Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)

[worthy horizon]

that's where i got

[heavy sinew]

no tate for terra?

[worthy horizon]

psychic damage doesn't compensate for no attack debuffs/terrain

and only has 40% flinch

[dawn plume]

good form grid expansion for tate when

[heavy sinew]

rising tide

[worthy horizon]

lot of potential with grid expansion there yeah

[worthy horizon]

that run did have bad health going into bar 2 rewatching it

[heavy sinew]

are y'all soloing with sycamore on uxie or regirock?

i cant get terrakion for the life of me

[vital ibex]

regirock

prob better to do uxie tho tbh

[heavy sinew]

i think uxie is less restrictive than regirock

[lost juniper]

I did Regirock

[sturdy steeple]

I don't think this is the case but it's moreso that uxie can be beaten more cheaply even while being extremely restrictive,, while Regirock is much harder to beat cheaply but in reality isn't more restrictive in unit sense

[heavy sinew]

honestly

thats the best way to put it

[worthy horizon]

yeah

[heavy sinew]

no rebuttal

you win this time

[sturdy steeple]

Victory royale

[lost juniper]

I would say Regirock is harder only because making duos to it is worse than with Uxie

[sturdy steeple]

Yeah it's def harder

[lost juniper]

At least with Uxie I got a lot to work with

[worthy horizon]

i made a bunch of regirock duos off sticking a steel type and covering its weaknesses

[lost juniper]

Crit shield is also super annoying for Regirock, and the fact it increases its defense stat

[lost juniper]

Painful, but Morty can auto for the most part. I would try to nuke Bar 2 to brute force it faster

[heavy sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-win-gif-18390652

[heavy sinew]

run mind games

[river cliff]

Think the run is possible? If is I might pivot Tate to Regirock instead

[lost juniper]

Crit Thunder says hi

[heavy sinew]

just nuke it

silly

[lost juniper]

I don't think he can nuke from above half

I tried with mind games but got it with Vigilance

[heavy sinew]

idk i got it with mindgames

[worthy horizon]

dunno tbh lol

it kinda should be but if it is it's ass

and might require a much higher than average investment

like this seems super good already

[raven crane]

Looks like it just depends on how you drink your poison.

[heavy sinew]

medium rare

[raven crane]

Room temperature.

Expired.

[kind imp]

Tho one poison has faster attempts than the other

[frail zealot]

I have absolutely no idea how to build teams for these battles

[heavy sinew]

me neither

[frail zealot]

should I be able to clear each one with only 3 sync pairs?

[kind imp]

Normally yes

How many leveled up/gridded/etc.. units do you have?

[frail zealot]

gridded a few

[lost juniper]

Guess both can work

[sturdy steeple]

finished updating the solo sheet with the new stuff

[heavy sinew]

ty

damn ss misty duo shouldnt be this hard

[frail zealot]

gridded: free legendaries, Olivia, pelipper, swellow, alola dugtrio, exeggutor, skyla, palmer, lusamine, alakazam(minimal), dawn (minimal), incineroar (minimal), ss misty, darach

[sturdy steeple]

i was consistently missing the damage ranges then i made her 150 and killed the bars easily 😭

[heavy sinew]

mines is 150

maybe i had a wrong grid?

lemme check

OHHHH its cause i did it with vaporeon

and not quax

this duck is fucked up

[sturdy steeple]

oh bless

[heavy sinew]

i think quax is cheaper than vaporeon so ima try that

[sturdy steeple]

you mainly need quaxly for the spatk buffs access

im sure you could attempt gambling with team smart infliction to make vaporeon work but like why

[heavy sinew]

yea that strue

[heavy sinew]

so how do you exactly win because my quax

keeps dying

and i dont nuke bar 1 enogh

[lost juniper]

You tank with Misty, first sync to Quax, you only buff after Misty syncs again

Good luck with keeping the duck alive though

You may need 5* stats for that

[heavy sinew]

damn man

saw trope's video but it only shows oafter half bar

quax cannot survive the onslaught of bulldozes

5* too

wtf this clear is bad

[river cliff]

I've been messing with witty hit and egg vaporeon but any stone edge crit is pretty much a reset. It might be possible though, I got it to bar 3 using healthy healing

[robust nymph]

i've practically run out of regirock team ideas send help

[worthy horizon]

bp valerie swimsuit misty is super easy

did it without gear without problems

grids

did every sync with misty

[robust nymph]

misty doesn't need EX I hope

[worthy horizon]

i would lean towards her not needing it

[robust nymph]

mmm i'm getting severe gauge issues

common regi experience

[worthy horizon]

fast track on valerie?

i'll get an upload

[robust nymph]

yes

couldn't clear half bar 1 fast enough before EQ kills her

[worthy horizon]

ah

[robust nymph]

i'm sure it's just bad fast track luck on my part

rock tomb ain't helping

[worthy horizon]

that would be the ex difference

getting to clear bar 1 fast enough to not deal with eq

i tanked one actually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpUmlpIwA4I

[robust nymph]

alright i got it down

i just synced with valerie on half bar 1 before EQ

also got insane potion luck

[worthy horizon]

nice

[heavy sinew]

W

[rocky oasis]

needs mind games on tangela and FT or speedy entry on ss serena for uxie

[rocky oasis]

anyone have a recording of the ss misty team

[bitter gate]

I am a sad man

[median swan]

how hard was the wikstrom one

[bitter gate]

@median swan Uhh, there's a bit of variance but it's quite easy

Essentially, to optimize flinch duration, Roark > Wikstrom > Wikstrom > Roark queue cycles post-flinch allowed me to kill bar 1 without getting synced

and entering bar 2, the quickest way to do it is to flinch the rock slide and brute past the iron defense

but my clear didn't manage to do it

but still cleared

[median swan]

at least it isn't strict. ft2 on wikstrom?

[bitter gate]

King's Shield the third bar Rock Slide and survive and it's good; Fast Track is preferred on Wikstrom but I had MGR2 instead

either works, MPRs on Roark TM help

but make sure your gauge is healthy leading into bar 2

because you're gonna want to blitz

will send you grids in a bit

[median swan]

it's ok i think i can figure it out

i'm moreso wondering if i should go with that or if there's a potential regi team with roark as the damage dealer

but then that probably means using two good supports across both roark and wikstrom so meh

[bitter gate]

I think Regirock mandates supports more than Uxie or Terrakion, ironically

so I think the goal is to minimize supports and ham regirock as much as possible

@median swan are you aiming for a 200+?

[median swan]

goal is 200 but idk if i'll reach it lol

[bitter gate]

gl

[median swan]

already running out of steam

thanks

[bitter gate]

I think I'm capping at 130ish this batch

a big dive from my old caps but

I think I need to prioritze farming + irl is getting busier

[median swan]

good luuuck hope you reach it soon

[bitter gate]

ty ty, your doc has been quite helpful btw

so thanks for the refs

[chrome halo]

i'm cheering for you guys

[bitter gate]

is may/wake like

the new optimal duo or something

for terrakion

[robust nymph]

why does terrakion sometimes wake up in the middle of a sleepchain

is this my skill issue

[bitter gate]

its variance

not your fault

in any case

decided to just say screw it

and do this

[void aspen]

How many tries did that take? I’ve got May EX’d and I’ve been looking for a good partner

[bitter gate]

not a lot. May hits like a truck so the point is to just blitz fast

and flinch at the right time

run refreshing rain for health mainteannce, she can take an earth power comfortably at full

[void aspen]

Good to know

[bitter gate]

Huh.

is this man in the server

[heavy sinew]

Vigi on may?

[bitter gate]

cause Nate/weezing

is something I never thought would work

also yes, vigi on both

[heavy sinew]

darn

Nate weezing hm

support I assume

cause I only have tech

[worthy horizon]

i got may/wake once really easily pre-gauntlet and tried several times and failed during gauntlet

[robust nymph]

vigi LS on both right?

[bitter gate]

yes

[bitter gate]

I think the point is to uhh

[robust nymph]

i wanted to run may hapu but this is much better, i don't trust eva runs anymore

[bitter gate]

don't use rain dance early, save it for the bar 1 kill

I actually only used 3 rain dances

[robust nymph]

the gauges were fine?

[bitter gate]

yes

it's wake + may with RR7

lol

zooms like nothing

I also didn't even sync the second bar

I just killed it with like 5 muddy waters

[worthy horizon]

yeah nothing could give more gauge than wake

[bitter gate]

cause may hits so hard

I was surprised

i didn't even have anything miss either

[worthy horizon]

without move gauge acceleration or some shit

[bitter gate]

Has no one done Whitney yet

as in base Whitney

[worthy horizon]

i did whitney + lodge wally

vs terrak

[bitter gate]

Oh

there have been many lodge wally variants

of terrakion

didn't know whitney was one of them lol

[thick dawn]

this is the team I keep coming back to for may but never wanna do it because surely there's a better partner!

the 59 scroll-throughs of my roster say otherwise

[bitter gate]

sometimes the point is to not give in too hard tbh

I keep reserving my Red/Gladion duo

because I wanted a cheaper option

analysis paralysis is bad for you

and all the pros are doing standard comps anyway

this is my problem with SS Kris + Lodge May too

seems like an easy duo but "is there a cheaper option" always comes bcak

[thick dawn]

I think for this LG decision paralysis is both at an all time high, and excuseable

feels very unintuitive to build teams

[bitter gate]

definitely, Regirock is also the blind spot

because "it's the easiest"

whne probably uxie is the easiest

[worthy horizon]

what else are you doing with lodge may is the thing

[bitter gate]

possibly cheap trio

[thick dawn]

yeah I was gonna say I did not feel any qualms about that duo

lodge may is dookie!

[bitter gate]

i do because my Kris is expanded and I'm not sure if I can be assed to try that dreaded solo

NC bede is another one

everyone's throwing him to Uxie but is there a better terrrakion duo with him

etc

[heavy sinew]

is it really that bad?

[worthy horizon]

just get infinite rain mpr

[bitter gate]

and stuns

but yeah, I'll give it a try first

I have a 1/5 SC Irida

that Idk what to throw with

I was thinking Janine

unless someone else knows a better option

[robust nymph]

this LG is too annoying that i don't care about looking for cheaper options

the bosses themselves already give me a headache

[heavy sinew]

I did with iggly

[robust nymph]

where does a 1/5 EX SC Selene go?

[bitter gate]

wait, wat

[bitter gate]

regirock solo

[bitter gate]

is your Irida EXed or

[heavy sinew]

EXr

Possible ex

[bitter gate]

okay yeah mine is completely uninvested

so no

[heavy sinew]

or uninvested too

[worthy horizon]

yeah i'm tired enough by this point that i stopped caring xd

in a lot of ways

[bitter gate]

is that tech igglybuff

or

[heavy sinew]

At the end I had a good chunk of hp

[heavy sinew]

Support

[bitter gate]

where does the paralysis come from

[heavy sinew]

30% paralysis goes a long way

body slam

No?

[bitter gate]

oh I have an egg wigglytuff

is it a bad idea to evolve it or something

[heavy sinew]

It doesn't get body slam after you evolve it

If you're willing to keep it as an iggly for the paralysis go ahead

[bitter gate]

i'll try chansey or something then

[heavy sinew]

that's fine

[bitter gate]

I hope you're right on this, lol

or this is gonna be another dose of hell, idk

[heavy sinew]

I'd save the B move for bar 3 thunder

[bitter gate]

ik

[heavy sinew]

my dumbass wasted one of them on bar 2 when uxie was about to sync

but it is really helpful

[bitter gate]

@heavy sinew well I'll be

thanks

Irida is a balanced pair

[heavy sinew]

ayyy nice

yea she's very funny

I did forget she had attack trap and got scared when it applied on bar 1

[stuck mantle]

Irida 3/5 can do it solo no extra

I did this round

[heavy sinew]

i have her 1/5

obv I would've solo'd if I could

[heavy sinew]

dead mix pulls

sad

[worthy horizon]

btw i did may/wake here video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcHEnuxZLBY and grids here

[river cliff]

Perrserker + Molayne was surprisingly not bad

Perrserker took those hammer arms like a champ

[bitter gate]

Wtf is that

Eve + Golbat

Synchro healing is balanced

Also I decided that rose solo was not worth

And just threw some trash

[worthy horizon]

i saw jp volo fan get the glacia solo a few days ago and i still haven't gotten over it

[bitter gate]

Glacia solo is more or less a patience check

Also anyone used SS acerola?

Am thinking of either a Hilda duo or a Irida duo

[dawn plume]

ss acerola + mallow is an overkill terrakion duo

[river cliff]

So close

[bitter gate]

My acerola is 1/5 tho

I has returned to the board

With a stinky ratio

[robust nymph]

does this work with ss ace 1/5?

and my mallow isn't EX'd

i tried the other day but the lack of healing after grassy terrain runs out hurts

[karmic willow]

You cannot extend terrain so no lol

[robust nymph]

[bright brook]

any ideas for a 1/5 ss korrina partner on uxie?

[worthy horizon]

some tank that deals status if no one's going to give you a better answer (i don't have her lol)

that would be my starting point

bc for her specifically it def wouldn't need to be a support but some defensive tech would seem to be enough

couldn't name any that i could confidently say would work so you'd have to test

[karmic willow]

raticate for def down idk

or

think of her more ass a crit support that can deal damage

[chrome halo]

status condition where

ig tech Venomoth?

[karmic willow]

o yeah that works too

[bright brook]

Yea just pulled her off dailies so. Didnt have her before and def didnt have her planned

I dont think def debuff alone would be enough but ig that's my starting point

[quaint tartan]

Tech venomoth imo, but I’m not for hardcore clears this rotation

Im already in random bullshit go phase

[rocky oasis]

finding a duo for calem sucked

vs uxie

can anyone link me to a ss misty / quaxky clear

[bright brook]

https://youtu.be/C9idFgKdVrM?si=P8WyefafIc76Fexw&t=2134

[karmic willow]

@bright brook good luck with that akari clear

should be easy no?

[bright brook]

wdym good luck

Oh you were checking out my sheet?

if i put on there it means that it was done so

[karmic willow]

yeah and ngl i want more regirock teams

like

if you check mine it literally has a tiny amoutn

[pearl beacon]

Tec parasect, is quite easy

[karmic willow]

tech parasect the goat

but

he's used for akr0

sidney duo if i recall

[pearl beacon]

Than khangaskan is close to it, but it got flinch
Eventually a paramon with dc2, to get rid of def debuffs

[upper lance]

Focus Miss my…

[pearl beacon]

For reference
Ss Korrina 1/5 EX SP3

I ate that sweet iron tail, so dodging it will make it easier

[bright brook]

I think i probably do lickitung

[rigid hill]

Is it possible to beat Regirock with an elite attacker and 2 flinchers? I am having more trouble than expected with Uxie team prep and need to steal supports I had set aside for regirock

[pearl beacon]

Sure, usually you stall a bit on Bar1 then nuke Bar2 and quickly dps bar3

Because from bar2 it gains resistance each time it recovers from status/interferences

[rocky oasis]

depends on the attacker

[river cliff]

The Tate has finally done it. The Sawyer idea was great @worthy horizon

[karmic willow]

nah

the problem with regirock is that

you're wasting TWO flinchers

he gets immunity to flinch post bar 2

like flinch once more and you're up

better save them for terrakion

fighting regirock is like this

if you let it crit shield because you cannot burst it (which, most characters cannot unless they are Steel with lots of damage buffs, or Relentless Techs after 3 sync buffs)

then

you will have to play the long game

dps it out

which is quite boring

since if you take TOO long, his sync will reduce your stats

so when building teams for regirock, you wanna be able to do these things

Option 1: Outsustain the damn thing. A lot of Drain Punch duos have been popping up as of late
Option 2: Blast through bar 2. Use your Last flinch to make sure it does not get crit shield up and kill it bar 3

of course there will be some in betweens

but these are generally my approach

Characters like Olympia are great when fighting Regirock since

she can use evasion hax against it

she can rebuff herself quickly

she can heal herself

not a lot of characters can do those things

also i folded and did SS Acerola solo on Regirock

it's too easy

I am still in search of regirock clears

28 left

[loud shell]

What do you have left?

[karmic willow]

oh i mean

28 whole combinations left not found

i have about 140 ish units left

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JIIcaOiLIMZkdvXbz_kv154n7exqQH80dxn6rrdgqS0/edit?gid=937651758#gid=937651758

doc is still here if you wanna see the process

it's not going to move any time soon

any new clear i do on terrakion is gonna be hell

like

i have so many paralyzers left

but not nearly enough pairs that can handle regirock

seriously thinking about pivoting elaine to regirock

and even sycamore

which makes egg dragonite a really bad option left because he'd be teamless

[river cliff]

You can always rock the striker dragonite for that 30% flinch

[loud shell]

That’s really hard to follow tbh

Lot of well laid out info but hard to follow

[karmic willow]

wdym\

like

if you look at the current one

got icons and stuff

[loud shell]

The frequent one I saw for this gauntlet didn’t use icons and had every line a different color

Good info just hard for me to follow cause I didn’t make it is all

[karmic willow]

best i can do chief

most docs are

to each their own

Naomi got the teams and grids but no comments

for example

akr0 got diffculty and comments and grid which is

quite detailed

for me i just go fuck it we ball mostly what units does what to help with planning

[loud shell]

Wait am dumb

Was using viewing 14 by mistake

[karmic willow]

if no comment that means that the unit has... 0 utility just buff damage or just damage\

like stat sticks

and well, I kinda remember what does what at this point

[loud shell]

I assume the ones at the top are the free ones?

[karmic willow]

yup

those are in planning

[rigid hill]

@karmic willow the problem is I did all my testing for terrakion first and I don't want to steal unitd from established clears

But inevitably I will have to I guess

[karmic willow]

guess?

[pearl beacon]

People share stuff to help each others, more like an hive mind lol
There's no shame in getting some help

[rigid hill]

Well I will do what I can making teams for regi and uxie without stealing from my terrakion teams

I'm a top 500 clearer not a top 100 clearer so I don't go for the insane clears discussed here

I also hoard candies so I have less 3/5 limiteds than most

[pearl beacon]

Try being creative the first week by your own
The second week look around for nuce comps
The third dump everythingn, time is running

When I have not much time I try to follow this pattern

[karmic willow]

for me

first week just do auto clears lol

let people cook

or do established clears that are not frustrating

[pearl beacon]

Yeah, solid clears are extra worth. Just cutting off most of your roster

Terrakion breaking the chain jumpscare

[robust nymph]

any terrakion teams for ghetsis?

[robust nymph]

i'm glad i'm not the only one, i'm starting to doubt my sleepchaining skills (or lack thereof)

[kind imp]

Skyla

[robust nymph]

[pearl beacon]

Ye it's not too much abt skill on Terrakion
Chains are inconsistent, randomly waking up before the enabler move, which is the whole point of chains
Bar3 is often a nightmare

It can break from Ramos+Korrina which is one of the safest runs

[sturdy steeple]

I haven't progressed in a day and a half partly due to terrakion waking up from sleepchain

[robust nymph]

so it's just a terrakion issue?

[sturdy steeple]

I don't think so, it's kinda standard with 2v1 sleep chains

The bad thing about terrak is it fucking one shots you

And you got that DR to bust thru , on the bar where it's the strongest

[robust nymph]

yeah i guess i've had inconsistent chains with other LAs

but terrakion is a fucking nightmare

[lost juniper]

That's why I'm not doing these brute force chains

I'd be driven to madness

[pearl beacon]

Kinda
Others stages may have a chance to break free, I had some notes abt
Feel like they're getting a lucky sleep roll so they insta recover
But some chains are usually extra safe bcs of the timings (quick sleeper move and long enabler move)
And it's easy to have perfect runs with them
But here on terrakion since the start they tend to break

[pearl beacon]

Yeah, break once and you die

[sturdy steeple]

Gonna have to break apart some teams just so I can finish my streak on time I stg

[pearl beacon]

Not playing much but those worked well enough
Bede had just some gauge issues but manageable with ft2

The usual slow clears aren't working, they give too many chance for Terra to break
Victreebell TL Gloria
Ramos Korrina

[robust nymph]

yeah, i don't think i want to do weatherless sleepchains on terrakion

i break enough as it is

[sturdy steeple]

I have that Bede one planned too

[rocky oasis]

having issues w/ terrak breaking out of flinch earlier too

[robust nymph]

bede tanks i assume

[pearl beacon]

If it can help I let swift hit on bar2
It does peanut damage n remove sure crit if your egg has no vigilance

I run speed entry on exegg

[pearl beacon]

No, exegg
Bede gets -2 def from his tm

[robust nymph]

ah, mine's 3/5 so i always pick up unbending on him

i tried bede + flincher before but gauge was rough

fast track works ofc but then there's the issue of crits that still hurt

i hate terrakion

[pearl beacon]

Ye, he's not really fast

At 3/5 you got some nice tools mainly gobsmack so you can kill qiickly

I'm looking for other max move or single terrain users for similar clears

[karmic willow]

SAME

like

oh my god

that one clear with exeggutor

and burgh

took me so many tries

and even then

the burgh one is easy

because you can rely on his stat drops

the other ones are literally ride or DIE

[robust nymph]

i've been trying variety lucas with serena

and serena is ground weak

and lucas is rock weak

amazing

[karmic willow]

loveless

that clear is also ride or die

but

v lucas

no speed buffs right?

[robust nymph]

v lucas drops attack, so that's fine

i have fast track on him

gauge suffers otherwise

i have fast track on serena too

bar 1 is simple. bar 2 is hell

because i have no way to debuff sp atk and the earth power WILL oneshot

stat leech is too unreliable

[karmic willow]

if you wanna cook

serena and flareon

speed from flame charge lmfaooooo

[robust nymph]

which flareon

egg?

[pearl beacon]

Ember mgr play📈

[robust nymph]

yeah for bar 1 i was basically clicking ember

by bar 2 i'll have enough gauge to spam overheat and heat wave

then whoops, terrakion breaks free from the chain and i have no clue what i did wrong

[pearl beacon]

Enablers in shambles

[heavy sinew]

Rock weak duo

[feral plank]

who could i use with ss hilda to duo in uxie? 3/5 EX no r so can't solo

[young forge]

Wouldn’t Tech Seaking do the same thing, or is Wake contributing more than just flinch?

[bitter gate]

mostly making the gauge not shit

especially with bulldoze debuffs

but if tech seaking works, go ahead

just that your rate is worse

can someone give a guide on riley + machamp

[river cliff]

With all these sleep chain horror stories, I'm getting tempted to start trying stuff like the ancient Elio + BP Sophocles clear on Regirock

[karmic willow]

do not use Riley TM before Regirock's 1st sync

and then just iron tail

bar 2 max move iron tail to skip the entire thing

@bitter gate you CAN see my messages right?

[rocky oasis]

what

I used his TM asap

bc he needs the bulk

[river cliff]

Same. I just used the strat skippingmud used

[feral plank]

tl dawn solo on uxie can be auto'd right?

[dawn plume]

when im using jasmine on regirock when am i supposed to be using her tm

i was using it on bar 1 to block crits but i’m usually out by bar 2 where i feel like i need it more

[feral plank]

i can believe i dodged every single iron tail

[karmic willow]

you'd kill him too quick for halfbar and stuff

[pliant glen]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonMasters/comments/1dgihe0/i_think_i_found_the_fastest_team_to_farm_lg/

[dawn plume]

jacq is jacqing

[kind imp]

Zerena on latios was fast but that's insane

[dawn plume]

pls help

[rocky oasis]

didnt have s issue

[heavy sinew]

bro one shots bars like its nothing

[river cliff]

You have him EXR?

[dawn plume]

nvm i got it

used it 2nd half bar 1 and got 2 mprs

[feral plank]

jasmine clear?

[lost juniper]

Terrakion LA in 3 hits

[pliant glen]

SS Lana is doing the carrying here tbh, AI can't fight Terrakion for crud without WTZ + Extension

[dawn plume]

yeah w supp primeape

lana wins by doing absolutely nothing

[kind imp]

kinda, for slower clears it works

lucian can still one shot bar 2 and two shot bar 3 with sync

cerena can two shot bar 3 in case ss kris doesn't get rain mpr

[lost juniper]

For sure. AI is idiotic

[pliant glen]

It's merely outdated, although DeNA does seem to program it to be able to solve problematic passives like Healthy Advantage where it will apply status

Generally it's plan is Gauge > Buffs > Stat drops (hence Anni Lillie using Moonblast, 20% chance to drop Special Attack) > Damaging

It's kind of tricky since some otherwise good Supports or Strikers are unuseable because they have stuff like 10% chance to drop speed

Unless it's on-type in which they just go for damage usually

[kind imp]

and the order of buffs is from the one that buffs most to least

so i was thinking if buffs=debuffs

but debuffs are usually less stats
and also noticed that above x damage it goes for damage, so when ssa cynthia gives +2 pmun to ss lana it prioritizes it over

[heavy sinew]

did y'all use lodge lillie yet?

and who did you use her with

[kind imp]

kali on terrakion

[pliant glen]

I still haven't started might do 100 and dip this time idk guys...

Not farmilliar with Terrakion's game

Regirock sucks too

[heavy sinew]

how does that work

no crit

[kind imp]

mind games

[heavy sinew]

i have it on lillie

[kind imp]

from naomi

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=065300018400&s0=5&l0=150&r0=5&p0=20&a0=18046402&t0=111&g0=AAECAwQFBggKCw0QExYXGBob&v1=011800076400&s1=5&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=18040502&t1=11111&g1=AAECAwQFCAsNDhAjJScqLS4&v2=0

[heavy sinew]

damn

[kind imp]

i had it on lillie too

so i gave ft2 to kali instead

and it worked too

[feral plank]

how does the sc diantha and tech gyara clear work, flinch and set up rain in bar 2 and 3?

[kind imp]

ye

[heavy sinew]

how many TMs from kali?

[feral plank]

i'll give it a go

[kind imp]

i just resetted for one at the start

i only lost to too many stone edge crits and bad gauge rng(mgr+ft2 rng)

[heavy sinew]

unlucky earth power crit

unlucky stone edge crit

unlucky stone edge crit again

and swift crit

why

[dawn plume]

stone edge has a 50% crit rate lol

its not that unlucky to lose a coin flip

[heavy sinew]

feels like 100%

[rocky oasis]

anyone have the caitlin / espeon team

[kind imp]

nvm

i got it done quick, so i think i got lucky with catalytic procs?

[heavy sinew]

1 sync away

NOOOOOO

crit earth power on bar 3

this all just happens to me

[pearl beacon]

I swear the starting rock smash is 100% lol

[heavy sinew]

it is

mistake cost me the entire run at the end

what the hell

[drifting talon]

Yoinking15: May and Crasher Wake vs Terrakion

[feral plank]

i swear tech gyarados is flinching less than sc diantha bro, i can't believe every time i need to flinch the earthquake it doesnt

[drifting talon]

Should I use physical or special OG Wally vs Regirock?

[river cliff]

Probably physical?

[heavy sinew]

special at the beginning, phys at the end

[drifting talon]

Oh. Then what kind of grid would that look like?

[karmic willow]

damn\

nitsua is that you

[dawn plume]

died 2024 joined 2024 welcome back nitsua gamer

[river cliff]

I'm glad my cute Uxie clear finally worked. Long live the awkward non-self sufficient 4 bar striker

[stuck mantle]

Hmm no status condition is pain uxie🤣

[river cliff]

Not too bad since you can rush down the second part of bar 1 pretty well once you've gotten all your debuffs and buffs going

It'd be much better with 5/5 Lance tho

[sturdy steeple]

Jacqing it, and by it, heh, I mean terrakion

[heavy sinew]

True

Factual

I agree

[young forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9idFgKdVrM

In case this helps anyone, I was able to complete the Riley / Support Machamp duo (Machamp as Tactics 1) with an alternate strategy. I followed @bright brook ‘s video but I used 4* Machamp with Sentry Entry 2 to survive the first sync, instead of 5* Machamp

[dawn plume]

gary i need regirock duos

[heavy sinew]

chowder pass me terrakion teams that don't require wtz

[river cliff]

Are there any good SS N Terrakion clears?

[worthy horizon]

not completely sure this will work but this is what i'm working on

i used bp olivia for 1/5 ss n

[river cliff]

Hm that's not bad

I might have to bring out the tech Dewgong for some freeze gaming on another team in that case

[lost juniper]

Rafa did SS N + flincher

[heavy sinew]

With 5/5 SS n

I assume

[river cliff]

I'd imagine it wouldn't be terrible even with 1/5 N

[karmic willow]

Ugh

@sturdy steeple

Who can raise accuracy

For team bc

Elio messes up once and

It's game over

Or lower evasion by one or two

I am doing the elio duo

[sturdy steeple]

I did units who can lower Eva*

Aka either Petey or Katherine

[karmic willow]

Sc Rosa....

Dawn has impose 1

[karmic willow]

Imma do petey

Katherine's debuffs make her a win condition without sleep

[river cliff]

I'm just going to throw him onto Regirock

[karmic willow]

Why?

Also

Damn

Only 4 units have hem in

[river cliff]

Because I need more Regirock teams and the duo with BP Sophocles is funny

[karmic willow]

Tl volkner... Pass

His speed is way too trash

@sturdy steeple

Thanks for the reminder

[sturdy steeple]

Np

[karmic willow]

Couldn't have done it without you birthday gal

[sturdy steeple]

[karmic willow]

that was

first try even

the order was

elecweb - sleep elec web - sparkling - elec web - sleep

doesn't fail at all

also once you get to half bar

it's far easier since

no earthquake to threat petey

oh right

@sturdy steeple have you done the naomi acerola duo yettt

[sturdy steeple]

No I'm using tl Rika instead of Naomi

[loud shell]

Variety Kris also has the ability to debuff evasion innately

[karmic willow]

TL Rika?

mmmm

that could work

then

where does naomi go

it's hard to imagine...

imagine naomi benching naomi

[worthy horizon]

why not bertha

[karmic willow]

i do think about that too

[karmic willow]

yes but

A) She can solo uxie

B) discharge can paralyze unlike electroweb

the petey loop is much safer

with some room for error in bar 2 and 3

bar 1 petey will barely live one bulldoze

[worthy horizon]

tho bertha can duo with support marowak and potentially solo with enough sandstorm mpr

[karmic willow]

from this clear on

i might just

[worthy horizon]

eggmon duo still requires a lot of luck

[karmic willow]

well

do petey

and elio

from now on

sorry elio x korrina gang

[river cliff]

I might have to try that

[rocky oasis]

anyone got the caitlin / espeon ir ss misty / quaxly teams

[heavy sinew]

I got SS misty

copied off Naomi's grid

pray you dodge enough to keep yourself alive under rain

[karmic willow]

T

[worthy horizon]

yeah i've tried bertha/support maro without success but you don't always want to be picking the most time-consuming comps lol

[rocky oasis]

do you use rain on bar 1

[karmic willow]

Another regirock slain

[heavy sinew]

No

Sync 2 or 3 times on bar 1

First quax, then misty

You start using rain on bar 2

Sometimes you don't one shot the bars because of not enough sp attack buffs

so you prob need to reset for some buffs from smart infliction

[karmic willow]

106 178

Not bad huh

[worthy horizon]

oh also if you want to make it happen you probably want at least +2e

[karmic willow]

mmmm

@sturdy steeple think you can whip up a clear for whitney on regirock?

i mean

she CAN flinch

but her nuke is para so like

bar 2 is gonna be super weird for hrr

[worthy horizon]

grid i was using was this

[sturdy steeple]

I plan to yeah

[karmic willow]

oh

you got

whitney and marnie

nice

i wish i have

bruno and lorelei

the variety ones

god i need more supports 😦

even at 1/5 v lorelei decimates regirock

@sturdy steeple is noland a cheap duo for aaron solo?

i hate that clear so much aaaaaa

[sturdy steeple]

Oh I did that already yeah lol

[sturdy steeple]

No he's not

[karmic willow]

mannnn

[kind imp]

hitmonlee?

[karmic willow]

anyone who is

actually cheap?

[karmic willow]

ssa cynthia took hitmonlee

and well

LE"TS GO GAMBLING with her

literally

you have a

90% accruate move

[sturdy steeple]

Literally anyone would help, especially if it's a speed buffing egg

[karmic willow]

mmmmmmmm

@sturdy steeple alright lemme cook here but

mespirit

and lodge marnie

works?

[sturdy steeple]

I dunno

[karmic willow]

only one way to find out it seems

[sturdy steeple]

Marnie weak to psychic tho b careful

[rocky oasis]

tried the espeon / caitlin duo

espeon keeps dying

[karmic willow]

we'll see about it

[rocky oasis]

idk how yall are doing it?

[dawn plume]

iirc you need to put up terrain before caitlin's first sync

and it will barely take out the bar from above half

skipping half bar

[rocky oasis]

expected as much

[river cliff]

Perfect, I've already got that on her. The only slight conflict is that I was planning on using Marowak with lodge Serena, but I'm sure someone else can help with that

[pearl beacon]

Looks mostly catalytic cure run, that's mist of it
And tm mprs 🎲

[karmic willow]

alrigbt

237

[rocky oasis]

ik. i just wanna see how people keep the damn eggmon alive

this thing is so squishy

[karmic willow]

elaineee....

[heavy sinew]

I did it with SS lusa so I can't say much

[rocky oasis]

either bar 1 kills or bar 2 ugh

[karmic willow]

Mmmmm

Anyone that is good on

Penny duo vs uxie?

Like i need something to kill the entire bar 1

Ugh

Using drasna might be overkill?

@sturdy steeple what do you think?

[sturdy steeple]

Yes it's overkill but I got tired of being hit by iron tails

[pearl beacon]

Time to 5*

Not exchanging is doing it for me, even if it's just 20 defs and 40hp means a lot if you mix that with good gears

Kinda tempted to slap 1/5 ncBianca with butterfree on terrakion
That thing is damn slow, how dare they release such a bad sleepr

[rocky oasis]

ok did it

still a little baffled by the quaxly duo

[karmic willow]

Gughhhhh

Rafaaaaaaaa

I got hit by crit psychic sync after this

Thank god marnie lived

But yeah

It is doable alright

Marnie ex nuke kinda lit

[loud shell]

I really need to invest in the lodge techs at this point

[karmic willow]

Do rosa first

She shreds entei

She shreds regirock

Registeel

Even terrakion folds before her might when paired with winona

[rocky oasis]

only if youre going for massive streaks

honestly exing all supports and techs are a priority if you are

[karmic willow]

Ex lodge Rosaaaaa

Trust the process

[pearl beacon]

Overall supports are so good
But then yeah Rosa Serena Lillie are great

[rocky oasis]

ex TL serena hits like a truck

[pearl beacon]

Idk abt the newer one, forgot to look at cheren
He's 1/5 lvl1 somewhere

[river cliff]

Silver becomes much more manageable too

[heavy sinew]

Speaking of, are y'all using her on Uxie or terra?

[worthy horizon]

i brought my lodge cheren to 5/5 just to grid him and i had the candies

[rocky oasis]

uxie

[worthy horizon]

he's still level 1 though

[rocky oasis]

i aint got the time to do her w/ terrakion

[worthy horizon]

i wouldn't want to let overwhelm go to waste so easily

[rocky oasis]

too late

im tired of terrakion

[karmic willow]

I

Hate

The friggin

Tech slowbro

So much

[pearl beacon]

TLRika looks good
Cheren looks fine i guess, not a fan of the double aggravation ooffs

[karmic willow]

He's the biggest fraud

Ever

Fuuuuu

[pearl beacon]

[karmic willow]

Like

Missing

[rocky oasis]

tech slowbro cant run vigilance and it sucks

[karmic willow]

And he does NOT flinch

I swear

[rocky oasis]

that or you drop PPE

[karmic willow]

I had such a good tỉm with

[rocky oasis]

and that sucks

[karmic willow]

Alakazam

[rocky oasis]

the extra 20% is super noticable

[pearl beacon]

Alakazam is so good, also aggra 2

At least the bro it's not like tech seaking, got some regen

[karmic willow]

Like

Fucking hell i JUST need

the minimal amount

Still no work

[rocky oasis]

why does it feel like alakazam getting x regen was a accident

from DENA

[karmic willow]

It's too good to be true

[rocky oasis]

Like we've never gotten anything that good again

[karmic willow]

Fucker misses

Every move

Damn you slowbro

[heavy sinew]

Compensating from 90% acc zenbutt

[river cliff]

Anyone messed with Mallow on Terrakion?

[loud shell]

I finished my clears at 147. All my five star supports and most limited are 6*. Lodge is my next step since they drip feed us the gen pool exs

[rocky oasis]

the uptick in performance is def noticable imo

[pearl beacon]

Kinda wanted to sleepchain w her (mine isnt ex)
But in the end went to uxie for comroft run

[karmic willow]

PIECE OF

Giinshsuwijdjfn

LIKE

Missing the LAST flinch

1000 cookies

No pinpoint 2

I quit

This game is depressinf

All the hard work autoing

Gone

Just like that

Because i cannot get one godforsaken lucky skill

[river cliff]

I feel that

[karmic willow]

This

And fucking sharp entry 1 on Lana

Can go to hell

ONE THOUSAND

AND FIVE HUNDRED THIRTY COOKIES

[young forge]

Does Ssr Cynthia have an egg mon duo with Uxie?

[karmic willow]

Fuck this game

If pokemon food are a thing

I swear to god

I will hunt down every single slowbro

Chop off their tail

And feed it to them

I don't care if they can regenerate that shit

[pearl beacon]

Forgot to swap mind games from Leaf, still won

[young forge]

I’ve done Penny / Surge duo vs Uxie

[dense yew]

Am I crazy or did Regirock get Unflappable once you hit third bar?

[pearl beacon]

From bar2 on he gets immunity once he recovers

[dense yew]

Oh wonderful.

[pearl beacon]

Same for sleep

[karmic willow]

Of fucking course

I cannot even crit on my sync

Because nooooooo

Lear is just being a petty prick

Because i could not afford +8e for him

I give up

This duo is impossible

[void aspen]

Does anyone have a good cheap partner for non EX Jasmine against Regirock?

[loud shell]

Which one?

Depending on how willing you are to run a crit eggmon support perrserker or primeape come to mind

[void aspen]

Steelix

Yes I’m fine using a crit eggmon I’m not going to get very far either way

[worthy horizon]

i haven't seen any existing but it definitely can't be impossible

[kind imp]

I remember hearing parasect

[loud shell]

That sounds about right. Paralysis and crit debuffs then nuke bar 2

[river cliff]

Pretty much any statuser will work

Anyone tried Clay on Uxie? I'm considering trying him with NC Cheren but he's only 1/5

[raven crane]

I interpreted that as Clay being 1/5 for a second, lmao.

[river cliff]

I'd be pretty proud of owning 1/5 Clay if I'd managed to be that unlucky

[pearl beacon]

He's more spdef oriented, not going to survive bar1

[river cliff]

Three uses of endure tho if Cheren can dish out enough damage

[pearl beacon]

All of this to survive bar1, you still have another full bar and need to apply 30% poison on bar3
Looks hell

[young forge]

Yes, i did Kiawe / Clay duo in LG12, since Clay has poison on grid

[river cliff]

I managed to pull it off using him to tank for SS Serena, so someone with a similar amount of power would work

[river cliff]

I'm probably going to use Kiawe for Regirock

[young forge]

Does Kiawe have anything special for Regirock?

[river cliff]

He can solo it, but I'll probably use a random striker to make it easier. I value Regirock clears more than Uxie atm

Though that's not a bad idea for an Uxie clear. I might wait on both of them to see where I end up

[pearl beacon]

Uxie got boned tecently iirc

+4E

[dawn plume]

devs making kiawe's mgr3 tiles 10 energy as a sick joke

[river cliff]

Dang, I never noticed that, what were they thinking

[kind imp]

Clemont mh1 tile is 13 energy

Sycamore's is 8 energy and he has two of them

[hallow gull]

Remember Flint too

[river cliff]

Flint's grid is just depressing, and for multiple reasons

[rocky oasis]

suprisingly finicky duo

stoic on marley

[rocky oasis]

7.5 k orbs down the drain and he Cant even hit fire blast 100% of the time

[river cliff]

I had to roll pe2 on the man

[rocky oasis]

im still trying to get it

but it aint happening

[river cliff]

I spent half of lg 13 farming as many of the entry skills as I could

I still need speedy entry on Sidney and sharp entry on Jasmine

[dawn plume]

anyone got a video of viola/helena

i did it 6 months ago but i cant replicate it for the life of me

annoying ass clear

[sturdy steeple]

may i ask why speedy entry on sidney?

[worthy horizon]

viola/helena is mostly on getting helena to dodge enough i feel like

from azzy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5krRH3dt0c&t=6870s

[dawn plume]

found it yeah

insane on a roll luck

thats very cool

[sturdy steeple]

skill gear makes it so you dont need to dodge

[worthy horizon]

mine wasn't good enough that time

also only lv 140

[dawn plume]

finally got it

yeah i needed to dodge

and good oar luck

i need to make better skill gear zzzz

[worthy horizon]

got it for free pre-gauntlet (twice, even) and struggled to replicate it

[river cliff]

I saw that when skippingmud ran him with Parasect it was run on him due to gauge issues. Plus speedy entry is never a bad idea on mega evolving pairs

[sturdy steeple]

ah well with that duo i guess, but sidney normally never has gauge issues if hes attacking constantly

[river cliff]

True

[sturdy steeple]

if you get like wise or sentry entry, those are great for him

[river cliff]

I keep rolling fierce and grand entry

[sturdy steeple]

he runs stoic in some solos, +4 def real quick would be nice

[worthy horizon]

i was able to keep wise entry when rolling for speedy which was nice

i'm rewatching my recording and it does look like you can get away without it yeah

excess of gauge more often than not

but i never tested without it

[river cliff]

I've seen some people get away with not using it, but I'm not going to say no to making something easier if I'm given the opportunity

[worthy horizon]

yeah when you have the resources it's easier to just copy and not have to think about it and i'm not super used to using sidney

[sterile frost]

Wiks 4*, no Rachel'sTm MPR lol, thank Quaggles

[young forge]

For BP Barry + Gardenia vs Uxie, is it better to spam Stun Spore and nuke, or attack with Leaf Storm? I tried spamming, but Gardenia took too much damage in Bar 1 from sync moves

[sturdy steeple]

you want to use absorb for her to not die

[median swan]

does maylene supp weezing need like a bunch of tm mprs

i don't see how else her gauge could keep up in bar 3

[dawn plume]

from what i understand yes

lemme not get in trouble actually

[river cliff]

I think I had her at +4 speed when I won. I tanked with Weezing to soak speed debuffs but I don't think that was at all worth it

[worthy horizon]

hm

was planning bp clemont + volkner for uxie but it actually looks like it'll work on terrakion

slapped ground guard on both

they survive

-1 uxie team

[karmic willow]

Yessssssssssss

Even with +6 and +4

Gauge still sucked

At the end only the eggmon got to move

Spamming confuse and headbutt

I was panicking so friggin badly

Can anyone tell me

If support golem can replace support onix?

Functionally

[worthy horizon]

you're trading rock tomb for ancient power, completely identical otherwise it looks like

golem has ancient power

[karmic willow]

Alright

Hilda duo with golem it is

As much as I like Hilda

+10E is too much of a big ask rn

Sorrt

Maybe in the future i will for Hilda

[bitter gate]

not really, you have to hope that EQ is dodged meaning that you're playing with a much squishier unit

• onix has innate vigilance, such that most of the clears run healthy healing on Onix for a much healthier rotation

i tried it at least

short of incredible RNG it'll be a pain

and since i lack support onix I just throw cloyster at her instead

[worthy horizon]

right i only looked at moves

[bitter gate]

onix is ground weak, ye

im actually tempted to just brute on 3 teamers

because there's only 10 days left, i need to farm

and im tilted lol

im actually tempted to just do the bede solo on regirock

[worthy horizon]

maybe i'll leave 3 days for farming

[karmic willow]

Do it smh

[river cliff]

What grids are you rocking?

[worthy horizon]

sec

[bitter gate]

sounds like a gauge disaster but otherwise seems good

I did bp clemont + bea on uxie, actually

[worthy horizon]

screech charging infliction spam

this is what i'd run

[river cliff]

Interesting. I wonder how many electric terrains it needs

[karmic willow]

Man

I like how ball guy

Has some of the cheapest tiles

Like you deadass cannot look at me and tell

20 hp and 20 sp.def for 2 energy is not a complete steal

[worthy horizon]

3 mprs would sound like a solid amount to me

[karmic willow]

Freesest +4E or me