprey
striker primeape has amped up if youre really desperate for a sleep clear i gues...
Yes, with a damage dealer and a sleep that's a clear
gleaming cypress
the problem with auto is it only clicks one move at a time
so you have to click the rest yourself to clear it faster
mossy pebble
Vigilance is really useful for gauntlet because lots of gauntlet units love to spam AOE sure crit moves
rocky oasis
auto farming is for when youre watching tv
gleaming cypress
hm
rocky oasis
or doing smth interesting
worthy horizon
do manual farming for just an hour straight and you'll understand how little you can keep that up
with auto you can let things run for many many hours
gleaming cypress
do I have to get an auto clicker
rocky oasis
I mean it helps but we technically cant talk about that shit here
worthy horizon
don't need one anyway
gleaming cypress
how long do you run the auto for until you reset
rocky oasis
depends
this time i only autoed uxie
bc fuck terrakion and regi
me and all my homies hate terrakion
worthy horizon
i went for 5 days but 3 days every gauntlet could have you set
rocky oasis
i couldnt get a consistent team vs terrakion
worthy horizon
i managed to build 7 but 2 were taken from gnolte
though i changed the lucian one a little after
had fall phoebe available and i could move ss blue to regirock
still used a bunch of manual inputs for my sst red and ss lysandre teams tho
rocky oasis
yep
which kinda defeated the purpose of a auto
sometimes my tank will randomly decide to fuck around
rocky oasis
a dragon, a cat and a weird cow walk into a bar...
mossy pebble
do I have to get an auto clicker
This should be allowed
tender horizon
Tempting for Anabel
pearl beacon
Was checking the datamine
Skip month but Acerola looks extra nice at base, getting her w anni selects 
Also they really dropped field on ssLyra n ssCyrus 
Hope we'll get ssKris field too
rocky oasis
there goes all the field candy coins
vital ibex
grusha walked so ss kris could run
pearl beacon
SsLyra getting it instantly, need another good tech field
heavy sinew
14/14 soon
pearl beacon
Jasmine expansion is fkn good, idt they missed something
Except for revenge boost but w/e
chrome halo
they missed wise entry
sturdy steeple
good job everyone on LG this month 
(i as schleeping when LG finished)
heavy sinew
nutty expansion
heavy sinew
good job everyone on LG this month <:naocheer:876465310008487937> (i as schleepi...
so real
rocky oasis
use w/ mad strength?
sturdy steeple
mhmmm
rocky oasis
or fierce entry
sturdy steeple
or you can just run vigilance since her healing is real nice now
pearl beacon
I stil have Ft2 Wise entry2
rocky oasis
going w/ mad strength bc i need those cookies for putting ppe on flints useless ass
fire blast misses hurt
got the diea off someone here
sturdy steeple
facts
heavy sinew
ppe for cs2 or anything else is interesting
bitter gate
cedar pawn
ran out of cookies btw
Imagine running out these days.
cedar pawn
Auto mining.
rocky oasis
lmao i pretty much spend every lg cutting close to the wire
very little time for farming
cedar pawn
I still haven’t done 100 runs.
cedar pawn
Not my highest Auto run but a respectable 32 teams this time.
blissful rose
LG ended today, just finished CS and BR, and tomorrow Damage Challenge starts. 
rocky oasis
i ran out of the blue cookies ages ago
cedar pawn
i ran out of the blue cookies ages ago
Grind Battle Villa
rocky oasis
nope
i dont have the time to grind for like 4 cookies
not worth it
it was barely worth it to grind stage 1 for stoic
cedar pawn
That’s why I build Autos. Let them run while you work.
lost juniper
Are auto clickers even allowed in this game?
river cliff
I don't see why they wouldn't be, especially if it's functionality already built into the phone
sturdy steeple
i havent needed to grind cookies for like the past few lgs but im also pretty conservative with cookie use
rocky oasis
i need to put vigilance on everything
which wasnt a option before multiple ls was a thing
river cliff
Silver deluxe cookies are always a problem for me. There's always some random entry skill that ends up being something that would help a lot, but of course those cookies are the most rare
lost juniper
I had to use Sharp Entry 1 ls 3 times this gauntlet
On Jasmine, Lana and SC Ingo, all for Regirock
shy sinew
Lana just keeps sharp entry 1 in her core three though right
river cliff
Yeah
Sharp entry, dc2, and either status or interference immunity or maybe her new lucky skill seems like the play for the third slot
gleaming cypress
oh i have lana too, this will be interesting
(shes at 1/5)
so she doesn't even get wide guard mp refresh
(basically useless)
sturdy steeple
id say dont give her the personal cookie yet
she prefers other skills
and youd rather have those options open for those other skills
chrome halo
Wise Entry 2 and Sharp Entry 1 are pretty much her preferred skills
sometimes even DC2 too
gleaming cypress
what r the reasons tho
ik she can't buff her own crit so leech life does barely anything
maybe thats why sharp entry 1??
and what even does DC 2 refer to
shy sinew
defense crush
sharp entry is just a super common solo LS because then she can heal decently well
chrome halo
it also makes most of her solo/duo easier
inner turret
if you solo sharp entry and defense crush are generaly the best
if you duo the personal ls might be useful
lost juniper
Her lucky skill might get more useful if she gets grid expansion to buff her crit rate
gleaming cypress
i see
sturdy steeple
if you duo the personal ls might be useful
if you duo then you have less reliance on her needing extra healing, so not even too much more useful, youd prefer utility or an immunity in that case
lost juniper
what about vigilance
She has it on her grid
inner turret
if you duo then you have less reliance on her needing extra healing, so not even...
true
karmic willow
Are auto clickers even allowed in this game?
i remember people asking this
and uhh
no
sadly
lost juniper
It isn't? Yeah then I'm not risking a ban for more convenience
I'd just grind them the old fashioned way
heavy sinew
97 year old diner grinds cookies the old fashioned way
lost juniper
Yup. That or I'm just gonna spend stamina on the cookie area
karmic willow
Yup. That or I'm just gonna spend stamina on the cookie area
literally me
that's why i'm too lazy doing events nowdadays
river cliff
They really need to make the drop rates for that area better, it feels so bad getting shafted
karmic willow
careful they might nerf it even
optimal use of it
and the stamina pack
is when training rally starts
we need it every month tbh
river cliff
I'm always too busy investing my stamina into farming 3* powerups from events to go for cookies. During rallies I'll sometimes go for codexes and drinks I'm low on though
pearl beacon
Gladly I'm done w bronzies
Everything raised, and they keep staying aound 1k
For drinks I'm just getting the Ultra Drink + from events, it's the damn bottleneck because math
river cliff
I've been doing that too
I'm barely getting enough powerups to exchange for the 4* variants each month, and I have a good amount of niche eggmons I'd like to 4* at some point so it'll be a while before I have a good enough stockpile
pearl beacon
Ye just grind bronzies during VA part2, are the only ones worth dumping stamina
pearl beacon
Part 1 is usually better
Nop
pearl beacon
I had a sheet for that lemme check
chrome halo
Idkw
chrome halo
Yeah
karmic willow
I'm always too busy investing my stamina into farming 3* powerups from events to...
man
i have like
almost 2k
from bad gacha pulls
river cliff
I only spend on the cheap bundle every now and then and only pull on master fairs the majority of the time, so my supply has never gone above 300
shy sinew
I wish I could exchange more, got 5k+ of the bronze ones sitting around waiting for more 2* powerups for my eggmons
river cliff
2* powerups are a real bottleneck
It took me forever to get all my good eggmons past 2*
I still have a bunch of bad shinies I need to get higher to satisfy my ocd
chrome halo
I remember when i ran out of cake thing for eggmon. Dark time
river cliff
Weird that they did that
river cliff
I remember when i ran out of cake thing for eggmon. Dark time
I still don't have a lot of my eggmons caked all the way up
chrome halo
I think i still have a few ones whose affinity isnt maxed yet, but i rarely use them nowadays
At least my cake finance is much better now
river cliff
The fact that they don't give us an even 20 three star cakes in egg events drives me nuts
pearl beacon
Weird that they did that
Maybe they're afraid of free farming for some reasion
I always taught they're gonna tweak LG rewards at some point
Before VA reruns bronzies were painful
river cliff
They definitely don't seem to happen as often, my supply always plummets when we get a month without one
river cliff
I'm not on twitter
karmic willow
oh
then
someone else
pretty sure they are in here or smth
XD
oh right
found 'em
pearl beacon
This is the bronze thing I had to keep track of farming (20 stamina/bronze ratio)
Def this new VA p2 is meh, make no sense Dena
My best monthly influx is still poma day banners
The 25 and 100 paid never fail to bring bronzies
5 months in a row with no 5* in the f2p one
scenic bolt
Also they really dropped field on ssLyra n ssCyrus <:BarryPogChamp:7181734261995...
Field on lyra is pogggggg
Now kriss field so all 3 are field
Complete the set
karmic willow
now
give all 3 galar birds sprint
or
just marnie and hop
and give bede tech for solos
ez
hop can rush his solos faster
while marnie needs speed
also
orange bird
orange role
so real
sturdy steeple
im content with them all having sprint
shy sinew
give all 3 galar birds sprint
would not mind this because it would mean they rerun next and I am missing all of them
sturdy steeple
i wanted field bede, but we do have bellelba now so
shy sinew
oh yeah she’s field exr I forgor
sturdy steeple
marnie about to be the third mfair strike with sprint 
(its fine, its good for her anyways,,, i guess,,,)
lost juniper
The galar birds work well with most roles. I don't want Hop to have strike though, and neither does Bede
river cliff
I do wonder what Adaman and Irida will get
Adaman getting field would be pretty hilarious
karmic willow
(its fine, its good for her anyways,,, i guess,,,)
faster speed and faster chance to do D O U B L E B move
shy sinew
surely it’s down to a role that starts with the letter S
karmic willow
Adaman getting field would be pretty hilarious
i want him support
rotund rain
Also, Galar still doesn't have a Sprint pair currently
karmic willow
PLEASE
sturdy steeple
faster speed and faster chance to do D O U B L E B move
but field ,,
sturdy steeple
Also, Galar still doesn't have a Sprint pair currently
good point
inner turret
glorialt 
lost juniper
Marnie wants field, Hop wants sprint, Bede I'm fine with whatever he gets except strike
karmic willow
Marnie wants field, Hop wants sprint, Bede I'm fine with whatever he gets except...
god i wish it's tech
inner turret
field gives speed
lost juniper
Field increases that too
lost juniper
god i wish it's tech
For Bede I dig it actually since it helps for solos
His damage is pretty good for a support
raven crane
(its fine, its good for her anyways,,, i guess,,,)
No Field for you~
sturdy steeple
kris field makes up for it tho
i do want hop to get sprint because it would be my first sprint tech unit lol
not a big fan of the current sprint tech units, wally is cool but i dont use him enough to warrant a whole cake
jade ore
Sprint is honestly just his best EXR anyway
sturdy steeple
well, support would be but
jade ore
Fighting teams have enough support syncs already. Might be better for LG but in general I prefer sprint
sturdy steeple
lol i feel like fighting has more sprint syncs
jade ore
Tbf it kinda does
raven crane
Fighting is gas.
sturdy steeple
but ofc that sprint is good because big bad dude palmer
jade ore
But like, you have both NC Rosa and Bianca having support EX syncs already for fighting teams
sturdy steeple
bianca being the premier fighting damage dealer support sync tho does make hop want something else
even tho support is just fucking good no matter what
jade ore
And Hop isnt wanting to sync early bc he takes a while to setup
sturdy steeple
support syncs arent just about syncing early
jade ore
Not necessarily, but they do like it
raven crane
Any and everyone happily takes Support.
jade ore
Its never objectively bad, but often I will prefer other roles to it
sturdy steeple
for uniqueness sake sure
river cliff
I feel like strike and sprint are typically the worst. Strike is next to useless in gauntlet and sprint is only good if you're either a support or if you have a b move that can only be used once per sync cycle
sturdy steeple
sprint is also bad because if you were to be a sprint unit, youd rather be a Base sprint unit for the innate multiplier
jade ore
Even on the second point sometimes idt sprint is good, like for NC Marnie I think Sprint is still just her worst possible role
sturdy steeple
base strike + role sprint is like one of the worst role combos of all time compared to all the other ones
jade ore
Yeah
raven crane
not a big fan of the current sprint tech units, wally is cool but i dont use him...
Poor Classic Elesa….
river cliff
Poor nc silver
sturdy steeple
Poor Classic Elesa….
celesa is fine but mine is only 2/5,,,,
i feel like sprint tech/tech sprint is good but the units that have it rn arent high investment for me rn lmao
larry looks appealing tho
raven crane
celesa is fine but mine is only 2/5,,,,
Hmph.
sturdy steeple
heavy sinew
2/5 c Elesa gang
raven crane
Disgusting.
heavy sinew
i recently got her from mix pity don't judge me
jade ore
0/5 c elesa gang
lost juniper
i feel like sprint tech/tech sprint is good but the units that have it rn arent ...
I caked her purely to get the bonus in rally. She also came in handy with the Tornadus solo
Mine 2/5 too
inner turret
I caked her purely to get the bonus in rally. She also came in handy with the To...
this for ss may lol
rotund rain
A combo I haven't invested much is surprisingly Strike + Tech
lost juniper
I actually have May 2/5 as well, but at the time I needed Elesa more
Cause May went to sleep chain regardless
inner turret
my may is 1/5
heavy sinew
0/5 SS may gang
inner turret
i shouldn't even have her to begin with but she came in a yolo
river cliff
A combo I haven't invested much is surprisingly Strike + Tech
I think that's tied for highest with tech support and support sprint for me
rocky oasis
Tbh putting striker candy on a tech is a waste of vouchers most of the time outside of just raw stats
putting tech on striker is also kind of a waste when they have zero nuke to begin w/
like archie and maxie
could have used support
smth like palmer and ss red is kind of the exception
i usually spend my vouchers on support
you can never go wrong w/ more bulk + extra sync buffs
river cliff
I don't mind tech on strikers, it serves as a way to "fix" their sync. I've liked having it on Rose and NC Red
shy sinew
Tbh putting striker candy on a tech is a waste of vouchers most of the time outs...
imo this only just got valuable with damage challenge
which as a gamemode plays very opposite to LG
lost juniper
Tbh putting striker candy on a tech is a waste of vouchers most of the time outs...
Strike cake on tech become much more useful now with the damage challenge and Ultimate Battles
shy sinew
I probably won’t go out of my way to pick up more strike cakes but I’ll definitely EX my tech + strikes
tender horizon
I did a cool short summary of my teams in this LG!
Regirock - 8 solos, 21 duos, 23 trios
Uxie - 1 solo, 33 duos ,18 trios
Terrakion - 6 solos, 18 duos, 28 trios
Which shows that Uxie is the easiest
worthy horizon
you used more units on regirock
or am i dumb somehow
i'm biased against uxie bc that's the one that made me question my life decisions
raven crane
Playing this game makes me do that as is.
tender horizon
you used more units on regirock
ah i used the least units in Regirock apparently
doesnt really mean its the easiest imo
i think the amount of trio teams is a good indicator
stuck mantle
Thank good Regirock dont come back soon
lost juniper
Thank good Regirock dont come back soon
You never know, we got Latias back to back in LG7 and LG8
stuck mantle
Most anoing lg boss for me
shy sinew
if I never had to see another Regirock in my life I wouldn’t mind at all
stuck mantle
Latias is way more easy then him
lost juniper
That's not the point
I meant if DeNA wanted they'd put him again
They had precedence
shy sinew
technically Dena could do whatever they want but maybe with these numbered LGs that changes?
stuck mantle
Dont expect him come back this year
tender horizon
Thank good Regirock dont come back soon
DeNA: Regirock, Moltres and Cresselia next
rocky oasis
I hate you
river cliff
I don't mind Regirock if there isn't another arena in the rotation that spams rock, fighting, and ground moves
lost juniper
Dont expect him come back this year
I sure hope not, but at the same time if Regirock comes too rarely we become unprepared to him
tender horizon
next one shud have Raikou in it
lost juniper
next one shud have Raikou in it
Yes please
stuck mantle
Molters cress regigi?
stuck mantle
Would be deadly trio
tender horizon
i hate Moltres istg
river cliff
Please sub Moltres
lost juniper
Molters cress regigi?
Moltres, Cress, Latias is worse since both wants debuffs
tender horizon
i actually did less MOltres clears than Terrakion or Regi
WAY less, so it's not a unit number issue
river cliff
Bulu Latias Raikou would be ideal
lost juniper
I hope Cress never comes
stuck mantle
And no sun haha
tender horizon
u can do sun teams anyways but those are pain
river cliff
I'm expecting Moltres, Bulu, Raikou
lost juniper
u can do sun teams anyways but those are pain
SS Morty stonks
stuck mantle
Nah
stuck mantle
Raikou is not soo easy
tender horizon
lost juniper
Many solos overlap so no 400
stuck mantle
Entei more easy then him
tender horizon
well u need some hard content still!
stuck mantle
Entei bulu latios 300 easy
stuck mantle
Why nice round
I check gardenia
And found one thing:)
We have unit wat can set 2 zones🤣
Only issue they cant stock:) one only
Wat is realy stupid
Trainer move ghost zone
worthy horizon
yeah that steel zone could get in the way a lot
stuck mantle
B move ghost zone
And if want low defence all oponents
Apear steel zone and ghost gone
worthy horizon
and then when you want steel zone field ex could be annoying
stuck mantle
Yeap
Its kinda use steal zone make sens when your ghost after sync gone
Then its ok other way if you sync steal will gone also
Kinda pointless use it if want sync
For solo this is realy annoing
And why trainer move and b move have ghost zone?
This is also kinda annoing
worthy horizon
might be better to keep her non-ex until you have something specific that demands it
or her support ex role
stuck mantle
This gardenia have zero heal flinch sleep . Or eva gamming.
sturdy steeple
She can buff Eva except it's very random
stuck mantle
From passive
1 sts random
So dont count on it realy
Befor get 4-6 you will be dead
worthy horizon
no sustain and only haunted accel and catalytic infliction to help with gauge
gets a few atk/spa debuffs at least
stuck mantle
Where haunted heal?
worthy horizon
nowhere
stuck mantle
Why we need steal zone extension?
Not this i dont get realy
If ghost and steal could be at same time ok
But no
worthy horizon
very lg-unfriendly but has plenty of opportunity in damage challenge
worthy horizon
that too
worthy horizon
steel-weak damage challenge will need it
stuck mantle
For regirock bar 2/3
Lol no need zone bro
Zone suks for it
You need win fast
Zone make it slower
No zone more faster and score also good damage
Zone only on entry will make diffrence
Like tapus
shy sinew
damage challenge is a constant time of 3:00 though, entry zone doesn’t cover it entirely
stuck mantle
Yes i mean about time
shy sinew
against enemies with infinite hp
stuck mantle
And no bonus if you like deal biger dammage in 2m? And quit?
shy sinew
damage challenge wants zone preferably with extension because top reward is at 1 million plus secondary rewards every 50k
stuck mantle
So its overall damage count?
shy sinew
yep
stuck mantle
Not 1 big singel?
jade ore
total damage dealt
shy sinew
main rewards are given out every 10k up until 1 million, then after that it’s a single ticket every 50k points
shy sinew
it’s probably just barely possible but you’d basically want every multiplier you can get your hands on for that
stuck mantle
Yeap but you need like 2/3 syncs
Not sure how this will work lol
Or this boss is realy weak
?
jade ore
the boss doesnt hit hard at all
stuck mantle
I mean defence need be low
jade ore
same defense stats as the UBs
shy sinew
well they don’t do meaningful damage back to you so you can run all damage dealers assuming gauge is fine
stuck mantle
For damage
jade ore
i mean i dont think it's meant to be easy
lost juniper
Then how in 3m you can deal 1 milion lol
You can do 1m danage against Palmer's UB
This one might be the same
stuck mantle
In 3m?
stuck mantle
We get tommorow nemona?
lost juniper
Yeah
lost juniper
Ok so Jacq works
lost juniper
I think for Psychic weak SS Lana, SS Steven and Rosa are best
stuck mantle
Rosa?
lost juniper
NC Rosa
jade ore
problem with Rosa is that her B Move animation takes forever
jade ore
i think LuSSa over Rosa is the play
lost juniper
Well in that case SS Lusamine
jade ore
since the stage has 3 enemies
stuck mantle
Ss steven lana and jacq?
lost juniper
She specifically loves Super effective and Lana is an Aola pair
stuck mantle
Gauge lussa will be pain
lost juniper
Ss steven lana and jacq?
Jacq also works
stuck mantle
And stevens
lost juniper
Lusamine with Speedy Entry is quite fast
stuck mantle
I dont have speedy entry just fast track
Steven attack form
Lana zone
They dont have resilence?
If they dont move mean faster attack and more points
No time for them
sturdy steeple
With crosa she actually has instant animations with status move failing, and she can aoe sleep the enemy so
jade ore
you can reset
heavy sinew
W
lost juniper
Good thing my psychic types are good for tomorrow
worthy horizon
yarrdenia's steel zone being tied to first metal sound is pretty bad so even in dc using it will be awkward if it ends up helping
loud shell
Have we figured out how difficult it will be to get the tickets for the units?
heavy sinew
yarrdenia
jade ore
1 every ~2 weeks is the estimate i'm working with rn
jade ore
probably will be a bit faster with the ranked mode giving tickets separately, but yeah, definitely reasonable
loud shell
I just want Gladion for my ice teams
jade ore
Gladion's who i'm gonna focus on too
rotund rain
I will go for Gladion first too
median swan
yarrdenia's steel zone being tied to first metal sound is pretty bad so even in ...
screaming at "yarrdenia" omg
worthy horizon
official name
median swan
Have we figured out how difficult it will be to get the tickets for the units?
if you can consistently get 100 tickets per stage (so 1m damage) you can get a copy every 3 rotations (so every week and a half)
loud shell
if you can consistently get 100 tickets per stage (so 1m damage) you can get a c...
Gonna have to see how f2p friendly it is
Doubtful of it being that
rotund rain
I hope you can consistently get a super high score from it for your Rival collection
lost juniper
Max points is 1 million?
loud shell
On the bright side Wally looks pretty good
rotund rain
I think there's 1 more for every 50K points after the 1 million
it's 1 Training Ticket every 10K points until the 1 million
and 50K points after
quaint tartan
But it’s cumulative damage or 1 shot?👀
Translate: do I have to invest in poppy or I can sit with my 3/5 rose? 
median swan
it's cumulative
worthy horizon
cumulative for 3 minutes
median swan
i thought it was single-instance too but cumulative makes it a lot easier imo
quaint tartan
You can use more pairs for sure, if it was only 1shot it was going to be a race to 3/5 poppy for the Bmove
Now we can use more stuff to work around it
dawn plume
so getting the rival pairs maxed out will take some time then?
makes sense i suppose
gives us something to do
also i was sleeping on hugh he's got some good stuff...
growl debuffing both offenses and he has this tile which works even if the move fails
quaint tartan
makes sense i suppose
Wasn’t expecting anything less tbf, as it was for trainer lodge and battle points
they need to give a meaning to the grinds and make it last through time
dawn plume
yea not complaining about it
free pairs are free pairs
solo-wise, hugh should slaughter bulu
dunno what the rest got to offer
quaint tartan
I don’t see so much solo potential, lg wise those are more duo oriented pairs
I think the main focus is rally for these new units and I’m totally fine ☑️
dawn plume
releases f2p unit that can debuff both offenses right after terrakion lg ends
weak to rock
bravo dena
heavy sinew
they're very silly
quaint tartan
For me they are fine for being the first F2P sprint/field.. they had to be somehow a “lighter” version of units we’ve already seen
I mean, Nemona is basically Kukui
inner turret
For me they are fine for being the first F2P sprint/field.. they had to be someh...
victor and riley:
quaint tartan
victor and riley:
Oh right they exist
jade ore
permanently accessible term of f2p ig
inner turret
yeah
rocky oasis
I don’t see so much solo potential, lg wise those are more duo oriented pairs
evasion shenanigans are evasion shenanigans
quaint tartan
Also my personal opinion
Victor is not better than those
jade ore
like who cares if riley was available for free, he is completely inaccessible rn
rocky oasis
wally got evasion too btw
worthy horizon
me :^)
quaint tartan
Riley has sync acc shenanigans/max moves/ex role
inner turret
i care because he was my only sprint for a while 
yeah why tf does riley have an ex role but not the new dc pairs
quaint tartan
But Victor doesn’t overclass any of the new units
jade ore
good q
dawn plume
cuz time limited i guess?
inner turret
inner turret
can't wait for victor to not get the strike ex he deserves
median swan
they should all get field and sprint cakes 
inner turret
lol
quaint tartan
Wasn’t Riley for the debut of rally/ex roles/something?
inner turret
he was before palmer ub 
quaint tartan
It’s still a debut
quaint tartan
The real question is what’s the best team for tomorrow’s steel weak challenge 
jade ore
the first damage challenge thing is psychic weak though...
quaint tartan
Oh
dawn plume
there a permanent version and a ranked version
inner turret
SS Lusa SS Lana SS Steven
quaint tartan
Don’t know why I thought tomorrow we were getting the nemona fight
inner turret
dawn plume
tomorrow is nemona and yeah its psychic
quaint tartan
Mmmh… so not steel weak lycanrock
dawn plume
nah she has pawmot
quaint tartan
SS Lusa SS Lana SS Steven
I still have an ace upon my sleeve
jacq
quaint tartan
Jacq’s b move will have fun 🤩
inner turret
Good for single target psychic weak tho
dawn plume
https://pastebin.com/ZbUnRfzF there are 34 different stages that cycle, its every 4 days then every 3 days, etc, so we get 2 a week
34, so 2 for each type weakness
inner turret
It's pinned in #1255888121648644197 btw
dawn plume
oh hurray more stuff to follow
battle each of the rivals except for trevor because dena just hates him i guess
even tierno is here
median swan
it's all the playable ones (minus lear and paulo)
true tartan
he was so ebil he didn't get the invitation
pearl beacon
https://pastebin.com/ZbUnRfzF there are 34 different stages that cycle, its ever...
Ooof fkn hate the timings
river cliff
he was so ebil he didn't get the invitation
So was N
pearl beacon
CS BR and now that twice x week
scenic bolt
scenic bolt
battle each of the rivals except for trevor because dena just hates him i guess
Isn’t there another guy in that group
I can’t remember though
The kalos group
true tartan
they were 3
scenic bolt
Also does penny count as a rival
true tartan
nope
she never was a "rival" to you... similar to Arven?
they were more like companions
scenic bolt
I just meant did masters count as it
median swan
yeah
scenic bolt
Kek
sturdy steeple
poor trevor
dawn plume
i feel like trevor is likely to come in august since dena loves adding new spotlights right before anniversary so i'm surprised they didn't wait to add this game mode until anniversary
heavy sinew
Trevor in September
dawn plume
then again, between the training ticket pairs and the new bp pairs that come at anni, that'd be a LOT of sync pairs to add in one update
heavy sinew
adds more chances of crashing the game
median swan
barry and hop get three stages though
oop i've been wondering how they fit 16 rivals into 34 stages lol
i hope they replace those with trevor once he's added haha
or kieran
trevor's florges has been in the files for a while too
worthy horizon
i just like kabu being pokefair <:GoodMan:375765964597231637>
that said i am very anti-fomo and i am fine saying you don't need to pull even w/ lodge
particularly if you have nc blue and ss morty already
median swan
So how does this mode work
if you're talking about damage challenge there's a summary here #1255888121648644197 message
pearl beacon
that said i am very anti-fomo and i am fine saying you don't need to pull even w...
I'm grabbing Kabu w selects
Kinda like him and his lodge units is good
But not expecting him in lodge
I mean we have other priorities I think
median swan
i'm in the same boat but he'll compete with rika and i think i'd rather get her lol
pearl beacon
Sure, Rika is by far better
worthy horizon
i only just realized that soloes would be the technically correct spelling
but that one gets the red squiggly underline and not solos when you input it for the title so
dawn plume
soloes looks weird
kind imp
I think people use both
inner turret
i only just realized that soloes would be the technically correct spelling
I noticed that a while ago
kind imp
And also soloing and solo at the start
inner turret
Started using it at this point and modified all my previous titles
worthy horizon
lol i'll modify at least some of mine then
my gauntlet uploads are individual videos so i'm not doing those but i edited the rest for uniformity
kind imp
I wonder if the small differences impact yt search or not
Also anyone knows how to use tags?
mines are normally blank
worthy horizon
i don't bother handling any of that ofc but i don't imagine something as small as that particular spelling would make a meaningful difference numbers-wise
true tartan
I think people use both
I've always used soloes lol
but that comes as... I remember this class in english from so long ago... the "rule to follow" was that you should put "-es" if the word ended in o
so... I just follow that till this day haha
sturdy steeple
this is why i use soloing in my titles
worthy horizon
the correct plural is still solos though, i looked it up
sturdy steeple
cause i dont wanna choose between solos and soloes
worthy horizon
xd
worthy horizon
yea soloes is for the verb
true tartan
still, not really that it matters
you can use both and still get the idea by context haha
raven crane
Really just had a conversation about proper grammar usage in reference to Pokemon Masters EX.
median swan
salvatore would be proud
kind imp
i like these interesting small things
like looking at yt analytics sometimes
2 views in this os, 5 seconds of average viewtime
did they misclick? did they click thinking it was smth else? if so, what?
also interesting to see views jump during lg
i have 36 views of audio only playset, back, so these people must have forgotten the video on, and that amounts to 2.7h total
i have 8 subs but 20 returning viewers (at peak)
i'm gonna see how i can use yt in my homebrewed wii to confuse people
how people write their descriptions (when they do)
pearl beacon
id grab volo in selects
Idk if they're splitting by roles
dawn plume
last time they split by region yeah
which left lear and paulo neglected
lear neglected as usual...
just realized greta is the first hoenn pokefair since ss wally in 2022
jeez
sturdy steeple
thats hilarious
worthy horizon
and everyone's bullying her xd
median swan
just realized greta is the first hoenn pokefair since ss wally in 2022
they didn't know how to follow perfection
pearl beacon
last time they split by region yeah
We got both type of selects between half anni and new year
Luckly for of tanks I only miss kabu n argenta, alrd skipped her in half anni selects
pearl beacon
just realized greta is the first hoenn pokefair since ss wally in 2022
And sprintfield 📈
true tartan
time to look at the "possible runs" again I suppose
heavy sinew
and everyone's bullying her xd
Good
worthy horizon
if nobody else does anything i might end up doing 4/5 kabu on cobalion and bulu
overwhelm looks nice
worthy horizon
haha more specifically base kabu solos
pearl beacon
Monke got 1 bar move spam and FA2+hh
sturdy steeple
it is worse mankey but i do appreciate any new crit supports
pearl beacon
And it's like 3 y ago or more
sturdy steeple
it does have a debuff tho
pearl beacon
Ye for a stat fix works but ehhh
worthy horizon
it is worse mankey but i do appreciate any new crit supports
same
pearl beacon
Also no shiny? 
sturdy steeple
rhydon shouldve buffed def tho smh
raven crane
Why is rhydon trash <:LarryDead:1090014801654198383>
I'd be more concerned with how Tech is just Support but shit.
How many instances of that are there again? Probably a lot.
Tech could have just gotten S A N D S T O R M.
pearl beacon
How many instances of that are there again? Probably a lot.
Yup, some lines have tech/supp w similar kits or little outcome difference
Guess we have to wait Hypno to get a crazy good eggmon
~~ probably not happening in time for the next LG ~~
pearl beacon
Would be cool but also weird to have tons of Manaphy eggs
raven crane
Nah.
You're guaranteed one Manaphy, the rest are Phiones.
Which will be the most literal version of what we just talked about, with the only difference is that Phione is shittier.
Is this peak in my recommended?
Rika!
pearl beacon
Mc & Manaphy as event would be cool tho, hope for more stuff like Alcreamie
raven crane
No kidding.
At the very least it'd be nice if they increased the influx of eggs and gave us more then Kanto.
But hey, we've been screaming that for four years.
pearl beacon
Kinda fine getting starters
raven crane
Starters are cool.
It's been like half a year though!
dawn plume
oh apparently latias and terrakion were actually pretty easy
raven crane
Wow fucking literally.
pearl beacon
Wow fucking literally.
Did you missed?
raven crane
No, just it's been half a year since the last set of starters in the eggs.
pearl beacon
feeling more validated in my decision to 3/5 rika
Yeah she's def great at 3/5
Vigilance, def buffs
dawn plume
idk if they'll add the other starters they just wanted to add the ones that are on main console switch games cuz haha relevant
raven crane
Sinnoh just left to rot, eh?
dawn plume
i mean looking at bdsp, yes
raven crane
Mf.
Maybe they'll put in Rowlet, Oshawott and Cyndaquil during the Anniversary.
If it's Hisui.
pearl beacon
Sinnoh
Hisui
I don't think ppl care abt og much since we are missing so many PLA units
dawn plume
yeah hisui is struggling lol
meanwhile july is the first month since 2023 they haven't added a new paldea character
wild
pearl beacon
Anniversary Irida Adaman Volo
I'll take that but also
bright brook
Meanwhile shellder egg came out 2 years ago and has never been rerun nor added to the general pool
worthy horizon
raven crane
Meanwhile shellder egg came out 2 years ago and has never been rerun nor added t...
Good.
Fuck Cloyster.
raven crane
Peep the 4x weakness to Ice.
pearl beacon
Fkn shellder, I got lucky to get hatch a single supp (2) but damn
Rates were fucked up
bright brook
Cloyster is good egg 
dawn plume
oh wow rika just destroys latias lol why wasnt this lowered sooner
bright brook
1 of 2 eggs who max out everyones def
dawn plume
3 now
butterfree
considering tech butterfree is a sleeper with no speed buffs and no troublemaker...
bright brook
Oh supp butterfree does that too?
dawn plume
yea
median swan
really need cloyster to rerun, innate vigi on a +6 def eggmon is great
worthy horizon
one of the worst sleepers and one of the best supp eggmons and you still have to run tech frequently
bright brook
Rhydon is so mediocre despite being a crit buffer
Stomping tantrum not really spammable
Should have given them mud shot or mudslap
chrome halo
Mud Slap is too op for an eggmon so they decided to nerf Rhyhorn so much
looks how high is sup Marowak / Sandslash with Mud Slap in tierlist
bright brook
Dugtrio too
dawn plume
its pretty normal now lol
which is fucking sad
cant wait for a whopping 25k at anni
blissful rose
Invite 8 friends for the 10k gems.
dawn plume
i will simply perish
its a skip month for me anyways
none of these units are that appealing
blissful rose
Saving til Anni no matter what for hopefully 2 pities worth of gems and pray for the 3rd MF to come early. 
heavy sinew
Yarrdenia and Klara are tempting me so bad
stuck mantle
Gardenia is bad for solo
heavy sinew
for their outfits
stuck mantle
Only use for this hse
Best is acerola
Hse good and lg
Only bad in acerola you need
Use your trainer move 3 times and mp and crit squad from grid
Its stupid realy 3 times for max crit
rocky oasis
only bad thing about acerola is her low ass spatk
which is meh
Staggering helps but those solos are gonna be a massive slog
stuck mantle
Massive time frame
Like rika
Sad she dont have syncro or recup
Recover mp check susk badly
worthy horizon
slightly higher offense than rika but not autoable bc recover reliant
sturdy steeple
feeling more validated in my decision to 3/5 rika
wonderful
stuck mantle
Rika is nice:)
stuck mantle
So wat solo try whit gardenia?
worthy horizon
latios
stuck mantle
Ok got it and wat grid you recomend?
worthy horizon
i almost have no idea but gauge stuff is important so shadow ball and flash cannon mgrs, haunted acceleration, and maybe catalytic infliction are things you should keep an eye on
you'll have to do a bunch of trial and error probably
true tartan
no need to rush
stuck mantle
Off course got para🤣
How nice
Love it
This hear pasive raise sts i dont now how work
Since got 2 def and 2 atack whole game lol
karmic willow
Wait guys
stuck mantle
Nothing else
stuck mantle
Damage challenge
karmic willow
Takes too much time up
stuck mantle
I told it yeasterday
chrome halo
#1255888121648644197
stuck mantle
She not good for it
stuck mantle
no need to rush <:DawnNom:632438643935674381>
So wat try next stdk?
true tartan
no idea
true tartan
I didn't plan for any of them
worthy horizon
i wouldn't expect more than latios from her
stuck mantle
Me too
worthy horizon
would be bulu if anything though
