Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)

[winged fossil]

So the first rotation of rollcoin summary for me is managing to hit every day of bp daily other than hoenn support day. not terrible for the first full rotation of this. And now all but that one is on the right teams now as expected

Now that we’re finally repeating stages again

Shame that I fell behind on these but atleast the full coins I didn’t fall behind by much with

[tardy fiber]

I thought we still need few more days, now it only started the rotation for 10th cake coin

[winged fossil]

Technically 9th coin if you exclude the rally

[tardy fiber]

Yeap, so need a month plus to make a full cake coin unless use tickets or pull on pokefairs

Maybe 2 months, a month only give 6 cake coins for each

[winged fossil]

~100 days if you rely solely on the stages for the coins, iirc.

[tardy fiber]

Yeap

[winged fossil]

But at least that’s for a full set. And can be shortened with daily tix/rallies/poke fairs

[tardy fiber]

So still havent first full rotation yet, full rotation probably after we done the 100 days

[winged fossil]

I mean full rotation of regions

[tardy fiber]

Oh so about region tickets? Not cake coins?

[winged fossil]

Sorry for ping forgot to tap it just now I think

[rare swan]

we've completed the full rotation as of today

we're back to sinnoh, where it started

[winged fossil]

[tardy fiber]

But why Rhythm mentioned cake coins rotation

[winged fossil]

Which means we finally don’t have to dig through preset teams

For the new bp coin stages

The coins are in bp stages and it’s been a full rotation so I only have one stage that I’d have to dig to the bottom of my team list to do

That’s basically what I mean

[rare swan]

yup, my sinnoh team appeared

which was very nice

[tardy fiber]

Oh

[winged fossil]

Literally my regional teams are 91-98.

[tardy fiber]

Thats a lot of teams, i put the regions on top

[winged fossil]

Cause I don’t touch those team slots 90% of the time. And have 99 open for when paldea sometime drops into rotation

[tardy fiber]

And 18 types team after

Well we need to do it again once more Paldea rolling in

[winged fossil]

I have a lot of preset team slots laying around from one of my gauntlet streaks

[tardy fiber]

Oh i deleted gauntlet teams after done with gauntlet...only kept the ones that can auto

[winged fossil]

I’ve got some old fav teams that I need to revamp sometime and I have my five cs ones, five event cs/hs ones, etc.

[tardy fiber]

I put:
Region teams
5 cs teams
5 special cs teams
18 types teams
1 gym leader
1 elite four
2 bvilla

Still sad that none of my faves have elite four tag

That said, i just recently managed to have 3 gym leaders...ssmorty, smliza, smtate

[winged fossil]

My villa team is slot 100 cause I don’t have to change it almost ever even mid clear anymore. So since the stages remember the team slot I’m just like “yeah this’ll make sure I don’t do any weird overwriting accidents, probably”

Been doing something like irida cred and proton for my villa, with just an extend ice zone/hail entry grid on irida, it’s enough to cleave through it like a knife through butter so

[tardy fiber]

For now only gym leader and elite four tags had been legendary arena missions rite? Is there other tags? Better for me to preset it

Oh variety frontier brain needs battle facility...easy because all chatelaines has it

[winged fossil]

I mean we haven’t even gotten La missions in a few months so they prob went extinct like bonanza and stamina rallies

Even registeel didn’t debut with any so I’m more convinced than ever that we won’t see them anymore

[tardy fiber]

Sad, but i will be less mad if they repeat the skill gear event to replace bonanza, because iirc it give almost similar amount of gems

100 gems daily with a free skill gear on top

[winged fossil]

I wouldn’t mind more skill gear events to help us build stock of those. But I kinda feel like that’s probably until we see them actually do it. I am happy they’re replacing the measly amounts of in events with a pack of gear tho

[tardy fiber]

Talking about sync orbs, the daily gift at pokemon center lobby still give 10 sync orbs sometimes... what can i do with only 10? At least skip tickets can do something

[winged fossil]

Skip ticket gifts can’t do a dent in anything for me anymore. 10 corb is more than even 1k tickets could do for me now
Sure it’s a meaningless number but I’m never gonna catch up to my ticket number unless we for some reason get an event type that isn’t stamina costing and isn’t inventory gated like egg events are.

So I’d rather have the extra orb than tickets

[tardy fiber]

Well to compare, lodge guest give 500-1000 orbs sometimes than pokemon center daily give 10 orbs sometimes

10 versus 500/1000

[oak crest]

Technically if u do all 10 daily missions on a daily basis it's almost impossible for your tickets to go down

Unless ur wasting them on egg stages

[versed flame]

spending 50 tickets every time

[broken mulch]

Yeah my skip tickets keeps rising and I have to wonder what the heck are people that are running out are using them on

[unkempt vortex]

Even without doing all daily missions you still gain

Half of them give like 4 per mission

Total of 36 a day

[lost bobcat]

I intentionally avoided every single skip ticket bcs I don't need them
And yet they're just increasing, 4k early this year and above 6k now
So it's impossible to go down
How I remember? Well I was reaching the same amount of skip tickets and so I was monitoring both
(Never dumped skips on eggs)

[ashen thunder]

Use 50 skip ticket everytime egg hatches during egg event

[sturdy hatch]

Gotta guarantee that the 100% chance will fire

[tardy fiber]

This also keeps rising although i already gridded all pairs that i have, hope eggmon grids arrives soon

[vernal glade]

I hope so too, or best of yet, make a sync orb discard option.

[tardy fiber]

Or sync orb convert to power ups

I still need those

Eventhough i dont EX non faves, making em 5* 20/20 just for the extra stats also aint bad

Also if it happens, i can 5* a bunch of shiny eggmons

[fallen path]

I buy that bundle but I just don’t use sync orb training so I don’t hit the 999,999 bottleneck

[tardy fiber]

Wow thats fast

[fallen path]

No I’m not at 999,999 lol

I’m at 300 or 400k. Don’t really remember

[tardy fiber]

Certificates are also piling up, i got 51 certs in the bag and i already 150 all of my 71 faves

[fallen path]

Then hoard or use them as see fit

I let them pile up and use them to clear content if needed

If I want oddly specific comps in CS, HS, or LG and need the extra damage

[tardy fiber]

Hope the mysterious stones help to unlock level cap, iirc absol said level 151-200 also uses certs

Got 19 stones in the bag now

[sand crown]

I only have 10 🪦

But I hope they lead to something useful

[tardy fiber]

Yep

A free pair perhaps

Like exchange it with 40 stones

[broken mulch]

Still only 4

[sand crown]

I can’t wait for it to be x500 skip tickets

[tardy fiber]

Cannot wait for next reset, i will finally get my first cake role fave pair

Too poor to try whale scout, so had to collect it slowly

[fallen path]

I think I’m close to support cake

[rustic heron]

||man, it really sucks when a banner you want to pull on is at the end of the month

very agonizing to wait til the 22nd to get ||

[tardy fiber]

I felt that before during last year's anniv, shaymin released quite late....early month is full of skips

Well at least you will have a fave later and thats a good thing

[sand crown]

Who is the lucky pair?

I have enough for a tech or support, but I’m holding for now

[tardy fiber]

||Palmer, i think he need the most help because he is a normal type... well at least this will give him more power to clear contents, well ncred already clear ice weak easily and nothing weak to normal||

In 2 resets ||it will be zerena's turn, i always sync with her to change form anyway, might as well give her more stuffs||

[sand crown]

||very solid reasoning. If none of the next MF set benefits spectacularly, I will be giving Zerena and Palmer theirs||

[tardy fiber]

Well if you're not in a rush, might as well wait for datamine...i will gonna give cake to all of my faves eventually so for now its just based on priority and gameplay wise and helping to clear stuff regarding cakes

Probably will prioritise those that changes forms

Well need to sync anyways

[sand crown]

Yes. I’m more of a necrozma fan so I’d like to have one on standby

[broken mulch]

I actually prefer the banner I want at the end

Means I can wait for datamine haha

[vestal leaf]

Based|| (3/5 caked here)||

[tardy fiber]

Nice

[broken mulch]

Unless you mean which one releases for the same event in which case yeah I prefer immediately

[vestal leaf]

||He can clear 20hp +6 Def pre sync with cake with two broken assistants 1/5||

||I love my man Palmer, he's so good||

[sand crown]

||Clair do you think 3/5 is enough for him or are you going all the way someday? He is a candy project for me so not sure||

[tardy fiber]

It will help for my ||normal type cs faves run, mainly because Gladion barely do anything , gladion buff when DeNa?||

[sand crown]

||note I don’t think I will ever 5/5 units with 4 candies…if I ever do, it’ll be because I got to 3/5 some other way||

[tardy fiber]

I not gonna 5/5 limited faves using candies, i rather have 2 3/5 limited faves instead also there's some chance that i might get their move levels while doing select scout...it happens to my 4/5 lucas and ssdawn oh and 4/5 N thanks to DeNa's free lodge pokefair select

[vestal leaf]

||4/5 is good to clear the hardest params (-3 sync +20 hp + some Def) because of command 9, but impervious is mostly for gimmick stages so it's debatable
5/5 is... eh. Okay if he's not caked I guess?||

||I feel like Palmer gains more from cake than 4/5 and 5/5||

[tardy fiber]

Now i gonna make 2/5 faves as priority, well at least this will make a fair select offer that actually have a fave that i want dupe levels to have higher chance of happening

[hard wave]

I wish I could take some from u, still 2 left to grid and maybe more

[crisp oracle]

Exactly 116K

[feral vale]

We love exacts in this house

[rare swan]

[tardy fiber]

I cannot do exacts, thanks to poma day scout

[crisp oracle]

I don't really do PoMa Day Scout anymore

[crisp oracle]

Welp

Long ways to go

[tardy fiber]

I still need some move levels and also 0/5 melony and drasna

[crisp oracle]

I got lucky and I have everyone but Drasna and Olympia, and soon to be Lenora

[vernal glade]

I’m only missing gordie and courtney , will be only Drasna Olympia and Lenora.

[reef river]

Tomorrow begins the challenge of staying strong for the datamine

I realized today that even if i did commit to going for broke for roxanne, if i didnt get lucky for her and get her in the first half of a spark id have to wait till the end of the month to get enough gems for her anyway

So i just have to think of it that way

[broken mulch]

Alright I’ll be at 51k at end of October, so assuming November is skip I’ll be back to double pity at end of that month

Is there like a bot command to see how many coins are left this month?

[rare swan]

we don't track coins

oh wait hang on, for a minute I thought you meant the real coins

but no, iirc we haven't got a specific command for the candy coins

[broken mulch]

Oh ok thanks

Also LMAO no not the gold coins to buy stuff

[uneven pewter]

So someone help me with the math on this since yes it is a resource question

So i have one striker cake and 6 coins in the rear saved up

Currently only have 6 tech coins saved up with no tech candies available

The biggest logistical challenge for me is i want to be able to 3/5 arriana and cake her the same day

Without dropping a yellow candy

[ashen thunder]

We average 1 full tech candy every 2 months usually
Since you already have 6, candies alone should take 3ish months

3 months is also long enough for another strike cake

Coz 6 coin per month -> 18 cake coin

For 3 months

[uneven pewter]

K

That’s more what i was wondering is if i could cake Giovanni in good faith

Without waiting forever on a second

[timber wren]

i think you can given daily tickets

[ashen thunder]

Don't even need daily tickets if waiting for tech candy to accumulate

[uneven pewter]

I mean as much as i want to hoard tickets solely for support cakes in a meta fashion

[timber wren]

it’ll probably be at least until the end of november before you get enough tech coins to form a candy

[uneven pewter]

I am saying favorites first

[uneven pewter]

That’s what I figured since i just blew two tech candies on anni leaftres

[timber wren]

so in that time you’ll get enough tickets to form an additional 9ish cake coins

[uneven pewter]

Plus whatever i have now

[timber wren]

plus the ones you get from daily rotation

[uneven pewter]

Good deal on this

Ty all

[crisp oracle]

is zerena considered the top pair to drop a support cake into

I'm almost at one

[uneven pewter]

Eh…

That’s a pretty load question

[timber wren]

leaf serena and paulo all make very good use of it, it just comes down to your own preference

[crisp oracle]

i'll probably wait before dropping an entire cake down as their isn't too many support rolex units yet

[timber wren]

thorton too

[crisp oracle]

also I only have Zerena as my choice

I don't own

but I could wait, hopefully SS Diantha is given support

[sand crown]

There could always be a future use for it, no need to do it here unless you really want to

Yeah exactly

[crisp oracle]

or strike for SS Diantha actually

[sand crown]

Cakes are a luxury thankfully

[timber wren]

yeah it’s fine to wait and save them like we recommend for candy too

[crisp oracle]

i'm on five of each candy lol

and I haven't felt any need to candy anyone

so i'm waiting for faves

[uneven pewter]

I mean i am only doing Giovanni because I’m an unapologetic villain simp

But the support cakes have nobody i really want to have the added luxury

Plus for me justification wise, Giovannidon has a monstrous sync move

So it makes sense for a pair that i like to make them better

Ss serena enjoys the luxury of having the support ex boost but unless you’re one of the many serena is the bestest evah fans

Best to just save it

[hard wave]

Oh tlim also posts breakdowns for other resources

[winged fossil]

Done the fall event. finished box 11 today

Got around a week of saving left before I dip from the chat briefly to grab one of my last rerun targets in the game for a trainer fav. I’m not hesitating when it comes, only will hesitate if ||I beat pity and consider going deeper,|| as at that point I can wait to datamine to decide

Oh come to think of it. I didn’t even realize. I’m over two pities right now arent I…

I completely forgot I was on that milestone of saving lol

Think I’m doing pretty well candy wise too. Just waiting for a strike or tech that doesn’t satisfy me without the dupes or for me to find a use for a current one that I want the dupes for.

The only trainer fav I think I have rn that isn’t quite how I’d want it is zekrom n, but that can wait since it’s not a gigantic improvement anyways compared to some other units that I have, and might grab dupes of him on some future freebies down the road if no one interests me

[uneven pewter]

Lounge is a scary place stay zenning

[crisp oracle]

||the amount of people encouraging yolos ||

[tough oriole]

Oh i forgot lounge existed

I’ve removed lounge, gachaflex, and saltchannel from my channels list

[mossy hawk]

||gem count jumpscare||

[broken mulch]

? I looked at lounge a bit and didn’t see anyone telling people to pull

[ashen thunder]

It's more about temptations rather than recommendation

Coz people flex their shiny new toys there

[fallen path]

Really depends how you handle the temptations

Case by case basis

[unkempt vortex]

Like people don’t flex here?

[fallen path]

People do flex here, but mainly sharing gem counts lol

[ashen thunder]

flex is usually spoilered here atleast

[broken mulch]

Of course they’re gonna discuss their dates lol

[hard wave]

When ppl say to idt its meant srsly

[violet nebula]

Who doesn't love a flex

[lean mango]

[maiden kayak]

cake tix always convert support first

striker is probably the last pirority

[warm scarab]

Btw what do you use your coins for.

[winged fossil]

wdym?

[warm scarab]

You have 15mil so you just be spending it on something

As in the money coins

[winged fossil]

gear, lodge omni boosters

i started lodge pretty late

didnt rly do much lodge till ~3.5anni

[warm scarab]

I see

What am I doing wrong with this liza oak clear I can't even get past bar 1

[rare swan]

I think you're in the wrong thread

[warm scarab]

Ops

[tardy fiber]

Man i need to keep on motivate myself to spam gauntlet for pink cookies, kinda lazy when i keep repeating 14 teams but i need to remember that last time i try to get cs2, it cost me close to 50 cookies

[versed flame]

^^^ yeah just autoing the first cycle rn

what difference does it make to do further cycles?

[tardy fiber]

More chance to get gold deluxe cookies

The rate increases with streaks

[warm scarab]

I find it just way easier to repeat the 1st run lol

The effort to pay off ratio is much better

[tardy fiber]

I guess so, i will doing only 1st run after i got 50 deluxe...i can get around 5+ gold deluxe with 14 streaks

Need some in the bag in case koraidon with sun kit appears and want ww3

[slow hare]

Good for you for making 14 auto teams already tho that's impressive

[tardy fiber]

Not really auto, i need to press for some teams

[versed flame]

I've got 5 auto teams rn, one is kinda unreliable though (tornadus 2)

think i might be able to pull together another registeel one for a full two cycles

my first cycle team is nearly 100% reliable full auto though so great for farming the regular cookies

i need the creamy ones so much... vigilance rolling has not been good to me

esp. giving it to supports for EBEs

[tardy fiber]

RNG is harsh sometimes, i also hunt silver deluxe for entry lucky skills... luckily i manage to give my Dana sentry entry 2, i can chill abit now while farming cookies

[vestal leaf]

I gave her HS1

For duo runs

[tardy fiber]

I see, i rarely want to duo and make things harder to myself so i just give her the best lucky skill that fit my gameplay

[vestal leaf]

Yeah, hs1 is good in general imo

She has team +1 Def on hit anyway

HS1 gives you funny turn denial snowball effect in CS

Again, your call, I was just chiming in

[tardy fiber]

Well sentry entry 2 helps to make her tankier before she died and help to make her be able to buff the team...and yeah i like sentry entry 2 more on her just like i put sentry entry 2 on scjasmine to make her tankier and not dying to a random earthquake or rock slide

[feral vale]

I CAN FINALLY ZEN AGAIN!!!!

[tardy fiber]

Nice

Cannot wait for fall event rerun, i can 5* lodge gio with the free 10

[feral vale]

[winged fossil]

I tried lodge calem last night. He’s fun.

Glad to have another usable fire damage unit

[snow rose]

||“The scouts almost over” Akari temptation is kicking in pray for me ||

[mild spindle]

Is there a link to a doc that tlim or someone else maintains that has the monthly breakdown of gem rewards?

[mild spindle]

I was taking a look at @timber wren ‘s #1010223517565976737 and according to the monthly totals, were down almost 22k gems compared to last year as of the end of September.

Wanted to make sure I had that accurately.

jan    30,400    33,250    2,850
feb    40,540    33,530    -7,010
mar    29,930    32,880    2,950
apr    34,360    24,780    -9,580
may    29,420    34,210    4,790
jun    25,270    26,280    1,010
jul    25,420    24,050    -1,370
aug    45,460    33,650    -11,810
sep    29,640    25,640    -4,000
total                      -22,170```

[timber wren]

broken down how?

[mild spindle]

Login / event / rally / new one-time additions

[timber wren]

like per day? we just have tlim's charts that are pinned here each month

when im tallying for the end of the month i just search back thru those posts

and compare to my own totals

and account for extra gems from rallies and bug fixes

[mild spindle]

Okay but is it all in an excel sheet instead of individual images?

[mild spindle]

Per month / update. Daily isn’t as important

I edited in a chart of your totals

[timber wren]

im afraid this is all i have

i dont have it split between how we obtain the gems

[mild spindle]

Yeah that’s okay, I figured only certain people were keeping track of the breakdowns

Is my negative 22k figure accurate? Seems pretty drastic, considering we have 25% more limited units this year.

[fallen path]

Depends how you want to calculate it since we have the story/champion gems from that 45k and that’s more or less permanent

[mild spindle]

well one-time sources should counted seperately

Ideally

[vestal leaf]

It's pretty clear to me they're using this to compensate the introduction of the 20 day bundles I feel

[mild spindle]

I didn't want to say it, but that was also my guess. Feels like things have pivoted with them in mind.

[hard wave]

sucks for us f2p who dont even buy it

[vestal leaf]

They also kinda killed revenue, so edging economy on them after seeing Q1-2 2023 returns seems appropriate for a company

Bundles basically cut a medium whale's expenses in PoMa by around 400-600 bucks yearly

Sure you get more small spenders

But some players getting both bundles (40 bucks average per month) doesn't compensate all the whales buying less gems and saving money because of them

I've been expecting it to happen for at least 6 months tbh

They had to either

• reduce economy
• limit or make bundles worse

[timber wren]

01aug-30sep is about 16k less than last year

so that accounts for most of the 22k less

which is why it stung so bad at anni combined with the new unit types, role cakes, and 12 limited units

[hard wave]

I hope next yr isnt as bad new units wise unless they start a new arc and they combine it w anni it shouldnt be that bad? 7/12 were just for the VA finale

Which is abt the same as last yr, 3 MFs + 1 SC vs 3 MFs and 2 PFs

[timber wren]

so 8% fewer gems with 25% more limited units, no wonder everyone is feeling the squeeze

[fallen path]

Yeah, introducing two new scouts (one being paid only). YouTuber Whales can’t even use free gems for those cakes

[violet nebula]

Guess they can go and.... blast off like team rocket🤣

[uneven pewter]

What makes it sting even more is that September nor October have anything else to bring up the gem count

And the rally counted towards the october count

So yea it’s a very skinny fall

[hard wave]

|| its been tough for me since all the reruns I want r either 2022/2023 PFs, finished my MF reruns tho ||

[hard wave]

• we havent gotten any LA missions, special rally, or bonanza (training area boost came but for nemona, otherwise its missing too) since july

May was the last month with a good gem count, since then it hasnt gone above 30k

[feral vale]

Did you get ||Zerena?|| :0

[hard wave]

|| yes she was the last MF I wanted, u? ||

|| I also gave her a cake and im 1 coin away from 3/5 ||

[feral vale]

||Got her yesterday!||

[crisp oracle]

It’s been such a slow gem month

[hard wave]

[hard wave]

Yeah ive been pretty bored recently due to everyday just being collect login bonuses and do dailies

[crisp oracle]

It’s so hard to save when gems are slow but I have a plan to get what I want and be ready for it

[tardy fiber]

I will only have 80k at the end of this datamine, oh i just noticed that the EBE rerun only gives 1.5k gems in total...i thought it will be 3k because there's 5 EBE reruns

[vernal glade]

That’s what I thought also, 3k.

[tardy fiber]

Probably only the easy difficulty then, well much better for lots of people but still lose half of the gems

The easy difficulty is easier to beat, way easier

[hard wave]

Its pt 2 iirc

[tardy fiber]

Oh so the harder one

I only hate adaman ebe part 2, had to make cs2 dawn for it

[vernal glade]

Same

[tardy fiber]

Kinda stings when i spend months to get her wise entry 2 and need to change it to cs2...hope || my|palmer can carry for adaman EBE next time ||

[hard wave]

#1009557516369281075 message its a sinnoh ebe but not adaman luckily

It does need dif weather and is grass weak tho

[tardy fiber]

Can just bring candice i guess or bertha

Oh wait its sand

So candice it is

But if DeNa ever do good value MF select ||i might be tempted to get adaman and irida just for lodge ||

[hard wave]

|| im thinking ill bring dawn irida and rei/akari? Prob rei for defense debuffs ||

|| both r 3/5 but rei has cake so ill prob bring him ||

[tardy fiber]

Oh right there's still chances for more hisui to appear before the EBE reruns, here's hoping for the origin forms, manaphy, phione, heatran, thundurus and enamorus

Oh silly me, arceus too

[hard wave]

It leaves nov 3rd

So yeah they’d have to release quite fast

[tardy fiber]

I wonder if next month will be hisui related too, they cannot keep us in the dark about mysterious stones for long

[tawny cedar]

2/3 way there to pity

[rare swan]

[tawny cedar]

If we get an extra 3k before oct1 I can pity for farty,if not I have a pity for next month

[vestal leaf]

Last day to resist akari wooo

[rare swan]

Stay strong

The datamine approaches

[vestal leaf]

Yeah, once she's gone it's easy cruisin

[hallow pecan]

I'm at 297/400 pity in the Halloween banner. Can I reach pity before banner expires?

[strange trout]

So

If the gacha calculator says you have an 85% chance of success

Don't be tempted

You can still die

Don't be me

This has been your bi-monthly PSA to save gems

[strange trout]

You can do /banners in #bot-zone and it'll show you how gems you can get before the banners end

You can calculate from there

[tardy fiber]

True, kinda why I did not use a gacha calculator or pull simulator, lucky in there doesn't mean you will be truly lucky when attempting

[strange trout]

It was a calculated risk
I did the math
But ultimately it's up to RNG to decide how much it wants to screw you over

[oak crest]

I feel that pull stimulator gives u even more temptation if ur lucky when using it

[tardy fiber]

Yep, thats why i avoid it

[versed flame]

definitely

occasionally i use a binomial distribution calculator to figure what the chances of pulling extra copies before pity are, but i haven't really bothered recently since I'm committing to pity if bust anyway

i might pull it out when deciding about the ||unoVA banner|| though 🤔 because ||three pairs||

[feral vale]

PSA this is more suited for #poma-questions , pretty sure you should not reference that here.

[uncut kayak]

It’s hard to keep reminding myself that I don’t need Zerena because I have ss Leon at 3/5

[feral vale]

Meanwhile, powerboosted Cyrus:

[uncut kayak]

Lol

I should give Cyrus a chance

[brave torrent]

What are the chances of not going to pity on the 0.3 percent chance banner

[uncut kayak]

High?

Oh not going to pity

Low?

[crisp grotto]

Are you considering for a specific single unit? Or happy with any of em?

[brave torrent]

I am and only 1

[sand crown]

It’s brutal if you’re only aiming for one.

[brave torrent]

Master fairs are like 30 percent pity or so I think

[timber wren]

like 33%

to not have to pity

[crisp grotto]

Yeah it's 33% to not go to pity

[timber wren]

in comparison MFs are like, 75%

[hard wave]

I wish the seasonal reruns were dual banners

[brave torrent]

Has anyone went to pity on a pole fair

[crisp grotto]

Many people

[hard wave]

#salt-channel message reminder

[crisp grotto]

Owch

[feral vale]

Multiple times myself.

[brave torrent]

😔 😟 🙁 😥 😞 😿 😔 😟 🙁 😥 😞 😿 😔 😟 🙁 😥 😞 😿 😔 😟 🙁 😥 😞

[uncut kayak]

On ss hau for me

[feral vale]

Emoji spam

[uneven pewter]

More than masters fairs oddly enough

Like for masters fairs i have only had to hard pity Zerena, Archie….technically i got on the last pull before pity but i still pitied, Anni steven was a mega feels bad pity that i still feel the L on, Adaman was a hard pity and then my latest hard pity was good ol NC leaf

But hey…i have all 25 masters fairs to date

Meanwhile pokefairs…

Yea I’d rather not talk about it

I am actually glad my list of fairs that I don’t have is growing

Because it makes fomo less and less important

[broken mulch]

Seasonals bled me dry quite a few times lol

[half herald]

arghhh I'm tempted to pull almost all the limited pairs available rn but ik more busted units will come out later

[unkempt vortex]

When everyone’s stupid no one is

[winged fossil]

||just a few more days of waiting before i can go nuts on SSN rerun 3way... hoping for an early hit so i can sit on my pile till datamine to decide if i want to go deep or not... full skipping it isn't an option, i must exit with at least SSN.||

||if i can early hit all 3 then i might end up doing a victory dance or something||

YOOO I just realized they reran helena

another new pair for me!

which event was this girl from?

dont know her name

[tough oriole]

NY Dawn/Lisia event

She’s Kali

[winged fossil]

so kali might rerun on nys?

[upbeat lotus]

She should

[winged fossil]

pog

[tough oriole]

She was the first main series unit with a basic model get into the game
(Sightseer Naomi and Hex Maniac Helena aren’t in the main series)

[winged fossil]

im doing the event rn and just got sc lillie ghost zone twice in a row lmao, why cant i get this rng on a banner instead?

this feels like a bad omen for my next banner

tbh idek why im using sc lillie in the event when all shes doing is crit for ||fallbert||

[feral vale]

@tardy fiber He has been evicted

[tough oriole]

[tardy fiber]

Whoa why ive been tagged

[feral vale]

Gio has been yeeted from Lodge >:3

[tardy fiber]

Oh gio, congratsss...i already yeeted him 2 days ago haha but only managed to 5* him yesterday

[tawny cedar]

Is it possible for Dena to dump a lot of extra gems next datamine before oct 1?

Like how we got 4330 gems on 29th last month

[cunning swan]

dena's been stingy with free gems lately

[tardy fiber]

Not sure, even if its a big event it probably close to 2k gems on the first day it appears but pretty sure we wont have enough stamina to claim all of the gems from mission

Recharging stamina cost gems too

Lodge does give big surprises sometimes, I'm in for a big one soon

[sturdy hatch]

I’ve definitely tested this before, but thought, maybe …

[tawny cedar]

I need a little more than 3k for pity

[tardy fiber]

Time to , well even if there's a 3k gems rally, they will probably give us at the end of November so by that time the fall banner is long gone

[tardy fiber]

I almost bought it, man, DeNa should add some blue tick or some other symbols on it if we already owned that track

[cunning swan]

i accidentally exchanged it

[tawny cedar]

Welp

High chance no farty

Hopefully atleast scjasmine next month

[tardy fiber]

Oh right there might be SC next month, hope no faves of mine will appear

I still have nightmares of pokewar sc with 4 faves on a dry gems month

[sturdy hatch]

And didn’t want me? Smdh

[tawny cedar]

When do we usually get datamine ?

[hard wave]

+datamine

[jade lava]

Datamine usually happens at the end of each month between the 25th and 29th (PDT)
Check #datamines for raw dumps and #1012256199128915968 for recap and schedules.
Here is a history of previous datamine dates : https://tinyurl.com/pmexdataminehistory

[hard wave]

Im guessing the 27th, since 28-29th r weekends

[uneven pewter]

Don’t pull for meta

Let me tell you the sad tale

Of doc and ny volkner

Back when ny volkner came out

There was hardly any electrical pairs to do damage

I went hard on him to get him

Biggest regret of that year

Since it was the year of the doomchus

He was at the top for electric pairs for a microcosmic moment

These pairs will all come and go

You want to know where all the rockets are? Not at the top. You want to know who went for all of them? Me. Solely because i wanted them as faves

If you pull for faves you’ll find reasons to use them

If you pull for meta you’ll cast them aside when the next shiny comes

[cunning swan]

every month there will be units who are said to be "one of the strongest damage dealers in the game" so it's important to hold back and pick and choose

[unkempt vortex]

Or do the better thing

And never pull again

It’s a gacha powercreep is only gonna get higher

[uneven pewter]

Imma stop you right there Huey cause that’s simply not gonna happen

[unkempt vortex]

Skill issue

[uneven pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/morty-rick-and-morty-morty-skill-this-is-skill-skill-gif-25631404

[half herald]

Well yeah duh, especially for damage dealers. People ought to pull for more utility like pairs anyways.

[crisp oracle]

Not pulling for meta still holds true for utility pairs, not just damage dealers

Most supports and techs in this game still are alright

[uneven pewter]

Well techs don’t even age well

Look at SS May, and compare her to the techs that came out later

By one year

It’s a bit staggering tbh

Now there’s future proof pairs that are just stupid like redchu

[hard wave]

Mostly I want a poison or rock damage dealer, I have ariana but she doesnt have great dps

Oh and SS Diantha who I candied to 3/5, but would be nice to have a partner besides olivia

|| considering emma or cblue in the future ||

[lost bobcat]

ssMay is amazing, maybe it's anniMay that aged badly

[hard wave]

Anni May has psychic terrain atleast, spring may tho

[winged fossil]

anime is definitely someone that im both happy and upset to have. on one hand, its PT that can buff spatk for team barely taking gauge at all... on the other hand, thats like 90% of her potential as someone not willing to her

[unkempt vortex]

Anime when dena

[pure arrow]

3rd Anni, and that was it

[broken mulch]

I just use anime to PT and that’s fine haha

[tardy fiber]

Same, I'm glad that i have faves that can use psychic terrain. Her chip damage is also good, mist ball kinda hurts. Lately i just use her with sssteven while sslana with lussamine

Hope paradoxes will bring more sun and elec terrain faves

[past imp]

yay, temptation for ||Rei and Akari|| are gone!! I successfully refrained from spending gems!! :D

[feral vale]

What’s the gem count, my man? :0

[past imp]

61750

[feral vale]

[past imp]

they're really cool pairs so I was really tempted but each time I shut off the game... hope I don't regret not getting one of them

[crisp oracle]

Today marks another banner of succesfully avoiding FOMO like the plague

||Akari temptation avoided... SS Hilda, here we come!||

[feral vale]

Now we wait for datamine, once again, hoping for a skip month

[crisp oracle]

Finally, I can clear a unit off the top

[past imp]

4+ pities? wow, you are so extra prepared!

[crisp oracle]

those are units I want exclusively for gimmicks

so yea, ||im probably gonna try to get both SS Hilda and SS Hilbert||

SS N erasure

[past imp]

with 119k gems that's super easy

[hard wave]

[vernal glade]

Same

[crisp oracle]

||SC Diantha May come next month||

[broken mulch]

Oh is November Special Costume month?

[hard wave]

Maybe? Last yr we got rosa and no quad sc event

So ig we’ll see

Maybe they could release 3 other SCs to make a quad w rosa?

[crisp oracle]

Pokewar Rerun pls

[winged fossil]

we just got sc rosa rerun, i dont see her rerunning if thats what youre implying

[hard wave]

Prob not, but like 3 more that could form a quad w her ig? Idk its kind of weird that she released alone then they did another quad sc event

[winged fossil]

I don’t see her ever belonging to a quad, they waited too long to include her in a group imo

[hard wave]

True

[tardy fiber]

I wonder if the next datamine is still hisui related, they cannot keep mysterious stones in the dark for long i already got 22 of em

[vernal glade]

We gotta get an exchange with them.

Which may probably happen

[strange trout]

Inb4 Mysterious Stones become another forgotten and abandoned currency like Daily Tickets (pre 2023)

[broken mulch]

Isn’t it the same like when Archie and Maxie event was going on

[cunning swan]

i think more people need to appreciate Roxie and Koga

Olivia and Roark are also very solid rock damage dealers

[crisp grotto]

Yeah both Roxie and Koga are quite solid with their grids

[sturdy hatch]

Janine is solid with her grid

[lean mango]

Yea honestly, Koga has always been a good Poison dmg dealer and Roxie better too with her EX, actually with both their EXs

[cunning swan]

exactly, i never feel like i need more help with my poison team. roxie is so fun, i've been using her over ss giovanni now

[hard wave]

ill try her again, I used her before for the calem ebe and

Idt ive tried koga tho and idk ss gio’s poison feels meh

[ashen thunder]

Koga with ex is solid poison sweeper
Roxie is one of my regrets EXing a unit....I barely use her

[tardy fiber]

How about ssbrock? ...brocknix also not bad, he did carry me on kanto VA EBE before this as i skipped cblue

[winged fossil]

decided to use my rainbow ticket on registeel today after realizing its a +6 omni defense with both potion types and +6 speed (slowly) and mga for early into fight

just seemed like the ultimate LG tank slot excluding lack of on-hit healing and offense buffs

[tardy fiber]

Good choice, im at 9k bp, i will use it to dupe Dana later because i always prioritise 3/5 non MC bp pairs first

[winged fossil]

next rainbow ticket im grabbing landorus girl prob... nita think her name was

the one that does +4 atk +4 spd

rn tho im at like no points so itll be a while

[tardy fiber]

She's nice as well, i use her as a tank and spamming fly

[winged fossil]

round 4 255 pts rn

[tardy fiber]

She got ridicure, slippery slope and fall forward for fly kit

[winged fossil]

only reason im so behind is i was just extremely lazy on bp stages till the cake coins got added

[tardy fiber]

I see, i lack some BP as when its introduction, i just joined PoMa so they are some difficulty that i cannot clear plus the region unit roster is kinda bad that time

And also because i am scared of attempting csmm for months

There's some BP reward on it

[winged fossil]

79150 f2p gems right now. ||definitely expecting to lose a lot of gems in a few days though... just sorta crossing my fingers for a couple resets from now that i can get my target from unova banner early so i can save for datamine rather than having to go deep instantly||

coulda sworn i was gonna have more gems in the next couple resets... but think i prob ended up including the unoVA gems in my calc for planning for my target. oh well.

||even at 1.5%/unit im expecting a shaft, so might be a while till i get back to 80k+ depending on how the banner goes, especially considering nov 25 has a high likelyhood to take a pity cause NCerena rerun is most likely that day||

[sturdy hatch]

Good luck, well done saving enoguh for both the unova banner and NC Serena

[winged fossil]

yeah, im really happy to have enough for both +1 unit assuming 3 shafts in this quarter, if assuming ~+20k ish next month

having gotten to having 2+ pities on its own was a huge accomplishment for me

if i can dodge a shaft on either of those ill be sitting in a REALLY safe spot for december

(assuming nothing new drops for nov for me ofc)

saving just feels great cause i dont have to be scared of fav floods, since my list is pretty tight in terms of possible new favs. majority of my possible targets are already here, and im gonna be done my rerun list whichll make future saving even easier.

[rare swan]

we love to see it

I also agree that being able to guarantee any surprise pairs you want makes for a much more fun/relaxing game experience

[tardy fiber]

I can only guarantee 2

Only 6.1k gems left this datamine

[sturdy hatch]

2 is relatively good!

[versed flame]

woohoo back to three pities!!

in other news OG Dawn nuking on the new EBE is fun

[warm scarab]

Nice. Trying to stay strong with my 40k lol

[vernal glade]

Im still fighting to 170k. Must stay strong for datamine.

[rare swan]

the date now starts with a "2", it's getting closer

[vernal glade]

I can’t believe we’re already at the 20s.

[tardy fiber]

Yep still got unova VA rerun and ground/fighting eggmon event yet to happen...cannot believe its already close to datamine

[rustic heron]

||2 more days until the most peak banner ever||

[feral vale]

True, I got Volo to save for

[vernal glade]

I got a hisui Zoroark to save. That image is true.

[pure arrow]

I’m unsure if I even have an SS/NC Zinnia to save for but I do have a ||seasonal and an SC|| to nab in the next 6 months

[rare swan]

I think it's good to have a rerun you're waiting for, you have way more motivation to save

[pure arrow]

Yep, especially because:

1. The reruns are predictable and not too far apart
2. Oof, 0.5% odds or less for the unit I want the most

[feral vale]

Hoping a11 gets that non paid SC Diantha rerun

[pure arrow]

I’m guessing it’s going to be November actually

but who truly knows apart from DeNA?

[crisp oracle]

Coping for next month so my saving plans are nice and free

[rare swan]

prayer circle for a11's free SC Dia rerun, I love seeing savers get what they've saved for!

[crisp oracle]

Well I’m getting SS Hilda this month! Take the small W’s when you can!

[rare swan]

we love to see it

[feral vale]

Me with Zerena, was waiting for her for over a year

[broken mulch]

What if the banner is paid only

[tardy fiber]

Well we can save paid gems too

[feral vale]

Me at 18k paid gems………

I stopped paying for the bundle

[rare swan]

18k paids is a very good amount

[crisp oracle]

I still have 0 paid gems. And I will stand by my principle of not spending on video games

IDK virtual currency, whether a game or bitcoin never appealed to me

[feral vale]

Oh trust me, those other virtual currencies are a straight up sham

[rare swan]

and that's perfectly fine as long as you don't shame those who choose to spend

[tardy fiber]

Saving for new year selects, they are kinda pricy usually with 5k paid each

[crisp oracle]

At least the rate of $USD to PoMa Gems stays relatively constant unlike you-know-what

with a few price hikes

[crisp oracle]

they keep the game afloat and keep EOS away

I just keep chugging along

[rare swan]

we love keeping EOS away 😌

[unkempt vortex]

Keeping eos away means more suffering for everyone

[rare swan]

don't forget, you're here until EOS forever

[crisp oracle]

you're here forever... the words echo

[rare swan]

[tardy fiber]

Playable Arceus when? I dont think it will signify EoS... its a gen 4 pokemon that will probably be a stronger special damage dealer Silvally

[rare swan]

stupid pokemon. gacha game

anyway keep saving those gems!!!!

[tardy fiber]

Im saving it Tai, its itchy for a month plus already

Will continue to itch if November is still a skip month

[feral vale]

Imagine…. ||Volo and Arceus ||

[tardy fiber]

I can imagine that, he basically has hair in Arceus style

[feral vale]

Dude’s outfit is revolved around Arceus.

[tardy fiber]

But man, i kinda want Giratina origin too...but Arceus can explain his space time rift shenanigans

[feral vale]

Volo’s plot was to summon Arceus

So it makes an insane amount of sense

[crisp oracle]

||if we do get an arceus with Gladion's gimmick, but actually a quality unit, kiss my gems goodbye||

||nothing is keeping me away from that||

[weary spire]

Well, I feel like his plan was more about beating Arceus’ ass & overthrowing it than taking it as a partner, but you could probably argue he would hope to have them submit by force

[feral vale]

Eh, I wouldn’t say overthrow. I was pretty sure he just wanted to exploit it.

[weary spire]

I thought that was why he aligned with Giratina so well

[feral vale]

I believe Giratina was just drawn to his emotions.

[weary spire]

But either way, point is he would have a new universe created in his image & all that, I’m sure he could have Arceus be made to use its powers for him either way

[feral vale]

Volo had a distate for that world and he wanted to create a blank slate and start over.

[weary spire]

So he can partner with it either way

[weary spire]

Yep

& I believe Giratina wanted revenge

[feral vale]

Giratina and Volo were just at a spot where their interests aligned.

[weary spire]

Yeah

It’s just a small semantics thing anyway, “overthrowing it,” “making it submit,” etc… at the end of the day, he’d make Arceus’ power his own by potentially having it, so I could see a world in which he had it

Plus, could argue that Masters’ trend of giving charas the legend they never got to have, could give Volo Arceus in that timeline

I still think Volo & Giratina-Origin would sell & I would prob want that more personally, but who knows? Gotta be ready for anything. Hell, maybe he’ll even have both at some point

[broken mulch]

The real herald of EoS is swimsuit Cynthia lol

You know they in trouble if they roll her out

[weary spire]

Part of me hopes it never comes But they would continue to hint at it

[weary spire]

Also yeah, subjugate would def be the latter, so… would technically fit the PMEX trend to have him already own God this time But he’d have to have a change of heart fast, else he would just rewrite the world in an instant

[broken mulch]

The next arc being a race to be the first to sync pair with god would be a fun story

[weary spire]

That sounds like it would probably have every villain involved

[broken mulch]

Would also motivate non villain people to actively seek Arceus out too

Instead of just reacting

[weary spire]

To protect it from the villains, maybe? And Arceus just decides “I like X” and pairs with them, lol

Looking forward to MC & Arceus

[tardy fiber]

Normal type teamwork

Although i hope its MC Type:Null instead

[winged fossil]

Glad that I’ll be able to know my gem situation next reset that way I’ll be able to start my planning for November ahead of datamine.

[tardy fiber]

Oh UnovaVA next reset? nice i can 5* another non eggmon pair with the dupe badge

[vernal glade]

At least people will finally get ghetsis EX, and lot of gems from there as well.

[feral vale]

Please delete that image. Referencing banners in images is not allowed.

[spring lodge]

oh

[feral vale]

Check the rules of this channel in the pins.

[spring lodge]

Im referring to my gems aa

[feral vale]

You can send gem count through the Poryphone screen.

[spring lodge]

ah oki

-3505 gems : saving for future Wally (pls come home)

[feral vale]

Realized it’s been a while, why not show mine

[uneven pewter]

I mean ss ethan is honestly the only pair there i would pass on but you do you

[crisp oracle]

pushed him to the bottom because of saving considerations

I chose to go for SS Kris

[uneven pewter]

She and other supports are always good investments

[winged fossil]

I was tempted to go for sskris but skipped her in favor of ncblue when picking a support this anni. Felt blues kit did more for my box than kris and had no interest in celebi
Don’t have any regret with my decision cause blue is so nice qol for all my special dps that don’t one button max their stats

Even ones that one button max spatk but not crit I tend to consider him as a possible teammate for now that I have him. Little tempted to replace ghetsis with him on my go to Anni N team… def gonna happen if anni n gets strike role later on

Support favs are always something I look forward to seeing since I get use out of them almost everywhere

[pure arrow]

Every weather support is a top choice investment if your fave relies on weather (hyperbole)

That’s actually the reason I swung for SS Acerola

[crisp oracle]

There are a lot of special water types lol and she just fit right in

[pure arrow]

and uh
pity

I don’t regret it but still

[winged fossil]

I know sskris gives rain but I prioritize one button setup over her sadly sooo

[pure arrow]

just a warning to those who aren’t willing to have their gem stash bleed that much

[winged fossil]

If I have temptation next time she reruns I might consider but by then I suspect I’d have someone else for the rain support

[vestal leaf]

I always prioritize outfits over meta, and sskris outfit is one of PoMas bests

[winged fossil]

Since they’re not being as stingy with field effects anymore

[vestal leaf]

Always worth grabbing faves with great outfits over the latest meta slave uniy

[crisp grotto]

[winged fossil]

Hoping we get another buizel/floatzel at some point cause crasher wake doesn’t really interest me kitwise enough for such a cool mon

water mons i might consider off top of my head: vaporeon, buizel/floatzel, more totodile, more popplio, more palkia, walking wake, Cramorant

if cramorant drops i prob wont hesitate on the funny bird

[crisp grotto]

There's a lot of mons in the game that I really like and wish had better pairs Toxicroak for example, but I guess it's a plus that it's free

[winged fossil]

speaking of favs, im worried if one of my future favs ends up being spotlighted, tbh. cause on one hand, free fav. on other hand, a fav i have to wait possibly a year to get off a different banner.

cause i know from my 1/5 Dawn that it might take as long as a MF rerun to get them if im unlucky

[pure arrow]

Free if you have a limited unit

[junior trout]

please. i want nothing more

floatzel 🔛🔝

[winged fossil]

saving my stamina for this reset, only gonna be ~2hr of stamina short of full without being wasteful mostly cuz had to do dailies still. (saving the +200 stamina for like 1am redeem)

[tardy fiber]

Only left 4 pairs to max theme skills, i can already see the finish line while 5* non eggmon pairs progress still left 8 pairs, this unova VA rerun might make it 6

Gonna 5* some shiny eggmons when im done with the non eggmon pairs, well they are kinda special with most shiny variants locked to specific role

[hard wave]

I have 37 rn

[hard wave]

How many left for 5*?

[tardy fiber]

Which one? Non eggmon or theme?

[hard wave]

Theme

[tardy fiber]

8, might be 7 this reset

[hard wave]

26 non eggmons to 5*

[hard wave]

[tardy fiber]

Because dupe badge

Well another badge need to wait few more resets

[hard wave]

Oh I hv 39 atm, not sure who to 5*

Usually just wait until datamine to see who gets EX and upgrade them, but if I get to the point where I can upgrade all of them at once ill just do that

[tardy fiber]

I just 5* non eggmon pairs, they have better stats than eggmon and sometimes needed to clear certain challenges due to having themes

Sad that i missing Jessie and James, maybe kanto poison theme will be needed later

[hard wave]

I only 3* shiny eggmons and donate the rest

Tho im paired up w all besides cloyster, some shiny some not

[tardy fiber]

I paired with non shiny too but only as placeholders before i get the shiny versions

[hard wave]

Yeah I replace non shinies when I get the shiny

[tardy fiber]

Oh upcoming egg event have 3 shinies i didn't have, machop/diglett/sandshrew

Not sure who i will 5* first, maybe my shiny charizard and venusaur, kinda like them because i skipped sskantrio

I can start doing them as even if there's a new lodge, it will only be 1 pair a month. And new faves from banners are 5* so they dont use silver PUs

[hard wave]

I prioritize the units w EX, so I upgrade the EXable unit then the lodge unit when I get it

Candies r a problem tho wish I could exchange the 3* ones

[tardy fiber]

Yep sad that they stopped doing NPC pairs, i used to throw 3* candies on them...saves time for event farm, also is swimming with 3* candies

Oh gonna keep 4 tech and strike for Jessie and James if they ever rerun

[hard wave]

I still exchanged for the 3* support candy jic they let us exchange them

I just maxed norman, my last below 5/5 3*, so now I can start saving striker candies

Alr have 21 support and 25 tech I think

[tardy fiber]

Yep just allow 4* candy conversion is also already nice, as lodge and bp are base 4* pairs so i still haven't 5/5 most of em

[hard wave]

Yeah, I havent even 3/5d my N bcz ive only gotten 1 tech candy since I got him last month

Im now using my lodge stones to 5/5 since I have 70 certs so ill just build them up for now

[tardy fiber]

Oh i still use my lodge stones for certs, in case what Absol found out of level cap to 200 still using certs

[hard wave]

[tardy fiber]

I also have 70+ certs in the bag

Saving for future faves

[hard wave]

I have a rerun list so im saving it for them + future favs as well

[tardy fiber]

Im glad my rerun list is empty for now, but every datamine made me anxious now feeling unsure if my gems will be enough or not

[hard wave]

My rerun list is split in 2; half I want the other half im willing to replace if we get certain new units in the future

|| cblue/emma- a rock/poison striker
Ss may/glora- ceruledge and armarouge assuming they r both fire ||

[winged fossil]

hoping to see you guys in just under 2 hours with some good gem related news ... ||really hoping its not a shaft for my boy but im going in expecting pity for SSN considering i literally hit 2 MFs in like 9k gems this anni. would be pleasantly surprised if its anything but a pity for him||

[rare swan]

You got this it's why you saved!

[tardy fiber]

Goodluck its always nice to see people saving and being rewarded with their faves being released/rerun

[winged fossil]

went ahead and redeemed my 200stamina daily mission an hour early, that way i have the stamina for unoVA rerun for faster ghetsis upgrade. its atleast something for while im waiting for the reset

[tardy fiber]

Oh you missed his upgrade before?

[winged fossil]

yeah first run of unova came during my hiatus

hes the only VA upgrade im missing

[winged fossil]

Gem update.
||Two multis made 1/5 ssn. 12 pairs seen when saw his splash.||

Now I wait for datamine. Before I decide if I chase anything else there

This also means that I’m sitting on two pities still.

||on one hand I didn’t hit anyone else yet but on other hand I am EXTREMELY safe right now… question will be after mine is if I wanna invest possibly 30k for genesect and some n dupes possibly or not.||

[vernal glade]

Ready to wait for datamine.

[tardy fiber]

Same, waiting for datamine...i saw the daily login event for fall event will be done in 3 days, hope the datamine arrives around that time

Lack 1 to 5* my pair

[winged fossil]

Every free villain exd. Now I just need pb in couple days

(Screenshotted in his fadeaway cause almost forgot to screen)

[tardy fiber]

His PB is pretty nice, i like the glaciate mgr 9 and tm ramp up 1

[winged fossil]

yeah i hear its mostly self sufficiency, but thats enough for me to be looking forward to grabbing it

anything to make him less painful to use in gauntlet

[winged fossil]

Hopefully we get the mine on pomaday or the day before. Although I wouldn’t be surprised too much if it was the day afterwards instead

[hard wave]

I think it should be wednesday-friday

We dont know any content/gem count after 29th, and 28th/29th r the weekends

[tardy fiber]

Fall even login only last till Wednesday reset, hope datamine on Wednesday or Thursday

Oh but there's normal eggmon event on Friday

Oops fighting and ground

[sturdy flower]

we had eggmon event last time too

before datamine

[tardy fiber]

Oh so datamine can happen before eggmon event?

[pure arrow]

Someone dissuade me from ||pulling on the UnoVA triple banner, I already have 2 of the 3 units (Hilbert 3/5 and Hilda 1/5)|| and want to save for NY Lisia’s rerun in January

[upbeat lotus]

if you spend gems on that banner you have to 20/20 every eggmon you have

[crisp oracle]

Have you seen how clunky and hard SS N is fully utilize?

[pure arrow]

I use ZinniQuaza, I am no stranger to “clunky” lmao
But yeah SS N’s kit does not actually inspire me that much

[pure arrow]

Also there is no way in hell I am doing this

so the gem zen wins

[crisp oracle]

Zinnia being clunky, she is no SS N

one-two charging moves with a complex rotation with B Noble Roar

[pure arrow]

oh right he does have to use charging moves
don’t really like those

[crisp oracle]

also SS N = goodbye normal sync rotation

[pure arrow]

dang what were they cooking with his kit

[crisp oracle]

Freeze Shock has 300 BP. If he didn't have a complex rotation he would be incredibly unbalanced

but what is balance when we have NC Red?

[sturdy flower]

Regigigas:

[crisp oracle]

well the hp scaling was strange

[crisp grotto]

||I don't have SS N or SS Hilbert, but do have SS Hilda 5/5. I wanted Hilbert so I pulled on it, and in the first 2 multies got 3 more Hildas, 3 PUs the next multi was a dead multi. Don't do it!!||

[cunning swan]

so you're aiming for the other one? take it from someone who pulled on a joint CBlue + Redlax banner way back when and ended up with 5/5 Red but only 1/5 Blue

4.5% may seem huge but at the end of the day it's a 1 in 3 chance of getting the unit you want and you might end up with a featured unit handing you a

[strange trout]

You already have the 2 good units

The other is a meme

[broken mulch]

I know we’re dissuading people from pulling, but honestly SSN’s rotation is only complex on paper

[hard wave]

U have hilbert 3/5, hilda’s great even at 1/5, N’s kit is meh

No reason to pull when u have 2/3 of them and the 3rd one is mid

[unkempt vortex]

People over exaggerating how ssn works

[broken mulch]

Guess because the others are just spamming a button anything other than that is too complex lol

[vestal leaf]

SSN is one of my favourite units in the game

But if he's not fave, skip

Just like the other two

[cunning swan]

I ||enjoy using SS N|| but if a straightforward playstyle and rotation is what you're looking for, SS N isn't for you

[crisp grotto]

I enjoy him too, but because I like complex kits lol

[winged fossil]

i like him cause its one of my fav trainers and i kinda simp for piercing blows gameplay wise at times.
even though i planned to go for ||ss hilbert|| i have a decent chance of just skipping atm cause i ||got lucky on 2 multis for ssn|| and have a feeling nov/dec could be fav heavy with the ncerena rerun inevitability looming overhead

dunno if i wanna commit the possibly 30k for a non-top fav rn

basically just taking a forecast check from datamine when it comes and deciding what i do off that since i knocked off a rerun list unit already

i can secure her either way since ive got a high gemcount, thus emptying my list, but its just a question of is there new favs coming or something else i really want

cause my rerun list will be basically empty after her

[tardy fiber]

I kinda familiar with ssN gameplay because i already using ssethan tm > aeroblast > tm > aeroblast and scguzma sure hit > dynamic punch > sure hit > dynamic punch before ssN release

So im familiar on different button pressing, well its easier than sleep chaining

[winged fossil]

ss ethan i skip tm unless im about to sync or if its turn 1, just not efficient

hell i might start skipping turn 1 tm now too if i run him with like proton golbat or whatever for example

cause main reason for turn 1 tm is accuracy imo

[tardy fiber]

Also smun, and free move next and extra smun if you take the grid

Oh and fleet feet

[winged fossil]

1smun isnt enough to offset the tm turn if youre running good enough support

not sure if even 2smun is enough unless you need to save gauge

[tardy fiber]

Because i sync with support ex wits ssethan, so i like to use his tm before aeroblast as he will never sync anyway and the battle already over without him syncing

[winged fossil]

i use his nuke personally from first sync, since brainpower or whatever sync usually enough to nearly end the stage instantly for me xD

dont even have 3/5, since i just never felt a need to go beyond 2/5 on him. 2/5's already pretty busted

[tardy fiber]

Oh right i do similar gameplay with smliza, she is iron defense > tm > giga impact > protect > giga impact > iron defense > giga impact

So im familiar with ssN gameplay

[winged fossil]

yeah ive used some other units with odd orders of moves so ssn isnt too weird for me either. id take any excuse to use more N, Lillie, aand Serena anyways in most of my content.

[broken mulch]

Yeah once you max out special attack and crit I don’t bother pressing SS Ethan’s TM anymore

[tardy fiber]

Kinda thats why, sleep chaining is harder where you need to rotate to sleep mid/left/right and between using hypnosis and damage move, thats harder for me

Like lodge N, need more effort using him to rotate between hypnosis/calm mind/psychic

Kinda respect when i saw some people do solo content with him

Against multiple enemies

[upbeat lotus]

Dont look into the shop

[tardy fiber]

Have a clear goal in what you like, so if anything you didn't like appears it will be a safe skip month

[fallen path]

tbh the easiest way is to not think about the game if you get tempted by the shop

[tardy fiber]

The game is too easy to chase meta

[upbeat lotus]

Basically go touch grass

[tardy fiber]

I just do dailies and clearing contents in this month, i do have lodge gio to keep me occupied for few days... finally its datamine week, i can see the finish line

Maybe its ncserena

[tough oriole]

It’s a bit soon for an irida rerun

[hard wave]

Would be weird if we didnt get cserena next month tbh

[upbeat lotus]

They reran Johtrio before Zerena, nothing is impossible

[tough oriole]

November is CCalem, I’d assume December is Cerena.
2nd anni reran near end of Dec, so I’m assuming TRed and ACyn will rerun then

[tardy fiber]

Or they want to rerun leon instead if he becomes lodge guest, he will be on 25th November so the leon lodge will be on December.

[upbeat lotus]

And yeah CCalem rerun before Red and Cynthia too lol

Thats why you should focus on saving gems

Please spoiler pulling result here

[tardy fiber]

I hope next datamine has at least 2/3 pity of gems...thats my cutoff point

[crisp oracle]

The two tips that got me saving:

1. Punishment (Thanks to Gakon's suggestion: if I fall for temptation, I EX Cheren)
2. Don't go into the shop: use the top bar screen to get to the daily scout; with the 7/10 missions here, you don't even need to go into the shop anymore
3. Create a list of characters you want to pull and stick to it. If you spend more than twenty minutes trying to psych yourself up to pull a unit, you don't really want it

[tardy fiber]

Oh right, November gems usually dry isnt it? Is December gems good? I forgot about these 2 months

[crisp oracle]

ok, 3 tips

TL;DR, don't try to convince yourself into pulling a unit. What you pull is should be characters you want to play with. Decide what characters you like; then you can decide to pull without the temptation of seeing the kits.

[feral vale]

@wind nymph Make a list of characters you actually like. Then stick to that list and skip anyone else.

[crisp oracle]

[tough oriole]

And always try to imagine that your fave is coming next month, so you feel motivated to save

[feral vale]

I recommend reducing it.

[crisp oracle]

Don't make it too long. The longer it is, the more likely you are going to be in gem hell

Also, I place my gem count in my chat, and I proudly annouce it in #poma-lounge. The people in there now find it weird when I spend gems; indirectly keeping me accountable

it's weird but it works

Also, mute #gacha-and-flex

[upbeat lotus]

7 - 10 saving targets are considered enough

Altho for some people its too much lel

[feral vale]

I’ll give an example of my mega favs that have their own tier and I skip anyone else if I have to.

[crisp oracle]

That's a rerun tierlist. Do you have a tierlist of just characters?

[feral vale]

1. Ash
2. Leaf
3. Calem
4. Red
5. N

[crisp oracle]

I have only a rerun tierlist, but only because my character tierlist is so short

Diantha, Gloria, Irida, Hilda

[feral vale]

You don’t have favs that you’re thinking about new alts and stuff?

The list I just showed is if they get a new alt, I’m going for it.

Anyone else is lower priority.

[crisp oracle]

Once you finish your battles/dailies; get off the game. The more you linger on the game the more your mind flows toward pulling.

Distract yourself.

Find a few hobbies outside of PoMa.

[feral vale]

Touch grass. Do other stuff you like.

Our biggest tip is if you think about pulling, find a way to distract yourself from it. Because the worst decisions come when we veer off our saving path.

All we can do is just wait. And do some careful planning when datamine comes around if you have to make a choice.

All I am asking for is a full on skip month because I am sick of the anxiety from pulling.

If datamine is close, we always say to wait.

Calem will still be here when datamine comes around because of when he starts.

Oh btw, be careful cause this channel is not meant to ask who to pull.

Usually 19-20th in the month is when we say to abstain.

[crisp oracle]

Well, Calem is on the 25th. datamine comes usually between 22nd and 29th

+datamine

[jade lava]

Datamine usually happens at the end of each month between the 25th and 29th (PDT)
Check #datamines for raw dumps and #1012256199128915968 for recap and schedules.
Here is a history of previous datamine dates : https://tinyurl.com/pmexdataminehistory

[feral vale]

In fact, spoiler mentions of pulling in the first place.

[tardy fiber]

I understand that some people usually have long list like im one of em but unless you have been playing this game since year 2 or something and are able to buy paid gems, it will be hard to realistically get all of that long list of faves. Like i finally cleared my rerun list for around like close 2 years of gameplay and thats through purchasing fair select

[feral vale]

My list is kinda complicated since I’ve been playing since Day 1, so I’d rather not disclose it

[tardy fiber]

Oh and having around 1/4 of my faves being free pairs and general pool also helps

[feral vale]

Luckily, there’s only one person that I’d personally want if I chose, but that’s on my “Paid Select” list.

[crisp oracle]

I got to shorten my rerun list today

it's getting smaller

also Diantha (gardevoir) is on maybe only because I am coping she comes on a ticket

[tardy fiber]

8 legendary adventures + 2 team up event + 7 bp master pairs + 2 general pool

[tardy fiber]

I can see you clearing it with ease, good luck although scdiantha might be hard if she is in multiple featured banner but nothing that 36.6k gems cannot fix

[crisp oracle]

which is why i really need more than two pities

I got very lucky ||UnoVA banner treated me so well today||

||I only had to drop 9K gems||

[tardy fiber]

Who knows we might get free diantha on run up to half anniv, iirc the free champion ticket last year is given around that time

[crisp oracle]

please

I'm coping with only SS Diantha

[tardy fiber]

Anabel might also follow that route and she's a base pair not like sygna suit or others that might be harder to be given for free by DeNa...they even gave free Alder before this

Base pair can be lodge guest

[feral vale]

Idk whether more PF Lodge pairs would be good or bad….especially cause of the current rates

[crisp oracle]

I'm hoping SC Diantha rerun comes with Diantha lodge so I can eventually get knight diantha lodge photo

[tardy fiber]

We might be getting one next month as iirc its already 2 consecutive month of f2p/general pool pairs with leaf and then giovanni

Time for premium lodge guest

28 feb iirc

[upbeat lotus]

+anni

[jade lava]

Poma's 4.5 Year Anniversary events happen <t:1709100000:R>, <t:1709100000:f>
Poma's 5th Anniversary events start <t:1724824800:R>, <t:1724824800>

[tardy fiber]

There's 2.5...annimay, anniskyla, anniraihan are 2.5 pairs iirc, 3.5 are galar birbs

[upbeat lotus]

Half anni has always been a thing since launch

[tardy fiber]

Did we have anything for 1.5? I haven't join poma during that time

[upbeat lotus]

Leon and Marnie introduction

And Diantha + CIris too if you count the entire March celebration

[tardy fiber]

Oh they are 1.5, i thought they are for 2nd anni

Oh wait 2nd anni is annisteven

My bad

So
1 - sskantrio
1.5 - leon, marnie
2 - annisteven, anniN, annilillie
2.5 - annimay, anniskyla, anniraihan
3 - ash, ssacynthia, sstred
3.5 - nchop, ncbede, ncmarnie
4 - ncblue, ncred, ncleaf
4.5 -

Terrastalize pairs

[tough oriole]

0.5 was SS Red, 1 was SS Blue and Leaf (and the launch of EX, including EX SS Red)

[vernal glade]

They were also for the Kanto VA if I remember correctly

[hard wave]

I mean cuz serena and calem r a duo

Like they reran maxie right after archie

[tough oriole]

No

Kanto VA was slightly after 2nd anni (and was promoted alongside it)

[vernal glade]

Ah.

[winged fossil]

barring hoenn this ebe rerun thing is pretty chill

Liking the source of gems and generally something different to do for a few days

[broken mulch]

I’m dreading the Unova one lol

[vernal glade]

I mean I’ll take the gems.

[winged fossil]

Unova should not be too terrible, barring needing to offregion terrain. Physical unova is pretty accessible

[vernal glade]

I’m ready for more saving next year. Almost the end of the year.

[versed flame]

I'm liking that these are either f2p friendly or off region brute forceable

after that brock ebe....

[dawn surge]

I don't have many good bug or electric type sync pairs. So should I give VA Hilbert some thought?

[upbeat lotus]

this isnt a meta discussion thread

#916852389347196958 is the right place

[dawn surge]

I see

Thanks

[tardy fiber]

Is this ebe rerun event is the same with past ebe but different region getting boosted? I forgot if i ever fight Gio EBE that boosted sinnoh pairs

[rare swan]

yes

[winged fossil]

Yep

The gio ebe was kanto va ebe

[tardy fiber]

Wow, no wonder it feels weird

[rare swan]

probably a better topic for the EBE thread

resource wise though, it's a massive bummer they're only 1 part

300 gems instead of 600

[tardy fiber]

Cannot wait to see next datamine, i wonder if the skill gear event will be monthly...well to replace blissful bonanza

[rare swan]

RIP Blissful Bonanza fr

[tardy fiber]

We still lose gems from missing stamina rally though

[rare swan]

yeah the fact that gems have been completely stripped from all retweet rallies sucks so much

i cannot read yes that also sucks

[winged fossil]

23rd support ex today. Just figured I’d finally count how many supports I’m at lol

[crisp oracle]

Blissey had enough of being a damage sponge and just left

[tardy fiber]

Because i calculated like skill gear event can replace blissful bonanza as it also gives 100 gems daily, then i remembered about stamina rally existence with the 500 gems lock behind 2500 stamina

Although that event is kinda hateful as i saw many people missing just shy of 2500 after the event expires...but 500+ gems is kinda big amount

[winged fossil]

Stamina rally was also a training area boost and an influx of scout tickets

[lament arch]

Blissey is passive aggressive

?

[tardy fiber]

I forgot about that too

[winged fossil]

Like fr the scout tickets were my number one reason for looking forward to those.

[tardy fiber]

Well at least i just realised that this unova VA rerun shop start to sell 5 role drinks instead of the old 3 role drinks

[winged fossil]

Training area boost was nice while it mattered too

Oh yeah I noticed that too although I’ll be stamina saving for the next reset probs cause iirc next reset should be ghetsis pb event

[tardy fiber]

Really? Just in time, ive done exchanging most items that i wanted other than codexes

[sturdy flower]

right, we are getting a Calem dupe now

the X Speed Pep Rally 1 really gives him some more utility

he's even better at begin a gauge battery

and satisfied snarl 9 is nice for tornadus

[tough oriole]

[rare swan]

Love these free dupes even if they're slow

(Still think they should have just been added to the ticket pool but at least this is something)

[tough oriole]

Tai what move level is your calem rn?

[tardy fiber]

Cannot wait to 3/5 them all what dupe we will get in this poma day?

[tough oriole]

^

[rare swan]

3/5

[tardy fiber]

Oh not acerola?

[rare swan]

My patience has been rewarded

[tough oriole]

Wait actually

[rare swan]

And yeah isn't it Acerola we are getting?

Calem would be next

[tough oriole]

Yeah it is acerola, mb

[rare swan]

[tough oriole]

Fake fan, even the Johto stan has 5/5 Calem

[tardy fiber]

Still no EX instead we get EX on that lousy bannette

I wonder if Cheren lodge will be next, he is the only one left out of 5* story pairs that not yet becomes a lodge guest

Lodge cheren lickilicky

[rare swan]

He's a Calem stan, I have a whole region to manage!

[tough oriole]

But you also have the boomer income

[tardy fiber]

Hope no support fave next month, if there's none i can 3/5 Dana and make Tai proud

[tough oriole]

:danaemotehere: :nitanod: :morganemotehere:

[rare swan]

Whaling on a free character

[tardy fiber]

I whale on bp master pairs, they are free but truthfully cannot 3/5 both of the new pairs in a year duration

[rare swan]

Oh thank you for reminding me, I have another MBP ticket

Okay RSS

Which Chatelaine do I 4/5

🧊

[tough oriole]

Nita and Evelyn have higher base power moves

[hard wave]

Isnt it acerola

[rare swan]

Ye I'm leaning towards one of them

Alternatively, hoard tix for Morgan next year

Ughhhh I'm never gunna 5/5 these girlies!!!

[tardy fiber]

Save it for morgan

[hard wave]

They do give us a free ticket for anni tho

[tardy fiber]

Use that for normal teamwork MC Type Null

[rare swan]

I should hoard for Morgan, it's true

I like being able to 3/5 them on release

[hard wave]

I just got them all to 1/5 personally im at 1050 for my new round iirc

[feral vale]

……..gawd, y’all are fake Calem fans

[tardy fiber]

9270 bp now

[rare swan]

My 5/5 NC Calem says otherwise

[feral vale]

I still candied my Calem

[hard wave]

2/3 Calems EX, 1/5 meowstic, 3/5 greninja, 5/5 fennekin

[tardy fiber]

I still haven't have any fave Calem yet, it looks grim as Kalos already released all of their legendary and mythical...just gonna hope for UB or Paradox calem in the future

[winged fossil]

I instantly 5/5d LCalem cause of Fennekin personally. I mostly 5/5 fav lodge pairs at this point although uhhh
Dena where 4star tech reeee

LN still 2:5 …

[hard wave]

We get one this reset luckily

Ive started trying to 5/5 them thru lodge stones, did blue and raihan so far

Strikers ive been able to do thru candies

[cunning swan]

hahaha remember when we were complaining about the lack of 4 star support candies instead

[hard wave]

I dont have lodge adaman, gloria, or steven as well as bugscy tina or team rocket

Would be nice if we could exchange the 3* ones, 2 or 3 for 1 would be nice

More would only give me like 4-5 candies

[tardy fiber]

I got enough move candies if i only need to 3/5 the 4* pairs event without using lodge stones well at least there's no rush till they got 5/5 grids or something....but yeap my 3* candy amounts are rising although i do save some for Jessie James copium rerun

[winged fossil]

Done the ebe set man unova was got scared that I’d have to ex skyla for it but found a team that lucked out

Glad to have all the gems from it done

Also halfway to ghetsis boost

[tardy fiber]

Yep that EBE was harsh, glad im done with it

[vernal glade]

Agreed, took me a few tries.

[gloomy holly]

||Well, I failed to get Redlax, time to zen once again I guess||

[vestal leaf]

||Oof, did you not have pity?||

[gloomy holly]

||None||

[vestal leaf]

||Hope you didn't go too deep||

[crisp oracle]

I'd wait until you have a perfect pity before pulling TBH. That way, you don't get distracted and accidentally funnel gems into another banner.

Also datamine is likely coming sooner than later.

Still I don't think you should pull without a pity especially since you won't have phone access after Friday

[feral vale]

Calem will still be there for a month, I see no problem in waiting.

[vernal glade]

Exactly.