#Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)
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Now that December datamine is out of the way: total faves of 2024 are 11
(2 seasonals, 2 pokefairs, 4 Master fairs, 3 free)
At this rate, 100 faves will probably be on 2026 
Surprised they didn’t split the banner like with the eevee varieties
Ik they were new ones but last year the new ones debuted in a combined banner with the old pairs
Not sure how long they will wait before doing that, its too bloated currently. 
In your dreams
Too sick to enjoy the datamine madness lol
||Damn the only unit I want is in the worst banner||
I missed out the past few years but I saved 60k for ||holiday rosa|| so I'm guaranteed to pity
I saved up candies too so I can 5/5
she only needs 3/5 for maximum grid parameters.
I like maxing all of her units out
Rosa Super Fan moment
I played on and off for a few years so I kept missing out on her holiday alt
but I played properly this year so I could actually get it this time
Exactly 
Nice, thats pure dedication 
Playing properly for a year to grab a unit that you already targeted for years is a commendable effort
Down to 8k because of Leafeon
Grabbing faves, the true essence of this game
Only justifiable gem spending
Guys should I go for ||Arc Leon || Or || NC Blue||
I think ||NC Blue|| is more optimal in your circumstance
you did mention of only having 8K
Yea
Yeap thats the more realistic option
I still have story and undone events
And legendary rena
Arena
from chapter 9-21 on hardmode
Probably clear those first, and see how much the actual gem you can get before attempting to pull
Okay thanks
Especially because ||leon need 45600 gems to pity iirc due to 500 pity points||
Under 27k?
Really?
I expected 30k
Well I hope January is slightly better, like it usually is
hmm i feel like there'll be more gems on 27 onwards, but, its pretty nice.
Oh sweet I'll be back to 200k+ by the end of the month
Quite nice
Although -300 for ebe, and i need to prepare to lose gems in case arc leon fight will be hard
Close enough
Im a bit happy because its more than 24k gems ... November only has 22300 gems 
Fr? How much

26750 here
Ohhhh, ty! 
Yeap, as long as the average is more than 24k, i can cope. Because 24k is like 2/3 pity. If DeNa only give 1/2 pity amount then thats harsh 
Good times
2021

Scouting 2 seasonals, 1 MF and 2 pokefairs in Anni 1.5 with 40k gems in 2 months...
shivers
nani? so high
27k gems not bad
Not bad
Is ||nc leaf|| better than ||AS Leon||?? I really want ||Leon|| cuz i got no fire but like idk if hes really good
This isn’t the place to ask this, but to answer your question: she has more utility and he has more damage
||but overall I’d say she’s better||
It kinda fits for me cuz i was wondering if i should just straight up not pull
||and depending on your gem situation rn you'd actually be able to guarantee pity her unlike leon||
Saving gemm
This^^
Wait lol I can’t pity him even if I wanted to
It’s always the safest option
Who decided he’d be for 2 weeks right after the datamine
Considering how many great units we have this month, it’s better to choose them carefully
||yeah im skipping arc leon as im kinda set on fire types||
Remember: if your heart is wavering, save your gems
spoiler
dont thjink i can clear the UB for that 300 gems, but everything else is fair game .-./
It’s dragon weak right?
i'm looking at 44k gems before Dec 28th
What I’ve been doing recently is beating past ubs that I can now beat after better units releasing to compensate for the current month’s
dunno if u didn’t already beat em before though
Since like July
Or august idk
I've beaten them all
im currently at about 60k gems, and im hoping to come out of this month with a similar amount
||theres 1 unit i have to get because its a fave, holiday lillie, but i should be able to skip everything else||
i have a ton of sync pair stories i need to do so thats probably an extra 500 or so gems
So are Hoenn NCs just never going to come? Really?
I think the time of NC is long gone
Similarly to how they won’t bring the (anni 20XX) unless it’s for some free unit or something
Sigh.
Of course.
My motivation to save right now is actually down the drain
Because what are the odds we’ll get another Hoenn Arc Suit?
or more than 1 Hoenn seasonal in a given month?
I already ||pulled for Irida and am now below pity again||
Just noticed how shitty 1% odds actually are
After this happened with me
I scouted on 11 mf (12 actually but the first was reroll so I’m not counting), spending a grand total of 284400 gems on all of them
On average, that’d be 25855 gems spent per unit.
Since it’s 1% per mf, that means the expectancy is 100 pulls per unit (on average). Meaning that it’d take about 9 multis, or 27000 per unit.
This means that I actually am UNDER odds and am being lucky (?) with my mf streak up until now, even though I feel absolutely shafted
Keep in mind this is because I don’t take into account that pity ≠ rolling for the unit (it’s a guarantee, which is different)
Is it?
Yeah
I thought it was less
Vs 73% for 2% banners
Breh
That 2nd one seems crazy
ugh im bouta do such an "erm actually" moment
93% on 2%
73% on 1%
Ye
yeah
My bad lil
nw
Lol
oh yeah
So 1/15 and 1/4~
||And the candy option is better too! ||
and the animation is different / unique
||I feel like his 3/5 grid is only slightly better than nc cheren's? like it doesnt have that much utility||
||really, pulling him is for galar / leon stans and meta chasers||
Same
you guys exist?
||but I'm keeping all his other ALTs instead|| because 3/4 arcs are scams
I have ||his dragapult and eternatus but eternatus is pretty mid imo||
Cynthia is the only real "suit"
Duh
He's an extremely fun character with a really good background
And some very interesting shading in narrative
He's surely less bland than gen 1-7 champions to me
I prefer him over most champions personality wise
He also kinda 😳
Especially on ||eternatus costume, shame hes like useless at least on 1/5||
Blue is just "annoying rival" until retcon
Lance is just a generic placeholder
Steven has literally negative depth
Cynthia's depth is "I like archeology and watching plot unfold without doing shit"
Alder is probably the saving grace of champions until then but gets relegated to post game
Iris is fun as hell as both a fight and as a design but we never get much out of her
Diantha is... Cynthia but worse (I like acting and watching the plot unfold without doing anything)
Hau is 💀
Kukui is fun too but as a final flat it's really weak as hell
hows geeta
Geeta is actually really interesting to me
I think she's extremely misunderstood as a character
Shes utterly uncapable of holding back (how bad her og team is
)
I really like geeta
despite most people saying shes weak
her team goes crazy in rematch
I mean other games allowed you to
It doesnt make much sense but like they can find a way
People relegate her role as the one of the "regular champion" you should not beat unless MC while her role is more of a final test you're meant to beat if you're mature/studied enough, and she built up her "I can't hold back" façade because of Nemona destroying her the previous year without even going serious on her "final test" team, so to avoid that happening again she basically lies to you so you don't hold back yourself
This is just a mixture of cope, canon background info and the way her and nemona interact
But then again, that's also why you can't refight E4 & Geeta, because you're already promoted past that test
It's not a challenge you're meant to go through multiple times
What about past e4s besides alola and galar
Yeah alola and galar make sense to replay e4 because its defending your title or funny pwt like tournament but what about other games
It's just a matter of RPG mechanics or replayability and post game scaling mechanics for gen 1-2-3-4 imo
And in general a way to make you think they went and trained/improved themselves after losing to you
I think in those gems you arent really defending your title
you kinda accept the champions are staying there since you're too busy with something else
I always felt like the e4-champion rechallenge is just the game saying "your title is just saved as backup because you're too young to be a champion or E4" and are basically put in a list to become the next elite trainer to end up in the league once you're mature enough
It's also why I really don't like alola
The champion defending his title being a 10yo is kinda cringe
Tbf pokemon games just make no sense most of the times so replaying e4 for the funsies shouldnt be too much problem
Yeah, I think paldea has that reason to not let you
Because I really doubt it's a lazyness thing
As it wouldn't really be hard for them to just up levels and keep same moves if they wanted to
we got the gem count?
Do we have the daily gem breakdown?
I'm gonna be around 260k free gems and basically nothing to use them on
Can't wait for when they'll drown me in reruns I want + 3 faves getting arc suits

And I'll get shafted on each and every one of those
i really want ||nc red and blue|| so the gem count will at least guarantee me one of them 
Hopefully you get lucky
January is usually around 30k so you might get both as long as one doesn't get to need pity
awesome, hopefully i get lucky then
i’ll probably just save all my gems until the day before the banner leaves
||ngl holiday bugsy is cute too so it’s a little tempting for me but he definitely won’t be sticking around long enough||
on top of being a resource saving support does this also include money saving support
cause my ass be impulse buying gems to gamble quite often

Yes
It’s gem zen
just remember the game went eos in Vietnam
your country is next
all the money you spent will be for naught

shid
i really need to tone down
specially cause it’s gambling game
but the addiction is too STRONG
I notice Bugsy ends like a day before end of month. Could he potentially appear in NY paid select in such a short turnaround?
I think he could
Do we know a gem count?
And coin count
It's 27k, better than last dec
It's average for Dec iirc
2023 25k
2022 34k
2021 24k
34k?
27k is definitely very much fine
In 2022 I think no?
2022 was a game economy mess
Yeah but u put a wrong digit by mistake
Yeah I missclicked twice
Exactly
Hopefully next month doesn't give us another
Compared to anni

Anni was crazy
What was the highest Gem count Ever in the game I am curious
Unfortunately I’m at less gems right now than I was after anni
in a month
I’d say fire whoever thought of 5th anni but they probably made a ton of money for the game
August this year
Lemme check
Oh they won’t fire a money genius like that one
Actually august 2022 was slightly higher
By like 1-2k gems I think
47k I think
Lemme check
Eh, not as much as they hoped imo
Still far from a bad anni
Which is fine for me
As Anni 3-4 are much worse
In my opinion
This anni didn’t innovate that much
3 had ash, the most bland kits, bait events and bad drip but insane gems
4 had decent event, awful character picks and insane powercreep with awful gems
Also 4 has rocket banner
Arguably the biggest flub ever by DeNa imo
Ash carried tbh
Ash made me sick to my stomach
But he’s ash cmon
His event was one of the worst in the history of poma

Him beating everyone without rhyme or reason and ending with Red looking at him and smiling
Iirc
After they literally teased the two with a fight in PR

Red smiles?
Yeah?
That’s worth 30k gems
Often enough too
But nah that’s bad
Journey Ash is worst ash too which made it extremely more annoying
Yeah I really hope horizon gets a Collab aside this black rayquaza one eventually
Ash interacted with NO ONE from the main line games
I think other mcs look at him fight and comment for some time
But that’s it
Ash only interacted with Tina from the playable units iirc
have we gotten the daily gem breakdown yet
the overall gem count is already on the subreddit. unless you want the daily too. then you just gotta wait for that one i think
I mean 9 multis is not insane
9 multis is one month of gems
With two of my arcs pulls over 9 pulls, yeah 1% sucks.
Although I've had worse pulls in 2% poke fairs...
Both 1-2% sucks
I have 33k right now. It's basically a luck warzone this upcoming month 😭
Depending on what you’re pulling for you got ~2 pairs
Can guarantee one pair this month and one of the Kanto units with January gems
I need kantrio more than that atrocious Leon sry Leon.
Most people have a strong fire option already
Yes... But I'm also a bit tempted just because of the arc title
I only have 1/5 ss red for fire dmger
anyone remember the debates about whether ssred or OG leon is better
But NC blue is like top no.1 I need then NC red if I CAN NC green
||Nc leaf 👀||
Oh yes.. 😅 forgot even name
What’s your gem count rn?
33k I just said above
im out atm
Oh not me
just gotta finish ||adamans|| pity
right before lodge arven shows up and makes my OCD act up 
Real
He’s a pokefair tho right?
Could just pick him up in a paid select if you have the paid for it
I also ||kinda want him just for Nacli|| even if there's PF select later, i still need to grab Kabu and Volo from it
I want arven but im not really a big fan of mabostiff or its moveset (yeah i knew he would most definitely have it but like sucks you cant get lodge without main)
So cant really get arven lodge even if he gets a ss 😔
Yep, it's sad. ||I make this decision because his role overlap with Kabu, so in case pokefair role select happens. I can only select one of em, so better i just grab Arven now||
Also close to 27k gems next month means, i will still be in a comfortable spot
Gonna try to get Volo and Kabu from that select
Others i want are varieties, Proton, Petrel and Ball Guy
Lodge ||adaman and irida are lost case for now, pull them just for lodge are pretty steep especially because they are MF||
Wait no selects for Christmas??
just need another 3k to hit pity
nothing. nada. only 3k gems
right on the ny
theres always a select
unless dena decides to flip the bird at us ofc
Although ny select mostly costs 5k each 
They’ll prob show up
they used to be 3k
3k selects are usually for half anni and anni. Iirc ny always 5k
Although they give 30 units or 20 units select
Still, can be all 3*

Wow, well if its on mix scout. Its good i guess
Im not an avid believer of pulling singles outside mix scout or filling the 396/400 pity points
30k paid for a mix pity tho
Yep but at least your progression are not lost because it get carried over
Like i currently stop pulling mix because i want to save the pity in case a mix fave appear
Wait what’s normal then?
Oh mix scout nvm
I was pulling on pokefairs for a while (regret it) and it’s 50 dailies/5k to hit odds for those
Switched to mix + multi banners still no hits tho 😭😭😭
I learnt my lesson during annilillie, n, steven, ssleon batch. Spend 400 paid gems a day for almost the whole bannet duration and i got 0 featured pairs
Since then, i stop believing on singles
Ouch
The only 3k gem PF selects we had iirc are the ones that only had 3 options
Which were very inconsistent with having who you want
guys do we have gem count this month?
~26k
Yeah, about 26.5k
yey thank you guys
OVERALL TALLY FOR V2.51 (29 November - 31 December)
Gems = 26750
Strike Candy Coin = 9
Tech Candy Coin = 15
Support Candy Coin = 9
Sprint Candy Coin = 6
Field Candy Coin = 6
Move Candy Coin = 24
Strike Roll Cake Coin = 8
Tech Roll Cake Coin = 7
Support Roll Cake Coin = 7
Sprint Roll Cake Coin = 8
Field Roll Cake Coin = 8
5⭐ Power-up = 17
BP = +3060 (tally is at 4140, R13)
General Scout Tickets = 59
Kanto Tickets = 5
Johto Tickets = 5
Hoenn Tickets = 5
Sinnoh Tickets = 5
Unova Tickets = 1
Kalos Tickets = 2
Alola Tickets = 5
Galar Tickets = 25
Gem Count from 29 November 2024 - 31 December 2024
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893411915638923264/1311535838072672326/V2510_Dec24_GC.jpg?ex=6749366e&is=6747e4ee&hm=a42eb6878a8e6769762928c0d7cd7349d8ed816ea808a0eddf6bdd3d9ea30ca5&
Daily Gem Count Breakdown from 29 November 2024 - 31 December 2024
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893411915638923264/1311535922747019264/V2510_Dec24_DGCB.jpg?ex=67493683&is=6747e503&hm=6007365f8ab831dc0bad342c46d7a75847195b49196121b06604ec7798ea46ab&
Daily Gem Count & Gems Left Till 31 December 2024
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893411915638923264/1311535991114174536/V2510_Dec24_DGC.png?ex=67493693&is=6747e513&hm=bccf0c15570f502c388b39a2e87a5a9f83a7bf3ff48abe41c497431c5cf28786&
@crisp grotto

Kinda weird, i feel like there's more event on November compared to December but the latter have more gems
. I should save stamina this reset as new event start in 2 resets
Oh 3k gems presents
If you think I’m spending Christmas Day grinding the nc Kanto event
I can just log in and get the 3k right? Nothing else is time sensitive?
that means we will have 29k for the month of december?
No presents is alr included in the count
Its been datamined
stamina log in bonus
I need to prepare to lose 600 gems, 300 from UB and 300 from arc leon final fight
. Well there's still 26150 gems
Isnt leon's final fight rock weak
Really? Its not geared towards arc leon? I might have a chance then 
i have 12k gems right now + the 26k . i only need 7k gems to complete 45k for sure puty on AC Leon
Are u aware that arc leon's banner runtime is only for 2.5 wks? He leaves 17 Dec
yes bro thats why im thinking to buy some gems 😭
for sure pity i dont want to gamble for arc suit
im done doing single multi just for luck
omg my bad
I’m skipping. Need to continue saving for February.
me 100% skip
Well a huge chunk of gems are given on 25th so i am inclined to think there is another MF/AF waiting in jan
i dont want to gamble
Christmas Day distracts me so hopefully I don’t forget to get my gems that day.
I just won’t gamble because I like my gem count
Present gems and 20 yellow coins from rayquazza. December is pretty solid 
Although i wont touch the yellow candies now that arc pair is a thing, might need it in case arc fave pairs appear
I wonder how hard will it be to get the 20 yellow coins
Luckily i have ||Irida, NC Red and Sina||
If its damage is too high, probably need a weather setter. It can remove weather if it sync, but at least you can remove clear power up and clear sync up it have
Surprised it doesn’t disable weather completely
It got 1056 atk and 1056 spatk, not so sure how high the damage will be
||Nc red protect time
||
Year to date
2021 - 269,360
2022 - 379,290
2023 - 336,420
2024 - 314,520
Actually surprised its not that much of a difference from last yr (as compared to 2022 to 2023), granted the gem cuts started in the 2nd half of 2024
why was 2021 so low
Dark ages
Early game year syndrome
huh it dropped so much
I mean 1% is heaven compared to the variety pulls
And seasonals
30k + a month in 2022 😋
Yeah ive been saying this
1k monthly isn't a humongous loss
People been insanely overreacting
On 2024 gem counts
We're still getting 9+ pities per year which is a lot for 1% as worst odds and 4.5% as best odds
Personally I'll start worrying whenever we go under 300k yearly
Well...point is that its on a downward trend while the pities are on an upward trend 🤷♂️
Baring the assumption that arc fairs would be more common now, which would bring the 2024 total to 7 pities
But thats a 2025 problem since we only have 4 arc fairs this year
I also can't sympathise with pulling all new 1%s as it's a meta puller world which this game absolutely doesn't ask you to indulge in
The overall unit pressure has gone down if anything
As now seasonals are really good, pokefairs keep getting stronger and MFs keep getting reran
So I really can't see a reason to chase the meta arcs or MFs especially
There are players who only pull the MF/AFs tho
Thats their version of chasers/favs i guess
And there are players who pull most seasonals, which there are 10 yearly of
But either way, the downward trend of gems + increase in banners is something that i guess is more obvious this year
At least to me
Plus I kinda also wanna address the quality of freebies since 2023 also really increasing
Well they have to make up for things they cut out dont they
Idk, I personally had a much harder time in 2023
Like, this year I skipped 1 pair I liked, while last year I had to skip 3, and this year I gained 90k gems while last year I lost 60-70k minimum through the year
Ofc this is personal
Im probably the opposite of u. I pitied every single banner this year so im very jaded lol
But I feel like with them pushing out arcs as their "popular character bait" and doing much more niche characters as pf and such there's been much much less pressure into pulling at all
Oof
I pray next year goes better
Been pitying every single banner since 2022 actually
So the gem cuts feel even more painful for me
I dont even pull that much anymore because of that lol
Yikes
You can see why 2023 was definitely annoying to me
While I got pretty lucky with dailies
Every character I would spend multis on
(or rather, the overwhelming majority of them) was 30+k
Mine is just every MF/AF from NC Serena onwards, goes to pity 😂
Hence i cant even consider any other units cos i have to hibernate for 3 mths to go to pity AGAIN
Yeah I really can't put myself in your shoes, as the only arc I felt was worth was Cynthia because her outfit actually changes

Which is like how many units a year probably 10-12?
So all my gems just goes back into pities
But i've come to terms with it so its kinda 🤷♂️
Yeah bc i usually have to go to pity so in my mind im just like i'll just pull the MF/AF instead of the fairs since i can select scout the fairs if they end up in the select banner
I've done 10 pities in 2023 + 9 pities in 2024 lmao
would probably have been 10 in 2024 if i had gems to scout ss nemona
But it will be 10 pities in 2024 tmr so lmao
But when you gotta 66k for two 1/5 on 2% it definitely feels awful
Cant even rmb when was the last time i pulled on a 2% banner ssksksk
Using non paid gems at least
But its fine i thankfully dont care for the seasonals as much as i used to
I don't scout a lot of them but the ones I do scout are usually more worth to me than most MFs
As the outfits are always amazing
Yeah there are some i wish i had the gems to scout ie fall iono
yeah it was a typo on the part of absol’s friend apparently
We’re good, even if you only have about 20k gems, people should be able to get him
Though I’d highly advise against unless he’s a fave
Also, not to get our hopes up but
December Raids typically be huge in the gacha game market.
hopefully its something nice to work for.
I could see candy coins considering that's usually a reward for those
Also considering that the amount for Strike/Support Candy Coins is surprisingly low despite the event count
Dont think it was a typo since the trailer also had 17 dec on it
Its rayquaza plushies
sounds like a last minute decision
But you’re right
The trailer also says till 17/12
Go figure
https://x.com/pokemas_game/status/1862061283287466429 the scout is actually supposed to go until jan 7th???
(1/2)「ダンデピックアップ アルコスフェス」の開催期間につきまして、実装上の誤りがございましたので訂正いたします。
正しい開催期間は以下のとおりです。
2024/11/29(金)15:00 - 2025/1/7(火)14:59
ゲーム内でも同様の開催期間となります。
Yeah
What does it say
“we goofed, the banner doesn’t end until 7 jan”
@wind nymph you can pity him
Are the arcfair paid gem discounts gonna be available again when leon drops?
I wonder if the offer will be good, i always make orb bundle as my bench mark before i grab gem offers
There seems to be another MF gem deal for Christmas though
The one that has three 300 gems for $1 deal
That’s so bad tho
Spend that money on an orb bundle and get 2k on top of that over the month
Monthly bundle deals are so good like what
Well not monthly, they last 20 days
And i mean yeah you have to wait to get the whole deal but
3000 gems and like 7000 gems over 20 days...
3k bundle is the best paid deal aside the yearly 1k for 1 buck
Honestly imo the candy and 3000 + 200 daily is very cool too now that ||arc suits|| are a thing that are insane at higher prom levels but yeah 3k bundle is peak
My problem with that bundle is that it’s $25
You get your moneys worth but like
That’s over $30 a month
Wayyyyy too expensive
You're getting 1/3 of the value per cent of the 3k bundle
Wait really? Well tbh almost every pack is like expensive so i thought it was a good deal especially considering the candy... maybe its just the pricing cuz my money is in pesos
Sorry for asking but like what are the best packs? (Not counting the story mode and CS ones or daily x20)
Welcome ash bundle, it got same value as 20 day orb bundle 
Oh wait after checking my spending, i also bought the first two cheapest arc fair anni gem deals. It got good value back then
Guys I wanna ask I don't have Any Fire DPS and I dont have another good support besides ||Arc Steven|| Should I get ||NC blue|| or ||Arc Leon||
13k saved
If the date correction is true and with that gem balance ||you can pity nc blue|| not sure about ||arc leon|| as the new date will be till 7th jan iirc. And that last few days of his banner gem count are still unknown
Okay thanks
nw
If you want to know the reasons why feel free to ping me
Its not a problem if ||arc banner pity costs the same with regular banner but dena made it 45600|| 
Yeah anni deal was great
Ye I know it because the Pity is ||9k more||
Ye I understand
Is his kit even that good?
- the other 3 units last until the end of January (more time to save gems), of which ||nc leaf|| is there, which costs less gems and has more utility than just pure damage
No utility, just damage, that’s why I don’t recommend
Okay I will save then
I am sorry but what does utility mean?
Like buffs
And debuffs?
Oh alright thanks
So everything not numbers related
I ma js save up
thank you
The one thats sad is ||his playstyle looks the same with base leon, i expect for a blessed reskin to actually have more utility||
I have || Base Leon || on my main
What should I save my gems for as a brand new player? I did a 11x pull on a trainer thing and got a 5* blue so I think I should be okay for a lot of early game content?
I have 1100 gems right now
The free 5* Pidgeot blue? Everyone gets that lol but i suggest saving for the || NC Kanto Trio (NC Red, Blue, Leaf)||
Yes, also get his lodge pair too. Blue exeggutor is very good
This one #gacha-and-flex message
Oh, then I’d recommend not pulling on the banner anymore
It’s a scam
Oh
Unless you’re referring to the victory road one
Then you made the right choice to select blue out of the three
I don’t have victory road unlocked
Then yeah it’s a scam banner
It uses fomo
To scam you
It’s a scam
Scam scam
Rip
Save your gems
what else should I be using them on then
since you’re starting, get your favorites
You kind want to have an ok roster so you can do some content
you’re in a channel where we talk about saving gems so yeah, most likely we’re gonna recommend you to save
there are some op pairs coming out next month
we talk about saving and going for faves*
is a pair just a trainer
Yes
that too
peak units overall coming next month, it would be great if you got them 👍
holdon imma move to the questions channel
Whatever looks the coolest to you, get it since you’re just beginning
Where is that
Worse case scenario you reset
#poma-questions
any unit should help you through the main story easily
do you have a favourite character or pokemon?
Rayquaza but apparently he’s kinda buns
I think the game is the most fun when you use your favourites even if they're not the strongest
Rayquaza is doodoo but you can get from free from legendary adventures (i think thats the name...?)
yeah free zinnia unit
Zinnia rayquaza
so you can at least get your favourite pokemon for free
Make sure to pick up all the legendary adventure units you can, theyre not the best but its better than nothing
Especially xerneas
they're good when you're starting
I’m just farming to unlock victory road rn
tho I’m starting to struggle a little
what are you struggling with?
the level up event
Wait
I don’t even need to do it rn
Just remember to use a support, i struggled during my early days because i use groudon, kyogre and solgaleo together in a team 
A support?
I can still pitying ||Hol. Lillie||, right?
Need an opinion on whether I should try and pull adaman
My current grass team dmg dealer is a 5/5 ex SS Erika with MF Lyra, with like a 1-2/5 with ex would Adaman be overall stronger than that?
Please note that this channel is not about asking who to pull. You can ask for that sort of help in #poma-questions
well he lasts till jan 7th now so the december 16th gem count is irrelevant
oh yea 😅
i forgot
Ok then just ignore it? Lol. But anw thanks for the ping. I removed the note
i was confused at first tho, :P
i cant tell if the thanks for the ping is sarcasm or not, im sorry
Its not sarcasm dw
because most of those events have not happened yet?
i mean like even last month
the count was 60+
and i dont even have like 50 4* pu
and i did like all the events
Did you buy them from the event shop?
Yds
Hurm, this arc leon gem deals are worse than arc cynthia, steven, lance gem deals
Maybe because those are anniversary probably
Well at least that's some money saved and focus on co-op orbs bundle
Did u exchange them for 5* power ups
Im just following the datamine so 🤷♂️
But the 4* power up counts are usually very standard.
- New main events - 1
- Solo events - could be 2 or 3
- Rerun events - usually 3 from exchange shop (subject to change), 10 from 4* event medal
- Battle points - usually 9 per month
U also get 20 from the monthly exchange shop by exchanging 100 3* power ups
no
wait i get power ups from event medals?
how
If you got 4* medal again for rerun event, you get 10
oh i get it automatically?
how do i get the event medal for it?
the mission?
win the BC round 2?
with certain conditions?
yea thats just like not possible for me
do i also get 10 from getting 4* from the 10k points ones?
or is it just max 1 unit dying?
You get the medals by completing the missions that give them, simple as that. For the new event format you have to clear each milestone to receive one
About getting
from the duplicated medals, you have to get the medals in the first run in order to receive the converted powerups (this applies to events under Rerun tab currently)
oh :(
so i cant get them
so that means i get like 30-40 less than what the datamine suggests if i havent done it before
so in this i only get 27 :(
Oh sorry
Wait do you need a specific role to access that channel?
It just says no access for me
no
They dont seem to have the Trainer role o.o
how?
DM @flat schooner
it happens sometimes when you are a lurker for too long, and you try to chat i think.
It's just Discord bot messing up
but yes do contact modmail to get the role back
I accidentally misclicked on ||elaine’s|| banner and spent 300 gems instead of my daily 😭
My finances will never recover
Oh no! 300 non paid gems, how could I possibly recover from that 

You have to delete the whole account now
I think he might mean a 3000
12k going forward, should hit pity by new years and have enough for halfversary haha
Lesson learned from this is not to daily 
the chance of getting a pair from dailies is quite low, isn't it? I don't see the appeal
idk if i can ask this here but are the seasonal selects in the anniversaries only?
Seems like it #1142434215208702073 message
Tho this is def more of a #poma-questions question
that was what i was looking for, thanks 
Nah 300 lol
It’s on the ||penny/elaine|| banner. The odds of getting one is 3% and I like them both, figured it’s ok to take the risk
Especially since my supporter want list for the select scout around new years is very big
||If you’re the type of person who already buys most high value selects then I think dailies are fine, but they aren’t for everyone||
26k this month huh..
So i can pity ||ncred|| next month for sure
Prob gonna ditch/postpone ||HBugsy|| to a select
||The holiday units|| this month look so cool
Kinda bummed that I can’t pull them
Or shouldn’t over ||kantrio|| at least
does anyone have the day by day gem count ? can u plz share it
thanks
||NC Red|| is coming on January?
yeah, that means you should spoiler tag the name
Where was this mentioned?
#1012256199128915968
no, its on christmas :p
How many gems until || Irida || leaves?
About this much 16930~
Also please spoiler the name.
Should I skip on ||Irida|| and saving gems for ||NC Kantrio|| I have 8K right now ||spent for 4 multis for AS Leon||
Exclude Ultimate, Extreme Battle such as Challenge Deity, challenge ||kantrio|| how much it would be left
Iirc if you cannot clear challenge deity mission, already lose 500 gems. Because mission to clear it without any pair 0 hp gives 300 gems, overall missions clear is another 200 gems. Oh wait, if you cannot even clear the stage, will lose another 100 gems so 600 gems total
assuming you've already cleared all the other missions before this day.
if you haven't that gems can be higher.
Our only EBE this month is kanto nc right?
Arc leon only got this deity thingy right?
yep
and yes
Nice so i guess i can get all of the EBE gems for December
kinda a bit traumatic because i cannot clear final subway ebe stage, nvm. I just lose a bit
The more I play BW2,the worse my fave list gets
Dont worry not many from this list are related to BW2
Also N is Natural Harmonia Gropius, Tropius is a pokemon
With a banana on its throat and can fly for some reason
Cannot wait for next reset. 2 more faves getting cake 
There’s also the 300 gems locked behind the new UB this month
ooof will only get about 24.5k gems of the 26.7k gems
big rip
should still be able to get two pities by the time ||nc kantrio|| ends
ouch
i will be 6k off
if we get 22k next month
i should not have done the ||yolo multi on leon||
lets hope i dont need to pity
It's a lesson
Never YOLO
Never fall in temptation
Unless you're ready to commit
tbf, in my past experiences with yoloing i got a giacomo :P
tbf that was my only yolo
it convinced my brain into thinking it was a good idea trust
it was my first multi in the game soo, it did
Yeah, and now you risk missing out on an actually important character
Also rerolling is an option
no point thinking about 1 month before it comes
now? nah
I meant when you started
ah ok
started saving a few days ago : 5k gems
how much gems do you have now
~20k
oh I see, I hope you can get one
Im coping for new year kartana 
Those datamined pokemon mean nothing to me considering they didn't give alolan ninetales to Lillie
Although i dont mind saving ||i just spent 2 pities|| now only have around 81k gems
Although there's still 24610 for me this month (already minus UB) so im probably quite fine for January
wtf is this take
istg you have the worst ones (no offense)
Also coping for a good rayquazza rally, anything it gives probably not included in monthly calc because its tied to twitter
I collect the 1% units, why is that so bad?
I mean we don’t get enough gems per month
To scout a new 1% unit every month
So you might want breaks
that’s why it’s spaced out per 3 months
the player base would go crazy
Yeah same, was looking at that the other day and I’m hoping it’s actually gems
Well 1 per month vs 3 per 3 months is arguably better for the average player that cant stop impulse of pulling
Well some people thought everyone have the same gem balance although people have different likes and pull different things
exactly
I mean if everyone always had 100K gems laying around then sure yeah 1% a month would be chill
By saving in past i do have 100k sitting around
Nvm just try to be understandable to build a healthy atmosphere 
Yeah we gotta be considerate of others, everyone always needs to have gems for their faves in case of urgency after all
That’s why I tell some people to have at least a pity sitting
In case of emergencies
and not to use it unless absolutely necessary
I think it’s a good tip worth sharing
Probably increase the amount a bit especially some banner nowadays costs 45600, a normal pity aint so safe anymore 
the ideal is always to have it higher
I got meta over faves which isn't a great mindset for many, that's why I pray for arc houndoom/karen since that is my favorite pokemon and a semi iconic pairing of trainer
Its probably arc akari 
With a lodge akari that month just to bait me to select her 
Although i still will prioritise volo for field select as lodge volo already exist
6.7k gems yipepee
Nice saving more than a multi is always a commendable feat.

Mainly because single is always easy to resist because you will get 1 less pull than a multi with the same amount of gems. But saving while having a multi or more is pure effort and dedication as the only thing stopping you from YOLO is your willpower
2k saved up so far it’s not a lot but i calculated that I should have around 27k at the end of this month, luckily only that interests me is ||NC Blue banner & Chase banner || but || Chase is out of the question since he’s sharing the rates with two other Pokefairs I don’t really want || my current strategy if I ever get the urge to summon is to look at salt channel and see the reality of trying to YOLO. Wish me luck guys 🙏
worst case scenario, we get Move Candy Coins of the 5 types (minus the yellow)
Best case scenario? We get full candies that's not Yellow. o_o
The worst case is just champion spirits 
real
I would like gems too :p
How many and which 3* and 4* candies do we get this month
8.600 gems, did all my sync pair stories
I still have a ton on the backend myself 
26k saved should have around 46k until the end of this month and will be able to get both reamining before they are gone YIPEEEEE
spoiler the names 😮
?? i did not get what u want to say ??
Do you even know the rules here?
chill out 1 week
@narrow lodge just know you cant mention the current banners
thats all
More like you have to spoiler what you pull
Nobody reads the pins/rules so you’re all good, this happens a lot. In the future please spoiler the names to help keep others from being tempted.
Yeah, spoiler-tagging pull talk is required in this channel
So if I wanna say ||I can use gems on the SC rerun without leaving myself unprepared for New Year banners|| here I spoiler-tag it
Thank you everyone for letting me know . How to spoiler tag ??
Using || at the start and end of ur words
II like this II
But with the bars instead of the uppercase I’s
Yes
||/Remove the slashes/||
Ok, that didn’t work 
I forgot what the way to get the actual bars to show up instead of turning into spoiler-tags is
||test||
No Spaces
I believe it is hey
` at the start and end
Bruh
I forgot to turn off ping
Mb
It happens
Should I wait for rika next rerun? Im not really interested in more n dupes or anni may
If you’re unsure I would lean that to a no answer
There’s always possibilities for more beneficial shares
Yeah I’d wait
This month is too packed with goodies
if you find yourself with a lot of spare gems in an empty month and badly want her, consider it then
but now it’s pretty meh
ill just do one more yolo multi ngl and call it.
I wouldn’t do that
Don’t
you never get your stuff
if you yolo
why even bother
you did 3 yolos?
how many
around 90k
yeah save up
That's 11-12 days worth of gems
it’s barely 2 arc pities
im not really interested in arc pairs
Based
well it’s not 3 pities either
Just pretend you need to save for a Lance summer alt

more like ny alt v2
Thinking about it: can I have enough for ||two of the nc trio|| before they leave and still be able to safely pull for ||elaine||?
I can’t have enough gems for all of them (don’t want to use paid on ||non-selects or dailies||) unless January is an insane month somehow
So it’s more a question of is it worth the risk
There’s about 22K left this month and I’d personally expect about 23-25K more before ||NC Kantrio|| leaves
The average luck will require you to spend around 55k on ||two 1%|| + 15/18k on ||the 1.5%||, which is in total pretty much what you'll get before end of banners
But if you get remotely unlucky you'll miss out on one of them and basically waste the equivalent spent without pity for nothing
So I'd just decide on a skip and stick to it
Why would you waste a yolo and not get it anyway
Little late but still like my progress as usual
Gotcha, that puts it in perspective. I’ll stick with ||dailies|| for now hoping for her, but I’ll skip if I don’t
||maybe I can get her on the paid select?||
I just spent ||2 pities for 2 1%, my luck is kinda shitty ngl
||
Well at least, i can aim to get all lodge pairs now till they ||add Lodge Leon and Lodge Geeta, or worse, Lodge Ash||
||Lodge Ash has a 0% chance of happening, the fact they wont even rerun Jessie/James after the movie debut proves it||
I got like 23k gems rn, so do I have hope to get 2 full pities before ||nc kantrio|| leaves?
21.5k*
I also would estimate about 23-25K before January 25th
Unless DeNa is being uncharacteristically generous on January AND also give most of it before 25
But yeah you’ll be shy a few thousand gems
Hmm :(
Maybe I can do story to get the rest
Really shouldnt have done that yolo on Leon
Usually we get quite a lot of gems on January
So it’s not impossible
How much did we get last Jan before 25th
Btw espeon what drained ur gems
Wish Ray didn’t become Ultimate or Extreme battle
It's co-op
It is? Huh
yep
Yeah it's coop
So it won't be hard
(it's more likely a teaser for the new coop revamp)
I wonder how effective the revamp will be
We have a revamp incoming?
I wonder if we can just ||nc red|| our way to rayray
||He does have Piercing blows on B Ice Beam, but do note the Shiny Rayquaza has Antifreeze (and Wide Awake/Unflappable)||
No fun Rayray lol
pretty sure that rayquaza will be the easiest thing ever
so I wouldnt worry too much about it
hey if it isnt easy at least https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/651493901135380480 will be revived lmao
Iirc it got 32k hp
Oh that’s free
And if its damage is too much maybe can opt to add weather, to remove its clear weather passive
Where did we get this info, and can someone please tell me in detail
Just look on absol’s pastebin, you can see all battles there
Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.
Use a find command (like control f) to find the shiny rayquaza event
Oh it's on the pastebin already I didn't know
Even the battle challenge is coop what
Lots of events ending today
Got my last minute eevee eggs
Although i already got all of em but not like the rest of the month got new egg event anyway 
11k !!
I caved and ||went for Elaine. Got her (no penny) but it took 24k||. I’m down to 14k rn. Was kinda mad about my luck so I ||whaled on the 5k triple banner and got a single 2/5 dupe 😭||.
Hoping my luck turns around for a little bit over Christmas. I can still get ||Leaf|| for sure but will need decent luck for ||Blue||
TLDR yolos aren’t worth and mex is not a good influence /j
that's actually kinda unlucky 😭
I don’t regret ||elaine|| cuz she’s a fav but yeah, ouch 😭
yeah you usually dont take advice from #poma-lounge , especially not from mex
lmao tough luck
#poma-lounge is the best place if you want to get the worst advices 
I removed it from my list lol
||Getting a dupe on the 5k fake selects is already a dub||
||So you definitely didn't get shafted||
PoMa lounge is the place to chill while waiting for datamine 
poma lounge is the place where no one wants to see you suffer more than your fellow poma lounge commuters
So u joined the dark side huh
One of the soon to end banners interests me but I have no pity so nah skipping
I hope I got them this time, haven’t sorted through yet
You are chasing all shinies or just normal?
Well I’ll take shinies but only got 1 this event
Better than my luck for paldea starter eggmons, got 9 shiny outcomes because all 3 pokemons + 3 roles got shiny but i got 0 till the event ended 
I didn't even get normal
Tbf I was trying for three passives but sitll
Still
got lucky this round, got all the shinies for the ones that I do not have, so I have the full set of shiny eevee eggmons
12k !
24k o/
17k here
162k, should have enough for nc kantrio, been resisting the urge all year long for this 
your patience shall be rewarded in 17 days, poma player. 
Might wanna just wait 5 days before pulling, who knows, maybe we’ll get Arc Suit Red next patch 
We’ve never had a northern hemisphere winter holiday season with less than 2 Master Fairs or higher
18k gems rn


