#Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)
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i like diantha a lot but i'll never pull for her arc fair, especially since i have og diantha
just feels pointless to me even if the unit is broken
this is why i prefer neo champions, they're new units and are all all pretty broken
or sygna suits^
||i did fall for cynthia because she's THE SINNOH LORE NERD and her outfit actually changed (i got especially baited by the gold laurel wreath) but i don't regret it so||
i did have to pity though
||i don't blame you tbh, cynthia is my other favorite champion and i can't lie i think i did like two ten pulls on hers too||
thankfully all rest of anni 5 was a skip so i ended up with more gems than preanni
obviously didn't get her but it's fine
but i could've left with a gain of 60k instead of just 10k
yeah that is painful
anyway, arcs are very very hit or miss
but at least you have no regrets
i've heard of a lot of people having regrets for having pulled for the arc suits
i'm the saving guru but like
what's the point of saving if you
- then end up never ever ever scouting even faves
- end up hating the game because you reached 200k gems or more and have nothing to use them on because you only like 2 characters across 100+
at that point you're basically not playing the game anymore
no yeah at that point why even bother playing anymore, you're bound to lose interest at some point that way
pretty much yeah, nothing's keeping you engaged enough to keep going
yeah I don't really get either nor people skipping stories and playing on mute ngl
but that's more a me thing
i don't get that either because what are you even doing in the game if you're skipping the entire story and all the events
i personally adore all the events and all the story content we got thus far
ask my cousin that
he saw me playing poma yesterday and installed it and he played it on mute and was skipping through the story
the mute part was bothering me sm ☠️
😭😭 i would've been seething
watch him say the game's boring
zoomer brain
he’s having fun
"must...cons00m....faster...."
oh well that's good LMAO surprising since he's skipping everything
||he managed to snag all 3 of the kantrio ncs but we spent like 3 hours rerolling for blue 💀💀💀💀💀||
||i got so lucky with nc kantrio on my own account but when rerolling for blue on his acc, we kept getting blue pidgeot like bro that’s the wrong bird 😭||
||they heard you wanted blue and said "bet"||
||”YOU WANT BLUE? HERE’S BLUE.
TAKE HIM AND GET OUT.”||
||speaking of blue and pidgeot, i got him on the lillie holiday banner with her 25% chance ticket to get her, and i got blue (i already had him 5/5) so now i have a deep hatred for that unit specifically ||
and it's not even the first time i've pulled him after 5/5 him like LEAVE ME ALONEEE
me with ||gordie and melony|| bro
like i’m still missing ||bea|| from galar’s gen pool and i STILL don’t have her, like pls send help
instead i have ||gordie and melony|| at like 15/5
||oh my goddd isn't gordie literally a pokefair too?? 😭😭 take my 2/5 bea||
oh wait he's not a pf i mixed him up with ||milo|| i think
||i wish i could
that pulling for nc kantrio didn’t give me her either||
Just officially pitied ||nc leaf||. Broke now. I can’t guarantee ||nc blue|| but is he still worth going for? ||He isn’t a fav at all but he enables so many units||.
I do have like 15k paid gems saved but it’s probably definitely better to use them on selects right?
How much is left from the 31st to the 24th of January? I tried putting it in the calculator and it gave me 16k but I asked AI to add them up just incase I got it wrong and it gave me 20.6k I just wanna know which one is right 
You need AI to calc?
Yes, i don’t trust myself with calculations and math
There’s 21k gems till the 24th
From now (26th) till the 24th
Idk why you said from the 31st
31st of December
Yeah I get it
But u just gotta subtract the gems from now till the 31st from this 21k if you really need from the 31st
Damn it I’m left like 1k short to pity || NC Blue || the worst scenario is that I’ll have to use paid gems 
Gem count, Poison maxer is back in action!!
Nice title font
given i will most likely spend the gems i get by 25 jan on ||nc kantrio|| it seems unlikely i will be able to save alot for 5.5 anni :(
i'm sure we'll get a decent amount of gems during half anni too though :) good luck with your pulls!
big gem days from tmrw
I got 9k ||5k will die at hands of morty ho oh tho||
5.5k gems lets hope i can save enough for ||rockstar duo||
My current gem count before new years
Is there any event this reset? Or they ||withheld it till gio release?||
i believe there is the new year‘s event with raihan and poppy and another event with gio
Ok i just rechecked, it will be late
So right after reset is probably just chilling and do rally for me
Damage challenge if you want something to do o.o
is my server name a hazard to this channel 💀
I don't think so.
No, even if you put 100 gems also not a hazard
Its only a menace if you didnt spoiler and then ||guys which unit should i pull? Or guys i got this unit in first multi or Guys, this new unit is great so you guys should pull. For example.||
Also i dont think server name aint affecting anyone here, its mostly about question or discussion about stuffs that doesnt help in saving
alright thanks, gtk 
I think he was referring to the ||atticus|| part
Oh, not a problem as well. If you are saving for a unit, putting its name on server nickname to remind you your saving goal is one of the good method. I also did like this although mine is 83/84 fave because that means there's 1 fave i wanted from this datamine yet i still havent have it yet
Current 2025 Fave List
Last highest gem count before... January™ 
Rika is 99% getting an alt this year so better get to saving
i am 😦
When I run out of omni candies on arc fairs I probably have to start pulling more than 1 copy on them 😞
Never enough gems even just going for MF/AF
I…feel that’s spoiler worthy?
Especially since there’s nothing saying you need more copies of them anyway.
It's the ultimate reason to save gems. Can't talk about why I save?
I just wasn’t sure is all, I get confused sometimes on what needs to be spoilered or not ^^;
I need some help or advice.
I keep doing multiple single pulls on every banner I see 💀. And now i'm stuck in like a range between 15K - 11K gems (I have 12,080 rn.)
How do I stop doing doing these single pulls?
@cinder topaz we had a pretty good discussion that sums of saver's mentality few days ago
You might wanna scroll and read through it
As it helps a lot setting the mindset on the big picture
But I have been trying to get ||nc kantrio|| for a year ahhh
Sounds like you did not save enough beforehand
I read through it. lots helpful tips!
I saved as much as I could
Aw
I mean if a fave is a real fave, getting them takes priority over anything else
If you scouted something else it means it was higher priority
You should choose your faves wisely though, don’t just force yourself to grab a fave each month so you don’t get bored
Skip months are a good thing sometimes
That’s why they’re called “faves”, you can’t have everyone as favorites
Seems rough
Being day 1 and having my top crop faves being 50% niche 50% very popular helps
I have apparently 52% of the limiteds PoMa has and no top fave is missing
Just minor faves i skipped in favour of a group rerun
||like the hse one this month||
Can anyone have the detailed version of Feb 2024 gem count as I just wanna check how many gems can we get between 1 Feb to 10 feb

No data of Feb only till april
#1012256199128915968 message
They were asking about February 2024, as in 11 months ago
Feb 2024
You want the message I linked to you, that contains the breakdowns from #1012256199128915968 for the Feb 2024 update
Thanks bud
Ah
Currently on 6k f2p Gems.
Which should I do next?
(I Don't have the sync pair stories done also)
76,310 gems are quite nice i think since January just starting and i got no pairs that i want for the remainder of this datamine
. Now just hoping for not many February fave as Half anni comes right after
alright, if i did the math correctly, the gem count from tomorrow until jan 17 is around 14k gems. add that to my 23k gems rn and thats 37000, subtract the 300 im most likely unable to get from the ub and thats 36,700. enough for 1 pity 
There's also new year lottery gems, that gives at least 300 gems for participating and will be given on Jan 15
oh that too
Well if you are lucky can get 60k
i forgot about that

the 300 gems if i’m unlucky will bring me back to 37k though so whatever is whatever 
I had just started at the game and saw that the glorialt and rei banner was really good
I didn't and even now don't have faves
Well I mean I'm also currently too deep into ||nc red||
And if I can get a pity I will get ||nc leaf|| too
Also it was supposed to be a new years joke lol
So this month's rally is a Q&A??? 😭
Wdym
Also now that I think about it
I saved really poorly
Did like two multis worth of single on ||zerena|| and then a multis worth of singles on ||adaman|| and two multis on ||ss Lysandre|| because a website online said that he was good
Well websites online rank units really poorly
Often by people who don't even play the game
So yea poor financial decisions I must say
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the reward is a wallpaper
meh
a remimder of why you shouldnt roll carelessly
not even getting the last few 4* pu i need for korrina
24k gems now. really think i can secure ||atticus|| the day the banner arrives
Ah, didn't get it my b
ok so the engagement bait campaign isnt a rally or a q+a. basically by interacting with the post you collect “points” and at certain thresholds you get an automated “greeting” from the team rocket members sent to you (you can only get 80 points max per day so as of day 1 we’ve only seen grunt and proton.) And at the max threshold of 300 you’ll get the wallpaper.
I hope this is allowed, I just wanted to clear things up here. (Also I’m falling for this hook line and sinker I love it sooo much.)
They're really nice
I like how proton specifically drops the "respectful talk" on the last phrase
oh my god yes!!!! I noticed it too and was honestly going a little crazy over that detail lmao 
is it optimal to use 3000 paid gems as dailies on a banner across it's duration, e.g 30 days (100gemsx30days)
and then use non-paid gems along side that banner like normal?
Non mix dailies are basically never optimal
Aside the 1/400
30 days of singles are potentially lost in nothing, while mix carries over, or you can save for selects, which give you a unit guaranteed
ah, so mix is the best bet?
Selects>mix>random dailies past 1/400
3000 paid gems is a lot to throw at a banner especially when you could throw the same amount of free gems for the same scout point outcome and ~1/3 of the rolls, but by doing so you preserve your paid gems for the things that only paid gems can do
Reminder to do your Costume Event (Battle Prep) event exchanges! I nearly forgot
And the monthly & rally exchanges as well
How do you guys deal with the temptation of ||pulling||? I could have done a ||multi on ss gio tomorrow but felt "lucky" and decided to do 5 singles without a singke 5 stars||
^
Just remember that every pull you do without pity where you don't get the unit is 1/12 of a future pity utterly lost in nothing
Every 300 gems is like 1/4 of an event's gems wasted
3k is 4-5 days of logins gone for just a few % odds of success
Never scout without 36k
Remember the feeling of walking away with nothing
Read #salt-channel
Recognize that luck does not exist
Luck does exist imo but it's not a variable worth recognizing past its existence imo
Even the luckiest player will eventually get shafted
And even the most shafted might take years to stop having to pity
So being conservative and expecting to pity always is the safer way
I mean luck in the sense of superstitious belief that it's something you can sense and influence
Probability exists
Luck does not
Probability doesn't give a crap about your feelings
Absolutely
I just focus on collecting my faves, prior experience of almost missing a fave before its banner expires gave me quite a reality check and that helped me to not get swayed to other non faves on my saving journey
Oh this is to reply @naive imp
If you mean favorite then it takes willpower and knowing your clear favorites
If you mean randomly pulling Willy nilly then beats me I don’t have that problem haha
Simple. Don't pull on meta ||(OP pairs like Master Fairs and Arc Suit Fairs)|| pairs UNLESS they are your favorite, only pairs that are my favorite trainer and/or Pokémon. We have a pulling simulator here for a reason.
So… in my case I should try and save for ||Cynthia?||
Yeah?
She’s literally my wife in Tomodachi Life, so I could probably make that joke
I'm a lil disconnected from the game RN just doing dailies and sometimes not even properly and been missing days all over the place - but it's fine. because my gem balance is healthy, and probably stays healthier than most players' because of the not-pulling.
i don't know about dealing with the temptation so much because i don't feel it often - but i suppose if I'm on the fence and want to fall towards the "no" side i ask myself if i would be disappointed to sink an entire pity on this unit. am i only envisioning satisfaction on a lucky early pull. do i think I'll actually have fun playing with this unit etc.
I'm sometimes more frugal than i want to be in hindsight but that was when i had more concrete saving goals, a smaller balance and every gem counted for potential pities towards NCs of my favourite characters
Thats why i focusing on my fave, because i will have fun with them even if I'm not playing with them. Like sometimes during free time, i like to view my faves 1 by 1 in order of when i got them added in my roster and it gives a certain satisfaction to see where your effort gotten you
tbh even with 170k+ that's still a bit dangerous when it comes to potential sinnoh NCs or when they finally remember hisui exists again and maybe drop like .... six in a row all limited, Paldea-style. but that's a problem for later me if i push too hard on poma now I'll get burnt out even quicker, need to recover
Currently make my faves level 150 and the rest of the pairs are at level 140, so when i sort by date required and level, my faves will move up
Its hard for hisui now, they need to compete with dpp sinnoh characters
yeah sinnoh/hisui is full of units and yet still has so many missing characters
why'd they combine them 
Hope they add hisui region tag so that we can get hisui focused content and dena actually can sell hisui without basing on sinnoh dpp stuff
They should just add 1 more region tag to current released ones but going forward, other hisui characters only have hisui tag
Yep also to avoid backlash, players hate when something gets taken from them if they directly swap regions
my reaction when ||Lucas|| finally gets something but it's a paid gems only unit:
don't tell me the unit I actually want this month is paywalled I'm already low-key burnt out on the game 😭 at least it's around a while if i decide to go for it ig....
I cannot try to get him, its too close to half anni, and i need paid gems to fund selects
at this point i don't even have any reruns I'm chasing tbh
they're all "would be nice to have but don't really care" after i got adaman just recently
i guess i sort of want Paulo but not super pressing (plus he's a sprint unit i love the playstyle, but not the coin income)
saving goals successful ig I've gotten the faves. now i just have to Wait
and not give into temptation out of apathy/boredom. partially why it's alright to be more lax with the dailies i think
Well just look forward for whats releasing, im also in the same boat for quite a while. Cleared my rerun list when i got N from a select and thats was like on january 2022
Since then i just save gems for unreleased faves
yeah understandable! esp since you've got a concrete list of legendaries
Although its hard to stay above 100k+ when my fave list is quite huge
shrug they'll do Volo alt at some point that's for sure
I dont mind, he can go arceus or giratina. I will nab him either way if that happens 
hopefully throw in Rei but they might bypass him to Sell (Cynthia) Units i dunno. hopefully not
I can see Rei and Akari getting AS especially when we got poor list of base unit of fighting and dark limited unit
Will be quite a while probably, they probably gonna release one of each types AS first before doing dupes
I kinda afraid, gio event talks about possibility of villain AS, and i hope i can afford em 
Quite few villain base units have legendaries as pairings
oh :O i actually haven't gotten around to the gio event (but i do plan to!)
i definitely see gio mewtwo as a possibility tbh
without event context that is
He got the L even zinniaray got new passive for mega, they should give him spatk 2 stack buffs on entry or something
rip, at least he's still a decent f2p unit
Yep but cannot buff self offensive stats is pretty harsh
yeah definitely
can see that happening
I can't see a reason for them to make MF Gio now
If that's not the case
Especially because imo, psychic arc could be lear
it's like paulo being played by gio except now we've moved up another level
I dont mind if he get extra twist like his AS gives Mega Mewtwo X form instead of Y. Well some additional form is better than just reskin that we are currently having with our AS
oh i want arc lear SO MUCH. i mean arc units are meant to sell iconic classic canon characters though which is why i think it's unlikely. but darn all my mixed thoughts about arcs he would have my gems
AS Maxie can change to primal geoudon or something
DeNA may be shilling out these arc suits but hey at least they're a shill for their own OC
i can get behind that. All bow before Lear or something
Doubt we're getting an arc repeat before 2026
Ground and fire both taken
10k gems saved... not a whole lot, but i think i can rack up enough to guarantee at least one master fair by the end february, seeing as it'll likely be ||nate and rosa.|| my goal is to get both though, so hopefully i'll have enough for both by then. luckily no one that i'm interested in is running this month
Well just until end of Jan you should reach around 30k
@vestal leaf your tips worked wonders for me btw. i've been super focused on saving for my favs and i update my gem count daily
thank you so much once again
That's already almost a pity
let's go!!! 
true
and who knows, maybe i'll win something from the ongoing rally
that’s great!! tbh i see 10k and over as a lot LOL
Nice to hear, just don't burn out too hard from hyper focusing on a game that should be about enjoying the characters you like
Even 3k is big, but you always gotta expect 300 tbfh
tbh lowkey same but i see people in the 100k area and i'm like oh! but i feel like once u reach the 10k mark it gets easier to save
yeah, it’s pretty insane, idk if i’ll ever reach that point ||since every month im tempted by at least one pair||
don't worry i still use some of my paid gems for selects and mix LOL so it's not too bad
personally, what i did was leave the salt channel in my channels list and delete the flex channel from it
same... december killed me but we are slowly recovering
it helped me a lot, seeing salty people helps me not fall into temptation as evil as it kinda sounds
i did the same actually, seeing the flex channel would always make me want to impulse pull, and then i'd regret it right after. for me it's hidden rn
They’re good spaces to have but can definitely be quite distracting
november killed me so i had to spend the first half of december recovering 
salt is sort of comforting to me in a way? like, it reminds me to not recklessly pull for characters i can't reach pity for or i don't even really want
right that’s the same for me, ofc like post pity clairity said, everyone is different. i just benefit more leaving the salt channel on
who'd u pull for in november
for sure
||ss ingo and emmet. don’t do what i did bc i fell for temptation on emmet without a pity saved and didn’t get him with 8 multis 💀||
NOOO so you didn't end up getting him?? 
||i got him a multi later and ingo in 3 multis but it was still painful 😭 had to spend the last half of november and the first half of december saving since the datamine revealed nc kantrio||
i did the same for ||nc leaf||, although it wasn't that many multis, i think 2 or 3? but yeah either way was a waste of gems, i don't even want her 😭
oughh that is ROUGH but luckily you got ||all three|| from what i remember so it all worked out fine in the end
but see this is why i can't have flex channel on, i see people pulling 3 mfs in under 20k gems and i think to myself "if they're that lucky i could be too" and then boom all my savings gone
yeah, it worked out just fine, it definitely made up for the misfortune i had in november. i was originally gonna skip ||atticus|| bc i was absolutely certain at least one of the three would take me to pity but it ended up ||not happening||
but i also get the urge to flex in it whenever i get something good 
now look at you almost having enough to pity him
you recovered well enough i'd say
yeah that’s why i deleted flex channel, the temptation is bound to get you and 70% of the time you’ll regret it
yesss, it’s a personal achievement but it feels great. i’m sure you can do it too for whoever you’re waiting for!
yesss my most wanted characters are ||nc nate, rosa, and silver|| those are my top 3
i know the latter came out last year(?) so he won't be back for a while
actually i don't even know
mfs are always so unpredictable
I gotta say, you should always consider skipping on something even if you get lucky even if it's a character you like but not a top fave, because you're still treading on a very thin line around half anni where a single shaft could lead you with no gems for a much rarer pair
Usually they rerun around 18 months after release
Those are ||December 2023 and 4.5 Anni|| so maybe they’re close
i have a feeling ||nate and rosa|| could possibly rerun this year but it’s uncertain. whenever they do, if the gems in at least the next two months are generous enough, you can probably guarantee one of them
you're absolutely right, i'll definitely keep that in mind, half anni is bound to have something good but i mustn't be swayed unless it's actually one of my top 3
100%, more pairs per month = higher chance of a favorite and the same gem count we’ve always had isn’t doing as much as it used to
oh i didn't know, so there is a pattern after all
possibly yeah,
i don’t see ||nc silver|| coming back anytime soon since he’s not a year old yet
Pattern would suggest the last pair you mentioned is ||run up to 6th anni||
it doesn't look like the gem count is going up anytime soon but who knows
yeah i didn't think so either
I mostly was referring to @elder topaz ||about going for Atticus "because they got lucky on kantrio" which can end up biting back if half anni has a 1% or two they'd want more, since pokefairs have selects and much better rerun than 1% banners||
i’m fully f2p so
oh my bad lmao but either way it's good advice in general 
i see, good to know
then that means i've got 3 mfs ahead of me if those three really do rerun in the next few months
but i think i'll be fine
It’s tight but much better to realize it now than later on
still don’t have enough for a pity but i’m starting to break old habits now at least 
it is but i have a feeling i'll be fine considering i've started to build better habits now
yeah same LOL
i guess i have been fixated on this a lot lately, poma's been my latest hyperfixation
but i'm sure it'll pass soon bc it always does
My prediction is Nate & rosa rerun in late Feb/march and nc silver in preanni
So you SHOULD get all 3
when would pre anni be?
Like August 10 or so
oh august is more than enough time
Last year we had the Galar NCs on the world’s shortest banners and those were August 18/19/20 and surely DeNA heard the complaints over the runtime there
but yeah i have a very strong feeling ||nate and rosa|| are up next, apart from a new unit idk who else would be rerunning next
Nate & Rosa would be in 2-2.5 months tho
Imo
wait they ran for 3 days?????
1 week
what the hell
Marnie ran for 10, Hop for 9, and Bede for 8. Those are the start dates for all 3
All ended right on anni
they'll drain me for sure, but if ||silver|| truly does rerun in august i'll be able to recover and save enough just in time
oh yeah i remember this... i couldn't grab Marnie fast enough
Gems left for this month ??
yeah after today’s gems are claimed it’s high 17k
NOOO im gonna cry we have like 13.7k remaining before ||NC Blue banner ends|| and im gonna be short 1280 gems to || pity him
||
Wait actually I think I should be fine no?
How much ||banner points left||? @nimble vapor
Oh yeah I currently have || 232 scout points||
Which is 15.3k off
And they reach around 15.2-4k
He should barely just be fine
Depends if they get EVERY gem
UB included
Or if they have more leftovers
Like from older events or UBs
Or sync pair stories
Yeah I feel like I’ll be able to scoop up some more gems from UB once I get || AS Steven and SS Lear to 3/5 and 4/5||
Don’t forget next reset the last day on the co-op rayquaza event. Get your gems and free 20 yellow coins there.
I'm quite low on paid gems and not likely to restock any time soon. I can afford a select scout and was wondering if I should spend now, or wait until half anni? Or are there no selects at half anni
Waiting Half anni or stacking for anni is likely better
Annoying event
Can someone link me to the gem count for this month? It won’t show up for me on pins
Here
Thank you 🙏🏽
i’m getting to a pity slowly
it would be SUCH a shame if the new academy event has a mission requiring 2 paldea characters yeah surely that won’t happen right!!!!! hahahahahahahahahaha dena totally learned from last time!!!!! 
if that were to come true, id lock myself out of getting 200 gems!
We only have 1 F2P Paldean still right?
think so 
Even if DeNa add paldea spotlight, we wont get it via tickets till after anni 
I wonder what units would they turn into spotlight considering they have been pretty solid compared to general pool units
Or if theyll just start releasing spotlights
It’s like the pre-Hop Galar era only it never ends
Actually we had spotlights then
Kofu 
I was gonna say the academy staff but even jacq is a pf
Paldea legendary adventures please 
Who will get the short end of the stick koraidon or miraidon
|| I finally got NC Blue! I’m pretty happy now that I don’t have to use anymore gems on his banner! Now my next objective is to save for Dahlia for whenever she reruns||
||If I have 171 pity i can still get ss giovanni, right?||
|| unfortunately I don’t think you will, you need 21k to get to pity and we have around 14k remaining this month, unless February gives us a boat load of gems during the time SSA Gio is around.||
Damn...
||i do still got like 9 days of 200 paid gems and 19 days of 100 to get but idk if that'd help much||
|| 3.7k + 14k = 17.7k
You would need another 3k so maybe it is possible!||
🙏
||ty btw that does make me feel a bit more better||
||i do need to stop pulling once i get him tho and since my roster is more solid i think it should be more solid once I get him||
Im okay for the rest of this month. I will spend 125 gems for poma day and 500 gems for eggcelerator pass for tentacool and muk eggmon
Sooo about 30k nonpaid gems into Last day of January huh
Hopefully we hit 36k gems for february
A part of me hopes that I don't get pity by the time ||nc leaf|| leaves so I can save but like I really want the entire ||nc kantrio||
I might be able to get pity cuz I'm not done with all the permanent gem sources
just 6k more for a full pity
i could have gotten an extra 1k but the lodge decided to be an asshole to me 🙃
Will you get it next reset?
yeah
literally 2 friendship points away from lvl 100 for my 20th guest
How many gems before || NC Leaf || leaves?
Leaves around the 25th i think but better spoiler the unit name
Spoiler the name;O
32k gems now. think i should be able to save up to a pity by the 17th
I think I'm starting to save again
Is this a reasonable favorites list to save up for?
I mean its your list, personally I don’t think anyone should judge who you’re saving up for 
agreed, but we could offer some advice if necessary
i feel like you will struggle to save for each listed character, if you are not willing to spend irl money
the list is quite long so it's recommended to reduce its size
Like 5?
bianca, lyra, and chuck are all spotlights so you'll get those eventually
unless you're wanting to pull for their alts as well like sygna suit lyra or neo champion bianca, those are harder to come by
Mfw i focus more on the pokemon than on the trainer 
ohh all right. I got chuck and regular lyra.
I’m finally back
33k now
Well time to save till anni 5.5
How much on avg gems do we get on the coming February
It's variable I think
I know a good portion would be around 27-28th
but that would be in March datamine
#1012256199128915968 message gives last February’s estimate if you want that as a reference point
Holy fuck what a satisfying number
We need to know your methods. How do we get that HOLY number on our stack?
Don’t spend gems 
Abstinence
We also have #1010223517565976737 message for that 
Is it possible to go 600k?
Just wondering that I think non paid gems don't have a max limit
Thank you
tons and tons of self discipline and planning plus playing everyday
Chest reach 1 million gems so far so yes
i kinda doubt there is a max limit
Nani!?
or if there are, maybe 10 mil
The dedication. I bet it took 3 years to reach 1 million
Cause the average gems is like 300k per year
yeah
Well, props for the self discipline and also as an example to give motivation others for this milestone
Proud of you!
thank you, I tried my best to inspire others to save hard
and to give tips when they need it from time to time
You're a moderate spender?
yeah fairly
Or being lucky with pulls in anni banners?
i go every 3 months spending arc suits and master fairs
Ahh
||I got Gio on Dallies today, you can check the flex channel||
thanks
sure
yes ive been there
tho i dont see the point tbh
nice
You guys are killing it, my most was 230k+
although now i need to recover a bit, gonna get close to 98k at the end of this datamine. Cannot reach 100k 
my most was 78k 💀
You can do it!
Most I've ever gotten is 250k, then I got hit by anni and back to back faves 
250k is a lot lol that’s fine as a most
This month is chill tho so I should be able to get back to 200k by the end of it
Hopefully February won't be too crazy
february is the runner’s up month to half anni so i’m hoping the march datamine isn’t crazy either 
besides i’m like 99% sure that ||ortega will be added in february and he’s an absolute must get for me||
Cant wait to start saving once i get ||giogio guzzlord||
Im hoping that February is kinda safe for me. But there's still 3 of my faves that have heart related motifs that might pop up. Enamorus (heart symbol hair), Manaphy (heart swap), Phione (manaphy's offspring)
They might popup for palentine
My only hope is that we get MFs and not AFs for the half anni 
Realistically it will be a combination of the two
AF, man ssgio event shows me that i probably need to prepare for arc gio mewtwo, mewtwo is a fave 
do we typically only get one mf (or arc fair ig) as the “bait” unit leading up to annis and half annis?
My call on that is that he's gonna get sniped by volo probably
Dont worry volo can grab the fairy arc suit 
He just got a mf, I doubt Gio is getting anything before 2027 lol
There is no pattern now to follow since arcs are new
Fairy? When giratina is right there?
Then it wont be an arc, because arc are reskins. Based on current 4 arcs
Point is, volo might get ultimately not looking for an arc suit for himself, while Gio is, but since we don't know what volos endgame is anyway
Also thinking arc can only be reskins is an assumption
And I don't think SS Gladion can be counted as "bait" because we didn't get 3 new masterfairs in anni, but 2. So with him, it's a trio which was the usual thing for anniversaries
That's based on the fact all arcs for now are "popular champion with their iconic ace mon'
Thinking arc volo giratina is an assumption too
Which is like

Yeah?
I literally just wrote
It doesn't have to be an arc
Bruhv
I never assume its champion only, i only assumed its reskin
And what did I answer to that
Did i wrote champion only though

Like
Did you read what I wrote
I never implied the story volo alt would've been an arc suit
I literally just said it's much more likely it's a giratina pair
You went off on your own

The problem is the one assuming champion is you 
So you went off on your own

Everyone knows there's no 18 champions. Paldea is gen 9
Unless you want to count nemona, geeta, mc
Protags
Alder, N, Iris
Probably could stretch
?
I said the repeating factor comes mostly from "champions having their ace as ultimate buddy" is the basis for 4/4 arcs
The moment they stop being champions, the "repeat rule" could change
Back at 0
But i didnt mention that Arc suits are champion only. I even mentioned arc suit giovanni before and fairy arc suit volo togepi, also mentioned that it just reskins then suddenly you mentioned about 18 champions so like what?
Who is the one that assumed its for champions only
Its you though
Lol
They are reskins, AS is to improve a pair kit thats too hefty to work on and even PB and 5/5 grids cannot even save em so DeNa like just reskin them and give em a white suit, give a totally new kit and a new price
Thanks, where are you at right now
Remind me again, Arc Leon showed up 3 months after the first Arc batch right?
Yes
Thanks
It's the opposite
My assertion is that they're not gonna be only champions and there's not that many iconic pairings that cover all types anyway, so they could try something that's not a reskin
Then why you say 18 champions though if you assume the same as me?
Because
I never assume its champion only, like even in fighting type is clear. I only mentioned that it will be reskin
So they will upgrade base pair so probably Rei will be fighting AS
Dark is either Akari or Iris hydreigon which seems unlikely because dragon
I think it will be akari, although i do hope for Iris because her kit need more help than akari. So might as well give her white reskin
But so far its base pair, so probably akari
The one thats not SC, or SS, or seasonal or etc
- you say arc are by definition reskins based on 4 pairs as of now
- I say they're reskins as of now mostly because they're reselling the most iconic characters (champions) with their aces, so this might lead to more than reskins once they run out of champions SINCE THERE'S NOT 18 OF THEM
Cursing Lance for stealing the dragon arc suit from iris 😔
So you are the one that assumed about champions in this discussion. Thanks for giving clarity
I even mentioned Arc suit gio, he aint champion
How can my reading comprehension dead when the one that said first about champion and 18 champions was you?
How is it my fault when you are the one bringing it up
I really can't fathom how you read what I now explained 2 times and say that
- you bring up an assumption based on the fact 4 arc fairs are repeats
- the 4 arc repeats are also coincidentally champions with their ace
- I say "as long as it's champions, ofc it's gonna be reskins, as they're all in with that ace already, but that can't be the case for all arcs as there's not 18 champions"
- now I'm the one assuming all arcs are gonna be champions????????
At point 2, coincidentally champions. But i didn't mentioned anything about only champions so who is the one that assumed?
Am I missing something
See
...ok so reading comprehension IS dead
No reason to keep going.
👋
Why mine is dead, when you are the one thats assuming then you blaming it on me
Internet is weird

Other people assumed then said another person assumed what they assumed
What are you talking about.
You can see from the top, i never mentioned it will be champion only, i said it will be reskin. So even AS Lear or Gio can happen. Then i said its base pair, and still never mentioned anything about AS being champions only
There's no assumption
These are facts:
- 4/4 arcs are champions
- there won't likely be 18 arc champions
Why is it so hard to understand
I never implied you said that
You are the one that Assumed it will be champions only
Never
Ever
Ever
Like, it's so obvious
I'd expect a person with basic reading comprehension
To get there
The one mentioned about 18 champions was you, and i said everyone knows theres not even 18 champions exist as the game only gen 9. And we could have more if we stretched abit with Iris, Alder, N, Nemona, Geeta, Wallace because some regions got more than 1 champions
Like, I doubt it can be explained more directly than how I did here
My "18 champions mention" is a phrase that says "there's NOT 18 CHAMPIONS, SO THEY EVENTUALLY NEED TO STEM FROM THEM"
How does this make me the person implying all arcs will be champions is over me
Like
Seriously
How.
How is this discussion real.
What are we even talking about here.
At point 2, the one thats assumed its champions only was you and you mentioned about 18 champions. I said even before this about Arc suit Gio, then we talked about arc suit volo, then i say he can get Fairy AS, then you say why togepi and not pair with giratina, then i say AS is a reskin so wont be new pairing. Then you talked about champion and we dont even have 18 champions. So i say who mentioned that AS is champion only? And then you blame me... This is the flow of the discussion
I mean you did bring up champions first as far as I’ve read all the chats
With 18 lol
See
No fucking way
Can you guys like
Know
How a discussion works
Or are you like
Trolling me
Thats why i said, who is the one that assumed it will be champions only
Because I can't believe this
LITERALLY WHERE
YOU MEAN IN THE PHRASE WHERE I SAY
"IT CANNOT BE CHSMPIONS ONLY"????
I'm gonna actually go insane
Lol
This is not a real discussion
This is the top if anybody want to read
"lol"
Because who needs context
After all
See who posted that

....
Me neither
But you accused me of it? Because I said it's not?
Because your base assumption is based on the fact all 4 arcs are champions + ace?
Like
Because i know they wont go that route
Ok you're doing this on purpose
There's no
No way
You're just cycling the same phrases over and over
Even natwaf read all that and say you are the one that mentioned anything about champions first, i only mentioned reskin
I just gonna leave this, anything that makes you happy. Mod can read all of it, i wont delete any posts
Two whole people saying me pointing out " 4/4 arcs are champions which can't be a thing for all 18 arcs as there's not 18 champions anyway" equals to "all future arcs will be champions" is insanity
I feel like a victim of a candid camera right now
Genuinely nauseous
I'm gonna actually have to take a chamomile
I think people can
Just scroll up
Yknow
Also you could've included the part where I say why I bring the "18 champions" phrase up
Instead of cutting it to your convenience
But it's fine
Gonna actually start brewing this chamomile rn
I already bring it multiple times but theres no changes
Its to see the flow of the discussion
I swear to god if I wake up to more people saying this I'm gonna start blaming elementary school programs being less and less invested into from most first world countries
I already letting go then you keep replying
Does this discussion need to keep happening in this channel?
I want to end this Chezei, i want to rest my brain
Then cut it out. If you're done, stop talking. That's all that needs to happen.
You're both done, both of you go take a break.
I'm brewing chamomile as we speak
Then going to bed
Because this discussion gave me nausea and migraine
Stop talking.
Which isn't the best when trying to sleep
495k
Me trying to figure out who Reskin is and what their English name is
It's pronounced Ray's K-ai-n
Saving friends, I cannot tell you how annoyed I am I save for Johto pairs and then be told Kriketune and Guzzlord are Johto
Probably easy right, its been a while for a Johto pair to pop up before HBugsy
Plus luckily they skipped johto mix pairs 
Before HBugsy the last summonable Johto pairs were like NC Silver and Chuck
Yep, quite a long time to save if you are actually focusing only on johto
Mmhmm
Hope this year is quite tame for me. 2022 released 20 faves, luckily 2024 only gives 12. Hope 2025 like 2024 
Nice
How long have you been saving for???
Very long time
I play every day and save constantly with occasional pulls
Just a reminder that saving is done for a reason, as nothing is owed and bad luck will destroy you if you keep wasting resources
But by saving you can at least guarantee something even out of absolutely horrendous unlucky streaks
man, you got everyone but the character you actually wanted 
||getting only two 4.5% units in a pity is less likely than pitying an arc fair||
||Yeah, I wanted Paulo, which arrived on 8th multi after 4th multi blue. Kept going in hope of getting anything more, but nothing||
8th multi, ouch
a ||pokefair|| shafting you is rough 
||94.5% likely to get 3+ featureds Vs 86% of not pitying||
REMINDER: Do the Shiny Rayquaza Exchanges! They end very soon!
just 1.6k more 🥲
Man the urge to yolo on ||nc leaf|| is insane
Persist :<
To avoid tempting others to pull, well its a resource saving place

So, i switched OS because of christmas
and after pitying, I now have an emergency pity piggy bank lmao
Currently have 12k unpaids on the new phone now too :)
My emergency piggy bank is the UBs, when its a hassle to clear, i just leave it 
Although my current available funds are still quite nice
so gems stay on the other os? I thought they just got deleted
yeah, they stay on the os thankfully lol
so as long as you still have a phone for the old os you can hold onto them separately
interesting
When I transferred data to a new phone, my gems stayed as well.
Does pity points progress stays? Like if you spend 12k gems on iphone, it still need 24k to pity on android?
It does
me when i got Only SS hilbert in the UnoVA triple rerun banner up to pity. man hilbert why did you do that
single copy, btw
lmao
0.013 chance....
less chance than pulling a masterfair or arc pair on a daily. XD
ive been forever quoting this as my bad luck example but i never actually did the math haha
Thank you, now i will feel more assured after i upgrade my device. Its getting older now, some of the games ive played no longer being supported for my phone 
well the gem count is 900 tomorrow but i can’t get the ub gems so 600 for me 
that should bring me to 36.1k gems though
What is “p”?
P = Probability, P=0.045 means it’s a 4.5% chance to get a success (getting a unit)
That’s the odds of getting zero pulls, Joltik was finding the odds of getting exactly 1
That’s 1.32% not 0.0132%, it’s higher than getting an MF/AF from daily
i did mean it as 0.0132 = 1.32% sorry that wasn't clear, but i thought MF/Arc was 1.5% oops
shows how much i pay attention to rates 

u probably will not bother with Dana's stage for a very long time, shit is a pain to deal with
When I thought Nita was bad enough lmfao
I will leave it to my son and then grandson to clear it
i dislike it if it needs too much effort
I should put PoMa in my will. They need to continue to collect legendary, mythical, UB, paradox
Eos will happen before ur son trust
Nooo
i like this game, hope it goes offline even with eos. Like the megaman gacha game
Offline game preservation would be very nice, but I seriously doing DeNA would put in the effort to preserve it lol
Only producers that care about their game do it 
Yea but how would that work
The regular event will keep repeated means the daily missions as a source to get gems and all banners will always be available as there's no more future updates. Iirc thats how it goes for megaman
At least your progress and roster wont turn to dust
So I’m looking at ||mela|| right now, and she looks super fun. ||Armarouge|| rules so I’d call her a fav. Problem is my fire roster is really good right now (||nc leaf, v. Marnie, glorialt, SS May||) so I don’t need her at all
I know favs > meta and all that but is it still worth it at this point? I could wait for another fav seeing as I barely have enough for a pity rn
well yea
or else whats the point of playing the game lol
yea by imo
if u wanna go by favs
its generally better to go for trainers
since technically u can get mons in games
but each to its own of cos
Nah I get that
I like the Pokémon first but I wouldn’t pull for ||armarouge|| if it was on like
Idk Clavell
oh for sure lol
ahhh im almost 500k but i really wanted the nice number before ||going for mela today||
Well the good thing is for recent faves, they are rarely bad so there is a good chance that your faves have meta kit as well. And most content in PoMa are clearable and doesnt need like a 99,999 damage unit most of the time
So i would say faves are more important than non fave meta characters
I think unless we get pvp, faves will still be good. Because usually pvp will go to big damage units and team synergies that hook people to keep pulling units
honestly i prefer mons above trainers
like idk, i play for the funny critters you can catch and get, idrc much about the trainers besides unova and paldea 😭
- you see the pokemon more than the trainers gameplay wise besides sync and trainer moves
fair take
personally im a trainers kind of person bcause that's why im a pokemon fan in the first place, though i do think some pokemon would make me pull also
doing LA solos with lodge elesa joltik is great XD
You are not the only one, I'm also like you. Pokemons > Trainers 
Although i only collect legendaries, mythicals, UBs, paradoxes
||now the icon is one of my faves so it will be harder to not fall into the temptation of pulling... 😔 ||
37k gems!!!
||although i’m also kinda tempted by mela bc armarouge is my fave gen 9 pokémon but we are prioritizing atticus and a potential ortega!!!!!!||
Trainers are the only thing I care about here honestly
are the gift gems counted for the gem count
No
no
Save
Yeah that’s the plan
Datamine wont be too long as well. In #datamines talked about we getting ticket or something on 24th so it will probably be around that time
Ooo!!! Free ticket?
Kinda?
But its include, they might make it a 5* spotlight with a chance of limited 
https://www.pokemon.jp/special/trainers_festival/20250110/ This is the original webpage. The code is given if you buy the booster box for the upcoming tcg set.
Yeah the ticket won't be free lol 
Sad
Do we even have code redeem function currently?
They probably need to do update to add that function
They're adding redeem function on the upcoming update
Nice so datamine is probably 24th or earlier
That's why 24th is the speculated date, since the set would be out by then
I love early datamine
So people that are currently tempted just wait for less than 10 days 
Shiny grimer sadly doesn’t seem that good, no substitute for other units
Tentacruel is pretty nice tho
I just want it because its shiny. But still no luck currently, i even bought the extra incubator and eggcelerator pass 
I blame dena because there's no non eggmon muk unit 
Believe in Arc Koga for poison
True, but i dont like crobat much. Got soft spot for kabutops, machamp and muk for kanto non legendary
At least 1 of em is free
, other 2 are eggmons only 
sucks smeargle will never come to pokemon masters 😔
I hope it will come
, just dont give it sketch if its too hard to implement. Maybe give it nature power and secret power to imitate like it can cover various types of damage
Resisting the urge to do random pulls for ||atticus|| despite not needing him 🥰
Same, i keep telling myself that i can select him in the future. As for me, spending potentially a pity is way more expensive than a 3k/5k paid gems select 
It defo is 😔
Although it will be a while, next support select will be Arven first as he already got lodge. Spending 3k/5k for 2 pairs feel less burdensome than just for 1 
Feb Datamine will have your #1 favourite character 
||It’s what I’m telling myself||
Oh right next month is kinda dangerous especially if they release a fave run up MF. They like that trend recently, like ssgladion and ssnemona were released on run up month iirc
Red?
Alola Red 
Hisui Red
Homeless Red
Red except hes the pokemon
Arc suit red
|| ' My aim in this game is to catch all reds ' ||
||Was a fool and pulled for Mela without a pity, so I'm back at the bottom||
I'll try and be more active here. Keep me accountable guys
I gotta get myself back into actually playing the game……….
I keep saying I’ll save and then i just don’t play
Have some side goals to help you saving, like i made EXing power boosted units, getting lodge pairs and get shiny eggmons as side goals to sidetracked me from thinking of pulling any non faves within the month
Oh i also made, EXing pairs that have sync related passive on base kit as side goal as well
These will keep you busy enough, and remove the pulling itch especially in month where there's no fave
almost forgot the friendship event ended this reset - squeezed in my battle challenge clears just under the wire haha
i know its safer to do them straight away but i keep doing Bare Minimum on pokemas on most days 😅 so i end up doing them right before theyre due
alright, got everything i wanted this month, we broke again
||time to save up in case ortega is next month 🤡||
Same
||I randomly pulled again for the double pokefair (aaaaa)||
||At least I got a SS Roxie duplicate 2 pulls in but still 😭||
Double ||pokefair*||
|| yolo’d 2 ten pulls on nc leaf send help. ||
||Feb 28th is half anni, you need to start saving immediately, if your Fave is a new Arc Fair they’ll really drain you!||
Do the NY Exchanges everyone!
The ny wallace one?
Well i gotta save starting today
Isn’t NY Wallace ending on Friday
Oh you meant the other shop lol
Thanks lol had a few move coins I forgot to get
Thanks, i almost missing 1 sprint and field cake coins 
What a nice round number
||I’ll probably skip Atticus, but at least since he’s a Support Sync Pair he’ll likely be added to selects, unlike the Sprint/Field Pairs. Electric HS means Arc N is definitely a high possibility, or something with Miraidon||
oh yeah we might get those two for half anni, better save up in case they’re fun
I could use more electric fave
, not sure about ||koraidon|| though, my fighting fave pairs are kinda stacked
I hope they come for anni because ill likely have gems by then 😭
- besides ||Eri|| my fighting roster is DRY
My sad types roster currently are ground (12 pairs) and bug (10 pairs) 
Like i got ground boost this week for rally and its rough
February is usually valentine pairs right?
… or friendship I guess
Yep but i forgot if it will be early feb or late feb, maybe early as mid-late is probably for run up to half anni stuffs
Yeah makes sense to drop early
I’ll try to work on getting shiny eggmons to keep me busy. Can one of you guys ping the hell out of me if datamine happens and Ball Guy shows up so I know I have to laser lock in
Hopefully I don’t grow too repetitive but I gotta post this perfect gem count number that I perfected
A perfect 4 digit 0 to cap of the month before Pokemon Masters Day will wreck my number a bit
Anyway going to go post this on reddit and label it as an AMA like I’m Chest
back to 15k. i got everyone i wanted this patch, ||mela and roxie thankfully came home early||, but i seriously have got to stay focused once and for all now and keep my eyes on the goal ||(any of the unova ncs)||. should probably stop pulling on ||mix|| as well and save my streak gems instead 
also half anni is coming up and we're definitely getting something good but if it's ||arc suits|| then easy skip
||i also stop pulling mix, well at least till after half anni, i need the paid gems to do selects
||
||you're right i need to save my gems for selects as well
mix is a scam anyway, better off doing selects
||
The urge to do a yolo multi on ||nc leaf|| is insane
Hope DeNa continues giving a new team up pair every run up to anni
so far victrier, riley, nidoak all released during run up 
A new what?
Team up event pair
Like oak nidorino
Victrier
Riley
Mistyduck, cgiovanni
So far recent 3 team up pairs, were all released during run up month. Next month is a run up month
Oh right that.
Ahh right
Anni 2025 steven brown recolor outfit with field regirock 
I DIDNT KNOW THAT PITY WAS 37K!!! THE GOAL IS IN SIGHT!!!!!!
Trying to skip as much as I can so I have 50k saved guaranteed
36k
It's closer to 37k than 36k
36.6k
Yes
I hope next reset is datamine, and not thursday the 30th
It’s between the 24th/27th-29th usually
Yeah i know thursday won't actually happen but technically it could and that scares me lmao
Hoping that there's a new free team up event pair next month. And hope its either Mira or Buck 
Back to 200k 
So I now have 73,305 Gems, meaning I have 2 sparks.
Nice 
20k mark reached once again. i should be able to guarantee at least one ||master fair|| by the time the next one comes around
||if the frogs are rerunning, i'm safe because i only want serena, but if it's the unova ncs i'm on thin ice
trying to hold myself accountable here so i don't spend my paid gems on mix anymore
||
||i did multiple pulls on N's banner for no reason|| 💀 
Its okay, happens to the best of us
||50k but man I really wanna pull rn
||
The saving continues.
Btw everyone don’t forget to do the Photo Creator Missions!
I just don’t want someone to wait until the last day to do them all at once just to forget 
I forgor to do today's
If only someone reminded me of the team rocket battles :p
a reminder in 3 days time would be fantastic ngl, since that will be the time when all the missions are out
At least rocket battles have an exclamation mark. Photo missions are just somewhere.
They could at least do a pop up notif for it everytime after reset to let people know lol
Almost forgot about it if i didn’t look in this channel, thanks.
True true
I was just sad that I missed out on 600 gems
But like I don't do rallies so it's not the first time
Well….. looks like this month is a skip month in its entirety
At least i get to save…
I’m so tired
this is the middest of mid datamines
||i feel so sick, koraidon and miraidon and i have only 3k sigh.... and half anni is next month||
||someone please stop me from pulling atticus dupes bc ortega isn’t in the mine||
||3 faves, luckily i saved up 100k gems
||
Easy skip month for me thankfully
I’ll have Arc pity by halfversary phew
Hopefully they would still be around throughout half anni lol
can we create a gem zen gym
I hope so, if its not a preset gym. I kinda worry that the gym is based on the gym leaders
As probably the one from the video are members of Iono gym
Thats why they talk and share Iono photo creator
Oh can already create gyms
free stuff, just group up with people you know who play the game... like actually login, play game modes, and dip.
I will log in daily me thinks i just want a gym 💔
Clavell is free btw
But the other 2 are masterfairs lol
Anw im celebrating LNY so gem calcs will be late
bait before the actual 5.5 anni huh.
I was right when i said they split up the masterfairs into monthly run ups for the arc fairs
24k is good
Already joined a POMA gym haha
Then noticed one of them seems to say last logged in in 30+ days and I’m like what
yay a skip month




