Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)

[vestal leaf]

Also can ex my 20/20 Dana finally

[tardy fiber]

I guess i will need to wait a while before i can 3/5 raikou. I got enough for Morgan

[vestal leaf]

We get like 3 5* ones from BP ladder per year + gift one

[tardy fiber]

I need another 220 BP to get another rainbow ticket

Lemme do cs real quick

[worldly knot]

i have around 150k gems, is it wise to pull all 4 new units? I think i need back up gems to keep me interested in saving. if only the pity is at 400, rip 500

[tawny cedar]

with the gift im gonna have 3 this year

i might ditch either morgan or raikou so i can 3/5 one bp 5* pair

[dusky carbon]

realistically if you are pulling for meta yes, but no need to pull for ||SS Lear|| because of how anni lillie and arc steven are good enough without him

[worldly knot]

that's what I was thinking too, while leer is good and maybe better than marnie as now there is AS unit. seems wiser to save. thanks man

btw do we get arc lilie 1/5 or 5/5?

[dusky carbon]

since she is free im pretty sure we can get her to 5/5 ex for free

[worldly knot]

hopefully 5/5, would be a very decent steel with Steven

[tardy fiber]

Lillie will be so nice i am so gonna kick Gloria from my steel weak cs team due to her

Gloria need 5/5 to catchup with her steel rebuff. But as i only have her at 4/5. Lillie will be better

[lunar thistle]

||I'm thinking of pulling Arc Cynthia just because she's crazy good||

[chrome nest]

How good is the new Lillie?

[rare swan]

#poma-questions

[lunar thistle]

||So how should I avoid pulling||

[rare swan]

close the game and do something else

[lunar thistle]

||I mean like I was looking at the analysis of the characters, and I don't even want them, but they seem too good not to pull||

[grim plover]

I guess from now on i'll have to save one arc pity (45.6k gems) and treat pokefairs as spotlights

only pulling for arcs and MFs

[bleak falcon]

People have said the same about countless other Sync Pairs before and they’ve never been correct

[compact pasture]

Save for faves

[gilded nacelle]

no one pull for Arc ?

[strange trout]

You can

But I will be judging you

[vestal leaf]

No if not faves

We're gonna get more MFs and more arc suits

So no reason to throw 100+ thousands down the drain if this first batch doesn't interests you character wise

[vestal leaf]

By waiting for an actual alt of a fave

[vestal leaf]

This applied to every major meta character in the last 2/2.5 years, but I doubt many have all of them

Just remember that for each multi you spend for meta reasons, you're basically trading away 2 events/5 EBEs/10 UBs worth of gems

For something that clears only SOME of those stages better than others

It's not like these arc units will guarantee a win on every content

45k, just like 36k, is a lot for meta in a game where having invested free pairs or having every unit in the game barely amounts to 300-600 gems difference per month AT WORST

[vestal leaf]

Pokefairs solo banners are really iffy, I've always preferred to aim at dual or triple reruns as they're the best banners in the game

3-4.5% featured is just too good

I use the gems saved from polefair first runs for seasonals or SCs instead of arc pairs, because I prefer outfits over meta

[grim plover]

nah i dont go for dual banners becaus i would have to like both characters, otherwise is a lower rate for my fav

[vestal leaf]

Yeah that's the idea

[lunar thistle]

||Is there a justification against the argument that "you will regret it if you don't pull for these units because you may have a change of heart later and because these units are so overwhelmingly strong that they can clear any or at least most content easily"||

[winged fossil]

||Man the 100 ticket pulls went terribly for me this year no five stars lol||

[vestal leaf]

Yeah that argument is literally "spend potentially tens of times the amount of gems the unit will grant through stage clears for the unit itself"

[uneven pewter]

|| Nc blue comes to mind with this ||

[vestal leaf]

Even implying your roster is literal shit and skip EVERY EBE because you don't have these arc pairs, it's still not even remotely as bad as spending 45k for it lol

[uneven pewter]

Especially for ultra battles

[vestal leaf]

As most EBEs part 1 are easily clearable

And most part 2 are clearable by f2p/other limiteds

A unit is never worth a pity (or even just few multis) for meta because no unit will clear stages in an exclusive way enough to make up for that amount of resources

It takes YEARS for a unit to cover just 3 multis worth of gem investment

And most don't at all

[tawny cedar]

||arc lance pity ready||,2900/36600 gems for ||sslear pity||

[tawny cedar]

I think I have to pull ||Lear before lance||

[vestal leaf]

i think it's better to prioritize the units you like the most first

[tawny cedar]

No

I can kinda afford both

But I fall 6k short for ||lear||

But ||lance|| lasts into the first week of october

So I could cover the 6k there

[vestal leaf]

yeah, first week post datamine usually holds like 30% of gems of the month

[orchid lark]

2nd pity is very close.....
I need 2 pities so I can pity both submas if they rerun separately hehheehehehhehhhehehheeheheh

[tardy fiber]

Gem check, although the only gems that will get reduce this month will be paid gems as i want to grab 2 fair selects

[spring ginkgo]

Im so screwed for anni

[tardy fiber]

A little reduction of ||free gems is because i just go to pity for selene alt 2/5, only need 3 more multis anyway||

[spring ginkgo]

I dodmt expect the pity raise

[tardy fiber]

Well to make you feel better, no one expected it because we already got same pity amount for 5 years

[robust plaza]

Gem count. I hope my will pay off

[tardy fiber]

That is a nice amount of paid like a year of orb bundles

[lusty prism]

||How much paid gems is the paid select? I have the same amount as yours rn ||

[robust plaza]

I recall having 80k paid from bundles before mix. I had 9k paid before buying the 14k gems deal 3 times recently. It’s anni month so it is a time of celebration

5k for pf

[tardy fiber]

5k each , seasonal is only 3k though

Oh wait sc

Brycen man is sc i think

Sc cost 3k

[sinful lotus]

Gem check before anni

[tardy fiber]

Also lucy super fan is pretty based, not gonna lie

[maiden kayak]

wow

[maiden kayak]

truly a gem zenner

[jolly gale]

Thats really great work man! Thanks a lot!

But theres nothing about the referal Gems we should get, isnt it?.... 😬

[tardy fiber]

Because not everyone managed to refer peoples

[sand crown]

Plus given how they handled those 1000 gems (that they still owe me) from those campaigns where you had to jump through hoops…no guarantee you’ll get them

[tardy fiber]

So another kindred spirit, i also lost my 1k gems

Ours took months to processed

And still processing

[sand crown]

I still check my gift box and occasionally write them about it lol

They must be like “oh arceus not this guy again”

[elder topaz]

am i ready for the arc ||lance|| banner and the ||lance|| lodge banner 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

[versed flame]

if the gem situation doesn't pan out i guess you can eventually get ||Lance|| from the daily scout 😅

and also spoiler the names

[pine mason]

The urge to try and go for the ||NC Galar|| pairs right as anniversary is about to happen…

Man, it is tempting.

[dark oar]

spoiler that also... do you really really really really really want them / favourites?

[pine mason]

Not as much as some of the others, but it’s mainly cause they’re considered good. At the very least I don’t have to worry about ||NC Marnie|| since I already have them.

[crisp oracle]

A bit of advice for those on the brink of pulling tomorrow, today, or whenever; I leave you a quote.

If it costs you your peace, it is too expensive.

Don't stress too much about pulling. If you fall to temptation, it's a mistake. What's done is done. Rebound and don't make the mistake again.

[pine mason]

Yeah, that’s fair. I normally do a lot of pulls for battle themes anyways, ||but with the new pairs and whatnot coming up, I probably should be stockpiling gems to spend on that instead of splurging now||

Besides, without enough for a pity, there’s only be the 1 or 2% chance I get what I’d want anyways.

It just sucks the pairs I’d want are always pokefair locked, meaning they’re only available during relevant events. :<

[versed flame]

yeah i spent a while being tempted by ||SS Nemona|| but realised that was more of a response to the Anni units not living up to my expectations. and that i could save those gems for later like if they dump a metric ton of hisui pokefairs or something

and ||I'm also already rolling two banners this month|| so i better watch it

[pine mason]

It just always feels like a question mark as to how long of a time from a pair’s debut to their return to being scoutable, which makes the wait so much worse.

Master fairs usually feel like a year or so, but pokefairs are complete wild cards from my experience

[versed flame]

tell me about it ||waited for Lear for 18 months||

||technically that's the time between first rerun and second rerun but same concept||

||oh the time was even longer sorry but i started playing the game 18 months ago||

[pine mason]

Yeah. ||my current temptation is going for Arven for his amazing battle theme, but it’s such an meh support compared to what I have…||

[versed flame]

it's up to you what you prioritise spending your gems on, but if you don't have pity, wouldn't advise it

it's possible they'll just end up wasted

[pine mason]

Yeah, no pity is what’s holding me back. I’ve gotten lucky before, but I shouldn’t chance it.

[winged fossil]

Man even with my region ticket backlog I didn’t catch up on my regions

#poma-questions rather than here I think

[tranquil elbow]

Hmmm

[onyx tinsel]

So no 3k present

Or did I miss it

[winged fossil]

Yes but also no. It’s split into three days

[onyx tinsel]

That's not what pinned says

[winged fossil]

Unless there’s more later in the day

AFAIK the 3k was speculation for today?

[onyx tinsel]

Yea 3k 'present'

[rare swan]

bestie this is not the chat for it

[elder merlin]

ah sorry

just did another message since it was sort of an update to the old one

but got it
My apologies once again

[tardy fiber]

Done level 150 EX chatelaines woohoo, now gonna farm the free lillie

Oh let me change my nickname

[rare swan]

you're fine, we're just a little swamped atm

[orchid lark]

Now I'm getting SO worried on when submas is coming back😭😭

[dark oar]

need to ex evelyn because she's the only one i 20/20'd

[tardy fiber]

I didn't know that there's 10 paid gems for guaranteed 5* scout. Thankfully those can increase my PU income in this skip month

A welcome surprise

[tardy fiber]

Grab morgan, she got nice grid and base kit

Raikou need some investment

[dark oar]

i got morgan to 3/5

[tardy fiber]

Nice

[dark oar]

i did mespirit to 2/5 for utility

i need 3 months for the next super bp voucher

[rare swan]

hey Tlim, we may need to update this - we didn't get a 3000 present

( )

[lean mango]

[orchid lark]

NO WAY REALLY!?!?!?

[tardy fiber]

Woohoo done with the deity challenge without those ||fancy arc pairs|| gonna go back to grind lillie anni 2

[lusty prism]

||got my fave in a multi omg so happy i can save and be more future proof||

Time to grind lillie too

[wide yew]

||hehe multi||

[tardy fiber]

Glad that sticking to my faves pays off, now just gonna hope that i can clear the EBE

I guess i gonna EX Lillie the slow way because i want to EX some other pairs using normal 5* PUs

EXed BP lusamine because she got sync multiplier in her passives

[dark oar]

same o/

[tardy fiber]

Sad, but i still use sync orbs at her grid first at least. Because co-op orbs is not as valuable as PUs

[compact pasture]

Don't we get free Lillie PUs?

[tardy fiber]

Yep but i thought i want to like victrier which i EXed him day 1

[dark oar]

pretty sure they're daily drops into your present box ;o

[tardy fiber]

But turn out i need to EX some bp pairs

I like to EX units that have sync related stuff in their passive

Kinda a pity if they dont get EX

I also need to EX Wallace Milotic as i just realised he got sync related passive

[broken mulch]

22k gems remain to earn eh

||ragequit a real possibility haha||

[tardy fiber]

Its 22k gems net profit for me as its a skip month

Well -300 from UB

Also not sure if i can clear EBE so minus another 1200-1500

I think sslear doesn't have any EBE

Im pretty much done for the month, just gonna wait for fair selects release

To get 2 lodge guests

[worldly knot]

guys would you give 2 yellow candy to arc cynthia or pull more to get 3/5? get her in 3 multis but yellow candy seems expensive

[compact pasture]

She's alright at 1/5

[dark oar]

its not recommended to roll for duplicates, unless you're 1-2 multis away.
also, this is a saving channel, spoiler the sync pair

[sweet tide]

😮 i just found out we didnt get 3k presents…dena when i catch u…

[tardy fiber]

So the present is bp vouchers i guess

[compact pasture]

Will there be more gems next datamine?

[tardy fiber]

October's? For sure

[rare swan]

i mean it's likely not going to be more, as in a higher amount, but there will obviously be gems

[mossy hawk]

0 gem months incoming

[orchid lark]

Nah we get another 25k to 30k gems
imma predict that

[versed flame]

0 gems and 10 pairs

any month can have more gems if you pay up

[orchid lark]

I'm more predicting who's gonna rerun next month💀💀
All my predictions on who's gonna rerun is
, and

[mossy hawk]

October is historically a bare month with events

I would lower expectations

[orchid lark]

Welp
imma wait til oct datamine comes in
........man
4 weeks of waiting smh...

[outer mango]

Someone Can send me in dm how many gems Can We get each day

[versed flame]

we literally had datamine like. two days ago lol

[worldly knot]

ugh i need silver tyranitar rerun, but this arc suit sure drained my gems rip

[versed flame]

it's in the pins

[mossy hawk]

Ingo and Emmet are likely going into the daily scout pool

[orchid lark]

this datamine dissapointed me
I'm waiting for oct datamine now
I'm still waiting for my rerun

[versed flame]

hm how soon do you estimate that'll be?

up to what date are the ones now

[mossy hawk]

I expect all pfs who are going into the pool to rerun less often, so that is why Ingo isn't rerunning for the ground HSE

That is my guess

[orchid lark]

..........................
pls say sike rn
PLS SAY SIKE
I DONT WANNA HOPE

[versed flame]

hmm that would make sense

since they're devalued

[mossy hawk]

Also why the OG champs didn't rerun this month(also didn't get EXR lol)

[outer mango]

Pls

[versed flame]

they're never getting exr 💀

[tardy fiber]

October is a nice month for sc rerun, who knows you might be in luck if its tea party there's sc submas

[orchid lark]

Ingo not having exr meanwhile emmet has one💀💀
dena has a favorite submas twin guys its obvious

[mossy hawk]

At this point, yea

[upbeat lotus]

Joltik told you to check the pins earlier

[outer mango]

Where ?

[versed flame]

On mobile click through settings

[upbeat lotus]

With less than 0.01% chance

[orchid lark]

---

PLSSSSSSSSSSS
IF THEIR GONNA RERUN
OCT IS BEST MONTH
I WOULD GO COOCOOS

[upbeat lotus]

+pins

[jade lava]

See below on how to check channel pins!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/957144362624634931/1214245497754091570/Pin.mp4?ex=65f8693e&is=65e5f43e&hm=b9d9e7a1a428377ebb0ef122514359d2405dd3f4e0775c17f2146eb06ca90a67&

[versed flame]

oh neat we have a command for that

i guess it's a super common question 😅

[upbeat lotus]

Yes it is

[tardy fiber]

I hope the new daily scout pull does give a lot of things aside of the guaranteed unit. Its one of my sources of skip tickets

[orchid lark]

............God damn it
Man I hate dena-
still waiting for ingo exr
Imagine they gave him a shitty exr tho💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[mossy hawk]

It's confirmed to only be a pool of pairs

No items

Besides, idt you can run out of skip tickets

[versed flame]

you need skip tickets ?

[tardy fiber]

Nooo. so its like a single banner pull?

[versed flame]

yeah think so

[mossy hawk]

One thing I can see is the pearl mission becoming impossible to complete

[upbeat lotus]

Emmet got a mid one, so expect Ingo to get equal or even worse EXR unfortunately

[tardy fiber]

Well i could also use the drinks

[mossy hawk]

The daily items thing now are like nothing, I wouldn't worry

[upbeat lotus]

Where did you find that? I have never heard of it, curiously

[tardy fiber]

Tech exr ingo

[orchid lark]

AHHHHH HELLL NAHHHHHH
dena hates submas broo💀💀

[mossy hawk]

It was in dev letter

[outer mango]

I dont foud that

[upbeat lotus]

Strike is worse

[upbeat lotus]

Ah

@outer mango this is the pinned gem count

[orchid lark]

TECH EXR INGO???????
interesting

[outer mango]

Yes I Saw that but that's not the gems for each day

[orchid lark]

Honestly
If daily scout has submas
I would go nuts
You would see me spam in chat like crazy
until I see the percentage.......

[upbeat lotus]

Have you ever checked the second and third image below the message?

[versed flame]

i think the percentageb is hidden

[upbeat lotus]

Yeah

But expect it will be very low

[outer mango]

Ah I found it sorry

[orchid lark]

Yup
Steven is shown in the new daily scout page
So I'm expecting Cynthia and Lance there too💀💀

[sweet tide]

https://tenor.com/view/annoyed-disappointed-mad-upset-gif-26051038

[sweet tide]

Past 2 octobers have been 24k so maybe somewhere around 21-24k

[fiery pollen]

Strike EXR so they're twinning always

[upbeat lotus]

So true

At least one can hope for Tech EXR Scemmet and Strike EXR Scingo

[fiery pollen]

Strike EXR SC Ingo sounds like a pain to set up ngl

3 -6 defense and trap

[upbeat lotus]

Just slap Fall Roxanne on his comp

[fiery pollen]

Is this a Foxanne propaganda in our gem zen chat?!

[upbeat lotus]

🏃‍♂️ gotta run

[rare swan]

Gakon spreading Foxanne propaganda in the Zen chat.............

[upbeat lotus]

[tardy fiber]

Hope there's a fave on october, and hopefully its guzzlord

Luckily its a skip anni gain, so if they pull on me like naganadel from before. Im prepared for it

[stoic wagon]

wasn't there 6k total today?

*6.7k

[tardy fiber]

Nah the present is actually BP tickets

So 3.7k

[stoic wagon]

huh

that's very lame

[orchid lark]

AWWWWWWWWWW
twins being twins as always

[stoic wagon]

so this month is 22k gems?

[orchid lark]

If I see submas on the daily scout
ur gonna see me go wild on chat
In #poma-lounge and #main-plaza :3

[vestal leaf]

28k

We would've had 31k with present

25k + Sunday's 3k

[uneven pewter]

You have chosen wisely

Your king will reward your loyalty

[uneven pewter]

Now if only they gave apologems for the angry Japanese players

[maiden kayak]

wait im confused so

another 3k was from gift for 3 days starting today?(1k each)

time to save

[vestal leaf]

We already had these 3 1k logins in the count @maiden kayak today's gifts were the BP vouchers

[maiden kayak]

oh cos i thought it was 31k

but its just 28k

[vestal leaf]

Ye

400/600 gems lower than last year? While August was 10+k more this year

Hopefully they increase economy in around 6 months, that's how much they usually take to gauge economy changes

[maiden kayak]

ahhh i see

[leaden nebula]

What's pity for the arc fairs?

[uneven bone]

500

[leaden nebula]

No mean like how many gems for a pity?

[orchid lark]

45k i think

[leaden nebula]

👍

[orchid lark]

Possibly 45,500
its alot-
That's why im skipping this month
This anni broke me

[stoic wagon]

Sunday has 3k?

[orchid lark]

I gotta admit it
I came back playing the game during 4th anni and gotta admit
I enjoyed that anni MORE than this anni
Especially as a red fan
Seeing NC kantrio event story made me go crazy

[vestal leaf]

We already got them

[leaden nebula]

Okay so with the amt I currently have + the gems from this month I should have enough for like 3 full pities for all 3
Though I need an opinion if somehow get lucky and still have enough for a regular pity should I try and pull for Lear or Nemona's MF?
I want to get Lear as I don't really have a solid special steel attacker but at the same time I want to get Nemona so I could have another Paldea MF for extreme battles

[stoic wagon]

refer a pal?

[tardy fiber]

If question about units viability, probably go to #poma-questions

[vestal leaf]

Save

Getting lucky and going for extra units you didn't even wanted initially because of it is just a waste

[leaden nebula]

fair

[sturdy flower]

going to the end on whale banner once is more expensive than buying a mainline game

[topaz compass]

I think you guys are overestimating how big the pool of old limiteds they add as free daily pull is going to be

And also the cumulative % of limited would probably be 2% at best

[uneven pewter]

Is this live now?

[trim heron]

No

It will be live in September

[vernal glade]

This Sunday it comes.

But when the update arrives for it, I’ll check to see what’s in there.

[uneven pewter]

So

Where did the 3k get added

I am confused

[topaz compass]

There is no 3k, gem count is only 25k+

[uneven pewter]

Why does it say 28 k

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1014366916015554593/1278487713368117248/CH3CK79.png?ex=66d0fbf8&is=66cfaa78&hm=07daa0e261ed79e96b23b34b1b1e6cb2af30662a8a2dbd728294a47d89f1a224&

Somewhere the math is fudged

[dark oar]

Ppl thought that we were getting a 3k gem drop on the 28th..... But we didnt so yikes

[uneven pewter]

Oof

[tardy fiber]

Oh i just noticed that the free pair on poma day is Rosa. So we already in for 5/5 move level rotation

[broken mulch]

Didn’t we already max her out?

[feral vale]

I thought it was Calem according to #1012256199128915968 ?

Oh it’s Rosa, I guess Arch had an error earlier

[versed flame]

i only have 4/5, i think the 5th copy some of you have is from pre. Masters day copies?

[broken mulch]

Oh yeah that Rosa event lol

[paper root]

I almost missed this when claiming for today

[trim heron]

The refer-a-pal gems I see

[uncut comet]

I don't have this present 😢

[paper root]

ye its the referral

[long copper]

Y’all think 36.6 k gems

Is possible for me

[jolly gale]

I didnt got them, while i invited new people and should get 10k. I hope they send them out on different days... If not, im sad.

[lost bobcat]

I only got 4k

I did the same thing in each, but oh well better than nothing
Still happy it worked in CZ

[long copper]

I didn’t even get it

Even though I did

[lost bobcat]

Maybe they're still processing

[jolly gale]

Ill really hope so...

[vestal leaf]

Weirdly enough refer only gave me 5k even tho I referred more than 8 people

Oh well, 5k is still good

[versed flame]

welp i didn't get anything

i tried one referral

it didn't go through ig

[versed flame]

oh well still crossed 200k today with the login bonus!

[trim heron]

Mine didn't get through either

[vestal leaf]

I asked my friends and most of them got no or half gems too

Might be that they're pushing out a batch now

And another later?

[versed flame]

hopefully!

[crude glacier]

I didn’t receive

[vestal leaf]

How many refer did you do? @crude glacier

[crude glacier]

1

Went for the 3k gems

[vestal leaf]

Was it as soon as the thing started?

[jolly gale]

Maybe they roll out gems day for day. I think they have to check a lot of formulars.

[crude glacier]

Like 2 weeks later the event started

But I did use an alt (inactive) so maybe I won’t get it either way

[vestal leaf]

[strange trout]

I did a refer on the last day and I got the gems today

I mean I did the others before, like over a 2 week period ish

But the last was on the last day

[maiden kayak]

did yall manage to get refer a pal gems

[vestal leaf]

5k

I referred 9-10 people

[maiden kayak]

not 10k?>

so they did honour their rewards

[vestal leaf]

Yeah many people got partial (if referred more than 3-4) or no rewards (if referred only a couple)

[strange trout]

Did they all fill in the form correctly

[vestal leaf]

Yeah

[maiden kayak]

someone got 10k tho

[strange trout]

I got 10

[maiden kayak]

i think dena knows whether is it spoof accounts

[strange trout]

(they don't)

[maiden kayak]

oh

[maiden kayak]

10k?

[strange trout]

Ye

[maiden kayak]

nice

those who put in the effort will get the rewards

i think i know why the anni gives so little gems

probably to balance these gems out

[mossy hawk]

unless you are from a country where they wont give it to you

like me

[maiden kayak]

like?

[vestal leaf]

It's really funny to me that when I do 12-13 ALTs out of 20 for 300 gem each, they all get counted

But when I refer 8 people+1 alt, I get half

[maiden kayak]

did they do their shit correctly

[strange trout]

Oh it's possible those partial rewards are because the referee was in one of the ineligible countries?

[vestal leaf]

Yeah I filed them myself

[mossy hawk]

Yes, like Italy, Spain

[vestal leaf]

Oh FFS cmon

[maiden kayak]

oh do u have the whole list of illegible countries

[mossy hawk]

No, but I remember Italy, Spain, Balkans are ineligible

basically everywhere where the game is not officially available

[maiden kayak]

wait whot italy cannot have this game

thats so weird

[lost bobcat]

Aren't Spanish n Italian a game language? That's weird

[vestal leaf]

Yep.

[strange trout]

Maybe it's something to do with the country's laws regarding contests

Giveaways etc

[lost bobcat]

[mossy hawk]

https://discordapp.com/channels/583120259708616715/1012311116778586182/1278616924066021386

[maiden kayak]

wait jp too

LMAO

[mossy hawk]

they have their own stuff

[strange trout]

Like the game itself isn't banned, but because the contest is done through external means, there are some legal considerations

[crude glacier]

That confirms it, I’m from Brazil

It’s ineligible

[lost bobcat]

I gathered some infos just to clear this out for future purpose
So where you are, your game language, linking to Nintendo account or submitting twice doesn't affect the result
What's important is to change your ip to an allowed country while compiling the survey (if yours isn't allowed to partecipate)

[upbeat lotus]

Very helpful info, ty

[lost bobcat]

I have a random vpn server set and submitted in different days, so probably got some invalid counties, that's why I got a partial reward

This also mean we may partecipate to JP dedicated stuff

Or at least, they sure were able to partecipate in this one

[versed flame]

oh neat that's good information

[vestal leaf]

JP ones don't use survey monkey

[long copper]

Does Asia countries get the refer a pal rewards

I only referred with 1 person

[upbeat lotus]

#1012311116778586182 message if any of you registered with these countries' ID, your entry is illegal

Otherwise you put wrong information in the survey

[long copper]

I’m from Singapore 🙂

What info can possibly go wrong?

@upbeat lotus

[upbeat lotus]

Unmatched IDs or sth

Just contact customer support and they might explain what went wrong

[long copper]

Alr did

[lost bobcat]

Ye likely expected
Do we have any link or example for them or what they use?
The point is that if the third part sponsor is not collecting data from Dena nor Nintendo (which i doubt they would allow) it has to collect the submitting ip from either browser or another app (twitter?)
And just like this one was accessible to anyone via ip, even from JP players, theirs may be accessible to us

[versed flame]

hmm none of those countries apply to me but the person i got to fill out my survey, no idea where they're from

so that could be the reason

[strange trout]

Ironic that when people try to play by the rules they just get punished

[white bridge]

How many gems left this month?

[trim heron]

Has anyone who did 1 referral account receive 3K gems?

I haven’t seen a single screenshot of someone getting 3K

[white bridge]

Lowest I've seen is 4K

[trim heron]

Same

[white bridge]

Ofc I didn't do the thing cuz I don't have people to refer

And the first round I tried an alt and got nothing

[trim heron]

I have made an account for my friend

[white bridge]

Makes me wonder if they don't accept 1 only for some reason

[trim heron]

He did receive the gems from the referral, but that account still didn’t

[white bridge]

Huh maybe a slow rollout

Do both sides have to fill out the form or just one I forget

[trim heron]

No

[white bridge]

Cuz I was gonna say maybe someone got a support id wrong but one wouldn't get the gems if that was the case

[flat schooner]

From today until <t:1726812001:d> you can get up to 0 .
Last Updated: V2.43
For more information check /events and /banners!

[placid token]

[grim plover]

2025 anni gems leaked

[crisp wraith]

Tf am i doing wrong

[grim plover]

prob the bot hasn't been updated

[fallen path]

that's a lot of gems, ngl

[topaz compass]

I only did 1 referral so they better be processing more tomorrow. Gimme my 3k that could be difference. Between pity or not if I have to go 500 on them all

[winged fossil]

I didn’t bother doing the referral stuff personally. 🫠

[vernal glade]

I didn’t have friends, sooooo ya….

[tardy fiber]

I would've done it if I didn't have a bad experience before this, but DeNa is still processing my 1k gems from battle rally tweet

[tardy fiber]

20860 gems left although i probably got less due to UB. Im on a good track to 3 pities on October

[dark oar]

ohr ight.

The Sinnoh Villain Arc reruns' shops will dip soon, so exchange your currencies for items ;D

[winged fossil]

i tend to have bad experiences with a lot of third party things and i just feel like doing referral stuff on my own woulda felt awkward/annoying. i dont rly have friends thatd be interested in this kinda game anyway

so i just stick to ones that require the least effort if its through a third party

i should prob try to catch up on UBs for extra gems at some point. i honestly havent tried them in a while but my box is plenty strong for multiple of the ones i havent done yet

[tardy fiber]

I only did one for now thorton UB. Others will be my backup gems

[grim meadow]

100k

[spring ginkgo]

I messed up

I got excited because || i got arc steven first multi|| then i went and use 5 multies for ||arc cynthia||

I did not get ||arc cynthia||

And now i have forsaken the true lord and savior || SS Lear || and i dont enuf pity for him

[placid token]

so you have any gems remaining?

[spring ginkgo]

I have 30k rn

[tough oriole]

||There are more gems this month, don’t be too stressed ||

[sturdy hatch]

I forgot the daily shop

[fiery pollen]

If it makes you feel any better yesterday exchange was just level certificates

Not the biggest loss

Today is 30 tixs

[sturdy hatch]

Well, that's nice to hear

Yay free unit

[tardy fiber]

She's great, im loving it

[trim heron]

I got my 3K from the referral

[upbeat lotus]

I was too lazy to do the referral

[jagged escarp]

Is the referral still goin on?

I wasted 2 multis on cynthia cuz I thought I'm pulling for steven 🥲.

[trim heron]

it ended 1.5 months ago

[jagged escarp]

I see

[dark oar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/713777607094698055/1278961148854534267/image.png?ex=66d2b4e3&is=66d16363&hm=28f4393d4a623749760fa50b18caaeefc84f6460ab454e5e7d5c4055007179c7&

got the refer a pal gems

[jagged escarp]

Does battle villa doesnt reset anymore?

[dark oar]

it does not.

rally replaced it by being weekly gems

[uneven pewter]

The what?

[lusty prism]

just check and got mine as well!

[dark oar]

#game-announcements message thiss one.

[uneven pewter]

Whelp i missed the boat on this

Oh well

[dark oar]

it was a tough event since you had to refer new people

i only got 3k gems because

[uneven pewter]

Sadly everyone i tried to get into the game had already come and left

[dark oar]

the newbie i was helping in helper channels asked me and helped set it up

[uneven pewter]

I am trying to figure out how to maximize my stamina to get all the badges this event

Like holy crap do i hate this new system

I have never once missed a platinum badge

[dark oar]

i just do the dailies

[uneven pewter]

And i am so stressed i am going to miss it

[dark oar]

just burn your staamina on the main event

[uneven pewter]

-.-

[dark oar]

which is the arc suits one

[uneven pewter]

You realize i haven’t even finished the nemona one yet

Right

[dark oar]

lillie's event lasts ffor 30 days

oh yiikes.

[uneven pewter]

I haven’t even touched the oak event

[dark oar]

oak's event will last for a wwhile

just ffifnish the onoes tht's about to dip i guess

[uneven pewter]

Just feels like i have to go way deeper stamina wise than i ever did before

Just to get my platinum badge

[fiery pollen]

Biggest issue with new event system is really just the order of the rewards imo

Make the important general items + medals a priority

[vestal leaf]

The nemona one lasts longer

The arc suit event has the shittier multipliers and lasts less time

[fiery pollen]

And the event pair specific as something optional

Like what da hell am I supposed to do with the lance energy orbs rewards

[uneven pewter]

It screams to me they made it idiot proof when it didn’t need to be changed

All it screams to me is “unnecessary” how can we piss off our veterans more

[versed flame]

the arc suit event lasts for such a short time 😅

dumping all my stamina there

[lusty prism]

post-anni gem count

||Got lucky but had to pity cause of fave!||

[worldly knot]

damn 20k paid

[lusty prism]

thats a cummulative saving as well for like 6 months or so

[tardy fiber]

Wow ranked DC gives a lot of tickets, i love anni, there's so much free pairs that im out of sync orbs lol

I think i can grab the remaining 2 DC pairs on September, i got enough for silver and i probably can get another 300 within the month for wally

[crude glacier]

Guess not

It worked fine

[mossy hawk]

same, I got them today

[vestal leaf]

So they are shedding them uh

I got nothing today too sadly

Guess we pray and see

[grim plover]

I got it today

[dark oar]

looks like there's a delay for it huh

[versed flame]

i also got mine today! only did one referral for the 3000

[vestal leaf]

Here's hoping I get my other 5k eventually...

[wary scarab]

Hey, any of you have a problem with refer pal rally? I did 2 accounts and i supposed to get 4k gems right? But i only get 3k gems 🤔
And i checked my 2 friends account they get 3k gems each

[vestal leaf]

As you can read from messages before yours, they're rolling them out gradually

[orchid lark]

What are these refer a pal yall talking about??

[wary scarab]

You mean they do not send all at once?

[vestal leaf]

Yea

[vestal leaf]

In June, we had a community thing where you'd make new accounts login and do some stuff
If the new account was eligible, you'd file a form and depending on how many new accounts an old account "recommended" the more gems the older account would get later on

It's the second time we get it, the first was last winter, and required 20 accounts for 6k gems

[crude glacier]

This time it’s 8 accounts 10k gems

And the first one was 3k

[vestal leaf]

This one was 10k for 8 accounts

[crude glacier]

That’s why so many did it

[vestal leaf]

So yeah, I guess the amount of requests are why they're rolling them out slowly

[wary scarab]

Ahh, tks for the explanation, i thought i do not get 1k more gems
Sad i only can make 2 more accounts 😅

[vestal leaf]

I mean there's no full guarantee

[orchid lark]

So ur telling me to make a new account to do this??
Yall are making me wanna do this
Do i need a second device to make a new account?
I don't wanna lose my old one but i DO wanna make an alt account tho

[vestal leaf]

The refer a pal period ended more than a month ago

The form is now closed

So you'll have to wait until next time

[orchid lark]

Oop-
But i still wanna make a second account for fun so ehem
yeah

[strange trout]

Unless you like uninstalling and reinstalling the game each time you want to swap accounts, you'll want a second device

[vestal leaf]

Don't recommend it

It's a really big waste of time

Or time investment at the least

[orchid lark]

Oop--

[strange trout]

I mean you can just make a throwaway and just log in for free gems and throw it at random stuff

And see firsthand the dangers of not saving

[vestal leaf]

Sure, but it's much slower

By just logging in, you get like

8-9k per month tops

[strange trout]

I mean it's not like you'd care about the progression of the alt

Just dump for consequence free gamba

If you run out and really wanna gamba more delete and reroll

Infinite gems

If you mean playing an alt even semi seriously then yeah I wouldn't recommend it either

[vestal leaf]

Yeah but logging every day for just 3 multis per month is kinda shit

[sharp dust]

Which is the best new arc unit to pull for? I wanna be smart about my gems

[vestal leaf]

To be honest

If you're low on gems I'd kinda skip them all

Unless one of them is a big fave

Meta wise, ||Steven|| is probably a safer investment ||because he's a support||

But in general I'd advise against asking who to pull here, but rather how to avoid pulling

[tardy fiber]

I skip em all because all of them are not faves

Its the Pikachu anni situation again for me, i rather play with electric legendary fave thats slightly weaker than a non fave electric rat that deals 99,999 damage

[lusty prism]

I think 3rd anni is when we got Lodge, i rmb getting excited over lodge over the anni pair

well

||beside Cynthia ||

[tardy fiber]

I kinda want ||to do fair select for lodge lance, my other dragon supports are drake and ssbrendan, so lodge lance will be great ||

[lusty prism]

||Fair select on regular lance? I think you can get him daily when the daily scouts update by next 2 resets||

[tardy fiber]

||its better for me to spend for guaranteed, than a miniscule chance of getting him via daily scout, might take years||

[lusty prism]

Oof, i didnt see the %

Besides, ss brendan is enough already. He is my go to support dragon too

[tardy fiber]

Well there's probably content that needs more than 1 dragon support like dragon boosts rally.

I will also do ||fair select for iono, gonna try to catchup on my missing lodge guests as its great to have 2 units with a price of one||

[lusty prism]

||how much is a fair select again? Think i'll grab iono as well||

[tardy fiber]

5k

[crude glacier]

remember all of this is bait

the real units come later this month / later this year

[tardy fiber]

Select scout is good though

[crude glacier]

yeah that’s the only non gacha experience

[tardy fiber]

I gonna skip all banners this anni except fair select scouts

[vestal leaf]

I'm definitely waiting for datamine

[tardy fiber]

Same 🤝

Hope its early

[vestal leaf]

99% 27th

[fiery pollen]

Friday datamine

[maiden kayak]

i gave up on that event LOL

[tardy fiber]

Its a nice pair

[versed flame]

I'll work on the oak event later 😅 had a few days where i could dump stamina on it earlier since i minmaxed my dailies usage on the other events

[elder topaz]

almost at 71k gems, ||everyone already knows who im spending them on though ||

[vestal leaf]

Priority in stamina investment should be

1. arc event
2. nemona event if still behind with dailies already counted
3. oak event

[topaz compass]

I like your mentality to treat the referrals as an event

[topaz compass]

Shouldn't people using all stamina each day only need solgaleo +/or arc event?

[uneven pewter]

Did you forget the mile of reruns we had prior to anni

Especially if you were cleaning the shops of the good items

[topaz compass]

I promise I don't miss any good rewards

And I just have some Lillie and arc event left

[sturdy hatch]

Arc is very painful, all my stamina goes there

[sturdy flower]

thankfully they wont launch another new event during it

the Lillie one is a bait, dont rush it

main character has been very silent in this arc so far

the "champion" of Pasio

the only upside of their laziness is that they are likely to release Blue & Blastoise again and not as a tank

and Green is still possible with another Blastoise

so i can have a triple Blastoise team with no Leaf or Main Character

[winged fossil]

Personally I ||just dumped stamina on the 10 stamina stages fifty times|| for the rerun events mostly cause I just wanted the candycoins and gems

Cause I hadn’t touched most of the active events the night before anni lol

Was like “just gimme the gems I was gonna miss this otherwise”

I also really hate the new event point system cause now I can’t just dip into an event for the candy and medals and such

[vestal leaf]

Solgaleo event is free

Just do dailies on it

Not worth to do the 20 stamina stages

[topaz compass]

Yeah I have been doing just the daily one while focusing on arc 10k

[lusty prism]

This reminds me when the game first got released. there were no such things as stamina back then.

the first time stamina was implemented people were mad

[topaz compass]

If you log in 2 times per day to not waste stamina, we have always had 100% enough stamina for rewards that matter. But yes locking the best rewards behind the crappy ones with his meter to fill up is the worst yet

[winged fossil]

These damn meters is part of why I gave up on emptying rerun shops lately

Cause I legit just don’t have the stamina to spare

When they dump event after event after event on us

[vestal leaf]

I mean I'm currently only clearing arc one

Everything else is done

2 dailies from nemona 10k

And oak is 5/5 full sync orbed

[sturdy flower]

if they dump 3 arc suits every 2 months with just the base mons and just the glow added on sync animation

it will be hilarious

[paper root]

it honestly kinda feels like they might do an arc suit per chapter

2 MFs + 1 AF

🗿

[vestal leaf]

I think we won't likely get a lance & Steven situation again, at worst a Cynthia one

Arc suits aren't forced to be on repeat units after all

[sturdy flower]

Lear and Unbound Hoopa would be the best Arc suit possible

I'd say give MC an Arceus and then also make Rei show up with one

[subtle pasture]

Can’t wait for the super arceus banners to drop that require 600 to pity

[vestal leaf]

I mean it's canon that the Pokémon "Arceus" is just a puppet of many the "Arceus" entity gives to thr trainers it approves of

[sturdy flower]

the in universe talk of how they don't feel stronger killed me

[vestal leaf]

I mean

They got stronger and got a blessing

But no Arceus giving congratulations

So it's either just a step or there's something more

[sturdy flower]

"this Volo fella is persistent, I'm going to mess with him this time around"

[topaz compass]

Lmao that was hilarious. I was like, wait are they implying this is super saiyan and already foreshadowing super saiyan 2?

[violet nebula]

Probably

[tardy fiber]

Make 2 arceus, one give arc suits to good guys and another one gives it to villains it fits the lore, they are all copies of the original arceus anyway

Also does make this arceus cup become like a war between them

[narrow anvil]

someone have how much coins we can have in the month?

[bleak falcon]

#1012256199128915968

[narrow anvil]

thanks! I didn't remember where that was.

wow 11 sprint coins

nice

[tardy fiber]

This anni month is good for me :

• free faves
• i will be able to complete 3/5 all of my faves as there's many move coins
• claim all DC pairs because of double ranked rewards
• add 2 new lodge guests through fair selects

[narrow anvil]

better if cursed by giratina?

[tardy fiber]

Not sure if Giratina got that power though as their power ups is based on those ultimate sync stones thats given by arceus, so another evil arceus probably fits more

[narrow anvil]

base giratina not, but origin giratina...

[bleak falcon]

I’d like to keep the rehashing of trainer/pokemon combos to a minimum, so no thanks on evil Arc Suits or whatever

We’re already very likely to end up with 2 more Charizards because Red & Leon

[tardy fiber]

Well they gonna make 18 arc suits probably, can make it 9 good 9 evil instead of 18 good

So it will be VA 2.0 with champions against villains

[bleak falcon]

Eh, that’s kinda just as bad (if not worse), because then they’re just doing the same story beats again

[lilac crescent]

I mean like hey. Character development.

[tardy fiber]

Yep i rather see both sides got character development than the good guys taking it all

Like it will be Illogical for the villain guys to do evil things after this if they keep facing 18 good guys with arc suits

Gio: time to do evil deed again.
Get hit by 18 divine moves

[bleak falcon]

I feel like barring Ghetsis & Giovanni the villains have either partially reformed or have at least made a truce to not cause problems while on Pasio

At this point

[tardy fiber]

So there's a good chance for them to also get the blessing

As they are reformed

[bleak falcon]

If that’s the case it’d be just regular Arceus then

No need to come up with an evil variant

[tardy fiber]

I do hope for Giovanni and Ghetsis to get some power up though

No plot to cook if there's no villains

Like i doubt they can drag every day is a nice sunshine day in pasio for years

[lilac crescent]

True.

[versed flame]

funniest option for "arc suit" volo is not Arceus or Giratina but one of his OG mons

like togekiss or lucario or another garchomp

[tardy fiber]

It probably be togepi if its their base pair

Arceus is pretty desperate if it wants to bless togepi

[lilac crescent]

Hey. It'd be better if it's not another Charizard or Leon.

[broken mulch]

Believe in arc suit Ash and Pikachu

[narrow anvil]

its imposible, anyone knows about electric arc suit will be joltik

[wide yew]

Nah nah they'll abandon the plot and put in cipher and shadow pokemon instead

[lilac crescent]

Nah. Scottie/Bettie better.

[tardy fiber]

I will totally pull shadow mewtwo from pokken and shadow lugia from XD

[tranquil elbow]

With this amount of paid gems, i can do 2 Costume Selects and 2 Pokefair Selects

[broken mulch]

18,560 gems left to earn this month eh… well good news is I’ll hit most pity by end of October and all pity by November so yay

[tardy fiber]

Nice, i gonna do 2 fair selects. I would buy more if there's a variety select but DeNa doesn't release it

Maybe i should do sc select for Brycen-man

[tranquil elbow]

If i want to have SS Lear while i pitied my 429/500 Arc Cynthia and pity Arc Steven, then i HAVE to get him in 7 multi or less

[versed flame]

spoiler current banners but yeah oof

[tardy fiber]

After i think again, maybe i will skip SC select, so i will have paid gems for new year select without buying more paid gems

[jolly gale]

Anyone got referal gems today?

[trim heron]

Got mine yesterday

[topaz compass]

Is it just me or are seasonals always way worse than Special Costume? Wonder why

Like only the tech seasonal appeals to me and I might still skip

[topaz compass]

I was under the impression everybody got in the last 2 days

So anybody still waiting, not looking good

[tranquil elbow]

That's more of a preferences to me

[broken mulch]

Seasonals include Halloween right?

Matter of preference yeah

[trim heron]

yes and probably

[vestal leaf]

They're much better

Wdym

SC outfits are mid in most cases

[topaz compass]

Well kit wise there are way more SC I like for selects than seasonals

Maybe I just own more seasonals already?

[fringe ember]

How much would it cost to reach 500 pity from 0 gems in GBP?

[broken mulch]

GBP?

500 scout points needs 45,600 gems, or 45,500 with paid gems with 2 100 gems daily

[violet nebula]

Currency

[violet nebula]

Better off asking in questions as this is about saving, not spending

[fringe ember]

ahh

[broken mulch]

Oh Great Britain Poundsterling right right

[tardy fiber]

Probably because Special Costume is relatively new and Seasonals already an old concept since holiday erika days so the amount of bad performance seasonal pairs are way more than special costume pairs thus you got alluded to of seasonals being way worse due to their larger sample size.

Many new seasonals perform up to par to sc units in a meta standpoint

[worldly knot]

Guess my gems is drained ||after pity lance and still want to pull cheren irida and silver not to mention there will be another 3 arc unit in the future, i wonder if my gem can handle it rip|| 😭

[winged fossil]

If I am not mistaken should be spoilered bc pull/new unit talk in a saving channel?

[worldly knot]

ah sorry i will edit it

[rare swan]

please spoiler it

this is meant to be the channel where people can avoid temptation

[worthy willow]

Does anybody know how long the select banners, for PF ones as well as the special costume ones, are going to last?

I have 13k paid gems rn and today I need to start using the regular EX gems bundle again. I've purchased all of the $1 gem deals already but haven't purchased the a little higher cost deal which gives us 3000 gems.

With that said what is the best way to go about if I plan to have enough to pull on all 5 select banners this month?

[upbeat lotus]

#1012256199128915968 included an end date for each select, please go check it out

[worthy willow]

Thanks!

...wow basically only 16 days :/

[upbeat lotus]

5 banners cost you total 21k paid gems total, so you should plan your paid gems usage thoroughly

[tardy fiber]

I gonna limit myself to only 2 fair selects i guess, gonna use my remaining paid gems for ny select in case there's a new pokefair lodge guest that i dont have between oct-jan

[livid rover]

Is there any way to beat the Blessed by a Deity stage or do I just miss out on 500 gems they shouldn't've locked the 300 behind all missions

[broken mulch]

It’s a rather strong fight but a lot of team compositions can do it

[rare swan]

I'd try asking in #1009557516369281075

there should be F2P clears available

[tawny cedar]

||So I got lance in 6k,so I have 36k left which means i can afford Lear now itself||

||The dilemna is whether after lear I keep pulling for lance to get more dupes,he really wants them and Omni candies take so long to grind I think it might be necessary||

[sturdy hatch]

Getting dupes is giving up on another unit, up to you

[tawny cedar]

I can't afford another arc suits anyways unless i abandon lear

[sturdy hatch]

You don't have to aford someone now, your gems contribute to future pulls

[tawny cedar]

Hmm

I think I'll have to ||pull for another lance dupe||

I get an Omni in 2 months

[sturdy hatch]

Fine, but don't discuss it here

[tawny cedar]

Than another in like 7

[outer mango]

What is that

Thanks to this discord I managed to get all master fair from 5th anniversary

[dark oar]

those seem to be refer a pal. you can refer newbies back in july(iirc)

the first one was 3k gem, and succeeding entries are 1000 gems each until a maximum of 10,000 gems

[outer mango]

What is a pal

[dark oar]

a pal, a new friend, or sorts.

[outer mango]

If I make Friends on the game I get gems ?

[dark oar]

they need to create a new account during that time.

thing is, the campaaign is oveer

[sturdy hatch]

That's some impressive saving, but please don't post the screenshots here

[outer mango]

Ok sorry

[dark oar]

we'll probably have another one of them next year. likely.

[sturdy hatch]

no problem, well done on the saving for anni

[dark oar]

they actually check the entries it seems so... fradulent entires dont get the gems .-.;

[outer mango]

But I am good on my account why must I create a New account

[outer mango]

I have 5800 f2p gems left

[sturdy hatch]

Time to save again

[dark oar]

you actually need a veteran accountn (someone who haas been plying for more than 2+ months) your account....

and a newbie account who has just entered the game, for like a week, and cleared chapter 2 or chapter 3 iirc.

both players need to submit entries of their User ID + Ingame Name of each other.

[outer mango]

I know I have anni lance and dragonite but I want the old one to get his pair from lodge

[dark oar]

spoiler the name ;o

[sturdy hatch]

The old one has the OG pity amount

[outer mango]

I know

And this Is a 2% pair

[tawny cedar]

17225 gems rn,4390 left to claim and 18160 gems left this month

Should be enough for ||sslear|| right?

[dark oar]

39k. so its possible.

[trim heron]

slightly more than enough even

[dark oar]

problem is... ||ss lear dips out|| before the month ends right?

[tawny cedar]

I thought he left on the 4th of October?

[dark oar]

hrm. guess you've got it then

[tawny cedar]

Nvm 1st oct

Uhhh

Lemme do calcs real quick

I'll hit pity on master's day

He IS 36k right?

[dark oar]

yep.

[mossy hawk]

Yes, normal 400 pity

[dark oar]

MF is stsill 36.6k pity. thank god.

[tawny cedar]

Nice

[languid halo]

can i hit pity before his banner is over

steven was a rough one..😔

[mossy hawk]

yes

[worldly knot]

you can, steven stays more than a month

[upbeat lotus]

Please spoiler concurrent banners next times. This thread is for encouraging people to save and showing those banners may lead to temptation rising

[maiden kayak]

oh please dont post this here

please read the rules

[winged fossil]

Gonna ask this in the most generalized terms possible…

Let’s say there’s a select that has two or three favs you missed but you can only get one. What would you do then?

[lost bobcat]

If you like them equally, then you can prioritize by needs first
If it covers a niche or who's better use for you
Then investment, if you don't have candies/cake for them, to actually make them shine

Btw once you're in the select menu it's easy to realize and have a change of heart bcs you like something that little bit more
Happened for me at least
~~ screw the plan ~~

[jagged escarp]

I'm 330/500 pity on steven and got him. Should I continue to pity? altho the only gems I can get are from the remaining gems this month.

[timber wren]

hes pretty phenomenal at base, i would recommend saving for your next unit

[jagged escarp]

alright, thanks

And the story and cs gem packs are those worth it? It's pretty expensive in my country.

[timber wren]

theyre some of the highest value gem packs in the game but spend responsibly

we have #1010215980175208468 too to help determine value based on your own currency but i havent updated it in a bit so the info may not be totally up to date

[sturdy hatch]

Remember to get the daily event shop

[tardy fiber]

Depends on the type of faves, if its a pokefair and unlock lodge guest, i will grab that first as you essentially get 2 pairs with a price of one. If its seasonal, i will grab which one of the pairs that could help my roster more as the seasonal rerun banner is kinda bloated and i wont pull them unless from select.

[zealous geyser]

after getting some stage clears, i just realized i got past 45.6k!

[grim plover]

do the coop battle change every day? i saw it gives yellow candy coins but i got none

[trim heron]

Yes

[upbeat lotus]

One more thing to look out for everyday besides the exchange shop

[grim plover]

ok

[tardy fiber]

Is the reward random? i got 3 move coins

I need 1 more support coin||to 3/5 Raikou ||

[grim plover]

no, i got this too

[tardy fiber]

Nice, i also dont mind strike coins, need another 4 ||to 3/5 SeleneAlt ||

[fiery pollen]

Oh the daily reward is random?

[tardy fiber]

Not sure, i forgot what coin i get

I knew one of it is support

[fiery pollen]

I think I got 3? Not sure what's the last one but I do remember seeing a striker and support coin

[versed flame]

it's not random i don't think

it's on the pastebin ?

[tardy fiber]

So its yellow, red and blue coins today?

[versed flame]

general move candy coin is on the last day

[tardy fiber]

Oh no, next reset are cake coins instead of move coins

[long copper]

1k Tomorrow

Road to 100k

Anyone thinks it’s impossible

@dark oar

[dark oar]

i'm sure you can. ;o

[long copper]

Sigh

[crude glacier]

Spoiler banners

[native jetty]

Mkay

If I'm going to do daily discounts until the banner is gone, should I do a x11 or multiple x1?

[crude glacier]

I think only doing dailies for a month will be enough

29*100=2900 whilst an 11x would be 3k

And you get more units

[native jetty]

Well 1800 are paid, so I could prob just try to get 2950 more and pull an 11, right?

[crude glacier]

You’d be wasting scout points doing so

The best way to optimize is doing dailies

[native jetty]

Hmm ok

[feral vale]

I don’t think this is the right channel to ask that question btw

[crude glacier]

I mean it’s called resource saving support

I know it’s a stretch but I can understand why he thought this channel was for this

[native jetty]

Oh lol

Whoopsies

[feral vale]

Just read the rules of the channel first, you’ll see what I mean ^^;

[topaz compass]

I think it should be allowed, asking how to be most efficient to save resource

[lilac crescent]

so... can we talk about the Daily Scout now having sync pairss?

[topaz compass]

Yes they like to give low chance of great things so we hate each other and ourselves. Somehow that results in more money for them

[lilac crescent]

I guess. I would call this genuineness in it's least form.

[dark oar]

the rate is kinda abyssmal, but if you get lucky great! if not, not much loss since its free.

[lilac crescent]

Abyssmal?

[dark oar]

if you want a specific sync pair i mean.

[lilac crescent]

That's just selects and pitites. It's a pity there's no pity in the Daily Scout.

[vapid ravine]

How much will the Special Costume select cost? 5k or 3k?

[upbeat lotus]

3k

[vapid ravine]

Bless 👍 thanks 🙏

[crude glacier]

We kinda miss out on those 4 and 5 star powerups as well as sync orbs

If the rates were more normal than I wouldn’t mind but the rates are supposedly so bad I’m still having a hard time believing in them

[sturdy hatch]

Yeah, the and income is down

[tardy fiber]

True, why cannot they make it 10 stuffs like before with 1 of em is a guaranteed to be a sync pair

So 1 pair 9 items

[lusty prism]

I legit thought the daily scout is 10x

[vestal leaf]

The rate is so shit it barely matters

Just enjoy the fact we get more 3-4* per year now over useless resources ig

And if you get lucky, it's definitely a luck shot, but it's not like people haven't been 1/400 MFs already

[lilac crescent]

True.

[wide yew]

It gets better after the 4000th big pearl trust

[vestal leaf]

The sync orbs income from daily was ridiculously low

[vestal leaf]

Would you have preferred better rates so people can get even more lucky and ruin the economy even more?

If MFs were cumulative 1% there would be basically no reason to scout anything but arc fairs

[lilac crescent]

Aren't they already?

[vestal leaf]

They're 0.02% iirc

[lilac crescent]

Damn.

[vestal leaf]

Meanwhile 5% limiteds are 0.98%

[mossy hawk]

That's the cumulative chance for limiteds I think

Getting a specific mf is same chance as pulling any seasonal

[vestal leaf]

The total chance of limiteds is 1% iirc yea

[mossy hawk]

No

[vestal leaf]

Or wait was it 0.1%

[mossy hawk]

1% is cumulative for 5 stars

[lilac crescent]

Double check.

[vestal leaf]

Oh yeah

So it's 0.002 and 0.098 for mf and limiteds + 0.9% of gen pools?

[lilac crescent]

Yep.

[mossy hawk]

It's very simple, 0.02% for limiteds and 0.98% for spotlights

Amounting to a 1% 5 star rate

[vestal leaf]

Yeah

Again, I was expecting something like that

There was no way we were getting 360 shots at 1-2% odds for limiteds for free

[lilac crescent]

The fact that there is no pity too...

Pokémon Masters is starting to turn into an actual gacha game.

[vestal leaf]

Why would there be pity

In a free scout

That's like complaining the 10 pokefair multis have no pity

[lost bobcat]

I had a decent income

Sure for new players is something huge

IF you win the lottery

[vestal leaf]

Meanwhile I got 1 single in the last year from daily

[lost bobcat]

But the fact that Dena ~~ asked ~~ demanded absol to delete the ratios means they're kinda ashamed of whatever that is

[lilac crescent]

Really?

That's hilarious.

[lost bobcat]

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[split thicket]

Hey y'all.

Regarding paid gems...
Are they worth doing dailies on? I'm planning on buying a pack for the Mix Scout and luck's not exactly on my side with the Arc Suit units.

The 24 dollar for 10K gems, to be exact.

[feral vale]

I don’t think this is the right channel to ask that particular question...but I just recommend checking #1010215980175208468 for the best deal with real money in the meantime

You can ask in #poma-questions for anything further.

[feral vale]

Hi @sweet tide! Hope you don’t mind the ping, but I needed to ask a question on behalf of some of us at the Helper Team:
Do you keep your gem counts that you had put here in the past archived? We just wanted to know if you had compiled something or if we should take initiative by looking at your previous messages.

[split thicket]

Okay, thanks Green!

[vestal leaf]

In a general way saving paids for selects is heavily recommended over dumping in dailies if you're a mid/low spender

[sand crown]

Did they now? I’d be embarrassed if I were them

Ratios getting widely mocked

[uneven pewter]

They did?

[uneven pewter]

This channel has never cash shamed

It’s a resource and it’s a perfectly valid question here

[uneven pewter]

So here is the reality of your inquiry

30 days of daily pulling is 3000 paid gems. That is one x11 selector and 2/3rds of a 5000 selector. Selectors are guaranteed units for pokefairs with free gem value of 36600 gems

Dena is being more consistent and more liberal with their selectors lately so anything and anyone you miss pokefair wise is available to select if you chose to pass on their banner

Dailies are a gamble end period stop. You either win big or lose hard as it has a horrible roi

Ultimately if you’re a guppy spender selectors are a better value but if you’re a dolphin or higher do as you wish

[tardy fiber]

I will be more inclined to do a daily if those 100 paid gems daily discount gives 3 pity points instead of 1 pity point. It will be more helpful in case we still need to pity the pair on the last day

So for now, i just use daily to fill 399/400 pity points

[uneven pewter]

Sadly that’s never going to happen

It would make arcfairs and pokefairs too easy to pity

300 points for 3000 paid? Id do it every time

It’s cheaper than a booster pack box for a tcg

[tardy fiber]

Yeap thats why i do not do dailies anymore, well i tested it myself during annilillie anni and do 4 dailies for annilillie, anniN, annisteven and ssleon everyday and i ended up getting trash, since then i never do daily again outside of Mix banner or filling 400 pity points

[uneven pewter]

$25 monthly coin daily gives 3000 up front 9000 drip fed

[uneven pewter]

I know your pain man

I really do

I have had big wins on dailies and horrible losses

[tardy fiber]

Sometimes we need a harsh lesson to actually remember

[uneven pewter]

I learned it with iono

Just cause she is a fave doesn’t mean she’s worth it

[tardy fiber]

Like i tested seasonal step up before this because my paid gems are nearing the 80k paid limit. Got smliza on the last step and the paid gems lost was harsh

[uneven pewter]

I did the full steps on the rocket banner

I very well went in knowing i was risking everything

And that banner was dog shit

[tardy fiber]

Since then, i never do seasonal step up again, better that i just grab via select later

[uneven pewter]

Same

Now they have the audacity to do a variety selection

And i was kicking myself

I spent 28k paid on that when i could have spent 3k paid over time

[tardy fiber]

At least halfway you get a guaranteed admin ticket, seasonal give 50% chance ticket and i got clemont on smliza banner

[uneven pewter]

It didn’t help i got an archer dupe

1/5 chance and i landed him on the random and the free random ticket

Pure dumb luck i got gio aria and proton before the last step

[patent haven]

Whats better the 10k paid gem bundle for 24 -25 bucks or the cs bundle thats 28 for 18,000 paid gems

[uneven pewter]

And i selected petrel

[tardy fiber]

At least the seasonal rerun step up only costs 10k paid now, better than their first release that costs like 25k

[uneven pewter]

Both

But the difference is

One is time limited

[tardy fiber]

Well better to get seasonal select which only cost 3k

[uneven pewter]

One isnt

Get the time limited

Cs bundle is a one time deal

Absolutely amazing payout

But do not squander them

[tardy fiber]

Yep the arc fair gem deal are wayyyy better than normal offers, it got same value like co-op orb 20 days bundle

[uneven pewter]

It’s very easy to piss away paid gems

[patent haven]

yeahh ive been a victim to that before

[uneven pewter]

I saved my bundles for new years

I suspect with new years

[patent haven]

ill just spend it on the select banners then

[uneven pewter]

They will drop the first masters fair selector

[tardy fiber]

Master fair gem offers are slightly worse thus better that i grab orb bundles than getting it

[uneven pewter]

With arc fairs out

You watch

That will be the big thing for new years

[tardy fiber]

I will grab if it's 10k, if more i just gonna skip

[uneven pewter]

I might just hold off going for lear

But i love my boy too much to not try

[tardy fiber]

They probably introduce 5/5 MF grids before selling it they already took first steps via arc pair grids

[patent haven]

Were so cooked

[uneven pewter]

The house always wins

I never thought they would power creep nc blue and ash

I was wrong

Very

Wrong

[tardy fiber]

I expected Ash, he is a collab, his life support will end when the event ends. Well the good thing that comes out from him is the next collab character will at least have an EXR at release

[uneven pewter]

I mean

Even without exr he still hits like a bus

But no sense bringing that up in zen

But it does mean that when a collab drops the precedence is here

Either get the pair then or not at all

[tardy fiber]

Yep

Not like they will rerun

Man it will be pretty stings if the next collab uses custom move candy well at least there's omni candy, still stings nonetheless

[uneven pewter]

You know it will happen

Even though we know that the next arc fairs || Dark Bug Fire are essentially telegraphed for Alder Iris and Leon ||