#Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)
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Well "another" yeah, that makes 2 of them
reminder to look at pins when chatting here
esp in relation to new pairs
Guys we've told you a few times now, please don't discuss the new units in this thread
nice
yea
congrats on the 500k though, I'll be hitting around 260kish
i cant believe i can finally have a break skip month
if you're going to skip a month this is the one to do it (along with August, for obvs reasons)
At the very least, skipping means you also play for all the freebies š
we are getting some good free stuff this month 
the spotlight for this datamine is actually free riley lol
looks like we're getting a bunch of freebies, enough to tide you into Anni 4.5
which is good
Free Riley is Free! with Dynamax function ā¤ļø
is it 4*?
I also can't believe Dena is gunning for me right now,
Yeah! 4 free units and 100 scouts (with pokefairs?) Is def a good deal
Just hope they won't balance that on the monthly gem
Consider your options. Save and Save :>
no BV will make the gem count interesting
at least i be hitting a pity over 400k soon
so my 400k gem count will be safe for the month
not when a fav is on the line
just need to wait for shelly in half anni variety scout
was going to be open to skipping mf when its not nc
most likely will happen
oh if you have a fave this month, and you can pity. Up to you š
yeah Gladion is not one of them
i have a plan
i been doing the 2 month skip cycle
Iām just crossing my fingers for only one fav for anni now. Cause I donāt trust recent gemcounts to give +62k gems or something like that by time those anni units leave
Basically considering myself to only have like 10k rn ||since I expect to be shafted this month||
Always expect to get shafted yeah
gem count please be good š
dena's killing me here.... two male protags and Gladion...
yeah i am hoping for a good gemcount so i dont have to worry about possibility of a pick and choose type of anni for me
those times are the worst for me lol
never like the thought of skipping a fav
I'm more cautios, but have to skip stuff from this month and Gladion will be the first mf i'm skipping
But quality seem increasing, I like the new designs and the new content overall
4 free units will help a lot draining my lvlup mats 
Any news for bonanza or rallies?
yeah i gotta double down on being one and done for feb, 100%. its a slim possibility but im not risking it.
koraidon possibility means i make sure i have a pity or more sitting around
my mind's simple as that rn
I don't see any Bonanza in the content schedule pastebin sadly
4? Who?
Pokekid, riley, lodge wally, arcremie probably
Pokekid, are you bad because you are a free unit, or are you a free unit because you are bad?
It seems to have Static Shock 5 and Innate Inertia.
Already sounds better than mcchu
Seeing annilillie and sslusamine pops out in ss gladion event, annisteven probably will pop out in hoenn nc event 
Im happy that its another general pool lodge
Another easy set of move coins in the bag
Plus gauntlet too, more move coins 
oh right.
Riley seems to be really good Team Speed Support with access to Ramming Speed on grid
with Dynamax.
I'm not too sure if i'd want to EX Role him for his sync nuke (its only Brawn Sync 5 š¦ )
im just bracing for anni jumpscare possibility, cause uhhh, my gemcount wasnt ready for what just happened
i dont like the possibility of only 1 pity entering anni
if none of the new banners this month is not your Fave, its a pretty good skip month. š®
||this month has a MF mega fav. woulda been two if one wasnt free!||
as i said before though, ive been waiting for this day for almost 2.5 years now, so im not gonna deprive myself of that release from the wait.
You've got the entire month + more before ||he|| dips. So you can just waait and skip for now until we see March's Datamine.
you dont understand, its literally in my top 5 trainers 
i am NOT letting that slide away from my grasp
I know, but save. š¦
if i didnt care so much about ||gladion and the aether family|| then id hold off till datamine. but im basically a fanboy when it comes to them, serena, N, and Riley.
i just let myself loose if its top 5 cause this is the exact type of thing i save for. main thing regarding anni im praying for is no bikes yet 
that or for me to not be shafted, but we all know if i dont plan for the shaft, ill be shafted guaranteed 
anyway, ill move back out of this chat for the night probs o7 gn zenners
Riley being free is nice, he was towards the top of my want list
dude could be a pf and I'd go for it
he's also the first free pair to receive EX role too
Easier sync multiplier than victrier
as victrier need enemies having 0 buffs
Victrier is free EX tho since we get PU from logging in, not sure about Riley yet

I'm going to end up forgetting to wait & EX him, then they'll just sit there forever 
Now that Riley is here, there's only Mira and Buck left out of sinnoh battle partners
Just wait for the event to rerun, then we can convert em to 2

At least haze is built in his kit and possible rotations
Plus zone is free extra multiplier
Good month this time
All skips on main
||***2 masterfairs on alt
***||
||AND A PF||
Should I prioritise masterfair faves over pokefair faves
thats really up to you
True but we were discussing that Riley brawn sync 5 sync multiplier is easier to setup than victrier unbuffed foe sync up 5
In this case i will prioritise whoever thats less likely to rerun
||Anni Lillie and lussamine?||
This is their second rerun
I won't be too bummed out about losing ||sssteven|| on alt cuz i got it on main
Both of them lasts till 23 march, you can even see half anni stuffs if you're unsure
Well ||lussamine is 25th march||
oof

july 2022 was the last time we got a gem count lower than what we have this mth
what's the number looking like, at a rough estimate?
22890


well we betterpray for a rally
is that good
they added the pokƩfairs to the free 100 pulls
and said
"less gems to compensate"
mind u its 22k cos we have BV
next mth onwards
we dont
so technically its 20k
lmfao
Damn

So basically itās like oct23 from historical gem thing or whatever all over again. Suuuper weak gem month.
Got itā¦
nov was 23k yes
Right before 4.5 ani, excellent timing

They're just undercutting us now so they can overload us during the half anni, trust 
So Iām prob going into anni with slightly under pity
esp since there is a masterfair this mth
Cringe
its jover
Wouldn't the 3k we're most likely getting on Pokemon day also fix that
Hum, i feel like we're gonna get 3k gems before the 4.5 anniversary D;
but yeah its rough.
Gladio running that long smells like another MF or two next month
Didn't we already have like 2-3 21-22k "early" gem counts that turned into 25-26k every time in last 6 months or something
well no bc the pokemon day 3k goes into next update
biggest issue with these 100 rolls including Fair units is that you are very unlikely to get the things you actually want
YEP
its not early gem count cos im done with calcs lol
this is why its abit too late to save now over last year
anni will be among us
*unlikely to get anything
I can see it⦠I CAN SEE IT!
FTFY
i mean, i usually get like 2 Clemonts
I meant "I counted basically everything, it's sub 22k"
I'm pretty sure it happened at least twice
In last 6-8 months
if they added rallies then yes it will go up to 25/26k
does this include new content gems?
but we dont know if they would do a rally for gladion so lol
new content has no gems i think
wow rip
absol didnt post anything in quests
BV got nerfed off
thats next datamine
Also shouldn't PokƩmon day fall under this count since it drops the day it's announced
Also they mentioned new event logins dropping the item to challenge it
So I'd expect those logins to give gems too maybe
Mhhh
they nerfed run up to anni log in bonus too
ppl on gem copium lol
So apparently gem count this month is damned
its aint gonna go up like before anymore
it goes into next datamine thats how it is being treated accounting wise
cos we dont get it at reset
not only it doesnt go up, it goes down
Shit.
Me when even the anni bonus is nerfed
I don't understand why rally and gem gift from present would be calculated differently in the count

so this mth we have 5 wks
thats 1500
next mth we have 4 wks
so thats a net loss of 800 lmao
PokƩmon day 3k is the same day it's announced tho?
Always was
It's literally gifted at the moment of the event
i didnt say it was accounted differently lol
Because thatās how datamine counts always have been
because datamine happens before that
So gem count this month is approximately zero?
the pokemon presents gems are not given at reset.
its given on 27 feb [insert wtv time]
the count this month ends on 27 feb
so accounting wise, we put it into 28 feb
what?
⦠huh
From what I've heard it's barely above 15k
The Anni 2 and nemona ones are?
Tlim said just under 22
Iirc
15k lmao
Yeah that's very very bad
15k is 2019 levels of counts lol
wait who counted 15k thats so off
15k is impossible lmao
bruh we are talking about 2 different things here.
rally gems have a set date and are given at reset.
pokemon presents gems are not given at reset.
but yea sub 20k is like 1-2 year anni
If I remember
literally no one idk what they're talking about
2019 had 11k counts
PokƩmon presents are usually given at the time the event is held
Or am I wrong there
yes and its not at reset
You guys should do very well at accounting
which is after anni datamine
Even if there's nothing shady people will think there's money laudering going on
under the half anni datamine count
Because of stuff like this
Cooking the books Pokemas style
Ok then I think there's some inconsistency as there's been multiple situations where gem count was updated after datamine
if the gem count is updated after datamine
it will only be because of the twitter rallies
Money laundering, what?-
because they are announced after im done with the calculations and within the same period
Okay, sorry if it took a while but I wasn't understanding that
for example, the iono one
Money laundering is far from putting out paid banners and all
appreciate your work tlim
Got it
iono rally was announced on 10th jan, gems given on 22nd jan
Donāt think rallies are usually even known till they happen
i cant count the 3k gems for feb cos its given in the same time frame as v2.40
I wasn't trying to shittalk anyone or your work I just couldn't understand the way those two were treated
pokemon presents gems are always accounted for in the anni months
twitter rally gems will be accounted for according to the date they are given out
if they are given out on the next update then it will go into the count for the next update
if its this current update (ie iono) then i will edit the gem count for this update
Ok well that's clearer at least
No no weāre making fun about how gems are being counted by people in this server lol
otherwise the gem count doesnt change
Oh lol
(unless i made a calculation error)
Though wouldn't it make more sense to put an addendum
Like "oh at this point we know x no of gems are given out, but two weeks later there are extra gems"
Ah tlim
"So we put the extra gems in a seperate category"
?
"So people won't get confused"
So you will count the presents one for the february-march update then?
isnt there a gem breakdown for that lmao
If it happens
usually poke presents gems for pokemon day goes into march
I think simpler would just to count those gems neither as Feb nor Mar
And just put it as "extra"
august pokemon presents will depend on the date
then u have 3k in limbo and not accounted for lol
Then just do like
- February: xxxx gems
- Rally (Pokemon Day): xxx gems
- Mar: xxxx gems
And then continue listing
what listing are u talking about
Also, idk if yall think the same, but
In historical gem counts
we have a gem breakdown
so i have no control over that soz
Imo, gem counts are fine, BUT what makes them bad is the numbers of limited
If we had various spotlights
anw there is a daily gem breakdown and everything
Then 23k would personally be good
But 23k with many limiteds is not so good
I mean there doesn't seem to be a lot of limiteds
so if u refer to that when u are unclear of the gem counts, i think it would be fine
If you pretend variety and seasonal donāt exist itās 2 limiteds 
Eh, I still count them
Also
Could it be low this month cuz of the 2 freebies we get?
trust the 6k gems twitter rally 
Actually how does the 100freepulls work
one ticket gives u 10 pulls
Remember the free 10 multis?
Do you only have a chance to get Iona and Bulurola
u have 10 tickets
That's how it works
Itās technically 3/4 freebies depending if you count Wally
And no other Poke Fair
What
No actually
I was on mental health break then
Oh yeah wally
Where did you get that from
We donāt know exact details we just know about 11 old pfs so far from pastebin
We will see when it comes

Theyāre talking abt the images
We don't know which 11?
yeah the iono banner image
most of us are, we can't confirm what its for
why is it there lmao
The ticket one
The pastebin has it we donāt know if thereās more than them or not
oh thats the ticket scout banner...

Go find the scout pastebin if u wanna see it for yourself eon
Iām going to sleep gn
It's not counted so far
Also maybe we get some new permanent gems
Like we got a bit of gems when we first finished Battle Villa didn't we
The pastebin hasn't mentioned anything about the new gamemode content
Okay gut
okay do we think the 22k is accurate or should it be a bit higher
but we dont know exactly by how much yet or something
It's the one we currently know
I think (read: I hope) it's grossly underestimate
Also just so I get it clear the free 100 pulls is essentially free mix scout?
It's very accurate but depending on how you see the month you could count a possible rally or the PokƩmon day 3k as this month, making it less shit but making march less full too, your call
Only pokefairs
We'll see the rates only when it drops
Well the good thing is I won't be pulling "a battle villa monster and the first viable fairy type striker"
If it's only Pokefairs
Oh ye, I can see the doomposting soon lmao @vestal leaf
Whoās the battle Villa monster?
The usual eos soon bullshit and all
Summer Lyra
Twitter!
I mean this server becomes Twitter
the game at least still has a year in it in the worst possible situation i feel
The game has much more than one year
thats why i said at least
I think it has at least five more years tbf
It avoided collapse on its first year
So that's wheely good
Personally think we're fine til 6th anni
As of now
Easily
Too hard to say more
7th depends on what they're gonna do after 5th Anni
Oh my god I just realised that is not appropriate in English
Because I don't think hisui an Paldea will cover enough on their own
Bring on the the spinoffs I say
Paldea still has quite a few Pokemon to go
Shiny Celebi and...Shiny Celebi
Wigglytuff and Wigglytuff
Grovyle and Grovyle
i mean by 6th anni we'll have the highly likely 2024 game to use aswell
a collab with PoGO would be funny
Primal Dialga and Dusknoir
Ah ye
i dont really WANT a new mainline game this year but you know its happening
i just want a possible remake to be NOT made by Illca
depending on what it is there could definitely be material to work with for masters
if its a new legends game or something
Was never an issue before
and we've barely touched swsh dlc, pla, sv, and just havent touch sv dlc
Ah
The issue is, ilca can actually make good games, they just fumbled on pokemon
My theory is that they're either
- better be dropping a bomb in march
- doing reverse 2023 with early year with low economy, latter parts with real good counts
They are probably just trying to increase their margins tbh
Upset the players and make some of them quit or something, idk thats what they usually mean with increasing margins in gacha
Less gems, more emphasis on bundles and more banners > more money
Ehhhh if that was the case they'd be giving more deals and paid stuff
Instead of fairs in the 100 pulls
And a relatively tame bait
also like
theres only 2 decent bundles
This bait is really really mediocre
that are repeatable atleast
I think they have a somewhat good profit margin already don't they
We just saw them increase the cost of selects and cut on the number of units per multi, although the ones available are better, they are clearly incentivizing more and more the use of paid gems, alongside the new Spotlights, Mix and Variety banners, I donāt think itās a debate
you should have seen what MHUR did, removed 365 free rolls a year
THAT'S increasing their margins alright
The cost of selects was justified lol
And the paid incentivization has been going for more than a year
It's not a "now" thing
yeah it was just "pick any pokefair ever" like of course its gonna be more than 3k
Yeah, now they are cutting the free gems, they are just doing it in phases ofc
First of all, what do you mean it's not a debate are you part of DeNA's marketing team
The only way to understand the reasoning is seeing it through
Depends, last year count wasn't bad per se
9 pities in a year is a lot
Please donāt ping, thank you
Second of all I don't think DeNA is stupid enough to watch its gacha go into P2Wstate where no one likes it
2022 was alien as an economy year
sighhhhhh
See 2019 and 2021
Lol
They almost killed their game two times I don't think they'll wanna try to do it a third time
Just sayin'...
Which ones?
What's the chance of pokefairs from our free pulls
I on't think we know yet
They are just doing what they think itās best for the company, they donāt have perfect information on the customer base, could be bad, could be good in the long term. For me, seeing recent pokefairs in a select a month after they drop is great, since I buy the bundle every 20 days, it just means that Iāll be probably pulling on even less fairs
wrong reply, oop
Oh I wasn't aware you had perfect information on DeNA
I need to get more surveys on GPR so I can start doing selects again
The selects price increased for a good reason tho lol
They had all fair limiteds of each role in it, excluding masterfairs and seasonala
My bad might have pinged, sorry
Nah haven't
Uh dont u still only get to select 1?
yeah but you get to pick between like
20-30 units
Yes
Oh right I should check whenās the likeliest day for March datamine haha
Still only get to pick one 
But you have all limiteds of each role to select from
Idk it doesnt rlly make sense when u just have more options instead of actually getting more
They will never let you select more than one lol
with regular selects it is possible for you to just already have everything you want though
I mean, thatās discretionary, as I said, for me it was great, itās just a matter of valuing your paid gems and using them conscientiously. Unfortunately there are more and more incentives to use paid gems, so even with parsimony, you can end up overstretched. Just putting it out there because I think that before paid gems and the ways in which to spend them were fairly straightforward, now management is even more important, especially since free gems are diminishing and for me it means that being more strict on pulls is even more important
Ye
Then u would skip it? Dont ppl already have someone they plan to select?
So all the other options dont matter
Eh, imo it depends on if you wanna get a shortcut to what you want, or if you are willing to wait.
If you want the shortcut of course you'll go paid, otherwhise wait.
And this is why I'm perfectly ok and fine with the paid mf cake banner
And I hate the fact that weeks ago, someone unironically said that whales don't need and deserve this lol
wha
they soend real money they could be spending on food or something
on funny pokemon trainer game with cheryl in it
they deserve this lol
Yeah, ALSO
Whales keep the game alive, so lol, please make stuff that appeals to whales more
My only point is that they are trying to increase their margins, which to me means that as savers, we need to be even more strict, the incentive to use paid resources was a cue to this and now the cut in gems is showing it more
They didn't had any incentives related to masterfairs, so
I always suggest peoples to save in salt chat, yet I rarely get listened
they have the cake scouts now but like
cmon
Yeah
I have nothing but respect for whales
Saying whales don't need stuff is bullshit
they're the reason the game still exists
Whales didn't complain because the game was very badly managed paid wise
people in this server have done it
Like
Once we got better smaller deals
It was obvious they were getting something too
sloth?
i am worried
Not only him
amongst others
I may be a converted saver soon
Some people in #1010275375730925638 have like 100k free and 30k paids
Depends on how Feburary goes
love you linking the chat we're in
Yeah
if i were to make a better paid incentive for master fairs
i think id add the 3 daily thing from seasonals
instead of just one
Yeah I legit just got out from my job, I thought this was lounge lol
dw i don't throw stones 
That's a bit much imo, I'd make the pity 350 or the daily 100 paids
Having 3 dailies for month+ is huge
Do we got gem calcs already? 
huhuhu.....
22890 next month
a grim reminder that you dont need paid gems.

3k away from finally getting my 100k
Wow, hope there's pokemon presents gems to boost it up
according to tlim presents gems are counted for March
so yeah this month count is underwhelming unless we got another gems rally like Iono's
I might get by as i have around 106k gems currently plus only 1 fave on February, even if there's 3 MF faves on March...they probably lasts till April
Used to enter the new game mode
Is that paid
That's pretty much guaranteed
Nope they give us 3 free on February while future passes will be given via missions iirc
Based on in game dev letter
Because it sure sounds like a Nameless Honour type of thing
Well our BP is nameless honour
You can pay for faster BP clears
That said, i can 2/5 registeel on February 
absol told me there isnt any gems from battle rally
so 22890 is the final count
pray for gladion twitter rally
Saving for datamine then ig 
We got low gem count on run up before this was also due to victrier...this time its riley + alcremie+ pikachu kid gem tax 
Ok now looking at ||chase and Victor's || kit im not interested anymore
Only ||gladion is gonna take my gems||
Well Riley is PF level so at least he let's you resist the urge to pull
Summer Riley 
Inb4 there's Mira pair up on run up to anniv, and another less gems run up 
Oh buck claydol too
Iāll just pretend Riley and Lucario ate the other gems for making it free 
see, the problem is
i dont care for riley
I canāt help you with that, mate

Nope. Doesn't ring a bell.
Heās a battle partner or something in sinnoh
At least people recognize him more than argenta
one of the stat trainers, you first encountered him in Iron Island
he also gives the player a Riolu egg iirc
Well it would just sit until eos
Mc doesnāt do anything with the stuff they get
Where I got my Lucario in DP/Platinum :)
Should I skip reruns on my alt if i already got it on my main
You should delete your alt
Why tho
Takes away all feelings of accomplishment if you just pick half on 1 and other half on another. But I guess it let's you experience having each one
I just like to play with more characters man
having an alt is nothing wrong
Well they gave Victor a meme PokƩmon, just not wooolo
we're getting 3 free units this month
4 if you count lodge
they want us to spend
I couldn't imagine doing events twice everyday
Anyways my question was it I'm only going for a unit on alt cuz I like using it while I already have it on my main is it worth getting over a subfave or not
Riley, Petey, Lodge Wally and who else?
I play the same 5 games shit gets boring real fast
alcremie
First male Palentines and heās given the squirrel.
Are my eyes correct, or did I see the gem count is 23,000?
Wait is alcremie an egg event
For a run up with a MF

Hopefully 3k in twitter rally. Separate from the pokemon presents
it's sync pair event just like riley and petey
Itās like Torchic
Oh right, about the Alcremie, can you only choose one of the 6? If so, are there any differences between their kits?
So uh what do I do with this
Where itās player teaming up with a separate pokemon
Depending on the answer I keep a couple of faves or cut off a lot
That's a highly subjective question
What's the point of an alt anyways?
Just want to confirm
Free Riley is 5/5 right?
Not 1/5 or smth š
Thank goodness
It just takes 10 days to get the EX
Rolex I still have to use cake right?
I get to play wit nywallace
And units i normally can't get
But his cake is really good, and I would honestly recommend it
Well I have strike cake unused so it's good
What's his cake?
His nuke is already really good for a sprint, and strike makes it AoE
I still have to strike cake NY Wallace 
Same.
OOO strike
I don't have any cakes. 
I have too many strike cakes I need to use
I'll have 2 strike cakes this month
Curse you hoenn for making me use 3 strike cakes already
It's kinda funny that 3 days after i cake petrel they announce sssteven support cake
Only strike cake unit I have is penny and she's 1/5 so riley can take it comfortably
I'll get second cake in 3 weeks I think
oh yeah, speaking of Hoenn RolEXes how are you feeling about SS Steven?
The moment I got a
cake, I immediately used it on Paulo.
Hella good
same
Steven literally couldnāt lose with cakes
he has all the roles finally
Whatever he got would be perfect
I am financially unstable in support cakes after caking petrel
I wanted field more, but support is 100% welcome
And I saved one so now is the perfect time
I want a permanent Field role in the general pool.
Iām waiting until half-anni to decide whether to cake him or not, especially with the Hoenn focus implying Hoenn NCs soon
Where my support cake went(def better than sssteven cake
)
Based
faves over meta, true
He's not even 6ā
...
Ah shucks.
Riley is going to be fighting or steel?
Fighting
Yes
His max countdown is 6 right? Or was it 3?
OVERALL TALLY FOR V2.41 (31 January - 27 February)
Gems = 22890
Strike Candy Coin = 10
Tech Candy Coin = 11
Support Candy Coin = 11
Sprint Candy Coin = 5
Field Candy Coin = 4
Move Candy Coin = 4
Strike Roll Cake Coin = 6
Tech Roll Cake Coin = 6
Support Roll Cake Coin = 6
Sprint Roll Cake Coin = 5
Field Roll Cake Coin = 5
5ā Power-up = 14
BP = +2810 (tally is at 4030, R10)
General Scout Tickets = 59
Kanto Tickets = 0
Johto Tickets = 35
Hoenn Tickets = 5
Sinnoh Tickets = 5
Unova Tickets = 5
Kalos Tickets = 5
Alola Tickets = 3
Galar Tickets = 0
Gem Count from 31 January 2024 - 27 February 2024
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893411915638923264/1201555295328026734/V2410_Feb24_GC.png?ex=65ca3e92&is=65b7c992&hm=4c35ae29d72854f47455af486064e3c2b2bc4f6bbf6456f844e6b0bec4458228&
Daily Gem Count Breakdown from 31 January 2024 - 27 February 2024
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893411915638923264/1201555383685234810/V2410_Feb24_DGCB.png?ex=65ca3ea7&is=65b7c9a7&hm=a4117f4bc6892d8205512e7c1c1bdfeeff4dab2e2f1878f2280c545c4b271f79&
Daily Gem Count & Gems Left Till 27 February 2024
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893411915638923264/1201555449267359744/V2410_Feb24_DGC.png?ex=65ca3eb6&is=65b7c9b6&hm=2d60bc212e0ea7d24f9e7107ff1ff69461ff464dbc0e4715b44b6418638baa43&
@timber wren
Dreaded 22k it is
ty as always tlim
Ty tlim 
Ah wells the free units are great minus lodge wally.
Time to cope on social rallies 
great work as usual, ty tlim 
Dont have any info on the alcremias though ;-;
5star ... What role?
It's 4ā support
Ah the dreaded 4 star support candy 
Yep
not 23k
this is disgusting tbh
He's got ramming speed and brawn sync 5 iirc
Lodge Wally seems...bad
riley is great, like victor, i think we can treat them as new free legendary because we don't have those anymore, f2p 5* units
It probably can find a niche on toxic stall, but
And has a EX role which is nice
So, riley is that good?
Fighting type. Pretty solid imo
Noctowl seems...
will he be better than bea tho
...what even is it
its better putting upcoming gacha pairs in spoiler tag here
He's ok, got good stats for a 4* supp, generalist support with evasion and healings
||Well Greedent seems interesting||
they're pushing out so many normal type recently
Normal HSE next 
Tbf, can we blame them?
The type was in quite a weird spot
||I wonder if Garm will still be outclassed by Sneasel tbh||
Thanks! Hope we'll get some sort of rally like what happened in january
||Well Chase doesn't seem that good though 1. its Kanto Analysis does buff rats and 2. it probably solos Tornadus||
But yeah, I do think the count is low this month due to...
3 free units and the pokemon day 3k
4 including the creamie
Wait, we have two other free units?
Riley is free, I'm safe this month too 
Rally 3k gems Hopium
Also super sus they're sticking to f2p lodges for a while
Nah who am I kidding weāll get gold power up lol
O right
Oh right I forgot
Nah, I'm personally ok with it
Especially after two months in a row were mfs last year
Same here. Means more rewards for free
Last month we had a gem rally, so it's realistic to expect it
Ye that pissed off many!
We learn to not get our hopes up
I think it's pretty fair to expect a present for Pokemon Day
Ye
Iām already declaring February a safe month for me to save.
Also, Iono brought a 3k gems this month, so I don't see why expecting it again is not realistic
Same
so 2MF next patch or 3MF, i think they're spreading out the MF like they did with Rosa and Nate
i don't mind ||Gladion|| if next patch only have 2
Yeah, same. I think it's pretty likely seeing as he debuts in the latter half of the month and runs throughout April
||I don't think I'm able to pass up on NDM though...||
It's nice that ||SS Gladion stays late into March. I'll have time to see what's coming for half anni then decide whether or not to go for him||
Oh we just have to complete it
even after checking kits this month is an ez skip for my main acc
I was confused because tlim said it doesnt give gems
ig its just a 1 time thing
think ill get 2 mfs during anni
i have to wait till 25th to 3/5 ncblue
Nah, I think every week gives us 300
Which is... ok to me
Battle rally has 500 less gems in total than villa looking at the breakdown
I think the shop has them
Did we get Galactic Admins?
Seems like if I want to continue hoarding candy my best gladion team is ss wally and sylveon. 3/5 gladion shouldn't need above 1/5 teammates for 3k CS
No
Anyway, as I asked in lounge before
When villa was first released, how much it gave?
Does the Rally have other rewards (move candy/role cake coins) to offset this?
No idea I just glanced at the summaries
Itāll be in the pastebin but I aināt got time for that rn lol
I think stuff like that is in shop?
Welp, not what I expected, BUT ||roll cake voucher seems solid||
Is the exchange rate 1 voucher per coin or 5 vouchers per coin?
Donāt think we need to spoiler the shops but thatās pretty good rewards
But maybe Iāll need to farm the cookies more in LG
What are feathers used for btw?
Never used them lol
Donāt worry I havenāt used the feathers either lol
Too lazy to rng the skill gears
well, that gear is not a particular requirement for anything other than try-harding, which most players don't do
Next next LG we might actually already have lucky cookie slots (hopefully they dont wall them behind upgrade items that are hard to get...)
If I am close to a HS event I would consider
They definitely will
Iām also expecting for the additional grid energy thing
If they pull a feh theyāll put the item behind a paywall
Grid energy I doubt they will
If anything
I expect the extra energy to be based on the number of dupes you have
No free ever pin this month, so ig there's no pattern for it
Anyway, if someone remembers how much gems they gave with og villa, let me know
Need to know for something
2000
it seems it was 1800 gems per villa run but it was resetting right away without waiting, so 3600 per month in 2 villa runs
Yeah they promised the gems would go elsewhere to make up for the change. Obviously they lied as we continue to trend down
they promised 5/5 will be an alternative and not straight up powercreep, and here we are
What's higher than master?
Wdym

In what context?
Iām not really sure what the question has to do with this channel anyway
I meant originally
? It was never promised lol
It was just an expectation by the community
Plus weāre still getting the usual 2k from BV this month as part of its move to permanency, afaik
So the lower gem income isnāt because BV is leaving
If anything
I think we will see the effects of that next month
I'm hopeful for a rally like the iono one, since it will bring the count to 26k, and pokemon day free 3k too, which would make it 29k
But imo, rally we need to wait and see
Also, I would be kind of sad if we actually see the effects of villa going away next month, since it's supposed to be the .5 anni.
Sure, I'm happy with the game and all, but that would bring my mood down a lot
Thatās a lot of copium
I'm not coping, just having a realistix expectation based on last month
If it happens or not is a different story
It doesn't, I was just wondering.
....? Then why was it here?
But yeah cobalt, sorry if my reply to your message was long lol
No worries
Mmh
I just hope my prediction turns true, if not, well, can't do anything about it
They literally claimed in the dev letter it would be reallocated
First announcement of the new mode
Was it instantly or no?
I forgot
Also, finally found how much gems bv used to give at the start, and well, it was actually 1500
@drifting dagger I was talking about the original change for BV from 3600 to 2k
BV originally was 1800 twice as often
Whatever it was it was 2x as often and more total
Do you all have faith in a rally or two to help the gem count
No
Maybe 
Doubting, im betting if we did get a rally itād fall under next months count from timing
Too close to anni for them to do much else from my pov, they gotta hype it up rather than hype up something competing against it for attention lol
We're only like...
31 days away from half Anniversary. ||I just realized how far that is.||
It is less than a month away
February is a very good month to be skipping if you're interested in half anni and don't have a pity yet
Only unit I want from this month is less than a week away from datamine so I can hold off until more info pops up
That's the spirit 
Now let's keep that up...
All of this month is a skip for me, it was a disappointing datamine (pair wise)
Really hoping something I like drops for half anni 
More time to save for you tho 
True 
Volo and Cyllene to go alongside Sinnoh NC trust 
Volo

Volo 
If we get Volo... I'd be scared.
I'm kinda hoping it won't be Sinnoh NC next because I'm gonna need like three pities for that and I only have one 
Volo and Cyllene my insta-pull beloveds
it's voloversary & arceus 
NC Rei with Arceus so true
Seeing new MF like 1-2 weeks before half anni, i wonder if i can hopium its half anni pokefairs like during annimay, anniskyla, anniraihan time
never ever
i think we never have gotten less master fairs than the previous year in the same month.
Also where alola pride, why there's 2 alola spirits and both are sygna suits 
Manifesting alola pride NC Selene 
thats the anni unit 

Im happy that my faves finally cover fairy types, now only left poison 
We haven't even gotten a SS for Elio or Selene.
They can be like galar NC
None of em have sygna suits
But got NC alts
Calem as well
That would make sense.
Tbh I'm expecting another trio NC for this half anni, which makes me think it's either Hoenn with May, Brendan, and Wally or Sinnoh with Dawn, Lucas, and Barry
I would be genuinely stunned if half anni doesn't come with at least one MF
Gonna be hard for my gems either way 
Oh wally also make sense especially when he got lodge alt on February
Unova pride moment
pls not hoenn im not ready 
It should be 2 since we are getting gladion and he lasts until april anyway
Same 
Yup
inb4 NC Rei and Akari
I dont mind for unova duplicate flag bearer because one is anniversary alt while the other one is NC...but gladion and lusamine are both sygna suits and both got spirits 
Wait unova has pride but not spirit nvm
i dont see them as NCs or SSs, for me they're just MFs
can N be downgraded to spirit? He doesnt help physical units
Basically the same thing anyway
Yeah but kitwise idt he does anything for physical units
Ig its just the first one to get a MF in a region is flag bearer, except hoenn 
There's blue flare pep rally
speed always nice
But i kinda like this event, i like that they reintroduced old alts in new events. It enriched poma lore more
Put annisteven in hoenn NC lets goo
Steven has his Ray and Sandslash in the VA, it would be cool to see him with all his alts in the NC somehow
Yep i like this juicy lore stuffs especially when i treat PoMa like continuation of main game events 

Wdym downgrade? From my perspective thatās an upgrade
Spirit/pride is higher damage% overall since most teams donāt mix damage anymore
Yep its an upgrade, spirit/pride got 20% damage increase and 20% damage reduction while flag bearer only 10% damage increase but 20% damage reduction...type teamwork only 10% for both damage and damage reduction
I didnt realize its a higher percentage, makes sense since u have the tradeoff of boosting both
The main downside of it is it only protects from its half of the damage. Spirit doesnāt reduce physical and vice versa
True
I like flag bearer on supports more and spirit/pride on dps more, since overlap of same passive of the three in same region doesnāt effect the team anyway
And supports the role more likely to be used with the opposite dmg type usually
Cannot wait for anni, 2 more free support faves for me, i kinda like type teamworks as well because i favor monotype teams to do cs clears
I calculated and i can use February's rainbow ticket on registeel 
Lodge wally is free coins
looks like if we get Pokemon Present Day gems, that's 3k gems + 22/23k gems for next month
currently i've got 27k gems + 8k gems.
They couldāve made it a pf lodge
so at the end of Feb, i'll be at hum. 27k + 3k + 23ishk gems
52k/53k nonpaid gems.
and around 11k paid gems o-o/
well at least now, outside of Sinnoh and Paldea, everyone has 3 sync pairs per region
||My Jan Spending window is done, I have spent one pity to get three master fairs.|| Time to hunker down and wait for Anni
I do
If it happens? Good.
If not? Well, can't do jackshit about it sadly.
I do agree count is sad this month, but constantly being negative and saying expecting a rally is coping?
Just let me hope 
this is directed at the doomposters btw
Run up half anni rally 
Damn almost 8k less than feb last year
Maybe with gladion?
He is too close to anni from my perspective
I just donāt realistically see them tweeting about him rather than anni if itās a rally
If thereās a runup rally my guess is more so related to Riley
Cause heās basically our runup unit
Seems like theyāre starting to give us these event 5* units as a runup celebration reward
Iād be happy to be surprised with a gladion celebration I just donāt think itād be for him with the timing sadly
Still hoping for something at least even if not expecting it to arrive before cutoff
Yeah I agree
But also, idk how likely this is, but I think count is lower because of the 3 free units we get this month
Low gems is kinda far from the game's doom, the game's doom is near when they start to give like 3 or 4 pities amount of gems per month. Thats how it went with last game that i played that experienced EOS, they even release a banner that have all units that ever existed in the game as well and the currency to pull it can be obtained for free just by grinding the final before eos event content 
They becoming too generous especially on the last 3 months before EOS
Plus they close the paid currency option at shop either so people can no longer buy paid currency
Which game?
Digimon rearise
Jan was also bad but rallies made it better (still lower than past year)
Maybe they're shifting on more rallies bcs ppl have to share (free ads)
I want more community activities like recent iono co-op where we all work together to clear the goals
Yep, I like stickers
And they better share Akari&Rei art, damn!!!
The official ones are so good why we can't have them
Maybe they will put it in lodge later
Eh, 26k is fine imo
But 22.8k almost 23k? Yeah, it's sad....
As I said yesterday, I'm not even angry.
I just can't bring myself to care so much on a bad count
I don't really worry too much about gem counts either, but I would be disappointed with 23k. I'll personally be completely fine if we get the 3k on Pokemon Day, which is fair to expect imo
restarting my save count at 600 gems.. not even sure which character to save up for.
Well, the beauty of saving is that you don't need to have a specific character in mind in order to save! You can just save in case someone you do want pops up
how much gems do we need for one pity again?
+pity
Pulls to reach 400+/400 scout points:
12 multis + 4 paid singles (36.4k)
12 multis + 2 singles (36.4k (paid single + nonpaid single) to 36.6k gems (nonpaid singles))
13 multis (39k gems)
134 singles (40k (including daily paid single) or 40.2k gems (nonpaid single))
You can calculate how many gems you need until pity using /pity in #bot-zone.
Personally as long as with rally/gifts we hit 24k per month I'm refraining from dooming
But I don't condone Anni 4 behaviour either
Agreed with both things there
great time to save cause annis coming up soon.
Also
I legit doubt we will get back to 2019 gem counts
It's impossible, since they were vwry low
I will not ||scout for SS Gladion until knowing half anni pairs||. I will not. I will not.
depends on Anni units tbh. if not my type I'll likely skip. this half-anni gonna be a guaranteed skip cause of my gem count lol
still a good time to save either way. 2-3 months to save for the units considering how long these would stay for
worst case you keep saving till a fav shows up if not during anni

2019-20-early 21
Not just 19
We had 2 years of pretty shit count
ultimate worst case: saving up to 5/5 a specific character ā ļø
They give us 3 free units this month so low gem count is understandable but still sucks, and I donāt want this trend to continue
...3 what? on what events?
sync pair up events
Setting aside the gem count, I am really glad about Riley tho, looks like a great kit to get for free





