Ok
#Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)
vestal leaf
So
3/5 at least has a serviceable nuke? Kinda?
1/5 is just awful
So if you wanna use him I GUESS
You want 3/5
Ok yeah I confirm
3/5 nuke is good
I guess if he's fave he's a better investment than irida who's ok at 1/5 already
tardy fiber
Yes but only till 3/5 though, 4/5 or 5/5 is only if DeNa give free fair select
grand bramble
If I lie to myself again... Then I'm sorry
But I hope datamine occur on the 27th next month
timber wren
What's the eeveelution ticket pool
Is it a selector or gamba?
random ticket
tardy fiber
Hope to get either espeon or jolteon 
, because i already have non eggmon pairs for other eeveelutions in the pool
tardy fiber
I already have rachel and bp karen, please no umbreon 
...i got ssmisty for vaporeon, tina for flareon 
tardy fiber
It might work 
they are all different roles
But nvm give me jolteon or espeon, all of em are not faves anyway...might as well give me new pokemon 
They gonna stay 1/5 and be friends with archer 
mossy hawk
They are
crisp grotto
For the ticket? They are
tardy fiber
Rocket only have 4
No Gio
I wonder if Gio not in the ticket because he is not an admin, or its due to him having a buddy move 
stray steeple
23k gems this month 💀
I gotta save up the whole month if I want Serena
Cus who knows what ungodly gem count December will have
strange trout
Yeah don't do that
lunar thistle
Yeah don't do that
Like my thought is "I technically can get it in one pull"
"And it's only 300"
strange trout
You can technically buy 5 lottery tickets at your nearest convenience store and become an instant multi-millionaire
It'll only cost you $5
vernal glade
Made my calculations on my total and the datamine gem count.
compact pasture
Which Eevee is a support?
lunar thistle
You can technically buy 5 lottery tickets at your nearest convenience store and ...
Ik that's why it's illogical
But I do it anyway
hard wave
Expect it to be like rocket
Atleast all of them r good and u dont have a 25% chance for mid 
tawny cedar
We wont get more than 1 mfair in December right
upbeat lotus
thats up to dena actually
mossy hawk
Based on last year, more likely there is 2
upbeat lotus
we havent had a solo MF released... since SSR Cynthia
compact pasture
Really?
grim plover
volo and cogita mfs next datamine
winged fossil
Manifesting for December koraidon and miraidon
Yo I just realized I might get ryuki or whatever on the ncerena banner cause he ends before she starts
tawny cedar
If i only consider a unit a fave just for its Pokemon,is it an actual fave or a phantom fave
I want nc bede purely for garticuno
Idc about bede himself
tough oriole
||If you really like garticuno i don’t see why not||
winged fossil
Depends on if you prioritize Pokémon or trainer. I consider most Pokémon based favs “poke-favs” or “lesser favs”
vestal leaf
Idc about bede himself
Well
- you don't dislike the trainer
- he's not a bad unit
I think it's a good idea to save for him
I scouted grimmsnarl, not summer Marnie, for example
winged fossil
Cause I’d still prioritize my fav trainers over my Pokémon favs
tawny cedar
Depends on if you prioritize Pokémon or trainer. I consider most Pokémon based f...
100% prioritise the pokemon
vestal leaf
lost bobcat
What
winged fossil
100% prioritise the pokemon
In that case that’s a fav then
vestal leaf
^
tawny cedar
6 reruns is quite a bit
crisp grotto
Maybe spoiler the image since it's got ||SS Piers|| on it
ashen thunder
SC Steven is not a fav 
tawny cedar
Maybe spoiler the image since it's got ||SS Piers|| on it
You can't do that on mobile can you
ashen thunder
Don't roll just coz they enable your favs
Coz you can always roll a more optimal fav unit when they drop
tawny cedar
SC Steven is not a fav <:SerenaSip:623126213224955904>
Well he's sort of fave supporter tho
tawny cedar
I only get save and share
crisp grotto
Cos it's already sent, that's fine then I guess
tawny cedar
Ill just delete it since i have to remove scsteven
winged fossil
Well he's sort of fave supporter tho
The only time I did this was redlax. And that was a time where I still did yolos. I wouldn’t do this anymore if you don’t like the trainer or mon especially with gemcounts lately
winged fossil
The only case I’ll get him is if I happen to get him when chasing sczinnia someday personally
Since they’ll prob share banner 4way
The Nickit line grew on me a lot since her release
winged fossil
I’m basically a free man after this month. It feels great.
This is what’d be left of my list
tawny cedar
I got 5 reruns
winged fossil
And I’m pretty picky on shared banners, a unit I already own can be enough to dissuade me especially if I have 3/5+
tawny cedar
Would that be too many
ashen thunder
I am only on candy hell
So I have to roll on reruns if banners are favorable 
winged fossil
That’s fine. Especially since ball guy and Palmer are prob gonna be wildcards rerunwise
ashen thunder
Too many techs
winged fossil
If they ever get 5/5 expansions I might do both Serena’s depending on what they get
winged fossil
Oh you’re one of the people that are gonna get 
d when calem pomaday
tawny cedar
What do we have for this Poma day anyways
winged fossil
Cheren according to #1012256199128915968
winged fossil
Calem for December
ashen thunder
I never understood why people 5/5 a master fair tbh
Same reason why people have 5/5 cheren
winged fossil
A little too much candy problem
Personally I’d not consider the meta candys when you got that many fav candies lined up
Seems redundant when they’d prob be there for years with that many
tawny cedar
Meta isn't too big of an issue
Ingo is still a must cuz of adr1
Oleana could be skipped
Sshilda is there if we ever need a very good offtyper and my lance doesn't suffice
winged fossil
If you’re not doing vilda for this hs you’re prob never doing it
That’s how I see it
You already have a lot of offtype favs in there
Also imo fallbert can bump down to 2/5, his 3/5 tiles don’t seem good, atleast till you catch up on your other strikers
crisp grotto
yea furbert's fine at 2/5
tawny cedar
If you’re not doing vilda for this hs you’re prob never doing it
Well then Hilda goes to hell
ashen thunder
You can remove ingo as well
He isn't meta to begin with
winged fossil
You’re also not likely to 5/5 for meta unless you’re already close to it regarding hilbert ss
ashen thunder
Oleana also works fine at 1/5 if you are running another poison unit that can nuke
Oh hey
You have 3/5 Emma
Oleana can stay at 1/5
winged fossil
my candies left:
Tech
0/5>3/5 NCerena depending on how pulls go
1/5 > 5/5 SSN (kinda want his solos 
)
Strike
2>3 SS Ethan
1>3 NCRed
1>3 Lussamine
2>3 AnniLillie
1>3 NCMarnie
1>5 N&Zekrom + Gloria&Zacian (more likely through free selects tbh.)
Support
1>2 NCalem
cricket noises
ashen thunder
winged fossil
literally only one support candy remains and i need like 3 more tech candies ontop of my current 3, while strike needs... a lot.
8 strike candies, so 5 more.
excluding the two lodge ones
winged fossil
im at 2Wild/3Str/3T/0Sup/0Spri/0Fie
i barely form Calem's candy this patch
and thats with the gladion lodge coin and the mystery stone coin, which calc doesnt include apparently
ashen thunder
I can't wait to make Rolex list when they start giving em to old PFs
tawny cedar
Looks better
winged fossil
added a tier to my ex-based list, which ill prob rework to be a candy list instead since im basically caught up on exs
||me when realizing i technically broke my rule by grabbing calem since he was in the not-fav section:||
tawny cedar
I have no cakes to do rn
winged fossil
time to pick a random ex for punishment, since i technically did grab a "non-fav"
im literally just randoming a number out of my exable units
god, 98 possibilities, whos it gonna land on
pure arrow
Does anyone have a tier list maker for reruns?
pure arrow
wait a second I might have tried to use her for gauntlet
winged fossil
this is the remaining pool for EX punishments right now after doing that.
at least i got someone this time that i already had at 5 stars
woulda sucked to have to do one of the 4 stars
At least that one will help me when ghost hse comes since it’s a support ghost
Figured I could use random number generated punishments for it since it could turn out good. Or it could turn out horribly like it just did.
vestal leaf
Looks better
Hilbert is fine 3/5 tho
vestal leaf
how is Lodge Ace anyways?
It's a good Alola support
(Alola has a very bad average support situation)
ashen thunder
Lodge gladion is pretty decent
And alola dpses in general are more self sufficient
Most cases only need crit which gladion offers now
vestal leaf
His defensive and healing options are still mediocre imo
ashen thunder
Lemme cope
vestal leaf
Yeah I get it
ashen thunder
vestal leaf
Lodge acerola at least gets regen, evasion + confusion AND phantom force to dodge damage
Gladion instead gets syncro healing and a shit TM
lost bobcat
TL Acerola can't provide a single defensive buff for her team
Gladion is more defensive
I think is balanced in the end
grim plover
But gladion maxes both defenses and has safety tether too 
lost bobcat
+1+1+1 moment
grim plover
Oh wait nvm I thought it was +2
vestal leaf
Yeah no
lost bobcat
One is enoigh for crit
But yeah is a painful slow buffer, good for LG
grim plover
Yeah his tm is shit lol
vestal leaf
Tighten up and toughen up help in LG, which is why 1/2 of lodge supports get them lol
grim plover
One is enoigh for crit
But yeah is a painful slow buffer, good for LG
Like most lodge units
lost bobcat
Yeah after all beside LG have little use
But HS is a thing, we got free poison support coverage
tawny cedar
Hilbert is fine 3/5 tho
He is 4/5 rn
My brain will not let me live peacefully till he is 5/5
The second rebuff is nice anyways
unkempt vortex
Double rebuff brainteaser and brain power 
vestal leaf
I mean 3/5 to 5/5
If he's 4/5 ofc it's better to go 5/5 since his 4/5 is ass
But even then
A candy for a rebuff?
Ehhhh
His grid is already so fucking expensive anyway
sonic cobalt
Jesus, just barely over 23k gems for November? That’s painfully low
tardy fiber
Yep i remembered getting very low gems for pokewar sc on November
Im happy at least this November is a skip for me 
If everything goes well, i will leave November with at least 103,780 gems
So i can make 3rd pity if December has at least 6k gems
lost bobcat
We get 2 free units, chance to get all the 8 egg eeveelutions (all can be shiny)
And maybe a free variety eeveelution unit
It's a 
imo
tardy fiber
True also happy with lodge gladion and eve adding to my niche type roster in case poison and normal hs happens 
winged fossil
We get 2 free units, chance to get all the 8 egg eeveelutions (all can be shiny)...
wdym maybe? its not just a maybe we know the bingo gives it
just its random which one we get like with rockets
lost bobcat
wdym maybe? its not just a maybe we know the bingo gives it
#1012311116778586182 message
I read this
The banner will give 1 ticket, do we have confirmation we'll get one?
lost bobcat
Oh nice so it's pretty much confirmed
And no rally
3 free units this month, even bigger W
winged fossil
yeah, im happy with the free eeveelution whatever it may be. just hope its not timegated cause else some HS people might gamba flareon last day just to get ticket jumpscared later
would feel really bad for someone to select off a pity just to get it right after from this ticket
so people considering any of the eevee banner should def get the ticket first if possible
lost bobcat
Ooof
winged fossil
esp since both new ones seem to be in it too
lost bobcat
would feel really bad for someone to select off a pity just to get it right afte...
Ye that's pain, I already have the first 3, hope to get the newest
fallen path
Enjoy your
winged fossil
i have none of them. so im gonna be happy with anyone. esp since it sounds like no matter which one, thats +1 field effect for my box
leaning toward jolteon if i had to pick one, after reading kits of the new two, but i wont complain no matter which one
atleast unlike the rocket one there isnt a big gap in power between them
fallen path
I’m good with any of them
lost bobcat
The first variety was hard to skip for me, love johto even if Lucas is there idk why
This time, despite Espeon l, I don't like Selene n Elio with them
Feel like they wanna give us a Alola protags alt
Or variant
Variety
alt
I'll treasure the eggs
tardy fiber
They thought of giving the eeveelutions to Dexio and Sina but backtrack after thinking maybe they should be in next variety scout so they give to Selene Elio instead as they are sun and moon protags
lost bobcat
atleast unlike the rocket one there isnt a big gap in power between them
Ye the rocket was harder to accept
Rip ppl that got archer, good luck finding candies 
winged fossil
im really happy with proton and his bat, even though i was hoping for the snek at first i think i like the bat more gameplaywise
tardy fiber
I have archer i kinda want weezing or arbok to replace jessie and james but no luck
winged fossil
rei hunter in #poma-questions found the bingo missions for me. tl;dr seems to be 800 stamina, some eevee event stuff, and 2 riddles.
tardy fiber
Hurm i might be tempted if variety select happens in the future but i just gonna limit myself to only grab if its original character variety so proton, petrel, ariana, ball guy
In case they become lodge guests
tardy fiber
Lodge gladion probably
lost bobcat
Yep, genpool lodge after all
Quite surprising the last 4 lodge units are all f2p
Many ppl were angry at Adaman n Irida
winged fossil
i just realized from release dates of ||ncalem and ncerena||
the last week has a possibility of matching new MF types
at least for one of them
Fighting weak means possibility of Koraidon
hard wave
November is usually one of the lowest months of the year
Like 8/11 of the months have been low
winged fossil
yeah i cant think of a duo that could line up other than the bikes. but thatd require 2nd december week to be electric, probably. walking wake technically can also fit with water... idk what major dragon-type signatures we're missing... same with bug and ghost...
hard wave
Just be a skip
lost bobcat
Hope they're with the professors (if they'll ever happen)
I really hate the mcs
winged fossil
if its bikes then thatd be prob 2 pities from me. cause i really like the designs of those two... what else could they be though if we assume at least one's falling under these...
...volo origin giratina could fit... ...technically HZoroark can, if ghost isnt the MF.
doubt HZoroark would be MF
hard wave
They r cool but idt id pull for them, not struggling w fighting electric or dragon either
winged fossil
either way this clue is definitely gonna help me with ignoring ||unova|| banner rest of the way. cause if i could get a fighting type fav, im gonna be pogging pretty hard ngl.
a new lucario maybe, koraidon, okidogi... thats pretty much the two to three fighting types im looking for. kinda one of those types im a bit more picky with
tardy fiber
i just realized from release dates of ||ncalem and ncerena||
the last week has a...
Ghost or Dragon can mean Volo Giratina
vernal glade
Kind of curious on ghost in December.
sturdy flower
wonder if they will do some kind of 3k gems Eevee rally
i kinda doubt but also have hope
26k would be so much better for the month, even if it hit past next datamine
winged fossil
the chances of a gem rally ever happening again seem really slim ngl
vernal glade
True, when was the last time a rally gave out gems?
sturdy flower
winged fossil
im pretty sure the last gem rally was sometime prior to anni
sturdy flower
low gem counts make me even more stingy
it's not enough gems to pity all new MF at this rate
(not saying anyone should do that, just in perspective)
winged fossil
im just glad that i went on a saving spree when i did, id be even more screwed if i hadnt been saving for a while.
sand crown
low gem counts make me even more stingy
The more they increase desperation, more people won’t pull
sturdy flower
Penny would be useful kit wise for me, but I can't bring myself to roll for her in this economy
winged fossil
im really curious how the mix banner will work out financially for them, tbh. it really feels weird seeing a paid-only entire unit...
sturdy flower
i will just wait for a broken fairy damage dealer that needs no support that I actually like
sturdy flower
im really curious how the mix banner will work out financially for them, tbh. it...
paid only and "dailies" only right?
winged fossil
iirc its like entirely paid dailies, yeah
winged fossil
really hoping enough people boycott that banner despite being basically a V Red so dena doesnt try to lock more units to that blasted thing.
sturdy flower
would be better if they made the first pull of the day free
lost bobcat
Sounds like it, you'll reach pity in the end bcs it's cumulative but the featured chances changes
More like extra dailies
sturdy flower
so every 300 days f2p players can choose an unit
lost bobcat
Dailies are dangerous
sand crown
Dailies are dangerous
A very slippery slope
sturdy flower
i only take dailies when the risk is calculated
aka triple banners and expected value being high enough to risk it
winged fossil
i dont wanna touch the daily button ever again, personally, esp when the norm seems to be ~5k for a good bulk of the limited selects now
lost bobcat
Ye, I've seen ppl insisting into dailies spending 500 each day
I limit myself to 5 dailies in one month bcs scared of that
sturdy flower
i do dailies on maybe 2 banners per year
winged fossil
already takes more than one bundle to form a 5k select, so it just doesnt feel worth even considering even if im going to pity
sturdy flower
i dont mind spending some pocket change being equivalent of alcohol or sweets from time to time
but even then I dont buy the bundle religiously
just when i feel like it, in the summer i didnt get any for like 5 months
and when i do it's the 3k one
google play also has discount campaigns but sadly they are obfuscated
winged fossil
im getting it for a few months to try to have the option of selects be open to me, cause theres some units i want that id prob never have the timing to get otherwise
sturdy flower
for me it's -1$ off the 3$ bundle
lost bobcat
That's why using a limit is nice
I also do only on pokefairs I like but won't pull for (bcs I don't usually pull for pokefairs)
winged fossil
i still remember one of my first ever selects, grabbed emmet off one a long time ago.
lunar thistle
It's kinda unfortunate that both my favs are Pokefairs
lost bobcat
Which one
lunar thistle
Which means pulling to completion isn't really worth it
sturdy flower
i mean, better than masterfairs
winged fossil
lost bobcat
Oh
lost bobcat
They reran in a duo banner right?
winged fossil
yeah
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lunar thistle
So I probably have a bit of time to wait
tough oriole
They reran in a duo banner right?
Apparently yes
winged fossil
which ironically, made me skip it despite wanting latios someday
lost bobcat
That was great, you'll probably get that again. Just be patient
winged fossil
cause i already had latias from debut
hoping for a good pool to pick from this newyears
lunar thistle
I mean if it's a Pokefair then there's more chance that I won't need to pull to completion
So it's just less worth it if I do have to
winged fossil
always plan as if youll be shafted to pity for the units you chase. its a lot easier to accept a pity that way.
lunar thistle
It'd be kinda depressing if I do
sturdy flower
also weird how they held LGPE for such a long time
winged fossil
no matter the unit i expect 36.6k to get it, and just consider any i saved from dodging that as extra income.
sturdy flower
then we get PLA, SV and LGPE in what, 4 months?
sand crown
no matter the unit i expect 36.6k to get it, and just consider any i saved from ...
My default mindset for MFs. Doesn’t even sting anymore
lost bobcat
Ye you never know when luck will leave you
Third anni broke me
Pity ssMay ssSteven
Pity Ash sstRed ssaCynthia
I had so much stacked and went broke
sand crown
That was Hisui duo for me. Devastating
lost bobcat
Expected pities but not 5
winged fossil
seriously though last like 4-5 banners i expected it, and got rewarded early. but i still consider that 36.6k "spent" for each of them.
||especially considering those banners were master fairs excluding unova.||
ok, its 4 banners since last shaft, after doublechecking
last shaft was summer n
sturdy flower
<- 0 or 1 banners since shaft
winged fossil
im not gonna be surprised in the slightest if serena shafts me. this streaks gone on too long.
lunar thistle
I mean technically mathematically it's much more likely not to get to pity
Than it is to get to pity
sturdy flower
i keep my gem count high enough to always get anything i want on the first run
so i don't really have to worry about rerun timings
lunar thistle
winged fossil
at the same time, though, ive historically been lucky on Serena banner so far. as she was 3/5 in 5 multis when i got her on debut.
and i think it was like, couple multis at most + a handful of dailies in 2nd anni for pserena
lunar thistle
sturdy flower
yeah but i get kicked off lodge at 96%
lunar thistle
(MF above, PF below)
winged fossil
yeah, but always expecting to be in the like 10-20% or so depending on banner type is better than getting shafted and leaving emptyhanded
lost bobcat
math
I'm mastering voodoodoodoo lucky rituals
lunar thistle
Like at pity how many pulls is it
winged fossil
hell, im pretty sure in the rocket variety banner you were more likely to pity than not to
cause wasnt it like 0.4%/unit
on a debut banner
sturdy flower
12*11+2
sturdy flower
rate up in my other game tends to be 0.3%
you pretty much dont get the pair ever unless you are super lucky
always pity
lunar thistle
At 580 pulls do you cross 90%(!)
winged fossil
in one of my other gachas there literally isnt even rateup anymore 
we just have to hit 5 legendaries/100 epics worth of units to even select who we want iirc.
lunar thistle
I have been convinced not to play "other gachas"
lost bobcat
Yah I do admit other games sucks
Poma is kinda extra easy and yet reddit is full of hate
winged fossil
dislyte is painful to unit chase in these days, especially now that they dilluted the pool with things that aren't units
and thus dont even give the resource to pity someone
sturdy flower
Poma is going in the wrong direction right now
lunar thistle
Yah I do admit other games sucks
Poma is kinda extra easy and yet reddit is full...
You don't really need the first part of that sentence
winged fossil
prob gonna be quitting that game since getting anyone new i want is just dreadful
lunar thistle
"Reddit is full of hate" period
lunar thistle
Poma is going in the wrong direction right now
Agreed, but a direction doesn't necessarily mean an outcome
rare swan
I think it's because PMEX is the only gacha a lot of these people play and they have no idea how bad true gachas are
lost bobcat
Poma is going in the wrong direction right now
They have lost a lot of revenue compared to other years
EoS happens bcs they're not making profits after all
But they're trying to adapt
sturdy flower
they went to sleep with battle content for a long time
sadly we got the new gear being lucky skills but worse
winged fossil
iirc i remember seeing something that suggests the revenue isnt that bad, but down compared to 3anni a bit. but tbf, its hard to compare to 3anni cause it was ash of course its gonna sell like hot chocolate or something
lost bobcat
Old gem deals were unaffordable, I was buying the 300 x 1$ monthly deal bcs had the best ratio
They made more affordable deals more we shift on those
winged fossil
there were plenty of people who werent touching the game till ash got in, came, spent, and prob left.
lost bobcat
Yea
tough oriole
The most revenue by far was 2nd anni, with N, Steven, and Lillie
3rd anni made around as much as 1st anni
lost bobcat
I think it's because PMEX is the only gacha a lot of these people play and they ...
Ye I recently left Avatar Generations
Rates are terrible and the worst part is that they put items and supports that are not playable heroes and no selectable unit at pity.
So you may end pitying equipment for an hero you don't have
rare swan
Yeah my brother plays FGO and whew lmao
lunar thistle
The only other game with a gacha that I play is Pokemon Unite
rare swan
I'm not trying to say the changes DeNA is making aren't a bit jarring, but overall this is still nothing
rare swan
The important thing to remember is to save your gems and only use them when you really really want to
lunar thistle
Also cut off your itchy finger as per the Bible
rare swan
....I wouldn't go quite that far
lunar thistle
(Joking)
lost bobcat
Also gatchas are declining really fast, popular gatchas lost way more than poma did
lunar thistle
How's Yuanshen doing
rare swan
the pandemic really helped them since everyone was stuck inside with nothing to do
sturdy flower
whaling in gacha isnt sustainable for most people
rare swan
but now the pandemic is basically over, cost of living is going insane in most countries, and on top of that apple changed their pricing structure
so it's just a rough time in the industry in general
lunar thistle
Wait it was like
Honkhonk Star Rail
sand crown
They have lost a lot of revenue compared to other years
EoS happens bcs they're ...
Don’t think they’re winning any loyalty points. Delicate balance
uneven pewter
iirc i remember seeing something that suggests the revenue isnt that bad, but do...
So I’ll make this part simple as to why their revenue is down besides ash
First they have been pushing stuff that even makes the spenders unhappy
rare swan
iirc i remember seeing something that suggests the revenue isnt that bad, but do...
ironically Ash sold the least out of all three
uneven pewter
Then the villain story has been a huge let down because they are i guess afraid to let the villains be villains?
Someone else had mentioned it
But the battle content has been a big “a bit late don’t you think?”
Content and things to do have been huge glaring issues and the lodge was a huge waste of development resources
I will say that 100% bold faced
The lodge is pointless and there is an executive trying to save face because they either thought it was a good idea they came up with or someone else did and they don’t want to own how expensive it actually is to maintain
We have begged for guild and co-op content which at this point that ship has sailed
Which the only thing we can take away is Dena is always taking the wrong lessons from the feedback we give
Champion stadium was a great win, rather than further develop champion stadium they just slap more points to chase
Villa is clearly too much effort to redesign a hard mode so they gave us a skip button
tough oriole
And then there’s this new ultimate battle which they hyped up for months but it’s only for the top 0.1% of players
uneven pewter
I won’t lie…their inability to innovate astounds me
Literally copy the modes from Pokémon stadium 1and 2
Battle revolution
THERE IS A PLETHORA OF IDEAS
max raids even
Holy heck it’s not rocket science
lunar thistle
Holy heck it’s not rocket science
New response just dropped
uneven pewter
New response just dropped
Oh?
rare swan
And then there’s this new ultimate battle which they hyped up for months but it’...
in all seriousness though, how can you have an accessible "ultimate" battle?
it's meant to be the hardest battle the game has ever offered, casual/newer/less skilled players should not be able to complete it
rare swan
Then the villain story has been a huge let down because they are i guess afraid ...
this is very subjective, I personally adored it
uneven pewter
It’s not difficulty that’s the issue, they invented their own problem letting the level cap go beyond 100
tough oriole
in all seriousness though, how can you have an accessible "ultimate" battle?
Obviously people designing the ultimate battle may be different from the people doing other stuff, but the game didn’t really need an ultimate battle, and the people asking for harder battles won’t exactly be satiated by it
rare swan
Oh no it definitely did
veterans have been complaining about the lack of hard content for a while
uneven pewter
this is very subjective, I personally adored it
They could have done something far more inventive and interesting with the story. Paulo was my biggest gripe i wish never existed in the story
uneven pewter
veterans have been complaining about the lack of hard content for a while
I just want a variety
lunar thistle
I mean Paulo's a nuanced and well-developed character
That may appear in a fanfiction written by a thirteen year old
uneven pewter
I mean Paulo's a nuanced and well-developed character
LEAR is a nuanced and well-developed character who actually has believable growth. Paulo is as insufferable as Barry is except edgier than a teenager listening to my chemical romance.
lunar thistle
Therefore my second sentence
winged fossil
a good chunk of paulos stuff almost made me want to vomit, ngl
lunar thistle
(I still look at my own 13-year-old fanfics and want to cringe fwiw)
winged fossil
especially during the timeframe he was pushing rockruff aside for little to no goddamn reason
winged fossil
i think the fact that paulo was tied to that lycanroc was part of what made me skip the banner even tho i had gems...
uneven pewter
If the Arc focused on Giovanni making the villains actually go back to being villains that would have been more interesting than what we got in terms of paulo. To end my rant about Dena’s decisions though…they are the worst about inventing their own problems
rare swan
I personally think that would have been a bit boring
what makes a lot of the villains (Cyrus, Lysandre, the Hoenn boys) interesting in PMEX is the fact they're going in a different direction from how we've constantly seen them in canon
showing a different side of them
idk I like how only Gio (and perhaps Ghetsis) was the only actively aggressive villain
bleak falcon
I would argue that undoing the villains’ character development wouldn’t be Giovanni’s style anyways
The closest thing we had to that was Hoenn VA, and that was more sowing discord between Team Aqua and Team Magma so that Team Rocket could take advantage of the resulting chaos
And not even the main team leaders at that, he took advantage of Courtney and Matt and their flaws/insecurities
winged fossil
i sorta zoned out of most of the VA after the first couple chapters or so, they sorta lost me midway through the VA arc
even got to the point where barring the ending, i was hitting the skip button on some of the VA story
grand bramble
i just....doesn't care at all ....im speedrunning the story and take the tickets
the rest is on yt to watch
tawny cedar
Since nc calem first run was pretty close to anni 3.5,is there a chance we would get nc bede in the next few months?
rare swan
there is always a chance but we can't confirm anything
tardy fiber
I think it's because PMEX is the only gacha a lot of these people play and they ...
Marvel contest of champions is a gacha game with famous Marvel brand yet there's still no pity system in it well we can collect shards over time to get a 6* or 7* crystal but still cannot select the pair you wanted...this make PoMa looks like a saint to me
tardy fiber
what makes a lot of the villains (Cyrus, Lysandre, the Hoenn boys) interesting i...
Cannot wait to see how DeNa will do Volo
hard wave
Since nc calem first run was pretty close to anni 3.5,is there a chance we would...
My guess is they’ll rerun 3rd anni (prob w/o ash) for NY, not sure about february, then rerun 3.5 anni for run up
crisp oracle
it's meant to be the hardest battle the game has ever offered, casual/newer/less...
300 gems for an ebe on steroids is incredibly disappointing
rare swan
the point of the battle is not the gems, it's the challenge
lunar thistle
Marvel contest of champions is a gacha game with famous Marvel brand yet there's...
Isn't pity mandatory for Japan and China games
By law
sturdy plank
Isn't pity mandatory for Japan and China games
i thought marvel was american
lunar thistle
I mean you have to include a pity system if your game is in Japan or China
Which Genshin and Masters are
tardy fiber
Isn't pity mandatory for Japan and China games
Not sure but that game got off scot free, you can form the high rarity crystal by collecting shards over time but you still cannot select a particular unit like Venom from the pool
crisp oracle
Is the mysterious stone exchange live yet
tardy fiber
And they are 257 characters so minus the exclusive characters so around 250
tardy fiber
Is the mysterious stone exchange live yet
1st November
unkempt vortex
Isn't pity mandatory for Japan and China games
Pity is by no means mandatory
rare swan
from my understanding of the laws, it's the rates of the banners that must be displayed, by law
whether or not a banner has pity isn't regulated
rates are displayed as a warning for what you're getting yourself into, that's the main thing
unkempt vortex
This
Iirc like you said they can’t hide rates but are not required to have a pity system
There are plenty of games that don’t have a pity system
rare swan
yup, i've played a few myself
that's why PMEX will show you the exact rate of every possible unit you can pull on a banner
the fact that every banner has pity available is just a good thing for us as players, they could easily remove it
or only have it on specific banners (for example, the Fire Emblem gacha has pity on regular banners but no pity on seasonals)
so the fact that all PMEX banners have pity is simply very lucky for us 
unkempt vortex
I’ll add to this that it’s actually achievable in this game
Another game I play bleach brave souls just added a pity system after like 8 years and it costs about 5.7k orbs
Which is 25 steps
For reference most banners are step ups and follow a 150>200>250 for three steps and repeat
rare swan
yup, that's also a good point
you can have a pity system but it could be massively unachievable for most
rare swan
Another game I play bleach brave souls just added a pity system after like 8 yea...
out of curiousity, why did they add a pity system now after 8 years?
lean mango
Didn't every gacha game started adding a pity system from that one gacha controversy or something
unkempt vortex
out of curiousity, why did they add a pity system now after 8 years?
Tbh idk however I will point out that the system now guarantees a 5* every 5 steps which is about 1100(very achievable with how getting orbs works)
And also units get added to gen pool way more often and limited units take less time to rerun
lunar thistle
As far as I see Unite will never be as bad as other games
unkempt vortex
The swimsuit banner in July is getting a rerun in a couple of days and they’ll also just randomly add seasonals as filler in other banners
lunar thistle
Despite all the doomsaying
tardy fiber
Another game I play bleach brave souls just added a pity system after like 8 yea...
How many orbs that bleach brave souls give monthly?
unkempt vortex
It depends on how much you do and how many characters you can level up because you get orbs for that too
But I’d say roughly 1k a month not including characters
tardy fiber
so around 5 months to have enough to pity a banner
unkempt vortex
I’ll also add that banners work differently
If it’s ok I’d like to show how they’re structured
tardy fiber
I think its ok, well it kinda teach us more to appreciate resources
unkempt vortex
This is an upcoming banner that goes from the 31-11/12
After this each character will get their own individual which lasts for a couple days
In poma terms imagine each banner was like the current unova banner and then hilda hilbert and n got their own banner so you have the chance of going after multiple or just 1
tardy fiber
So the pity amount for both banner types is still the same?
Poma is kinda reverse right, single banner when they are first released with multiple featured on their rerun but might take months/years to appear
unkempt vortex
Only the original banner has enough steps to get the pity ticket
Which is 26 steps you get the ticket at 25
Individuals only go to step 11
tardy fiber
Individuals only go to step 11
No ticket at individual?
tardy fiber
Thats rough, it cost same cost per pull?
unkempt vortex
No
tardy fiber
Like original
unkempt vortex
This is the same cost that’s on the original too
Just more steps and different rates
tardy fiber
So original banner is better for savers? Because we can pity the unit...if 5* guaranteed, its not guaranteed to get the pair...might get some 5* general pool
unkempt vortex
unkempt vortex
So original banner is better for savers? Because we can pity the unit...if 5* gu...
yes and no
you can guarantee the unit but youre pull rate for a specific unit is lower
its 4.5% for a banner unit but you have 9 units fighting for that 4.5%
versus 4 fighting for the 4% featured unit on an individual
tardy fiber
Yep but experience in poma, like better to guarantee get the unit as its percentage probability so there's always a chance on not getting the unit you want till pity
Although the rate is higher
Still got chance to not get unless there's pity
broken mulch
Hmm assuming I skip everything only 77k gems total for me this month… hardly over double pity
tardy fiber
I will be shy of three pities, as long as December has at least 6k gems, i will get 3 pities
tardy fiber
Enough for November's stuffs
round mason
what are those for
exotic sparrow
Monthly exchange
round mason
oh thats nice
winged fossil
Enough for November's stuffs <:WeezingLFG:920920558164664390>
just realized the BP stages give these too just got +3 off the bp stage
theyre prob just gonna be tossed almost everywhere now
wont be surprised if some events have them either in stages or shops
tardy fiber
just realized the BP stages give these too just got +3 off the bp stage
It does help abit if im farming 
, 30 days of BP stages with for example 3 stones each time is already 90 out of 100 of the monthly quota i needed to exchange all of the good stuffs
The remaining 10 probably can get from lodge
winged fossil
yeah, its pretty nice that we dont have to go out of our way for most of the shop
even for people not touching lodge (for whatever reason) are getting +1 coin / mo from looks of it from this alone
as long as they do bp stages
tardy fiber
But as now i got 600+ and finishing theme skills for pairs, i just gonna farm the stones at the theme orbs area. As i already done with November quota, the BP stages stones from November month can be used for December's quota.
winged fossil
i like how little effort theyre asking of us for getting these
tardy fiber
Im impressed that they also include yellow coin in exchange store, they used to make it very premium and now thanks to this, we will get nice amount of yellow coins even in month without gauntlet
winged fossil
dont hse also give yellow coin (think as last reward)?
hse had already helped for gauntless-less months, this just increases it further
tardy fiber
Like this month have 3 yellow coins in the pins, and now with this shop we will get the 4th one...also lodge is uncertainty but as gladion is general pool so we can get the 5th one
In Just 4 months and then we can form yellow candy
winged fossil
its nice to increase the coin income either way since we're increasing the number of units on average per month too
its atleast something even if we're still ramming into the wall of gem shortage
tardy fiber
Well the increase number of units are a problem for people that pull everything that came out, and those peoples probably have extra funds to just nab the 20 days yellow coin bundle so they get 3 yellow candies in 2 months
winged fossil
i keep forgetting which professor is which btw in S&V, btw. prob should research them and the paldea MCs at least a tiny bit... since theyre the main candidates for koraidon+miraidon when they come
tardy fiber
I think they probably will push a lot of SV stuff next year as the DLC 2 probably gonna release around that time, so my prediction that December probably more hisui stuff and 1 paldea like Arven mabostiff or something
winged fossil
really wish i had more of a clue to work off of for the MFs other than maybe koraidon maybe volo+origin gira
that final week is really throwing me the hell off cause theres no second pair i can think of that matches the week
and the dates of last year's makes me suspect they might both match the week
tardy fiber
Also its already a while since Adaman and Irida were released so i wont be surprised to see Ss Adaman Origin Dialga and Ss Irida Origin Palkia to release alongside Volo Origin Giratina
winged fossil
i guess it could happen, but id be surprised for their second pairs to be also MFs
and i really dont see a single MF happening
tardy fiber
It probably just pokefairs, like Sinnoh VA only ssrcynthia is a MF while lucas, ssdawn, sscyrus are pokefairs
So Volo MF while the others are PF
They already got MF passive on their base pair
winged fossil
i feel like single MF is , been too long
tardy fiber
Well because half anniv in February for sure will release 3 MF
winged fossil
Well because half anniv in February for sure will release 3 MF
that implies they dont wanna up the ante to FOUR
tardy fiber
Probably 3 or less, they are digging NC concept now and maximum is 3 for 3 MF region passives
winged fossil
if we do somehow see a single, then i wont be surprised if anni becomes set of 4 split between two duos.
tardy fiber
Nc Unova, they only have flag bearer now, i can see it happening like for Galar with only Leon flag bearer for a long time and 3 galar MF pop up and bede having duplicate flag bearer
winged fossil
two duos grouped to be four for an anni i can definitely see happening in the future if they wanna keep from overlapping passives. assuming they dont just make a new one and be like
i 100% could see dena just making a new passive when we inevitably start seeing sets of 4 one day
could be one thats pure offense or pure defense, with higher %s but none of the other side, as a theoretical example.
tardy fiber
Sinnoh probably gonna be flooded with MF passive
We got
2 flag bearers : ssrcynthia and ssacynthia
1 pride : adaman
1 spirit : irida
And Volo might be a MF, plus we still didn't have Sinnoh neo champions. So total will be like 7/8 Master fairs
They should split sinnoh and hisui but alas they didn't
winged fossil
yeah, they kinda messed up in a way on that
cause now every sinnoh unit has to compete with those two
least for potential pride or spirit slots
tardy fiber
Characters from Hisui will cut sinnoh characters alt quota as if not the region will be too imbalance with plenty sinnoh
So will be hard for more cyrus alt or something
winged fossil
speaking of future kits, the day we see a OHKO move like fissure or sheer cold (likely as a bmove or something to restrict it) is going to be one fucking hell of a time for the game, assuming we reach that prior to EOS
i dont count metronome cause you legit cant convince me that shits real with how many metronomes ive done
tardy fiber
They will counter it like Bertha, introduce Bertha with rock damage field then most enemies having rock df damage reduction 9 like even Anabel Entei have 1 hit KO protection
winged fossil
yeah, itll still be interesting when looking at older content. does CS mids even have nullification for it? like for whatever the newest region was
tardy fiber
i dont count metronome cause you legit cant convince me that shits real with how...
There's a youtube video of someone able to do fissure
winged fossil
i know, just said that as a general point of its so low odds that it might as well not fucking exist
tardy fiber
True thats why i think they never do 1 hit KO buddy move
They rather do high damage like Ash
winged fossil
i mean its kinda inevitable powercreep, theyre prob just saving it for a last ditch effort. if they dont drop this mix exclusive shit that theyre pulling with red, itll prob be locked in mix purgatory anyway
ashen thunder
There's ohko nullification in modern contents anyways
No reason to fish for fissure unless you want to meme
winged fossil
yeah, mostly for gauntlet and cs (if they arent immune)
either way im sure whales would get it for "meta" even if most stuff was immune to it just for streaks and shit
cause if they did release one of those moves into the wild, that unit would most likely get some of the easiest solos (or duos at worst depending on bulk and such)
tardy fiber
Well if it exists people would just spend to get that 1 hit KO pair so that they can cheese future contents that DeNa design to be hard so that people will pull the current banners that time, but it can be beaten easily with that 1 hit KO pair that you bought few months back thus making DeNa lose money, so they probably wont do 1 hit KO move pair. better for them to release high damage single use buddy move pair like ash but can still reduce the impact like giving the enemy fluid fortification that reduces Ash damage a lot if the team didn't debuff the enemy
winged fossil
i think the most likely timing for such a unit would be shortly before eos
anyways, in terms of units that im for, thought of an unpopular mon that id really wanna see a pair for...
Manectric. preferrably a Mega pair.
tardy fiber
Well it will be a while before EoS, by the time DeNa release half of SV stuffs, we will already get next region or next legends game stuffs
winged fossil
feels like a lot of people forget that thing even has a mega
i always found it and its pre evo cute
also in terms of tm / bmove names in the future: please, dena, please, give something "Zoomies" in its name for the lulz
tardy fiber
Thats why they drag a long time to release SV stuff in poma
SV released on 18th November 2022 and we get Nemona in poma on 8th August 2023...today is 29th October 2023, and Nemona still didn't have Paldea region tag, oh and upcoming Penny too is missing it
winged fossil
Thats why they drag a long time to release SV stuff in poma
SV released on 18th ...
wait they dont even have paldea theme skill yet
just like how pasio doesnt have a theme skill
tardy fiber
So we are just starting with SV stuff, and when we already deep with it and DeNa will have materials for next region or next gen game after SV so more materials thus making EOS further
winged fossil
yeah, assuming they dont somehow lose too much money somewhere along the line i imagine this game's gonna probably last multiple more gens. would be quite surprised if we dont reach like, 8-10 years
tardy fiber
Theres not even easy accessible paldea pair therefore even paldea daily battle is non existent
winged fossil
since its the IP of Pokemon of all things, one of the most recognizable PERIOD
tardy fiber
Thats why DeNa didn't put Paldea region tag
Also need some Paldea spotlights in order to create Paldea region ticket and we still have none
winged fossil
like we're at a point where some nintendo things like pikachu are more recognizable than mickey mouse
quite a world to be living in
tardy fiber
And it will take after the month of release of Paldea spotlight release for it to be in general pool, so thats why i predict most SV content stuff will be on next year
winged fossil
Thats why they drag a long time to release SV stuff in poma
SV released on 18th ...
i remember hearing it was a similar timegap for galar to come to pasio, approx a year
tardy fiber
Yep, they are dragging so that they get DLC and stuff first before putting more effort on that region in poma
Also legends arceus released on 28 January 2022, and we got adaman on 31st May 2023
A year plus
winged fossil
gloralts already a discount terastalize pair, if you think about it. 
tardy fiber
I kinda hopeful for terrastalize pair, it will be like you purchase 1 pair but you got 2, as they can cover another type after terrastalize...still cannot beat sssteven, you grab 1 pair and get 4 pair lol
winged fossil
i cant wait for a region gimmick thatll just snap the game in half in terms of utility itd translate to on pasio.
like its inevitable that one of the future gens is gonna have something thatll give us a big jump in qol on this game for those pairs
tardy fiber
For now we got:
Mega - "better sync with this pair, i will change form, get better stats, get more stuffs"
Max move - "1 chance of sync move like damage on demand which you can press anytime"
Buddy move - "press this for a bunch of damage or utility stuffs after fulfilling this specific conditions "
Cannot wait for terrastalize 
winged fossil
i wonder how theyll balance terra, considering iirc in the games it makes that new type even stronger, which prob means in this itd be a mega-like boost when triggered too
winged fossil
yeah, still not far off in terms of damage difference for that type for a good number of mons iirc
more on the bp end unlike mega using stats to do it
since its just stab on steroids
tardy fiber
Yep
winged fossil
still, it prob means terra mode of the pairs that get it will have their terra types stronger than the base pair's.
tardy fiber
Although terrastalize have 1 of their move slot to become terra blast will be quite boring
winged fossil
i dont think it forces it in the games does it
for all we know here it could just be a changed moveset like when we mega evolve
lunar thistle
When Ogerpon:
winged fossil
it depends on the pair more than likely. i wont be surprised if the first pair or two gets it, but i will be surprised if everyone does.
tardy fiber
it depends on the pair more than likely. i wont be surprised if the first pair o...
They probably do like the current galar pairs, not all galar pairs have max move
So some that have terastalize will have tera blast
winged fossil
widespread wise it might become the terra user's generic sync move.
cause thatd be one pretty-generic animation they can reuse across a ton of future pokes, so wont be surprised if dena considers it
much like they do with beam and strike or whatever theyre called
tardy fiber
cause thatd be one pretty-generic animation they can reuse across a ton of futur...
Well we do have different types of hyper beam, i can see tera blast being similar to it...normal type at base, change type after terastalize
Hyper beam pairs have type shift, at least terastalize pairs wont have it
winged fossil
speaking of that, is there a physical version of terrablast or... cause thats another thing that worries me about it here
cause if its widespread and just terrablast then 
tardy fiber
Yep if your attack stat more than spatk it will be physical
lunar thistle
Yep
winged fossil
ok, good
that will also make things goofy for denas trend of pairs having identical stats in both offenses, lol, if they try to be lazy with offense stats on those pairs
tardy fiber
Use skill gears to plus atk stats more than spatk to change to physical
winged fossil
imagine if they actually set up one of them to be customizable on purpose tho through gear stats, thatd actually be pretty cool
anyways ima go to sleep its way later than i should be up, gn 
hard wave
Werent april june and july low too
tardy fiber
It will feels low if people pulled a lot of pairs especially now that there's variety pairs almost every month, usually its like average 4 or less limited pairs every month. Luckily, i still not tempted to get variety pairs
Will be 108k end of November
lost bobcat
Enough for November's stuffs <:WeezingLFG:920920558164664390>
Nice, are you farming those in the theme orbs area?
tardy fiber
Nice, are you farming those in the theme orbs area?
Yep, because i dont want to mess with skill gears other than rainbow feathers, for upgrade drinks, its still uncertain which role my next fave will be so i think theme orbs is the best one, plus eggmons also need theme orbs
I might need theme orbs for:
Shiny machop, diglett, sandshrew
Eve, lodge gladion, 1 free 5* eeveelutions
8 shiny eeveelutions
hard wave
Enough for November's stuffs <:WeezingLFG:920920558164664390>
Same
lunar thistle
Not really
Oct21 is worrywhirl
hard wave
lost bobcat
I might need theme orbs for:
Shiny machop, diglett, sandshrew
Eve, lodge gladion...
You have enough for the new eggs?
The current VA event part2 is exceptionally generous for bronze farming
tardy fiber
You have enough <:iBronzePowerUp:799683334606290954> for the new eggs?
The curr...
Yep i have 600, also if its not enough, i can farm it on kalos VA part 2 next month
I feel happy to finally done with theme orbs, now only left 8 non eggmon pairs to 5* and then i can move on to shiny eggmons
tardy fiber
What does this tell us?
Fluctuations
oak crest
1 thing i noticed, the daily region battles now give 3 stones as well (if u do the hardest difficulty which what the majority should be doing)
so if you are diligent with your dailies u should have 90 stones/month at least
tardy fiber
Yep its good for months that i need to farm , i still need 200 next month
compact pasture
Monthly exchange
It resets monthly?
crisp grotto
Have you already got him?
Then you should stop. 13k gems is super steep just to get another copy
He's completely fine at base anyway
If he's an absolute favourite, you use him a lot & enjoy his kit + the full 3/5 grid entices you, then it's a good choice
lost bobcat
Otherwise base is good enough, I did 2/5 for extra utility and tankyness
Never felt the need for 3/5
crisp grotto
broken mulch
I’d be surprised if you couldn’t skip a month where there’s nothing you want haha
lunar thistle
I’d be surprised if you couldn’t skip a month where there’s nothing you want hah...
Itchy finger
I very clearly told myself I didn't want any of the Kantrio
Now I have both Articuno and Zapdos
crisp oracle
Well you got lucky this time
But now that daily scout isn't nessecary stay off the shop
And get off the game when you finish your dailies (essentially touching grass keeps you saving)
compact pasture
How many gems is 4 pities?
crisp grotto
(Assuming 12 Multis, 2 Singles) 36.6k * 4 = 146400
crude glacier
damn this channel feels like when you go to rehab
nothing wrong with that but yeah
I almost spent my gems the other week
on the trio before the unova
fallen path
well, gacha games involve gambling...
lost bobcat
About the eeveee egg event, is pretty much confirmed we're getting only gold eggs right?
I checked this pastebin #poma-lounge message
If that so might be hard getting them all 
hard wave
Do we just hv to evolve them to figure it out or
lost bobcat
They have a set type
hard wave
hard wave
Is there no sylveon?
lost bobcat
8 type of eevees one for each of their evolution, all tech
pure arrow
No need to ||pull for NC Calem|| now when you have free rain & dark zone setters
tough oriole
Yup
sand crown
Alright now I’m on the trade eggmon bandwagon even more
tardy fiber
Although its a skip month for me, but i will spend egg incubator passes for eeveelutions eggmons 8 free zone/weather/terrain pairs also there's 8 shiny outcomes, i think it is a gem well spent considering i dont pull for anything else on November
junior fiber
lunar thistle
I'm still trying not to pull
tardy fiber
You will get used to it after a while, like I pulled 0 banners on October and now i will do the same on November
rare swan
Just close the game, yeah
tardy fiber
Wow there's a survey
tardy fiber
Pestering DeNa for Oak and BP Master pairs EX in this proper channel 
uncut comet
Wow there's a survey <:BarryPogChamp:718173426199560315>
Free of charge, of course 🙂
winged fossil
i decided to put Wes in my fav trainer list to remind dena he exists. cause he looks cool
oh just realized, we're green this month.
~~ i also put N's full name in my list ~~
~~ natural harmonia gropius ~~
tardy fiber
I wrote my most wanted interaction is between Volo and Cynthia
oak crest
winged fossil
i did N and Lillie, dunno if they actually interacted already theyre just two i wanna see interact more 
cunning swan
I decided to put Nate in my list to remind Dena he has fans
tardy fiber
i did N and Lillie, dunno if they actually interacted already theyre just two i ...
Didnt they interact in anni event? As they both in same batch of anniN , annilillie, annisteven
latent salmon
ashen thunder
Another 40 atk and he gets another aoe sync
pure arrow
I thought dual strike EX would work like “sync now deals double damage to the pairs not targeted when selecting the sync only”
so you can still do double damage syncs to the center in CSMM as long as there’s 1 other enemy but no benefit is gained for LAs (that aren’t named Latios, Latias or Raikou)
hard wave
I thought dual strike EX would work like “sync now deals double damage to the pa...
It’d be like doom desire
cunning swan
the sync would be so AOE that it would damage your teammates as well
unkempt vortex
Make a pair with explosion that one shots enemies and allies
hard wave
the sync would be so AOE that it would damage your teammates as well
It would damage the one syncing as well
Rip roark he’s not #1 dps towards themself anymore
lunar thistle
Rip roark he’s not #1 dps towards themself anymore
Isn't that Lance
Or like Sharpedo Grimsley
hard wave
Thats with tm and they arent rlly necessary to use tbh
Roark’s is due to his dps but idk if he’s still #1 after grid
vestal leaf
#1 recoil idiot unit is 100% egg arcanine with standfast 3
And blitz
They didn't even try giving it standfast 5 or 7
winged fossil
Didnt they interact in anni event? As they both in same batch of anniN , annilil...
Doesn’t mean I can’t ask for more interaction but yeah true
tardy fiber
New event this reset, time to collect more rainbow feathers gear 
vernal glade
Got my stamina ready.
sturdy flower
i had to put in that i never used any of the new roles and roll cakes
tardy fiber
I still havent use sprint
I even wrote in the survey that i havent yet found any situation where i should favor sprint EX sync than other EX sync
neon saddle
Great wordplay
junior trout
I even wrote in the survey that i havent yet found any situation where i should ...
i wrote that i think the effect field sets should be permanent unless overrriden
especially in a case like v!gio where he can only set ground zone… once lol
tardy fiber
About cakes, i said cake is good but why give tech cake to support? Not like their role is sync nuking opponents.
neon saddle
PoMa meta is not ready for sprint cake supports
you only get one support cake sprint
tardy fiber
Oh right i can form a cake on november but i think i should just wait for datamine plus we will form bunch of whole cake on early december anyway
If nothing good on december, i will give my striker cake to ncblue...at least that helps as he can give elec rebuff to all enemies on sync
fallen path
the fact that the game chose the ex role for us dampens my interest in them
crisp oracle
In that case i'd just choose field for all of them
tough oriole
I’m scared that Lillietea will get a tech EX role instead of Field
||Ah, who am I kidding, she’s never gonna get an EX Role ||
tardy fiber
Cannot wait for DeNa to give tech EX role to my ssdawn
crisp oracle
I really want SS Diantha to get Striker or Support EX role
what is it prob gonna be? fucking sprint
hard wave
I want support ss wally and strike ss hilbert
tardy fiber
I kinda want support to my faves that changes form, i use my zerena after giving her cake and it feels really good
Support annisteven
hard wave
Ive done 2 cakes so far; rei and zerena
tardy fiber
Same i also used 2 cakes: palmer and zerena
hard wave
Rei I was replacing bea so I can keep the aoe sync and he’s prob one of my fav pairs and zerena for her form change and also a fav, im considering nc red next but idk
tardy fiber
I gonna prioritise those that changes form and those that boost passive effect...thats why im considering ncblue because if not, he can only put 2 electric rebuffs on the middle only and 1 for sides.
crisp oracle
SS Hilbert could use sprint
his gauge is awful and he could use a boost to that sync
fallen path
Support annisteven <:Hopium:875906112963117056>
whatever that boosts the attack numbers
bleak falcon
Tbh Support EX Role on A. Steven wouldn’t be that bad
Usually you expect the Support EX Sync to not hit hard anyways
pure arrow
sprint for payquaza isn't as bad as tech at least
ashen thunder
Payquaza sync in itself doesn't matter much, I'd rather sync with anni Skyla regardless of what role he gets
So best case is getting more atk than anything else
tardy fiber
I will be fine if he gets tech or support, support can help with his damage moves, while tech is nice for his sync nuke
worldly knot
Guys how do you save up gems? Lately seems dena throwing good units, this month and also last month both are stromg units and also next month going to be another mf
tardy fiber
I just pull if they are faves, like October and November have 0 legendary, mythical, UB, paradox...so my savings grow a lot
worldly knot
This month is just i like toxicrity and it is poison, too tempting not to pull rip
tardy fiber
I skipped the MF if they are not fave, already skipped leon, ash, adaman, irida, nccalem, ncserena
Oh also ssacynthia and sstred
upbeat lotus
This month is just i like toxicrity and it is poison, too tempting not to pull ...
always think if you pull anyone without having a pity, you have to get a punishment
(by EXing Cheren, 20/20 Acerola,...)
worldly knot
I love strong unit so i keep pulling rip
Yea i only pull when i got pity, just a bit depressed to go pity on this pokefair
tardy fiber
I gonna ex cheren once i get him 3/5, but probably need 5 months for them to put him in poma day store again
tardy fiber
Yea i only pull when i got pity, just a bit depressed to go pity on this pokefai...
I already did pity on around 5 pokefairs, you will get used to it
worldly knot
Other mf that i want is just nc marnie, i guess im not pulling any other mf unless a new one
crisp grotto
(by EXing Cheren, 20/20 Acerola,...)
What if your Cheren is already EX'd
worldly knot
I already did pity on around 5 pokefairs, you will get used to it <:TabithaHehe:...
Damn this game is harsh
tardy fiber
I used to not believe it but then i realised that Master Fair has 1% rate while Poke Fair has 2% rate...not like it differs much
upbeat lotus
What if your Cheren is already EX'd
you have to 5* 20/20 sup Machamp
tardy fiber
Still 98% rate to get things you dont want
crisp grotto
you have to 5* 20/20 sup Machamp
Not the eggmon 
worldly knot
I never pull when i dont have pity
Now my gem is getting thin, i guess i should only pull when it is on strong side of uber tier, i will just pull until the tier get updated or super fave
upbeat lotus
you should reconsider that if pulling her is worth it right now ir not, especially December usually introduces big faves
worldly knot
I have pulled and get to pity lol
upbeat lotus
sadly she leaves before datamine oh well
worldly knot
Glad i didnt pull last month
tardy fiber
Well if you pull based on damage, later they release another higher damage pair, you will get tempted to pull again...so i rather pull based on fave
worldly knot
After this I will pull only on the strong side of uber i think, they rarely get replaced haha
Though regigas was fun even though not in uber
upbeat lotus
Well if you pull based on damage, later they release another higher damage pair,...
yeah pulling for meta drains your gems very fast
worldly knot
Yea tru rip
unkempt vortex
This is a gacha game if they didn’t push strong units some people would have no reason to pull
tardy fiber
Pulling for Master Fairs might be neat, if they get outdated, they still have that nice master passives... although it still needs a bunch of gems, especially when they release new MF every 3 or 4 months
unkempt vortex
Even if the content is easy
tardy fiber
December MF and then half anni MF...urgh the gap is not much
vestal leaf
Guys how do you save up gems? Lately seems dena throwing good units, this month...
Barely 5-10% of limited units released since day one can be considered "bad"
So once you understand that, you also understand you can either save for faves or drown
ashen thunder
The supposed bad units are mostly year 1 units or joke units like pelesa
They never really released weak unit for a long time
Other than free stuff
Even those are workable ontype
compact pasture
Do we know this PoMa Day’s free unit?
vestal leaf
Damn this game is harsh
It's much more lenient than most gachas tbh
upbeat lotus
Do we know this PoMa Day’s free unit?
Cheren
vestal leaf
The supposed bad units are mostly year 1 units or joke units like pelesa
As much of a joke palesa is, she's not a horrible flying unit
unkempt vortex
She’s funny
vestal leaf
Her fly can hurt like hell
unkempt vortex
Different does not mean bad
vestal leaf
She's not great but not bad either
unkempt vortex
Just like SS n he’s different but by no means bad
vestal leaf
When I think bad I think units like fall Morty or mimirola
Who are good nukers with no DPS
ashen thunder
Pelesa still bad compared to 90% of stuff they released past 3 years
vestal leaf
And need heavy catering
vestal leaf
It's not bad if it can turn denial and dodge
It's meme
ashen thunder
If you say pelesa is good
Then there's like less than 20 bad units overall
Incl free stuff
upbeat lotus
yes she is bad compared to other modern units, but she herself isnt bad
vestal leaf
Meme isn't inherently bad
vestal leaf
Fall Phoebe and summer Hilda are considered bad compared to most supports of last 3 years
ashen thunder
All elesa simps coping
vestal leaf
But they're still fine
vestal leaf
upbeat lotus
people calling her bad because she doesnt buff crit
unkempt vortex
Summer hilda is weird
vestal leaf
Who's coping now
ashen thunder
When modern units all self buff in 1 turn
vestal leaf
people calling her bad because she doesnt buff crit
Well her buffing is obsolete, her bulk is mediocre and her utility is extremely niche
She's still fine tho
Same goes for palesa
ashen thunder
Even during her release we were getting 1 turn setups and dps with aoe crit buffs
Unlike pelesa
Who is a joke fly unit
vestal leaf
Have you actually used her tho
unkempt vortex
You could make that same argument for SS hilbert
ashen thunder
Sshilbert doesn't take 2 turns to use a move
Ssn still gives Accel if you bring him in
unkempt vortex
This
ashen thunder
So does nate
vestal leaf
It's just less optimal
ashen thunder
vestal leaf
Yeah
unkempt vortex
You say it like she’s unplayable
ashen thunder
Cheren is playable
vestal leaf
Ofc you can make Nate work but it's worse because his grid is ass
vestal leaf
And his denials are garbage
ashen thunder
He's playable
No it's not
I use bulu with nate ontype
He sweeps
The standard for good is non existent here
vestal leaf
Yeah but you're arguing about palesa like she's barely better than nate
When she's better than a good number of seasonal strikers
ashen thunder
Yes and I am considering them all bad
Including pelesa
You are placing standard for good and bad that low, then it doesn't make a valid point to recommend someone to skip an actually strong unit when someone asks for zen opinion
vestal leaf
Idk, that sounds very much like being unable to discern between almost unusable, bad, mediocre and usable
ashen thunder
Coz you already consider majority of roster good
vestal leaf
There's not just Ubers, good and bad
ashen thunder
and they'll more likely to disregard opinions
vestal leaf
This is zen tho
If someone likes a character they should pull on it even if they're bad
As long as they accept it
tardy fiber
If someone likes a character they should pull on it even if they're bad
I agree
vestal leaf
And know it won't deal gazillion hp
Because it'll still clear like 95% of other units
Just slowly? Less easily? It will actually need some team building?
tardy fiber
Having fun with my Ss Hau, it feels like a reward as he appeared after i skipped ash and sstred...patience pays off
vestal leaf
I used 1/5 mimirola and victrier to 2v3 2.5k
They're fun
And as long as it's not a hard rotation
They can do it
It's more satisfying and fun than slapping renegade Cyn with an eggmon and then cry about content being free
ashen thunder
The point is not about fun...it's about what point is being made to recommend someone to skip for a unit
vestal leaf
the point isn't about fun
literally gem zen
Zenning is supposed to be used to save for faves, not for meta
vestal leaf
People asking here get always the same response tho
"not fave = skip"
That's the only answer
Because playing with faves is inherently is more fun than playing with latest meta broken unit
So yeah, fun should be a huge part of the reason to skip or not
People that need to ask if they should skip or not ask because they're momentarily lacking focus or awareness about how many op broken cookie cutter builds we get every year so the answer being "is it fave" is always the best and only way imo
unkempt vortex
if the point was about who to skip then you could argue no one because the game is in a state where most units on release are strong and therefore everyone is worth pulling
vestal leaf
Yeah that's why meta pulling is weak
maiden kayak
People that need to ask if they should skip or not ask because they're momentari...
nowadays dont seem to grasp the concept of delayed gratification
ppl justw ants instant gratification
vestal leaf
Yeah that too
maiden kayak
wrong way to approach zen imo
vestal leaf
I mean FOMO is key to gachas
It's ok to fall for it once in a while
And it's even more ok to ask others
About tips on how and IF it's worth saving
maiden kayak
anyone playing by meta imo is just saving for the sake of saving
vestal leaf
Many bad faves can be carried by meta supports anyways, so if you wanna pull meta every now and then, you should do it by proxy of making faves better
maiden kayak
thats not really how fun is when u have someone else overpowers it in split second
vestal leaf
Yeah I save for outfits, for mons, for characters
Kits ofc matter but only to a degree
maiden kayak
even supports are getting powercrept more quickly than strikers
vestal leaf
Yeah but then again, most supports now are all purpose + a quirk
Like sure NC blue does everything but SS Kris sets rain, xmas jasmine has seup, NC Bede has insane gauge and sync cd etc etc
Meanwhile strikers are just "this one hits 10% harder"
"this one has a funny sync"
I just think I'd rather scout units like mimirola, which is bottom of the barrel meta wise, than any aura Cynthia
Dupe Mon, shilled character, ok outfit? Idc if she's #1 support, easy skip
winged fossil
How would you guys react if they someday give us a pair and just tell us “this one does not have a sync, have fun trying to figure out how to make use of it”