#Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)

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crude glacier
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because those two have nothing in common lmao

tardy fiber
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Well if heatran is sinnoh nc it will be early December, christmas is mid December

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Same month is the correlation

crude glacier
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yeah

tardy fiber
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Thats why im skipping everything this month. Pretty nice as since anni to this month, i only need to pull 1 pair

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Raikou, morgan, annilillie2 were free

crude glacier
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good stuff

tardy fiber
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Hopefully December is kind to me, need to be wary if kartana pops up in january and more faves on half anni

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Also hoping for arc suit N zekrom and lear hoopa to finally add arc suit in my faves roster

vestal leaf
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He lost to a JP years ago

crude glacier
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Really?

vestal leaf
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That JP had around 1.160k when chest had 1.070k

crude glacier
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You know where I can find a screenshot?

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Curious

vestal leaf
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Not really, it's probably buried in #main-plaza

crude glacier
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sheesh

vestal leaf
broken folio
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That is a dedicated saving.

nimble vapor
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|| I really want to pull on SS Emmet but I also want to get Elaine, I currently have 6K gems so I know i shouldn’t but it’s so tempting 😞 ||

vestal leaf
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Never scout until you have 36k

crude glacier
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at least wait until datamine

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but the ideal would be to avoid until 36k yeah

uneven pewter
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I mean a lot of the old vets on the server lurk on the game

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I have chest on friends and he still logs in

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He might not talk here as much

violet nebula
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Is he still saving gems?

vestal leaf
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I mean why wouldn't he

violet nebula
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It's just at that level now there is no point spending

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Even at EOS when it comes

vestal leaf
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Well he was always making a point out of it

tardy fiber
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True, as long as he is having fun

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We cannot force peoples, only advice

vestal leaf
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Pulling is part of the game

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And just like anything else, it's a part of the game that can be ignored

tardy fiber
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Yep i guess i could say its overall a good thing, mainly due to our f2p pairs and general pool units arent bad and they are workable to help in clearing contents. No pvp is a plus too, help reduce pulling temptations

white heart
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shouldn't this also take into account gems from DC

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since theoretical new player haven't claimed them yet

tardy fiber
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But it will be a false hope for old players, might be better to not count it on newer gem calcs

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2 DC every week, so 800 gems of false hope to old players

jagged turtle
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I planned to pull for ||Adaman|| on the 21st but i'm not sure if it's the best idea.

Ideally, I wanted to pull for ||Adaman > Dexio and the split Penny/Eliene.|| I already have a good Psychic team so ||Dexio|| isn't super important, I just like the character and ||Espeon|| (plus they're a pretty good unit) and I already have ||penny|| 3/5, so getting specifically ||Eleine|| would be harder.

Another thing to worry about is ||NC Leaf|| rerunning in December/January, which would complete my ||NC Kantrio team with NC Blue and NC Red.||

tardy fiber
jagged turtle
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but it might be in janurary.

tardy fiber
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Might be. So you still need to know what happens in December first. His banner wont expire in 7 days iirc so can totally wait for datamine

jagged turtle
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true.

tardy fiber
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Its different if you want early November units, as they expired before datamine. But no rush for those released on 21+. We even got a confirmed datamine date due to vietnam players

naive imp
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How many gens will we prolly get before the 25th? Does anyone got any idea?

broken folio
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You could check the pinned here for the details, assuming you get it all, it should be 12k-ish gems before 25th, counting from today.

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Tho about 2k is on the 25th itself, so 10k till 24th.

naive imp
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13K basicaly until the 25th

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That would give me around 20K for ||Irida||

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Not looking too bright for me

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Depending on how many gems on december i might also not be able to get ||NC Leaf||

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Man the pack of gems is realy bothersome

broken folio
topaz compass
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Why do you keep defending Dena for lowering free gems year to year, when they keep increasing the % of units that are limited vs free at the same time?

topaz compass
vestal leaf
# topaz compass Why do you keep defending Dena for lowering free gems year to year, when they ke...

Because it's not true.

2022 had 74 pairs (jan-nov)
2023 had 88 pairs (jan-nov)
2024 had 93 pairs (jan-nov)

2024 gave 28 new gen pools/freebies thanks to DC debut
2023 gave 20
2022 gave 30 thanks to lodge debut

The reason I disapprove of that kind of behaviour is that while ofc the number of limiteds has obviously increased, most of those limiteds at this point are niche or newer characters with less traction behind them as older, consolidated characters. And I'm happy they're limited because I don't recommend anyone's fave to get Malva'd, Iris'd or Sonia'd (powercrept to hell and back, forgotten, gen pooled with a shitty kit)

I'm tired of seeing people claiming the game "used to be much more generous" because we got a year where DeNa completely fucked up their free gem economy planning related to paid bundles, making basically the economy print gems out of thin air.

If 4 more multi per year were enough to decide the economy the game would've died in 2019. The reality is that the game is still extremely lenient with its free currency considering the limited pair value, the freebie pair value and the level of difficulty required to obtain more currency.

And while I ofc get that it's not cool to lose an average of 1/22 of the income, I still recognize you can't expect the gacha economy to normalize around the 2022 standard and that as it stands, it's still easily manageable to save unless you get unlucky for 6+ months in a row.

All this blabbering about "DeNa choking players", "gem income being non existent and unacceptable' only passes and ungratefulness for how good we had it on the regular, and how good we still get it compared to other f2p gachas to my eyes. Now I don't want to say my view is easily shareable and again, I understand the frustration of getting slightly less gems monthly, but if the quality of the game content increases as compensation I'll fully take it. DC,rally,HSE,UBs and the soon coop rework keep me interestedmore than 800 gems monthly

topaz compass
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So tired of people comparing this game compared to other gacha. The lesser of 2 evils isn't good lmao

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And weird you claim the year with good amount of free gems was a mistake lmao

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Seems more to me that giving out more gems saved the game and people were grateful and started spending more because of it

vestal leaf
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"so tired of people contextualising decisions"

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I never said them changing from 2022 economy to 2023 economy was a good decision, but I can see why they did it considering how the gacha economy changed once the pandemic "ended"

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The 3 and 7k bundles were clearly mismanaged early and gave too much of an advantage for too low of an investment. The reason 2022 touched high in sales wasn't because people were spending more, but because a lot of new players joined for third Anni (mostly ash), but the game content being low quality killed retention, plunging the sales towards the end of the year

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Paldea also clearly didn't carry enough lifeblood into the game as they hoped aside Iono carrying last January better than a lot of MFs

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Again, all I'm seeing is someone crying about the virtual money but not recognising the real quality we got in event, pair spotlighting and content managing since 4th Anni onwards

crude glacier
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thats the one thing I don’t get why they stopped

vestal leaf
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Yeah, I said that

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Iono carried because she's one of the most popular characters AND the PR was actually well done

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Rika is more popular but her pr was worse

crude glacier
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Not only would that compensate for the 19k but the game would surely grow

vestal leaf
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Her interview was cool conceptually

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But it was less promoted

tardy fiber
crude glacier
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wait what was the 19k month

vestal leaf
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Apri-may was 23k

vestal leaf
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This year

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We didn't get a 19k

crude glacier
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really? I was sure we had one

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was it the next one?

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May I mean

vestal leaf
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Lowest was 21.9

crude glacier
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did tlim readjust the 19k one to 21.9k?

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I think there was an event he added

vestal leaf
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Might've been the case

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I mean there's been multiple cases where the preliminary count ended up being 2-3k higher

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During last year

crude glacier
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would be nice to get a Pokémon presents this month…

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Didn’t we have a present on the 26th or something

vestal leaf
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23th

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I pointed it out to abdol

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He said it's probably a twitter rally

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Or smth

crude glacier
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Pokémon presents cope it is

fiery pollen
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I doubt it is unless it has a very specific release time

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Ala Nemona debut

cinder cave
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I need ||Irida|| but if they happen to release ||arc iris|| or ||arc alder|| for december or ||any of the bike lizards|| i may be cooked

vestal leaf
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Save up

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Units last pas datamine

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Past*

violet nebula
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Those ones especially will be around for awhile after a datamine

topaz compass
cinder cave
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Back to 16k crystals 👍

elder topaz
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got everything i wanted this month, time to save again 🦟

pure arrow
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back at above a pity!

tough oriole
inner zephyr
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hello guys do we have table for the remaining gems we can get per day until end of november?

upbeat lotus
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Yes, please check the pins here

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It's best not to mention this kind of talk because in this channel saving gems for favorites is encouraged. Please be mindful next times.

inner zephyr
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okay Sir im sorry for this. this is my first time here i will delete what i said

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good thing we can still get 10k gems til end of Nov

crude glacier
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6360 gems just on the 21st

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They really could’ve spread it out more

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Stamina will hurt

uneven pewter
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I was wondering where the bulk of the gems were for this month

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But yea i am sitting at 28k

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Slowly inching my way to 50k for an arcpair pity

elder topaz
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i’m at 1.1k 💀

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if ||ss emmet didn’t shaft me||, id have way more rn

uneven pewter
elder topaz
tardy fiber
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Chasing my faves pays off lately, only need to pull 1 unit within three months. I am preparing if more pops up in December CyrusSweat

oak crest
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Hit 9 pities, think at this point if I see any units I want I will pull

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(altho this month got nth I want)

tardy fiber
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Nice BarryPogChamp

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My max was 5 pities, i never reached level 9. Although i think Tai probably reached it, kalos fans got it rough before this month so Tai saved a lot

crude glacier
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Imagine unova fans trying to save

vestal leaf
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Not all regional fans are fans that wanna scout EVERY pair

tardy fiber
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Yep, like me focusing on legendary, mythical, UB, paradox is harder i think. But so far this year only has 11 faves and 3 of them are free.

oak crest
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only 11, thats like an average of 1 per month WEEZing

tardy fiber
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Not sure how many unova this year, but you guys got ||vhilbert and vhilda|| this month

oak crest
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they also got 2 NCs earlier this year as well

tardy fiber
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Well i also pulled that because they are legendary WEEZing

broken mulch
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I don’t have a region target haha, just singular characters

crude glacier
gloomy holly
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Welp, I missed 1.5k gems from HSE, but eh

cinder cave
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Whats HSE btw?

junior trout
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high score event; you use pairs that have a bonus (two types, usually) and use them to beat stages with varying levels of strength that you can decide

cinder cave
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Ooooh okay ty 🙏

junior trout
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we just had the fighting and steel one a few days ago

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np MallowHeart

cinder cave
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Then yeah i could 100% it (by a bit, getting the score for last move coin was hard)

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Honestly was afraid i might have missed an income of gems

junior trout
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i mean if you didn't do high score then, yea you did

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it was 300 per stage cleared

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but you can always make up for it MallowHeart

sturdy hatch
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Ingo event lasted for ages

vale scarab
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how the hell

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do u have 15k

coarse lynx
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What does these mean

gloomy holly
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Let's
Go
In
Search
Of
Wonder

cinder cave
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Damage Challenge

fiery pollen
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Travelers From A Distant Past

tough oriole
cinder cave
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LG is overwatch

crude glacier
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tsk tsk

broken mulch
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Gonna have double pity by end of December aww yeah

sterile river
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😭when will the nc kantrio rerun i need to save but i want adaman

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what is avg dec gemcount

trim heron
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I think about 25-27K

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a good portion comes from the 3K gift that's usually given on Christmas Eve or Day

sterile river
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do you think i should pull for adaman? currently on 24k gems and i want to get at least 2 of the nc kantrio, and maybe pull new arcs/mf if any left over

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can get to 30k by start of dec

vestal leaf
vestal leaf
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He needs investment unlike those

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And your gem count is too low to afford 2 MFs + something else

fiery pollen
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And Adaman would be staying until December 25th so there's time to wait for December update in 4 days

vale scarab
crude glacier
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Varies

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But yeah the max is 3/5

vestal leaf
broken mulch
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Man

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Got a strike cake in my inventory but no unit to use it on lol

topaz compass
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Is it 4 or 5 resets to datamine

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I mean is it 3 or 4

vestal leaf
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Wednesday

tough topaz
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My luck has been so good on the pull simulator lately and idk if that’s a prophecy or a warning

crude glacier
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Dw

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It’s a different event entirely

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So it doesn’t weigh on the probabilities of poma

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Well poma doesn’t have conditional probability but still it should be fine

tough topaz
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I know statistically it doesn’t matter but superstitiously it does yknow?

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And honestly which is more important

crude glacier
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the one that makes u sleep better at night

gloomy holly
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Welp, I'm have full pity for a single non-AS unit now

dark oar
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currently at 16k gems 😮

wide walrus
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Currently at 3k gems js started playing after quitting I have unfinished story on hard mode

vale scarab
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I really want to get ||adaman|| but there is a high chance for ||nc kantrio|| next month :(

fiery pollen
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Just wait until datamine, it's only in 4 days and he'll be staying well over until next month

tough topaz
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I think I should change how I do dailies

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Rn I’m spending ~400 paid a day from the champion bundle on master fair dailies with nothing to show for it

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Prob gonna swap to duo/trio banners only to save gems

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||unrelated but every time I have a dead spark on Adaman I die a little inside||

vestal leaf
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1% is very bad when you get like 5-10 rolls of it

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I only do that when there's a good triple pf

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Mix is much more valuable than mfs too

tough topaz
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Yea thinking about it you need to spend 10k paid to hit odds on an MF

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What are the odds for mix? Isn’t that also like 2% + however much for a random PF?

vestal leaf
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It's 5.5% total

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2+3.5%

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If you don't like th featured it's "only" 3.5%

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Mix units do be really good as of now and I'm expecting next batch to be even better tbfh

tough topaz
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Oh that’s way better than I thought

vestal leaf
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Yeah ofc you gotta remember

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% are %

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So you could always pull a seasonal to 4-5/5

tough topaz
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Well yeah but overall

vestal leaf
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But overall shooting a daily in mix to placate FOMO still a good way to invest

tough topaz
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4%+ for a “good” unit is worth it

vestal leaf
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As it eventually leads to pity

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Unlike all the dailies you lose upon banner reset

tough topaz
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Just gotta figure out how much to spend on it…

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I’m fine spending the ~$5 a month on the orb package but most of the other deals suck

vestal leaf
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I do around 5-10 dailies on it per month because I spend 4€ every 40-50 days in PoMa

tough topaz
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Oh that’s fair

vestal leaf
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I'm at 100/300

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After 1+ year of mix existing

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I got some nice spooks

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It's nice to daily there when you haven't scouted in a while

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And really want to throw a single away

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But I really can't recommend doing it every time you feel an itch

tough topaz
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Eh once a day should be enough for me

vestal leaf
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That's a select per month

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Just remember

tough topaz
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Like one single a day*

vestal leaf
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Selects are easily the best investment for paids

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Especially the seasonal ones

tough topaz
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Yeah that’s what I’m saving the rest of my gems for

vestal leaf
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Just train your self restraint to optimize resources

tough topaz
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Assuming we get some around NY

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That’s gonna be the tough part

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Done a few too many yolo dailies on ||eri||

vestal leaf
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Speaking of, gem check

spring lodge
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starting at 0 gems

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gotta start saving for next characters

gloomy holly
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||I got so depressed that I spent my gems on Adaman getting a copy of him, but ended up going to pity||

elder topaz
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rip

stoic wagon
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last big gem day of the month

tardy fiber
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So i will enter next datamine with 150k gems

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Hope not many faves

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If next month got another strike fave pair, i probably use candy on it and hope to 3/5 fall iris via seasonal select instead

crude glacier
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Brace yourself, it’s mf month

tardy fiber
tardy fiber
elder topaz
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me at 8.7k gems rn 🧍‍♀️

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||this wouldn’t have happened if ss emmet was nice to me!!!!!!!||

tardy fiber
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I always expect every banner i want will not be nice CyrusSweat so saving for pities will be much easier

vale scarab
oak basin
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how many points do you get per multi?

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if i had to get to 364/400 for 1/5 irida, is finishing it out to pity for 2/5 worth?

versed flame
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+pity

jade lavaBOT
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To Reach Max Scout Points (Pity)

400 Points

  • 12 Multis will cost 36,000 gems and net you 396 points.
    • 2x singles OR 1x single + 1 daily discount OR 4 daily discounts will net you the rest.
    • Standard Pity: 36,600 gems

500 Points

  • 15 Multis will cost 45,000 gems and net you 495 points.
    • 2x singles OR 1x single + 2 daily discounts OR 5 daily discounts will net you the rest.
    • Arc Fair Scout Pity: 45,600 gems

Scout Points: 3 per Single , 33 per Multi , 1 per Paid Discount.

versed flame
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33 per multi ^

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since ||irida|| lasts a while you might want to wait until at least this datamine to make your decision

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but it is only one multi and one single left (3300 gems) which may be worth one move level/tech candy to you if you were planning to level this unit anyway

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oh and maybe spoiler the unit name since it's a currently running unit

pure arrow
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Gem count as of completing the Submas EBE stuff and the Masters Day events (but not the weekly Rally); after I do the Rally I’ll need around a 25,590 gem count for December if I have to pity both MFs (I’m predicting slightly less since I have a few sync pair stories banked + I remember the December MF banners running until early January)

junior trout
vale scarab
trim heron
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It does

vale scarab
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so a few would be like 10-15

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thats 150 thats not alot ..

wide walrus
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so it could be maxium 1k

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If they are all evolution or Legendary area Sync pairs

vale scarab
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u mean legendary adventures?

wide walrus
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Ye I think that's itsanme

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Name*

maiden kayak
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tmr datamine?

crude glacier
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tomorrow night / 27th morning

vestal leaf
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Yeah 40 hours

vale scarab
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Do u guys wish for a nc kantrio rerun?

elder topaz
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yes

vale scarab
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This December?

crude glacier
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itll come in january

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new year

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probably

vale scarab
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Hm

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So we won't get to know in this datamine

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:/

nimble vapor
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Hopefully it’s January gives me time to save gems

nimble vapor
elder topaz
cinder cave
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I just hope no arc suit next month cuz i got nothing💀

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Well i do got 2k but yknow

vale scarab
tough topaz
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I have some stuff saved but a new arc suit means no ||Elaine|| and probably no ||nc leaf||

vale scarab
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But the thing is if no nc kantrio next month

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It won't be confirmed for next month either

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Then I will be very confused about should I spin for ||adaman|| or not

tough topaz
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It’s a safe bet to skip even if you don’t see the kantrio next month

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||there’s a very realistic chance they will rerun every eevee day||

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Based on zero evidence sure, but still

cinder cave
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I hope datamine has no favs so i can pull for ||Elaine|| cuz i really need more support AcerolaPensive

vale scarab
elder topaz
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beware of december gang

tough topaz
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True!!!

vale scarab
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I doubt I will still be playing next year

elder topaz
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that’s when they introduce new powerful pairs

nimble vapor
vale scarab
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Any mobile game in general

cinder cave
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True but fav > powerful (unless fav not powerful AcerolaPensive)

tough topaz
vale scarab
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It's not confirmed that Jan will have kantrio

nimble vapor
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Highly speculated tho

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You should still save regardless

vale scarab
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Speculation =/= confirmation

vale scarab
tough topaz
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Either way saving can’t really bite you

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If you want ||adaman|| over ||kantrio|| then pull for him lol

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After datamine* in case something crazy shows up

cinder cave
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I have ||Kantrio at 3/5|| but || 0/5 nc leaf|| so idk RosaThink

vale scarab
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It could be cuz no rerun

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Or cuz it reruns in jan

tough topaz
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Yeah but like

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Would you rather pull ||kantrio|| or ||adaman||

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Say both were running rn

vale scarab
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Or would I rather pull ||adaman|| or ||nothing||

vale scarab
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But

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The dilemma is in the case kantrio doesn't rerun in December

cinder cave
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Then wait for datamine, its only like 1 day or so TabithaHehe

tough topaz
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^

vale scarab
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Yea but then there is another problem

tough topaz
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If they don’t rerun see if you can skip the month

vale scarab
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What if it isn't in December

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But is in jan

tough topaz
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Save for another pity for January

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Most of the good pairs should last until datamine I think

vale scarab
vale scarab
tough topaz
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True

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Either way for sure wait until this datamine

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You can decide based on what shows up

vale scarab
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Yepi don't even have enough for pity yet anyways

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Around 20k so far

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But haven't gotten all the gems from eevee events

cinder cave
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Just wait 1 day and we'll see ClayThumbsUp

tough topaz
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Yo I hit 30k unpaid gems today

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Let’s go

cinder cave
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Well done

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I need to learn the ways of saving too.....

vale scarab
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Gg

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Wow nc red is just an ice Giacomo

tough topaz
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Time celebrate by wasting them all

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NC red is actually busted yeah

cinder cave
tough topaz
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Iirc he has guaranteed freeze too

cinder cave
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Yeah

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2 ice rebuffs too

vale scarab
cinder cave
nimble vapor
vale scarab
vale scarab
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Damn nc red farms so many sp atk up

cinder cave
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Theyre not exactly the same considering ||nc red|| is spam buddy move

vale scarab
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The rebuff only working once only applies to that specific enemy right?

cinder cave
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Blizzard is AOE and you need it to use buddy move anyways

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Any rebuff works tho

trim heron
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I think generally speaking for NC Red you have to use Blizzard first

cinder cave
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But best to use blizzsrd first

trim heron
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Which is AoE

vale scarab
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And neither does he have aoe sync

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So will the rebuff activate if I target all of them separately

vale scarab
trim heron
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And her sync always provides AoE Rebuff

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(If I recall correctly, because I don’t have her moment)

cinder cave
cinder cave
vestal leaf
vestal leaf
cinder cave
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Yeah so better to use AOE first

trim heron
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tbf with those three you're most likely to use AoE first anyways

cinder cave
trim heron
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There's maybe a scenario for NC Red you don't use his AoE move first, but that scenario required a 2nd Rebuff pair in the team

cinder cave
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Yeah like any arc unit or using discharge with nc blue first

maiden kayak
cinder cave
tardy fiber
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Hope there's some teaser today like they tease stakataka 1 day earlier before datamine if elioalt Hopium

tough oriole
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PSA: don’t forget to do the Daily Co Op Eevee battle!

tardy fiber
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Coping for a teaser Hopium

crude glacier
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it’s an unspoken rule to overreact when datamine is mentioned

topaz compass
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So not this reset but one after? Not bad

robust plaza
tough oriole
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Event Vouchers at no stamina cost (and some other 1st time completion stuff)

robust plaza
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the vouchers are for the eve event right?

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or powerup tickets

cinder cave
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Eve event iirc

vale scarab
vale scarab
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Correct me if I'm wrong tho

tardy fiber
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Eve is LGIWO

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Lets go in search of wonder or something

vale scarab
#

Yes

tardy fiber
#

The co-op is for eeveelutions variety event

#

Not much good stuffs in there but i do grab the lucky scrolls and cookies

#

Although lucky scrolls can be obtained from the new training area, but i rather use my stamina elsewhere than that

vale scarab
#

tbh alot of good stuff

#

gold move candy

#

coin

#

power ups

tardy fiber
#

Oh i forgot about those because i already claimed it day 1

#

So i only remember leftovers

tranquil elbow
#

Bundle EX: 18/20
Bundle EX+: 6/20
It's better to save paid gems than doing singles as of now right? I may not get 10k but at least i could do the 4.5k paid for 3/5 pokefairs

dark oar
#

i'm actually out of bundles

#

so it'll be all nonpaid gems (18k) + 6k paid gems 😮

tardy fiber
#

I only grab co-op bundle

#

I think probably enough for me before ny select

stoic wagon
#

hopefully good gem count next month

vernal glade
#

Same here

dark oar
#

Praying for 33k gems.

crude glacier
#

Praying for at least 30k

tough topaz
#

Yknow nobody ever says they hope for a low gem count

crude glacier
#

Dena employees and share holders are

vestal leaf
#

I'm expecting 27-28k

vale scarab
#

Dena reading this discord and making it 20k

vernal glade
#

If it’s 27k or 30k that be a miracle.

crude glacier
#

It’s average for December

trim heron
#

I do know a good portion from December comes from the 3K gift on Christmas Eve or Day

#

But even without that gift, it’s still on average higher than many months HilbertHmm

orchid lark
crude glacier
#

thats gotta be on the limit on necroposting

#

gl for nc part 3 next month though

elder topaz
elder topaz
cinder cave
#

The calamity

uneven pewter
#

Finally saved up a full normal pity

#

Time to hit the first arc pity

wide walrus
#

second day of saving

tardy fiber
#

Skip month thankfully CyrusSweat

vale scarab
#

well ||adaman|| is gettign skipped

crisp oracle
#

I think I'm finally fucking free || #main-plaza message||

#

MY TWO YEARS OF SAVING AND WAITING HAS PAID OFF

#

FINALLY

tardy fiber
#

Congrats MallowHeart

crisp oracle
#

||please don't be a select I swear to god||

#

||if it is I'm done||

fallen path
#

pretty mid so far

tardy fiber
#

The only thing good for me next month, are N exr, ssgrimsley PB and dc cheren i guess

#

Other than those are just skip

crisp oracle
#

Depending on the exact results, 27 months of waiting might finally be over

fallen path
#

ullmark does need a hug in ottawa these days

#

anything free for december yet.. Hopium

elder topaz
#

this is such a SKIP

#

||except for nc kantrio ughhhhh kill me rn||

tawny cedar
#

Hmm

#

Multiple possible shits

fallen path
#

oh yeah, rip to the vietnamese...

tawny cedar
#

Tbh idk if i should go for a fave or skip to save for new years

crisp oracle
#

What did we do

fallen path
#

eos in vietnam

#

if you two are part of diaspora and not living in vietnam, you ok

crisp oracle
#

I’m in America

#

Idk about Gakon though

fallen path
#

yeah i knew that, you're around my timezone lol

vernal glade
#

Looking like I’m saving next month.

fallen path
lilac crescent
#

Oh dear, that doesn't sound good

vernal glade
#

Oh no really?

elder topaz
#

yikes

#

i’m vietnamese too but i live in america

fallen path
#

yeah its only if you live there or are traveling/staying in vietnam for work/vacay where i suppose you would be affected

tawny cedar
#

Should I
A)||bag holiday bugsy cuz I like him+that outfit is cute af||
B)||go for ncred as unlike other meta pairs,he seems to be completely immune to powercreep and looks like a strong addition to my Ice roster||
C)save for new years and hope for faves then

vernal glade
#

Well I shall check back here in the morning.

fallen path
#

gotta see the gem count first

vernal glade
#

True.

elder topaz
#

i’m doing what i always do. save up until the last day of a banner and ||go ham||

#

i only did that once

tawny cedar
tardy fiber
#

Need to continue saving. Now there's even xurkitree and kartana models in datamine files Hopium

tawny cedar
#

2%/skip better if I can't pity,1% better if i can

#

Wait,||is ncred gonna go on till late January like other mfs,or just dec?||

oak basin
#

alright, its confirmed

oak basin
#

not sure why he wouldnt

tawny cedar
#

Hmm

#

Then i can for sure bag him

#

But dunno if i should go for this|| pretty big major powercreep immune meta unit|| or a medium fave like ||bugsy||

oak basin
#

frustratingly ||leon only goes to dec 17??||

#

which means i have to fully sit it out for saving

#

was lightly hoping i could throw some at it if blue was nice

#

since i have both dc tierno and sygna morty as sun setters now, im thinking ||nc leaf is lower than nc red as a 'if blue doesnt fully require pity||

tawny cedar
#

Is ||ncleaf|| even meta anymore?feel like they also got powercreeped kinda hard in just a year

oak basin
#

but i might also just need to be conservative with my gems looking ahead to poison + rock as my next two problem types to lock in units for

oak basin
#

i dont think shes 'not meta' tho

sweet tide
#

This new banner running for 3 wks is insane lol

elder topaz
#

that’s actually crazy

#

the banner run duration just keep getting more cruel

violet nebula
#

Don't like Leon so no pulling, fire saturated as is

vestal leaf
#

To be fair it's 1 arc Vs 2 NC situation so I'll take it

#

On terms of bait value

sweet tide
#

And when u get another arc in jan...lmao

violet nebula
vestal leaf
#

It would be a first wouldn't it

sweet tide
#

We still have dark and bug in the files so i think its lining up to be one per mth until half anni

drowsy birch
#

...... if that happens i'll be mad.

vestal leaf
#

Two 1% in two different consecutive months

vestal leaf
drowsy birch
#

I'd happily skip Leon for a water arc.

#

But if they're gonna keep introducing arcs every 3 months like this

#

I can't keep up as f2p..

sweet tide
#

Also think that since jan datamines are early, they just cut leon's run time to force bait pulls before the jan update

vestal leaf
#

You're not supposed to keep up as f2p

#

That's what the gacha consumer model is

sweet tide
#

Yeah for a gacha game, if u are f2p u will never keep up

vestal leaf
#

That's why you should scout only what you like

#

Not meta or whatever

drowsy birch
#

Yeah...

#

I REALLY don't like leon personally...

#

and I REALLY don't like ANOTHER freaking charizard.

sweet tide
#

His kit is just like him

#

Boring

#

🥱

drowsy birch
#

So does most people it seems in the lounge

crisp oracle
sweet tide
#

Brybry — Today at 1:52 PM
We'll get 20 Move Candy Coins from the Shiny Rayquaza Event's shop

#

Anw good news

#
  • 3k gems on xmas (i think)
drowsy birch
#

is that 20 universal candy coins or for each all

sweet tide
vestal leaf
#

I really hate kits like this

tawny cedar
#

I wish I could wait for datamine

#

||if i lock in on nc red i can wait,but if i lock in on bugsy I can't||

sweet tide
fiery pollen
#

Say you want a fire nuker, is ||NC Leaf|| is just better to grab?

vestal leaf
#

I wish he had more than inferno + a buddy nuke but they really went out of their way to remove the fun part of his base version

sweet tide
fiery pollen
#

Yeah I am aware but idk the rest of the kit is just

sweet tide
#

Altho he only has 1 sync multiplier so idk. I guess u have to wait for dmg calcs

fiery pollen
#

He lacks innate yeah

#

Is questionable really

oak basin
#

i was wondering if his innate was that +seun on sync thing

sweet tide
#

The kit is so lazy

crisp oracle
#

||I actually like struggling to win rather than just having a nuke||

oak basin
#

i mean

#

as someone who was here for og sygna red debut

#

it kinda just reads like that did

fiery pollen
#

From brybry site mentioned his sync has SEUN but that's usually applied after right?

sweet tide
#

Yeah its applied after sync

fiery pollen
#

The kit reads like sync then bmove nuke

sweet tide
#

Did we get ebe for arc fair champ trio does anyone rmb

vestal leaf
oak basin
#

big 'wow holy shit this is busted' but also somewhat one-note

#

like his passive slate is

#

just kinda stupid lmao

crisp oracle
#

||These pairs are merely busted but not good||

sweet tide
#

His passives are so boring

oak basin
#

who needs this lmao

vestal leaf
#

The AoE sync & max don't really do much when you have 470 spa but no multipliers

sweet tide
#

Why do we need one passive for piercing gaze

fiery pollen
#

The B Move is hella cracked but idk if that alone would sway me, and I genuinely need a fire tech nuker

#

Not just piercing gaze, it's also vigilance!

sweet tide
#

Its year 6 and we are still getting one liner passives ugh

oak basin
#

like ok. you have sure hit on inferno's 100% burn to 50% acc, thats nice

violet nebula
#

There were more deserving arcs than leon...

oak basin
#

and granted, this is also on top of guaranteed* fire rebuff

vestal leaf
#

I genuinely read the kit and was like

"Oh shit it's a support pog"
"Wait where are the defence buffs"
"Wait wdym tech exr"

sweet tide
fiery pollen
#

Tech EXR
No innate
Be fr

vestal leaf
oak basin
#

and i can see the idea of tech + passive to give strike aoe

#

it certainly is more interesting than just making him another fire striker

grim meadow
#

do we know gem counts or am i too early lol

sweet tide
vestal leaf
#

Ain't no way

grim meadow
#

i feel like gem counts will be high from rayquaza event

sweet tide
grim meadow
#

lmao ok

vestal leaf
#

People already asking gem count after 1 (ONE) HOUR

#

Wtf

#

Y'all need to chill

grim meadow
#

me af

oak basin
#

i mean

#

i dont think its that deep clair

grim meadow
#

"y'all" its just me

oak basin
#

its just one person who wasnt sure if we had it yet

grim meadow
#

asking a simple question

oak basin
#

and didnt like

#

come off aggro asking

fiery pollen
oak basin
#

just was wondering

#

its easy enough to just say 'too early'

sweet tide
#

Its a strike with a tech sync is what they wanted to do

vestal leaf
sweet tide
#

We could have had more with the passives tbh

fiery pollen
#

Strike with tech EXR more like

vestal leaf
sweet tide
#

We dont even have a circle for leon

#

What for they give him protect

#

Ugh

grim meadow
#

protect is so funny

vestal leaf
#

No circle, no sun, but protect doeeeee

sweet tide
#

I saw protect and just got annoyed

#

I expected him to get a circle

fiery pollen
#

He's only copying the other Charizard user

vestal leaf
#

Protect could've been fun if it had something

fiery pollen
#

Lmao

vestal leaf
#

But 🚫

grim meadow
#

applying circle along with df wouldve been the obvious move

sweet tide
#

Portect brain gain 9 is all it does

oak basin
tardy fiber
#

Luckily i got a new side goal, so i got something to do during skip month

vestal leaf
#

DFs are really meh so focusing an arc on it SHOULD mean you'd wanna out HUGE passives to compensate

sweet tide
vestal leaf
#

But lol

maiden kayak
#

meh month skip

oak basin
lunar thistle
#

Is NC Leaf better than Arc Lance though

grim meadow
#

cant wait for the ebe where you need protect or you get hit by aoe fissure

lunar thistle
#

I think there's a good chance

#

Since NC Leaf actually has a load of utility

lunar thistle
#

Isn't there the Noland UB

vestal leaf
#

Yea

oak basin
#

better is such an ambiguous word tho

#

like

vestal leaf
#

Btw

#

When I read the kit

oak basin
#

you can make a case either way

vestal leaf
#

I was also expecting sync burst 1

lunar thistle
vestal leaf
#

Because yknow

#

"oh ofc it's gonna refill protect & the buddy"

lunar thistle
#

Where the utility also benefits its team

vestal leaf
#

erm +2 smun after sync

#

as a 5/5 tile

lunar thistle
#

And NC Leaf does that perfectly with B Leer and sun

tardy fiber
fiery pollen
#

He could never be SS Gladion

lunar thistle
sweet tide
oak basin
vestal leaf
oak basin
#

just saying 'x is better than y' is kinda nothing unless its like, arc cyn is better than og 3* bugsy or w/e

vestal leaf
#

Because rn huge move nukes like his aren't all that unique

sweet tide
#

The kit is this way because of the 700Bp tbh. If it was 400 i think we would have gotten more things

oak basin
#

and before i forget

lunar thistle
#

I'm only really considering 3v3 gamemodes and LG

sweet tide
#

Kit wise, nc leaf > arc leon for me

mossy hawk
sweet tide
#

Nc leaf just provides more coverage for situations

vestal leaf
mossy hawk
#

It is 2 sync move up next per hit

vestal leaf
#

Still

sweet tide
vestal leaf
#

+6 smun with one 90% multiplier is really something else

#

And no native

vestal leaf
#

I multied Cynthia because her arc suit actually was pretty unique

oak basin
fiery pollen
#

If he had a more tech appropriate kit I might've fold lol

sweet tide
#

Leon is a striker tbh i wont even consider him a tech lol

vestal leaf
#

Yeah he's a striker with tech ex

#

Pretty much

lunar thistle
#

It's like saying Lifeline is washed

sweet tide
#

They just put him there for a pepega nuke, which if it turns out tragic i would have a good laugh

fiery pollen
#

When's ||NC Leaf rerunning|| btw?

lunar thistle
#

Now

sweet tide
lunar thistle
#

Well, not now; this year

fiery pollen
#

Noice

vestal leaf
#

25/12 - 25/1

fiery pollen
#

Whole month run?

#

Noted thanks

sweet tide
#

Yes

vestal leaf
#

I guess my fire roster stays dead

oak basin
sweet tide
#

Poma day masterfair reruns are always for 1 mth

fiery pollen
#

I can wait for update then

vestal leaf
lunar thistle
#

Aren't the other oens of the Kantrio

#

Also rerunnig

vestal leaf
#

I guess I keep coping on strike exr Anni N

oak basin
#

we all already know that the arc suits, like superawakening, are not ultimately for those of us who are thin on gems

vestal leaf
vestal leaf
sweet tide
#

I hope they keep superawakening to pokefairs only lmao

oak basin
#

... yes, obviously

vestal leaf
#

Because every shaft is 45k + candies

oak basin
#

but like

#

my point is more

#

theyre designing arc suits to be flashy

#

arc leon is exactly that

vestal leaf
oak basin
#

as someone said above, its busted but its not good

sweet tide
#

Omg did we get an upgrade from gifts

#

For arc fair

#

Its so pathetic

vestal leaf
oak basin
#

its designed for people to see the new big shiny special super strong thing

#

and not see the thinness of the veneer

sweet tide
#

This yr is so snooze for pmex

#

But they have a new cash cow so i doubt they would put in much effort for pmex anymore anw lmao

oak basin
#

disagree but

lunar thistle
vestal leaf
#

I find it much better than last year's

#

But arcs are overall so boringly designed

oak basin
#

i do think that there is perhaps some increased market pressure from the fact that none of us can afford to eat or pay rent or stay alive and thus their money, like everyone else's, is getting tighter

vestal leaf
#

It definitely drags it down

sweet tide
#

Its boring for me like the VAs were at least doing something

#

The AArc is just wtv

vestal leaf
#

Well

#

At least Leon's theme is a fucking banger

oak basin
#

i think the arc suits are flimsy in conceit, but other units have been exceptionally compelling and new modes like dc have been as well

vestal leaf
#

Goddayum

fiery pollen
oak basin
#

rika & poppy have been standouts imo

#

and i dont even particularly like poppy

vestal leaf
#

Arc suits are really cool on paper

#

But only Cynthia felt like a real "suit" to me

oak basin
#

but in a year where we got 5a lillie and arc steven shes still putting up respectable value/strength

#

arven's early appraisals were mid but people seem to really enjoy how he plays

vestal leaf
#

Ill keep waiting for his rerun with nemona

#

Until then it's a skip

oak basin
#

usum elio and selene are also highlights

vestal leaf
#

Elio with the homeless fisher drip, no thanks

oak basin
#

im not entirely sure where the year cutoff is but i know sc barry was running when i got back into the game, people seem quite happy with him as a top tier bug unit

fiery pollen
#

SS Submas are enough to satisfy me

oak basin
#

if nothing else at least we didnt just get a deluge of mc units this year

fiery pollen
#

Oh YEAH AND OLD MAN YAOI EVENT

vestal leaf
#

Yeah we got a lot of love for niche characters

oak basin
#

and instead we got a bunch of characters people werent expecting

#

OH MY GOD AND OLD MAN YAOI

#

youre so right

#

everyone say thank you larry and kabu

fiery pollen
#

Thank you old man yaoi 💖💖💖

#

Peak event

vestal leaf
#

Just wait until we get the brassius & Hassel event

fiery pollen
#

Real

oak basin
#

thats not old man yaoi

#

thats middle aged man yaoi

fiery pollen
#

It is

fiery pollen
#

Larry/Kabu is also tech middle age but old man yaoi is just an iconic phrase atp we just roll with it

oak basin
#

no theyre old men i firmly believe larry is no younger than 50 and hassel/brassius are both in their 40s at BEST

#

sorry

#

off topic

#

but also unironically i really really hope whenever they add brassius his event is storngly hoenn-themed for his art pieces in hoenn easter egg

fiery pollen
#

And that would be the most content Hoenn getting for 2025!

vestal leaf
#

The funniest thing in the datamine stays the fact holiday has a bias for field bug units + we finally got hit the gas 9 somehow

oak basin
#

pmex seems like the perfect environment for that kind of easter egg/connection to get acknowledged/expanded upon

fiery pollen
oak basin
#

is drayden the unova champion (?) or the blueberry academy kid

fiery pollen
#

Neither

#

He's Grandpa

oak basin
#

wait

tardy fiber
#

Oh right, no team star admin this month BarryPogChamp

oak basin
#

ok yeah

#

hes unova champion

fiery pollen
#

Very handsome grandpa

oak basin
#

or at least

#

who i thought of as unova champion

#

i thought it was him vs iris was your champion for black vs white

#

unova remains the only gen i have never successfully made it through a game of im sorry

fiery pollen
#

Alder for BW
Iris for B2W2

oak basin
#

but yes he is 100% invited to the old man yaoi club

sturdy hatch
fiery pollen
#

I mean granted you didn't even fight Alder once throughout the main story in BW

#

He's post game technically

tawny cedar
#

Should I go for ||nc red over holiday bugsy even if red is purely for meta and ice improvement and bugsy is the fave?I won't have enough to pity bugsy so I'd be banking on the 2%,while red is 1% if he is lasting till Jan 25 I am guaranteed to pity him||

dark oar
fiery pollen
tawny cedar
oak basin
#

banner ends 12/31

#

so no

#

but i would also say

dark oar
oak basin
#

you're going to get seasonal reruns/chances at picking up a missed or skipped seasonal sooner overall

#

so as much as i would say go for the fav in general, if you dont have enough to pity then i cant say i would recommend it here

tawny cedar
#

Hmm

#

Datamine would give me 3 choices

#

1)|| if no faves next month,green light to pity for ncred||
2)||if no faves and im feeling risky,pray that I proc that 2% for bugsy||
3)||big faves next month and skip everything||

#

I don't think i can afford to shove bugsy in my rerun list

dark oar
#

I'm basically waiting for December datamine for january. cuz December's kinda a skip month for me xD

oak basin
vestal leaf
#

Seasonal reruns are the worst banners in the game alongside variety splits

sturdy hatch
#

True

vestal leaf
#

So skipping is kinda a suicide move unless you can buy a 3k bundle to compensate

#

And select later

tawny cedar
#

4 reruns to bag

#

Maybe 3 If I use my 3k paids for roxie

#

I'll just chuck ||HBugsy|| in the 50/50 list

vestal leaf
#

Roxie would be 5k

#

Not 3

tawny cedar
#

?

#

Why

#

Aren't selects 3k

#

10x ones

vestal leaf
#

No

#

Pokefair select are 5k x15 units

#

Since a year ago

#

With unlimited themed pool

#

3k was back when pokefair selects were 3-4 specific units

tawny cedar
#

WHAT

#

So they never do 3k selects now?

#

My paids are useless then!

#

Unless I stack enough Google rewards for a second daily gem bundle I can't even use my paids

vale scarab
#

well im not pulling adaman

#

i really wanted him tho

hearty portal
trim heron
#

It is

crude glacier
#

Wow this is great

#

Not only is it a skip month for the new unit(s)

#

But we get that to compensate for the recent arc fairs butchering our candy reserves

tardy fiber
cinder cave
#

I really want ||AS Leon|| but i got almost no gems... 😔

trim heron
#

Also this month feels a bit tame in terms of my fav count SeleneLul

#

Compared to other Decembers in the past

crude glacier
#

Do we get a free ticket for the new varieties this month?

trim heron
#

The reruns on the other hand… yeesh

crude glacier
cinder cave
#

Probably compensated by the 20 move candy coins

crude glacier
#

How is that related??

cinder cave
#

Its kinda like a free copy?

crude glacier
#

But it has nothing to do with variety

#

They just didn’t want to

#

As simple as that

cinder cave
#

Yeah they didnt theres just nothing going on banner wise

#

So ig they gotta make mone somehow

tawny cedar
#

Save for variety select for vlance or use paids on mix for fun

tardy fiber
#

I need to grab variety select

#

Still need 3 more pairs. Proton, Petrel, Ball Guy

#

Need to rescue them non variety-like pairs stuck as variety Hopium

#

Im done for SC selects, got Brycen-man and Bellelba

tawny cedar
upbeat lotus
#

saving is the better option regardless

tardy fiber
#

On mix for fun is not that worth it. First, its not guaranteed like you can burn your paid gems and can get 3*, also i think mix pulls is only worth it when your roster are severely lacking of limited pairs or you want the featured mix unit. If not, better to just grab your missing unit via fair/variety/seasonal selects than depending on mix scout randomness

trim heron
#

I’m debating about my spending plans

livid rover
#

Got to 193k before Dec ||Probably gonna get way low cuz of holiday pairs but its worth it for the fits||

#

Otherwise this is a skip month MortySigh two months of no character faves is difficult

trim heron
#

Whoops, I put something wrong

tardy fiber
#

Also nice photo pic

livid rover
#

You're def gonna be able to WEEZing

tardy fiber
trim heron
#

There’s ||AS Leon and Holiday Lillie for new units||, but there’s for reruns ||NC Red, NC Leaf, Ultra Alola duo, maybe SC or Holiday tiered|| I’m interested in

livid rover
trim heron
#

Tbf ||Leon and Lillie|| are characters I do really like, ||and those two have my fav starters from the respective region the starter originally comes from||

tardy fiber
#

||i just noticed hlillie primarina is shiny BarryPogChamp || whats with all shiny hatched from eggs in pasio

tawny cedar
#

My plans for December are saving dawg😭

fiery pollen
#

I mean Pasio has no wild pokemons unless distortion 😭

#

Pasio is certainly no Blueberry terrarium where you can get shiny starters willy nilly

tardy fiber
#

Its just hilda shiny octopus hatched from egg gifted by bea, silver shiny tyranitar from eusine's gift egg and now shiny primarina from elio's gift egg

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Ny lisia is different case iirc, gifted by her fan

vestal leaf
vestal leaf
tardy fiber
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Because December is a skip month, so it will only go up LarryDead

winged fossil
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This datamine is kinda sad for me. ||A Lillie alt? But, it’s for the type I’m done investing into.||
Probably a skip month for me and hope new years is more interesting

tardy fiber
vestal leaf
winged fossil
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Suspecting a “oops another arc suit” jumpscare for early January

vestal leaf
winged fossil
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It’s… too quiet.

crude glacier
tardy fiber
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Expected primals as well

tardy fiber
tardy fiber
vestal leaf
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So

crude glacier
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But it’s true, we only got 1 1% unit this month

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It’s usually 2

vestal leaf
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Lol

vestal leaf
tardy fiber
vestal leaf
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2.0 as it's next datamine

vestal leaf
trim heron
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there's now Thundurus next to Heatran

vestal leaf
fiery pollen
tardy fiber
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Oh right there's Thundurus also added this datamine

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Plenty faves, i need to prepare

fiery pollen
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How does it feel knowing there's 4 potential pulls lol

tardy fiber
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Good because i got 4 pities currently

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More i think because 150k

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Still not adding December gems

fiery pollen
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Noice

trim heron
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why does ||AS Leon|| leave on my birthday specifically

tardy fiber
winged fossil
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Possibly Hot take btw: ||Moltres is more tempting than Charizard if I was to grab a fire unit, ngl||

trim heron
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I honestly understand your take in a way

fiery pollen
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It's not really hot tbh

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Lukewarm I think

tardy fiber
crude glacier
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That’s what I’m choosing btw

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It’s not even a hot take

fiery pollen
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||ArcLeon|| certainly feels underwhelming by arc suit standards

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Which is already high lol

crude glacier
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did you see the b move?

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wtf is this

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Skip guys

vestal leaf
crude glacier
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It’s not worth it for 500 point pity

vestal leaf
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Smh

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Both are ass kits

crude glacier
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My problem with it is that it’s not original

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The kit is just ash but not fun

vestal leaf
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Ash is already super unfun

crude glacier
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And frankly, uninspired by anything else other than money

tardy fiber
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At least there's N EXR and DC Cheren for me next month. If not, my roster wont have much changes lol

vestal leaf
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They're the same picture.jpg

crude glacier
vestal leaf
winged fossil
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PMUninstall it doesn’t help that there’s a lot of enemies in this game with immunities to things.

fiery pollen
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Who the hell looks at Ash and thought of his sync

winged fossil
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Honestly though. Thank god it’s a mid month for me even with a fav being here. I’m broke from inactivity.

vestal leaf
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They're both biggus bonkus units with the same exact flaws

Which is canon because both characters canonically made me puke when they fought against each others in journeys

winged fossil
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I would not survive anni at this rate if I ||pulled lillie||

vestal leaf
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I like Leon but

  1. he didn't get Cynthia outfit treatment
  2. he got the arc lance kit treatment but worse
  3. it smells awfully like bait
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I'd rather wait for og to get 5/5

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Since og is still good enough to be usable and fun to run

fiery pollen
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I was hoping he'd be a tech worth looking into since I need more firepower but he just looks middle of the road

crude glacier
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It’s a bad sync though yeah

fiery pollen
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Good thing there's ||NC Kantrio rerun tho||

winged fossil
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I’m already happy with my mayziken, vilda, gloralt, and other units tbh

crude glacier
vestal leaf
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🤢

crude glacier
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get out

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Thought you were chill

vestal leaf
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Not my fault she literally looks like a professional mourner

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In her 70s

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That's literally how they dress over here

winged fossil
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Anyway summary for me: +1 “wait until a select” unit, +0 “must have” units. chrisComfy

tawny cedar
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Nc leaf boring tbh

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I like moltres but she boring

vestal leaf
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I'm definitely gonna look at my seasonal select choices and consider ||bugsy|| because||he's cute ||

tawny cedar
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Pls new kfc bird alt

livid rover
winged fossil
tawny cedar
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Thank God I can skip ||ncblue||

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He's already ||5/5WEEZing ||

fiery pollen
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Lmfao how

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What did you do

tawny cedar
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Bluemaxing

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I'm a blue madman

fiery pollen
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Fair enuf