Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)

[modest oar]

And denying the sides as they die

Only thing I'm struggling is to get the range for bar skip

[pearl beacon]

5/5?

[sturdy steeple]

I believe in youuu

[modest oar]

5/5 EX R +10e

[karmic willow]

HUH?

wait how does it kill sides

[true tartan]

by pressing V Create lol

[modest oar]

That or Searing Shot if I sync to below half

I need to make sure Latias uses tk before I kill Alakazam

[true tartan]

making it waste as many moves as possible lol

[karmic willow]

i see

[worthy horizon]

https://youtu.be/hJ9zLTMFoFI

[true tartan]

what's the grid

[worthy horizon]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/29500/97000?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=18114009&g=AAECAwQFBg8RExYXGxweISQu

very many runs got filtered out by poison jab poison

did a lot of attempts with quaggles' grid

[true tartan]

thanks lol

approaching with a different one sometimes is the answer

still waiting for someone to lower SC Selene on Moltres to just 3/5 EX

[worthy horizon]

oh yea i intended to post the grid in the comments and just realized i completely forgot

it's there now

[vagrant crypt]

👏

[modest oar]

How were your attempts of CSerena VS Registeel?

[vagrant crypt]

Disastrous...
I'll try again later.

[worthy horizon]

also it was lv 150 ex, i didn't specify on the grid or anywhere so i fixed that too

[loud shell]

Mixed decided I needed ice Steven at 5/5 today. Is there any solos he could nab with +10 energy?

[modest oar]

Raikou maybe?

[kind imp]

he can do this with +10

but freeze burn/no quarter/stoic doesn't seem that good, i wouldn't spend 80k/100k orbs to get one of them

[shy sinew]

he really doesn't have aggravation anywhere on his grid? wow what a 2020 unit

[heavy sinew]

The 2020 unit of all time

[shy sinew]

so real, glad to see I'm not missing much by not having him

[kind imp]

i have him 1/5

he has perma hail and is self-sufficient, that's kinda it

[heavy sinew]

I have him 2/5

He's there

[worthy horizon]

i did think dana/melony could clear tornadus with perma hail

no summer steven means i never got the chance to test

[heavy sinew]

3/5 Dana?

Or is 1/5 enough

[loud shell]

I usually use him as a duo with glacia. Less so post grid expansion

I think 3/5 is the healing hail tile

[worthy horizon]

3/5 dana for the hail tiles

[heavy sinew]

Oh a trio with steven

hmmm

[worthy horizon]

nope duo

[loud shell]

Melony definitely might be easier

Team sync regen safeguard and max move help a lot

[worthy horizon]

but yea either one or glacia would be good at abusing perma hail to clear a bunch of stuff

[heavy sinew]

Wait but where does hail come from

[kind imp]

steven sync

[loud shell]

Summer Steven

[heavy sinew]

I may be stupid

[kind imp]

the hardest part would be bar 1

[loud shell]

I mean frost breath or ice beam would definitely help

Could also burn max move bar 1 to get faster

[kind imp]

forgor

[heavy sinew]

I think it's better to use it on bar 3

[loud shell]

Does it bypass robust physique? I forget

[kind imp]

iirc yes

leon and gordie also duo torn paralysis-less with their max moves

[loud shell]

I take it rebuff boosted inferno does a lot of heavy lifting bar 1?

[kind imp]

idk

ah sorry

they duo separetly

[loud shell]

Ah

I misread then

Cause that sounds really cool if they duo

[worthy horizon]

gordie did it with bp olivia and i think no one figured out how that was possible

dunno any other existing no-para duos w/ him

[loud shell]

I mean his nuke is ridiculous

Double cakewalk and inertia is really good

[modest oar]

He can max move Bar 3 but that doesn't ignore robust physique

It's probably not terrible once he passes Bar 1

[dawn plume]

damage rush

probably just latios and bulu lol

her tools are not amazing

for LG

but t wave spam and then bonking when gauge is ready hella damage

[modest oar]

Tornadus if you get amazing paralysis luck

[median swan]

^this but coba

[worthy horizon]

she does seem absurdly strong to where those two really aren't out of the question

ft9, charging infliction, endurance being key tiles

imo

[worthy horizon]

her entire sustain is on gradual healing ls and endurance, gets nothing else for survivability

other than the lowering attack tile

[kind imp]

i think stoic works with charging infliction spam

dunno if its better than HH tho

[worthy horizon]

you aren't looking to straight spam it so much as use it between b moves so you'll be waiting out some animation time anyway

still need to spam it at the start to ramp up ft though ig

don't think you'll ever end up dropping gradual healing for solos though

[worthy horizon]

actually surprised with how long geeta cresselia is taking

i'd imagined it'd be better than cobalion without the limit on poison but it's not

[bitter gate]

I'd be surprised if Poppy actually gets lots of solos lol

she's very much reliant on getting the right para hax rolls

Rose at least can fish for stuns and has a bit more bulk to work with

[heavy sinew]

we just have to see how much unga bunga hammer actually does in the game

[worthy horizon]

yep

the safe bet would be on 1 solo lol

[heavy sinew]

imagine it's regirock just cause she can one shot bar 2 and 3

[stuck mantle]

Regi can be para?

[kind imp]

you can

he only recovers with sync cure on bar 2 and 3

but if he recovers he gets immune to it

[stuck mantle]

But dont think she can survive

Since need vigi and stoic in same time

[worthy horizon]

yeah i don't think regirock is on the table

[bitter gate]

watch her defy expectations and get 7 solos

[worthy horizon]

lol

[bitter gate]

Poppy is like a way harsher version of Rose

because Rose at least can do 30% fishing

Poppy has to fish for parahax or she dies, even though she has endurance

[stuck mantle]

Rose have g max

Plus free move

This is shity need use para and b move

Plus rose have flinch.

But poppy will be good for next hse

Electric steel

Is 80% chance

Since we need para as play and we have steel wat can give para

[worthy horizon]

https://youtu.be/_LvS8cDPf1c

2 out of 3

[stuck mantle]

Nice:)

If poppy have steel zone? And recover hp

Then maybe she could do something

[pearl beacon]

I give up for a while
Got a good mpr roll but on Bar3 got frozen twice early ant then THIS happened

2 nat crits and freeze

[karmic willow]

Lfmaoooo

Back to back crits and freeze

The game REALLY does not want you to win

[pearl beacon]

[tender horizon]

No poopy solo

[true tartan]

she did Latios

[stuck mantle]

Who did?

[worthy horizon]

https://vxtwitter.com/MizoreAwayuki/status/1790994451340677405

[stuck mantle]

A snow

[worthy horizon]

wise entry 1

[stuck mantle]

Geeta his traner mive give super effective and 3 up?

Any ally yes

[bitter gate]

Oh yeah

she can abuse that trick

Thunder Wave spam for animations and gauge

[worthy horizon]

stoic would slow it down too

[bitter gate]

She probably still needs it in some places

but like, its still quite tight here

not as RNG as Rose but still, quite tight

[worthy horizon]

well there's her 1 realistic solo

anything more is actually a stretch

[bitter gate]

https://twitter.com/MizoreAwayuki/status/1791008494709329941/photo/1

Ｓｎｏｗ／淡雪 (@MizoreAwayuki) on X

普通に破壊できましてよ！１

Twitter · May 16, 2024, 7:31 AM

The fuck/

did he actually do Cob already?

[worthy horizon]

lmfao

[bitter gate]

unspecified if it's VH but still

[stuck mantle]

If is 3/5 so he may dont use extra energy

Alot para luck maybe?

[bitter gate]

no it's not 3/5

it's 4/5

because of the attack drop

[stuck mantle]

He latios was 3/5?

[bitter gate]

yeah

[stuck mantle]

So how now is 4/5?

[bitter gate]

because the attack drop node

[stuck mantle]

He also have more accounts?

[bitter gate]

on thunder wave

is 4/5 only

[worthy horizon]

upgraded for cobalion

[bitter gate]

unless you got like stupidly lucky

with the Play Rough 10%s lmao

[stuck mantle]

Then why dont use 4/5 on latios already lol

Dont get it

[bitter gate]

because minimum threshold

[true tartan]

expected the coba too lol

[bitter gate]

but yeah he ran Stoic on her too

[true tartan]

he is so weak to paralysis

[bitter gate]

@true tartan What else are you expecting

[true tartan]

bulu

[bitter gate]

I'd say there might be a world where Bulu is doable?

because she cna just

oneshot the third bar

[true tartan]

I was guessing a bit of Azelf, but not sure about that one

[bitter gate]

Azelf?

Hmmm

sounds a bit tight but not impossible

especially with sprint

[worthy horizon]

i imagine tornadus would be much easier

[true tartan]

Tornadus too

a bit of rng

[bitter gate]

if you don't die to Heat Wave, yes

you mostly have to avoid that

or actually survive it fsr

[true tartan]

avoid or use twave before

is all about in damage ranges

[bitter gate]

she can't dodge it, so it has to be twave

para

or fsr she doesn't get to endurance by that time fsr

[true tartan]

no, not paralyzing in specific

maybe sync para giga

or para sync giga

[bitter gate]

yeah the oneshot is fine

[true tartan]

but sync doesnt have to put it under half

[bitter gate]

it's just

can she even take the heat wave

[true tartan]

which may be doable with the burn penalty

[worthy horizon]

if she bar skips bar 1 tornadus will be at +0 acc

[bitter gate]

after the punishment early

[worthy horizon]

dodgeable heat wave

[true tartan]

she has endurance

[bitter gate]

I guess so then

yeah he 5/5ed her

https://twitter.com/MizoreAwayuki/status/1791012231909662767

Ｓｎｏｗ／淡雪 (@MizoreAwayuki) on X

レジェンドバトルのコバルオンＶＨをポピー単騎でクリアした。エッジを麻痺で潰すだけの簡単な遊びです＾ｑ＾カウント調整は少し工夫した。

#ＬＢコバルオン単騎

Twitter · May 16, 2024, 7:46 AM

[stuck mantle]

He use 4 candy? Lol ritch

[chrome halo]

kid named Piercing Gaze

Torn bar 3 getting PG is so stupid

[bitter gate]

@worthy horizon @true tartan he actually used the +2 on sync passive

[worthy horizon]

right ye

[bitter gate]

to stack and oneshot rofl

it's quite funny

also just don't take Haymaker

[median swan]

omg

[bitter gate]

also he didn't sprint her yet so

so far no need for the cake

but yeah the TWave spam trick is

very underrated

[stuck mantle]

Since he candy poppy

Dont have cake from pull

T wave same like corrles spam

[median swan]

need more units like that tbh

[bitter gate]

we need more units with CI

without CI

your gauge just disappears

lmao

[stuck mantle]

If poppy was tech and sup or filed ex role would be awesome

[bitter gate]

CI is very important for these strats to work, otherwise you'll end up like Flannery

who can spam willo but then runs out and then you have to wait gain

[median swan]

@ncleaf

[worthy horizon]

twave spam still works without gauge help if you're using bp surge vs latios second half bar 1

farm as many sync buffs as possible

[bitter gate]

yeah but it's latios so

there's no risk

[worthy horizon]

yep

[bitter gate]

you can't do that everywhere else

[worthy horizon]

niche case

[bitter gate]

most units with CI can abuse it in multiple places

Im surprised SC Emmet hasn't abused it yet

Hilbert can also abuse it actually

BP Barry, Argenta, Clemont and NY Dawn also abuse it

it's a great LG passive tbh

[worthy horizon]

lot better on stun spore or twave than metal sound or screech

much faster

[median swan]

^yeah was gonna say, status conditions work a lot better with that strat

[bitter gate]

does it matter actually

is it due to like, the indicator?

[median swan]

there's a delay with the message for the debuffs

[bitter gate]

and not status?

[median swan]

it's why spamming teeter dance on dawn is better than feather dance

[bitter gate]

x is already paralyzed?

[median swan]

yeah

[bitter gate]

Hmm

[median swan]

i don't really know why but with status you can queue immediately

[worthy horizon]

yep just no delay

[median swan]

but with the debuffs there's a slight delay

i don't have argenta so idk how it would work with self buffs

[worthy horizon]

pretty sure argenta would have about the same delay but i'll check

yea plus it's only charging infliction 1 so you never actually bother with it

[copper helm]

Poppy any good?

I like Tinkaton as a mon

[worthy horizon]

she's soloed cobalion and latios

[copper helm]

Para screams Tornadus, but can she do that?

[worthy horizon]

it would seem to be the next most possible one yes

we'll see

[stuck mantle]

Need luck bar 1 miss and para heat wave too

Then maybe

[tender horizon]

Those hammers

Damn

[karmic willow]

https://twitter.com/manimanikakaka/status/1790740903449252154?t=3K09EIP6VYMh4NZ_Sk-4cw&s=19

まにすら (@manimanikakaka) on X

👍
クリアした途端ちょっと日和った編成な気がしてくるのなぜだろうね

Twitter · May 15, 2024, 1:47 PM

Yo?

[worthy horizon]

i know alcremie/valerie is very solid vs latias

[quaint tartan]

Sundering 9 5/5 tile beloved

Sorry, hit defense down & sp.def down 9 🥶

[chrome halo]

[tender horizon]

Who here pulled poopy

[pearl beacon]

4 bar moves and no gauge tools at base, I pass

[inner turret]

Not 4 bar move, 4 bar bonk

[pearl beacon]

G-Gigaton Bonkaton

[karmic willow]

sundering only does it inconsistently so

[bitter gate]

So no more poppy solos?

[stuck mantle]

I have poppy but im lazzy around😂

My next solos next update

[tight rivet]

she got soloes?

[bitter gate]

2

Latios and cob

[bitter gate]

At least try Bulu

[stuck mantle]

Nah she stay lv 1 for some time😂

Whit the rest off group

When i max use energy others then she will be next in list:)

I like spend energy and lv up units

Not just get stuff and they dont lv up

[true tartan]

yup, as expected lol

[bitter gate]

@true tartan were there any more?

[modest oar]

https://youtu.be/34o1uZMw5AE?si=7L3hlK-80LCa-hj_

Cobalion reduced to 3/5 20/20

[stuck mantle]

They use extra energy?

[modest oar]

No

Usually redhono writes if he uses extra energy

[bitter gate]

I'm surprised she only has 2

[stuck mantle]

This para luck

Crazy

He should try torn

If he have this luck lol

4 moves para should win:)

[true tartan]

dunno, expecting an amount is not really an ensurance of it haha, but is more about that she has some of the tools that could make it happen... just need anyone that's down to try it

[bitter gate]

My guess is that if she could do more

She would've done so by now

[true tartan]

many of the runs that I've said... sometimes are not done and when I get the unit.. I get it done lol

[kind imp]

And there's people busy with hs

[modest oar]

Also sometimes a run isn't done just because nobody tries it

[kind imp]

Like gardenia on latios

[true tartan]

at least we comment on some very unlikely runs here lol

that one is totally on rednhoho haha

[dawn plume]

i predicted 2 for poppy but bulu not cobalion lol, could still happen though

she’s got the same strat as colress with none of the bulk

[true tartan]

yep

at least she can damage with regular moves

[rocky oasis]

summer steven vs raikou is possible

i just cant be assed to do it

[kind imp]

And azelf, moltres, registeel?

No sides

[rocky oasis]

for poppy?

[kind imp]

Sm steven

[rocky oasis]

idk

the raikou one is obnoxious tho bc of the sides and crit

idk about registeel

moltres def not

azelf idk

could always try

[chrome halo]

just get absurd freeze luck

[rocky oasis]

ive gotten to bar 3 before vs raikou

[modest oar]

I doubt Regi because no freeze in Bar 3

[rocky oasis]

yeah

it probably isnt possible

[modest oar]

Azelf might be doable

[rocky oasis]

i aint rolling the blue cookies for stalwart tho

[chrome halo]

how about flinch

[rocky oasis]

30%

no agg

[modest oar]

Ehhh I doubt it'll work long enough for him to live

[rocky oasis]

and no double mgr for gauge

[chrome halo]

[modest oar]

Does Steven start with hail up?

[kind imp]

No

[rocky oasis]

no

[modest oar]

So Moltres is out of the question

If he could summon hail on entry it'd be possible

[rocky oasis]

flare blitz

is a thing

and it sucks

[modest oar]

Yeah. Moltres can at least be flinched

I think him + Melony duo would be pretty simple

[rocky oasis]

waste of melony tho

shes a sleeper

[modest oar]

If Steven 3/5 sure, but 1/5 or 2/5 not really

They synergize well and Steven can't freeze without 3/5

[karmic willow]

oh boy

summer steven

absolute flinch luck bar 1

survive flare blitz and all that bar 2

bar 2 is sp.atk only so no stoic

[modest oar]

There's no way he can do it

Like theoretically it could work but it'll never happen in practice

[stuck mantle]

He need flinch befor sync

Sync bar 2 half bar 2 sync and same bar 3

[modest oar]

His DPS isn't that good so there's no need to worry about damage control all that much

It's just a matter of so many freeze/flinch luck

[true tartan]

https://youtu.be/34o1uZMw5AE?si=9fwF3tsTyQi5JGt0

who needs 5/5 anyway....the run lol

[stuck mantle]

I need 5/5🤣

[dawn plume]

poppy so boring

poppy more like poopy

i do like dena recognizing that tinkaton is the popular thing not poppy and making tinkaton the app icon as opposed to rika who got to be the app icon LOL

[true tartan]

same thing with Greninja and Calem you know lol

or Lugia and Ethan

[dawn plume]

they know what catches people's eyes i respect it

[modest oar]

I think making a small looking child like her the icon wouldn't be a wise move

So that's why they didn't

[karmic willow]

real question

can Kali solo azelf

or does she get cooked?

[karmic willow]

i wonder when that was the case too

like

ethan

greninja

pretty sure one more case

like

Tyranitar?

[modest oar]

I feel like Kali would really struggle against Azelf's barrage of special moves

[karmic willow]

early game sucks

B U T

yeah she's not getting through that

i mean

realistically

if you can get to +6 evasion

asap

and somehow just

dodge

idk

[modest oar]

She just deals little damage and Azelf is too fast

[karmic willow]

even with gear it feels unfeasible

nvm

bar 3 piercing gaze

[modest oar]

Bar 3 is probably the easiest for her

[karmic willow]

yeah

if she can survive til then

just looking back and see

a lot of units

even with +10

can't do stuff well

unless they are pokefair

[modest oar]

She won't. She is walled by Bar 1

If only she had crit and her stats wouldn't suck

[karmic willow]

well

i guess

a good solution would be to

dump mr hotshot

classic blue

[modest oar]

Classic Blue could probably go lower than Kali

[karmic willow]

1/5 classic blue sucks so imma do it

[modest oar]

Oh 1/5

[karmic willow]

yeah

1/5 classic blue AND kali

kali lives early game with stalwart

and uhh

win i suppose

[modest oar]

I guess? Syncs gonna hurt Blue

And you need him alive for Bar 1

[thick dawn]

i'm sure tate and liza are more popular than fucking jirachi they were just snubbed

[modest oar]

Jirachi had the movie, and is cute so idk

[karmic willow]

oh yeah

jirachi

[dawn plume]

[karmic willow]

so real

[dawn plume]

tate and liza everyones favorite characters

[modest oar]

Their event was peak though

[karmic willow]

no way tate and liza more popular than jirachi

though

i am SO happy they got an alt

and uhhh

ngl

liza got so much character development

[inner turret]

go zoom go brrr

[karmic willow]

after the team skull event

wasn't it her that got the talk with archie? or anabel

anyways

i still remember tate being like the "omg concerned brother"

nothing much

liza got so much tho

[tender horizon]

Liza was with Anabel

Tate was with Archid

They are always showing up in events related to Family or Siblings tho

[scenic bolt]

Define character development

[worthy horizon]

https://youtu.be/gabiL_9B_Yo all done

ty quaggles for the strats

geeta's essential tiles are available at 2/5 so technically cobalion cress and uxie can all be lowered further but it'd be a massive massive pain

cobalion would need stoic and would have to work with 0 debuffs, cress and uxie would need poison zone debuff ls

[true tartan]

Geeta lowered on Uxie while Poppy flattened Tornadus

[worthy horizon]

gg snow

[modest oar]

She did?

[true tartan]

yeah

[worthy horizon]

i figure if stdk mentions it it's on his doc already

https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm43798067

[true tartan]

I was going to share the twitter one, as it is not so long haha

https://vxtwitter.com/MizoreAwayuki/status/1791215321484865584

[worthy horizon]

yea that one's more convenient

[modest oar]

Wonder if she can do Regirock

It's steel weak after Bar 1

[worthy horizon]

para is so much less effective on everything else that i'm inclined to think she doesn't get more

bulu has a lot of offensive pressure

idk for sure tho

[modest oar]

Considering how powerful her Gigaton hammer is and no defense mitigation, I do believe Regirock is a possibility

[true tartan]

tanking the EQs would be a problem if she doesn't skip over halves

[worthy horizon]

yeah it comes down to surviving bar 1 mainly

[modest oar]

I think she can skip it

[true tartan]

and after that

is not getting hit by things

getting under half means you'd get -2 defense

so even with vigi, EQ would hurt a lot

[modest oar]

https://youtu.be/zOPOoaKMHjs?si=jSc4VhMwbmuvRo92

[modest oar]

I meant Regirock

Not Registeel

[true tartan]

oh

thanks rednhoho

[modest oar]

Registeel is probably impossible but she can debuff Registeel's attack and it has low defense mitigations too

So maybe it could be done

[true tartan]

Regirock problem

[worthy horizon]

well if there's bulu then regirock soon

[true tartan]

is that I think the "can't lower defense from skill" takes a while to trigger?

well, let's wait and see if anyone can do it

if she gets past bar 1

Regirock would die by anything

lol

[worthy horizon]

big issue being immune to straight debuffs

[heavy sinew]

wtf

[modest oar]

Redhono I believe in you

[true tartan]

with this... all the solos I was expecting are done

[modest oar]

If he reads it maybe he'll try

[worthy horizon]

not unlikely both of them are attempting regirock rn

[kind imp]

cs2 solo, always nice to see

[dawn plume]

torn and bulu got bonked

[modest oar]

Poppy really pulled that uno reverse on Bulu lol

[dawn plume]

regirock would be tricky… you have to attack to get the def debuffs which is slow

could be doable but the twave spam might not work as well

every time gigaton hammer lands i hear this sound effect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Euq7uTeYCP0

[true tartan]

you'll understand if you've watched/read nantsu no taizai / seven deadly sins

[heavy sinew]

i MIGHT get poppy, that hammer is way too funny

[pliant glen]

I already have the elephant thanks

[kind imp]

i'm also interested in bonk hammer

but her banner goes till next month

so i'll wait for datamine

iirc we're supposed to get MFs next month

[heavy sinew]

i dont have elephant so i kinda need something for steel

sc selene wont cut it

[modest oar]

You have 5/5 Gloria?

If not then Solgaleo

[heavy sinew]

3/5 gloria

[chrome halo]

Me chilling with Solgaleo and spotlight steels

[bitter gate]

So that's four

Jesus she can just

Brute force lmao

[heavy sinew]

what 500 bp hammer does to a mf

[bitter gate]

I think thunder wave is the MVP more than anything

Not only for the antigimmicks but

She wouldn't be able to solo if she can't abuse the spam trick

[heavy sinew]

colress but better :p

/j

[bitter gate]

Is she actually better colress

Colress has more dodge abuse

[heavy sinew]

i think both are equal but colress is probably better

tbf he has no dps with mirror shot meanwhile poppy one shots with a hammer

[dawn plume]

colress with no bulk but with insane dps

[chrome halo]

Colress but no gear grind

[true tartan]

she only needs to take another run to reach Colress

I see a possibility on that

MAYBE on Uxie

[bitter gate]

Does colress only have 5?

[dawn plume]

correct

same 4 as poppy, but also entei

poppy is not getting entei

[true tartan]

gets it

[dawn plume]

how

[kind imp]

0 defense reduction

[dawn plume]

fire weakness

[true tartan]

really, no way haha

it has decent speed at bar 1

she could likely delete bars easily

but the problem is that Entei hits hard in bar 1 with a good speed and 2 gauge moves

[bitter gate]

and super effective moves at that

[true tartan]

Uxie would be the next candidate I guess

[kind imp]

i think entei bar 1 is doable

[modest oar]

Entei can also debuff

[kind imp]

i think you can reset for flamethrower full para, swift, fire spin miss and i tested with colress and i think it gives time for sync+hammer to kill bar 1

[heavy sinew]

Heat wave:

Eruption:

[vital ibex]

just para lol

[worthy horizon]

with 8 para mitigation i think that's a 1/20 for every full para?

[kind imp]

+1 sync buff b-move two shots bar 2
+2 pmun +2 sync buff b-move one shots bar 3

if gauge is a issue drop haymaker/endurance for sync freebie/twofer

i'd assume some shenenigans to avoid bar 2.5, bc of move gauge accel

or not and just do half bars crossing+instaqueue before he can move shenenigans

i don't have her and that's not the whole sequence planning

but i think maybe it's not totally impossible

[kind imp]

https://fxtwitter.com/MizoreAwayuki/status/1791311161960575075

[heavy sinew]

thats 5

electric guard

[bitter gate]

Wow she's actually overperforming here

[worthy horizon]

the 4% damage sync

[bitter gate]

Should I mourn rose for having his title stolen

Lol

[worthy horizon]

and 0 full paras needed

[stuck mantle]

Lol good i scout for poppy;)

[true tartan]

ah nice, another solo

[stuck mantle]

Hammer hit supa hard

[heavy sinew]

oh wow got an omni candy

first time i actually dont know who to give it to

[stuck mantle]

Give me🤣

[heavy sinew]

thinking of bellelba but thats probably a waste

for my sprints/fields i only have 1/5 volo and sc selene

damn sprint and field made me reconsider about omni candies wtf

[true tartan]

me with 10

I really wait for when I need them haha...

[heavy sinew]

real

[tender horizon]

POPPY DID TORN?

[rocky oasis]

im not suprised

[rocky oasis]

+2 helps ss lyra quite a bit vs uxie

idk if this works vs torn? i def cant afford to 5/5 her

i also have no orbs so shes staying at +2 tyvm

[stuck mantle]

She need field exr

Then it can be done

[upper lance]

Guys

It's here

[modest oar]

[heavy sinew]

holy shit

Worst sleep solo ever maybe

[modest oar]

You seriously gave +10 to Ramos lol

You sure are dedicated

[upper lance]

gonna be honest

you don't need the +10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKxaJg_k1q8

[heavy sinew]

Insane 3rd bar

[upper lance]

if anyone is still up to do the min invest, it's still possible

I really wanted to show this, and say :
"I forgot to record this"

[bitter gate]

@upper lance fueboomer would be proud

[pearl beacon]

No patience for Ramos ex, love it 📈

[stuck mantle]

Lol crazy solo

[modest oar]

Ramos EX would make it so much easier

[dawn plume]

ramos ex coming 2026

[bitter gate]

how many remaining EXes are there for the general 3/4s anyway

they're been clearing out the strikes fsr

eventually they'll get there

[pearl beacon]

Too many if Dena keep releasing 1 EX/month

[heavy sinew]

I just want flannery ex

And gardenia if possible

Probably not happening until 2025

[chrome halo]

Misty and Brock EX first

[heavy sinew]

Jessie and James in the background:

[chrome halo]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-go-nintendo-niantic-team-rocket-gif-21079312

[heavy sinew]

wtf

eww

why do they look like that

[pearl beacon]

Cursed Go Rocket

Love how detailed they are but the faces looks like a plastic surgery horror mess

[heavy sinew]

Look how they massacred my boy

[heavy sinew]

Got mix blue and NY Wallace from mix

rally boutta be a breeze

[quaint tartan]

So much field heating your rally

[heavy sinew]

fire types want me

fish fear me

(water types)

[pearl beacon]

Wallace is so good

BR profit 📈

[heavy sinew]

rally stages when I show them a magic trick (it's a 240 bp +10 smun bomb)

https://tenor.com/view/ash-baby-gif-5920695394641505768

[true tartan]

NY Wallace + M Blue are a good combo

I use them when I get a Field/Sprint bonus haha

[heavy sinew]

both need strike cake bleh

I have 0

[pearl beacon]

Nah they're fine

[stuck mantle]

I got today mix blue 5/5

Like he avoid me in 2 days 3 copy😂

Wat is realy funny

Befor nothing

[karmic willow]

LMFAOOOO

[karmic willow]

bro really invested 10 into ramos

Respect

[upper lance]

Gonna be honest :
These 10 are not worthy

[karmic willow]

nawr fam anything for ramos is worth

i might do it next season

the 20/20

not the 10 E

[karmic willow]

should have gone for rude awakening if i'm being honest

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/3700/7100?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=18040802&g=AAECAwQFBggKCw0QExQXHB8gIi8

this would kill bar 3

[worthy horizon]

guess i should give stoic a shot then

and yeah i would have gone for rude awakening if i had overcap

the image clear didn't use stoic did it

ok yea it was mgr 2

actually i can grid those two tiles if i give up defense crush so i'll try that first

he has innate dc2 and the battle takes a really long time anyway

[rocky oasis]

def possible but horrible and obnoxious

got to 50% of bar 2

gave up

[true tartan]

[worthy horizon]

yeah i'm actually confident that stoic + good night-mare is more optimal than the original grid

[vagrant crypt]

1/5 is possible. 😤

[karmic willow]

it's funny how

she has

antitoxin and flameproof

but misses out on the most crucial one

which is lithe

[modest oar]

Caitlin is like that too

[kind imp]

Magic guard

Immune to non direct forms of damage, which is also why Caitlin has sand and hail shelter and escape artist

Paralysis doesn't do damage

[worthy horizon]

tru

[karmic willow]

well

at least

i can go lithe and be okay with not having status immune (unless somehow sleep appears more and more)

i pray for the poor souls that have antifreeze on their grid

respectfully

i don't see it being used

because of how low the freeze% is

even WITH hostile environment on misty at HS

i don't think i have ever got frozen

then again

imagine going back

to units with 1 passives

launch units and

give them weird passives like that

wouldn't it be funny\

God i would want like flameproof so badly on a few units

Because of Entei

Flint comes to mind

He's so bad he needs it

[loud shell]

Flint needs a genuine multiplier first

[worthy horizon]

got the ramos solo on bulu but it used 3 mprs and i think 0 is possible

not uploading yet

[heavy sinew]

W

[rocky oasis]

0/20?

[worthy horizon]

5/20

[rocky oasis]

ah mine is still 4*

maybe if he got his ex

id actually be motivated to invest in him

but he doesnt really need it aside from the solo

[worthy horizon]

0 mpr grid isn't worth it so i'll just upload what i got

[rocky oasis]

honestly i wish theyd finish up the 4* support and tech ex instea dof strikers

nanu, whitney, soph, blaine def want it

liza and cheryl + rachel and sawyer too

[worthy horizon]

upload might take a while so here's picture proof in the meantime

[vital ibex]

begging screaming crying for rachel sawyer ex

i already have them 5/5 150 20/20

maybe on a lear rerun

[rocky oasis]

they desperately need it

[loud shell]

I'd say its a definite probability

Lear will need a role ex

My guess is they'll show up in august as Anni bait

[rocky oasis]

rachels bulk just aint enough to clear some LG rounds before she dies bc she gets no mprs

[loud shell]

She does but the gamble is just not worth it

[rocky oasis]

i mean she does technically have a mpr but

its dogshit w/ 1 mp

it pretty mcuh takes 10 attempts to activate

[worthy horizon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-y-UR8tTAY

new setup makes it 10x easier

old setup needed to hold a perfect sleep chain for a full sync cycle

on bar 3 to avoid wood hammer

also if you're replicating it you want to weaken bar 3 to clear with sync and avoid dealing with the +1 eva

[hollow meadow]

This video is my first time seeing weepinbell from behind lol

[loud shell]

https://tenor.com/view/jigglypuff-pokemon-gif-21252932

[kind imp]

https://youtu.be/Q1ZjC1rlAGc

[chrome halo]

acc debuff reliant solo my beloathed

[loud shell]

HOW???

[heavy sinew]

Is it me or when energy ball is super effective it has a higher chance to lower sp def?

10 energy

[kind imp]

https://youtu.be/01eF7in-o80

[loud shell]

I'm appreciating the May love

[heavy sinew]

may love in may

[kind imp]

Stopped scrolling the yt sub page when I saw the bulu solo to share here, wasn't expecting there'd be another

[heavy sinew]

the great May era

https://tenor.com/view/gol-d-roger-pirate-king-gif-19984973

[loud shell]

That's two new may solos

[chrome halo]

May solo Torn soon™️

[loud shell]

She's up to five now

[kind imp]

The great month week of may

[loud shell]

Any chance at Latias or Terak?

[chrome halo]

when there is acc debuff, there is a way

[kind imp]

I doubt latias

[chrome halo]

Terrakion is hard because of boosted attacks and it spams moves often

[kind imp]

She has mind's eye 7

[loud shell]

She's got Accuracy and Spdef debuffs

Could do a refreshing rain healthy healing set up to buy time

[heavy sinew]

bar 2 will be hell

or bar 1 cause energy ball but idk

[worthy horizon]

i don't see her getting latias or terrak no

nvm terrakion might be within range

latias no

[kind imp]

it'd need to nuke bar 3 terrak or be at full health i think

sure crit/hit sacred sword at opening

[pearl beacon]

That Bar3 got insane bad RNG, rafa'd + bulu sirviving at 1%
But they did it 📈

[bright brook]

May's recent +3 solo is crazy

[shy sinew]

hm need help choosing between vkris and sskorrina with my mix select, either way it's an lg oriented investment so figured you all have the most experience with them at 3/5 to help sway me

[stuck mantle]

Wait for hse wat will be next if dena logic say electric v kriss since good in lg and hse

You will get 2 in 1

[shy sinew]

I have a feeling next hse is electric/steel which makes me want to take kris, but I also have 0/5 mix blue so I'll definitely make it back to 300

[stuck mantle]

Mix blue you get any way

And its not solo unit and fire hse its not soon

If no electric hse pick korrina

[shy sinew]

yeah I'll get it eventually unless I pull a mex (I'm 162 pulls in without him), on one hand korrina's kit looks more fun to me but on the other kris has synchro healing

[stuck mantle]

Both nice units

I got 3 copy mix blue in 2 days and befor got shit

[shy sinew]

I feel like I'll probably go kris and then korrina but hold myself to picking korrina next it's been a couple selects now where I want her

[stuck mantle]

So this mix is strange kinda

Yeap in 5 ani we get alot slects

But varietty most never have

Its random get select for variety

[shy sinew]

yeah I'll lock kris then, she's also the last variety eeveelution I need so there won't be temptation to pull on the old eevee banner in november

[stuck mantle]

Just need wait wat dena cooking for us next hse:)

And pick wat you need for lg and next hse:) nobody now maybe ghost also🤣

[loud shell]

Are you planning to invest or keep them at 1/5?

[shy sinew]

I would invest either to 3/5, I have a tech candy waiting and an omni coming tomorrow

[loud shell]

Korrina is the better unit to be at 1/5 but Kris wants 3/5 more. I will say Kris having power plant and synchro healing with party wide impervious under terrain is a huge boon to gauntlet. She enables weaker tanks or can tank herself

[heavy sinew]

3 dupes in mix

• 2 pokefairs
• 1 Ethan

[pearl beacon]

LG wise vKris is more impactful imo
She got para, stats drop a lot of sustain, terrain and
Synchro Healing/Team Evasive Rush for cheap team comps

But not sure abt the value, I'm more inclined to give variety units less bcs they have 3k selects and kinda better banners (not to mention the free eeveelution copy)

[true tartan]

[kind imp]

yooo

[heavy sinew]

wot

oh poppy

[kind imp]

i was right

[heavy sinew]

whats she doing there

[shy sinew]

6 but 4 of them are 5/5 exr with extra energy

[true tartan]

but... what stage?

[shy sinew]

then again, all of rose's are 5/5

[heavy sinew]

entei?

isnt she fire weak?

[kind imp]

entei

#1012311116778586182 message

[heavy sinew]

aged like milk

[true tartan]

haha, still.. the run is like...

just watch the first seconds

totally, it can be doable without that much luck

but damn that luck lol

in case you wonder what happens:

[heavy sinew]

wtf

[true tartan]

Flamethrower paralysis

Swift paralysis

Fire Spin miss

[kind imp]

ye she could

[true tartan]

and even then, you can make her use Play Rough at the start of bar 2

[heavy sinew]

i'd add an eggmon to tank hits

[true tartan]

so Eruption's power is reduced

since Snow took a crit from that one

at 100% HP

[shy sinew]

huh that entei solo almost makes me want to pull poppy

[kind imp]

tbh i was expecting this would take longer to be done if it was possible

[true tartan]

I just don't know how well the paralysis would go on Poppy

I had my way with Colress, but that's him also lowering acc

I could say "yeah, she maybe can do it..." but I can't picture it well as Uxie haha

[heavy sinew]

datamine near

[shy sinew]

yeah I'm holding strong resisting the urge to pull because surely there's someone next update with more than 6 solos

[true tartan]

or with less investment than 5/5 lol

[shy sinew]

yeah... rika was this update? feels like forever ago but I can't get multiple 5/5s in a single update

[modest oar]

She was

I now believe she can do the Regis

Both of them

[heavy sinew]

believe in poppy

[modest oar]

She can bar skip Registeel

And Regirock is steel weak

[heavy sinew]

and rock

[true tartan]

rock is only about passing bar 1

[modest oar]

She probably could do it

[heavy sinew]

2 full paras like entei

play rough a few times

win

[loud shell]

I'm surprised poppy hasn't gotten Latias

[worthy horizon]

her evasion handling would still be pretty rough

[loud shell]

I'd be curious to see how much gigaton hammer does to bar 2

[modest oar]

Latias' evasion is too much I think

[heavy sinew]

fuck it we gigaton hammer regardless

[worthy horizon]

she can fit in pinpoint entry though

dunno if that'd be optimal but it could help

and drop haymaker for attack debuff

[rocky oasis]

no def crush on her?

[kind imp]

She debuffs def twice each time she use t-wave

[rocky oasis]

huh interesting

i dont have her

i just know her tinkaton as the funny hammer pokemon

[worthy horizon]

yea w/ charging infliction twaves she gets -6 extremely quick already

[rocky oasis]

gigaton hammer does funny number lol

[dawn plume]

how did poppy get entei wtf

wheres the clear

i found

LMFAOOOOOO opened the clear and the first 2 moves both fully paralyze and fire spin misses

ok yeah seems easy

[rocky oasis]

poppy aint on the sheet yet i think

or at least the one im looking at

[chrome halo]

only on stdk's doc for now i think

[dawn plume]

https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm43806401

here

[rocky oasis]

wtf that looks insane

[worthy horizon]

only the fire spin miss is strictly required, you could get full paras on other moves

[rocky oasis]

ok i underestimated poppy

[worthy horizon]

or ig you're trying to avoid the debuffs

[rocky oasis]

still skipping her bc i dont have candy to spare and im out of gems

[dawn plume]

she has impervious, debuffs arent an issue

[rocky oasis]

i think 3/5 might be possible w/ a lot more luck

[dawn plume]

nah cuz that pmun tile is 5/5 locked

[rocky oasis]

Just reset for a million full para

EZPZ

does this really look impossible?

especially w/ exr

i dont have her btw

[worthy horizon]

last time i even spent any gems was geeta lol

or last thing i successfully pulled

[rocky oasis]

i got rika but she ate up my remaining gems

no more rolling till next month

[worthy horizon]

i have 50k gems saved

[rocky oasis]

and thats only if they have smth i like

[kind imp]

i think it's bc shorter animation

so he can't do a second flamethrower

i'd guess just para on the first flamethrower is enough for that but they got lucky with swift para

[bitter gate]

lmao

double para into fire spin miss

jesus tho, she just oneshots the last bar

[kind imp]

0 defense mitigation go brrrr

[rocky oasis]

bonk

her hammer does as much dmg as some nukes

[stuck mantle]

Nuke whit multi player

But you can easy access it not marnie rei or nate

[rocky oasis]

hits like a fucking truck

gotta wonder if she could beat registeel

let our cute little fairy commit war crimes

let her carve up registeel like a pumpkin

[worthy horizon]

i can see registeel being easier than regirock with the not being immune to defense debuffs

could be doable to prevent it from ever buffing spdef too

[stuck mantle]

Issue is he have sure hit crits

And you cant take 2 bars one hit 2/3

[kind imp]

i assume it would use stoic

so ye a crit at -6 +6 would suck

i wonder if enough to reset for full para, at least on the bar 2 sure crit earthquake

[stuck mantle]

Snow is lucky crazy he can try it

Maybe try and die who now

Or didn’t yeat try reggi

[worthy horizon]

i kinda feel like entei will be the last tho

[karmic willow]

I wish i can have

1500 silver tickets

All my eggmons would be 5*

It only took me up until last year to get all 4* units to 5*

[rocky oasis]

i would finally get my strikers to 5*

bc theyre super low priority

[karmic willow]

Okay guys

Who would actually get confusion boon for N Zekrom

That shit so unreliable

[karmic willow]

In theory champion marnie can solo cobalion

Maybe when she gets a role cake i would

I hope it is sprint

She needs speed

And lower sync for faster b move

[stuck mantle]

Sup would be better

[modest oar]

I do like Sprint for CMarnie cause she needs speed so badly. She might solo Moltres with sprint cake

[pearl beacon]

Yeah sprint for the galarian birbs sound nice

Chop w strike will solve some aoe stuff

[quaint tartan]

I’d also enjoy a field nc marnie or bede tbf

[pearl beacon]

Bede field will be insane

poor bellelba

[quaint tartan]

Marnie sprint bede field chop striker

stop giving tech and support here and there Dena

[pearl beacon]

They fkn ruined Archie n Maxie

[median swan]

chop deserves sprint he quite literally has the sprint pokemon

[quaint tartan]

You asking DeNa to make things that make sense

[modest oar]

Sometimes they do though, like giving both Serenas, Lusamine and Steven support cakes

[quaint tartan]

Fair, even though Steven would have appreciate everything except strike imo, even field and sprint would have been good on him

[chrome halo]

i have the better idea:

||give Sprint to all 3 birds||

🏃‍♂️

[modest oar]

I meant SS Steven though. Everything else aside from support is redundant

[pearl beacon]

Sprint for an extra S

Oh wait nvm, Supp too

Dropping Support on ssSteven was just wild

Poor Lussa, dethroned instantly

[modest oar]

She was dethroned the moment Steven came let's be real

[pearl beacon]

Kek the cake could have shortened the difference at least, but mainly for psychic weak stages where Lussa can nuke quite hard with the SEnext and DD9
*Still was weird getting both caked the same month, also considering ssSteven was the first old pfair getting it

[vagrant crypt]

😰🤯

[pearl beacon]

Oooof, so close

[vagrant crypt]

[modest oar]

I caked Lusamine too. She really appreciate the extra bulk for gauntlet

[chrome halo]

I really want to cake her but i have like 4 support cake candidates currently

[heavy sinew]

3/5 gall buy from mix

We might be back

[quaint tartan]

We ballin

[stuck mantle]

Where is my mix drop🥲

Need nee units for lg

[heavy sinew]

Same

[modest oar]

Mix has been dry to me since getting Blue

[loud shell]

I got anabel this morning from mix

Too bad she’s trash

[stuck mantle]

This new mix blue is shit. Mix red was way better

[modest oar]

I'm not even pulling for Blue tbh

It's for everything else

[loud shell]

I like the base kit and extra sun units never hurts

[modest oar]

I think he's fine in Argenta and Darach's battles too

And Thorton

[loud shell]

I’m talking gauntlet mostly

There’s a couple units that can tank with sun up

Flannery turns into a decent tank

[worthy horizon]

yeah flannery looked like one of his best pairs for gauntlet to me

tanky sun abuser

[loud shell]

I usually use her with variety Lucas as a duo. It’s kinda fun.

[modest oar]

Actually yeah. Mix Blue and Flannery pair super well with each other

[chrome halo]

If only Mixue (and Mixed) had one more way to setup their field. I always feel that they run out of field quickly

[loud shell]

Tbh mixed blue usually will burn through most things with blast burn

[dawn plume]

only thing i got from mix since blue dropped is an ss brendan dupe

4/5

his 4/5 grid sucks 💀

[pearl beacon]

It doesn't burn and best you get from mBlue is 10%

[loud shell]

I meant raw DPS

[pearl beacon]