Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)

[winged fossil]

Like maybe it technically has one but it’s splash or some shit

So other than ex sync effect it doesn’t do anything. Not damage. Not buffs. Nothing.

[vestal leaf]

That's just not what we're talking about tho

And tbh, that's what support syncs already do

450 damage against average csmm loadout is pretty much 0

We still clear with it because sync buffs matter more than a nuke most times

Sync nukes are overrated if there's no DPS backing them up

[winged fossil]

What if it’s like sprint ex and that’s all it’s doing

Would you still consider it

[vestal leaf]

Well if they made a Clair alt that's a support or sprint that does pitful sync damage and as secondary effect gets adrenaline 2, hell yeah I'd consider it lol

[winged fossil]

Just was a sorta “shower thoughts” type of moment that came to mind right as I came to bed

[vestal leaf]

That's cool AF

adrenaline 1 + -2 cd on sync passive + sprint or support ex?

Hell yeah

If it's Clair I'd scout her even if she had a fall Morty tier kit

And clear every LA and CSMM with her

Just like I did with Palmer

Me when a fave gets a banger outfit, cool Mon and dogshit kit

If kit is good or meta ofc it's better

But outfit, Mon and character are miles more important

And that's what zenning should be about

[tardy fiber]

Just use other pairs and sync with them instead like i didnt sync with all of my BP master pairs, i sync with their teammates instead...i think i also never sync with a bunch of pairs like lucas, sscyrus, ssethan, sslyra, ssN, lusamine and others...i sync with support EX instead because i favor them to spam more of their attack move than syncing

Annisteven too, well because he doesn't have much sync benefit, sure he can deal a good sync damage but thats with flying zone

So i just spam dragon ascent instead

I think i also didn't sync with maxie and archie nowadays

Annilillie too because her sync doesnt have piercing blows like passive that her moongeist beam has

Well short point is, if its a fave, you will find ways to make the fave pair work

[bleak falcon]

So A. Steven then

But seriously, unless they also make the entire rest of the kit trash lacking a Sync Move with actual effects isn’t nearly the blow you’d think it is, especially if Support EX is involved

[vestal leaf]

Maxie and Archie syncs absolutely suck lol

Even on release

It was better to sync with Lyra to reset sun for example

This even before she got ex

[tardy fiber]

Yup so if a fave didn't have a sync, i can still find ways to work with it

[vestal leaf]

100%

[tardy fiber]

Plenty of my faves didn't use their sync anyway

[bleak falcon]

It’s not even a favorite vs. non-favorite issue, some Sync Pairs are just designed to have bad regular move damage but an amazing Sync or vice versa

[sturdy flower]

yep

[vestal leaf]

I always prefer DPS over sync

For hopium on my faves

Unless it's like gigas who has great but not insane sync and a gimmicky DPS

I'll take those kind of weird compromises

[lunar thistle]

I don't have much favs, so I just pull when I see them

[vestal leaf]

I have a lot but I've skipped some lesser faves for potential bigger faves

Like how I skipped akari for Roxie in this case

[tardy fiber]

I just answering what Rhythm asked

So my answer still stands, if its a fave, i will find ways to make it work

Having sync or not, weak or not

If its not a fave, they can rot and i still don't care about them

[uneven pewter]

Well I got both with Giovannidon

dude's sync and his dps are great

plus the fact it's classic Giovanni with his Rhydon i am like

In the end now that I filled out the survey and the red haze is gone

I am just feeling apathy, which is never a good thing with me and Gachas

Usually is the precursor before I drop them but I have stuck with Masters for 4 years now we'll see where I end up by 4.5

[tardy fiber]

I gonna keep on playing, i like that this game isnt time consuming and merging all generations of characters and pokemons in a single place good for me that never played pokemon games after diamond and pearl...plus way better than PoGo with their paywall pokemon, still no f2p way to get Keldeo

[sand crown]

Are you me? After 4 years it kinda does feel like you’re just checking off boxes

[unkempt vortex]

Gacha burnout

[vernal glade]

I’ll keep playing also, but still as a f2p.

Even as a launch day player.

[junior trout]

It's rumored to come to ex raids in december from a reliable leaker

Same person who has leaked like the past year's worth of community day's all correctly

[feral vale]

I’m a day 1 player, and I honestly just go in, do my dailies over the course of 10-15 min then move on with my life lmao

[violet nebula]

This is the way

[sturdy flower]

that's the way unless there's some event to do etc

enjoy the little things in moderation instead of staring at nothing

[uneven pewter]

For masters? This is pretty late to the ballgame but better late than never

[junior trout]

Nah, i meant for go lol

[uneven pewter]

Bleh

[junior trout]

Was referring to their last bit, as keldeo was locked behind a paywall in go

[uneven pewter]

To hell with pogo

[tardy fiber]

Cool been waiting since 6th December 2022

Although i still hate pogo since they remove free weekly remote raid

Amd each raid passes cost myr1.90

[tardy fiber]

I need to go in 2 more times to check my eggs still looking for shiny diglett and machop

[junior trout]

And how they lock a master ball under a time-based 60 raids requirement

[tardy fiber]

Yep kinda why I ignore it entirely, plus it doesn't have use well it can catch galar birbs but galar birbs can also be 1* IV as its from a wild and not a raid, so wasting the hard earned master ball for 1* kinda stings

Maybe i wont back to be hardcore pogo player unless they introduce IV candy or something that we can use to slowly make our pokemon perfect IV...some of my mythicals are 2* IV and it feels sad

At least doesn't need to worry about IV in PoMa

Would stings if someone's ncred has 700 spatk while mine only 300 spatk

[junior trout]

That would suuuck lol

Though that might as well be what skill gear is lol

[tardy fiber]

Luckily i just focus on rainbow feathers for skill gear

Still need another 2 feathers this month for fairy and normal

[winged fossil]

the electric one from the current event looks REALLY good ngl

cause youd be using electric terrain on most electric teams anyway esp as f2p, and paralyze usually is VERY accessible on electric teams anyways (esp with volkner being f2p ETerrain, and NCBlue having HE2 iirc on grid if you're using him)

[tardy fiber]

I cannot wait when we finally have 3 rainbow feathers for the same types

For now all 8 are from different types

[crisp oracle]

||could someone please talk me out of pulling for roxie||

||other than the fact that her EX is eh||

[lunar thistle]

Guitar is the inferior instrument to violin

[crisp oracle]

look I played violin once

[lunar thistle]

Also Toxtricity looks permanently on something bad

[crisp oracle]

I wish I chose percussion

[lunar thistle]

Like that boundary between drunk and-

-you get what I mean

[lunar thistle]

Violin >>>>>

[hard wave]

What do u like abt her? Outfit? Toxtricity? Need poison/electric damage?

What r u saving for?

[pure arrow]

Do you really need another electric unit? Actually tbh I don’t know your roster for electric or poison but if you’re based and have Emma or Oleana then you shpuld be fine

[crisp oracle]

good points

prob just new unit syndrome

[tardy fiber]

After this month i think people will be less tempted to get certain weather/terrain/zone pairs...thanks to eeveelutions eggmons

[shell glade]

Tbh Im glad ice zone is finally available to people instead of being limited to 1 MF unit

[lost bobcat]

Ice zone is cursed

[shell glade]

I have irida but it's still kinda weird that she's the only released unit w/ it

[tardy fiber]

Yep kinda like that DeNa give it ice zone instead of hail, they could just do Hail if they are that cold hearted

[hard wave]

It seems like zones r becoming more common now luckily

[lost bobcat]

Irida got it but it's an extra, her sync is actually on Hail and not ice zone
So are her multipliers
That's why is extra weird that they choose ice zone

[broken mulch]

Still no bug zone for me tho lol

[lost bobcat]

And dmg aside all other passive that regards hail (healing, hasty, comforting)

[tardy fiber]

Im ok for bug as although i dont have bug zone but i have bug rebuff

[lost bobcat]

Same, also bug limited are powerful

[pure arrow]

||SS Hilbert|| is cool, glad I got him the first go around so ||I don’t have to pull|| for now

[lost bobcat]

We hust get two poison/ecetric stuff right before eevees
And few months ago the Paldean starters
Idk what's going on seimriously
Maybe terrakion LG is possible the next roubd

[broken mulch]

I’m stuck with alder and Guzma LMAO

[lost bobcat]

Alder is great

[hard wave]

Tbh it’d be weird if they did, cuz the others r an innate boost hail is not

[lost bobcat]

Ye in term of only dmg
Everything else it just doesn't work
We got a lot of hail sinergy, the only thing ice zone has is Extension3 from Irida
All other users that use hail for complete sinergy lose it
I understand that 50% dmg is nice and usually hail passive are kinda low
But having even 30% dmg plus healing, plus accelleration, plus status immunity or whatever is cool

And it doesn't work for Moltres

Sure is cool for ppl without irida, they can stick ice zone + hail to pump their striker

[summer goblet]

I’m kinda tempted on the whole mix banner thing

Granted its paid gems and not free so my f2p gems are not in danger

But still, don’t feel like i wanna spend money on this game this month

[sturdy hatch]

The banner isn’t leaving, you can think for a month

[summer goblet]

True

Maybe i find a stable job by then

[broken mulch]

6 months

It ain’t going anywhere anytime soon LMAO

[summer goblet]

To help supplement this game

[lunar thistle]

Fuck uhhh

Other way round

[summer goblet]

Lol

[sturdy hatch]

Please don’t share pull results here

[lunar thistle]

Anyway we go back to saving

[grand bramble]

So technically the rare stones are used to trade for candy coins

[lunar thistle]

soz

[sturdy hatch]

Stone->coin->candy->dupe what a system

[summer goblet]

I officially retired from daily pulling banners not mf

Mix banner is def the jam

[grand bramble]

Lol....

So.. I heard all units are inside the mix scout

Well except master fair

[summer goblet]

Yep

Everyone

[grand bramble]

What's the rate% then?

7%

[oak crest]

Ye

[grand bramble]

Oh....

[summer goblet]

Yep

[oak crest]

If you are aiming for a certain unit the chances is super low tho since the pool is very diluted

[grand bramble]

I thought 10% at least... Because pokefair are in it too

[oak crest]

0.025% for a specific limited unit

[summer goblet]

Select scout pulls have its usage now

Now if dena can add poke fairs to masterfair as part of the pulls

Its am ultimate banner

[grand bramble]

I think this mix scout will stay till the rest of the day...
So far... Red is still paywalled?

[summer goblet]

Yep

The only one

[oak crest]

Yea

[summer goblet]

There shall be more

[oak crest]

Will stay that way for awhile at least

[summer goblet]

Mix banner unit

[grand bramble]

I see now... Oh man

[oak crest]

He's basically a rich man version of the varielazy units

[summer goblet]

I think red will be swap out

Should have make an Arceus

And make it broken af

Best unit in the game

You have to spend money to get hi@

[oak crest]

They really be pushing variety units to the point they make a paid only unit that looks exactly like a variety unit

[summer goblet]

Haha

[grand bramble]

If they kept red as a paid unit forever... Im... Im

Because I know this game is very generous from the beginning

[winged fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/super-smash-bros-ultimate-everyone-is-here-gif-17099121

Mix scout be like

Also. It says mix scout pairs may appear elsewhere in the future or something in its terms so uh. Red will probably be either free bannered or at least in a select…someday.

Although won’t be surprised if it’s not till like 2025/2026 with how long the banner lasts lmao

At least that fine print gives a tiny slimmer of hope future mix pairs won’t get paywalled permanently

[tardy fiber]

||I probably just gonna put 50 points in it every month, this way i can get a pity right before the lineup changes||

Kinda hefty cost if i need to spend 900 paid gems every day

[winged fossil]

30k paid even over six months is way too much

[tardy fiber]

Well if i dont like it, i can always stop halfway...the pity points carry anyway

Its not a lost progress like doing dailies on normal limited banner

[winged fossil]

Even whales will take over a month to pity

[tardy fiber]

Especially those seasonals that only have 2 weeks banner duration

So 14/400 points and gone to ashes

[winged fossil]

They really want whales to go at least two to three months of daily spending to average 5/5 haha

Maybe slightly less but still

[tardy fiber]

Still better than cake banner, if im a whale...cake banner if unlucky, it will costs 36.6k paid and you need to spend that many in a month of master fair banner duration usually... sometimes its 34 days

[winged fossil]

Also can I say the position of the mix banner sucks. I can’t just hit left to skip the entire scout screen now

[tardy fiber]

We can just form a whole cake in 100 days, i wonder why DeNa do cake banner

Plus all 5 cakes at once in 100 days

[winged fossil]

I have to click it twice now to reach daily freebie. Literally unplayable. /s

[tardy fiber]

Well cannot do anything if you got 0 paid gems so even if you're tempted so much still cannot pull it without paids...so just slide again for daily freebie

[winged fossil]

Yeah problem is I have paid gems now lol. 2.5k so far

[tardy fiber]

Well good luck

[winged fossil]

Good thing I don’t rly care for red as a trainer nor venusaur as a mon

[tardy fiber]

I still think its better to slide left for daily freebie, slide right is worse

More banners on right

[winged fossil]

Yeah

I have to pray n/serena/Lillie don’t get jailed in there in the future tho

That’d be a tough pill to swallow

For six months of being teased of it

[tardy fiber]

Well if you aimed for their sc or seasonal probably the normal banner is better as its 10k iirc to get select on rerun

Cheaper than 30k paid in mix for pity

[winged fossil]

Yeah. Thankfully I already have the Alts they already have other than ncerena who I’ll grab pomaday

[tardy fiber]

Also can hopium for sc/seasonal/variety select on half anni

Costs 3k-5k paid for selects

[winged fossil]

I’m for another sc select on new years or something like ss Brendan again

Cause sc zinnia I’d like to pick up off a select if possible

[tardy fiber]

NY select costs 5k

Still cheaper than pity in mix though

[winged fossil]

Yeah…that’s why I started grabbing it now instead of later

That way my pile will be ready for the selects

I can get enough for two selects if I stay consistent with it

[tardy fiber]

Goodluck only 2 months, probably within 2 months as they probably give early New Year datamine as the staffs want to go to holiday

[winged fossil]

I’m just hoping December doesn’t empty my gemcount atp

Cause it’s possible to get double or triple favd in a mf month

Even for someone who’s at a point where they can be picky like me

Like I’m gonna be able to clear almost anything with just my favs if I include the small number of reruns I might decide to chase especially. Just still need a hoenn dps, although sc zinnia will soften the blow I feel as atleast I’ll have a hoenn nuke when I grab her on top of it being funny thief fox

Still can’t believe anime is my only hoenn limited so far.

Every other region I’ve got at least one busted limited in that I call a fav. And then there’s hoenn where I just have basically a side grade from a unova gen pool

[tardy fiber]

Im worried about Paldea

They might ramp up on new year

Not worry much about hisui, they are all sinnoh in here anyway

[vestal leaf]

5k paid per month

[lofty relic]

Please remember not to discuss the eventuality of pulling on the Mix Banner here

this is a safe space specifically for people who'd rather not get tempted, even more so when it involves real money

these kind of dialogues especially not spoiler'd are not welcome

[uneven pewter]

|| Meta wise what does she actually bring? Sure she’s a double zone setter. Big whoopdidoo, electric terrain has a lot of options and her entire kit relies on having both down. So you are either tied up with having another eterrain user with her or committing to getting piers as well. While she’s substantially better than fall iris, she still is a far cry from necessity. Outside of tapu bulu in Gauntlet and the odd CSMM there’s little content she can do that someone else can’t do better. Especially since her debuffs are ALSO tied to status conditions which means you get one or the other. You cannot have both since you need poison OR para. ||

[lofty relic]

two |

[uneven pewter]

Ty

[crisp oracle]

This is actually perfect

How many times do I plan to use her

[lost bobcat]

Yeah, it's the point of lightspenders
STILL 30k in the end is too much
If you buy continuosly the 3k daily deal you'll get almost 55k in one year
Dumping 30k in is not a good deal at all
It's worth 10 seasonal select scout or 6 big pf/limited (5k ones)

[upbeat lotus]

I find doing daily makes me less tempted for banners, so idc about the loss much

[uneven pewter]

It will get you in the feels when 30 dailies = one guaranteed on a selector

[uneven pewter]

I have to go through a process every time a unit comes out

[ashen thunder]

It's just variety red anyways

[uneven pewter]

It was actually about roxy

[ashen thunder]

Oh I thought discussion abt dailies was for Vred

[upbeat lotus]

I have a small saving for selects anyway

[vestal leaf]

Dailying a couple times here and there can be acceptable if it's like...7-8 dailies a month? 10 at max

If that's what helps you resist FOMO, it's good enough

But if you can avoid that, even better

[upbeat lotus]

Yeah ik doing dailies isnt good as much as it sounds, but i have plan for selects anyway. So it helps me resisting yolo pulls

[ashen thunder]

4 dailies to round off the last 4 point to spark maybe

More than that is bait

[vestal leaf]

Well if you can afford dailies it means you're getting the 3k bundle at least

Gaining 2k paid per month is more than enough anyway

As someone that buys it once every 3 months, I think buying it once a month means you're basically never running out of paid gems

Unless you're wasting way more than 10 dailies per month

[lost bobcat]

Are candy coins traded with mysterious stones counted in the datamine summary?

[timber wren]

it appears not

[lofty relic]

You'd have to ask @sweet tide but i don't think so no

[timber wren]

echoing this, please remember to not discuss yolo pulls and pull results in here, that can go in #gacha-and-flex or #poma-lounge

if people want to have conversations on the value of the mix banner for using their paid gems they are welcome to but please keep it focused on how to effectively use your resources, not on your excitement over getting lucky pulls on limited units

and absolutely do not tempt others into pulling on that banner, especially since it involved real money

[grim plover]

||after seeing that the mix banner has basically every pokefair/seasonal/variety im tempted to drop some gems for red. I can afford it and red + venusaur are big favs but im not sure if we should support this banner because it's the first paid only debut banner. ||

[uneven pewter]

I also do not mind giving feedback like this is if it helps someone resist the fomo temptation. If it’s alright with Cami and Dreamy and I spoiler it I don’t mind people tagging me into helping them

[sweet tide]

Nope

[timber wren]

like i said, its fine to discuss the value proposition on the mix banner

as with all daily pulls the only guarantee you have is pity, which is 30k paid gems for that banner

[shell glade]

so 10 select scouts

not worth it imo

[timber wren]

odds are good you would run into red long before hitting 300 pulls but its still a very steep investment

[shell glade]

yeah but... 10 selects

[timber wren]

98% chance to get him before 200 pulls but that is 20k paid gems, still very expensive

compared to other variety units that debut with 7.5k paid tier scouts, the odds of getting red in 75 pulls are 78%

[shell glade]

mix scouts seem like a whale feature

i'm not rich enough to whale

[timber wren]

its definitely designed for spenders but more geared towards light spenders than whales, who were targeted with the MF paid scouts

[shell glade]

fair enough

i only ever buy the orb streak bundle

not gonna bother w/ mix i think

like red venu is cool and all but out of my college student budget range

[uneven pewter]

To add to this, it’s 14k paid gems for $80 usd before tax

That is ON a good bundle

[shell glade]

yeah hard skip

[timber wren]

i mean, if youre buying the 3k and 7k bundles its $28USD for 10k gems

[shell glade]

they shouldve released him outside of mix scout

[timber wren]

which is why the mix banner is limited pulls per day, to entice those spenders to pull on it

[shell glade]

Like make him available to people who aren't spending

[grim plover]

well thank god they didnt give him a new outfit or even gmax

[shell glade]

before shuffling him into the more exclusive scout

[grim plover]

it's easy to skip

[shell glade]

i guess the hardcore lg folks are obligated to roll him

But even most of us aren't desperate enough to warrant spending that many paid gems tbh

I really don't like the idea of making any unit paid ONLY

idc if they added him to like a quad banner w/ horrible rates to entice people to spend but the idea of mix units seems slimy

f2p People would at least have a shot at getting him before he's gone

[timber wren]

so if youre buying these best value recurring gem deals its $84USD to guarantee ONE limited unit of your choice (non MF) within 60 days

which is a lot of money

if its just the 3k gem deal (best value in the game) its $40USD but it will take 200 days to accrue those gems

[shell glade]

why does it feel optimal to drop 29k gems on a mix banner and hold onto the points till you see smth you really like

something about their vibe is really weird to me and i don't think i like it

[hard wave]

I feel like most ppl would pity anyone but red/variety

[shell glade]

whoops i'm half asleep

i think vgio has more fans than red

[sand crown]

That’s steep

[hard wave]

this sounds like alot for a single character in a mobile game, ill stay f2p

[feral vale]

WHY IS THE DAILY SCOUT NOT ON THE END ANYMORE?????

[hard wave]

Yeah that was very annoying

Also I kind of hope they implement the pity carrying over to the lodge banner no reason it should reset the count tbh

[shell glade]

bc youll now be forced to see a paid banner every time you wanna do daily quests

[lofty relic]

You can send feedback ingame about that

[shell glade]

i did

and theyll probably ignore me

about the ui change i mean

[vestal leaf]

Thank god it's a variety unit

Easy skip

[shell glade]

i don't think they're changing the lodge scouts bc thats gonna cost them $

[vestal leaf]

Imagine if it was an actual alt

[hard wave]

Ik

Maybe they’ll atleast add some newer PFs?

[unkempt vortex]

Who said they won’t make it that way

They already locked rocket admins behind variety

[hard wave]

Im only missing gloria and steven but due to having 3/5 raihan idr feel like pulling them

[shell glade]

im missing gloria and adaman

i don't care for adaman

[hard wave]

Oh I dont have him either, but not worth pulling a MF for lodge

[shell glade]

i liked glaceon and flareon enough to drop some gems for irida but I already have leafon and vaporeon so no way will i ever got for him

He feels kinda uninteresting as a unit imo

[ashen thunder]

I like eeveelutions so I'll try to roll for em as long as they aren't variety

But most likely skipping this patch ones coz December might bring MFs

[shell glade]

honestly i'm gonna be skipping everything except for champ serena bc I like her design

december is probably gonna be more paldea and hisui stuff

[ashen thunder]

I personally don't like rolling for PFs these days unless it's a good double or triple banner

[shell glade]

Which i don't particularly care for other than volo

[ashen thunder]

So I can wait for eevees to get stronger banner

[sturdy flower]

did anyone calculate the total rate of limited units in the mixed banner?

[shell glade]

at least youll be getting eevee eggs for free

[ashen thunder]

0.025xtotal limited units so far

[shell glade]

sounds terrible

[ashen thunder]

I am more hyped about free eevee ticket than eggs
I don't like MC unless it's MF

[shell glade]

there's a ticket?

[crisp grotto]

Yea

[sturdy flower]

there's a ticket?

[crisp grotto]

Bingo reward

[unkempt vortex]

More mc pairs are gross

[shell glade]

you mean for the eevee girl?

[upbeat lotus]

its locked behind a special bingo

[crisp grotto]

Let's you choose randomly pull one of the 5 Veevees

[upbeat lotus]

*random

[crisp grotto]

Sorry

Random yeah

[upbeat lotus]

its like the Rocket Execs banner yeah

[ashen thunder]

I don't have any of the variety units

[sturdy flower]

but we get the eevee kid for free

[ashen thunder]

So any eevee is a win

[crisp grotto]

Same

[upbeat lotus]

Eevee Kid is from the event yeah

[sturdy flower]

wonder if she does eevee noises

[shell glade]

huh interesting

[ashen thunder]

Eevee kid is best normal zone nuker

[sturdy flower]

if next month has nothing and isn't so dry i might end up having triple eevee team

[ashen thunder]

I am smelling a Flannery alt soon
So I can't roll this month

[crisp grotto]

Flannery & Wallace alts soon

[unkempt vortex]

December will be the beginning of the new sub 20k era

[crisp grotto]

So true

[latent salmon]

normal offtyping time

[unkempt vortex]

Flannery will never get an alt

[ashen thunder]

do eevees stay during next datamine?

[latent salmon]

ontyping WHO?

variety rerun yes i believe

[ashen thunder]

oh I meant sylveon and eevee

[latent salmon]

oh

[ashen thunder]

Variety can rot in hell

[latent salmon]

idk

[vestal leaf]

Variety is still f2p achievable

[latent salmon]

personally ||i just have to play waiting game and see if coast is clear for v!kris. if not i cry ||

i failed this task once. wont fail again

...funny how she always baits me

[ashen thunder]

my rocket ticket was useless
But this one won't be

[latent salmon]

how DARE

which rocket did u get tho

[unkempt vortex]

It was more that they aren’t afraid to lock new chars behind variety

[ashen thunder]

Petrel

[latent salmon]

oh nvm yeah fair reaction

[ashen thunder]

But I don't do gauntlet so

Eevees are atleast more usable regardless of what I get

Rocket was actual gamble

[vestal leaf]

Yeah petrel is the worst one to get for most players

[latent salmon]

rocket ticket for me was 75% chance of death for my acc 25% chance of salvation

guess what i got

[unkempt vortex]

Gio

[latent salmon]

...not wrong

just not from the ticket

[ashen thunder]

Me coping next half anni gonna have free MF selector

[unkempt vortex]

That’s never happening

At most some free tickets or MAYBE pf ticket with limited pool

[ashen thunder]

They gave raihan in free selector
So it's possible

Raihan is stronger unit than all of year 1 MFs except luSSa

[unkempt vortex]

Have no expectations

Then you can’t be disappointed

[ashen thunder]

[onyx tinsel]

If they made the 100 gem pull for the mix scout free/locked behind doing dailies instead of paid...this would of been hailed as the greatest day in the games history.

[upbeat lotus]

thats many steps closer to eos

[vernal glade]

I can agree.

[onyx tinsel]

Absolutely not

[upbeat lotus]

[onyx tinsel]

Free summons doesn't mean eos

300 days for a free select unit isn't exactly game breaking

[latent salmon]

actually OP in a bad way

[lost bobcat]

I think they just don't know how to raise profits and they're trying new stuff to force us burning paid gems
But imo it's a bad move on long terms bcs tiered scouts are almost meaningless now

[vestal leaf]

I just wanted Ariana

I got lucky

So I'm expecting to get the worst eevee

(flareon)

To compensate

[tardy fiber]

They give us free lodge select on half anni and on anni, much lesser than 300 days

Oh wait its champion select

For half anni

Hope they do it again, gonna grab lance or diantha if they become lodge guest in the future

Oh bede also might be a good choice, as marnie did become lodge guest

[unkempt vortex]

This is a problem for the games that separate free and paid currency

By separating currency you would have to give an incentive to used paid currency for something exclusive to it

[tardy fiber]

At least our battle points is free, many other games lock stuffs behind battle pass and that battle pass costs real money

Although paid gems and free gems difference are also adopted by final fantasy war of the visions, like they are banners that can only use paid gems in it.

Genshin have costumes that are locked behind paid currency iirc just its purely cosmetic and no additional power boost given

[unkempt vortex]

In bleach brave souls you can pay for orbs but no banner is locked behind them it’s free and paid are considered the same

Iirc FEH does the same thing

Although I haven’t played that in years so who knows they could’ve changed it

[tardy fiber]

Although mix red is similar like scarlet witch sigil in marvel contest of champions as that character can only be purchased using battle pass currency and you need to buy a few months of battle pass using real money to have enough for exchanging it

[unkempt vortex]

And there’s also some games that separate them but don’t have exclusive banners just make a paid only daily that’s half off

[tardy fiber]

But i think it still wont impact poma much, mostly because there's no pvp here...on the game i mentioned before, it did incite rage as there's pvp in them

So yeah you got mix red and can show on trainer profile but that's it...even if he helps to clear cs in 10 seconds, it still only affect your own gameplay and doesn't affect other people experience

Not like it helps to reach top 1% rank in pvp thus net you to get better rewards

[unkempt vortex]

This game isn’t built for pvp with how the gameplay is

Whereas card games like duel links and marvel snap that’s the primary target

[tardy fiber]

Yep on those other games i mentioned, does have pvp rank so top ranking will give more currency in which they can use to pull more

So f2p ppl will only eat crumbs

[unkempt vortex]

Depends on what the rewards are

Some games have pvp where the rewards are nice but not needed

[tardy fiber]

Like master duel, the meta always shifting...when the packs appeared then all whales use the same deck

[latent salmon]

if pvp happens in poma i want it to be like this:

-> Every pair other than base valerie, cheren, and all base 3* are banned.
-> No rewards at all literally just bragging rights

that's the only way it can work without breaking the game TRUST

[unkempt vortex]

We already have that with gauntlet and high score

[tardy fiber]

I like that poma in which most hard contents are bragging rights...like gauntlet, more streaks and you got more with minimum amount every streak,
then for high score, here is your master ball badge that only obtainable once
And upcoming anabel, here is one of the hardest fight ever congrats you got 300 gems
15k cs increase, here is your extra spirits

[lost bobcat]

Yeah but I feel like they're just shifting attention on a better deal rather than adding more tempting stuff
I don't think there's much gain in the long run
The banner kills fomo aswell
Mid-spender can pity any unit whenever they want now (within a month) with a good chance getting tons of other stuff
Like having even the previous month released units in it, sound so wrong

[latent salmon]

whats the point of gacha for the company if they cant fomo their way into making people pull?

[lost bobcat]

Exactly

[latent salmon]

mix is scary

[tardy fiber]

Kinda nice though, no need to wait years for ssleon, anniskyla or celesa rerun

[unkempt vortex]

This isn’t a problem to me

Well

The mix banner doesn’t surprise me because I’ve played bleach brave souls

[latent salmon]

it feels like a marketing stunt. gain loyalty of the spenders.

[unkempt vortex]

And any unit that isn’t limited is auto added to gen pool on release so unless you really want them there’s a chance you’ll get them later

[tardy fiber]

Oh right its similar to the banner you mentioned before

[unkempt vortex]

Yes

Those filler chars were limited units released earlier this year or December last year

And the other % was everything in gen pool

[tardy fiber]

They probably copy it, thats why 6 months lineup rotation here

[unkempt vortex]

Mix being some units first rerun is funny

[tardy fiber]

I wonder if next 6 months, the limited line up in mix will be more concentrated like it only has November - April pairs

[unkempt vortex]

A big problem with this game is rerun schedule

[tardy fiber]

Like this is their first appearance thats why they dump everything

[lost bobcat]

Not even for me, it's more a general talk on how Dena is running things

[unkempt vortex]

If you don’t get someone on release they’re in jail until dena feels like it

Considering they rerun red and diantha like every 3 months or less

[tardy fiber]

Thats why i think some will appreciate mix due to this

[lost bobcat]

That's actually good for business, it keep ppl playing checking and eventually spend on something else

[tardy fiber]

Redlax keep rerunning although the type pokefair for Gauntlet already covered with newer pairs

[unkempt vortex]

I’d argue it’s not

[lost bobcat]

I mean it's the entire fomo business

[unkempt vortex]

Well yes

Ofc it goes with the business but keeping units locked for potentially years might drive people away

[lost bobcat]

Years is just weird sure

[tardy fiber]

They can still grab FoMo through F2P players, master fair and select scouts...plus its hard to get certain pair in mix unless you choose via pity

Like of you only want a certain seasonal pair and dont have much paid, better just wait for the festive season and spend 10k paid doing tiered

10k cheaper than 30k

[lost bobcat]

I patiently wait for 3k seasonal scouts
With time the old tiered seasonal may gain some more value

[spring lodge]

3000 gems, I need pity until duo feature (I won't make it) but why not try to get enough for some rolls

[lost bobcat]

Sure the newer tiered ones are not worth

(At least for me)

Maybe for uber fav (nah not even that)

[tardy fiber]

True there's that way too, just wait for select scout...mix is just for people that want red or certain pokefair that doesnt rerun for years or those that dont have much limited pairs...if you only want certain pair, waiting for select or do rerun tiered are still the better option

Also if lack of free gems and suddenly holiday pair with iron bundle or something appear and you have not many free gems, although you have paid gems but newly released seasonal pair paid tiered is horrendous with total need 20k+ paid gems iirc

That way can wait for select or do mix if you cannot afford to wait December next year

[lost bobcat]

Last anni seasonal selects included up to palentine and spring (special costumes)

Which was quite surprising
SCLyra was a huge fav I missed bcs I don't do tiered

[tardy fiber]

Yep thats why i said can wait for select, as that and mix are still better option that doing full tiered on newly released seasonal

I did it once for summer tate

Spent 20k+ paid

I did it because my paid gems almost reached the 80k limit

As i bought coin bundle a few times

Only get 2/5 tate for 20k+ paid gems

[lost bobcat]

Well, better than 1/5 ig

[tardy fiber]

And the only other 5* that can spook me in the tate banner are just general pool 5*, in this situation better mixup as i can get other limited in it... although select is still better to get specific ones

[feral vale]

Richu said PoMa beat FEH in that regard

[dark cliff]

Ack… so many good pairs. I want Toxicitry, but would rather have an OP master fair in December, guess I have to save for now and hope for a re run.

[hard wave]

mRed = 2%
Special Costumes = 0.325%
Pokefairs = 1.525% + 2.727% (for the 3 4*s)
Variety = 0.425%
Seasonals = 0.95%
Total = 5.225% I think

[sturdy flower]

that's... somehow less than I expected

[hard wave]

Its a 7% 5* rate so

[sturdy flower]

not bad, just totally random units make it a high chance to get something I don't care about

that probably won't function at 1/5 anyways

*won't function better than my current options

[ashen thunder]

For 5* non rate up limited it's like 3.225

What a gamble

if I were to remove 3/5 seasonals, SCs and 5/5 PFs...getting a good spook looks like around 2.5% to get smth workable for me atleast

[hard wave]

There’s maybe 12 PFs I want that r in the banner, so thats like 0.3% for me tho I hv like 2 seasonals and there’s quite a few I wouldnt mind

I dont spend anyway so

[languid quail]

Is it okay to just spend my stones? Don't i need a certain number of stones to continue the story?

[hard wave]

It says it wont affect it

[languid quail]

Cheers

[vestal leaf]

You just need to do 40 training areas every months to keep on par anyway

[ashen thunder]

Just farm skill feather during dead days

[languid quail]

I got 200+ before spending

[languid quail]

On par with what exactly?

[hard wave]

More like 3-4

U get 3 a day from region daily

[unkempt vortex]

Simply do nothing but training area

Then you don’t have to worry about stones

[hard wave]

Or if u do training area after events dw abt it

Im at like 70 smth rn iirc and I alr got all the coins certs and PUs

[lost bobcat]

Mysterious Stones
Candy Coin Shards

[tough oriole]

Candy coin coins

[pure arrow]

not to go too off-topic but chocolate coins

[spring lodge]

4200 GEMS

[crisp oracle]

New heights

[crisp oracle]

Discord is incapable of basic addition

[fallen path]

7 is the new 3

[hard wave]

Quite chaotic

[tardy fiber]

Discord, my discord sometimes hang while searching for emojis

[winged fossil]

Still have the two new roles to grab from monthly, got gladion to lv61. Getting close to that tech candy!

[warm scarab]

Man that mixed banner is like a drug. I had 3000 paid saved yesterday I'm on 1000🥹

I'm not doing more than daily tomorrow yall gotta hold me accountable 😂

[winged fossil]

just remember its 30k paid to pity which is 6-10 selects depending on the select type!

[vestal leaf]

^

[winged fossil]

very easy to resist when you look at it that way

[vestal leaf]

Pity carrying over also means there's no rush to scout now

[winged fossil]

yeah, even if you want the featured unit you can stall for almost 5 months and still have time to pity, too

so no rush

[vestal leaf]

Take it easy and remember it's only 5% to get a limited, which you should have at least a 1/3rd of already

Good chances are you might get a useless dupe

Actually 3.25% for old limiteds

I wouldn't even bother if you aren't in it for Red

[winged fossil]

(X 5/5 unit here) incoming

or 4/5 or 5/5 on a expansionless unit like a seasonal

[vestal leaf]

The thought of getting 4-5/5 seasonals alone pushed me away from doing more than 1/400

SCs too

1/300 actually I guess

[winged fossil]

even if a fav lands in there i dont think im gonna bother with it cause fine print makes it where they can leave mix-exclusivity any day DENA wishes

[warm scarab]

My account is only 4 months old so playing that roulette is very tempting

almost everything I don't have since I pulled mostly MFs

Lol

[winged fossil]

still way less value than selects or even tiered reruns IMO

[warm scarab]

Yea so I'm thinking my strategy is going to just be the daily and save all the 1000 bonus from bundle for select

Hence I had 3k

[winged fossil]

||if it wasnt paid only then itd be a pretty good deal,|| but its paid for a reason

[warm scarab]

But

Nah tomorrow no more haha just the daily

[winged fossil]

1k/mo is not enough to keep up with selects as we get them, esp since we get 5k x25 ones nowadays most of the time

[warm scarab]

It's actually 1.5k per month lol

[winged fossil]

literally takes just over 3 bundles to cover NY (assuming we dont get 3 banners instead of 2 this year)

[vestal leaf]

I kinda wish mix was 300 single non paid, 100 single paid and 5 singles paid tbh

No wait nvm

3000 paid multi?

Mhhh

I just don't like how there's literally no non paid option at all

300 per single non paid would make 30k non paid pity every 6 months actually decently tempting

I feel

[winged fossil]

this fine print alone is enough no matter the cost for me to just ignore it

||even if a fav lands in there id hesitate unless im around the paid gem limit, which would take me a long time to hit||

[vestal leaf]

Yeah same

If the banner had 300x1 non paid i would pull on it for a fave tho

3 months of diluted bleeding for a fave + 3% of other limiteds would be actually not that bad I feel

[winged fossil]

itd be like 3 months old by time nonpaid gets pity if that were the case, but either way thats a MASSIVE if

[vestal leaf]

If it wasn't paid gems

[vestal leaf]

I mean 3 months is fine, since it would be 30k

Instead of 36k

I'd cope about it

[winged fossil]

as i said before, the only chance i see of them changing it is if its a MASSIVE flop financially

[vestal leaf]

But paid only is just zzzzz

[winged fossil]

which i doubt it would flop vs denas expectation for it

[vestal leaf]

They need at least 3-5 months to determine if something is a flop anyway

[winged fossil]

especially since its a bit on the predatory end vs most of the other stuff we've seen, id be surprised if the results dont overperform denas expectation ngl cause this is the exact type of thing thats gonna be harder to resist for addicts of certain types...
its quite scary how accurately gachas can target people.

dailies blur the line on how expensive something is in a predatory way imo.

and im sure theres a lot of people out there thatd agree on that statement

i can also see some people basically being forced to take a almost 6 month break from the game (or at least from spending) if their fav lands in the banner, but either way i dont think ill go any further into the subject for now. ranted enough already elsewhere on the internet about predatory things, lol.

[vestal leaf]

I just realized

Mix might be where the next Cynthia, Lillie, N and Marnie alt might be

[languid quail]

🥹

[winged fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-steve-carell-no-no-god-please-no-gif-25861594

me as a Lillie, N, Serena fan:
i think Gladion prob gonna be the trainer i put as my 4th trainer fav these days. although his alts are very unlikely so i can prob squeeze a fifth trainer in at some point

ill wait till after december MFs to figure out any possible fifths though

cause theres a small chance that december makes me bankrupt on freegems

[broken mulch]

If there’s a Cynthia I can’t get at all I think that would make me drop the game lol

[vestal leaf]

I think Serena is safe for a while

Kalos is not too shilled, and she got recent reruns of her BIG units

[vestal leaf]

See I don't get this a lot

If we got a variety tier Clair in mix I'd skip and keep playing because glorified bps don't count as new units in my book

[broken mulch]

I came here for my waifus and husbando collections

[vestal leaf]

Yeah but I don't like investing possibly 36k in my biggest fave just for it to be the same 1:1 character model

I can play with og Clair for that

If it's a BP or free pair I'll take it tho

Like I happily took BP olivia

But I'll never scout the same 1:1 character in this game and sadly can't understand who does

[broken mulch]

Multiple versions of the base character you love

That’s it

[tardy fiber]

Lodge pair is nice too .so happy to get second Gladion this month

[versed flame]

my muscle memory of swiping left from the first scout screen to the daily scout is broken now

since they put the mix scout at the end

[hard wave]

Same, I go to the daily scout then mix scout jumpscare

[violet nebula]

Yea, marketing ploy no doubt

That is well done on Denas part

Trying to break us savers/ create spenders with a seemingly insignificant amount of gems

[broken mulch]

Muscle memory double swipe left lol

[tawny cedar]

Wth is that mixed scout thing?

[rare swan]

Paid-gem only scout with every non-MF unit in the game

[tawny cedar]

Oh

Can't roll it then

[uneven pewter]

📌

[feral vale]

I mean, why do you think you should?

[tawny cedar]

It sounds cool

[uneven pewter]

Realistically it’s actually a lucrative banner for newbies and that’s the point

One spook is a huge win for a fresh account

But veterans is a giant blackhole of despair

The odds of getting a pair you want let alone the featured pair is abysmal

I can hear the gutteral frustration now of anyone drawing summer lyra or holiday siebold

[tawny cedar]

Tbh

I wouldn't mind either

Octilerry is a cool fella and slyra has cute outfit

But metawise yeah shit to get

[rare swan]

I'm a veteran and it doesn't bother me, but I'm not going to talk about pulling on it here

[ashen thunder]

Newbie would rather wait 6 months for a 3k paid select than whatever mix banner is

[rare swan]

the main thing is just ignore it if you don't like it

[tawny cedar]

I don't need to ignore it

I have no paid gems anyways

[uneven pewter]

I only talk about it to deter who i can from thinking it’s a good idea

[strange trout]

Still better than dailies on regular banners kekw

[ashen thunder]

Well
Dailies are like biggest bait

[rare swan]

Paid gems and their usage are a hard subject to advise on because everyone's financial situation is different

free gems, we're all playing on the same field

[uneven pewter]

Well they just made mixed banner dailies with actual value

That’s sort of why it’s defused a lot of the initial outrage

[ashen thunder]

What value
Are you saying 3-4 days of throwing gems at it would guarantee a new "limited" unit?

Most veterans would have fairly large pool of limited so realistically the chance to get useful stuff would be less than triple pokefair banner

[rare swan]

if you're pulling on that banner for a specific unit or to get 'good' units you're doing it wrong

the fun of that banner is the roulette of not knowing what will pop up

but like I said, it's not really an easy topic to advise on - no shame either way whether you use it or not

[hard wave]

Same and must keep f2p status

[tawny cedar]

I lost f2p status long back when I bought story bundle

But that's the only purchase i made

Then I go broke

[uneven pewter]

30 days of dailies can yield 0 results. Technically 300 dailies will yield one pity. It’s a crappy pity that tastes bad but it’s at least tangible with no zero sum

[hard wave]

Yeah dailies on the mixed banner r much more worth it since eventually u can actually get smth, and prob alot more along the way

[maiden kayak]

tho be careful the mix banner especially ppl who are dolphins and minnows

those can gobble gems real fast

mix banner is honestly not even worth given the fact its variety same outfit

[oak crest]

its basically variety but slapped with a premium tag

altho it doesnt look like premium with how lazy they are on it

[maiden kayak]

yea

[timber wren]

it feels strategic to not have him with a new outfit/ex style/mon bc the backlash for him being paid only would’ve been even larger

also why we got accessible grassy terrain before him too

[hard wave]

It seems like evb pulling wants almost anyone but him

[uneven pewter]

I agree, especially since it’s an alt for a trainer that has already received plenty of alts and a pokemon that has already been paired before

[sand crown]

Not to mention, the Venusaurs have things in common kit wise

[versed flame]

tfw you end up getting ss leaf instead

[hard wave]

That actually happened to splgum

[ashen thunder]

It's funny how everyone wants offrate eventho red is busted as hell

Atleast I am glad the variety unit is being ignored

[hard wave]

Imo he’s nice to get if u lack grassy terrain, but also ss ace and even hwhitney r in that banner

[ashen thunder]

doesn't egg leafeon set terrain

[hard wave]

eggmons bad oh yeah true

[ashen thunder]

I didn't read their kits yet....I hope they didn't give sun and ignore field on em

[compact pasture]

F2P?

[crisp grotto]

Yes & so does supp Sprigatito from last month

[hard wave]

Support sprig sets it too if u have it

I do hope we get a grassy terrain gen pool eventually tho, like w brassius milo or trevor

We hv volkner and bianca so its not impossible

[ashen thunder]

I am coping for all zones in gen pool

drasna should have been zone setter

[uneven pewter]

The real prize being if you sack bulurola but yea again. The banner is big time bait

[pure arrow]

Are Silver and Lyra the only non-limited non-Techs that can set WTZ?

by Limited I also mean F2P limiteds like the Eevees, Victrier, and the Paldea starters

[hard wave]

Courtney, winona, may, bianca, volkner

Also silver is striker

[pure arrow]

I know, I said “non-tech”

[hard wave]

Oh

Uh I think so then

[pure arrow]

dang

[ashen thunder]

Paldea egg starters

Oh wait

Gen pool is kind of bare bones with setters to begin with
They also have been pretty hesitant since courtney happened

[pure arrow]

every setter after her has been time limited I think

[uneven pewter]

Because Courtney was actually good

Shocking right

[ashen thunder]

Every gen pool after her also has been not a game changer

Closest is Olympia and she's like thrown into a super competitive typing

Before courtney they were releasing Sonia, sserika

[vestal leaf]

And

Uh

Looker
SS misty
Falkner

[ashen thunder]

You had to specifically pick em out....even then falkner isn't even bad
He had wide offensive coverage and flinch

The time he was out, best support was like ingo and sabrina

The gen pool stuff releasing back then matched the power level of limited units that existed or atleast close

The stuff post courtney arent specifically noticable coz limiteds all got way stronger and they were sitting at 2021 power levels
I can't even say anyone special outside gordie and Olympia, rest are all niche or just mid

[hard wave]

Does drasna hv good poison dps? Hopefully better than looker’s

[ashen thunder]

I doubt it being better than looker ontype.....both use 110 BP moves and se reliant

[hard wave]

[ashen thunder]

If you are using F2P poison, it's just Roxie for physical and Koga for special

[hard wave]

Yeah ive just been trying roxie w sonia and ariana, who’s my only limited poison atm due to the rocket ticket

[ashen thunder]

drasna should have gotten dragon zone or 1 stage dragon rebuff

[hard wave]

Prob want to give smb else dragon zone first besides lucas ig

But also courtney is the first and one of the only 2 who can set ground zone

[ashen thunder]

I mean
Considering drasna's performance

She'd be not as good as lucas

Even if she had zone/rebuff

Only thing that'd make you consider her over him would be team dauntless but she has mid as hell damage for current power level

Ontop of being se reliant for some of mods

[tardy jolt]

I’ve decided that I’d go for those only if it’s Cynthia, Diantha or N, may push it to Nemona and Serena if I really like the Pokémon, otherwise it’s just another variety, I only buy the 3k bundle and the occasional celebration bundle, so it’s definitely not the best way to spend my paid gems

[vestal leaf]

Well I can argue about bertha, Darach and Sidney too tbh

They cover f2p niches but like

They're not great either

Also

[ashen thunder]

Sidney was great on release
Innate soften up sync and potion utility nuker

But yea other 2 were misses

[crisp grotto]

Sydney's TM was super ahead of it's time too

[vestal leaf]

Sidney was and still is worse than royale

[crisp grotto]

Guess it makes up for the lack of DPS

[vestal leaf]

Also, Falkner released after Kiawe and Elio

Idk, I consider both of them way better

Like, WAAAAY better

Than him

[ashen thunder]

Sidney+MR comp was better than any dark comp at that time

[vestal leaf]

Except you can run solo royale and it still works great

[ashen thunder]

Coz Karen was coping in the corner

[vestal leaf]

Solo Sidney sucks

[ashen thunder]

No he doesn't

[vestal leaf]

He's worse off than royale solo

I don't like running pity units

That are there to act as duo DPS while being just a weaker version of the main DPS

[ashen thunder]

But MR doesn't even have crit buff....how does he solo CS?

I've seen Sidney solos

But no MR

[vestal leaf]

I didn't mean solo CS ofc

I meant solo DPS

Ofc

[ashen thunder]

Solo dps when you can double dps

[vestal leaf]

You yourself started talking about back when we had fewer units

[vestal leaf]

Looker does barely 1/10th more

Drasna doesn't cost gauge tho

Fun fact

Drasna sync offtype does as much as looker ontype, he just does it AoE

[ashen thunder]

Oh I did mention ontype

if using offtype coz fav it doesn't matter how strong they are anyways

[vestal leaf]

Yeah I meant ontype

Drasnas sync is dragon so I confronted drasna offtype Vs looker ontype vs poison weak

For sync

For DPS ofc both ontype

Looker barely wins

[warm scarab]

I'm not spending more than daily on mix banner today

I need to keep saying that 😂

[vestal leaf]

Don't do that either

It's not worth

Most of those units are either already in your possession, very bad or very bad at 1/5

You're also fighting between a 2% red, a 3.25% of 128 units and 1.75% of gen pools

[warm scarab]

I did play this game because it's got a gambling element haha otherwise like let's get real here...

[vestal leaf]

Gambling on dailies is just throwing money away tho

[warm scarab]

I'm OK with 7.5 a month lol

Something like $4 usd

[vestal leaf]

I'd rather save that money on selects

Every month where you do 1 daily every day is a 3k select gone

[warm scarab]

Is there like a data summary on how many select in a year? Or need to scroll through all the past datamine

I saw about 10 scrolling through 12 months

Limited ones that is

[ashen thunder]

you can expect selects on half anni and anni

[warm scarab]

And like 4 of them 5000 gems

So need like 40k Ish

[ashen thunder]

you don't have to try and roll all selects

If select doesn't have a unit you like, you can skip it entirely

a lot of cases, most people only end up rolling 4-5 selects per year

[warm scarab]

So realistically if you only want to spend on sync orb daily bundle only you can only daily for 3 months and rest needs to be saved 😂

[ashen thunder]

I'd personally recommend skipping dailies entirely

Saves lot of money

[warm scarab]

OK I'm trying to think about my strategy here. I guess I'm still ok with rolling for daily and save the 1000. And if the datamine shows an absolute gem select I'm wanting and im short I can buy the coin bundle.

Just make more money irl

[unkempt vortex]

Just stop being poor

[warm scarab]

@ashen thunder just skip your McDonald's for one day

A month

[tardy fiber]

And new year

[summer goblet]

10 pity reached, well get 380k by end of Nov

[crisp grotto]

Hot damn

Very impressive

[summer goblet]

Thanks

[compact pasture]

How long have you been saving?

[summer goblet]

Since September

Spent quite a lot

Now i am on save mode

[violet nebula]

Says spent a lot

Has 360k gems....🤣

[vestal leaf]

This is how much I'd have if I wasn't shafted so much in late 2022 mid 2023

[violet nebula]

19k short is a shafting?🤔

Damn you guys, nailing it in savings, more than 99.5% of players and still think like that... that thinking is just brutal 😅

I hope the happy is more than the sad

[vestal leaf]

361k is my Water HS record

Lol

I'm at 185k

I pitied like 7-8 times the last 14 months

Got really unlucky since NC calem

[violet nebula]

That is still solid. You will recover for sure

[vestal leaf]

Ik, but pitying like 5 master fairs and almost (pity + 330/400) 2 Seasonals in a year sucks

[sturdy hatch]

Good Ghetsis haul

[tardy fiber]

Nice thats a lot, i will farm on kalos VA rerun

[vestal leaf]

3600 ? I would've rather invested in 🪶 s

[sturdy hatch]

Feathers are the other option, but the legend EX and boost events have the best rates

[vestal leaf]

Yeah I stopped farming them when I hit 600

Since I'm 99% never gonna run out from there on

[sturdy flower]

using feathers is such a hassle i kinda just don't

[tardy fiber]

I only use rainbow feathers, because it doesn't have any RNG

[vestal leaf]

Eh it's a better way to invest stamina than other stages imo

Once you get to 5-700+ there's no other endgame

^ setups like these are pretty funny to pull off and do help making big numbers bigger

[versed flame]

yes true the feathers are fun to mess around with

especially if you have a character/team in mind

though they're absolutely not necessary they're fun

and help you get more out of your existing units which is nice

[near oriole]

DID WE GET FREE EEVEE TICKETS OR IT PAID? ON 21

[upbeat lotus]

we get one paid and one free

the free one is from bingo missions

[lost bobcat]

Wow, I farmed bronze tickets since forever but still below 1k (now farming feathers)

[lost bobcat]

Just go random and you get good rolls at certain point
And ignore the ever pin

But sure are a worth powerboost if you have already enough lvlup mats

Right today I got #1012311116778586182 message
Just keep rerolling for better

[vestal leaf]

I bought three pins because I'm pretty much constantly at 220+ gold tickets anyway

And my RNG is ass

So I locked a Phys moves +3% bracelet, crit moves 3% bandana and critastrophe 3% pin

[lost bobcat]

Eventually raw stats are good enough if you don't get good rng with passives

[vestal leaf]

Yeah like, here bracelet is just for +70

[spring lodge]

5k!!!🤩

Saving for may

[spring lodge]

6k legendary arena saved me 🤩

[tawny cedar]

I got 5k as well rn

Morty left me crippled but my pity will be ready for anything December

[summer goblet]

Keep saving up your gems my brethren

As our desired sync pair shall show us the light

And it shall all be worth it in the end

[unkempt vortex]

Not if they don’t rerun them ever again

[lean mango]

there are so few pairs that technically will never rerun again, better to stay prepared

[tardy fiber]

I probably need to prepare some pities for collab pair, like pogo collab or something

[winged fossil]

i forgot to do a day of Lodge with gladion, oops. oh well, i was ahead of schedule anyway

pretty sure i did the daily stage and such yesterday anyways

...oh, unless i missed a tech some other week i mighta missed an entire day of daily. oh well if so.

dont remember for sure if i did it post-reset last night or not

[winged fossil]

Ash & Pikachu rerun chance: like 1 in a fucking million

Collab pairs are the hardest to rerun in gacha anyway. I have to be ready for if we someday get a fav as a collab

I’m hoping for anything but VFlare on eevee ticket but I’ll still take whoever they give us. Mostly cause lodge irida is already a pretty good flareon pair.

4/5 chance to be super happy is really good odds for me

And 1/5 is just happy

[lost bobcat]

Imo Ash rerun will happen
I think the chances of a rerun are higher than the chances we had to get Ash in the first place
Fifth anni shoudl be a big celebration, maybe they'll do an anime collab bringing Liko and Roy and rerunning Ash

[hard wave]

I think he’d rerun if he was still in the show unless him and team rocket return in horizons idk

[oak crest]

idk man... when ash debutted TR was still in the show but they never reran

[lost bobcat]

Give em a grid first

[hard wave]

Yeah but if they ever return it’d be big

[grim plover]

Ash would need another anime for him to rerun imo. It would be another collab, I don't think dena can rerun him without permission. They couldnt even keep his music lol

[ashen thunder]

They didn't rerun Jessie and James when Ash reran

So there's no guarantee that even during anime collab we are getting ash rerun

[spring lodge]

Wooooo!!

[gloomy holly]

Yo guys, I have returned, what did I miss? (At 8k+ gems right now)

[warm scarab]

Why is that dena can have all the other characters but not ash

[hard wave]

Cuz they r all game characters, ash and team rocket r from the anime so they cant use them…. Even tho its the same franchise

[winged fossil]

Anime is different rights holder than games or something along those lines

[warm scarab]

I see

[tardy fiber]

Got my most wanted pair this month, shiny diglett... probably helpful if ground HS appear

[winged fossil]

1am reset? fall back happened tn i assume, just noticed my clock

[tardy fiber]

My country didn't have any daylight saving time so its the same for me

[vernal glade]

Same here

Should happen next reset tho.

[tardy fiber]

Phew, finished claiming all of the nice stuffs in ssroxie event shop, just in time before iris alt event next reset

I forgotten about that event, is there any event shop in it

[sturdy flower]

i think it was a box event and i hope I'm wrong

[tardy fiber]

Urgh rng event

[fallen path]

I don’t mind the 1am resets tbh

[vernal glade]

I think reset begins at midnight now instead of 1 I think.

That’s if I’m correct

[fallen path]

Worst coast folks get 10pm resets now

[sand crown]

I didn’t even realize DST ended. 1am resets are hype

[lunar thistle]

Resetting are 2 pm for me still

[uneven pewter]

I really wish they didn’t do this

It’s like

LEAVE THE RESETS ALONE

1am is fine

[hard wave]

I wish they kept it at this time bcz its at 12 AM for me

[lost bobcat]

None did nothing, UTC never changed

[hard wave]

Guess ill enjoy the next 4 datamines being early

[lost bobcat]

Here in euw it's at 8am during dailight saving and 7am now

[unkempt vortex]

Why would you want them later

[tough oriole]

12am resets are gonna be so fun, 1am resets were a pain

[fallen path]

Same except replace those numbers with 1am and 2am

[winged fossil]

worst coast?

[tough oriole]

Wait i meant to say datamine instead of reset (we’re in the same timezone )

[fallen path]

Because I live in the b(east) coast

[hard wave]

Datamine will be 11 PM for me and 12 AM for reset

[unkempt vortex]

Better coast

[pure arrow]

average Shellos debate

[broken mulch]

12 am datamine and 1 PM for reset

[vernal glade]

Agreed, now the wait is shorter.

[uneven pewter]

I am just glad I have stuff to distract me while I save

keeps me off the fomo wagon

[gloomy holly]

Firstly, you have to know the rules of this channel

[lunar thistle]

?

[gloomy holly]

They deleted their message

[lunar thistle]

Anyways I'm finally above 3k gems again

[gloomy holly]

Mmmmm, good start

[lunar thistle]

Dunno how long it will end in tho

[lost bobcat]

[latent salmon]

preferably, you'll never drop below 3k ever again

[lunar thistle]

Itchy finger

[rare swan]

close the game when it starts to happen

[lunar thistle]

Anyway let's see if we can get to one pity at the very least

[lost bobcat]

You can if you want to

[latent salmon]

think of reasons to skip new unitd

even if its something like you dont like their hair or something

[upbeat lotus]

Or make punishment on yourself if you spend gems like 20/20 Acerola

[lost bobcat]

Trade one Ever Pin

[lunar thistle]

Well good thing this month, given that Hydreigon, Greninja and Toxtricity disgust me

But I cracked before because last banner I liked both Victini and Kyurem-Black

[tawny cedar]

Is our current average gem count per month 20k

[upbeat lotus]

the average is ~23k

[tawny cedar]

Hmm

I guess I'll be ready for any surprise mf next month

[sturdy flower]

even 3?

[timber wren]

the year average per month is 29k #1010223517565976737

but that factors in bigger gem months like half anni and anni

[vestal leaf]

^

[winged fossil]

wow only got to pool 6 54/159 today, kinda sad that the event doesnt even have much in the pools of interest besides a single support coin

kinda wish they just made an event shop for this sort of old event

rather than it being rng how much time we have to spend on the event

[spring lodge]

WOOHOO!!

[winged fossil]

Resource update since I haven’t really posted one in a little while

Haven’t done my cs for the week yet nor villa

[lost bobcat]

I'm at 5
I fkn hate prize box events

Event map event were fun at least

[tardy fiber]

Im stuck at 6, it got like 159 prizes or something

Finally got my shiny machop, so all new shinies from ground fighting event are obtained...so i only left lodge gladion in 30 more lodge levels, Eve, 1 free variety eeveelution and 8 eeveelutions eggmons this month to keep me entertained

[feral vale]

I hate prize box events now

[hard wave]

I want to grind spheres, esp since I only need 600 to finish off my 5*s (may need some more tho, like for lodge gladion, eve, and wtvr free eeVee I get)

Atleast we get 200

[lost bobcat]

I'll grind feathers but...
300 stamina for 10 clears is reeaaaally unfair

[hard wave]

its like one feather right?

Theme skill stage is also quite low, 7 per stg while maxing one unit out is 240/300 w some being 120/180 but not many iirc

Too bad we dont get training area boost anymore

[lost bobcat]

1 base + 0~2 extra

Usually you get 2 per clear

[hard wave]

I still havent touched skill gear, I just used 1 yellow feather on one set and left it I do still get custom feathers and gears that r in the exchange shops tho

[lost bobcat]

This sound really sus
No more boosts, no more bonanza, no feather event
They're cutting resources?

[hard wave]

What feather event?

[unkempt vortex]

Above daily orbs

[lost bobcat]

The first and only one we got (where we got extra skill gears)
Since we had no bonanza that time I taught it was going to rotate
Like one month we get cookies and the other feathers

[hard wave]

#1012256199128915968 message oh this

[lost bobcat]

Yep

[hard wave]

I think our last bonanza and rally were july and our last training area boost was in august?

[lost bobcat]

Yep right before anni

[hard wave]

And also lower gem counts (or the same, but they still feel low), more units, gemless rallies and when there is gems in rallies it comes at the start of the next update since kalos VA I think

[tardy fiber]

Luckily i still dont have any variety fave so the pairs that tempts me every month is still the same like usual but i dreaded for the day when they finally released variety faves

[crisp oracle]

Mix Faves for me as I don’t spend cash

[tardy fiber]

At least im glad that its only 1 mix pair in 6 months, it will be crueler if its 1 new mix pair every month

[lost bobcat]

Variety are usually ordinary mons and the fact there's no outfit neither EX color swap is an overall big no even if fav
Ball guy was the exception

[tardy fiber]

They can do frontier brains variety and most of em have legendaries

[lost bobcat]

[tardy fiber]

Variety anabel with Raikou, entei

[pure arrow]

Tbh
the only frontier brain varieties we have so far are paired with non-Legends

[lost bobcat]

Palmer

But at least no crappy variety

[tardy fiber]

Oh the ultra recon squad guys are alsp kinda variety material and i can see they shoving UBs to them

[lost bobcat]

Hope we'll get a feee variety next year

After all, if you don't pull the first time I think is hard someone is going to pull yhem again

[tardy fiber]

Hope its a select so that i can choose between ball guy, proton, petrel, ariana

[upbeat lotus]

We are going to get one free variety wdym

[unkempt vortex]

They’ll never do a select

[lost bobcat]

Ye I meant select above all variety