Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)

[tardy fiber]

Its 4k+

[winged fossil]

im pretty sure the spirits are purely there for the newbies tbh

cause anyone whos been around for more than a couple months or so prob has excess

[tardy fiber]

For them to EX their new Victrier

Thats why i less mad about cake coins, its something well better than champ spirits

[winged fossil]

yeah, atleast it shaves off 5 days of that what, 100 day timer for all roles

[tardy fiber]

Well gems are the best but if they dont want to give it, what to do?

[winged fossil]

maybe bit less if you put daily tix to each role split

i actually wonder how many days itd take to get all roles cakes if you split the daily tix around

rather than focus to speed up one role

[tardy fiber]

I just use daily tix to add those cake coin that i got extras from getting pokefair faves

Thanks to that i can form 2 cakes this month

[winged fossil]

i havent spent my daily tix still, im waiting to have a full cake including it before even considering anything, although like 90% chance support unless CSerena gets something like strike

if CSerena turns aoe im dumping it on her

[tardy fiber]

Well if cserena cake roll happens it will be on 25th November... perhaps you can already make 1 cake for each role that time

[winged fossil]

hoping anni N gets field so i dont need to max fire just to apply sun for him on my team

cause i do gordie ghetsis anni n atm for his team

that or give him strike for aoe and more offense stats

[tardy fiber]

Or support for more blue flare damage

[winged fossil]

anni n would benefit from anything but Sprint imo

dont think hed get as much use out of sprint

[lost bobcat]

Well, if you quadqq is an extra guaranteed sync before the opponent

Tech have a way larger benefit

Mainly the older units

[winged fossil]

it is without sprint, and with sprint or adrenaline you dont need quad queue. -3 accel isnt enough to 3sync pre enemy sync, would need like... -3 + 2 sprints on average to do triple sync afaik... so i kinda value sprint the least unless its on a support or field

i think its something like 75 days to get one of every roll cake if you split the daily tix...? if i didnt mess up my math. while its like 50 if you full focus one role? ...really dunno if i did that math correctly. excluding any gifts or event rewards of any kind, just bp + daily

[lost bobcat]

Idk if you included the tickets
You can trade at least those for what you want boost

[winged fossil]

yeah thats including tickets

excluding them would be 100 days

[lost bobcat]

I think I'm good being about half of everything for just the first month

[winged fossil]

im on my 7th set right now coming up, with 36 tix in inventory

tbf i didnt touch any of the PF banners that had the cake gifts cause the only one that was fav woulda caused me problems for my current rerun list and wasnt a trainer fav

ill be peaking somewhere around 82k before ||SS N probably takes a pity from me, since my lucks been too good lately||

being at an estimate of like 50k including a possible pity this month is a good place for me, in terms of going into november with at a minimal.

if i can avoid the shaft then ill be even better off for newyear timeframe than im expecting, but im expecting it to shaft me cause ive gone too many banners without a pity being used up...

[lost bobcat]

I'm at 37 cake tickets, i don't think I missed any
But one every day, 30 days, trade 5 per coin it's 6 extra cake coin per month
In the end in 3 months we have a full set of cake rolls plus (almost) one extra cake of our choice

Slowly those will pile up

[winged fossil]

wait youre at 37? huh, i mightve missed a day if so

[vernal glade]

I’m at 38. Not exchanging them until the time is right.

[winged fossil]

Dang so I missed two days somehow

I have no clue how I even missed a couple days lol

Eh rip like 160ish gems I guess from my possible total

Not gonna beat myself up over it when it’s only like 80 daily gems for most part

[lost bobcat]

Ye no worries for few clears

[tardy fiber]

I cannot join the conversation because i already exchanged my tickets to cake coins

[winged fossil]

I’m still keeping up on bp dailies so

[tardy fiber]

Talking about BP, im at 7390...dupe for Dana soon

[vernal glade]

I’m around 8k, most likely getting my last rainbow ticket this year.

[tardy fiber]

So around 3k BP each month, i need to save 1 rainbow ticket before anniversary

So i guess i need to dupe 1 using candy so that i can 3/5 both Dana and Registeel before anni

[lost bobcat]

We get 2 new 5* and one free ticket
Always keep 1, and maybe 2 for extra safety just in case dena pushes to 3 new units

I missed some days, but got everyone at 1/5, mesprit 2/5. 1 extra ticket and i'm also at ~8k score

I was saving to ex those BP unit, but dena didn't unlock them so ended up wasting everything in Pin and skill gears

[tardy fiber]

Im still sending feedback for DeNa to EX them and Oak

Like cmon, the 4* BP pairs got EX

And 5* pairs are harder to get than them

Im hopium that there will be EX once all chatelaines are released

[winged fossil]

im at 8,890 Round 2, i really have been lazy on the BP end of things till the roll cake coins got added.

[lost bobcat]

With EX outfits plz

[winged fossil]

i doubt theres many other 2nd anni players as far behind as me

aside from those who just didnt play much in general ofc

[lost bobcat]

It's not hard to Ctrl+I the color palette

[winged fossil]

CTRL+I?

[lost bobcat]

It invert any color

In paint photoshop or whatever

[winged fossil]

apparently CTRL+I does a whole lot of NOTHING in gimp

[lost bobcat]

Gimp built different

[winged fossil]

tonight i get my 19th coin due to bp

4 resets till the full candy since Villa looks like earliest source of coin # 20

think ima do lodge calem instead of lodge gio atm, tend to skip some days for lodge so might as well guarantee i get fennekin in time for HS

[tardy fiber]

Lodge gio doesn't have many nice topics so its rough, i only managed to get mine to friendship level 31

[lost bobcat]

Just a lot of friends
But 31 it's not that bad

[tardy fiber]

Yep, i got 2 days that he left before gifts

[winged fossil]

decided to go ahead and update my nickname here with the amount ill be expecting to reach before its time to briefly do stuff

just want next month to be a skippable costume event so i dont have to fear anything else out of left field before the next MF season

[tardy fiber]

I hope next month is skippable too, usually its SC right next month? Oh only the known case is pokewar

[winged fossil]

cause if any new favs come before then idk what im gonna do in dec/jan

[vernal glade]

I want next month skippable as well, I’m joining the November skip group.

[lost bobcat]

Waitin for december mfairs

[vernal glade]

Yes.

But there’s a chance I’ll skip December also.

[lost bobcat]

Curious if they stop at 2
If they do i'm fine
If they start a cycle of 3 mf eveery 3 months I'm doomed

[hard wave]

I would like both to be a skip

[tardy fiber]

I wonder if December MF will only be 1 because Volo, as a new character pair and not NC, it might be only 1 MF pair just like zerena and lussamine during their event , oh ssrcynthia too

He will be like Leon

[vernal glade]

But it will be a skip for me.

[tardy fiber]

Hope they reduce it to two

[winged fossil]

if its a single MF its more likely duo like adaman+irida, i dont see them doing a single anymore

[tardy fiber]

Two pairs not 2 months

[lost bobcat]

They can't release NC forrver
Dena: here the neo neo champions

[tardy fiber]

Well kinda weird if only release pearl clan leader and not include diamond clan

[lost bobcat]

Its already 2
Pattern were 3 2 3 2 3 since last anni

[tardy fiber]

Thats why adaman and irida release together

[winged fossil]

as much as volo is a neat character, i really just dont see them doing a single. more likely we see him + some other random Hisui char tagging along

[tardy fiber]

Worried about Unova NC as they have 4 protags

[tardy fiber]

Yep 1 MF with a couple of PF

[winged fossil]

im either betting Volo+random hisui or the SV box legends this winter.

if its not a NC

[tardy fiber]

Just like ssrcynthia, she released with Lucas a PF

[vernal glade]

This right here, is what I’m worried also.

[winged fossil]

koraidon and miraidon are inevitable, its a matter of when and if theyre MF or PF

[tardy fiber]

If DeNa is kind, it will just be NC Nate and NC Rosa because hilbert hilda already have SS...but they are not kind

[winged fossil]

knowing my luck, dena will randomly be like "here's NC N even though he already had a MF"

[tardy fiber]

Inb4 its NC Nate, NC Rosa, NC Iris

[winged fossil]

cause serenas proof they arent afraid to put multiple MFs to the same trainer

[tardy fiber]

Cynthia and Red too

[vernal glade]

That’s why I’m preparing for him.

[tardy fiber]

Hoping that now Hisui characters increased, there will be higher chance for hisui pokemons to interact with other characters, who knows maybe someone will get Hisuian Zoroark

Also them showing that hisui pokemons can appear in rift like samurott

[winged fossil]

if they do a volo in a multiple MF, btw, my guess is someone gets arceus

[vernal glade]

I know one will come, just like what happened last year when Unova version came.

[winged fossil]

[lost bobcat]

Nate is kinda long forgotten and none cares lmao
The protags got enough alts
Garal NC were the best imo bcs they took the rivals
Gloria still has few more (Alt) to go through
Victor is a joke

[tardy fiber]

They released Palmer with normal zone in preparation for Arceus

[vernal glade]

So until then, I’m on saving mode.

[lost bobcat]

If they have to use rivals we could expect NC Hugh Bianca or Calem

[vernal glade]

If Unova just a rival NC, that’s an easy skip.

[lost bobcat]

Classic bianca

Yep

[ashen thunder]

It's gonna be NC N, NC rosa, NC Hilbert

Other unova choices are invalid

[lost bobcat]

How about N

[winged fossil]

if its nc n its almost guaranteed -36.6k gem from me

[vernal glade]

N with a shiny legendary.

[ashen thunder]

NC N with white kyurem

[winged fossil]

[ashen thunder]

Ez

[lost bobcat]

No just a white kyurem

[vernal glade]

Ah right.

[lost bobcat]

Btw hope for once I could skip mfairs

[ashen thunder]

I skipped MF batch only once
All other times I atleast pulled 1 unit

[lost bobcat]

Its my objective since I'm getting pfair and seasonal on select scouts
But anni left me a little disappointed

[vernal glade]

And here’s hoping the last remaining months of this year is a skip.

[ashen thunder]

This month is already ez skip

Only potential banner I am rolling is fire HS if it has ssmay since I want to 5/5 her

Oh yea also Xmas if they release Flannery alt

Coz they seem to release alts for hoenn chars that don't have alts this year

[tardy fiber]

I skipped leonzard, nccalem, ncserena, adaman, irida, ssacynthia, ash, sstred...hope i can skip more in the future that are not faves

[rare swan]

I haven't pulled on a single Anni bird this year and I have no regrets

[oak crest]

Tbh it's easier to skip units nowadays since we have a much bigger roster than back when one just started playing this game

[lost bobcat]

Genpool being good it's all

Early there were no grids, no ls all you had as decent were Phoebe and Olivia

[crisp grotto]

lol the strat in coop was to buff Pheobe and then switch to Olivia

To transfer stats. Crazy times

[lost bobcat]

Actual strats in coop

[vestal leaf]

Phoebe / Olivia / Brendan

[crisp grotto]

Oh yeah Brendan

[vestal leaf]

And the "buffed" Karen

[crisp grotto]

Blue as well once he was out

[vestal leaf]

Remember when Karen had dire hit ?

I remember

[crisp grotto]

Yes

[lost bobcat]

Brendan was cringe af
Stuck with treeko and without ls, no dauntless, so his dmg fell quickly
Also enemy sync moves were removing all your buffs including crit so it was generally trash

[vestal leaf]

He did more than Olivia tho

And treecko had great stats

He was nowhere bad

He was just less consistent than Olivia but also didn't die from the opponent's sync

[lost bobcat]

Olivia was the monster bcs of phoebe

And bcs raw stats

Then ssred came out

[vestal leaf]

I mean

[crisp grotto]

This is quite impressive considering she's a launch unit

[ashen thunder]

Brendan still outdpsed Olivia for first 2 leaf storms even without spl buffer

[vestal leaf]

^

He was almost on par but didn't have to worry about special stages

[ashen thunder]

You can completely run Brendan,Phoebe, rosa and it'll destroy stage faster than Olivia

[vestal leaf]

Ye

[crisp grotto]

True true, I remember everyone wanting Brendan real bad

[vestal leaf]

Well Brendan came out in late October, not much later

[lost bobcat]

Eveeyone was running phoebe olivia for a reasion anyway

[crisp grotto]

oh ngl I thought Brendan was launch too it's a bit of a blur

[vestal leaf]

Olivia was launch

[ashen thunder]

Well Olivia vs Brendan back then is more like NCred vs ash we are having these days

[vestal leaf]

^

Indeed

[crisp grotto]

Yep

[lost bobcat]

He was at launch

[crisp grotto]

Yeah Brendan was a launch unit

[ashen thunder]

Only thing everyone agreed upon was Karen was mid and Kris suk

[vestal leaf]

Uh

[ashen thunder]

[vestal leaf]

release 30/10/2019

[lost bobcat]

I think you missed few months of pain lmao

[vestal leaf]

No no

[neon saddle]

there was a really interesting solo co-op EX Skyla VH (rock gear stage) strategy using Phoebe, Rosa, and Marlon

[lost bobcat]

No he was on launch

[crisp grotto]

Yeah brendan was definitely launch. I remember people trying to evolve their treeckos

[ashen thunder]

Launch was Brendan, olivia, Phoebe, Karen
First gacha unit was blue followed by Hilbert

[vestal leaf]

Mhhh true

30/10 had his spotlight

And grovyle Evo unlock

[crisp grotto]

Ah that sounds right, Olivia had a spotlight like that too iirc

[vestal leaf]

Sceptilr and grovyle

https://pokemonmasters-game.com/en-US/announcements/Update_M3_1W_2

[ashen thunder]

Did we even have sceptile for half anni

[vestal leaf]

Yea

30/10

[ashen thunder]

Oh it's October itself huh

Wait
Then why was Olivia considered better

[lost bobcat]

Ye, then you may have started later ye
He was syuck with treeko for a while early
Everyone angry ofc
He's the unit that recieved most updates

[crisp grotto]

I'm not sure tbh, maybe because of bullet seed?

[lost bobcat]

And finally Mega

[vestal leaf]

I started on day one

I just prefer not to remember

When Poma was garbage

[ashen thunder]

Peak day 1 gameplay is when opponent sync has buffwipe

[lost bobcat]

The launch trailer was cool

[ashen thunder]

[crisp grotto]

I whole heartedly believe the mewtwo event culled 25% of the playerbase

[vestal leaf]

I mean sync wipe was interesting

Impervious was #1 best skill to have

[ashen thunder]

Wasn't Hilbert considered meh on release even with impervious

[vestal leaf]

Nah he was good

[lost bobcat]

Basically leaf

[crisp grotto]

I remember him being good

[vestal leaf]

He had OSHA for a while

[ashen thunder]

Everyone was like Phoebe better

[vestal leaf]

Yeah because Omni crit buffer

[lost bobcat]

Look a support that raise crit by 3

[vestal leaf]

Hilbert had only speed and atk

[ashen thunder]

But all 3 gacha 5* buff crit

[crisp grotto]

Yeah

[ashen thunder]

[vestal leaf]

Yeah but you'd get crit unbuffed by opp sync

[ashen thunder]

Oh yea buffwipe

[vestal leaf]

So rebuffing was important

[neon saddle]

phone/battery burning event

there was a funny auto-strat for it iirc

low-level marshall, xatu, and uh Kris or Kahili or Karen or something. to solo-auto farm the stage

[crisp grotto]

Yeah I remember something like that, Will was actually relevant for a bit

[neon saddle]

Yeah, Impervious + Stored Power for level-up item farming, I think

he soloes Regirock nowadays I hear

[ashen thunder]

Even without impervious factored, will was the best dps if you didn't have any 5*s

He still needed 5* supports tho

[vestal leaf]

Yeah he was great because his base kit was good enough

[neon saddle]

Roxanne and MC/Torchic were popular SpAtt supports iirc. Didn't have better 5* supports until...Sabrina?

[vestal leaf]

Torchic came a bit later

November 6

[neon saddle]

oh wow, good memory

[ashen thunder]

Sabrina was right around SSred release

[vestal leaf]

After Karen's fix Karen + torchic was pretty good

Sabrina was after ssred iirc

2-3 weeks after

Red ran with SS Elesa and SS grims

[neon saddle]

poor Steven. released as shiny new Impervious unit, but right after they removed enemy syncs clearing your buffs

[vestal leaf]

Steven was still fine because DPS tank hybrids were huge

And his 1-2/5 were amazing

[ashen thunder]

He was also like best soloer for 1.5k CS stages due to aggravation iron head

Man remained as one of best PFs till they increased content power level

[junior trout]

richu about to role ex nc calem:

[vestal leaf]

Hey I'd consider it for og Dawn, sabrina, Lyra, hop, NC Bede or steelix

[broken mulch]

If they gave SSAynthia Tech EXR you betcha I’m feeding her the cake lol

[vestal leaf]

I doubt I'd do that one tbh

Her sync ain't anything special

[ashen thunder]

1 minute faster LG solos

[grim plover]

actually that would make her way more tanky

[heady ice]

I'm trying to fight my urge to pull. Someone tell me why I shouldn't pull for Rei or Akari with their awesome kits....

[timber wren]

do you like them as characters?

ive pulled for character/pokemon that i didnt really like before purely bc of their kits and in general i just avoid using them over ones i like more

ymmv of course

[feral vale]

If you’re just tempted by kits, try to spend as less time in the game as possible.

[upbeat lotus]

if you pull them, you have to EX Cheren

[ashen thunder]

What if they already have ex cheren

[strange trout]

At that point they are beyond saving

[dry cargo]

Does guaranteed thronton/magnezone (4.5k paid) worth the pull??

[lost bobcat]

It's 4.5k?

[dry cargo]

I assume s

[lost bobcat]

Probably is 7.5 then

[dry cargo]

Ah

[lost bobcat]

If you are a fan of him and got enough, why not

[timber wren]

it is 7.5k

[lost bobcat]

Variety banner have bad rates

So if you want and can afford 7.5k paid is way better than a full pity
Still a lot expensive imo but better than seasonals

[ashen thunder]

I thought rate up is still 2% in variety

[lost bobcat]

The only one I got is BallGuy

[ashen thunder]

Is it less than 2%?

[cunning swan]

Should be 2% for a single featured

[ashen thunder]

Yea
So bad rates is misleading term

Real bad rates is MF units

[dry cargo]

Not for 7.5k

[lost bobcat]

2% but 7% 5*

[ashen thunder]

Other 5* rate doesn't mean shit

You aren't rolling for em in first place

All that matters is rate up

[dry cargo]

Gonna wait for ash & red/pika.

But akari/rei also tempting…

[ashen thunder]

If you are waiting for rats, just wait for em

Can always avoid temptation after looking at your gem count

[dry cargo]

Hmm.. any ideas when they come back? I’m new here. Also been considering MF Selena or MF Caleb (shiny greninja looks dope)

[ashen thunder]

Ash isn't rerunning probably

[dry cargo]

Whats the MF for hoenn btw?

[lost bobcat]

Well it does, 7% means easier dead pulls

[ashen thunder]

Coz collab units don't rerun

Other MFs take like 1-1.5 years usually

To rerun

[dry cargo]

At all?? Damn…. Gib us new players Ash/pika 😭

[cunning swan]

Anni steven, maxie, archie

[ashen thunder]

They didn't rerun Jessie and James event

When Ash was released

[dry cargo]

Oh

[ashen thunder]

So even if anime collab happens again

Chances of ash banner is low

[dry cargo]

😱 theres jessie and james!?

Sad

[ashen thunder]

Try to make a list for what units you want to roll

And then cut your less favs and less intersting stuff

Keep your rerun targets to 5 or less

You can use tiermaker to make the list

[cunning swan]

Godspeed to everyone waiting for that mythical Ash rerun

My best wishes to you

[dry cargo]

Need OP ones for CSMM
Kanto/Johto/Hoenn pairs would be great.
Kanto incl. the original anime

[ashen thunder]

You can clear CSMM with free legendaries already

[cunning swan]

You don't need "OP" units for CSMM. Even the hardest CS can be cleared with f2p and year 0 units

All depends on gameplay and parameters

[dry cargo]

Yeah.. my line up is pretty tight atm. Just played right before NC Kantrio

[cunning swan]

Is it much easier to clear with the newest units in the meta? Sure. But in general CSMM isn't very difficult

[ashen thunder]

Don't roll for meta

The game difficulty is low as hell

[lost bobcat]

I stalled for months and worked perfectly

[dry cargo]

Even at 12.5k reward? How?

[ashen thunder]

People use 3* units to clear CSMM

It's just investment race

[cunning swan]

As long as you know how to handle the 2.5k parameters and teambuild properly

[dry cargo]

Yeah.. i dont have much resources atm. Got stretched pretty thin haha

[ashen thunder]

That's why you plan resources

Even if you roll "meta" styff

[cunning swan]

#1011675077764456519 i recommend checking this out for f2p CSMM clears

[ashen thunder]

Chances are you won't have sync orbs rn

To invest on em

[dry cargo]

Yep. And candies 🤣

[dry cargo]

I’ll check it out. Thank you!!

[heady ice]

with these particular two, my personal preference is: kit > pokemon > character

just torn b/c they'll be leaving before the triple unova banner and nov datamine

and field/sprint masterfairs are probably going to come sooner than later (although their kits can pass for masterfair-ish)

[timber wren]

theyre both very good but we get broken new units every single month

and if you plan to sink a bunch into the unova triple banner it might leave you pretty dry for next month but ultimately its your decision

[feral vale]

Please note this thread is not about asking who to pull, especially if you’re only wanting meta. This thread encourages saving and helps others from being tempted or feeling FOMO. If you are wondering about pulling in general, that is more suited for #poma-questions and if you need help with the roster you have for CS, ask in #1009554906568462476

[maiden kayak]

EX hapu

[grand bramble]

Guyz

I just realised something
This channel was created 1 year ago
I thought I been following this thread for 2 years?

[rare swan]

There used to be a different thread called Gem Zen

You might be thinking of that

[grand bramble]

Oh really??
That explains it then

[crisp oracle]

||well I made it out of the birds banners alive||

I feel proud of myself

anyways, I should hit three pities by the end of the week

[hard wave]

they dont leave this reset tho

[timber wren]

this is the third iteration actually

[grand bramble]

What? The 3rd one?

So... 2 years ago when I first came to gem ZEN was the second one right?

I don't know the existence of the first one

[timber wren]

it was originally a thread in pm-general, then remade into another thread under the help and tips channel, then this third version as a post in the help and resources forum when we switched to forums

the original post was started a bit before 2nd anni iirc

[crisp oracle]

this is a goated channel

thank goodness for its existence

without it i would be very broke

[grand bramble]

Yes... It is...

Aqua brought me here... without it I won't be achieved my goal last year

[grand bramble]

Yes it is.... I first joined back in 30 September 2021

I can't believe I never ask this when I came here

How do you first came up with this thread... yep

I never said this LOL

I don't think other discord channel have this kind of thread...

[rare swan]

We are very glad you like it

This was my main channel before I became staff, so I'm v fond

[crisp oracle]

i think your 200K gems shows how much this channel helped you

[timber wren]

this was also where i got very involved in the server so it’ll always have a special place in my heart

[rare swan]

[crisp oracle]

Pocecord got me saving to pity. This channel got me saving to three pities

unbelievable how saving actually made me better at the game by forcing me to utilize every corner of my roster

[tough oriole]

Using units like Bugsy with F2P supports for 2.5k MM really helps you see that you don’t need anyone

[rare swan]

This is a great point that I think gets forgotten

I love how much I've learned about the free/gen pool pairs through needing to use them for a lot of premium challenges like EBEs

(Shout out to the QUEEN of Galar EBEs, Bea)

[crisp oracle]

there are two queens of Galar EBEs

Bea and Sonia

without them I was doomed

[rare swan]

Oh yes so true

[crisp oracle]

also I had to use Blaine for the first time for Johto EBEs

[cunning swan]

I did an experiment where I cleared 12.5k Kalos CSMM with year 0 pairs and it made me realize that, while the veterans (myself included) always preach about how the content of this game is easy enough to clear with year 0 pairs, it does require more skill and knowledge of the game than your standard braindead NC Marnie

[rare swan]

They literally carried me through every single Galar EBE

[crisp oracle]

never thought i'd see that day

[cunning swan]

which I think is a good trade-off. I get to save my gems and improve my skills in this game?

[crisp oracle]

prenium pairs are meant to be helpers, not support columns

you can't base your entire strategy on ash + red + cynthia, if that's the only team you build and know how to use, what's behind it?

[upbeat lotus]

Someone mentioned Sonia?

[crisp oracle]

Sonia saved my ass for the galar ebes

[rare swan]

Galar EBE 🫅

[cunning swan]

Sonia saved my ass for the Galar and that Grown Woman EBEs

[crisp oracle]

i don't have a single delete button dps dealer other than Zerena

which i'm absolutely fine with

[rare swan]

I didn't get a premium Galar unit until all their EBEs were completed, I owe Bea and Sonia sfm

[crisp oracle]

oh I have SS Steven

that's all I have in terms of uber dps dealers

[hard wave]

Sonia and || 3.5 trio || helped alot w the EBEs

[crisp oracle]

Sonia and Bea is the core that carried the most weight this year

if you didn't have rats on Galar EBE, they saved you

[vernal glade]

Sonia saved me from that Kalos poison EBE

[hard wave]

• u need the investment which newer players may not be able to do

[cunning swan]

yeah, investments like move levels are inevitable, I get that

[crisp oracle]

I have 400K sync orbs I don't know what to do with, and a bunch of units I need to candy but I haven't yet

[cunning swan]

I do think it shows that, for older casual players, you don't need the latest unit in the meta to clear stuff

[crisp oracle]

how good is Masked Royale's grid? I've been lazy with that

[cunning swan]

you're perfectly able to clear with what you have

[cunning swan]

his nuke is so fun

[crisp oracle]

honestly i'm just waiting to candy my favourites at this point

I might candy serena or emma

i don't candy much tbh

[hard wave]

Besides like high score and LG if u want to be on the leaderboard most r prob fine id assume

And some EBEs but luckily there’s always alternatives

But this latest one glad I have ash

[crisp oracle]

I play Pokemon GO and PoMa, in terms of finding alternate solutions to solve the same problem is just the same in PoGo as in PoMa

You don't need to raid/pull units to be competitive in game

[cunning swan]

yup, being competitive is a whole different issue

[crisp oracle]

but GO does have a ridiculous stat system

but look at me. i'm a science nerd, I love dealing with stats

[hard wave]

And also I || pulled nc red after clearing, and candied to 3/5 + EX || but the EBE was still a bit challenging, he still cleared easily but the poison

[hard wave]

I currently have 3 units left to grid also I have enough candies for now

Tho 2 units r reruns that I want so saving the candies for them

And im considering someone else rn

[crisp oracle]

and also sometimes the mystery box or R-N-G

more times than not RNGesus is very hard to please

[cunning swan]

if that means i get to save 36.6k gems, i'll deal

i'm already an RNG slave with my LG streaking

[hard wave]

Oh right the seasonal event this yr is a box event

I hate seasonal events bcz idrc for any seasonal pairs, I have 2 || and one of them is maybun who I got on a yolo when I was new and just pulled on everything ||

[crisp oracle]

prize box wtf

you're joking

[cunning swan]

prize box for halloween?

[hard wave]

There’s like 3 seasonals id want as well but not enough to pity for them

[hard wave]

Nope, its a separate pastebin

https://pastebin.com/9eDxhJwS

[timber wren]

yeah it was honestly a very hard challenge

[crisp oracle]

i still can't do kalos 10K

i don't read enough on each individual stage (though I should)

[hard wave]

I just use the same teams tbh

[timber wren]

year zero pairs have nothing other than weather, terrain didn’t even show up until after first anni

[crisp oracle]

what is this

rob the museum for the prizes?

[hard wave]

Like will ik has wise entry iirc and I use ssrc and anni lillie

Same w caitlin’s dark weak I use cmarnie

[cunning swan]

i dealt with the lack of firepower help by giving the opponents as little bulk as possible. sometimes i have to aim for first sync clears

it was fun though, i'd do it again when sinnoh or hoenn comes back

makes me appreciate year 0 units more

[timber wren]

olivia still hard carrying four years later

[rare swan]

Brendan too

Incredible kit for a launch character

[crisp grotto]

It's pretty insane to be holding up so well, especially considering they're literal launch units

[timber wren]

can we get some in the chat for skyla and swanna

[cunning swan]

Olivia, Brendan, Blue, my backbones

my champs

[crisp oracle]

still the best flinchbot in game

[rare swan]

God tier

[dire meteor]

honestly the goat

or swan

The second support EX I did

[tardy fiber]

Is the rally rewards this reset?

[crisp grotto]

For realll, a day 1, free support that quite literally everyone had and still super useful til date. She is the support of supports tbh

[hard wave]

I should use her more tbh, I havent rlly used her in a while

[hard wave]

Yes

[cunning swan]

we're getting rally rewards? i keep forgetting

which rally is it again

[hard wave]

hisui MCs

The sad part is that this is better than the galar rally

[tardy fiber]

Thanks

[cunning swan]

yoooo 50 champion spirits! so generous!

[hard wave]

I heard somewhere that the rally got finished rlly fast

But it was due to the cake coins

Im glad we get the cake coins bcz I wont have to wait a couple of days to cake zerena but gems wouldve still been great

[tardy fiber]

I will need to wait for 10 days i guess, still need 2 coins

[rare swan]

The coins are nice ig

[hard wave]

Found it I think, 9 hrs after the rally

[hard wave]

I need 6 I think, can get my 15th bcz ill reach 5 daily tickets again

[tardy fiber]

I think i will just use daily tickets to add any role cake coins that i lacking ||especially if i grab a pokefair fave and it gives an extra 4 cake coins||

[rigid oar]

||got leaf|| time to save

[weary spire]

I forgot, then remembered as I was doing my dailies, had something come up and forgot again… prob missed like 600 gems last reset (200 from both boss stages, 300 from missions, 80-100 from daily reward) Whoopsie

[tardy fiber]

Wow from which event?

[winged fossil]

i assume bede's, his seems to have just left judging from mission page

Gem check in, cause I got a 000 number for once with free gems

[dire meteor]

[ashen thunder]

Now that I am in candy and rerun hell, it's time to save

[vestal leaf]

I don't see much need for ssdiantha dupes NGL

Nor Oleana

They're already pretty cracked at base

[ashen thunder]

Well
I want dupes for em personally

Also if I remove em I might get tempted by new techs

[vestal leaf]

I candy based on dupes value more than anything else tbh

New techs will get candied over older ones if their value is higher

Like how I candied ||summer Liza or NC red instead of cmarnie||

||since their 3/5 is way more fun than straight QoL, okay but not insane multipliers or better flinches||

[lost bobcat]

Yup, 100% agree
I've those 1/5 and they do great, or at least they felt alright at base
Same for ssMina

Tech is (or at least was) a cursed role for candies

[violet nebula]

Still is

Now we have field and sprint🤣

[vestal leaf]

To 3/5 all my limited techs I'd need 32 candies

[hard wave]

I have way too many strikers personally

And this doesnt include my rerun list

Half of which is techs actually

[timber wren]

#1010223517565976737 has been updated with the post-september gem count (with new chart!) along with the october candy/cake coin charts

[vestal leaf]

||2/5 Zerena, yuck||

[rigid oar]

Nice

[rigid oar]

2/5 good what

[ashen thunder]

My ssdiantha is already 3/5, I want 5/5 for extension
Oleana is going 3/5 is mainly for galar ebe improvement

Also 1/5 ssmina couldn't clear some offregion ebe for me so I want 3/5 for another def stack and sharp entry

[vestal leaf]

Is it? I personally think 3/5 for a candy is basically a given for her

[crisp grotto]

I agree

2's just kinda awkward

[hard wave]

|| im at 15 coins ||

[ashen thunder]

Oh yea
I eventually have to factor in role cakes in my rerun+candy list

[vestal leaf]

Some 2 are fine

Most strikers are 1 or 3

Tho

[ashen thunder]

I only know like 2 units that actually gain shit at 2/5 and not much at 3/5

[hard wave]

Oh she’s my next candy

[ashen thunder]

It's such a rarity these days

[hard wave]

|| I had 3 but used 2 of them on nc red, so I have to wait ||

[hard wave]

Who?

[ashen thunder]

Pal dawn and ssleaf pre expansion

[vestal leaf]

Faitlin

For one

(still 3/5 because the 3/5 can be fun for some unique challenges)

Yeah pal dawn 3/5 is just "yeah no thnx"

[ashen thunder]

Doesn't faitlin get FA4 or smth

[hard wave]

I c

[ashen thunder]

I don't have her so I don't remember

[vestal leaf]

Yeah FA4 and sync wall

[hard wave]

I want to clear my 2/5 list tbh it and 4/5 is an awkward move level

[vestal leaf]

But it's not really THAT big

[hard wave]

Im considering akari, zerena im doing when I get my next strike candy, but marnie

[ashen thunder]

I'll probs not roll new unit till like Xmas or NY

Unless it's a super fav

Coz I am predicting seasonal Flannery

I doubt pokefair malva this year anyways

[vestal leaf]

Malwho

[ashen thunder]

We got Olympia and drasna this year

So malva soon

Totally

Also Shelly plz don't be variety

[vestal leaf]

I'm expecting every admin to be Variety from now on

[ashen thunder]

I can consume copium coz courtney is gen pool

[vestal leaf]

Courtney is sadly the most popular admin

So they made her gen pool to probably satiate the ground freebie hunger

[ashen thunder]

They kind of messed up ground typing in general

Even poison had koga
Ground is sad unless you played during Nita event or gambled any of limited units

[cunning swan]

Nita event?

[rare swan]

[vestal leaf]

Naomi do be really strong for a freebie tbh

Sad she really needs Ingo

[crisp grotto]

If only they gave her an EX

[cunning swan]

acerola

[tough oriole]

Bertha

[vestal leaf]

Yeah ace doesn't do much to her buffing issues tho

Same for bertha

[tough oriole]

Bertha + Roxanne sounds like it’d work pretty well

[vestal leaf]

Ok, sand and crit maybe

But her main struggle is spatk anyway

[tough oriole]

I havent tried it but on paper it sounds fine

[upbeat lotus]

Roxanne buffs spatk anyway

that team is good enough for her

[vestal leaf]

Yyyeah that can probably work, but both of those struggle on high str stages imo

But for 2.5k it's probably very much fine

[crisp grotto]

You could run her without sand and it'd be fine for like Unova 2.5k

[vestal leaf]

Yea

[cunning swan]

definitely

[vestal leaf]

Most likely

[cunning swan]

just Get Lucky ™️ and dont get hard-hitting moves spammed at you

[vestal leaf]

For 3-3.5-4k tho, she really needs ingo

[tough oriole]

Bertha’s pretty tanky, she should be fine without

[vestal leaf]

I actually have never seen her on 4k aside once

[ashen thunder]

Just offtype if you are stuck with Bertha for ground ontype

[tough oriole]

Why is 4k relevant

[cunning swan]

the casual player will do just fine at 2.5k with Naomi, if they have her

[sturdy hatch]

Clay erasure

[crisp grotto]

Hapu & Clay for 2.5k CSMM

[rare swan]

Nita DPS you cowards

[ashen thunder]

clay suk not noob friendly

[mossy hawk]

Ground as a whole has the least pairs

[tough oriole]

Less than normal?

[ashen thunder]

Psure normal has 20+ units

Still more than ground

[mossy hawk]

Yes

[crisp grotto]

Normal has 15, ground has 14

Unless I've got some weird filter on

[mossy hawk]

Those should be correct

[cunning swan]

Normal does not have this many 😭

[vestal leaf]

Because we're talking high str stages, comparable to hard EBEs

[ashen thunder]

Oh

[vestal leaf]

At least I thought we were

[rare swan]

Maybe we should do that in another thread

[ashen thunder]

But this year we got so many normal units

[vestal leaf]

Clay + victrier carry

[sturdy hatch]

Probably not a good thread for drifting into 4K CSMM and discussing limited units

[ashen thunder]

4k CSMM is ez

[vestal leaf]

We were actually discussing f2p units but yeah

[ashen thunder]

4k CSMM pre sync tho

[sturdy hatch]

[vestal leaf]

Oh yeah that was before I noticed the fact this wasn't #1009554906568462476

It doesn't help that I'm on a train so connection comes and goes

[warm scarab]

Not using your gems is the hardest part of this game lol

[vernal glade]

I mean, the only way to not using them is, making a fav list and waiting for those to rerun which takes months

[winged fossil]

I might be in danger soon cause my rerun list gonna be empty other than sc zinnia pretty soon

[lost bobcat]

Actually is way better
If we consider the old "tech" split into 3, just this month we're getting 9 tech, 7 sprint and 3 field
Give time for those new roles to be more common and more coins will follow so we may reach almost 3 times the amount we normally had for only techs

[vernal glade]

Well, make a list of fav characters, that way when they come you’ll be prepared. That’s another option if you’re running out of reruns.

[winged fossil]

N, Lillie, Serena is literally my entire fav character list basically lol

[vernal glade]

Then you’ll be good for saving then.

Will help ignore some units that aren’t even in a fav list.

That’s my strategy I used when I begun my saving journey last year in November

[warm scarab]

How do I make a list

Is there a website

[warm scarab]

What have you pulled since last nov

[vernal glade]

I don’t know if I’m allowed to say it on this section I believe.

[warm scarab]

Can't you just black it out or something like that 😂

[vernal glade]

Oh right yes.

||It was SS N||

[warm scarab]

Just 1? 🤯

[feral vale]

The tierlist?

[tough oriole]

https://tiermaker.com/create/pokmon-masters-ex-sages-type-colored-1132341

[crisp oracle]

Birds leave in two hours.

I did it.

[winged fossil]

think im not gonna wait for datamine to ||candy proton||, i really want to be able to max crit off the tm and theres not room to get any other supports that might come next month most likely anyway.

[crisp oracle]

Another anni without falling to uber-meta temptation

[crisp grotto]

very nice

[winged fossil]

oh thats this reset? nice.

[crisp oracle]

Thank goodness I waited. ||Now I am rewarded with SS Hilda rerun||

[winged fossil]

lowkey, ||i kinda want that whole banner.||

||SS N|| is my main target but ||while waiting, the other two pairs are growing on me too ngl||

glad that if it had to be a shared rerun this month for my list, its that

[crisp oracle]

I've always had a soft spot for girl units in general

[tardy fiber]

You all have fun, i just gonna have fun with lodge gio this month

[feral vale]

The unit or raising his friendship?

[tardy fiber]

The unit, as its a skip month for me so i need to have fun with only him for a month

[feral vale]

Do you care about raising his friendship lol

[tardy fiber]

Well i guess i do have 2 pairs that will get cake role this month so gonna have fun with em too

[tardy fiber]

Yep to get lodge rewards

[feral vale]

Lol saaaaame

Dude was like “I can’t believe you brought me to a place like this.” and I was like “NOT WILLINGLY “

[tardy fiber]

But i might 200 him later, still hopium that DeNa will give level 200 lodge reward milestones

[vernal glade]

Same, only care bout lodge rewards. Once 100 it’s done.

[feral vale]

I’M JUST WRINGING YOU FOR YOUR CRAP THEN EVICTING YO ASS

[tardy fiber]

I already level 200 all girl lodge guests, now gonna do the guys

[pure arrow]

True, I just want his plushie

[feral vale]

Well at least it’s another free Lodge trainer for peeps

[crisp oracle]

i cannot evict leaf from lodge

[feral vale]

Don’t you dare think about it

[crisp oracle]

i just realized something

no "i" in the ship name, close enough

[feral vale]

Gotta love it

[strange trout]

Legally distinct SS Anne

[hard wave]

|| its a great banner tbh, but im concerned about kalos, alola, and galar ||

|| kanto can be dual, johto can be dual if ss morty is included, hoenn sinnoh and unova all hv 3, but those have 4 and we’ve only had one quad PF banner I think and the rates sucked since 4+ is just /2% ||

[broken mulch]

I’d like to have ||SSHilbert|| but I already have the other two units so skipping

[winged fossil]

i think theres one thing that might tempt me for possibly more non big favs. and thats piercing blows. i feel like im addicted to ignoring stage gimmicks, to the point where i want atleast one per region

[cunning swan]

In some cases it's easier to adhere to the gimmicks than investing in a piercing blows unit though

[tardy fiber]

Man, mysterious stones loves me, i already have 12 of em now...i wonder if it will be used to increase level cap beyond 150

[vestal leaf]

This tbh

Most pblows units are pretty mild

[winged fossil]

||just looked over details of the UnoVA banner units. SS N > SS Hilbert > SS Hilda is my priority going into it. im hoping to get 2/3 if not 3/3 of the banner but, worst case i pity and just exit with N; hilberts type coverage would be super nice to me||

[winged fossil]

||i might look at soccer gloria on a rerun depending on rates and what she shares with, alolas a hard pass for me bc my alola favs arent there, i forget who even was VA Kalos but its prob a skip||

still just glad to empty my top 3 trainers of fav reruns this year

im permaskipping NY Lillie cause i just dont care for ribombee at all, with my bug related phobias. collecting the other alts of my fav trio tho and between this and end of either nov or dec i should be done that process till new alts come

[vestal leaf]

||SS lys, Emma, SS Diantha and Anabel||

[winged fossil]

||Oh so easy skip for me cool.||

||Only have to possibly worry about Galar future rerun then.||

[winged fossil]

Oops I coulda gotten a couple hundred more gems lol. I forgot to even touch flying gear event. Oh well

Thought I had another day or two left but it is gone

Not as important when they’re worse than skill gear in long run anyways ig

[sturdy flower]

130k milestone

slowly but surely going up

would be nice to hit 150k but we will see next datamine

almost 16k this month so should be doable

146k and then 4 from next month at around the beginning

might be 1k from lodge soon too

[snow rose]

Finally set out hard plans for ||scout/save|| lol hopefully I won’t ||impulse scout|| now

[vestal leaf]

I'd remove the meta tier

Tbfh

[snow rose]

True

[ashen thunder]

I'd remove like as well
More than 5 is hard to chase rerun wise

[snow rose]

Rip meta tier you won’t be missed

[ashen thunder]

5 rerun = 180k gems afterall worst case scenario

[snow rose]

True

[upbeat lotus]

if you can afford paid gems, you should create a select tier

and you only pull units in that tier if they are in select banners

[snow rose]

Man

[snow rose]

I don’t really tend to pull from those, I only do if I like them(they are on the list) so I can just save more

[upbeat lotus]

thats why i advised you to do that, move some non Master Fair units to that tier and focus on saving for the rest

[snow rose]

Oh ok

Misunderstood my b

[ashen thunder]

If you have affordability to do selects
Move seasonal reruns and relatively less fav pokefairs to selector tier

[snow rose]

Would this include lodge pairs?

[ashen thunder]

Lodge is just lodge

Psure lodge is more like "free selector" category

[crisp oracle]

Don’t make lodge the exclusive reason you pull for a unit

Especially Adaman, if you’re going for Adaman just for lodge, then I don’t think you really want him as a unit

[upbeat lotus]

and they usually give out a free Pokefair with lodge version every anni

like we just got Marnie, N and Raihan free select

[ashen thunder]

Just cope for free adaman, one day it'll happen

unless eos happens before that

[upbeat lotus]

i dont think i can wait for 10 years for free Adaman

[vernal glade]

Well, him and Irida the only ones left for me so, I wouldn’t mind going for a free adaman.

[snow rose]

Yeah I do like all of them, they aren’t exclusively for lodges

[ashen thunder]

Fgo players waited 3 years for Arjuna alter rerun
Pokemon fans are stronger

[vestal leaf]

Game won't even last 10 years

[ashen thunder]

[vestal leaf]

I don't see Poma reaching 2029

[upbeat lotus]

thats the game's eos

[snow rose]

When EoS happens they give as a permanent free banner with all limited pairs trust

[upbeat lotus]

[ashen thunder]

Coping for free adaman selector is more realistic than ash rerun

[vestal leaf]

I don't know, maintenance mode isn't a guarantee

DeNa already closed a game or two directly without passing by maintenance mode iirc

Ofc you can argue Pokémon is different but I just wanna remind that 2029 is 5+ years away

We barely set foot in 4th year of life

[ashen thunder]

Tbf 4th year is when most gacha games start to fall off

If it's not losing playerbase before year 5, it'll likely hit year 10 easily

[vestal leaf]

Poma also had already some questionable economy decisions since third anni

[vernal glade]

So technically 2029

[vestal leaf]

The fact I've seen 4-6 big whales dropping PoMa in last 4 months is...mhhhh

A single whale is more worth for DeNa than 100 f2ps and dolphins

[ashen thunder]

Eh depends on how sales go
Tho iirc anni 4 wasn't rly as spectacular

[vestal leaf]

Anni itself was good

The lead up to it tho

Awful

[ashen thunder]

The sales was like an average month

[vestal leaf]

Nah

[ashen thunder]

Iirc alola VA had similar numbers

And that month didn't even have new MFs

[vestal leaf]

Alola VA was may? June?

[vernal glade]

It was May

[ashen thunder]

May I think

[vestal leaf]

Also Lana is like

The biggest selling fair of the last 2 years? And Acerola didn't go much worse

[ashen thunder]

Wasn't Mina the one that sold most out of 4

[pure arrow]

I don’t know but Hau sold the least of the 4 by far I think

[vestal leaf]

Nope, Lana apparently

Btw

[ashen thunder]

I thought it was Mina > lana > acerola > hau

[vestal leaf]

05/23 159mil
08/23 370mil

"not much better"

[pure arrow]

Out of curiosity is that Yen or USD?

[vestal leaf]

August was being horrible til 20-25th

[vestal leaf]

Yen

You can see here Anni didn't go bad at all

For this year's averages

Most of that 302 was all in the last third of August btw

Galar fairs sold really poorly

[pure arrow]

Can’t believe April actually grossed slightly more than May

Did the Galar NC banners last until April?

[vestal leaf]

Nope iirc

[torpid prawn]

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[upbeat lotus]

hmm i forgot the bot doesnt show the end date

[vestal leaf]

I can go check

Brb

9th April

End

I guess stragglers could've slightly inflated April number

But not by much

Whales don't wait 2 datamines to scout

That said, I think the gacha economy is suffering as a whole

Which is why Poma did quite worse than 3rd year

Even tho its best placements are very much the same

So I think 3 years of current "activity" are secured

Kinda

Anything can happen tho

And messups are common

[snow rose]

I am very curious to see what they will do at the end

[vestal leaf]

Probably a year or so of maintenance mode

Where you can basically scout whatever

To rile in the last bit of money

While rerunning events nonstop

Without anything new

[snow rose]

Yeah

[vestal leaf]

Then close up

[pure arrow]

Isn’t that along the lines of what MK Tour is doing rn?

[vestal leaf]

Yes

That's maintainance mode

[ashen thunder]

Maint mode is so rare no

[vestal leaf]

Depends

[ashen thunder]

All old gachas I used to play, they just closed em right away

[lost bobcat]

It could also mean we were stripped of our gems before
From dec to march we had an average of 33,5K gems
It's almost a pity each month
Many probably burned a lot on the galar NCs facing a short april and some had to
Also april had paid tiered scouts for seasonals which contribute

[sand crown]

Holy cow

[spring lodge]

Ok I'm gonna start with

Uh

85 gems.....
.

[violet nebula]

Better than 0

[feral vale]

Never too late to start saving.

[crisp oracle]

Three pities!

[feral vale]

[lofty relic]

saving for something in particular?

[crisp oracle]

SC Diantha, any more Diantha alts, Gloria, Hilda, and Irida alts

[warm scarab]

How do you not spend all your gems on anni 🥹 I went down to 0 lol

That’s solid

[feral vale]

They didn’t have favs for this Anni iirc

[winged fossil]

I got lucky and only needed like 4 or so multis to be done my anni spending personally.

this months prob gonna be -1 pity for me tho

||wanting 2/3 of the unova banner and possibly dupes if I don’t get to bail early||

[crisp oracle]

I don't really like Kanto pairs tbh

and I have enough Kanto pairs to fill me for a lifetime

[winged fossil]

This anni is prob about all the kanto pairs I’d want being already created so I’ll prob be fine for future kanto months

[sturdy flower]

three pities (maintained) every day, keep unfortunate surprises away

[sturdy flower]

wait for datamine~

[winged fossil]

||SS N|| means no matter what the datamine has im hitting that banner, if i get him early tho ill wait for mine before going deeper

cause thats a fav ive missed twice now, not making it a 3rd strikeout on him.

[vernal glade]

I’m waiting for datamine. ||Before SS Hilda and SS Hilbert. SS N is already obtained.||

[rare swan]

A good strategy!

We love knowing we can get a surprise fave

[maiden kayak]

keep saving up

[crisp oracle]

I await SC Diantha patiently

I think I’ve pretty much solidified my faves list

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-for-train-state-champs-criminal-song-standing-by-the-pillar-leaning-on-the-pillar-gif-25083380

[rare swan]

Next month bestie

[winged fossil]

i just realized i am kinda... blind apparently. past like month or whatever my protons been without a lucky skill

[winged fossil]

big gem day, iirc villa today which i think also means my support candy is today

[warm scarab]

Celebrating my first pity after going down to 0 for Anni 🥹

[winged fossil]

pity is 36.6k tho—shot

Grats either way

[warm scarab]

O true 😂😂😂 still quite a bit to go then...

[lofty relic]

nice saving! well done

[robust shore]

||Rei took me to pity (and 0 gems 💀), but I'm still glad I managed to nab him. Back to saving :D||

[agile wren]

Almost at a full pity again since pulling anni

[rare swan]

[lean mango]

Got around 84k now

Recovering to that #100klife

[tardy fiber]

Just saving gems this month to recuperate

[dire meteor]

I'm well on my way to a pity too.

[winged fossil]

Stalled slightly on my villa clear since I’m sick rn but did it and 2/5’d Proton off it since enjoying using my freebie rocket a lot. Not like I had anything else in queue for support anyway and mpr for his tm seemed really nice for him. Other candies I’m saving until basically December datamine at the least

Prob one of the extremely rare cases that I’d candy a five star that isn’t a trainer or poke fav in the slightest. If he was any other role I’d prob have ignored his grid

Support just happens to be the one I rarely get favs for so it’s the role I can be the most free flowing with

(Prob will still save next two candies for the role for new future pairs, just having ability to max team crit vs not is a massive deal imo on unit I’m enjoying)

[tawny cedar]

Halfway to a pity

I think I'll reach a pity in time for farty but if I don't,I'll just have a pity on standby for any future faves

[livid geyser]

For dark zone units (only have 1/5 ss Cyrus) should I go for akari or nc Calem?

[vestal leaf]

Zone isn't a necessity, and tbh Cyrus is the worst of the three at using it

If they're not faves, don't bother. If you're a meta puller, calem is the best unit overall

[livid geyser]

Ah kk

I should wait for the next data mine before deciding Calem through since it is close enough?

Also, should I 3/5 my NC Leaf or start working on my 1/5 SS Diantha? I will have a gold and tech candy soon

I am 2/5 on leaf

[vestal leaf]

Yeah definitely wait

There's always gonna be better to pull meta wise, so in general it's better to go for faves

1/5 SS Diantha is perfectly fine
3/5 NC Leaf gets a lot of utility so she's not a bad investment

I'd say leaf 2->3/5 is a fair investment to go for, but I'd recommend saving up candies, you never know when they could drop a new unit that you like and that needs 3/5

[livid geyser]

Hmm. Kk

[warm scarab]

Just double checking a pity is 33.4k?

I thought it’s 11 multi + 2 single

[grim plover]

it's 12 multi + 2 single

[hard wave]

36.6k, 36.4k if u do a daily

[crisp oracle]

+pity

[jade lava]

Pulls to reach 400+/400 scout points:
12 multis + 4 paid singles (36.4k)
12 multis + 2 singles (36.4k (paid single + nonpaid single) to 36.6k gems (nonpaid singles))
13 multis (39k gems)
134 singles (40k (including daily paid single) or 40.2k gems (nonpaid single))

You can calculate how many gems you need until pity using /pity in #bot-zone.

[crisp oracle]

@warm scarab

[livid geyser]

How good is Roxanne?

The new one

[tough oriole]

This isn’t really the best place to ask about how good a pair is; this is a place to help people save their gems and skip everyone but their favourites
You may want to ask in #poma-questions if you’re considering pulling her

[livid geyser]

Well, I only have one guaranteed pull so I’m trying to see if I should pull her or someone else

I’m wondering if I should save my gems or try to get her

[fallen path]

Yeah just ask in #poma-questions

[winged fossil]

also worth saying to wait for datamine if youre on the edge cause the unit would still be here at datamine, thus you can see what november has too

[winged fossil]

~~ when, DENA? ~~

just tried her in cs and man i think i like her

[feral vale]

She’s hella fun in CS, I’ve used her since her debut

[warm scarab]

Hollllleyy so all that time I thought pity was 11 multi it’s actually 12

[rare swan]

+pity

[jade lava]

Pulls to reach 400+/400 scout points:
12 multis + 4 paid singles (36.4k)
12 multis + 2 singles (36.4k (paid single + nonpaid single) to 36.6k gems (nonpaid singles))
13 multis (39k gems)
134 singles (40k (including daily paid single) or 40.2k gems (nonpaid single))

You can calculate how many gems you need until pity using /pity in #bot-zone.

[frosty junco]

Omw to save for ||SSN|| now, im planning to pull on the last day.

[winged fossil]

Unless next month is somehow stacked you might not form a pity in time ngl
Also spoiler the unit names in this channel if it’s a unit running in a given month from my understanding, to help people avoid temptation easier

||spoiler|| incase you don’t know how to spoiler something (result: ||spoiler||)

[frosty junco]

Ah, sorry i did not thought about that.

||Well even if i dont get him i have a large chance to get atleast one ove the UnoVA units which i also really like||

I have not done all legendary arena and sync pair story if that helps

[crisp grotto]

They can get you a fair amount of gems, sure. But I think a better mentality to have is to pull for an absolute favourite, not just someone you don't mind pulling. Because that can end up being pretty much any pair in the game. One of the most common strategies I've seen here is to make a small list of your favourites, note it down somewhere and only pull when those come up

[frosty junco]

Well, im a player who is really like diversity of char i use. So fave isnt much of thing for me and could easily change from day to day

Like, in the past im simping hard for kantrio. But wound up getting bored playing with them all again for hard stages

[rare swan]

If you want to check if there's any more free gems you can grab, head to #bot-zone and use the command "+ freegems" (without the space)

[frosty junco]

Seems like its not much since coop and 1/4 of La is the sources that i have not already done.

[weary aspen]

saving up a pity for ||NC Calem||, after hard saving for ||new december MFs or SST Red||

[robust plaza]

Gem count. Saving until datamine

[winged fossil]

Haven’t finished my dailies but

[feral vale]

The real flex is getting that Cool outfit

[crisp oracle]

it's really cool that they gave it to us for free

[feral vale]

[tardy fiber]

Cannot wait for pink outfit this month

I probably can level 100 lodge Gio this reset, finally something new to be added to my roster

[feral vale]

Then you will him out of Lodge

[tardy fiber]

Well for now at least, until all other lodge guests already level 200 and then i will face him again

Gonna keep my lodge milestones update hopium strong

[winged fossil]

meanwhile, me, waiting for the final ep of a dubbed anime tomorrow:
sadly though, still sick right now. really hope this sinus related sickness goes away soon.

[winged fossil]

forgot to finish dailies today so just lost a cakecoin and prob a daily ticket too, oh well.

sinus problems suck

[oak crest]

Feeling kinky aren't we

[sturdy hatch]

Can we not?

[tawny cedar]

How dry are these months getting

It's the 11th of October with only 11k gems remaining

I'm going to be a multi short of a pity

[tardy fiber]

It feels dry because our anni and run up to anniv didn't have much gems, other than that the amount of gems for October is the same like last year's

[tawny cedar]

hmm

All I can do is hope we get an extra 3k gems before farty leaves

[vestal leaf]

It's more a matter of

• first 2 weeks hold 60% of the gems of the month so it feels like second half is even slower

[tardy fiber]

I barely survived because on run up to anniv was just a skip month, so i managed to save all of the gems

[sturdy hatch]

Almost round

[crisp grotto]

That is truly impressive

[vernal glade]

9k till 170k, im getting close

[gloomy holly]

||I caved in to getting Red because I really wanted an EX support unit who gives SEUN||

[sturdy flower]

i wish you recovery from this trigonometry

[reef river]

Hey all. Been a while since ive felt i needed to post in here. All things considered ive done decently well managing my gems and getting the units I want without needlessly wasting them over the summer. Im gonna need help this month to at least hold till datamine however

Ive got 18k gems rn. I had 33k at the start, and originally i was going to pull for halloween roxanne only. But ive been playing a lot of PLA and my desire to have one of the MCs was too strong and i spent 20k+ on Akari

I know december usually has crazy banners and november can be a wildcard month, so I just need the strength to at least see November before i go for roxanne and determine if its a good choice

And this is the lowest my gem count has been in a long time so it doesnt feel good

Just posting here to hold myself accountable. Sorry for the wall of text

[rare swan]

No apologies necessary

you're doing great!

[sturdy flower]

Last november was a VA month so it definitely is a wildcard

i'd guess some more PLA stuff

[tough oriole]

Could also be more Paldea stuff

||Penny soon ||

[timber wren]

i’m guessing paldea or unova

[reef river]

Im pretty safe with more PLA stuff unless they make like mai or arezu pokefairs

Id like to see some PLA spotlights

If its SC units thats been at least one hit for me each time besides detectives

[vernal glade]

Luckily I only have a single hisui fav. So I’m pretty much very safe for hisui than Unova.

[reef river]

I went for akari but honestly i regret picking her over Rei

[vernal glade]

I won’t be seeing my hisui fav for a long time which gives me a good chunk of time of saving.

[reef river]

Thankfully im not a volo fan so i know i can skip one upcoming bait

[vernal glade]

He’s a 100% skip for me. ||Only going to pull hisui Zoroark and that’s all for hisui. Nothing else.||

[sturdy flower]

honestly Penny for Eevee day wouldn't even be strange

[sturdy flower]

cultured fellow!

i might skip Mai if it's a normal support Munchlax (third Snorlax line to have that job...)

Arezu is likely to have her Liligant

i really doubt they would give her Bronzong or Purugly

oh, Mai could also have a Weavile (or another Crobat )

[sand crown]

Same here. I'm just not much of a Hisui fan. That, and ||Irida and Adaman both took me to pity||. Forever resentful

[tardy fiber]

Cannot wait for fall event this reset, i just gonna nab the two Rainbow feathers for my event skill gear collection

[rare swan]

We love free resources

[tardy fiber]

I just gonna focus on those, screw other feathers too much RNG

I still dont have any hisui fave, fingers crossed for the origin forms, enamorus, heatran, uxie, azelf, shaymin land, manaphy, phione, arceus being hisui

Oh forgot about Thundurus

[rare swan]

Vantner I am curious

Out of your 71 faves

Who is #1

[tardy fiber]

I think its Oak, i got him first

[rare swan]

Well that I did not expect

nice

OH SORRY

I meant fave!

[tardy fiber]

Oh number 1 hurmm, Groudon

[rare swan]

[tardy fiber]

I got nostalgia with it, pokemon ruby gameplay memories

Second is regirock

[rare swan]

Nice!

[crisp oracle]

My favourite unit is still SS Diantha

it's so satisfying to watch the rocks storm down on my opponents

[tardy fiber]

Im happy that past paradoxes have sun related stuffs in game, hope its similar in poma so that it can make my groudon more relevant in the future

[elfin falcon]

How many gems come from the villian arcs?

[rare swan]

+freegems

[jade lava]

Short version
In-Depth version

Gem Total : 51,960

[crisp oracle]

I have crossed the 114K gem threshold

I feel like it's so easy to save now

[sturdy flower]

it's weird, but after you cross a certain gem threshold you start to value them more

and it deters you from yolo pulls

[rare swan]

You start to get very attached, yeah

Which is good

[cunning swan]

i get attached to my 6 digits gem count

sadly had to lose it recovering again now, at 80k

[versed flame]

true, besides the gem count itself being attractive, having lots of gems makes saving goals seem more achievable

[tardy fiber]

Im not sure if im attached to my gem count, im just like if there's a fave pull...if not skip, so sometimes it does stacks a lot especially during skip months

Well because i save to have enough to get faves

I will end this month with close to 80k gems thankfully

[oak crest]

hopefully nov is chill as well, unless they decide to hold NC on nov

[tardy fiber]

Or SC although past 2 SC didn't have any faves for me but SC is tough, 4 limited pairs in sometimes dry gems month...pokewar SC still give me nightmares

[oak crest]

speaking of SC they havent run a new SC char on rosa's rerun, that could be a possibility

[tardy fiber]

I hope they dont dump NPC pairs idea in favor of varieties, i hope they release more than just naomi, kali, helena

[tardy fiber]

Yeap hope its not all faves like pokewar