#Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)
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Well if heatran is sinnoh nc it will be early December, christmas is mid December
Same month is the correlation
yeah
Thats why im skipping everything this month. Pretty nice as since anni to this month, i only need to pull 1 pair
Raikou, morgan, annilillie2 were free
good stuff
Hopefully December is kind to me, need to be wary if kartana pops up in january and more faves on half anni
Also hoping for arc suit N zekrom and lear hoopa to finally add arc suit in my faves roster
He lost to a JP years ago
Really?
That JP had around 1.160k when chest had 1.070k
Not really, it's probably buried in #main-plaza
Non paids
That is a dedicated saving.
|| I really want to pull on SS Emmet but I also want to get Elaine, I currently have 6K gems so I know i shouldn’t but it’s so tempting 😞 ||
Never scout until you have 36k
I mean a lot of the old vets on the server lurk on the game
I have chest on friends and he still logs in
He might not talk here as much
Is he still saving gems?
I mean why wouldn't he
Well he was always making a point out of it
Pulling is part of the game
And just like anything else, it's a part of the game that can be ignored
Yep i guess i could say its overall a good thing, mainly due to our f2p pairs and general pool units arent bad and they are workable to help in clearing contents. No pvp is a plus too, help reduce pulling temptations
shouldn't this also take into account gems from DC
since theoretical new player haven't claimed them yet
But it will be a false hope for old players, might be better to not count it on newer gem calcs
2 DC every week, so 800 gems of false hope to old players
I planned to pull for ||Adaman|| on the 21st but i'm not sure if it's the best idea.
Ideally, I wanted to pull for ||Adaman > Dexio and the split Penny/Eliene.|| I already have a good Psychic team so ||Dexio|| isn't super important, I just like the character and ||Espeon|| (plus they're a pretty good unit) and I already have ||penny|| 3/5, so getting specifically ||Eleine|| would be harder.
Another thing to worry about is ||NC Leaf|| rerunning in December/January, which would complete my ||NC Kantrio team with NC Blue and NC Red.||
If he is released that close, might as well wait for datamine on 27th if you're so unsure about stuff on December
but it might be in janurary.
Might be. So you still need to know what happens in December first. His banner wont expire in 7 days iirc so can totally wait for datamine
true.
Its different if you want early November units, as they expired before datamine. But no rush for those released on 21+. We even got a confirmed datamine date due to vietnam players
How many gens will we prolly get before the 25th? Does anyone got any idea?
You could check the pinned here for the details, assuming you get it all, it should be 12k-ish gems before 25th, counting from today.
Tho about 2k is on the 25th itself, so 10k till 24th.
13K basicaly until the 25th
That would give me around 20K for ||Irida||
Not looking too bright for me
Depending on how many gems on december i might also not be able to get ||NC Leaf||
Man the pack of gems is realy bothersome
Goodluck with it
On offtopic, I think it will be nice if the chara name could be censored
Why do you keep defending Dena for lowering free gems year to year, when they keep increasing the % of units that are limited vs free at the same time?
Whats the date for datamine?
Because it's not true.
2022 had 74 pairs (jan-nov)
2023 had 88 pairs (jan-nov)
2024 had 93 pairs (jan-nov)
2024 gave 28 new gen pools/freebies thanks to DC debut
2023 gave 20
2022 gave 30 thanks to lodge debut
The reason I disapprove of that kind of behaviour is that while ofc the number of limiteds has obviously increased, most of those limiteds at this point are niche or newer characters with less traction behind them as older, consolidated characters. And I'm happy they're limited because I don't recommend anyone's fave to get Malva'd, Iris'd or Sonia'd (powercrept to hell and back, forgotten, gen pooled with a shitty kit)
I'm tired of seeing people claiming the game "used to be much more generous" because we got a year where DeNa completely fucked up their free gem economy planning related to paid bundles, making basically the economy print gems out of thin air.
If 4 more multi per year were enough to decide the economy the game would've died in 2019. The reality is that the game is still extremely lenient with its free currency considering the limited pair value, the freebie pair value and the level of difficulty required to obtain more currency.
And while I ofc get that it's not cool to lose an average of 1/22 of the income, I still recognize you can't expect the gacha economy to normalize around the 2022 standard and that as it stands, it's still easily manageable to save unless you get unlucky for 6+ months in a row.
All this blabbering about "DeNa choking players", "gem income being non existent and unacceptable' only passes and ungratefulness for how good we had it on the regular, and how good we still get it compared to other f2p gachas to my eyes. Now I don't want to say my view is easily shareable and again, I understand the frustration of getting slightly less gems monthly, but if the quality of the game content increases as compensation I'll fully take it. DC,rally,HSE,UBs and the soon coop rework keep me interestedmore than 800 gems monthly
So tired of people comparing this game compared to other gacha. The lesser of 2 evils isn't good lmao
And weird you claim the year with good amount of free gems was a mistake lmao
Seems more to me that giving out more gems saved the game and people were grateful and started spending more because of it
"so tired of people contextualising decisions"

I never said them changing from 2022 economy to 2023 economy was a good decision, but I can see why they did it considering how the gacha economy changed once the pandemic "ended"
The 3 and 7k bundles were clearly mismanaged early and gave too much of an advantage for too low of an investment. The reason 2022 touched high in sales wasn't because people were spending more, but because a lot of new players joined for third Anni (mostly ash), but the game content being low quality killed retention, plunging the sales towards the end of the year
Paldea also clearly didn't carry enough lifeblood into the game as they hoped aside Iono carrying last January better than a lot of MFs
Again, all I'm seeing is someone crying about the virtual money but not recognising the real quality we got in event, pair spotlighting and content managing since 4th Anni onwards
Iono only carried the game last January because it got actual traction coming in from the retweets of the rally
thats the one thing I don’t get why they stopped
Yeah, I said that
Iono carried because she's one of the most popular characters AND the PR was actually well done
Rika is more popular but her pr was worse
Imagine if we got gems rally
Not only would that compensate for the 19k but the game would surely grow
27th
You mean 23k
wait what was the 19k month
Apri-may was 23k
Lowest was 21.9
Might've been the case
I mean there's been multiple cases where the preliminary count ended up being 2-3k higher
During last year
would be nice to get a Pokémon presents this month…
Didn’t we have a present on the 26th or something
Pokémon presents cope it is
I need ||Irida|| but if they happen to release ||arc iris|| or ||arc alder|| for december or ||any of the bike lizards|| i may be cooked
Those ones especially will be around for awhile after a datamine
Pretty sure the 19k month had a delayed 3k gift we didn't get until the next month. So if you count it as month earned then we should deduct it from month we received it
Back to 16k crystals 👍
got everything i wanted this month, time to save again 🦟
back at above a pity!

hello guys do we have table for the remaining gems we can get per day until end of november?
Yes, please check the pins here
It's best not to mention this kind of talk because in this channel saving gems for favorites is encouraged. Please be mindful next times.
okay Sir im sorry for this. this is my first time here i will delete what i said
good thing we can still get 10k gems til end of Nov
6360 gems just on the 21st
They really could’ve spread it out more
Stamina will hurt
Okay i knew i wasn’t going crazy
I was wondering where the bulk of the gems were for this month
But yea i am sitting at 28k
Slowly inching my way to 50k for an arcpair pity

yes correct
Chasing my faves pays off lately, only need to pull 1 unit within three months. I am preparing if more pops up in December 
Hit 9 pities, think at this point if I see any units I want I will pull
(altho this month got nth I want)
Nice 
My max was 5 pities, i never reached level 9. Although i think Tai probably reached it, kalos fans got it rough before this month so Tai saved a lot
Imagine unova fans trying to save
It's not too bad ngl
Not all regional fans are fans that wanna scout EVERY pair
Yep, like me focusing on legendary, mythical, UB, paradox is harder i think. But so far this year only has 11 faves and 3 of them are free.
only 11, thats like an average of 1 per month 
Not sure how many unova this year, but you guys got ||vhilbert and vhilda|| this month
they also got 2 NCs earlier this year as well
Only 8 need gems, luckily not all had to pity
Well i also pulled that because they are legendary 
I don’t have a region target haha, just singular characters
Forgetting the ss submas are we?
Welp, I missed 1.5k gems from HSE, but eh
Whats HSE btw?
high score event; you use pairs that have a bonus (two types, usually) and use them to beat stages with varying levels of strength that you can decide
Ooooh okay ty 🙏
Then yeah i could 100% it (by a bit, getting the score for last move coin was hard)
Honestly was afraid i might have missed an income of gems
i mean if you didn't do high score then, yea you did
it was 300 per stage cleared
but you can always make up for it 
Ingo event lasted for ages
What does these mean
Let's
Go
In
Search
Of
Wonder
Damage Challenge
Travelers From A Distant Past
Smh obviously it’s LG (the tech company) is ow
LG is overwatch
tsk tsk
https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1012311116778586182 would be the correct answer
Gonna have double pity by end of December aww yeah
😭when will the nc kantrio rerun i need to save but i want adaman
what is avg dec gemcount
I think about 25-27K
a good portion comes from the 3K gift that's usually given on Christmas Eve or Day
do you think i should pull for adaman? currently on 24k gems and i want to get at least 2 of the nc kantrio, and maybe pull new arcs/mf if any left over
can get to 30k by start of dec
Probably late dec-early jan
Definitely not
He needs investment unlike those
And your gem count is too low to afford 2 MFs + something else
Keep in mind that we are in no way are sure that NC Kantrio would be back next update, it's only speculation based on previous anni pair reruns.
And Adaman would be staying until December 25th so there's time to wait for December update in 4 days
i thought MF needed comparatively lower investments
Not all MFs are made equal
Wednesday
My luck has been so good on the pull simulator lately and idk if that’s a prophecy or a warning
Dw
It’s a different event entirely
So it doesn’t weigh on the probabilities of poma
Well poma doesn’t have conditional probability but still it should be fine
I know statistically it doesn’t matter but superstitiously it does yknow?
And honestly which is more important
the one that makes u sleep better at night
Welp, I'm have full pity for a single non-AS unit now
currently at 16k gems 😮
Currently at 3k gems js started playing after quitting I have unfinished story on hard mode
I really want to get ||adaman|| but there is a high chance for ||nc kantrio|| next month :(
Just wait until datamine, it's only in 4 days and he'll be staying well over until next month
I think I should change how I do dailies
Rn I’m spending ~400 paid a day from the champion bundle on master fair dailies with nothing to show for it
Prob gonna swap to duo/trio banners only to save gems
||unrelated but every time I have a dead spark on Adaman I die a little inside||
Dailying on MFs is a much worse way to invest paids than most people think
1% is very bad when you get like 5-10 rolls of it
I only do that when there's a good triple pf
Mix is much more valuable than mfs too
Yea thinking about it you need to spend 10k paid to hit odds on an MF
What are the odds for mix? Isn’t that also like 2% + however much for a random PF?
It's 5.5% total
2+3.5%
If you don't like th featured it's "only" 3.5%
Mix units do be really good as of now and I'm expecting next batch to be even better tbfh
Oh that’s way better than I thought
Well yeah but overall
But overall shooting a daily in mix to placate FOMO still a good way to invest
4%+ for a “good” unit is worth it
Just gotta figure out how much to spend on it…
I’m fine spending the ~$5 a month on the orb package but most of the other deals suck
I do around 5-10 dailies on it per month because I spend 4€ every 40-50 days in PoMa
Oh that’s fair
I'm at 100/300
After 1+ year of mix existing
I got some nice spooks
It's nice to daily there when you haven't scouted in a while
And really want to throw a single away
But I really can't recommend doing it every time you feel an itch
Eh once a day should be enough for me
Like one single a day*
Yeah that’s what I’m saving the rest of my gems for
Just train your self restraint to optimize resources
Assuming we get some around NY
That’s gonna be the tough part
Done a few too many yolo dailies on ||eri||
Speaking of, gem check
||I got so depressed that I spent my gems on Adaman getting a copy of him, but ended up going to pity||
rip
last big gem day of the month

So i will enter next datamine with 150k gems
Hope not many faves
If next month got another strike fave pair, i probably use candy on it and hope to 3/5 fall iris via seasonal select instead
Fave is a legend for you yeah?
Brace yourself, it’s mf month
Legendary, mythical, UB, paradox 
Yep i got 150k, hope its enough 
me at 8.7k gems rn 🧍♀️
||this wouldn’t have happened if ss emmet was nice to me!!!!!!!||
I always expect every banner i want will not be nice
so saving for pities will be much easier
240k wth
how many points do you get per multi?
if i had to get to 364/400 for 1/5 irida, is finishing it out to pity for 2/5 worth?
+pity
To Reach Max Scout Points (Pity)
400 Points
- 12 Multis will cost 36,000
and net you 396 points.
- 2x singles
OR1x single + 1 daily discountOR4 daily discounts will net you the rest. - Standard Pity: 36,600

- 2x singles
500 Points
- 15 Multis will cost 45,000
and net you 495 points.
- 2x singles
OR1x single + 2 daily discountsOR5 daily discounts will net you the rest. - Arc Fair Scout Pity: 45,600

- 2x singles
Scout Points: 3 per Single , 33 per Multi , 1 per Paid Discount.
33 per multi ^
since ||irida|| lasts a while you might want to wait until at least this datamine to make your decision
but it is only one multi and one single left (3300 gems) which may be worth one move level/tech candy to you if you were planning to level this unit anyway
oh and maybe spoiler the unit name since it's a currently running unit
Gem count as of completing the Submas EBE stuff and the Masters Day events (but not the weekly Rally); after I do the Rally I’ll need around a 25,590 gem count for December if I have to pity both MFs (I’m predicting slightly less since I have a few sync pair stories banked + I remember the December MF banners running until early January)
to the people ? reacting:
joltik says this since this channel is specifically meant to help people deter from pulling, so we try to avoid mentioning the currently running units as to not tempt people
dont sync pair stories give u like 10 gems a pop?
It does
It could be the Legendary Area ones they have like 100 gems per one or more and evolution side stories
so it could be maxium 1k
If they are all evolution or Legendary area Sync pairs
u mean legendary adventures?
tmr datamine?
tomorrow night / 27th morning
Yeah 40 hours
Do u guys wish for a nc kantrio rerun?
yes
This December?
Hopefully it’s January gives me time to save gems
there’s a possibility but it’s like really low and last NC’s reran on January I believe according to others
fr bc i need money more than ever
January would be 25 Jan?
I have some stuff saved but a new arc suit means no ||Elaine|| and probably no ||nc leaf||
But the thing is if no nc kantrio next month
It won't be confirmed for next month either
Then I will be very confused about should I spin for ||adaman|| or not
It’s a safe bet to skip even if you don’t see the kantrio next month
||there’s a very realistic chance they will rerun every eevee day||
Based on zero evidence sure, but still
I hope datamine has no favs so i can pull for ||Elaine|| cuz i really need more support 
I won't be waiting till next year smh
beware of december gang
True!!!
I doubt I will still be playing next year
that’s when they introduce new powerful pairs
Think of it this way, you won’t need ||Adaman|| if you have || Kanto trio ||
Any mobile game in general
True but fav > powerful (unless fav not powerful
)
||elaine looks so cool she legit might be a superawakening target for me||
But if no nc kantrio next month
It's not confirmed that Jan will have kantrio
Speculation =/= confirmation
But ||adaman|| is goated
Either way saving can’t really bite you
If you want ||adaman|| over ||kantrio|| then pull for him lol
After datamine* in case something crazy shows up
I have ||Kantrio at 3/5|| but || 0/5 nc leaf|| so idk 
The dilemna is in the case kantrio is not next month
It could be cuz no rerun
Or cuz it reruns in jan
Yeah but like
Would you rather pull ||kantrio|| or ||adaman||
Say both were running rn
Or would I rather pull ||adaman|| or ||nothing||
Kantrio duh
But
The dilemma is in the case kantrio doesn't rerun in December
Then wait for datamine, its only like 1 day or so 
^
Yea but then there is another problem
If they don’t rerun see if you can skip the month
Save for another pity for January
Most of the good pairs should last until datamine I think
Then the wonder between 2 pities vs 1 pity, it's always a debate and no right answer
||Adaman|| won't until next datamine :p
True
Either way for sure wait until this datamine
You can decide based on what shows up
Yepi don't even have enough for pity yet anyways
Around 20k so far
But haven't gotten all the gems from eevee events
Just wait 1 day and we'll see 
Better
Iirc he has guaranteed freeze too
How
Buddy move
Other way around… ||Giacomo|| is a dark type version of ||NC Red||
Oh right
Yes ik, but I got Giacomo first so
Damn nc red farms so many sp atk up
Theyre not exactly the same considering ||nc red|| is spam buddy move
The rebuff only working once only applies to that specific enemy right?
I think generally speaking for NC Red you have to use Blizzard first
But best to use blizzsrd first
Which is AoE
What about nc leaf?
And neither does he have aoe sync
So will the rebuff activate if I target all of them separately
What about after sync
NC Leaf I think activates with her status move
And her sync always provides AoE Rebuff
(If I recall correctly, because I don’t have her moment)
Sync + regular ex role gives all enemies an extra rebuff stack (making it up to 2 in a single battle, at least red can only apply 2 stacks)
No idea, shes the only one i dont have 
No, I have the two o want of those
NC kanto apply with move n sync
Red ideally has blizzard + striker sync, so both AoE
Blue has discharge + striker exrole sync, so both spread if exr, st sync if not
Leaf has leer + st sync, so AoE & ST
It's once ever so you can't reapply it in any way
Yeah so better to use AOE first
tbf with those three you're most likely to use AoE first anyways

There's maybe a scenario for NC Red you don't use his AoE move first, but that scenario required a 2nd Rebuff pair in the team
Yeah like any arc unit or using discharge with nc blue first
why 40 hours?
#datamines message
Hope there's some teaser today like they tease stakataka 1 day earlier before datamine if elioalt 
PSA: don’t forget to do the Daily Co Op Eevee battle!
Datamine?
it’s an unspoken rule to overreact when datamine is mentioned
So not this reset but one after? Not bad
i forgot about it since the first day. what's the reward and how long does it go for?
Event Vouchers at no stamina cost (and some other 1st time completion stuff)
Eve event iirc
Well 1 hr before the reset
I'm pretty sure they are separate
Correct me if I'm wrong tho
Yes
The co-op is for eeveelutions variety event
Not much good stuffs in there but i do grab the lucky scrolls and cookies
Although lucky scrolls can be obtained from the new training area, but i rather use my stamina elsewhere than that
Oh i forgot about those because i already claimed it day 1
So i only remember leftovers
Bundle EX: 18/20
Bundle EX+: 6/20
It's better to save paid gems than doing singles as of now right? I may not get 10k but at least i could do the 4.5k paid for 3/5 pokefairs
hopefully good gem count next month
Same here
Praying for 33k gems.
Praying for at least 30k
Yknow nobody ever says they hope for a low gem count
Dena employees and share holders are
I'm expecting 27-28k
Dena reading this discord and making it 20k
If it’s 27k or 30k that be a miracle.
It’s average for December
I do know a good portion from December comes from the 3K gift on Christmas Eve or Day
But even without that gift, it’s still on average higher than many months 
true
what if i just die before it happens
The calamity
second day of saving
Skip month thankfully 
well ||adaman|| is gettign skipped
no need to wonder now
I think I'm finally fucking free || #main-plaza message||
MY TWO YEARS OF SAVING AND WAITING HAS PAID OFF
FINALLY
Congrats 
pretty mid so far
The only thing good for me next month, are N exr, ssgrimsley PB and dc cheren i guess
Other than those are just skip
oh yeah, rip to the vietnamese...
Tbh idk if i should go for a fave or skip to save for new years
Wait me and Gakon are Vietnamese
What did we do
yeah i knew that, you're around my timezone lol
Looking like I’m saving next month.
you just reminded me he might be affected

Oh dear, that doesn't sound good
Oh no really?
yeah its only if you live there or are traveling/staying in vietnam for work/vacay where i suppose you would be affected
Should I
A)||bag holiday bugsy cuz I like him+that outfit is cute af||
B)||go for ncred as unlike other meta pairs,he seems to be completely immune to powercreep and looks like a strong addition to my Ice roster||
C)save for new years and hope for faves then
Well I shall check back here in the morning.
gotta see the gem count first
True.
i’m doing what i always do. save up until the last day of a banner and ||go ham||
i only did that once
Gem count would only affect if I can't pity
Need to continue saving. Now there's even xurkitree and kartana models in datamine files 
2%/skip better if I can't pity,1% better if i can
Wait,||is ncred gonna go on till late January like other mfs,or just dec?||
alright, its confirmed
||end date jan 25||
not sure why he wouldnt
Hmm
Then i can for sure bag him
But dunno if i should go for this|| pretty big major powercreep immune meta unit|| or a medium fave like ||bugsy||
frustratingly ||leon only goes to dec 17??||
which means i have to fully sit it out for saving
was lightly hoping i could throw some at it if blue was nice
since i have both dc tierno and sygna morty as sun setters now, im thinking ||nc leaf is lower than nc red as a 'if blue doesnt fully require pity||
Is ||ncleaf|| even meta anymore?feel like they also got powercreeped kinda hard in just a year
but i might also just need to be conservative with my gems looking ahead to poison + rock as my next two problem types to lock in units for
i mean, ||her stat control still seems pretty damn good; she's somewhat getting her toes stepped on by arc leon wrt fire rebuff tech unit but we also got a TON of fire units, specifically fields/those focusing on sun setting, so she's just had more alternatives arise compared to the other two||
i dont think shes 'not meta' tho
This new banner running for 3 wks is insane lol
Don't like Leon so no pulling, fire saturated as is
And when u get another arc in jan...lmao
This 100%
It would be a first wouldn't it
We still have dark and bug in the files so i think its lining up to be one per mth until half anni
...... if that happens i'll be mad.
Two 1% in two different consecutive months
Would definitely be a choice ever
I'd happily skip Leon for a water arc.
But if they're gonna keep introducing arcs every 3 months like this
I can't keep up as f2p..
Also think that since jan datamines are early, they just cut leon's run time to force bait pulls before the jan update
Yeah for a gacha game, if u are f2p u will never keep up
Yeah...
I REALLY don't like leon personally...
and I REALLY don't like ANOTHER freaking charizard.
So does most people it seems in the lounge
They slapped a white coat of paint and expected us to enjoy watching it dry
Brybry — Today at 1:52 PM
We'll get 20 Move Candy Coins from the Shiny Rayquaza Event's shop
Anw good news
- 3k gems on xmas (i think)
is that 20 universal candy coins or for each all
His cape looks like a regice on fire, i cannot unsee it
I wish I could wait for datamine
||if i lock in on nc red i can wait,but if i lock in on bugsy I can't||
Yeah they just slapped a big bp on the b move, and didnt bother with any other effects on it
Say you want a fire nuker, is ||NC Leaf|| is just better to grab?
I wish he had more than inferno + a buddy nuke but they really went out of their way to remove the fun part of his base version

Leon has aoe tech sync tho
Yeah I am aware but idk the rest of the kit is just
Altho he only has 1 sync multiplier so idk. I guess u have to wait for dmg calcs
i was wondering if his innate was that +seun on sync thing
The kit is so lazy
||I actually like struggling to win rather than just having a nuke||
i mean
as someone who was here for og sygna red debut
it kinda just reads like that did
From brybry site mentioned his sync has SEUN but that's usually applied after right?
Yeah its applied after sync
The kit reads like sync then bmove nuke
Did we get ebe for arc fair champ trio does anyone rmb
It really feels like lance + ash but with less varied antigimmick and all eggs in burn + DF basket
big 'wow holy shit this is busted' but also somewhat one-note
like his passive slate is
just kinda stupid lmao
||These pairs are merely busted but not good||
His passives are so boring
who needs this lmao
The AoE sync & max don't really do much when you have 470 spa but no multipliers
Why do we need one passive for piercing gaze
The B Move is hella cracked but idk if that alone would sway me, and I genuinely need a fire tech nuker
Not just piercing gaze, it's also vigilance!

Its year 6 and we are still getting one liner passives ugh
like ok. you have sure hit on inferno's 100% burn to 50% acc, thats nice
There were more deserving arcs than leon...
and granted, this is also on top of guaranteed* fire rebuff
I genuinely read the kit and was like
"Oh shit it's a support pog"
"Wait where are the defence buffs"
"Wait wdym tech exr"

The match is gonna be over before leon even unalives tho...
Tech EXR
No innate
Be fr
To be fair I'll take him over red every day
and i can see the idea of tech + passive to give strike aoe
it certainly is more interesting than just making him another fire striker
do we know gem counts or am i too early lol
Exactly...they just slapped aoe sync and max move + burn and called it a tech lol
i feel like gem counts will be high from rayquaza event
Pls come back tmr lol
lmao ok
me af
"y'all" its just me
its just one person who wasnt sure if we had it yet
asking a simple question
The thing is his kit is essentially feels like a strike lol
Its a strike with a tech sync is what they wanted to do
I mean I'd think a person who's been here more than 2-3 months would know it takes 12-24 hours for it to be done
We could have had more with the passives tbh
Strike with tech EXR more like
Or just a better base kit
protect is so funny
He's only copying the other Charizard user
Protect could've been fun if it had something
Lmao
But 🚫
applying circle along with df wouldve been the obvious move
Portect brain gain 9 is all it does
yeah, i was really hoping we would get arc strike supp tech sprint field repeat as the cycle but this just kinda seems like they wanted him to have Biggest Possible Nuke Ever
Luckily i got a new side goal, so i got something to do during skip month
DFs are really meh so focusing an arc on it SHOULD mean you'd wanna out HUGE passives to compensate
Exactly bruh i thought that would happen but dena never fails to disappoint
But lol
meh month skip
oh so half the roster of pokemon characters yeah
Is NC Leaf better than Arc Lance though
cant wait for the ebe where you need protect or you get hit by aoe fissure
Coming soon
Isn't there the Noland UB
Yea
you can make a case either way
I was also expecting sync burst 1
I define it as "not losing too much damage while heavily compensating with regard to utility"
Where the utility also benefits its team
And NC Leaf does that perfectly with B Leer and sun
Same 🤝
He could never be SS Gladion
Fa clawf
Sync burst 1 with that bp in the b move is not happening lmao
sure, but like. at this point we have so many modes with wildly different metas/needs
Eh, considering the kit I could've definitely seen it happening
just saying 'x is better than y' is kinda nothing unless its like, arc cyn is better than og 3* bugsy or w/e
Because rn huge move nukes like his aren't all that unique
The kit is this way because of the 700Bp tbh. If it was 400 i think we would have gotten more things
and before i forget
I'm only really considering 3v3 gamemodes and LG
Kit wise, nc leaf > arc leon for me
It is not that
Nc leaf just provides more coverage for situations
Idk man, I really feel like even with all that it's really a horrid 1-3/5 grid with bad 4-5/5 tiles
It is 2 sync move up next per hit
The entire kit just screams lazy but we know yall gonna pull cos arc fair
I'm gonna do 4-5 dailies and dip
I multied Cynthia because her arc suit actually was pretty unique
nc leaf definitely seems stronger in more situations to me than arc leon, but then again we literally just had someone calling her washed and powercrept so like
If he had a more tech appropriate kit I might've fold lol
Leon is a striker tbh i wont even consider him a tech lol
How is Leaf washed
It's like saying Lifeline is washed
They just put him there for a pepega nuke, which if it turns out tragic i would have a good laugh
When's ||NC Leaf rerunning|| btw?
Now
25 dec
Well, not now; this year
Noice
25/12 - 25/1
Yes
I guess my fire roster stays dead
you can scroll up and read for yourself, i dont think she is but
Poma day masterfair reruns are always for 1 mth
I can wait for update then
4/5 og Leon stays winning
I guess I keep coping on strike exr Anni N
we all already know that the arc suits, like superawakening, are not ultimately for those of us who are thin on gems

Even people with my gem count shouldn't scout arcs indiscriminately
I hope they keep superawakening to pokefairs only lmao
... yes, obviously
Because every shaft is 45k + candies
but like
my point is more
theyre designing arc suits to be flashy
arc leon is exactly that
I hope they start rolling out 5/5 MFs next and upgrade their banner gifts because rn MFs kinda feel like a weird middle ground
as someone said above, its busted but its not good
Yeah it's ash + arc lance but with worse antigimmicks
its designed for people to see the new big shiny special super strong thing
and not see the thinness of the veneer
This yr is so snooze for pmex
But they have a new cash cow so i doubt they would put in much effort for pmex anymore anw lmao
disagree but
How does that make sense
I genuinely haven't disliked the year at all
I find it much better than last year's
But arcs are overall so boringly designed
i do think that there is perhaps some increased market pressure from the fact that none of us can afford to eat or pay rent or stay alive and thus their money, like everyone else's, is getting tighter
It definitely drags it down
i think the arc suits are flimsy in conceit, but other units have been exceptionally compelling and new modes like dc have been as well
Goddayum
Leon can deliver some absurd numbers (mostly bmove) but his kit doesn't compress a lot outside of rebuff, status and damage y'know
but in a year where we got 5a lillie and arc steven shes still putting up respectable value/strength
arven's early appraisals were mid but people seem to really enjoy how he plays
usum elio and selene are also highlights
Elio with the homeless fisher drip, no thanks
im not entirely sure where the year cutoff is but i know sc barry was running when i got back into the game, people seem quite happy with him as a top tier bug unit
SS Submas are enough to satisfy me
if nothing else at least we didnt just get a deluge of mc units this year
Oh YEAH AND OLD MAN YAOI EVENT
Yeah we got a lot of love for niche characters
and instead we got a bunch of characters people werent expecting
OH MY GOD AND OLD MAN YAOI
youre so right
everyone say thank you larry and kabu
That's just part 1
Just wait until we get the brassius & Hassel event
Real
It is
Larry/Kabu is also tech middle age but old man yaoi is just an iconic phrase atp we just roll with it
no theyre old men i firmly believe larry is no younger than 50 and hassel/brassius are both in their 40s at BEST
sorry
off topic
but also unironically i really really hope whenever they add brassius his event is storngly hoenn-themed for his art pieces in hoenn easter egg
And that would be the most content Hoenn getting for 2025!
The funniest thing in the datamine stays the fact holiday has a bias for field bug units + we finally got hit the gas 9 somehow
pmex seems like the perfect environment for that kind of easter egg/connection to get acknowledged/expanded upon
Part 3 Drayden with uuhhh
is drayden the unova champion (?) or the blueberry academy kid
wait
Oh right, no team star admin this month 
Very handsome grandpa
or at least
who i thought of as unova champion
i thought it was him vs iris was your champion for black vs white
unova remains the only gen i have never successfully made it through a game of im sorry
Alder for BW
Iris for B2W2
but yes he is 100% invited to the old man yaoi club
I have never not been confused by that facial hair
I mean granted you didn't even fight Alder once throughout the main story in BW
He's post game technically
Should I go for ||nc red over holiday bugsy even if red is purely for meta and ice improvement and bugsy is the fave?I won't have enough to pity bugsy so I'd be banking on the 2%,while red is 1% if he is lasting till Jan 25 I am guaranteed to pity him||
hoenstly, they last into January, so you can save a lot and have pity till then.
Pokemas I think should keep doing old man yaoi events since that's what the public yearns for
||bugsy|| goes into january?
I'd wait for gem counts first, then you can decide.
you're going to get seasonal reruns/chances at picking up a missed or skipped seasonal sooner overall
so as much as i would say go for the fav in general, if you dont have enough to pity then i cant say i would recommend it here
Hmm
Datamine would give me 3 choices
1)|| if no faves next month,green light to pity for ncred||
2)||if no faves and im feeling risky,pray that I proc that 2% for bugsy||
3)||big faves next month and skip everything||
I don't think i can afford to shove bugsy in my rerun list
I'm basically waiting for December datamine for january. cuz December's kinda a skip month for me xD
dont forget the grandma yuri!! i for one cant wait for pmex to give bertha the wife she deserves
Why so?
Seasonal reruns are the worst banners in the game alongside variety splits
True
So skipping is kinda a suicide move unless you can buy a 3k bundle to compensate
And select later
Too much already
4 reruns to bag
Maybe 3 If I use my 3k paids for roxie
I'll just chuck ||HBugsy|| in the 50/50 list
No
Pokefair select are 5k x15 units
Since a year ago
With unlimited themed pool
3k was back when pokefair selects were 3-4 specific units
WHAT
So they never do 3k selects now?
My paids are useless then!
Unless I stack enough Google rewards for a second daily gem bundle I can't even use my paids
Seasonal and SC selects were still at 3k paid per select on 5th anniversary. There was a 3k select for variety pairs early this year too. But pokefair selects all 5k since this year.
This is 20 general??
It is
Wow this is great
Not only is it a skip month for the new unit(s)
But we get that to compensate for the recent arc fairs butchering our candy reserves
My candy reserves are still safe because i skipped all the arc fairs for now 
I really want ||AS Leon|| but i got almost no gems... 😔
Also this month feels a bit tame in terms of my fav count 
Compared to other Decembers in the past
Do we get a free ticket for the new varieties this month?
Exactly right?
The reruns on the other hand… yeesh
I mean we usually do with 3+ varieties
Nothing so far
Probably compensated by the 20 move candy coins
How is that related??
Its kinda like a free copy?
But it has nothing to do with variety
They just didn’t want to
As simple as that
Yeah they didnt theres just nothing going on banner wise
So ig they gotta make mone somehow
Bru-
Save for variety select for vlance or use paids on mix for fun
I need to grab variety select
Still need 3 more pairs. Proton, Petrel, Ball Guy
Need to rescue them non variety-like pairs stuck as variety 
Im done for SC selects, got Brycen-man and Bellelba
What shall I do🔥
saving is the better option regardless
On mix for fun is not that worth it. First, its not guaranteed like you can burn your paid gems and can get 3*, also i think mix pulls is only worth it when your roster are severely lacking of limited pairs or you want the featured mix unit. If not, better to just grab your missing unit via fair/variety/seasonal selects than depending on mix scout randomness
I’m debating about my spending plans
Got to 193k before Dec ||Probably gonna get way low cuz of holiday pairs but its worth it for the fits||
Otherwise this is a skip month
two months of no character faves is difficult
Whoops, I put something wrong
Hope i can catch up, currently on 150k but i got no plans on pulling any December pairs 
Also nice photo pic
You're def gonna be able to 
Nah i wont catch up if you got both in 1 multi each
There’s ||AS Leon and Holiday Lillie for new units||, but there’s for reruns ||NC Red, NC Leaf, Ultra Alola duo, maybe SC or Holiday tiered|| I’m interested in
Unfortunately I'm also going for the ||rerun banner|| 
||nc kantrio or pokewar?||
Tbf ||Leon and Lillie|| are characters I do really like, ||and those two have my fav starters from the respective region the starter originally comes from||
||i just noticed hlillie primarina is shiny
|| whats with all shiny hatched from eggs in pasio
My plans for December are saving dawg😭
I mean Pasio has no wild pokemons unless distortion 😭
Pasio is certainly no Blueberry terrarium where you can get shiny starters willy nilly
Its just hilda shiny octopus hatched from egg gifted by bea, silver shiny tyranitar from eusine's gift egg and now shiny primarina from elio's gift egg
Ny lisia is different case iirc, gifted by her fan
Seasonal
My egg box has 200 Alts worth of shines
Because December is a skip month, so it will only go up 
This datamine is kinda sad for me. ||A Lillie alt? But, it’s for the type I’m done investing into.||
Probably a skip month for me and hope new years is more interesting
I only have 62 shiny eggmons 
Increased odds
Se did get kartana + xurxitree in the files so,

Suspecting a “oops another arc suit” jumpscare for early January
I have like 100
It’s… too quiet.
That’s copium, the expected heatran turned out for galar
Expected primals as well
Imagine

Probably February for run up to anni
Kartana is pretty NY or tanabata themed
So
Yep, I was initially happy but when I saw Leon lasts less than 3 weeks......... I think they're pulling a NC Rosa 2.0

At least your expected heatran also false 
2.0 as it's next datamine
Well Buck wasn't gonna come in December that was for sure
there's now Thundurus next to Heatran

Until we know what those UBs are for 
Oh right there's Thundurus also added this datamine
Plenty faves, i need to prepare

How does it feel knowing there's 4 potential pulls lol
Good because i got 4 pities currently
More i think because 150k
Still not adding December gems
Noice
why does ||AS Leon|| leave on my birthday specifically
Because he doesn't want to ruin it
Heatran lol
Possibly Hot take btw: ||Moltres is more tempting than Charizard if I was to grab a fire unit, ngl||
I honestly understand your take in a way
100000%
True like, the reason im able to skip most of the meta units because i feel like i can have more fun when using legendaries than an electric rat that does 99999 dmg
||ArcLeon|| certainly feels underwhelming by arc suit standards
Which is already high lol
She looks like ass, so ez skip
He's Leon
If arc suits weren't a "3/4 of them suck" type of unit I wouldn't be skipping him
It’s not worth it for 500 point pity
Me when Ash was worth 400 points but this isn't
Smh
Both are ass kits
Ash is already super unfun
And frankly, uninspired by anything else other than money
At least there's N EXR and DC Cheren for me next month. If not, my roster wont have much changes lol
They're the same picture.jpg
The sync though
What about it, ash's sync is doodoo, this sync is doodoo without 5/5
it doesn’t help that there’s a lot of enemies in this game with immunities to things.
Who the hell looks at Ash and thought of his sync
Honestly though. Thank god it’s a mid month for me even with a fav being here. I’m broke from inactivity.
They're both biggus bonkus units with the same exact flaws
Which is canon because both characters canonically made me puke when they fought against each others in journeys

I would not survive anni at this rate if I ||pulled lillie||
I like Leon but
- he didn't get Cynthia outfit treatment
- he got the arc lance kit treatment but worse
- it smells awfully like bait
I'd rather wait for og to get 5/5
Since og is still good enough to be usable and fun to run
I was hoping he'd be a tech worth looking into since I need more firepower but he just looks middle of the road
Oh it’s just a fun animation sync
It’s a bad sync though yeah
Good thing there's ||NC Kantrio rerun tho||
I’m already happy with my mayziken, vilda, gloralt, and other units tbh
Yeah, don’t talk too much about it here though
My fire roster is ass and I'm still skipping NC leaf with that grandma funeral outfit
🤢
wow wow wow
get out
Thought you were chill
Not my fault she literally looks like a professional mourner
In her 70s
That's literally how they dress over here
Anyway summary for me: +1 “wait until a select” unit, +0 “must have” units. 
I'm definitely gonna look at my seasonal select choices and consider ||bugsy|| because||he's cute ||
Pls new kfc bird alt
Nah, the ||holiday reruns with the bad rates
i do want nc blue and pokewar diantha specifically, but i've skipped them once and i can do it again||
Yeah I feel like when you skip someone once it’s a lot easier to skip them forever.
Fair enuf