#Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)
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I'm metronoming between wanting to pull something and not wanting to pull anything
Here's a way for you to stop that crave.
#pull-simulator
if you pull you have to 20/20 Acerola
-I have better luck there then in the actual game
Mine is on 10 too
Anabel battle this reset, nvm Steel gear is more important 
So true!!

Even though I've already developed great Skill Gear for my Steel attackers
I havent mess with skill gear aside from the rainbow feathers
...i did try before but stopped after knowing that I can only use 2 ever pins on the gear 
can't wait to see the variety of sync pairs in co-op again 
Gonna bring my Tate 
True
Can’t wait to see people fighting for Zone in coop. 
Looking at how my teams had went for CS this week made me realize one thing btw. I really need a fighting favorite someday.
I think fighting weak is the last type I really have to even put thought into in kanto cs. And I’d love to just be able to turn my brain off for kanto lol
Fighting Koraidon cmon DeNa 
Try doing the opposite, use yellow feather to get random stuff and save rainbow for later/finishing
Sadly rainbow feathers with no optimization are extremely mid
Yeah
If you don't scout it's guaranteed
I mean it's all rewards
Even if you do low score
At least get the gems lol
Yeah just run through it and get the score you get
0 strength optimise a win is a win
Don’t show that kind of image here please.
Now presenting: an example of a very bad pull/save for list (does not include Paldea yet)
I see some great characters in there 
Rough
Seeing that tierlist: 

Tai said he'd help me figure out how to save, I wonder if he's gonna just be disappointed when he sees
I'm unfortunately way too indecisive to make a tier list
I had to play pretty fast and loose to make this one or else I would have been stuck for ages
Chezei, join me in the no favs players 


no paldeans chezei?
If it’s the one I think they used I don’t think it has paldean in the template
I remember looking for the sv professors and couldn’t find them
Yeah
I haven't gotten around to putting the Paldeans into it yet, but when I do, Juliana, Nemona, Penny, Iono, Poppy, and Perrin will be up there too
And that's not even getting into the Pokémon that I'd pull for like Pumpkaboo, Ogerpon, and Jirachi

its not too many more than mine (until you add the paldeans)

I can only make list of reruns I want 
You definitely need to reduce the number of characters in there
you've got way too many popular ones, that probably doesn't help at all
Basically all the female protags....that's probably going to steal your gems real quick
any chance that list could be reduced?
lol i decided to try anabel fight and i couldnt even get to phase 2
prob not gonna bother with it till i grab the fav that fights made for unless a different team is found before then
They definitely have stolen my gems a few times
I do think I can be a bit more picky with my selections, maybe by grouping them into "must pull" and "pull with caution" or something along those lines
That would just leave me at my current list 
ill prob be shuffling around some trainers when i next look at this list tbh, especially if paldeans get added
Are you 100% sure you would instantly pull on literally all these characters?
Are there a few that are more on Dawn's level? That might help you narrow it down
Anything inside of the top two tiers for me tend to be unskippables on the trainer side of things. Second tier is mostly me being like “if they’re competing with those above I might have my hand forced” lol
agree, my top two rows are pretty much always ready to go but anything beneath is “depends on the outfit/mon/kit”
i didn’t pull vagatha or lorelei for example (give them proper alts please)
The only reason I even had to do rerun chasing in first place was cause had some alts of my favs that came out during a hiatus. I’m just glad to not have to worry about like 99% of reruns after this month. Most likely will do a cleanup sweep off selects for the most part next year.
Speaking of, two resets till I can buy my next bundle I think
Cause got two gem days left
I suppose some would depend on the rest of the pair info and outfit, like Cami was saying. That would definitely help narrow it down
Yeah, try to do it that way! There's definitely a difference between "pull at any costs" and "maybe if the kit/outfit slaps"
Okay, I think this is a little bit better as a second pass-through. I also decided to include the blue tier this time because there are a handful of characters that haven't made an appearance yet that I would like to see. Some other notes about it:
Still doesn't feature the Paldean units, but Juliana, Nemona, Penny, Iono, Poppy, and Perrin (edit: also Carmine and Lacey) would be somewhere in the green tier and a few others would be somewhere in the blue tier
This list doesn't separate Tate and Liza and likely neither would DeNA, but for the purposes of my list, Liza is actually up in the green tier
Characters who either haven't appeared or have been in the game for a while and haven't gotten fun new outfits not variety would likely go up in priority if they appeared, though maybe not by a full tier
That's definitely looking better!
#1010275375730925638 message
This is my list of must-pulls, as a comparison
Looks like with your new list you've got similar numbers in that tier now 
This should help me learn to save a bit better. Thanks Tai! 

Just remember you can come here whenever you get tempted
And there's also no shame if you end up pulling
this is just a game after all
True that! 
Chezei's list 
Chezei saving? 
Chezei saving
Chezei saving!
I already have them anyway 
I’d say narrow down the top two tiers tbh
What’s the difference between top tier and “insta-pull”?
Because to me they kinda blend together imo
top tier
if I have like
at least 20k
Or 15k
Insta pull
Just use all my gems
That’s not saving: that’s chucking gems at the wall.
Sorry to burst your bubble but pulling should only occur at either 36.6K gems or if you know you can hit pity when the banner leaves.
This is what the top of your tier list should look like: it cuts off the nebulous top tier vs. insta pull gap
I won't lie and say saving is easy. But I will say it gets easier after the first pity.
does it
yes
absolutely
It got much easier after I passed 100K
I don't really want to pull at all
I have no reason to
Yep, the more you save the easier it gets
You don't really need them, many of the free and gen pool pairs work very well
Remember that with a low gem count you likely won't be able to pull many new characters anyway
(I get it though, being new can be a bit rough sometimes!)
that's right
im saving up lol
Saving to 36.6 is the mathematically best way of collecting characters
Never pull for dupes I suppose
well I do also want to win some stages 🤩
That is generally possible with just the free units
Selective sync grid and EX application will be a boost
oo
well on another hand theres anabel
But we have like
900 days to complete it—I think?
Ignore that, even old players are having troubles clearing her
Also consider the reward amount
You won't burn your gems for 300 gem reward
It's 900 years to complete it
It's a permanent mode that you don't have to rush to complete
Yep
right
Its permanent content
So there is zero rush
right
we'll be on generation 100 by then
TPC still using XY models
Yep.
very possible with FTP units. Most content (other than Anabel's hell) has some way to clear it without limited units.
I hope so!
well Anabel's turned out to be very hellish
every other stage has some ftp/gen pool fudge clear
The stage hasn’t even been out for 1% of its lifetime, just be patient 
but we only have until Wednesday, Jan 1st, 3000 to complete it
when Gakon gets a NY alt in the year 3000, it's time to speedrun finishing it
Hey how come gakon gets an alt but not rich boy winston 
you'll get your alt in 2099

Srry I meant 335/336
Same, i tried for more than an hour and i gave up, not worth it to stress over 
got to tick off three pairs last month! saving pays off :D plus this month is a skip so right on track for 2-3 possible december pairs
Nice compact list
goodluck
A very nice gem count!

aaaaaa
doing great!
thank uu
I just calculated how much USD my gem count is worth. It's around 1,100 USD.
This is why we save: to avoid dropping these kind of sums on gems (my calcs aren't based off of bundles)
What were your 3 biggest regret pulls and why.
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Emmet - i pulled him as it was the first ever 3* gear event and im scared that people will be mad at me as i only have brock and ssbrock also no olivia.
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palmarnie - i pulled her not due to fave but because swept by the zone meta and thought that she can boost gloria, hop, solgaleo but then i realised, i not gonna spend move candies on non faves so she gonna stay 1/5.
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Palbea - because ice supports in that time is kinda mid like Glacia, and i thought she will be nice with hleon because she give pmun and have hail stuffs but not a fave
So in conclusion, just stick with fave and be rewarded...now i have Regice, Black Kyurem and Articuno for ice, also Jirachi and Registeel for steel...i should just waited and maybe saved myself around 60k gems
I don't regret any pulls in this game, partly because it's just a game
and when i started the game, SS Leon was the banner and I spent 21k gems for him but I didn't know what I pity was at the time
since it was my first day in the game in almost 2 years lol
Oh right i guess Emmet still has potential to be lodge guest, in that case, i will feel less regret
But those palentines, alt wont be lodge guest ...
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SS Elesa- I pity her back in her debut and on hindsight should have waited.
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Maybun- I didn’t even get her and I wasted 18k gems which sets me back for months and forces me to skip on the weather duo and have to wait 14 months for them.
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Christmas Leon- so useless at 1/5 that i felt ripped off
Thank you thank you team some good learnings for me 😂
Oh right, better to use Hala instead of 1/5 hleon 
I was too stubborn to candy him until a year later
Yeah currently he is bench right now when i have better ice types now in red
Im trying to forget anabel extreme battle existence, i was stressed out for whole day and today i make peace, i just gonna chill and do it in the future...its only 300 gems
Same, i usually rotate between pairs especially for fave typings that i already have a bunch...like psychics
At least with ebe, its kinda easy when you have the right region
And just focus on getting the best unit of each region to cover my bases
300 gems is nbd
Hoping for Eve and eeveelutions eggmons to arrive soon to cheer up my mood
Vantner, don't let the battle affect you
I even out of
now because im EXing pairs to try anabel and yet still fail, oh right i even lost my ww3 on May because i changed it to cs2 for anabel fight
it's a standard gacha frustration mechanic
I heard somewhere before where you complete difficult and frustrating missions/ game, get minuscule rewards
Now i need to wait for next Gauntlet to give her back ww3
I have made peace with my sub-300k HS run lol
I’m waiting for the month to end so i can get feel hype about it next month
Felt the month is kinda dead
Just login, collect gems, and bail
Same, but eeveelutions eggmon and eve are kinda hype too...so at least i can still look into that
Yeah
I hope we have 30k gems
I have plenty of gems saved up
i don't even have interest in most units, but i get bored
discord community keeps me vested
I am waiting for ny select scout
Same
yeah i'm gonna save some paid gems and see what's up
Well cheaper than pity in mix scout at least
I use mix scout when i have extra paid gems to throw in
because it's another source of income so i think we'll still have select scouts
They are usually 5k select, mix scout need 30k paid to pity
I have some units i want for ny
i don't think there are any seasonals i'm interested in atm
Im making my other non 3/5 faves to 2/5 in preparation for select, at least there will be more chance for my fave to appear in bunch of selects...like i need to skip some selects in the past, because my faves in it is already 3/5
Hoping for sshilda/eusine/tapu bulu/tapu fini/tapu lele on ny 
Although some might say getting dupes from selects are kinda bad, but i have to realise that i have a bunch of faves so in order to realistically 3/5 them cheaper and in good duration...i need to depend on selects 
Well at least, I didn't chase 5/5 using selects other than the free ones given by DeNa
i mean, as long as you can afford it, which i know you can
I cannot afford mix scout though if i keep pulling every single day...900 daily is kinda pricy
50 points a month is much more manageable
So can still pity if needed before new rotation
i pull that sometimes, but prob no more of that till there's confirmation of select scout options
and lately irl i've been stressed so pulling is the better evil than some other options to manage it
but i think i will stop because of the january selects
Hurm but i wonder if i should grab unique variety pairs like ball guy, ariana, petrel, proton if select happens well they are kinda special...i guess so, but other lazy no new outfit variety are a skip
if dena are too lazy to create sync move animations, then no pull
no ex outfit no pull
kinda sad that now there's 2 spotlight with generic sync...lenora and ryuki
, oh wait does drasna and olympia got unique sync?
if i ever synced with them, i would be able to tell you 
I got olympia but she's only 2/5, i kinda reluctant to use non fave if they are not 3/5 unless there's an event where they got boosted drop rates or something
Still 0 drasna, melony, lenora, ryuki
think melony is in the galar ticket?
she is yeah
if you have a stash saved up, worth giving it a go.
if you have saved over a year worth of tickets, worst case is another 
I pulled each time i form 30 tickets
, it does helps me to resist yolo-ing

actually not sure
How much does a full legendary arena give?
like part 1 to part 3
+freegems
Short version
In-Depth version
Gem Total : 51,960 
1100 per arena (counting normal/hard/very hard difficulties)
more than a pity
if you need help you can head to #1009562367803261078
maybe in a bit
- SS Ethan when he first ran - spent 5 multis on him back when my only limiteds were Kantrio, got shafted; on the bright side, that experience taught me (for a while) to not pull without a pity
- ||pulling for SS Roxie with 4 multis instead of just waiting for the dual Fire HS banner, where both of the featured pairs were bigger wants||
- NC Serena maybe
Og Diantha, SS Hilbert and probably lillietea
LuSSa Necrozma, SummerSteven Sandslash-A, and Leon Charizard by far
ss giovanni is one of em
pulled for type coverage
he’s not fun to use at all
and i don’t want to candy him either because i don’t like giovanni
got diantha from a select scout instead of classic elesa because of type coverage as well
Meh, it's a good unit. 1/5 Giovanni is nice, i like it a lot better than Garchomp for CSMM
other than them i can’t really say i regret much?
maaaaybe maxie since i spent a pity on him when he reran but he works really well with courtney and ss acerola so idk
he’s fun and i like maxie
||maybe penny is also there? i really like penny but i already have ss wally and ss brendan so she doesn’t really improve my roster much. she was only 2 multis tho, so not much was used on her. i’m fine with it tbh.||
Maybe one day Dena updates Paldea pairs with the region theme and add a Paldea daily region battle in the rotation... who knows
when was the galar daily region rotation added
once we get enough units
hopefully we can get some spotlight units like larry or katy
hopefully we get a couple free units 
this is also true
new Legendary adventure? 
kieran and ogerpon legendary adventure
History prof and some story about the 4 Ruin legends (could be 4 pokéfairs like the Tapus alongside that)
idk, gotta save for the Ruins anyway
i mostly just want paldea elite 4 so new champion stadium can be released
and poppy!!!!
give me poppy and tinkaton pleasaaaaase
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SS Ethan, especially now that og Blue is not only a fav but also a good nuker and dps post-grid expansion
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Anni Steven, basically for the same reason as above, he kinda suuucks
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Champ Iris, BT Leon is better in virtually every way and iris isn’t a fav unlike leon
I don't agree on #3 much but understandable
Ciris debuffs fast and specific stats, while bolsting great bulk and a huge nuke
To each their own
Yeah I love both
I just think the comparison is a bit unfair as it's comparing a early 21 unit to a mid 23 one, and skipping often over the fact iris still holds well for damage and nuke
I do wish her 5/5 was better
I was personally having hopes low on 5/5 buff ever since anni may so ciris atleast getting aggravation is a W
it could have been a lot worse
My guess is that they held back on her expansion because Leon exists…but they had no problem turning Blue into SS Ethan so idk
Blue demands sync to function unlike ethan
BTleon also doesn't rly make a good excuse considering the playstyles are different
Then it becomes one of those things…they just didn’t felt it was necessary
They do? They seem very similar tbh
I dont have ciris tho, but bt leon is a nice aoe debuffer and has good dmg w DD as well
Leon damage while debuffing is much better but his debuffs past atk and def are random and less aggressive than you'd think
Because his multipliers are low
Meanwhile ciris is more stat specific
But she gets good endgame damage, flinch and her nuke ramps faster
Because Leon sync multipliers are ass
He has speed as well, and tbh I just use him w zerena cuz y not
But if u just need debuffs its useful like for latias cresselia or others w fluid fortification
slaying

You're killing it!
thanks!!
if I keep this up I'll probably get a bit more then pity before Dec datamind
but a lot of my gems do come from leg arena
Guys, do we get Eve this reset or on VElio, VSelene event?
Nice, cannot wait to get her...she looks like a normal type Oak with swift unfurtuitous
also a chance to dump my 3* move candies 
Not like there's much use of 3* move candies, so I'm just gonna cut my farming time by not buying copies of her
ayyayas
Same, I have like 25
Still coping to be able to exchange them for 4* (hopefully not like 5 for 1 tho
)
They give more 3 star tech/support and 4 star strike, atleast im finished w 3 star strike 
Hope they rerun Jessie James so that i can spend more 3* candies 
you're gonna keep waiting lol
if so, i guess i will be waiting for variety select then to add more poison pairs to my roster
...the more realistic rocket rerun 
Anime characters go by different rules so I rather you not get your hopes up 
or dont get your hopes up at all to not get disappointed 

Hoping for new faves to arrive on December, got enough to make 13 of them level 150, or do level cap 200 DeNa
that absol found in the datamine
- Lucas
-Spent a pity worth of gems to get him and ending up not even using him often - Ingo
-That triple featured pokefair banner really shafted me. If I recall correctly he was featured together with Classic Red and Diantha, I only got Classic red x 1 copy when I spend a pity worth of gems and ending up having to pity for Ingo. Kinda regretted it due to shaft, and not really using him often too since very few of my rosters really want sandstorm. Maybe might use him often I somehow get him to 3/5 in the future.
3, SS Silver
- Not really regret, but rather I regretted going for dupes after getting him early... I ended up sinking a pity for 1 more copy of him
For those TLDR ppl, don't be fooled by the 2%/1.5%x3 rate banners. You never know how unlucky you can get.
I experienced it first hand, i forgot but iirc around 3/4 Pokefairs costs me pity to get 1 copy
It made me realise, 1% rate MF and 2% rate PF dont have much difference, sure the rate is doubled but between 99% of not getting the pair you want and 98% of the time doesn't differ much.
- SS Giovanni. The only unit I pulled for meta because I really needed the ground and poison coverage. Now I have Cynthia (for free!) who I like better as a character and I've been using OG Roxie for poison. I haven't touched SS Gio for a while because he demands a looot of gauges.
I think that's the only pull I regret, all my other limiteds I pulled because of faves
- Archie. That hunk took me to pity and I still prefer S Gloria over him
- SS Giovanni. I got him on a random multi because he was new and looked interesting, but I have never actually used him
- SS Lusamine. Like Gio, I got her because she was new and interesting, but I have never used her because I have so many better Psychic types
My only real regret is also Archie, and because I was inherently just stupid when I pulled for him. I was spreading out my pulls over the banner's duration to do some dailies and all, got to around 385-390 scout points and the banner was ending soon. I was super busy around then & misread the date the banner was going to end cos timezones, didn't pull on the last day expecting to finish off the pity the next day, only to find the banner was gone. I had the gems and everything
To this day I have no Archie 
I think the only unit I have that I dont want is maybun || who I got from yoloing as a noob
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Atleast M-Lopunny is cool ig
Tho burgh wouldve been better since he’s more useful 
I think ive done a few meta pulls but eh
they r kind of cool and helpful ig
There's only one pair that I 100%, give-me-back-my-gems regret, and that is:
- SS Mina - 18k gems for an incredibly underwhelming 1/5 kit, and one of the only VAs in PMEX that I actively dislike hearing and want to mute. She's very much benched
In terms of "probably should have skipped but you're here now ig"
- SST Red - 15k gems, have never EX'd him and he basically just collects dust. Great kit but the character is so uninteresting to me that I just. Forget I have him most of the time
Runner up there is 3. Ash, and he's not at #2 solely bc he was a YOLO multi and only cost 3k. I don't like Journeys Ash, find his kit boring af, and keep him benched. Just got caught up in the 3rd anni hype 
Damn is SS Mina really that bad? I was kinda thinking of nabbing her down the line
I have her ||off the mix scout|| and at 1/5 she's just got ... not much going for her
she's meh overall
Slow defensive setup
Only comp she somewhat shines is fairy and they dropped penny so 
She does Fairy Zone right?
On entry
yeah on entry & extension
Wat
The only way to get more of it (on sync) is 3/5
On entry is useless since you waste at least one turn buffing
Rain Dance also has no MPR so 2 uses max
I actually don't mind entry fairy zone and refreshing with sync
Most rush fights don't last that long
The problem is rain yea
I do believe she's great at 3/5 onward and I may candy her just to feel some value from my investment
But as it stands
She deserves that MPR
Skip
Nah
She's mid even at 3/5
Herself she only gives +4 defenses
GIVE ME BACK MY GEMS

So it's pretty 
See this is why you shouldn't pull non Kalosians
So true 😭
He was collecting toys for a Kalosian 
I legit only run her with sshau or irida
She's so bad without either of em

Expensive unit

Mid support for a mid DPS, they're made for each other 
well I personally don't regret rolling her since she's a great costume
Only regret for me is leon and ssleon both I rolled due to first of their kinds
Naw but fr I thought she had Fairy Zone TM

It's funny how her main selling point is defensive spread but still a pepega unit for Anabel ultimate fight
Eventho she has rain 
I had to run 2 top tier units to enable her a borderline clear
While stuff like NCblue and Kris even let Archie do it
For a moment I forgot eve was only a 3 star so just wasted coins on the event copy of her lol. Oh well 
Hello savers
Yo
Gotta hold out for at least 10 more days before I look at Elaine 
Definitely wait for that Datamine™️
Thankfully we are now getting the banners that will stay past it
Been saving for almost 3 months this next 2 weeks will go by fast for me
re. the pulling regrets i suppose i sort of regret going all the way to pity on UnoVA banner instead of bailing early once I got SS Hilbert, since SS Hilda has felt kinda underwhelming so far -- but it's not much of a regret, because a) this month is skip and b) my "want-to-pull" list is extremely short as it is so I can't imagine any better rerun banner to have pulled anyway 
luck was just not on my side, the only limited i got on the way to pity was a single hilbert haha
hard agree on the 2%/1.5%x3 warning, ingo also took me to near-pity on that triple banner (while pulling both of the others beforehand), diantha sits in my box doing absolutely nothing (sorry diantha enjoyers)
similar case here on unova banner, but im happy enough with results either way. (i ended up falling into the exhausted pull screen trap, to put it simply) but its not a big regret either way. at least it was only a ~24k regret in the end rather than full pity regret
tbh tho, rerun units might not seem as "great" since there are newer/better options for some rerunning units
some were ranked pretty well cos there probably is lesser units that can do the same/better than it when it first debutted
vilda overall did fine for my needs so far and im overall happy with 4/5 gilbert and 2/5 ssn being my other winnings from the banner. so it wasnt like the 24k lead to nothing at all. im just crossing my fingers that winter can be skip-heavy or that at least one of december or cerena dont full shaft. else ill prob be broke for jan but, meh.
even in worst case scenario, being on the broke end for january isnt terrible track record wise i havent gotten much new fav wise for jan
and ill be with enough paid gems for both ny selects if they stick to just 2 x25 selects, if they have people i want
hoping they put paulo in newyears cause based on lear, the f2p rerun track record for Pasio exclusives is pretty bad
hell, if dec is a good gem month ill prob be safe either way.
orb bundle 2/3 started today for my ny savings, on another note.
im kinda bad with dates, if todays the 17th, what date is ~20 days from now? the 7th? just trying to gauge what day id be able to purchase the last bundle assuming i dont miss a day
thanks
np
so that means itd be around the 27th of december when im done my hoarding of 10k paid 
pretty good timing since thatd be roughly around when that months datamine would likely be.
so ill be done with the bundles close to same time we'd see a sneak peek at atleast part of the selects
Was wondering - end of year is when we get some broken MF's is that right?
Yep
Last year it was the Kalos NCs
Year before, SSR Cynthia (one of the game's first Zone users)
Hence why a lot of people are saving to see what datamine brings
Lussa was also a month before ssrcyn iirc
Oh right, so Lussa is December MF 
Hopefully only 1 MF just like usual December MF trend 
They can release the usual 3 MF on half anni 
technically she debuted on late November but she ran through the end of December

wait all MF work like that
Ssrcynthia is long iirc
if NC we prob should expect 2 at least tho
so far we never have a solo NC
Unova or Alola NC please 
If it's NC Nate I'll definitely pull for him
I doubt it's going to be Alola NC because they just added Gladion to lodge this month and they're doing V Elio and V Selene, but I could easily be wrong
I'm still waiting patiently for all my gems to vanish in the Sinnoh NC 
Oh right hope they do sinnoh NC too, as so far, i only grab ssrcynthia out of various sinnoh MF 
Unova's time to shine
NC Calem and Serena last time
We havent had a solo MF debut since Zerena
Man so they release nc Serena just before the big banners that’s kinda sad 😂
The current one is a rerun
The pattern since third anni is to release new mfairs every 3 months with a 3 2 3 2 units pattern
So I guess there is a chance the new ones will be better than NC Serena
And we would be best to find out from next datamine
it's gonna be 3 mfs this time 
Every month there's a chance for a "stronger" unit
But 99% of the content don't require such power
Yea I'm enjoying HS and it's so much harder when you don't have at least 3 -4 of the top units of the type. Ie without NC Leaf and SS morty I'd prob have 80k less points. If I didn't have Ss Hilda as well prob like 100k+ 😂
I guess the other aspect I like is LG and that's changed my pull decisions. Ie I reflect back I have no idea why I pulled Ssr cynthia, I had to pity as well and i would have hoped I kept gems for Cinderace.
Renegade has drip and is a PLA spoiler, I don't regret her at all tbh
Even if I didn't use her at all
Halfway there
That 1% being ultimate battles 🥹
And a couple EBEs
oh finally the stage i originally missed came around so i could fix my team selection for it
also updated the dps i was using on hoenn stage since i noticed i was still using SuSteven for it even tho i had a new hoenn unit since last hoenn rotation
Hi
Someone sent me there because i have a very hard time to not spend my gems on anything
just gamble on #pull-simulator and not in-game
As long as you don't convince yourself you can do it you'll never be able to save
Well it seems like Minecraft is now fulfilling my gambling addiction
Specifically rerolling enchantments
I only saved one time
And that was for the johto villain arc
What made you save that time?
After realizing I was still pulling for every single new unit I decided to have a fresh start but not wasting gems anymore
I rerolled for SS Hilda and my first pity went for SS Morty. Did all content with this team and now I'm going for my second pity. I'm at peace now
Saw your posts and yeah avoiding the mix is hard, especially when it's always here popping up before they free daily
But you already get past 5/5 mred, you need to stop, consider:
- It's real moneys, try to plan your yearly spendings before it's too late. Check the best deals and put a self limit
- The pool will likely be upgraded in the future, so don't rush it
- Select scouts are already a thing, way cheaper and safe to get
(Basically it's random units vs 10 guaranteed new units) - Hide the flex channel, I personally can't look at it anymore bcs insanely lucky pulls
- Start using the pull simulator, it's really helpful to sedate gambling needs, even more when there's nothing much left to do
And don't be tempted if it gives something
Pull simulator gave me a triple pull on penny but I just ignored that 
Would like to add
- Simply exit the game when you feel the temptation coming. When you can, do the dailies and log back out
Talking about mix, i only did 50 points monthly so i can still pity the mix pair before the lineup changes, also the real money costs are kinda manageable if its only 50 points monthly . But, as ||i managed to get mix red on my first 50 points, so i gonna skip all the other 5 months and just wait for the new mix pair||
900 daily feels harsh especially when i only grab 3 sync orbs bundle in 2 months...so thats only 9k paid gems in 2 months, so if i pull everyday, i will spend everything in just 10 days 
i will pull maybe 10 per month max
and im pulling for Sawyer/Rachel mostly
if i get these im out
Is it possible to have a datamine before the 27th?
The server mantainance ends right before the reset so I think an update that day would be weird
anything is possible
Psure it's first time we are ever getting maint to begin with
Yep it happened earlier, but depend on the calendar but doubt they'll release it 23-24
There's no really optimal way bcs depend on how much you can spend and how many limited units you have
But for lightspenders like me that rely entirely on 3k bundle, the later we reach pity the better
To convince/detere myself abt the mix I wrote few notes comparing the gem value and my plan was to just to snag one mRed and done till the next featured
So most of gems to selects
Hope to cover 2 featured units with mix before pity
Keeping 6k gems for dailies as extra for units I like to pull (5 dailies/month) l
Cleaned up if someone need a comparsion between mix scout and select scout based on 3k bundle as only source of paid gems (rates based on last banners)
I’m currently saving for half anni but I might go after the December mf depending on how they help my account. Another thing is paid gems because I’ve been spending a lot on mix scout and I gotta say I’ve gotten a lot of limited pairs but now I’m planning on saving them for ny select scouts. If I hold back the spending then I should have 10k+ by ny. Im glad I could share my summoning journey with everybody and I hope everybody can control their gambling habits. Wish me luck on mine as well
Ok, just don't flex your yolos around here, it's a resource saving channel
Please spoil your pulls.
mb that wasn't my intention
Im doing the same, as i mostly chase faves, i just grab mix red and then done...as it is hard to get either legendary, mythical, UB from limited mix banner pool. The rates are so low that better for me to just wait for selects to chase specific pairs...well way cheaper than selecting them in mix banner's pity which costs 30k paid...i rather do couple of 3k and 5k selects, so aside than mix pair itself, there's not much incentive for me...so got mix red and then done, no more temptations for the rest of 5 months plus 
eevees incoming this reset iirc
got enough stamina saved for prob getting the ticket tomorrow evening
Hope y'all get the Eeveelution you want 
413 stamina on me (slightly wasteful of like 40 mins but else i know ill forget to claim the stamina from today)
so will have 610/800 spent on reset
Happy Eevee Day everyone.
x1 and like 190 stamina is all thats gating me from the ticket just swept the other objectives. 
cant wait to see what my freebie is.
Another event with only gold eggs, apperciate my time not being wasted
Hoping to get all the eeveelutions
i did the math and ill have my stamina for it somewhere around 12 hours from now give or take a few minutes. 
and yeah hope i get all the eevees too
i atleast want the f2p zone ones
if i somehow dont get sylveon im gonna scream at dena, probably. thats the one im missing the most atm out of the egg options bc fairy zone
Ticket gave jolteon. Ya know, I’ll take it.
Strengthening my electric box isn’t optimal since that hse passed but I’ll accept it. Free unit is a free unit
I mean its not impossible that the HSEs will rerun 
Very few types r even capable of doing it, some dont even have 15 units
I will wait for this reset to finish bingo, as i need around 250 stamina but only has 175 currently 
Id like elio or selene tbh, johto eevees r my favs of all the eevees
Im hoping for jolteon or espeon as i still dont have any trainer that use it...i dont have glaceon too because i skipped irida but maybe next year's eevee day got another ticket again 
Plus ive played sm and usum but no sinnoh or johto games
Got lucas 
Would be great if he comes before fire HS
Well at least, i got 2 shiny eevees
I got Kris, electric CS or electric HS rerun ig 
Didn’t get Kris from the ticket but Lyra’s my second favorite so yay
got Lyra
another Moltres counter baby
Got espeon for future psychic hs 
im honestly hoping december's favless so i can just chill for the month atp, feel like i just need a month to sit back and relax and just pseudo ignore LG and such.
but with my track record im expecting at least 1 fav jumpscare
I hope for the opposite for me, its been 2 months of faveless for me...im starting to dry up
got kris, very cool! not my fave but I'll take her
Oh right, next reset is the last free gift from event login...hope it means in next 2 resets will be datamine 
Dang I got the same shit as u again 
Idt I needed more sun setters tho so he rotting as a lv 1 unit together with archer

🤝but i at least make him 140 
archer is fun to slot into CS as basically a sync countdown battery
True, but he aint a fave so he gonna stay 1/5
December is notoriously a big month… but I feel you, I really gotta get my count back up
i'm at 90k, feeling pretty good coming into december
||please SC Diantha rerun||
i like saving but the further I go it feels like a ticking time bomb
Same 
||is lucas like considered the worst one||
It really depends on the roster, but in a vacuum, yes
there are just so many sun setters already
Me too
Well folks
Has anyone else had disappearing Evee? Hatched then poof... gone?
One was a shiny too😭
Do you have a filter set in the day care?
Or did you make them sync pairs? If so they won't be in the day care anymore, you need to go to Edit team then "Switch View" to eggs to see them
No to both😅
Do you have 500 eggs
Not sure what happens in that case
It overflows but blocks you from adding new eggs to the incubator
Ah ty
This is what the filter is on
Hmm did a reinstall, seems to have popped them back, bizarre
i failed and wasted some rolls 
this has been a boring month but i'll wait for the datamine
I'd spoiler out the ||pulling CSerena|| part, but you could simply just wait for datamine then make your decision
How do I spoiler something
|| on either side, ||spoiler|| becomes ||spoiler||
OK I'll just wait for Datamine...
Shouldn't be too long now 
My insistence on saving for specific characters is killing me inside with how much I would need to realistically pity, anyone else have the same issue?
finally back at pity!
I mean getting pities for each should represent the worst case scenario
It's most likely for you to not hit pity so much
Well I know it’s not likely, but my brain instantly jumps to the worst case. My luck has not treated me kindly
Yeah me too
Same, because my faves are all legendaries, mythicals, UBs, paradoxes
so if all costs pity
but i already got 71 so cannot stop now 
Rip for me lol
One of my main strategies is to be willing to skip some favs from time to time and reposition my gem count for future units. I have my top 3 and just have the willingness to skip favs when necessary
I'm so close to 139,530 gems
currently have about 22k + 6k paid gems
Coincidencally as close as I'm going to get to my username
on 2nd thoughts, i just realized that dude gives a 1.6x multiplier on eevee day event so he wont be lv 1 ig

he has "some uses" after all unlike archer

just now learned about the sweepstakes so even tho the chances are astronomically low, ima repost that stuff. 
I accidentally reposted it without checking that my country cannot participate in it 
My luck all went to eevee eggs, got 4 shinies but 1 is a dupe umbreon
5 more shiny variations to go
*rex
Can we ask apologems for not including other countries? 
We had in-game lottery right? (With random users getting gem reward)
we did, yeah
i couldn't care less about the sweepstakes' prizes, but gatekeeping gem rewards for two regions only does not sit well with me
My goal is to reach 400k and try to sustain that mark for a few months
Does December usually have more than average gem counts or January?
Last times yes
Usually December January and February have a decent amount
I think it's mostly bcs winter, ppl at home, holidays, new year and lunar new year
Hopefully its this time too
, i need some boost as although these 2 months are skip months for me but the monthly gems are also less.
||SC Diantha rerun soon pls||
Back to pity and continuing to save
As long as we get 30k gems next month, I’m happy
that's heavy hopium 
95,910 gems... hope next month's gems are good 
At 85k gems, finally stopped being lazy and grabbed all gems I didn't collect 
True
Thinking its end of year/ Christmas thinking Dena be generous with gems as they have been
But you all see... they will release several varieties, 1x or 2x MF with a pokefair or two
To the tune of 25k gems... then we will learn what despair is😆
Muhahaha
But not me, I have a plan
I have no such fear, as variety are skip and MF rate has been same for 2 years almost
Seasonals being more or less enticing is what can cause the most gem change for me
Same, for now variety is a skip for me...unless they start to throw legendaries, mythicals, UBs, paradoxes in it 
I can see ultra recon squad guys being variety

Too generous
Drop it to 19k
Yup. They are always potential curveballs
Tbf I am kind of tempted to skip non MFs in general
Unless you are MF, you have way less shelf life 
Especially the characters that actual have a chance to get MF alt themselves
PF feel better on reruns with 2x or 3x rates
I've always skipped PFs unless huge faves
Seasonals>MFs>PFs>variety huge faves (none yet)> spotlights
For me
I always skip variety and mix
I don’t care what type of banner it is otherwise and just pull favorites lol
PF’s became easier to skip when they got 5/5 grids at least for me
I like to have units I can realistically get to full potential and having 3/5 and not 5/5 bothers me so I skip
I prefer MF > PF > seasonal > variety
If I like the character and they're a MF i don't skip them
But I can skip some PFs and below
I can skip anything but seasonals are the banner type that's most likely to have units I will pull
Because outfits are the best there
Halloween be dripping
Smooth criminal Gio is drip
Just don't become like this
What is 1.6mil yen in like USD or AUD?
🚶♂️
Less than a typical fgo hyper unit cost

Shit costs like 200-300 bucks per copy and you need atleast 6
gacha is expensive hobby 
Gacha is a cheap hobby depending on the game
Gacha can also be a free hobby 
you're also gambling in a gacha, so could be really bad depending on the person
Others games I played had infamous prices like: 20$ for materials to level up ONE character
There was no room for deals and no good use of paid resources (since were the same as non-paid one)
But I think the most infamous thing is pity not being a true pity, glad in poma we can get what we want
Unite with 40 USD holowear
I go mf>pf>seasonal>variety
Collect all mf, find the most worthy pf, and only pick the seasonal that entice me the most
And skip variety except ball guy
Holowear is a flex cosmetic
It's not essential
Anni 4.0 in a nutshell except with even more banners than mentioned here
The original variety characters are kinda nice, although they are not my faves but if there's variety select, i might grab it just to get ball guy/proton/petrel/ariana...but not gonna commit much to get them in a banner or mix which cost 36.6k gems and 30k paid gems respectively to pity
If it ever crosses DeNa's mind to do variety lodge guests, those original pairs might be chosen
Oh guys, dont worry...i just use Penny's pfp, and i skip her of course...but might grab if she appears in any fair selects down the line
i just realized this reset's decently big for gems. hell, all 3 next resets are decent for gem counts

glad that we're gonna be getting a decent bit of gems in these last few pre-datamine days
Kalos EBE 
Well the EBE gives gems and its a rerun so just use the previous run pairs to clear it 
So fitting for gem zen
Thank diancie for generating all of these lovely diamonds 
BP Erika tho 
Only these 4 left, others are already 5* 
Sleeping on Lodge Sycamore smh
noticed that HSE results are in. so got my medal
glad to have that done and over with
I didn’t really care about it since I know I’m never getting it
no need to stress about any future hse's for me beyond the candy coins
But I definitely know won’t get the medal in two months, only the points.
Least gems there if don’t add any strength
yeah, glad that you dont need strength to get the gems out of it
Might only do that if my rosters terrible.
atleast f2p grass roster isnt super hindered like fire was. unless the params end up being just that bad.
Still no near to 140k. Seems I need to wait next month for the pity to arrive.
i forget and im a bit too lazy to check rn, is there even a f2p unit thats kalos+rock
i know kalos+grass is shauna.
Grant. That’s the only rock
waiting till next reset to do the BC ||cause i wanna play around with ncerena in it||
alright atleast theres something to fill the full missions then
Gonna plan mine once stamina full, guess that’s the one where it’s the talonflame.
Should be easier for the gems there than last time.
Still about a half hour till my first eevees, cause had four eggs to clear out and I don’t 100% optimize my incubator timing at all.
Be asleep by the time mine ready.
Immediate 3passive fairy and ice… do sub3 passive even exist?

glad to have my fairy zone done and over with either way
Yes, non-shinies can have less than 3 passives
Pretty stoked about fairy zone 
Just missing 3 of them with 3 passives
Not half bad having them at 2 passive I guess

same
Im still missing 3 bar Vaporeon, Espeon, Jolteon and Umbreon
Meanwhle i keep getting Leafeon lol, even got 2 shinies
so far, i got a shiny sylveon, vaperon and a regular 3* jolteon and sylveon
for me... i've got double shiny jolteon, 1 espeon,
Normal i've got Jolteon, Espeon, Vaporeon. The rest are 1skill/2skills.
I'm missing Umbreon.
Hi, I am new to this group.
I got a shiny Leafeon, normal Espeon,Umbreon, Vaporeon, Flareon , Glaceon. Still missing Jolteon and Sylveon.
Hoping for shiny Sylveon and Umbreon
oh right. no sylveon yet.
nine eevees, only one three passive so far 😅
it's sylveon though so that's nice
- glaceon 2 passive and x2 espeon 2 passive
We can do it
hatching 3 more Eevees in next 2 hrs hehe, hope can get a Jolteon or Sylveon
Hey there! What do you need help with today? Temptation? Itchy Finger?
Saving in general?
itchy finger and temptation go hand in hand together
it's when you always feel a need to spend off the currency you have
the way to combat this is to get off the game as soon as you finish dailies
Anyways, Gems
Gems
Very nice to see you back above a pity.

Imagine having enough gems for pity, not me
You can do it
What’s a pity can you buy it
Tbh I’m out of gems and I’m slowly losing hope and i really unsure if I wanna do the champion stadium
Why not do the other stages first?
Also idk what you spent your gems on, but the general consensus of this thread is to save first.
You should try to clear some of the event stages first and some of the legendary adventures.
Also, have you completed Victory Road?
They said they did.
Single pulls.
(Yes I belong in a insane asylum)
…..well that is not recommended in the slightest.
I learned that the hard way
Well, the first thing I ask... why did you pull?
I ask so I can give proper advice built for each person
Well I kinda get desperate and impatient so whenever I get to like 600-1,500 gems I start single pulling
Especially when the banner is close to ending
Ah, I see that you struggle with FOMO.
Fear of missing out
It's not a disease and it's easy to fix
The easiest way to counter the desire to wanting a new unit is to content with what you have right now.
And the best way to do that is to read kits... learn how each pair interacts with each other and learn each pair's needs
Proper teambuilding can make any unit work.
Do you know how to build teams properly?
There is a straightforward guide in #1010307000346878062 to building a basic DPS - Support structured team.
Nope. I never did in the first place
(Sorry for the pings too ^^)
I don't really care about pings too much.
But yeah learning to teambuild is possibly the one of the top skills in the game
A good unit is only as good as the units around it.
So I can make Ethan and typhlosion work??
Bc they’re always ridiculed as a bad or mid unit
they both work together too
Ethan can work but he needs too much help. The effort required to make him work properly is not justified when Silver is better and all he dupes and power-ups he needs are free.
and yeah, specially after he got the powerboost.
A good approach is to always pull for a character if you like them and have 36.6k gems
I don't think you can exploit Ethan's powerboost at lower move levels.
Besides Silver is much better than Ethan without his powerboost
Do I do have one more question. Do I use the “optimize” thing?
No
no 
Long answer: optimize builds exclusively off of base stats and actually doesn't put together a team that works.
It's better to learn manual teambuilding.
Also on that note, don't use auto unless in very specific circumstances
yeah it's not that difficult to build a team that works
Reminder you can ask for general help in #poma-questions if this isn’t about gems anymore
Understood!
I only use that when autoing daily villa co-op for cookies oh and farming gears at ex plaza before this
Eeveelutions report:
Shinies: glaceon, leafeon, umbreon, espeon, vaporeon
Non shiny: jolteon, sylveon
Missing: flareon
I love this event, better outcome than tyrogue, meowth, and paldea starter event 
same
i stopped hatching eggs after the paldea event but i came back thanks to the eevees
I hope they rerun tyrogue though, i kinda love those hitmons line 
People are getting shiny Eevee eggmons? 
Chances are quite high, 12% to get one
But most have 3 incubators or even egg pass
That's why you may see some ppl having almost a complete set of shiny eeveelutions
But don't worry, we have that for barely three days 
shiny: vaporeon
other: sylveon, glaceon, flareon
havent hit a non 3passive just yet thankfully
i dont even have any p2w things for eggs, im just letting the rng roll naturally
3 pasives are not that much better
So always keep one of each kind, is more than enough
yeah, im thankful that the main thing for this set of eggs is the moveset itself
Am I doing good?
Just gonna drop by with my gem wallet ||before ncerena drains said wallet most likely by 36k||
The month ended up being more eventful for me than I originally planned for but that’s part of why I save, so I don’t have to leave empty handed when I see something I want. Still have a good chunk of gems unclaimed (somewhere around the +1k mark)
How many gems does each thing reward you individually?

Oh guys, which dupe and outfit style that we will get this reset?

Hurm there's no legendary pair that fits with that...
i guess i just gonna use my solgaleo outfit as it fits registeel and solgaleo
At least last month's fit mesprit
i just realized something that'd prob be more evil than Variety pairs. a banner type that's basically just the pokemon (since, if they do our player character in a banner someday, itd literally just be that essentially)
like basically an eggmon as a "full" sync pair

worst part is i could 100% see dena doing it someday
prob would be more of a slap in the face than a fav mon being on a variety banner
I think the reason they started doing V Scouts is cuz people complained that some trainers weren’t getting alts; I can’t see them making an MC scout
Me waiting for purple one. 
Also the dupe is cheren
Calem in december ig, meowstic frame december 2024 it seems 
Reason being because the colors reminds me of shiny Zoroark hair.
dark purple is so cool
If I wanna save gems from pokefair pairs, should I just buy monthly card and pull mix scout only
Since all the pokefairs, seasonals and etc will be included in mix sooner or later
Besides selects its the best use of paid gems imo
Since dailies u will just lose those gems if u dont get the unit but w mix they stay
The rate is low for the specific pair you want though, unless you're a newbie and chasing mix red...i still feel that selects are cheaper as it may cost you 30k paid for pity so 6 and 1/3 months of monthly card
alright, going into Datamine with over 47k freegem, not terrible.
basically got enough to prob guarantee 2 pities minimal next month
We’re near the same numbers, I’m at 44k!
I hate my pulling addiction
The minute I get to 3,000 gems I have the sudden urge to pull
the more gems you save the easier it is to resist pulling - i know getting past 3k is hard but try forcefully closing the game and distracting yourself once you hit it
But my real question is is why people have like over hundreds and so
Patience.
Am I doing something wrong??
It's not easy... I'm not going to lie
But make a favourites list of 5-6 trainers you want... it will help you prioritize what you want
and it keeps you away from pulling from other units
disciplined veterans
everytime you pull, assume you're going to pity
This is my current balance - I've been playing for almost 3 years and am immensely picky about what I pull for
you don't need this kind of balance, though - getting to 36.6k is enough
Ive been hit with a bunch of pities that it taught me that i should save 
and everytime you pity is a unit that you might miss that you REALLY REALLY want
See! Like that! How what and why-
usually you'll get scared into saving unfortuately
it's a tough tough reality of gacha
You don't know what gacha is... until it hits you
if a pair doesn't interest me I don't pull it. For example I've skipped every single anni unit this year
Me... it was Maxie
i don't care about meta or hype - you've just got to be very focused on what you want
||Barely getting Maxie and missing out on Rats was my motivation to save... in hindsight I didn't need the rats and now I'm a solid saver||
saving, lots of gems, knows what units they want
but i'm an odd case
like I said, ~40k is more than enough
so save
But what if they’re good or something??? Bc people have a tendency to show off the unit in question
Favourites list...
who cares if they're good?
What are 5-6 trainers that you like?
every month will bring good units
I don’t know-
Ignore good/bad/meh units... what are trainers you think you might like
But one that comes to mind is
if you play long enough, everyone is good basically
you've just got to fight the hype (which is easier said than done, i know)
That one team@magma girl with her camerupt
tier lists literally don't matter
Do you have any more favourite characters?
Wally’s sygna suit
unless you're playing for leaderboards (whivh give insignificant rewards) focus on your favourites
I skipped the rats, frogs and eeveelutions MF although they are good because i simply dislike playing using rats, frogs and eeveelutions cats...simple 
everyone is viable
*with enough time and experience
Yet I see them rarely used from the content I see on YouTube
I don’t see a single user using Lana
you watch the wrong content
Ignore what you see on Youtube! It's about you! Not them!
yup, and i skipped all the birds because I didn't want them - you just focus on your faves
and the game is much more rewarding 😌
It's about your game and your experience!
Play the game on your own terms. We're just here to make it more enjoyable!
there will constantly be fancy new units
no one gives a rats damn about what you have
focus on what you actually want
And there is no shame in using the gen pool units either
everything strong usually stays strong, and they're constantly getting powercrept
People cannot even be mad, even if you brought weedle eggmon to a co-op content, there's no report button...just play with what you like
^^ there's an insane amount you can do with common/free pairs
Like what??
And DeNa even helps by giving em EX every month
Cuz they keep getting killed on point one
I've cleared CSMM with only gen pool units actually
dyk how to teambuild
Oh right Leaf power boost today 
Barely
Don’t you have Raihan in your pfp? Start with that if he’s in that department.
Valerie EX Tai
NEED TO GRID HER
Where's your valerie EX
You need to stop having the mentality of "It's going to die" and "I need limiteds" to... "I can do it"
Tai did it >:3
She's Kalos
It starts with saving gems... which makes you better at the game

learn
done on reset bestie, what do you think i am??
I thought you forgot her after an inproved Valerie...mawile
Better to direct them to #1010307000346878062 in this case
Oh god I have to change all my leaf grids now lol
fantastic quote from a very intelligent, talented and gorgeous user
And I just love testing F2P units
with time all the things you think are bad become perfectly usable/good in most content
They’re fun af now
I actually have more fun giving masked royale a spin than NC Serena
so I just run them together
i spent the first few months not pulling on anything and i managed to clear base cs
I like masked royale, he is one of the rare pairs that have tm that buffs the whole team
Everyone having grids now helps a lot with saving ngl










