#Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)
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Because I skipped waiting for July.
Kinda happy to get new furisode girl npc
Thanks to her, i will finally have 10 fairy pairs lol
I'm still missing one who is a small fav
still waiting for his rerun
also missing Gio but that will continue to be the case 
I thought Gio is free 
He is
I haven't even invited him to my lodge
His nidorino is kinda nice for future poison HS, well partly due to me not having much poison pairs 
He did help me duo Uxie with Ariana
nice day out with the missus
Gonna hope for nihilego, okidogi, munkidori, fezandipity to be poison to boost my faves roster 
Mines all triple too
I just follow what DeNa laid out, a team allows three pairs for a reason 
i dont see the point of solos/duos since i can hit streak 10 np

anything more is just extra stuffs
But i need to be able to do 20 streaks if needed
because if they add more rewards
still safe

i went to 50 streak this time so not really too worried if they upped it
altho this time round wasnt really restrictive
happy newyears eve / newyears, zen chat.
to another year of saving and getting favs š


Just my luck for having new year fave, i hope February is a skip... although if needed, Half anni MF faves will have a month banner duration so can get till late march 
others have a fave list, while I have a "dislike/hate list" 
those chars are insta skip even if they are meta defining units
Whatever helps you skip 
Why would it take a whole day
not sure this trick might help, try greyscaling your phone so it would less likely to pull and get away from your phone in general
- uninstall
- install
- tutorial
- end Ch 3
- level up to PR10
- restart
Wow it takes a lot
Burning 20 days for that doesn't seem any worth, I'd rather find a weekend work and buy the 7k bundle
Also, from reddit
That's just to scare people a bit
was it it really that hard to just translate the ones the JP folks are running?
is there some jp event?
yeah
you basically link your twitter account + PMEX JP account (iirc), and you just have to retweet/like posts with this hashtag https://twitter.com/hashtag/ćć±ćć¹EXęÆćčæć?src=hashtag_click
using an external site, you get points for doing them + also logging ingame.
and you can buy stuff in the external site's shop
like gems, move candy coin and power up tickets.
dang
JP community doesn't need new blood
Eng one is weak af
That's why the JP event is more in line with advertising the best moments of the game while eng one is focused on enrollment of new players
Imo they need to promote the game outside twitter to push more on Asia Latam and Eue
If they're aiming at lightspenders here we are šØšæ bcs the start was good but most of the telegram group we had dropped the game within the first year bcs how damn greedy dena was (little no gems, high prices)
The heck are those
Oh, Latin America n Eastern Europe
Ohh ok
yeah the EN event has a banlist of countries that cannot apply for the new users.
So, a huge mistake I foolishly spent the last 6 days pulling on the Mix scout. There's 14 days of both of the streak bonuses left. What the fuck do I do....?
wdym
I wasted all of those gems on that Mix scout when I should've waited on today's selects
Now I will have 14 days of gems with no idea what to do 
well there's not much you can do if the gems are already spent
if you don't want to continue on the mix, cut your losses and save your paids back up
The thing is, that's 5,400 down the drain
And considering I have 400 paid currently, I'm not gonna be able to do a select for 2 weeks
I'm not sure what to tell you, if the gems are spent the gems are spent š
Yep, I'll have to suck it up
14 days provided u dont daily at all
There goes my 2 and a half months of sync orb bundle but at least its a guaranteed select 
Now i need to prepare for half anni selects
Imagine being able to pull on selects
Can, poma give free selects sometimes usually on run up to anni or anni/half anni
I pull for 4/5 N last time
Kinda nice, 100% paralysis bolt strike
Gloria and Hilda
Does N count?
Um... idk I guess?
I mean, anyone counts, you really don't get to tell someone they can't say a specific character 
Uh huh 
Fair.
||Went Tech > Gloralt and Support > Brendan (Surprise
) for my selects this year. Didn't wanna have to go out of my way for Brendan in the future, and Gloralt interested me the most elsewhere.||
|| id choose the same if I wasnt f2p
||
How about I do it instead?
Raikou and SS Surge?
That seems fun
SS Volkner or Champion Ethan 
there is no rerun only more suffering
Anime ref.
Final Gem Check in of 2023 for me. Very proud of my saving goals this year.
i goota admit
my gem count is huge
but my candy supplies is pretty low right now
and in desperate need to stick my units at 1/5 for now
at least until my candy supply is replenished
Lol meanwhile there's me who never candies units
27/51 of my limiteds are 1/5 and I have no plans to candy any of them except maybe 3 
tbh I plan on candying some of them, I just have choice paralysis 
I have lets see⦠19 1/5s and 24 higher. I plan to candy maybe like eight to ten of them eventually? Maybe more like five or six, depends on how I feel when I actually have more candy
Thanks to the selects, the only faves left to 3/5 are:
4 pairs at 2/5, and 1 pair at 1/5
with this month's move coins, i can finish 2 out of the 4 pairs
Oh the 1/5 pair is registeel so it will take a while
current rerun wishlist: Paulo, SCZinnia, maybe Eusine on a multibanner. thats kinda about all id want atm...
i think its small enough for me to skip paid orb bundles for a little while...
i feel like id want og Lysandre but hes old enough where i wont put it past dena to put him on a future freebie someday (or as the "bad"/outdated unit on a LG banner, if i ever get tempted by those again)
||they were pretty generous with the pools this newyears, so i got to knock out 2 that id prob not wanted to go out of my way for this year that i figured were unlikely to land on any free selects if we get them in future||
They might pop in half anni selects and if you skip paid orb bundles now it might not be enough for half anni
As its timegated 20 days
yeah, im fine with that slight possibility though, TBH
cause only having like 2-3 wants of old units i think is small enough to fit in with most possible new favs for me
since, ive prob said this before, but in my case, most of my fav mons are already ingame
so its mostly just waiting for new Lillie/N/Serena for me
SC Zinnia will prob be right after half anni tho 
Yeah⦠Iām hoping half anni is somewhat quiet fav wise
Hi š
Im hoping for an anniversary skip as well.
Same 
Hopefully its a fave anni for you and a skip anni for us 

Anni Sycamore and Anni Lysandre with matching outfits 
I would be......Brokeā¢ļø
if it has to be an anni fav, dena:
koraidon or raikou or gladion alt maybe...? 
waitnoifitskoraidonthenmiraidonwouldcomesametimepleasenotthat

Summer Anabel for her Suicune o/
three suicunes?
before we even have raikou?
blasphemy.
inb4 we get Walking Wake before Raikou 
honestly? i wouldnt be surprised. or we get...whatever that giraffe-lookin' raikou paradox was called
Raging Bolt?
Or maybe Gouging Fire 
th-thats a thing?
i havent looked up stuff from the 2nd part dlc or whatever yet
It's Entei's paradox version
eww, don't manifest that thing into existence
wait, no, Walking Wake is fine
I had Raging Bolt in my mind, that's the abomination
Giraffe lookin'
ugly cousin of Aurorus
easy, look at Enamorus 
Hm... let look that up.
Bruxish.
or any of the Galar fossils ngl, I hate them all
what could have been... but no, they had to go with the joke
Any more?
Same tbh, I love the concept but damn do they look awful
They're funny
I think Bruxish looks interesting.
How can you not love something that sleep like this #poma-lounge message
šæ
That works?
yup
there are scientific papers to prove that
greyscaling helps to reduce time spent on phone in general
basically because u will get bored by the severe lack of colpurs and everything is monotone
I use my phone for work
A more functional advice maybe?
use another device like ipad instead
imo phone should serve single purpose rather than multiple purpose
i think u can still greyscale your phone when it comes to messaging and taking calls
dont think it affects much really
Graphic design stuff
as if I can get another device in this economy
for iphone
u can activate or deactivate it
via switch button
like when u are supposed to work but u feel the urge to play or watch youtube
greyscaling by a click of a switch is handy
and i dont get it , graphic design normally u would not use phone to design lol
never heard anyone can do graphic design by phone
I should probably touch grass more
as someone doing graphic design thats sounds very impracticle
i mean literally
thats why i said u can activate or deactive whenever u like
Yeah donāt greyscale it please
u can create a switch button
Itās still annoying
no i meant doing it on your phone not the grayscale thing
oh u mean op mentioning graphic designing on phone
Hey artists draw on phone and even flipnote sometimes what's the big deal
True, I have procreate although thatās an iPad thing
greyscaling definitely works but if not comfortable , warm light is a good substitute
The problem is the big fat button called "pull"
most of the time pull button is also because of the colours
if u greyscale it
everything looks monotone
theres no emphasis on visual weight on the button
since the button looks blended into the whole screen with other elements
I just don't go there
There's 10 daily missions and only 1 makes me go to pair scout
And you need 7
Honesty I just do other things
The easiest isnāt greyscaling a phone or whatever
Itās not playing the game lol
yea but not all ppl can get away from that
thats why greyscaling can help discourage opening or playing the app longer
Iāve always had a zen attitude with the game, but I know not everyone is like that
I should probably be more zen in general
Itās about needs and wants, I am hypocritical too, I have wants in life
Idk. For me itās always been I know what I want or donāt want within a day of the datamine and analyzing everything
And I have temptations too, I am human lol
For me I'm just very used to being broke that I know saving is the only way
Yeah, I actually do treat my gems like a real life bank account (well I do have paid gems so itās kinda like a real one lol)
The weird thing is that I can save irl
Not an aqua or chest amount of gems, but itās comfy enough
But not in-game
I find that my wants irl are much less than in-game
Which is probably intentional
Some of it is also from a past mistake
My partner plays gachas with me and I used to get pissed whenever he ends up being luckier then I dumped everything in response
I think itās also easier for me to not think about the game since I play multiple mobile games
And one of them is a long term farm game so I basically have to be patient and manage resources
Which doesnāt hurt in pomas
I should really think about what's important for me right now
And it's probably not PoMa
It should never be PMEX, vs RL things 
If you feel your spending is unhealthy, take a step back for a bit
Skip that mission, you got other 9 to pick, at least you can now
I'm skipping bcs of Mix being always there
Working fine
Welcome to 2024... what are your saving goals? 
the goal is to not have one 
Damn I'm still stuck in 2023 
just over an hour for ya]
Yep! Nearly there
my saving goals ||after blowing some gems off as I normally do to scratch my itch early-year|| is to hit 200K gems
||Always pull, never save||

Gotta take that quote to heart.
maybe not
||Should I get Rosanta?||
Gotta love it.
Short answer is no
Welcome in the saving channel 
I have sinned. ;_;
I'm back to saving again. At least i didnt have to pity anyone.....
|| 32k to 17k || all for favourites.
Yeah that's a legit worry
im only hoping that the new event gives atleast SOME gems
and that the gems given for a new permanent battle villa is bigger than 2k
What do they want from us FTPs? Us to crack and spend?
the upcoming infinite battles one with roguelite settings? o-o?
like if you do it once and get 5k gems or something and it never refreshes i can tolerate that a bit better
Still 5K once over 2K over and over again is not a fair trade lol
absolutely not but im pleading for them to atleast do that
although i imagine its just gonna be 2k as usual
they COULD extend it up to 50 or something and include the rotating characters maybe???
fwiw last time villa rewards were adjusted they got moved throughout the game, we'll see how they handle it
im curious to atleast see how they handle it
this is gonna be a permanent icon on the menu completely unchanging with no reason to go back once your done
i think they'd probably make changes to the mode itself
I'm totally swapping tactic bcs
- wasn't able to keep up with my past LG strikes bcs of less time
- I feel we'll sink more as avrg gems
- ssRoxie made me realize I still have favs around other than Bea n Falinks
So with fewer gems x months and feeling less pressure on powerful units I'll hybernate once again
Stacking the 3k bundle for selects, and waiting for mix to reach the third pool update before investing on it
My only temptation now is to burn my 5k scout tickets bcs I want to EX more units but need to resist till next anni for the genpool update
ummmmmm
yes.
Save above 50k
in the span of like 2 months(i think) i managed to save up a pity for nc rosa, and then decided to go back to being an idiot and did one multi each one sst and ssa
No goals 
mfw gambling addiction
Somehow got away with only having to ||expend 3k for my fave but then the dopamine along with the voices in my head told me to keep rolling||
||so I used 18k instead of stopping at 3k||
I will now end the month with 24k instead of 39k
Big sad
i ended the month/year with an amount too small to even remember
I had 15k before this reset hit
To get atleast 60k by the end of the year if I donāt blow my gems on SST Red, which I will do.
i still need to log in for the new year reset
My new goal is to reach 50k without leading into temptation
I'm expecting these next few months to be a bit dry of faves so I think i can do it
(unless they throw in ncbede rerun)
maybe i can try to save up 2 pities before my birthday(mid june)
and then do some bday spending
idk
I just realized that the giveaway is starting.
My goal is to skip January. February coming up next month. Which is a good month for me to save gems.
I donāt care what I get. Iāll take any amount.
same(if i don't somehow luck into the 60k i will fight dena)
just expect to not get it
This will be the third time I get 300 gems from the giveaway
10 iPad babies who only played the game cuz they heard Ash is in it will get the 60k,flex it in our faces,then uninstall the game cuz it takes up too much storage and they can't install Subway surfers*

I donāt have any memories on past new year giveaway gems I gotten.
We all get 300
sounds like me
I should probably do a gem count before the year ends
gem count, nearly 2 pities but good enough to end the year with
For now, Iām in saving mode. Iām preparing my gems.
the rest of the update is a skip thankfully
maybe I'll finally get back to the #100klife lfg??
And if October a skip, Iām saving more.
I should make a new fave list
Decided to purge through last night
A lot of phantom faves
A shocking amount
I keep adding new units as faves with justification of them being new i think
Really need to change that
I need a new list also. Itās now empty.
Congrats
I am still stuck in rerun hell
Wallace may also be joining the rerun hell list this year
But i need to assess myself whether he is a phantom fave or not
it's best to not go for reruns anymore unless you truly want them
I do love his outfit but I also feel my brain is just trying to make me fomo
I think i can remove Jessie and James from my fave list
They won't get alts anyways
constantly going for reruns can just leave you unprepared for future units which keeps your list too big
Ik
Now I gotta assess wallace
Do i really like this clown or is my stupid brain trying to fomo like always
I always have the test of "would it be worth it to lose a pity to x unit"
That's smart
But my brain loves assuming I'll get it in 6-7 and can easily leave
That is not the case
Even though the last 2 months have been very generous to me in terms of luck i have hit bad ends before
then I think you need to get rid of that mindset of assuming you'd get it early to truly think clearly when it comes to pulling
Did not expect to see more gems getting nerfed on the first day of 2024 but ok go off dena
with any luck they will be redistributed to the new event
but yeah

we'll need to wait for in-game confirmation obvs but it does not sound good

Maybe first clear gems

But definitely not a steady 2k stream
losing BV is a big freaking blow
it gave the best rewards out of any event
i really hope we haven't lost all the gems there, surely dena doesn't think we won't notice 
They r nerfing eveything they can but oh well
BV is indeed a major loss.
theyre making autoing gauntlets almost mandatory at this rate 
That is crazy subjective my friend LMAO
76,750 gems left, now patiently waiting for datamine 
As there's 20k gems left this datamine, i can grow to 96k
got what i wanted this update too, not spending anymore now
february really only has 2 chances to entice me with its pokefairs as palentines is probably a near immediate skip
mallow/appletun was literally the only one that ever interested me
I need to prepare in case manaphy or magearna appears on Palentine
They are kinda have heart motive
also remember for Wallace - he is a field unit, it will take a much longer time to boost him to 3/5 with candies as well
not recommended unless he is a fave
His 3/5 is not needed anyway
Thank you DeNa for giving niche type npc pairs, now my fairy pairs finally become more than 9 
Catherine's sync can pack a punch
Hopefully they can get EX in the future 
If I'm starting at 0 right now. How much will I able to save until half-anni? And when is it?
March right?
Feb 28th officially, the pairs drop early March
You can make some calcs from the data in the pins but we obviously don't know Feb's gem count
Also if its MF, the banner usually stays for a month...so you can calculate the whole month of march gems as well
Society if DeNa would give EXs to the freebies 
Why save when am on the verge of pitying another unit
Is that EX?
Valerie gaming 
Hope there's another free npc on palentine 
I like npc pairs, finally can dump my 3* move candies
Please colress alt on half anni yes it's hopium I know 
Started working on making my fave list again
Not going very great
I've got seven future faves that are Pokemon alone
I haven't even counted reruns on trainers yet
BV will stop giving us gems... that will be sad
quite hard for the new event to match it
Really will depend on how everything is executed.
I hope that they said BV is a permanent content means its like CS, it is available anytime and the reward refresh in certain period, in this case monthly
So no need to worry to clear it in 2 weeks
Can clear it in a month

Maybe weāll get rewards one more time when itās permanent
Hopefully they put the gems one rerunning mission with 2,000 gems that just says "beat hall 30" like the old LA missions
Itās dena⦠they took away those. You really think they wouldnāt take away villa gems⦠
Gotta have some hope
Just noticed that I hit my first ever free pity stash!! 

first? 
I'm too afraid to even consider if I want to know more 
If it's the first after a while then it is even more impressive 
||Got nate today and the rest of the month is a complete skip for me. For once I can actually rack up a good number of gems and hopefully prep for 4.5 anni if any more favs happen to arise. Its really such a huge weight off my shoulders ||
It's my very first! All the other pities I've done for pairs have been... Supplemented
and I've never had more than like 15k free gems at any given time before
||Good news for my savings goals: took me 15K gems to get NC Rosa and SSTR and now I can comfortably wait for datamine with two new master fairs||
It's good to be rewarded for saving with good luck!
Sure is.
I see, congrats on the milestone then!
thanks!
i dont need ||sst red||. cool unit but surely theyll release a similarly broken pair with a character im more invested in around half anni or anni, especially since im a legends arceus enjoyer
^^ reminder to myself
Saving for 4.5 anni is a great goal, it'll be here before we know it
need to not fall into hubris of ||getting this months target in one multi.|| saving mode hibernation time once again
I went for Cynthia but alas, we failed. Now I have 280 gems and I am disgusted with myself
this is why we dont even consider it without a pity
also friendly reminder generally recommended to spoiler unit names that are running in a month, ESPECIALLY in subject of pulling
for sake of fellow zenners
It would be nice if that were spoilered, yes
but in a way it's a good warning about pulling when you don't have a pity 
sadly, not too many players have an inch of willpower to save a pity
the first pity is always the hardest
and all they can do is cry in pity
Yoloing is high risk high reward
once in a while, I would laugh at their misery
There are certainly benefits for it
there's no need to be an asshole about it
90% of gamblers quit before they hit big lol
usually rewardless though
saving is very difficult when people are being tempted with constant meta banners
it's discord, everyone is an asshole
to an extend
plus i only do it people i generally dislike
Same reason as me, waiting for my actual electric faves to bolster my roster... zeraora, xurkitree, raikou, miraidon, raging bolt, sandy shocks 
I mean according to probability there's a high chance you'll win with enough tries
So like
Thundurus
It isn't necessarily an evil fully
always plan for the worst around here 
True 
It's a game, not trading stocks
The worst that can happen is you don't get what you want
and thats what zenners try to avoid
if only i can translate that to stock picking skills

important to remember
As opposed to losing your life savings
i would be fairly rich
And there's no "pity" in "investment" anyway
So people that yolo should not whine, you attempted it with fully known what to expect so don't hope for people's sympathy or dragging others to follow your footsteps
Yoloers go in to Yolo with the full expectation that you don't get the unit
Actually an interesting point is why is there a gem saving and not a yolo thread
its human nature to complain
yolo thread is poma lounge dw
that's #salt-channel
They should enjoy general pools, they probably got those a bunch more than limited pairs 
Appreciate the general pool pairs
Utilise it to their full potential
All hail Ramos
I gonna use my 5* ramos in grass hse
We don't have to be sympathetic to those who YOLO or pull without a pity, but there's also no need to kick them while they're down
then take it out of here
True, i agree...no need to lower other people's when they are feeling misery
What if a person you kinda hate yolos and then if they don't get it they spend until they get it
Can I kick those people when they're down
not in here you can't
luckily
there are no people in this thread i dislike
I just gonna say you deserve it in my heart, no need to wrote and let them know, they deserve it
You making a bad day, worse
all of them are in pocecord generelly
so you ban anyone who are assholes, got it
that's what Rule 1 is for 
Well thats their problem even if they use their parents money...they getting scold or leave the game due to their repercussions are all due to their actions...doesnt concern me and my family
naturally people get into debates and get angry at each other but overall yes, if someone is being vehemently nasty to other users we will moderate
we want y'all to have fun here š
Hey guys Iām saving my field candy for whenever i get Wallace
Plenty people leave poma especially if things didn't go what they wanted or the dev doesnt give what they expected, we can just give motivation
Santos.....are you lost????
Im doing the same santos
Had me thinking I was in the wrong channel for a sec 
Too risky to try for 2/5 wallace when half anni is around the corner
i'm not convinced you're in the right one


Anywag

Plus we kinda get 4- 5 yellow candies on average monthly
Any good games you guys are playing

I need to take my mind off PoMa
TF2
Yes, Pokemon Masters EXā¢ļø, by DeNA
Thatās a topic for a different channel
Honkai star rail
I love candy coin system
Makes me able to save
True

Tough luck for other gacha games when you wanted dupes
The only time I ever get the temptation to pull for dupes is if i want to 5/5 a fave
Especially to unlock their full power
Otherwise waiting 3-4 months is easy
Candies are so good
If it's true that we could be losing the 2k/month BV gems, saving will become even more critical
as will being selective with your pulls
I kinda worry about the new game mode especially seeing it have different difficulties and it replaces BV
BV is easy, thats a good part plus give plenty gems
What if my roster can only do easy difficulty
So the gems getting cut? 
that's like every server, so its the mods discretion on how to abuse it

I just pulled select scouts
i spent lavishly Tai...there goes my 80+ day of orbs bundle 
Still better than 3 pities i guess
But 15k paid does stings
15k paids is rough but if you got units you wanted, it's fine
plus you're supporting the game
True i guess especially seeing recent pairs in there, so unless its MF or collab pairs, might can just wait for select scouts on anniv to get them cheaper if needed
santos in gem zen chat
he's lost, don't worry
2024 is proving to be a miracle
Santos can be here, didnt he want to save field candy instead of pulling for dupes...thats a great zen move 
Ask him if he even has another Field unit outside of E-Victor 
I thought ||he pulled nywallace||
not yet i don't think
Hard to form field/sprint candy...i start to consider yellow candy as sprint/field as they formed quite fast as well, around 4/5 months
Like this month there's 6 yellow coins
6 because tlim doesn't include lodge and stones shop
After how many no of reruns and new faves in a list do you guys think it becomes too much
Hard to answer that, like i joined this game late like a year late and during that time, i need to chase N, Gloria, Lysandre for reruns and i cleared em all...so i think clear your rerun list first before adding more new faves because if not later both categories will become bigger and bigger as the newly added faves that you didn't manage to get will become new rerun units
If you are lacking gems might can also consider filter same type faves and grab those that can help cover your lacking type coverage first
I'm not really lacking in type coverage except rock and fairy
Rock isn't really too much of a problem because I can just 3/5 my rose or cblue
Fairy is a problem
But I don't have any fairy faves
This is what the fave list currently looks like
Too many faves ik.but I'm having a hard time cancelling any of em cuz they are all pity worthy to me
adding more salt and pepper? nice
If your fave trainers are those, you shouldn't have that rerun category that are not trainers that you put in your fave list... having a fave trainer list, means you are getting them and not others, as trainers can easily be 3 or more versions of themselves especially if they are popular
|| I thought you wanted ssac not sstr? ||
+anni
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Damn, two months means that we can probably expect only 46k if weāre lucky. Better save up
How many gems do we get tomorrow?

Ah. Ok.
Most of the non trainer reruns are there cuz I like the outfit
Should I cut it down further?
||With less gems coming to us; I've developed a ridiculous plan to keep my gem count in check||
This month is Jan: ||Jan is the month where I pull on Master Fairs: why? I get my spending itch out of the way early and I can get MFs I was on the fence about earlier||
Then I prep for each anniversary and ALWAYS have a pity ready for SC Diantha
There is actually a voice in my head that always dictates the actions I take in this game: with my obession with sports, I named him "The Chairman" who has to individually approve each spending decision I make. With him in charge of my spending for the last three months I have not been allowed to spend 25 gems on PM Day Happy Scout.
The voices in my head make up reasons to pull random characters
"yeah!this guy has got Pikachu!you obviously like him!that's a good enough reason to splurge!give into your intrusive thoughts and pull on this pair who isn't even on your fave list!"
They are especially active after gambling dopamine activated
ok now i have to save for adamans rerun + 4.5 anni
i have to pray for a feb skip month
Atleast the Pikachu units are good.
but that shouldn't be your only reason?
and just because a cool outfit shouldn't make the unit part of your list, it just adds more clutter
Anyways, Gem count
tryin to get back into the game than before so I got a lot of the gems I didn't bother to collect
Depends if you feel that your fave list is too big, check how many of your fave trainer category that you already got first as there's like 5 blue or something and morty also has a bunch. I dont mind the pokemon list much, i only worry if they actually appear as even if they appear, they will go to rerun list if you dont manage to get them...the current rerun list is the one that you need to slim it down because its not the trainer you like and also the pokemon you like, so will you be happy if you get them? Are you willing to spend 36.6k for them? Are you happy just by having them although they are no longer meta or strong? All of those things need to be considered before actually putting them in rerun list because sometimes while chasing rerun, those pairs started to become outdated as new pairs that can do better stuffs than them will appear so if you truly want them after considering all of those factors, only then put into rerun list
at this point, if people have a big fav list like this and have seasonals on their rerun list, it should prob be select-only type of list for the seasonals IMO at best
cause 0.25% or something and getting worse every year, youre prob pitying for a seasonal if its not the one for that year
||i forgot to check event shop for unit specific
oops. guess im stuck with unusable orbs in my inventory cause i already gridded the unit||
Yep need to consider more for seasonal their kit will get outdated over time as they wont get 5/5 grid treatment or power boost plus their rerun banner will also worsen so might cost you a pity
yeah seasonals tend to be the fastest to be crept on average from what ive seen, and even if you see someone before pity, its probably not the one you wanted for rerun banners.
so for those especially its either swallow the 36.6k pricetag or paid
a select someday
dont think we've seen any free handouts for seasonals either, so unlike stuff like og N theres prob not gonna be that to look forward to either
To avoid this, i don't claim exclusive sync orbs anymore, especially due to im already swimming in those normal orbs š
fair, i might just skip this event's orbs due to it, although im not certain if 108k orbs is enough to not run into another orb shortage on stuff like hse and lg (and the upcoming roguelike mode if that uses our grids, which it prob does id bet)
i am 100% gonna be addicted to the new gamemode if its any good cause i simp for roguelike games 
thats like one of the top 3 genres i buy on steam
3d platformers and roguelikes are easily up there, idk what the third one is exactly. apparently i played alot of survival this year but thats just cause terraria is GOATed for someone like me xD
so kinda throws off my top genres when i dont play it much outside of that one
Once you get to a certain point you never have to buy event orbs anymore haha
yo youāre also a Terraria player?
Yup. Usually play death or eternity modes the most
For upcoming game mode, im interested for this part the most...its the closest system like artifact or relic effect in poma, although it can only be used in the new game mode but it can give birth to guides like vampire Lysandre using the lifesteal item for this game mode or something...well it can boost faves, or other example like using OG clair while using item that give rain effect at start...cannot wait to see interesting stuffs from it 
Im at like 200k and im going to stop grabbing them, all my units are alr fully gridded
The other thing that they said that certain roles give bonus points and even cake roles give points give advantage to people that have a bunch of pairs so it doesn't interest me much as whales benefit from it the most...but beneficial items is nice 
victor as the only free field pair and i think zero free sprint pairs? š
but it's just bonus points anyway so hopefully it's not too big of a deal
I got a free sprint pair because i got archer from the free ticket 
you can argue that field/sprint give you extra CSMM points because free params XD
haha I also got Archer, but yeah it's not guaranteed
Archer bros š¤
Still waiting for a truly sprint fave pair to appear...well i guess ncrosa counts as half of sprint as i gave her the cake
i have my sprint fave already (rei), no field pairs interest me yet
||unless you count NC Nate but i haven't even caked him lol||
Truthfully i like the original 3 roles more than the new ones, like their place in the game is still ambiguous. Would love it more if field and sprint EX effect refreshes with every sync and not just one
More roles were needed (and I think we got those too late)
Techs were taking too much space, not to mention their release amount was crazy
The new roles may feel a but off bcs the old ones are broken af, give them time to powercreep or get new mechanics
And it's all good for us, we're getting more candy coins
Kinda true like recent sprint pairs kinda deal good damage, nemona got short end of the stick as DeNa doesn't know if they should give good sync damage to sprint back then
Well lucas spectrier too but he is free so wont mind much
Techs are like⦠what? Field effects, sync accel, debuffs, status/interference?
Yep, but now i think techs mainly focus on debuffs
Oh and high single target sync nuke
Has anyone looked into how much it would cost Poce to keep up his pulls every month like the way he does?
He gets like 40K from the game a month for being a partner
Plus heās a giga whale I think, he maxed his card live on the SS Mina stream
Itās easier to check back on his streams, see how many gems he spends, and convert it to IRL currency from one month, then calculate the cost
But I think he said ||he spent $800 CAD on SS Lysandre alone. Yikes.||
I trust he is from Shanghai then š
Heās from Canada, I think British Columbia
Yea I mean his parents
That pays nearly all of my bills for a month
The Team Flare entry fee!


How do you spend so much on a gacha game. Honestly... I've only spent about $20 USD on PMEX.
Why not ask - How much are they worth to spend that much on a gacha.
Your friend is giving this game a fighting life š®
That's Poce lmao
That $800 is going for rent and food lol
Not Masters
I have spent around $300 CAD on the game and that's been since 2nd anni till now (and I never spent before the 3k paid gem bundle appeared)
Save with us 
I am!
at least my free gems
Oh naw...
I thought this was supposed to be the saving thread but now weāre just sharing our bad spendings.
I don't think so, people are sharing their spending in comparison to heavy spending. It's a resource saving thread, discussion on how to moderate spending should be fine.
tbf, this is about using actual money
Pokemon Masters is still a gambling simulator with Pokemon elements in the gacha format
awareness of spending real money (or how to spend if you aren't F2P) is good advice in itself, as well as the dangers of spending a lot of money on pixels since we do not own any content of the game. It can eos at any moment

this is always something that baffles me greatly when I see people spend so much on mobile games in general, it'll go poof when EoS happens, granted it's a bit like spending to go watch a movie or whatever, it's intangible and only for entertainment, but the amounts... that's quite a difference to note 
This reading is melting my brain.
We don't know how much disposable income people have at their fingertips, so
Some of y'all could be secret millionaires 
I wish.
Bruh you shared your spending first after ppl were talking about Poce 
Btw spening more than you doesn't mean it's a bad spending
Idk where you saw someone telling bad tips abt managing paid gems
Hence why we dont offer advice about buying paid gems, just the most efficient ways to spend them
And if people wanna spend some change on their silly little phone games that bring them joy, who cares
Are those that keep the game running, I'm thankful to them

Def not me

Well, according to my calculations.

It's me, I'm the secret billionaire. Don't be jealous 
I dont care about others spending, they are making the game living longer
Buy me a villa thanks
šāāļø
Imagine spending in a gacha game 
Imagine not spending in a gacha game.
Imagine judging on how people spending
(Shots fired.)
as long as it is disposable income and not you putting your financial security or anyone under your care in danger, then who cares
Fr
I donāt count another persons bank account. There are people with much more money than me and people with nothing. If someone wants to spend on a gacha then be my guest honesty
it's still outrageous to me to think about it but people are still free to do whatever they want
||You mean like that one kid that spent over $20k on Fortnite stuff?||
I'll never understand people who judge others for something as harmless as dropping some coin on a silly phone game
Sorry they can afford it?
damn
They keep the game alive, but as usual. Spend within your means
No spenders, no game y'all
Irl resource saving support 
Fair point.
Every gacha company tryna be Mr. Krabs
billionaires can be gamers too
Can some billionaires whale on PMEX please that would be great
Ye.
"Stop spending"
"Okay"
Donāt even need to billionaires
Tai on the way to ask a billionaire for bribes to DeNA for more Kalos pairs
Im only a millionaire unfortunately || if you count poma coins ||
Btw 40k from partnership sound quite low considering how much he's spending
It's a only-single-pulls pity 
But I guess they have other partners, JP community probably
To be honest. Poce deserves a perm increased pull rate the way he spends
Would be hilarious
Who is Poce again?
This unit is bad: pulls 5/5
Imagine 4% on PF perm š

Fr but like. As long as no one is judging each other it's all good
A youtuber, partner witht poma that does mostly poma content
Let the whales whale and the F2Ps F2P, there's plenty of reasons why people might not wanna spend
Thereās a dif between not pulling a unit and saying its bad vs maxing out a unit and saying its bad 
I mean. Half the banners are mainly F2P.
Well, until now.
At least he knows by experience
I only spend around 46 usd a year for masters 
Im an anchovy
I gonna send feedback to DeNa, why most NPC pairs are kalos...give other regions some stuffs too 
They got great trainer classes
I 'd like to see the Kalos tourists
i was f2p since into the third anniversary. and has been charging before the Holiday 2023. I've dropped around ||640 USD|| already .-./
Kalos veterans are banger 
Fr gen 6 including ORAS have many of my favorite NPC trainer classes
they dont have voices yet š¦
One of my favourite tongue-in-cheek moments in XY was Gamefreak adding a bunch of tourists
they were a v fun trainer class
I need to make some corrections, i spent 58 usd a year 
For poma
I forgot that daily orb bundle is every 20 days instead of a month
So thats around 54k paid gems a year
If I like a character purely out of nostalgia is it a true fave or a phantom?
I like red cuz I used to play frlg a lot and he brings nostalgia but don't know any other defining characteristics about him
That's bring another possible phantom fave
Ncbede
Do not care about his character,i actually hate him
Only care about garticuno who is my top 15 fave pokemon
But in my fave list Ive only chosen top 7 and garticuno isn't a part of that
Is it a phantom
this game is way more focused on the trainers than the mons, i would not go anywhere near a trainer you dislike
Ok last question
When does good fashion become a phantom fave
Because that comprises half my rerun list
And i suspect one or two or phantom faves whose outfits just bedazzled me in the moment
But idk
i'd go for Trainer > Pokemon >= Kit > Outfit.
So i wouldn't pull for a trainer i dislike even if they have a good outfit, or have a fav pokemon because another trainer can have that pokemon.
I have exactly 3K. Iām tempted lmao
And knowing my luck, thatās exactly whatāll happen
if you're used to multying the second you get 3k, i get that it's hard
Well it's not about dislike
I'm just neutral on them
Fall allister,summer steven and alillie
but if you can avoid temptation and let your balance grow, you'll have a much better experience
Too true.
I don't really feel anything about Lillie or allister
"kinda like" should cancel him from your list immediately
same with Lillie and Allister
they sound like characters you'd end up regretting, bc you're not overly interested other than the outfit
which you won't even see in the battle
What about outfit+pokemon
since i know you're trying to cut your list down, i'd cull anyone who wasn't a winner in trainer + pokemon + outfit
you want the trifecta
Hmm
well if you have a lot of gems you can be more flexible. But if it's not a fav make sure you will use them
Ok that's summer steven,fall allister and alillie out
That leaves nywallace,asteven and scjasmine for reruns
3 is much easier to work with
Nywallace shouldn't be a problem because i have 1 year for him
Asteven will take 1.5 yrs
Scjasmine idk
another user is waiting for an SC from that batch and they haven't rerun (on a free scout) in a while
so she could be unpredictable

My main issue is that DeNA loves to go for the FOMO approach
all gacha do
it's why you need to become deaf to the hype (i know it's easier said than done
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And Iām pretty sure I have nearly every gen pool unit maxed out
You are lucky...i still have 4 0/5 general pool pairs 
would be way more worth it than anything this month or the next
Im missing hugh and olypmia
adaman rerun pls 
0/5 melony, drasna, ryuki, lenora 
||I donāt care much for SST Red, but NC!Rosa is where Iāve been spending gems||
(just make sure you spoiler if you're talking about pulling on an available banner)
Oh, my bad!
all g
||how far into the scout are you?||
The fear of waiting a whopping 1 year for him Is a little tempting on me
||he destroyed my gems|| 
so im in extreme saving now
skipping feb if possible
||203 pity on the standard banner, 36 on the paid only||
I have 3k rn
it's a good time to start hunkering down, considering 4.5 is close
yeah
Yeah
||have you had a look in the pins here to see if you'll get the gems you need to pity her before she leaves? she's still around a while yet||
i have 1 pity now so i only need one more to be safe for 4.5
||since you're actively pulling on a banner my advice changes a bit, ahaha||
i've never pulled 3 anni pairs, 2 max
I hope we get shiny primal groudon or shit DM/DW for 4.5
||oh no, I havenāt||
i haven't pulled an anni pair since 3rd anni
the 2023 birdies were so boring to me
it's either that with hoen nc or volo
||it's worth doing the calcs to check, since you've already committed a decent amount of gems the best thing to do would be to see if you'll have enough for pity before she leaves and if so, keep going||
I forgot who volo was
I hope not many faves on February and march...having less than 100k gems made me feel uneasy 
I have a few faves who would suit Palentines very well, so I'm a little nervous about next month 
Palentines lance/ethan/sycamore/lysandre/morty would kill me on the spot
alas, no boys allowed
oh true palentine. At least im safe for that because it's always females
inb4 first white day's pairs
The past MF faves trio are not so kind, both trio costs me 2 and a half pities each....well could be worse, but 90.8k does stings
White day sycamore/lysandre 
||I just checked the pin, I should be fine? I just bought a 3K bundle to see how I go on the paid banner, but in ten resets Iāll be back to 3K because I got the streak bundle a while back||
tbh they knocked it out of the park with W Sycamore, they could easily put some popular boys/men in nice outfits for white day
but we will see....
Inb4 they do white day raihan
White Day Kukui, make it happen DeNA
well they've gradually adding relevance to white day so it's not impossible
I hope its white day, i think they should start to alternate between white day and palentine
||just make sure every single gem, paid and free, is going into the banner with the most scout points - you don't want to end up missing her because you split gems between two banners||
2022 was an event, 2023 was a boys only rerun banner
||Duly noted. And if I somehow get her before pity, Iāll put my efforts into Red||
Red will likely last until datamine
||I'd probably start saving after that, but they're your gems and you can use them as you want
and obviously don't use the paids on the free banner if you'll earn enough frees to pity her!||
||of course lmao||
Oh right we keep worrying about half anni but april is scary too as it usually has special costume event... 4 limited to get in a month is harsh especially when all of the sc are your faves 
SC right after half anni 

I still got 0 Palentine fave, i kinda hate if i get one next month
For now
New year - 1
Palentine - 0
Spring - 0
Summer - 2
Fall - 1
Xmas - 1
they don't tend to use legendaries, etc for pals so I think you're fine
it'll be a pair of cute regular pokemon, as always
Magearna and Manaphy kinda related to heart 
Magearna is 100% going to NC Lillie, you're safe there
Manaphy....
still feel like they'll save it for something bigger
I thought a certain water specialist gym leader/Champion from Hoenn would steal it. Yet here we are
It gonna go to silver, because he feels weird at first that what Eusine give to him is a pokemon egg...the only different shape egg in pokemon world is a manaphy egg 
tbh I like that Pals focuses on cute normal pokemon, we can't have legendaries all the time
we're gunna run out!
Nihilego is cute, palentine Lillie 
I am proud to say my rerun list is one shorter
||I got a little too lucky on SSTR||
she is 100% getting an alt this year
and I EX'ed him Tai 
i still think it's gunna be NC
she's Big Stupid Masterfair levels of popular, they won't waste her on something mid
Nice rerun list improvements 
I kinda hate Lillie existence here, because of her, there's no selene alt
sad to see female protag being treated like this
I'm in utter shock that we haven't seen a Lillie or Cynthia alt in a good bit
Doesnt concern about elio much, well male protag always get treated like this
Lillie is the new Nate fr
Lillie magearna, selene zeraora, elio melmetal 
idt its because of her 
i mean lyra exists but kris still got her MF
If Selene gets shiny zeraora I'm gonna have to stop saving
Well both lyra and kris got MF and both are female protags....lillie is just a side character but because she's popular, selene got shoved away 
and marnie is the lillie of galar but that doesnt stop gloria from getting tons of alts
That just means both gloria and marnie are popular
Lillie is too popular that she even pop up in kanto VA and remove leaf from it
Marnie fans aren't as obsessive
Lillie fandom is wild in jp
since i hit most of my previous tierlist's goals i thought i might make one in this style too! does this need cutting down
most dangerous thing in the waters upcoming is the possibility of hisui overload, unova will probably get a break because it just had NC
It looks nice, you focus on characters you like and categorize them...the rerun list is also not big
Oh right maybe hisui alts will be appearing soon, as the mysterious stones chapter seems to be hisui related
Someone must have the origin palkia and dialga
curious also if they'll release the minor characters for hisui, since they didn't give it a separate theme skill
eg the wardens
its possible as pokefairs maybe? probably not spotlight
sinnoh is already pretty loaded though
Well no problem i guess as seeing variety is also an option now
ah right š Variety Wardens Bin
Even bp master pairs are on the table seeing that we will run out of chatelaines soon
They can just make bug teamwork lian kleavor
true š¤ the good timeline
Although i have small hope for hisui tag to appear, but seeing rei and akari didn't get it diminished my hope
hisui tag would mess up irida and adaman's master passives wouldnt it
Could just make the passive work for 2 regions
Also can pave way for the eventual sinnoh NC pairs
true (ah i forgot to add barry to the list he belongs in the third category)
Nc barry heatran 
all psychic lake trio
We are still missing uxie, azelf, heatran, manaphy, phione, arceus
True if they ramp up mysterious stones story on February, i can see sinnoh NC happening on half anni with the MF is a mix between sinnoh and hisui characters
And real anni later release paldea MF 
and arceus itself gets powercrept by motorcycle lizards
Well if it got gladion ginmick but with actual good stats, it will be a long time for it to get powercrept
true. especially if they give field or something similar
Especially now with 15k cs where most people took standard damage reduction params so making it better to clear ontype
like hilbert with the rebuff (for limited types)
I think it will be rebuff, 18 field zones feels chaotic
But rebuff is not a problem as sc steven is exactly that
zones are also more conflicting and less versatile
True especially when its separate between weather, terrain and zone
Like hail and ice zone...ice zone boost ice damage but hail doesn't but they are hail specific grids that boost damage
When is 4.5 anni again?
March
+anni
Poma's 4.5 Year Anniversary events happen <t:1709100000:R>, <t:1709100000:f>
Poma's 5th Anniversary events start <t:1724824800:R>, <t:1724824800>

||Got ssa in 2 multis|| so now I'm gonna save as much as I can for sst and/or 4.5 anni
congrats! but pls spoil pull results
will do next time
You can edit your message now, you know.
Because people will see it, and itās better to spoil that existing message.
alrighty
Does gather up dream duo only have 400 gems if i cleared it last year
yes
Updated my favelist to add one extra rerun
I forgot about vlance
And i need him for lancemax
So now it's 4 reruns
But there is breathing room for all of em
A good amount of it
the Dream Duo situation was accounted for already in the gem count for this month, right?
Yes
Ah dang, Rosa is definitely bait if 4.5 anniversary is coming
I am going to have to never use my candies on any non meta pair ever to reach my Candying goals
That's a lot of stuff, are you sure you can manage it?
(Considering new pairs and so)
i need to do this
lots of techs i want to candy 
Maybe
It depends
If my faves get a ton of alts I won't 5/5 anyone who isn't in the max list or a serious fave
I just skip 5/5 even if its fave, a limited fave getting 5/5 means another limited fave stuck at 1/5
Iāve held true to 3/5. Vast majority of these 5/5ās peak there
And many are perfectly fine at 1/5
Same. Some my favs stuck at 1/5.
ive still got a sizable fav candy list remaining... ones not marked are 1/5
Strike: Anniversary2021 Lillie (2/5), LuSSamine -Lower Fav Gap- ChMarnie, ChRed -Freebie Dupe
- N & Zekrom
Tech (probably my smallest role RN that has big favs): SSN (2/5), GlorAlt2, PSerena (2/5, only if I want her 3/5 tiles in future else she stays here)
Support: ChCalem, -Fav Gap- ||SSACynthia mostly for crit focus if Koraidon somehow doesn't selfcrit, Fighting tends to be self sufficient on crit tho tbh||


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