Trainer Lodge

[next junco]

And run out of pair for 2 blue team

[covert pivot]

Well having run my new build for a little bit now I think I can semi-confidently say that running 10 in the type you want twice, a lot in chest twice, and enough to reach ~six silver once for the other two types is pretty good for targetted item farming. I'm always running out of firey if anything even with the two 10s in it.

TBH it may even be smarter to lose a little silver power to get more chest, but I don't really want to be that drastic quite yet.

[glad acorn]

One 10 cache gives me enough for 3 interactions so I will stick with it

[covert pivot]

oh nice. I keep getting unlucky and don't really run into tier 4 firey often. Sadly can't really get to 10 chest without significant sacrifices since I don't have a single +3.

[next junco]

try for 2 blue team like me and you will have to suffer 1/1/8/9

it is so cringe

[alpine flare]

Seeing 3* chest spawn rate has convinced me that if I do chest it has to be 10

[verbal prairie]

is it better to pick a topic that gives 10 ponts or one that is a "hot topic"?

[alpine flare]

That’s up to your risk assessment right

Like do you want to lower attention less for less points or not

Plus chance of triggering max vibes

[verbal prairie]

can you trigger max vibes more than once per interaction?

[alpine flare]

Believe not

[verbal prairie]

which of the "cheap" interaction buys are worth it? (insight specs, shovel, juice, ring)

[glad acorn]

I think hot topic is safer since less attention lost but in the end, life is like Jenga

Since the pair can call off at 95% it's hard to gauge it

[alpine flare]

In my opinion I like shovel and ring the most, others might not agree

Once you stare at the topic list for a bit you can kinda try to guess the hot topic by process of elimination

[verbal prairie]

how can you tell it's a hot topic without the specs?

[glad acorn]

When there is a zoom in the first time

[verbal prairie]

ah that's good to know

[glad acorn]

But since spec is literally free, might as well grab it

[alpine flare]

After you get six slots you can get all of them really

[glad acorn]

Unless you empty it all on presents

[verbal prairie]

well I'm thinking to use my teams to get rare caches

oops haha

[glad acorn]

Cache is gacha, so prepare for it

[alpine flare]

I do this

[glad acorn]

You can get lucky or get 60k coins

[alpine flare]

Still cache but nice balanced income from other team

[lucid steppe]

2 out of 4 chests this morning was coins

I am unhappy

[wide sorrel]

What time interval should I be checking for cheers?

[glad acorn]

Haven't noticed a pattern for that. But I assume it is once per team every day

[zealous osprey]

Can’t agree with this combo more. Optimal strat imo

[orchid glade]

I think I should get my 6th slot today if all goes well

[sharp bramble]

Wait so, we shouldn’t disturb our expedition teams too much?

[alpine flare]

Wdym

I don’t because I have a permanent set up but I don’t see the harm of moving it around

[orchid glade]

I change mine around everytime I need something else

doesn't seem to affect it

[alpine flare]

Like at worst you lose out on ONE drop cuz ur team was being edited at the moment a drop happens but it really doesn’t matter

[glad acorn]

The tick is every minute, so it's very flexible unless you accidentally remove one and forget

[sharp bramble]

Ah ok thanks

[severe river]

Any advice as to which power up items are best?

[alpine flare]

For the expedition?

Like extracts?

[severe river]

The category 1 items, like the shovel

[alpine flare]

Oh, it all boils down to your preference, in my opinion I like the ring followed by shovel

You can kinda guess the hot topic by elimination

And really once you have six slots I think you should be able to buy them all so

Hope he doesn’t quit on me

Oh crud I forgot to click the items

[lethal marsh]

welp, I guess I shouldn't use all interactions again

[carmine pilot]

I got the full trash pack from golden chests
60k gold, 30 expbooks and 600 syn orbs
Actually, 30 expbooks are kinda nice

Running chest+red crystals teams, kinda balanced i can get orange and blue too

[next junco]

always get 30 books or 60k coin from gold chest

https://tenor.com/view/friends-american-sitcom-series-ross-geller-david-schwimmer-gif-17362088

[next junco]

2 good team tho

[carmine pilot]

Barry is the intruder in the alola team lol, but fill perfectly that role

I just wish we got more for galar, we have so few units

[floral lodge]

Can I ask, what's the difference between Team A and Team B

[carmine pilot]

They have small resource bonus
Team A has innate 1 1 0 0
Team B has 0 0 1 1

In the order Red Orange Blue Chest

[floral lodge]

Oh So I get more Rare cache resources if I pick team B, correct?

[carmine pilot]

Yes. You start with +1 bonus

In team B

[loud marten]

Thank you N

[carmine pilot]

same to me today
Are they fixed?

[next junco]

that is 200000 coins in disguise

[loud marten]

Who knows? I got a juice boost yesterday I believe

[carmine pilot]

Oh, no then. I got two Feel Rings

[loud marten]

Ah coincidence then, still poggers

[next junco]

i get 10 lv 3 manual today tho

[glad acorn]

Eh, it does cut some costs for me

Thanks Marnie

[swift vine]

FUCKING N STOPPED THE CONVERSATION AFTER 4 TOPICS CONTINUOUSLY. I HATE HIM! I HATE HIM!

[next junco]

charismatic issue

[reef cargo]

got hit with the 90% attention done with convo today

[carmine pilot]

Do you farm evo materials daily?

[glad acorn]

Evo materials? You mean crystal?

[crisp hornet]

So close

Also this feels weird now

[vernal shadow]

fix that 3 convo ending dena

give us 1000 compensation

[swift vine]

nothing wrong with N

[swift vine]

i even got closed with 100% attention before 💀

[crisp hornet]

Yeah but seeing his pic everytime i go to get materials

[reef cargo]

i think thats what it is, it went from 100 to 90 then she said bye

[knotty nymph]

at 29 now

[reef cargo]

33 points

[glad acorn]

Now Marnie taunts me to get her to 5/5 EX

[next junco]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-my-goal-in-life-sam-johnson-sam-johnson-youtube-life-goals-thats-what-im-aiming-for-gif-18588603

[glad acorn]

You know, the usual burn from Flamethrower. It just works

[modern kestrel]

why is that some interactions last till 50 % while i have some end at 80 and 90%

[glad acorn]

Rng

No way to explain it

[modern kestrel]

Really?even this is rng based?

[crisp hornet]

Rng be like

[modern kestrel]

This is sure shit

[glad acorn]

Think of 90% attention as in 10% to fail. It can happen

[swift vine]

i mean there are people getting masterfair 1% at first multipull when you have to pity them 💀

[next junco]

it is gatcha game everything on mercy of RNG god

[carmine pilot]

No i meant about the costs, if you're low on coins try to sell evo mats
I farmed evo crystals daily and never sold before trainer lodge (just to get free exp)
I got something like 30M

[crisp hornet]

N gave me this today

[urban flicker]

same

[next junco]

[urban flicker]

Rosa gave it to me as well

[next junco]

2 lv cap that we never reach tho

[crisp hornet]

Apparently the green can unlock one level, blue 5 and red 10

[next junco]

[carmine pilot]

Those just unlock level cap, but don't give you any lvl yeah?

[urban flicker]

The gamble paid off

[next junco]

yeah

[crisp hornet]

Yes

FINALLY

[knotty nymph]

was at 20 yesterday and now I'm at 29 so getting the lodge pair is def quicker than expected

[carmine pilot]

Noice! I just wish to reach 50% at least, for now i'm getting kicked always at high%

[reef cargo]

well that was odd, i did the hot topic twice

but max vibes didnt happen

[urban flicker]

I think right now I am at a stage where I can afford to always buy gift, items and extra interaction per day

after just a full day and night of trainer lodge leaving afk

[carmine pilot]

Any useful tip? I'm still at 12 with Cynthia because all i got is getting kicked out early

[wide sorrel]

Yeah the only thing you can’t afford everyday is the 1.5 point boost gift

[glad acorn]

The first two topics don't use attention. I will try not to initiate Max Vibe there

[urban flicker]

I don't even know if it's worth buying

you have to use a rare stone that you get from cache to get it

[last trellis]

yeah every since things got figured out, I've been advancing way quicker than i thought

[lean river]

Random pokeball in expedition

[urban flicker]

Ah, really

I didn't know

[glad acorn]

Since if you max vibe on first topic, for example, you exit it and start losing attention

[next junco]

https://tenor.com/view/touchdown-bruh-really-gif-12484222

[urban flicker]

I used the Shovel

[glad acorn]

Since the next topic after vibe is 4th

[last trellis]

we might see some pairs pop up within a week 👀

[urban flicker]

to reduce the attention drop by 2

[glad acorn]

Shovel is helpful but anything not 0% means they have a chance to drop

[urban flicker]

well, it costs bronze crystal

and I have tons of them, so why not

[next junco]

save to buy gift

[glad acorn]

So I'd suggest keeping attention at 100% as long as possible

[last trellis]

some of the items don't seem that useful tbh

[urban flicker]

I have so many that it doesn't matter

and everytime I receive new resources from the expedition

so I probably won't run out

[next junco]

👀 can you affort 6 glass 6 gift and 6 shovel per day?

[urban flicker]

yeah

[next junco]

because i barely do with double team on 1 color

[glad acorn]

Which means first drop below 90% = item time

[urban flicker]

maybe not the silver ones, but right now I could

but I definitelt afford the bronze gift

[glad acorn]

Of course depends on which item, you can go 80% and use the tier2 present but it's definitely risky

[next junco]

i guess

[carmine pilot]

When interacting and out of good picks, is better to stay on topic regardless the choice being tier 2 or 1?
For example, what's better between:
"Exciting Hot Topic" or "Super Exciting Non Topic"?

[glad acorn]

Even worse with tier 3

I did a hot topic run. Less attention lost does help to keep the vibe

[urban flicker]

consider as well that after a full day and full night

I'll get other resources as well

plus chest

[glad acorn]

Yeah, tier 1 present is fair game

[reef cargo]

couldnt even give a tier 1 present b4 Rosa walked away

only 1 decent talk today, shafted otherwise

[glad acorn]

Yeah, that could happen. That's why I question the tier 3 present. Aiming for 70% is definitely a Jackpot moment.

Then you get dumped at 90% still

[urban flicker]

holy shit

[winter galleon]

does anyone know now how much the dupes for the lodge units cost?

[woeful shuttle]

Meanwhile I can barely do 2 levels a day

[lost pumice]

I would be even higher if I was able to use gift on first 3 interaction too

[urban flicker]

I think the gamble is really worth it now

I am starting to consider it

[woeful shuttle]

We can get more interaction than 3?

[cursive fox]

Is it possible to trigger max vibes twice?

[knotty nymph]

I think I'll even be able to grab 3 lodge pair before LG

[lean river]

Woah, that's rude
It's not my fault for not having on topic or super exciting options

[knotty nymph]

nope. I've tried w/ the boost juice thing

[lost pumice]

U can exchange 3 extra from daily exchange

[urban flicker]

@lost pumice is it true that attention does not drop at the first 2 topics?

[glad acorn]

GREAT!

[urban flicker]

so you should probably not trigger max vibes there

[lost pumice]

Yeah It didn't drop

Maybe bcuz of items

[night peak]

Any comments or ideas for improvement? Goal is to max chests on both teams and then get the hightest possible number on the other colors.

[lost pumice]

Since it reduces the drop rate

[lean river]

GREATN'T

[lost pumice]

Also give gift when u are at least 80

Or below

[glad acorn]

First two topics won't drop attention. Otherwise you would have players complaining about them leaving in one topic

That would be brutal

[lost pumice]

Man feels bad for yuul

[glad acorn]

"Ahaha. That's interesting, but I gotta go"

[lost pumice]

Its like they felt bothered

[lean river]

Even game NPC bully me

[lost pumice]

Ig u should take hot topics even if it 5 points

[lean river]

I have no choice

[next junco]

bruh i failed max vibe 5 time

[lean river]

No hit topic, no super exciting

[next junco]

[lost pumice]

Used any items?

[next junco]

they zoom in and zoom out

[lean river]

You fail max vibe I fail at 90% attention

[lean river]

Glasses only

[next junco]

[glad acorn]

Need an entei emote

[lost pumice]

Try other items too

[glad acorn]

You know, Burn from Flamethrower is exactly 10%

[lost pumice]

:enteiNO:

[lean river]

Just get 6th slot, working on red materials

[glad acorn]

And it happens more often than not

[lost pumice]

Same working on reds and chests

[lean river]

Hot topic options doko?

They only appears on first round and they gone

[next junco]

bruh they quit on 80% 3 time in a round

[lost pumice]

The ring makes hot topics appear more often

[next junco]

fail max vibe like 10 time today

[urban flicker]

use items

[next junco]

4 time interaction

[urban flicker]

boost juices guarantees max vibes if you hit the hot topic

[lean river]

Even max vibe can't safe me

[urban flicker]

and you know the hot topic if you use lens

[lean river]

Man just go

[next junco]

i have glass and shovel and gift

[lean river]

Ig blue don't want to talk to me tdy

[next junco]

still fail

[lost pumice]

Add bronze gift when u are at 90 or below

[noble locust]

Got Cynthia to lv 30

[glad acorn]

I saw this screenshot and suddenly have a moment of clarity

[noble locust]

The interactions were a rollercoaster today
One ended at 95 attention
Other one ended at 44% attention

[zealous osprey]

Not bad

[glad acorn]

You see, there are like 20 5star power ups. So frankly, by getting a pair to level 100, you get to 6EX them

That's pretty generous

[next junco]

6 interaction only increase 7 lv

https://tenor.com/view/gravity-falls-mabel-sad-sigh-gif-5329229

[glad acorn]

Okay, this is brutal

[lean river]

Not bad

This is so rng heavy

[lean river]

Isn't this normal?

Or just me

[next junco]

[next junco]

No

Normal is 10 lv

Because i used many item

[lean river]

Coin go away pls

[rocky peak]

Nice. That reddit doc really helps a lot

[lean river]

Worth?

[next junco]

yes

nothing else to exchange neither

[lean river]

Or I should go for orbs?

[lean river]

It's for later when you unlock unit tho

[next junco]

orb free tho

[noble locust]

Man i'd freak out going all in like that 😂 all 3 interactions - what if it ends at like 90% attention

[next junco]

i'm new and i start to stack orb already

[lean river]

Many unit waiting to be grided

[next junco]

if it is 5000 orb i will consider

only 1000 orb

chest drop like 600

[lean river]

I'll hold then, it's not like 3 lvl matters anyway

[lean river]

That's a lot

[next junco]

wait if they update furniture

[lean river]

Orb and lvl more important

[viscid meteor]

asking a simple thing

does anyone know how the points progress over topics?

[lean river]

[viscid meteor]

I have

[next junco]

well up to you

will be important in EB

[viscid meteor]

but there's nothing about the points?

[lean river]

https://pastebin.com/YtvfDagX

[viscid meteor]

that's not what I am asking... :X

[next junco]

i play blind tho

[viscid meteor]

anyway, let me explain a bit...

[lean river]

This is not the PT you want?

I just realized they only pin expedition related message

What about interaction

[viscid meteor]

well, if you consider my app already has the lodge topics...

I already know how those behave haha 😛

I was asking for point calculation

[lean river]

Not this?

[sharp bramble]

LMAO OF COURSE THAT’S WHERE CYNTHIA TOOK US ON A DATE

[urban flicker]

Super Exciting Argument: 10 Points
Exciting Argument: 7 points
Interesting Argument: 5 points

[next junco]

a ruin?

[sharp bramble]

They really wanna trigger us lol

[urban flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/9795s-jungkookreaction-gif-22277536

[sharp bramble]

That’s some meta humor right there

[plain nova]

Not too bad, finally lv30

[marble hemlock]

I think it's base points + 1 bonus point per round (after the first round). can probably use some formula involving triangular numbers

[viscid meteor]

The points gotten by each topic in the conversation are set depending on what streak(?) you are:

• As stated in the Absol files, the base value is 10 for Super Exciting, 7 for Exciting and 5 for Interesting.
• The points gained in the streak corresponds to the Answer Value plus Topic Streak - 1. Ie: picking a Super Exciting at Topic #10, you will earn 19 points (10 [Value] + 10 [Streak] - 1).
• While on Max Vibes, the value calculated above is doubled. Meaning is better to get Max Vibes as late as possible, because it secures you two more topics. But you risk on not getting an interaction with Max Vibes.
• The Attention seems to drop related by the Value of your answers. If you pick more high values ones, the attention will drop more.

that's it

[next junco]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YOEKlXY-SYc/mqdefault.jpg

[astral trench]

today is the day i give CYnthia gifts for the first time

[blazing sapphire]

I hate the hot topic of other

So hard to predict

[glad acorn]

I'll like to add an addendum for attention - Just as you get more point the higher the topic count goes, the attention loss also gets higher no matter your choice. You can however choose hot topic to lose attention by half rounded down. Say you are supposed to get -11, but if hot topic, -5

[alpine flare]

There is a list of what category topics belong to

[glad acorn]

It's literal jenga unless you can combo with hot topics. Even then, the rng can just say nope and cut you off

[random nexus]

how does one trigger multiple-interactions multiplier

[glad acorn]

Also one more thing I noticed - Max Vibe can happen after choosing 1 - 3 hot topics. Since we want to delay it, not taking Juice Box might be ideal. Oh yeah, I'll like to add one more thing - It's not fixed so reset can rng the max vibe

[glad acorn]

Present. If you see something like 3x or 6x, they used all their interactions

[random nexus]

oh

[alpine flare]

Agree

[random nexus]

the location doesn't matter right

[viscid meteor]

Oh yeah, if you close the game while the interaction is going on, you don't lose any items and can attempt again

[glad acorn]

So I will imagine something like.
1 - 2 topic - 10 pointers
3 and so on - Hot topic. Spend items when nearing the 90/80/70

[winter galleon]

is that confirmed?? i'll do that when i get Other as a hot topic again

[viscid meteor]

I've done it

some friends also do it haha

[glad acorn]

Yes, you can just reset as long as it's not the end of the interaction

[urban flicker]

yeah it works but

what is the exact timing

on when you should close the game

[nocturne aurora]

omg cheating the matrix

[glad acorn]

If they call you off, it's buh-bye

[viscid meteor]

there is no timing

[random nexus]

it's during interaction, not when you see the pause before the end

[nocturne aurora]

thanks for the tip i'll have to start doing that

My Rosa is 11 despite me using items daily, starting to lose patience

[glad acorn]

The moment you chose the last topic, your "fate" is sealed

[viscid meteor]

if you answered a topic

its too late

[glad acorn]

It can be at 6% or 95%

[viscid meteor]

yep

you can reset while you havent submitted an answer

[urban flicker]

Ah, so you have to close before choosing a topic

[wind badger]

N’s finally level 20. 80 more painstakingly levels to go

[urban flicker]

but when exactly would you do that

[glad acorn]

Any attention not 100% is risky

[viscid meteor]

yeah

[glad acorn]

Smh this cursed rng

[viscid meteor]

they can cut you on 4th answer

[glad acorn]

Make it 5th, if you start vibes on 2nd

[alpine flare]

The only use I see for it is like the topics are really bad or you forgor to bring the items

[deep tree]

very unlucky day, cynthia playing hard mode ... leaves at 90% 80% most of the time

[alpine flare]

Totally not me doing the latter today

[viscid meteor]

my highest topic with cynthia...

[viscid meteor]

was 14

[finite dock]

Literally left at 92%... With all items on

[glad acorn]

I got to 13 with Marnie

[finite dock]

This mode is stupid.

[viscid meteor]

and "14"

because it was 13 picks +1 present

[glad acorn]

And we are suckered for this rng

[nocturne aurora]

oof

[viscid meteor]

which doesnt count

[nocturne aurora]

my highest topc was like, 11, once

[urban flicker]

Can you buy the extra interaction from the shop and have a x6 multiplier during interaction?

[viscid meteor]

yeah

you can buy the other 3 iirc?

and do a x6

[glad acorn]

That's like going all in poker. Hope you don't get 95%

[viscid meteor]

but its a risky bet imo hahaha

[glad acorn]

[deep tree]

imagine getting dumped at 90% with all interactions done in one go ... with all gifts and items ...

[glad acorn]

"No bet? No life"

[plain nova]

waiting for someone to gamble a x6 with all items and got the highest score

[alpine flare]

Win fast or lose fast

[chilly wadi]

i dont have to imagine it happens 6 times a day

[urban flicker]

I'll try tomorrow, I swear

[fickle fox]

I gambled at x5

[urban flicker]

and I'll post a screenshot at the end

[alpine flare]

I did x5 today for a total of 190x5=950, not bad

[nocturne aurora]

"omg 6x chests??"

it's all 1* ......

[fickle fox]

I got like 103x5 points today

[nocturne aurora]

i'm missing 50 ultra red crystals for last slot

[alpine flare]

Double red lv10 time

[fickle fox]

damn almost 10 levels

[nocturne aurora]

do you all just use specs + feel rings now for interactions?

[random nexus]

i also use shovels because i bought some

[urban flicker]

You know what I am gonna do

I will not choose the hot topic the first 2 answers

[alpine flare]

Shovel too

[urban flicker]

if from the 3rd answer there is no hot topic choice, I'll reset

[alpine flare]

Use all but juice

[finite dock]

All 6 interactions today.

Cynthia left every single time over 80%.

[urban flicker]

why not?

[random nexus]

i'm going to do this from now on: get interactions to x6, farm the presents up, reset on 3rd not being hot topic

[urban flicker]

same

[finite dock]

I think in total, I've only ever seen the interaction % go under 60% once

[alpine flare]

I don’t like being forced to choose hot topic as the best option early then being forced into max vibe

[modest delta]

i had one get to like 30 odd

[alpine flare]

Then again with the soft reset thing I guess I can take juice and choose later max vibe time

[urban flicker]

from the 3rd topic and onward

[modest delta]

hows resetting it work anyway

[urban flicker]

probably

[modest delta]

didnt want to lose interactions by fucking it up

[alpine flare]

Just quit anytime before you chose the topic that will end the interaction

[hollow kiln]

Finally got last 2 slots

[alpine flare]

Quit the game

[viscid meteor]

bad timed statement...

and congrats li

[hollow kiln]

I’m not in a hurry to get Lodge units. I’m going to get my 5 buddies to friendship level 10. Then level 20 and so forth.

[modest delta]

hit level 20 with rosa then

got 5 interactions left for today

[sharp bramble]

Just gonna max out Cynthia to 100 lol

[sharp bramble]

The rest can wait

[modest delta]

puts the photo there

[sharp bramble]

Yep

[spring cobalt]

If you "use all interactions", do you also need 3x the gifts? Thinking it might be a good use of the gold ones.

[modest delta]

pretty cool

[sharp bramble]

Yes

[urban flicker]

Yes, it's high risk, high reward

you could get dumped very early

[modest delta]

the frames are from move level

lol

[urban flicker]

or very late and get a huge multiplier

[spring cobalt]

Was hoping it was just the buffs that need 3x 😦

[frosty juniper]

I think I kinda have a strategy in mind, but I'll have to try it out for a bit

[visual remnant]

Yet another reason why Boost Juice is trash

[modest delta]

Can’t win it if you ain’t in it

[nocturne aurora]

is it worth usually to hit the hot topic even for 5 points or nah?

wtf

i'm lucky if they level up by 1

[formal hornet]

Thats 5 interaction in one

[nocturne aurora]

oh

[formal hornet]

I think it is if you havent got max vibes yet, otherwise no

[modest delta]

gold presents are gonna be cracked after readily avaliable

1.5x

probably worth using them at like 80 though

bit risky to go further than that

even if you miss some of the benefit

the 5* powerups are very nice

on a average day with items you can probably get 5 level ups

[nocturne aurora]

i did one interaction max vibe with 9 topics, 145 heart, barely got the level up complicated, gonna try a present

[formal hornet]

145 is pretty good

[modest delta]

level and a half

[glad acorn]

Oh why am I doing this?

[nocturne aurora]

i'd assume so as well but the xp didn't feel as rewarding

[modest delta]

seems like just 100 per level

at least for a while

dunno if its more in the later ones

[nocturne aurora]

so you're saying use present around 80% attention?

[glad acorn]

I'd say when you need to get it to near 100%

[modest delta]

seems about the sweetspot

[wind badger]

Ha. 2/3 times i dont even get to 80%

[glad acorn]

Because the next topic might break it

[modest delta]

dont think risking gold to like 50 or whatever is ever worth

[formal hornet]

If you have enough resources then try to use it anytime theres no good topics

[modest delta]

if bronze just use at 90 though

[formal hornet]

I was trying to save gifts for a "good" attention gain but they just leave before that

[glad acorn]

Tier3 present will be extremely salty when you get to 70%, use it, and the pair drops out at 95%

[chilly wadi]

them leaving feels random imo

[frosty juniper]

Honestly, just use presents, at 91% no matter the level of the present

[modest delta]

can you use multiple presents anyway

if so do the multipliers stack

[nocturne aurora]

wow i got a -15% in attention, gave the present, did an exciting one and got -12% again

jesus

[frosty juniper]

No you can't

Unfortunately

[chilly wadi]

sometimes they'll stick around to 30% other times i've have leave at literally 3rd interaction im like ok

[frosty juniper]

1 hot topic and 1 present, that's it

[glad acorn]

Once per interaction

[modest delta]

tragic

[nocturne aurora]

how is she still here lol

[modest delta]

think the gold giving 1.5x is easily the best bit

[nocturne aurora]

do presents reduce chances of them leaving is that it

[urban flicker]

The consensus right now is that you should reset before choosing while you are at the 3rd choice

[glad acorn]

Attention loss gets higher the higher the topic count. See my chart

[urban flicker]

if there is no hot topic option available

[nocturne aurora]

yeah but i mean they usually leave by 75%

[plain nova]

My highest, got 3 lv

[urban flicker]

wow

[wind badger]

You can reset?

[urban flicker]

Yes, you close the game before choosing any of the 3 option

the game will give you back eventual items and interaction

[chilly wadi]

that's a good idea

[wind badger]

Why would you reset at 3 interaction though?

[frosty juniper]

It's a great failsafe in case your phone dies or something of the sort

[urban flicker]

The first 2 choices will not drop the attention, so even if there is a hot topic that can trigger max vibes, I'd suggest to not do it

[plain nova]

i usually got 8-9 topics, got <5 a few times too

[urban flicker]

trigger max vibes at like the 3rd topic and onward

[frosty juniper]

That way you'll get at least 5 turns

[wind badger]

Ah good call

I’ve been doing max vibes as early as I can

Thought it helps prolong the convo

[urban flicker]

If, at the 3rd topic choice there is no hot topic answer you can choose

close and open the game again until you get one

[glad acorn]

You can refresh for hot topic, odd to max vibe (1 - 3) and also first fee topics

[chilly wadi]

what decides if max vibes or not? sometimes it zooms in and they decide nah

[frosty juniper]

If you're lucky, then you'll get around 80 at turn 5 with this method

[urban flicker]

Tomorrow I will do a big gamble and buy the 3 extra interaction from the shop

[frosty juniper]

If you use boost juice, then they'll immediately do it

[urban flicker]

to then use all 6 of them at once

[glad acorn]

As long as you don't choose the last topic, you can reset. When is the last topic? Any time you get less than 100% attention

[nocturne aurora]

Rosa, if my topics are so super exciting, why do you choose to leave the conversation early in favor of doing nothing in the trainer lodge like a lamp post? Curious

[glad acorn]

Rosa "Look, that Entei burned someone even at 10%. Time for me to cut this talk. Bye!"

[urban flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/panda-office-pissed-tantrum-mad-gif-5146825

[blazing sapphire]

I can confirm this isn’t true. Even with boost juice it can take a bit.

[glad acorn]

Really? It procs every first hot topic for me

I'll refrain from using it just so I can save the max vibe for later

[sharp bramble]

It always activates for me too

[lean river]

My silver item

Why he do this to me?

No hot topic and man just leave on 80

[glad acorn]

Did you have any feel ring? That might have helped

[lean river]

Will try that after this

I thought glasses and gift are enough

[worldly ivy]

I'm ending it all I used all 4 items to help the convo go well but it ended before I could give him a gift and...... 4 more points....................

I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE INTERACTIONS I CAN BUY I CAN'T DO THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[urban flicker]

@worldly ivy We discussed this before, you can do certain things to get a good interaction and a lots of level:
-Attention does not drop the first 2 topic, meaning you don't want to trigger Max Vibes there.
-At the 3rd Topic I suggest to choose the Hot Topic option to trigger Max Vibes.
-If at the 3rd Topic there is no Hot Topic answer that you can choose, close the game and reopen it, you will be given back interaction and items, so you can try again.
Note: To reset you need to close the game BEFORE choosing any of the 3 option.

[sharp bramble]

Ooh nice trick

[worldly ivy]

too late now but will try to keep that in mind

[urban flicker]

In generally, you wanna trigger Max Vibes as late as possible

tho you probably don't wanna try your luck and you should just trigger it once you get to the 3rd topic, cause that's when the attention starts to drop, so you are guaranteed to get a 5th topic interaction at least

oh and of course it goes without saying to use items and gift

[urban flicker]

yeah you can try tomorrow

[twilit venture]

Is anyone making a spreadsheet on chests during expeditions? (With like drop rates)

[nocturne aurora]

did you check the pins like we suggested?

https://i.imgur.com/fPxprnR.png

if there isn't anything else there, it usually means those other rates are server side, which we cannot access

[lucid steppe]

Per second or per minute?

I remember tutorial says items are found per second

But we pick them up per minute

[twilit venture]

Oh ok

Oh thats helpful

[glad acorn]

Per minute

At least that's how I see they get updated

[urban flicker]

Rewards are collected every minute, this includes chest as well

That's why they have a very low drop rate

[twilit venture]

What drops from chests is server side?

[nimble olive]

Anyone else having way worse interaction luck the more stuff they use on an interaction?

[visual remnant]

@urban zinc minor correction to the sheet, Gloria and Cynthia are +2 Chest if 3 [region], not unconditionally

[deep tree]

I only had bad luck today 4/6 interaction ended in 90~80 something ...

[nimble olive]

The first two days I did interactions 1 by 1 with no items and was going down to sub 20 each time but now I use all 6 interactions at once + items they've all been ending between 90-80

[lone crag]

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[deep tree]

it is random but ...

[glad acorn]

It's all luck

Poker baby

[nimble olive]

Honestly I really feel like this system should be reworked

[lone crag]

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[nimble olive]

Just make the goal to avoid reaching 0

[lone crag]

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[glad acorn]

I mean, in this game, 10% happens too often anyway, so I won't be surprised

[nimble olive]

I wouldn't mind if getting down to 0 had decreased rewards as long as it was consistent

[lone crag]

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[glad acorn]

I feel consistent enough for me. Sometimes the stars aligned and you get a good streak and sometimes you get cut off early. That's rng

[nimble olive]

Its not like any trainer lodge stuff can be monetised so I'm not really sure why it's RNG based to begin with

[glad acorn]

Start vibe at 2nd or 3rd topic. That way, you have 5 topics at minimum

[glad acorn]

Seriously? Have you checked the rewards?

[lone crag]

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[glad acorn]

I know everyone has eyes on the level 100, but before that, you get 20 5-star power ups and 10 certificates. You know what that means?

[nimble olive]

What I mean is there isn't an option to pay gems to continue conversation for example

[glad acorn]

I'd hate that

[lucid steppe]

Do not give DeNA ideas

Stop

[glad acorn]

Still, just take your time. Getting cut off early sucks, but as long as it doesn't spend your gems, it's fine

You will get everything eventually

[nimble olive]

Hey kiddos blue will like you more if you slide him a couple gems (He can nearly pity pull Ash he's desperate)

[urban flicker]

good idea

[vernal shadow]

I want to know the progress of levelling up in the trainer lodge

after interacting with someone

[urban flicker]

let's pay them money to our sync pairs so they don't ditch us during conversation

better then a present multiplier

[glad acorn]

I am just happy I get to put Marnie to 6ex 150 once I get her to level 100

[nimble olive]

Let me slide over one of my millions of money to make them stay

[glad acorn]

That might work with Barry

[nimble olive]

"Haha you're fined 5 million if you're late." "K"

[urban zinc]

thanks for the catch

added all the new sync pairs as well

[glad acorn]

Now I look at it, apparently sinnoh and galar don't have their own +4 if 3x same region

[urban zinc]

Because of the chest if 3 same region

[glad acorn]

Exactly

[quiet vortex]

this is so slow going

[urban flicker]

do we know what expedition skill Cynthia & Lucario and Red & Pikachu have

[glad acorn]

Patience my friend, or you try your luck in cache. Not recommended at least for me

Slow and steady mate.

[glad acorn]

You can preview the pair and check the expedition nevermind. It's greyed out

I heard they are all plain +2

[quiet vortex]

I just got the other slots so fast lol but you're right

[glad acorn]

You get like 720 tier3 a day if you put out level 10 team in that color

[wide sorrel]

Cynthia should have +3 -1 because she a champion?

[thick widget]

Steven has +1 for every Hoenn unit despite being a champion

[lucid steppe]

Steoxys does have +3 -1

[quiet vortex]

Yeah I think my issue is that I have a set up with level 8/7 everything and then another with focus on chests

[jovial moon]

Qn which of the 4 interaction items are the best for me to use in a 3x interaction run?

[hexed lava]

is it worth it to get this everyday ?

[knotty nymph]

YES

Always get all 3

[hexed lava]

okay ty

[balmy ginkgo]

I wasted one the first day, I’m forever behind now

[urban flicker]

I think no one could afford to buy those the first days of the release of the trainer lodge

no one knew nothing about it yet and we had just 3 expedition slot

[balmy ginkgo]

I managed to get lucky because I chose chests

And obtain 2/3

[stark sandal]

is the hot topic set for the day once you complete an interaction or is it different for each interaction?

[winter galleon]

different each interaction

[balmy ginkgo]

Today I had 2 fashion, 2 friends, and 2 locations

[stark sandal]

so glasses are the way to go then

good thing theyre cheap

[urban flicker]

Generally you want to use all the items if you can afford it

glasses, juice, shovel, feel ring

[stark sandal]

wait you can use multiple item types

:0

[urban flicker]

yes

[urban flicker]

If you have 6 expedition slot, right now you are probably swimming in Bronze Crystal

so you can pretty much always buy anything that costs bronze crystal

[cloud glacier]

who is the best pair to interact with?

[sharp solar]

Your faves

[urban flicker]

As in, which of the 9 sync pair in the lodge has the best unit once reaching Lv100

?

[cloud glacier]

yeah

[carmine pilot]

That's my huge problem
For once i reached nearly 70%, it felt a good run and to avoid risk I used the +30 gold item (that also gives +50% boost)
Then, right from 100%, -6% and bye

[urban flicker]

not really sure about it, but I heard that Cynthia and Gastrodon are good

I haven't checked the units and their kit yet tho

[cloud glacier]

other than that? i don’t own lodge cynthia

[stark sandal]

damn i didn’t realize i needed 6 of the gift items too

rip

[jovial moon]

Using all 4 items seems to work

[urban flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/panda-office-pissed-tantrum-mad-gif-5146825

[jovial moon]

well 4 + a gift

[carmine pilot]

Tier2 or tier1 gift?
10 lvl what an amazing run

[cloud glacier]

i got this with no gifts today

[jovial moon]

tier 2

[jovial moon]

this is beter than mine imo

mine was expensive

[ripe hemlock]

Do you get enough tier 2 crystals with a lvl10 color to buy 3 tier 2 gifts per day?

[cloud glacier]

i think so

not sure but i actually do it

[deep tree]

I wasn't paying much attention to friendship level up, but is each level 100 points?

[carmine pilot]

I'm kinda giving up on Cynthia if i can't reach 60% at least.
I keep looking at you guys getting dropped a reasonable %, how do you do that

[rancid lance]

“Use all interactions” is a scam right

[cloud glacier]

mine was kinda lucky, may usually goes away at like 60-70%

[cloud glacier]

it wasn’t for me

[jovial moon]

I was less lucky this time

[deep tree]

it is luck only, today I got cynthia 4 out of 6 interactions she leaves at 90-80%

[carmine pilot]

Yeah but my usual is between 85 and 95%
Trying both all at once or singles it changed nothing

[rancid lance]

I used it and stopped at 80% and lost out on the rest being longer

They always stop at 75-80 for me when they’re only suppose to be a 35-20% chance of it happening. It feels like the odds are hella messed up.

It doesn’t add up at all

[quiet vortex]

Changed up my teams and now it's going a lot better

Also

[rancid lance]

If there’s only a 20% chance of them stopping then it shouldn’t be happening for 2 out of 3 times, same thing until it drops to at least 50%

[deep tree]

imagine betting all 6 interaction ... full items, and reach 0% attention with gift

[quiet vortex]

I always get my interactions ending at 80% too

[rancid lance]

And the fact that it seems to happen to everyone makes me think it’s glitched. There’s just no way it’s this common

20% isn’t common at all, yet it is

[quiet vortex]

We're too small a sample size unfortunately

[carmine pilot]

That's the point!

[cloud glacier]

is someone else going for may or am i the only stupid?

[quiet vortex]

I would be going for May if not for Marnie/Cynthia bias so

[rancid lance]

If she’s a fave then go for it, that’s why I’m doing Cynthia, I don’t care for any of the sync pairs from lodge

[quiet vortex]

Same lol

[deep tree]

maybe the more friendship level, the more you get dumped early

[quiet vortex]

They can't EX and on paper they all seem fine, so go for faves

[cloud glacier]

i don’t have any fave here so i don’t know what to take

[rancid lance]

This has happened every single day since lodge started. If anything it should be happening less when it goes up

When it launched i was also seeing a lot of people talk about how it ends around 80% for them

[carmine pilot]

Thrn run for the strongest units
To me, Cynthia N and Blue looks the best

[quiet vortex]

I'm not sure if there's a definitive "best" unit yet, I've heard a lot of rumblings about Silver

[rancid lance]

Marnie is a good Poison striker but she lacks EX and by the time you get her we might have something better than SSGio for Poison

[cloud glacier]

ok, i’ll go for blue or silver bc i don’t have cynthia and n

[quiet vortex]

Marnie is tech actually because she can't be anything else

[rancid lance]

She is?

[quiet vortex]

Yes

[rancid lance]

Well that stinks lmao

[quiet vortex]

Ikr

[cloud glacier]

lillie and comfey looks good imo

[dry abyss]

My best one yet

[cloud glacier]

with passives and grid

[quiet vortex]

I'd have been pissed if she was a striker though because of course she'd be a striker when she can't EX

I don't know why the lodge pairs (and BP units) can't EX anyway, it's arbitrary and ruins their usability
And it's not like EX makes every unit good automatically

[ripe hemlock]

Holy moly I was blessed

[cloud glacier]

wait, do these pairs evolve?

[dry abyss]

[quiet vortex]

I don't think so

(think being the keyword)

[cloud glacier]

no samurott then

[quiet vortex]

Holy shit

[wary wasp]

legit left right as i was about to give him a present 🧍‍♂️

[quiet vortex]

That's probably why it doesn't evolve, because Hilbert (right?) already has it
But it's not like we haven't ever had repeat mons so the point is moot

[keen wolf]

Has anyone ever gotten this before

[quiet vortex]

That's always how it goes I hold off until the last minute for the present for the attention recovery and then they leave

Holy shit congrats

I've yet to get anything impressive from the chests despite having it at level 8 for like 3 days lol

[ripe hemlock]

I'm getting loads of tier 4 crystals

But I actually need tier 2

[lucid steppe]

rosa dropped me on 90%

before I even got to max vibes

with boost juice

[ripe hemlock]

Yikes

[gusty topaz]

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[lethal marsh]

Hey guys, how to get 3x after an interaction? Noob here

[lost pumice]

U use all 3 interaction at once

It risky

[lucid steppe]

you use 3 of your interactions all at once

very risky

if you get dropped at 90%

dead

[lethal marsh]

I see

[lost pumice]

True

[lethal marsh]

Thank you

[shrewd gorge]

I thought I knew the conditions to satisfy max vibes

But I guess I was wrong

[lost pumice]

If u use all 3 interactions u need to use all items 3 of each or no items

[shrewd gorge]

I selected the hot topic like 4 times and I didn’t get max vibes

[winter galleon]

Yeah I had a run where I'm pretty sure I tapped a hot topic that was also Super Exciting and it took 5 zoom ins before I got Max Vibes

[keen wolf]

It's still rng unless using boost juice

[lusty hazel]

The difference between chest lv9 and lv10 is big

I got 18 chest with chest lv9, while for lv10 I got 28

Also I got a Pearl item from the expedition, thought DeNA remove this item from the game

[jovial moon]

Pear?

[rain belfry]

Pearl probably

And no, they didn't. You can still get them in the daily scout.

[jovial moon]

Ah

[sturdy monolith]

W?

At least I know it should take 10 days to max friendship lol

[cloud glacier]

is this worthy?

[plain nova]

no

[jovial moon]

thats a nice multiplier congrats

[sturdy monolith]

would have done x6 but couldnt use all my presents then

[lethal marsh]

Why do I have 2 teams with full chest drop and one is so ahead than the other?
Also is it worth to sacrifice some production in order to get more chests or is it better to have an overall of 10/10/10/10 production?
Thanks

[winter galleon]

Chests have low drop rates, I think Team A just got unlucky

[twilit venture]

how it works is that it has a chance every minute to drop a chest
team B just got more of those

[winter galleon]

In a sense I think doing chests is more worth it? Because you don't really need the gold crystals for other trainers for a long time

I'm only doing 10/10/10/10 because I can't make the other team have a 10 on rare cache

[sturdy monolith]

how lol

[twilit venture]

also chests can drop gold crystals

[random portal]

You're ALL Welcome for this risk.... this is what it looks like with using 6 interactions at once with max vibes and able to use a present...

[jovial moon]

imagine the gains if you used 3 silver gifts and 3x all 4 items

[random portal]

Oh hi.

[jovial moon]

[orchid glade]

Havent checked my lodge for a few hours so interested to see what I get

[frosty juniper]

I think this is a great new step in our friendship

[urban flicker]

I woke up this morning to 50 chest from Team B

[frosty juniper]

That is awesome

[past dune]

Woke up to 30 chests and got a 4* power up outta it

Not bad

[frosty juniper]

The bigger thing you should be talking about is the friendship cap item

[past dune]

Nah it's not that huge to me I like the power up more

[random portal]

The friendship cap item doesn't have an immediate use right now to be fair.

[frosty juniper]

I mean the fact that you got a very expensive thing for free

[urban flicker]

I hope that this friendship key only purpose is not just to get more Lodge stone as you level up

cause otherwise they are not worth it

[random portal]

You know it will be

[urban flicker]

if you get them for free, then sure

[lusty hazel]

I had better luck having interaction without using items and present

[twilit venture]

I got 30 scout tickets a couple of days ago, lemme get the screen

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618056524992086026/1013028621042065449/Screenshot_20220827-121356_Pokmon_Masters_EX.jpg

[lusty hazel]

Wow

[twilit venture]

so yeah, those exist

did anyone get other apparently "rare" stuff?

[next junco]

I get 30 stone to exchange tho

[winter galleon]

Yeah, 60,000 coins

[next junco]

Highest stuffs

[twilit venture]

lmao

[past dune]

My highest so far is they 10 5* powerup tickets
So at best half a 5* powerup lmao

[thick widget]

Marnie ended the interact at 95% attention

really?

[dry abyss]

This is kinda a warning if you do use all interactions be aware you might not get as many points if you do then a single interaction.

[past dune]

Over the days it'll balance out anyways

[dry abyss]

true

[thick widget]

Luckily i used a single interact

[past dune]

But if you need to hit a breakpoint it might be good to average out the rng by doing then 6 interactions separately

[urban zinc]

Learned it the hard way today, Blue left me so early

[pale marsh]

Ending convos right after max vibes

Twice

In a row

[terse raft]

when it says display in lodge menu where exactly is it?

[dry abyss]

Yikes

[past dune]

The screen to head into expeditions I assume

[terse raft]

ohhhh yeah it is

[covert pivot]

Not sure if me running 5 and 7 in chest able to do 8 and 8 upon cheers is better or worse than trying to get a single 10 in chest, since my goal is really mostly the tier 4s

[dry abyss]

Not bad

[glad acorn]

Apparently the pokeballs in expedition are always the same loot times two. Like 10 pearls in team a, same in team b

[sharp solar]

Is it though?

[ornate latch]

Whats the highest friendship you guys reached? My N is currently lvl 32 and I was wondering if I’m behind.

[thick widget]

im only at 29

cuz bad luck sometimes lol

[magic scaffold]

lv. 22 here.

[crisp hornet]

I hate that the biggest cache sync pair always takes off all your other materials

[ornate latch]

I had 3 interactions end at 81% today so I get you

I literally said “Ill give you a gift after this topic, just dont leave” right before it got to 80… and the interaction ended right there

[next junco]

https://tenor.com/view/reencuentros-reencuentro-de-amigos-gif-25017874

We will be there soon

[crisp hornet]

Ayyy lvl 22 too

[urban flicker]

26 with Rosa

[glad acorn]

Let's see. There is 4 candy coins per pair. Assuming we get 20 pairs in lodge, that's 4 candies. But that's too far-sighted

[fickle fox]

[dry abyss]

WOW

[glad acorn]

Nice too bad no 6x

[plain nova]

Another great run

[glad acorn]

Any strat you figured out? Or still slot machine?

[dry abyss]

Haiyah

[plain nova]

[past dune]

He got down to 12 attention God dam

[pale marsh]

14 topics wtf

[glad acorn]

Don't ask me how that happened. Guess I rolled good

[balmy ginkgo]

I feel like today was way easier than during the weekend

[astral trench]

FINAL ATTENTION 9%

[next junco]

people should get a pm-gatcha lodge version

Wound on my pain too many great today

[pale marsh]

I'm impressed

[stray sundial]

wuts everybody's highest friendship lvl right now? just hit lvl27 on rosa this reset

[fickle fox]

currently at 30 with Rosa

[balmy ginkgo]

32 with Cynthia

[glad acorn]

I saw someone got to 31 already

I'll just keep it slow

[past dune]

https://twitter.com/absolutelypm/status/1564240549099368448?t=MB1aH8JQkmV3cJQPhi80hA&s=19 looks like the drop rate for what's inside caches got mined

👁️‍🗨️ Absol-utely 🔍 (2.24.0!!!) (@absolutelypm)

🎁 Rare Cache Details Rate
https://t.co/0briHtZHmF

5★ Scout Ticket x10/x20/x30 - 0.2%/0.2%/0.4% 😩

#PMEXSpolier

Twitter · Aug 29, 2022, 1:16 PM

[urban flicker]

is it possible that if the level of friendship of the sync pair is higher, there is a higher chance they won't leave

[glad acorn]

Testing things out matters out more for me

[nocturne aurora]

@smoky wave when you have a moment can you add this to your pin below the first rates one please? https://pastebin.com/kcDAuih5

@twilit venture since you asked earlier today, check the link above

[balmy ginkgo]

While it makes sense in a progression of friendship sense, it is odd from a game design perspective, you’d like the early levels to go fast and hit the reward centers of the brain, and then make things scarcer as you progress

But then again, even without it being easier, just the fact that we have access to more items and the full exploration teams is bound to make it easier

[urban zinc]

97 isn't great tbh

[void lintel]

Oh daaaang nice

Aaaand I can't open Pastebin from work. Hm...

Can someone check the Great Crystal and Ultra Crystal droprates? That's what I wanted to know

[glad acorn]

Great is 4% ultra is 2%

Kinda low

[void lintel]

Across all chest rarities?

Small sample size thwarted me severely, then... that's less than half of the total rate I got from looking at people's mass-unbox results

[glad acorn]

It's shared. The catch in cache is clearly for the stones from 15% to 20% each

[void lintel]

Unless....

Is that 4% and 2% per color or across all three colors combined

[void lintel]

Oh, thanks. Lemme see

Ah! This is actually better than what I calculated from those unbox images then

[urban zinc]

Wait, so the odds of getting 30 tickets each minute is 0.002%

[void lintel]

So_You're_Saying_There's_A_Chaaaaaaance.png

[glad acorn]

It's 0.2%, but still better than nothing for practically no effort

[urban zinc]

No no

[void lintel]

That's only from 3star caches; 1star and 2star also generate 10 and 20. ...Presumably at a similarly low rate, but yeah

[urban zinc]

You have 0.5% to get a 3* chest each minute if your chest level is 10

[glad acorn]

Everyone already set up the farm by now. Just wait for the passage of time to take its toll

[ivory forge]

dang so this was 0.2%

[urban zinc]

and if you get a 3* chest you've a 0.4% chance to get 30 tickets

[glad acorn]

Definitely #gacha-and-flex material

[ivory forge]

can't believe i wasted my luck for a gold ticket

[orchid glade]

Wow nice 6 slots done

now I can farm properly

[pale marsh]

Congrats

[orchid glade]

Thanks

[void lintel]

Huh?

That looks like 0.2% to me

[urban zinc]

how do you do your math

[glad acorn]

What is the last item again? 5 star power up tix x 10?

[urban zinc]

you don't do 0.5*0.4 right ? Because that's 50%x40%, not 0.5%x0.4%

[void lintel]

What math?

[next junco]

bruh math

[urban zinc]

Oh I missread his tweet

[urban zinc]

So it's even worse

[next junco]

Imagine playing game as normie

[urban zinc]

0.5% to get a 3* chest and then 0.2% to get 30 tickets

[glad acorn]

0.2% is a better rate than a rare loot in mmorpg

[void lintel]

Play fewer Korean ones

[glad acorn]

I only played RO

[void lintel]

tfw 50x EXP/money/loot multipliers on a private server is considered a low rate

[glad acorn]

The granddad of mmorpg

[void lintel]

Hunh, wasn't Everquest and maybe PSO before that...?

...Also I hated RO

[fickle fox]

oh damn 0.2% for the 30 Tix

[viscid kelp]

These are good teams right?

[fickle fox]

rarer than master fairs

[void lintel]

PSO definitely had droprates that low, at least.
I don't know much about Everquest so I can't speak about that

[glad acorn]

I liked it. That's the closest thing where you could role-play as an alchemist

And no, I don't watch FMA

[void lintel]

I went in for a weeklong free trial on the official server and ended up harassed twice in different places and different ways within that week
It wasn't great

And no, I wasn't playing a female character

[urban zinc]

So statistically you have 50% chance to get 30 tickets in under 693 minutes... Which is ~11h30 and remember that it's stats, it won't necessarily happen

[glad acorn]

Now we need a chart to find out whether if a team of 10 cache will suffice 3 interactions per day

From the numbers I am seeing. Rather likely?

[ornate latch]

Rip

[urban zinc]

1 team I don't think so

2 sure

[void lintel]

Let's see... .005 rate of 3star cache, and then .002 rate of scout tickets from the cache. for .00001 rate of 30 scout tickets per minute...

[urban zinc]

That's 1/1000 each minute

[void lintel]

No.

[fickle fox]

so is it better to have 2/10/10/1 and 10/1/1/10 or just go all in on cache

[urban zinc]

0.00001 isn't the percentage

[glad acorn]

A day has 86400 minutes

[urban zinc]

0.001 is

[void lintel]

1/100,000 per minute

How are you doing your math?

[sharp solar]

What's math?

[void lintel]

Like, I don't remember how to convert a 50% probability out of this because it's been a literal decade since my stats course

[glad acorn]

The pair : (Why does this guy keep talking about math?)

[void lintel]

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[next junco]

What are we calculate?

[fickle fox]

Chest stuff

[void lintel]

In this case, the timeframe in which the player can expect a 50% chance of 30 scout tickets from a 3star rare cache

[next junco]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-slide-baby-later-peace-out-gif-17310449

[void lintel]

I don't remember how to calculate it, but going by the per-minute rate... it's gonna be "lol don't get your hopes up"

[sharp solar]

Why don't you just google it

[next junco]

They mined the chest rate?

[void lintel]

I could probably could...

[fickle fox]

google what is math

[void lintel]

Yeah, both the chest spawn rate and the drop weights of each possible thing they contain

[next junco]

How many percentage is gold chest and 30 ticket?

[urban zinc]

Well, 0.5% to get a chest then 0.2% to get tickets inside
To multiply that you divide by 100 (like if you were to do 50%x50%, you'd do 0.5x0.5), so it's 0.005x0.002, which is 0.00001
Then you multiply that by 100 to get it back to %, so you have 0.001% to get 30 tickets each minute

[analog furnace]

Anyone got any efficient double rare cache teams?

I did check the pins, but ig I only saw the doc and not quite that exactly

[urban zinc]

there are teams in the doc tho

[analog furnace]

Guess I'll check further

[void lintel]

Okay. Now calculate again how many minutes it takes to reach a 50% probability of 30 tickets based on that

[analog furnace]

Yeah, I see those

I'm talking efficient double rare cache teams, that doc has individual teams

[next junco]

You want 2 chest and 2 different color?

[analog furnace]

I don't know if they take each other into account directly, especially for something like 0/5/5/10

Or something close to that

[urban zinc]

I didn't do any 0/5/5/10

[next junco]

that is hard tho

[urban zinc]

all the teams I did are 10/10 something

[next junco]

I just do 1 color and 2 chest

[analog furnace]

Yeah, was wanting to see if people had any teams like that to last

But maybe that's too tall of an order for right now, I just remember hearing of a few people talk about something like that

I'll still prob use the doc as a base to see if there's something I can make work

[past dune]

All I got close to that is 5/2/0/10

[next junco]

1/5/5/10 can do with unit +4 tho sound possible

[past dune]

Then I got my other team working on the blue and chest

[next junco]

I just dont have much

[analog furnace]

I don't have much either

[next junco]

Sad then

Mostly paid unit

[analog furnace]

Still, I wanna see if I can do something similar

Maybe not quite as good, but close enough

[past dune]

With yellow extract

[analog furnace]

With omni boost, no cheer?

[past dune]

Team A

[urban zinc]

oh bruh idk where I messed up but I definitely did
0.001% is a 1/100000 chance to get 30 tickets lol, so you have to wait 69 315 minutes to have 50% chance to get 30 tickets FYI, that's 1155 hours and 15 minutes, which is around 48 days, so 1 month and a half

[past dune]

Yea that's no boosted stats

[analog furnace]

Oh yellow boost

[past dune]

but obviously I have good units

[twilit venture]

oh nice

[void lintel]

Yeeaaaahhh that seems right this time

[analog furnace]

I don't even have Masked Royale

[past dune]

😔

[urban zinc]

Imagine using a website to do the math

I do it myself

[void lintel]

...need I remind you that you got it wrong the first time

[urban zinc]

ssshhh

shit happened in my head

[analog furnace]

They corrected themselves at least

[glad acorn]

Keep pulling in Alola regional scout

[urban zinc]

so uh ron, what do you want exactly ?

because I didn't understand lol

[glad acorn]

I think he wanted to make two teams of 10 cache but he has no Royal

[urban zinc]

ez

[analog furnace]

It's fine, I was looking to make 2 efficient teams of 10 cache that balance out the other resources as well

An example being something like 10/x/x/10, 0/~5/~5/10

[void lintel]

I use a Hoenn team for cache+red+some yellow

[fickle fox]

what im using rn don't really know what to improve

[void lintel]

So what's your Hoenn roster look like? If you have the same characters, you can try the same team

IIRC my Hoenn team is 9/7/2/10 with cheer, 8/6/1/9 without

[next junco]

Is 1/1/8/8 better or 1/1/7/9 better ?

[past dune]

gotta use the units with region expedition skills otherwise getting cache then crystals with good enough lvl is hard 😔

[urban zinc]

Rn I use that (team A and B in this order)

[void lintel]

With those numbers... have you not yet unlocked all 6 slots?

If you haven't, I'd lean towards 1/1/8/8 because you still need Tier3 stones more

[analog furnace]

I see that heavily leans into red for both tho

[urban zinc]

Yeah because I want red lol

[next junco]

I do Blue tho

[analog furnace]

Ye, that works for that purpose

I'm just trying to balance all

[next junco]

Not as easy as other color

[urban zinc]

Do you have any +3 chest unit ron

[next junco]

All is paid unit