#Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)
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Just do all the challenging battles in events, the staminaless ones you will eventually forget you have limited 4 and 3 star candies
Are variety scouts ever worth pulling?
Nope
They lack unique outfits, unique ex palettes and often have dupe mons
They're glorified and FOMO centric seasonals
Because they don't seem to rerun
I was considering Variety Noland cus I like him, but I'll just wait till his Pinsir unit gets EX
Yo
If Diantha gets variety I am not pulling
I’m not strong enough to resist a ||Variety Zinnia||, but I will skip the Aqua admins and Tabitha if they are variety at least
DeNA please make it happen
oof 2 less yellow candy coin than last month, although idk if 3 yellow candy is a "regular" month
Its a good aberage so far
#1010223517565976737 message
We got the highest amount of omni coins this month (5)
October '22 we had just 1
Are the gift Gems for tomorrow counted in the Gems til... thing?
Yes
It's just an alright month for gems
ah
so, how does one get enough gems for a pity in a month and a half? is 100%ing event missions a large part of it? because I can never do enough damage to win the "Battle Challenge! Round 1" fights
You should manage them with freebie units and few gen pools
Those are quite good but not the biggest chunk
Daily activities, event clears and so on are the main core. Claim your daily reward. Clear events and champion stadium and villa
Tbh all battle challenge R1 should be easy to complete with f2p units
You may need to focus your resources
ive got a good amount of units, I'm just not sure why they seem to hit harder than I do
I'm usually at or above the reccomended level
Are you reading the battle tips?
yeah, it doesn't seem to help much
Regardless if which stage, try asking help #1009557516369281075
Post the screnshot of the match
Some stages have gimmicks, if you don't follow that the enemy will be harder to face
which part of the match?
Before pressing READY (when you can see your 3 units and the enemy)
Just to let them know what are you using and on which stage
okay posted it, I haven't really done much with the villa and champion stadium after unlocking the initial mission, I guess i'll work on that more
the bonuses are unique multipliers, that is, they are additive with each other but multiplicative with anything else
that means if you have 3 suitable pins for your damage dealer you can stack quite a few bonuses
I hear ya, that wasn't really what I was asking about there, though. Apologies if it was unclear. Already came to a conclusion 
Answer is while we don't have much to gauge how plentiful they'll be, they likely cost too many resources to exchange for on a consistent basis. So you're better off ignoring them until we get more info
I already spent 20
on a pin before I reaally thought about it though, so that's unfortunate
I'm expecting them to be given as rewards in content
Right, but we don't know how plentiful they'll be
i think pins might be worth it in the long run but it's kind of insane how many you need for a truly good gear
There's a v decent possibility that so long as you're keeping up with content, they largely give you the items you need
since you probably want to lock max possible bonus, best themes, and at the end everything and just reroll base stats
Probably won't be on the level of exchanging for
, but it could be similar, for all we know
It might just be the whale option, who knows? We def don't
Well, I get that, but yeah, I'm just strictly talking item rarity and resource spending to obtain them
But yeah, that can all play into it as other factors
that's still not meta defining if getting half potential is 10 times easier
Regardless, don't exchange imho
It'll only matter for like top 50 in HSE lol
Just not worth it based on the lil info we have of the item rarity & when considering how much they'll cost on a monthly basis
Even if we do find out that they're still rare enough to warrant the exchanges, we're still likely not going to be getting such a high level of
that you're maxing it all out every month while maintaining new EXes, etc.
it's more likely very good feathers will be the issue
Even less reason to exchange, if that's the belief
Lemme check how much all those items we have so far would cost monthly again... I forget
Isn't there a gear event upcoming very soon to get us started with some free copies?
Believe so, at least I've heard
It's next reset 
65
/ month total
Yeah that's pretty hefty unless you're a hyper whale
Exactly lol
3.25 Units' EX material
bring back bonanza and add gear to the exchange!
Even if you were gonna do exchanges for some of those occasionally, you're prob going to skip it sometimes anyway
So 0 harm in skipping now
If you're whaling, just go for it as you might occasionally with
or something
Time will tell you much we're given and how beneficial it ends up being I guess
Like Ron said
It’s not for us
It’s for whales
And whales aren’t in this thread anyways lol
I mean, I guess for all we know, they'll pump up the
income a lot higher than they already have? :p I guess nothing's impossible
They aren't increasing
influx
They are increasing 
I kinda doubt it

Same difference
Not really
Though it does also feel like
has increased
Monthly cap
There are multiple sources of it
Yeah, monthly cap, that is now even more consistently obtainable across the board
I would call that a
income increase generally speaking when that applies to everyone, even if it it applies to some players more than others
i lack 
On top of the fact that there just straight up are more sources of
now
For sure
many spotlight or free base units
Also considering y'know, resource saving support here, a lot of people who save gems weren't as easily maxing
exchanges, was frankly undoable on a lot of months unless you happened to be spending gems, if you were balancing resources across the board
Yep, business as usual :p
same, they might be useful for eggs or something someday
And if you’re a spender, the 10 paid gem a day summon for 10 days helped a lot too
Basically 110 sync pairs for 100 paid gems
It does feel a bit overkill now :p Bc VAs just like... doubling
income was pretty wild
True
And don’t forget the hoarding of the guaranteed tickets lol
I got over 60
from the 5* guaranteed
same
Yeahh lol, that's another example of
increase
i release them once a year
Probably add another 20-30 from the regional tickets lol
although i saved the regional tickets where i had everything i wanted
When you really sit down and think about it, a lot of little things are playing a role
Do we get more BP nowadays? I'm asking bc I don't wanna be totally wrong
70 a day
But I feel like we do, considering y'know... more sources of it, we get a lil extra from everything
And idr from CS
Yeah I mean, it seems obvious to say the answer is yes 🤣 But I just wanted to ask in case
i really hope they update BP rewards fast
I don’t follow everything in the game lol
or i might miss click
I feel like events w/ BP, stuff like LG, more from CS, the daily, etc.
I k ow this is resource management thread but I don’t min max everything lol
It's def all added up
Oh don't worry, I kind of used to, now I don't so much reaally
I do think about stuff generally speaking tho
only minmax what matters to you
Basically, I'm just trying to say... increased BP = increased
, somewhat 
(Not by a ton, but it counts)
I’m pretty reckless with EX units
But I’m at the stage where it doesn’t matter that much
I really wasn't for a v long time. I had hardly any EXes
Then I just had too many to know what to do with, and not enough I was super super down for
I’ve been 5
: 15
for a year now
So now I just kinda EX a bit more flippantly
Yeah, same, been doing 5 : 15 for a while
As ya should, if you've got the resources, go for it :p
My friend's started the game a couple months ago, so even though the game has been a lot more generous when it comes to well, a lot of things like even sync orbs,
, BP, gems
It does kinda help to see him play and more easily be like "Oh yeah, resources are finite" lol
Anyone remember being careful with their sync orbs?
But yeah I mean, diff players are at diff stages w/ resources still, so there'll always be someone who still needs the help managing the resources that seem far too plentiful for some of us now :p
Yeah lol when you'd run out of orbs and there was a stage you really needed to grid a new unit for 😔
Lool yep
Partially gridding units to save orbs, seeing who I could get away with going gridless @ CS... good times
At the very start grinding up level items too
I remember at launch when the Ultra Hard training area was like really difficult 
He asked me "Who should I grid?" and I had to stop and think about what that question meant for a moment
So there’s a lot of buildup towards that
True, for sure
I wish I was around for it
I'm the veteran to newbies and newbie to the veterans
Twas a vibe
I started around 2nd Anni
Ahh I see. I played the game the day it launched, me and a whole group of friends were hyped for it
People fell off over time pretti quick tho
So really not all that long when you think about it... or at least, don't tell me it was long
2 years went by in an instant
Hey 2 years is quite a while
Fair enough, I do remember the game having a bit of a rougher patch from what I've heard?
Somewhere from when it was beginning to get going & them figuring out what to do with things like stamina and such, probably
There were definitely uh problems at launch. I also took a couple months break
Or rather, what to do before stamina was probably worse
Yeah 100%. I remember the first mewtwo event was just plain ass LMAO
Lol... was that the one you had to grind hardcore?
The period up until Mewtwo was so boring and after that it was slowly improving. Tbh, until Christmas and the release of Cynthia in January it was a different game
Just playing over and over again
Yeah .. it was really, really tedious. And the stage was hard
Sync grids didn't exist, Olivia was the meta unit
Yeah, I do remember hearing that sentiment
Also on sync Gio would wipe your stat buffs so the +2 crit and +4 attack you got in 4 turns was just gone 
Was Air Slash Will a real thing? Or what was the whole deal with that?
Defs this. It shifted pace quickly after Cynthia I think
Yeah, iirc he had the highest special attack stat at one point too.
Ohh wait nevermind, it was people saying not to unlock Air Slash on Will
... or something
I dunno 😂 Shit's confusing
Tbh I have started playing this game with strats only after joining this subreddit and then the discord lol
I was not aware of Datamines or anything, just word of mouth with friends. They don’t play anymore though, so I migrated to Reddit and then discord to keep myself up to date and motivated
That's fair
Pretty much exactly same, none of my friends I started out with play anymore
I actually think I joined this Discord to ask a question about how move gauge acceleration worked
Lol, for me it’s the same with every Pokémon game, lol
At least my gf plays the Switch games, so there’s that
Niceee, my friends do play mainline, they just quit this one pretty soon into launch. Which, understandable tbh
Anyway uh, y'know, history of resources. It was a different game, things were a tougher grind, had to be more careful
People still have to be more careful depending on how they play or how new they are especially, which is easy to forget. Save gems (and other stuff) 
Yeah, on the flip side I guess new players now do have access to more resources and well in the case of discord/reddit, can get help from people who are experienced with the game
For sure
Though I have been a bit out of things lately, I will say that I appreciate how the game has been able to add options for harder content without restricting resources, but rather doing the opposite
Makes getting into a lot of these things more accessible for people
Yeah for sure, it's not too hard to get into 'endgame' content like CS/LG relatively early
Tbh I feel like Anni would have been such an hard time to join the game this time around. Which kinda blows. I also feel like that we are reaching a point where new players despite having a good amount of resources will get overwhelmed by the sheer amount of stuff that they have to catch up with
That's a good point, tbf
I'm kinda biased as someone who was just really thrown off guard by skill gear lmao
I think this is definitely true, because if I'm being honest if it wasn't a Pokemon game I woulda been out the door a while ago lmao.
But that might be something that comes to mind
Not to say skill gear's bad at all btw, not at all! I'm js it was like damn... we were close to getting all the typed gear, and now there's this special gear with separate skills you roll on it, but also you have to protect some, and so on
Oh yeah definitely a lot of info to take in 
and make sure it works with the right theme skills, build something for a particular team
When I first saw some of the stuff like "DR on Poison Zone 5%" I was just like ??
Lool
well shit this is a little oddly specific isn't it
The passive names get pretty funny
Yep
Sync Buff & Hit: Physical Boost Up 3 9
Now yeah, I get it, sync buff, and then you hit, and then you get 3 stacks of PMUN, and the 9 is 100%.. ... but bro 

The letters say they’ll be event rewards sometimes so
I just see it as a way of doing super min-maxing. Tbh I have not checked if there’s another way to get them besides 5* PU, but it that’s the case I’m just gonna skip it. It’s really not worth that important of a resources for improving my results in something like HS by mere percentages
Nah yeah, kinda same, I mean, I think it's actually kinda cool (probably) as an idea
It’s already me being like “skip” in response to the monthly shop
It is just another thing that might be potentially overwhelming to people, tho
I do too, I'm optimistic that over time it'll become more accessible and optimised once people see how it works and stuff
For sure
And I don't think the game has gone extremo-mode yet. I'm biased as a player ofc, but I think the game largely makes everything come off... decently simple, enough
Compared to other games/gacha I've seen friends play
Oh yeah 100%, it also helps that as a pokemon game, some things are already general knowledge
It's not just starting a new concept from scratch
I'm like bro there is no way you didn't read up online about this, that, this and that to understand what you're even looking at
I don't think Masters is trying to be overly complex, anyway, but yeah. I doubt it'll get toooo crazy
And some of it is def fairly intuitive to Pokemon fans, for sure
I think that the core gameplay loop will always be pretty easy, so that’s good for accessibility
Rn I just just wish they’d add the new drinks to the bundles for events lol, that feels like such an easy thing to implement
True
What's up with that?
Like, it really bugs me that I can’t accumulate them in any other way
It’s just so annoying and makes me feel like I’m gonna always be behind lol
Because we would have no reason to touch the new training areas if they were in events

Not that I have reason to anyways till a fav drops in the roles
I just want to reach a similar level compared to my other drinks, then I’ll stop. However, I’m only like 1/3 of the way there 
There’s little reason to, the new roles aren’t that accessible
We have one f2p field. That’s it if you don’t pull them
Especially when they aren’t giving us training rallies anymore
By time much comes for the roles they’ll probably be in events
Well, the alternative for me is grinding 3* PU, of which I have 1000+ rn
But yeah, idk, I assume there were no updates to the shop from the datamine, though, right?
anyone have an estimate of how long into the month id be waiting for 2
coins? im at 8100 BP
would be 3, but im likely getting +1 coin from leaf lodge this upcoming reset (LV64 atm on her) so ill only need 2
||kinda wanna candy Proton for tm MPR||
Have you checked #1012256199128915968 message
please do not discuss pulling here
Yep thanks for deleting it
Gem count. Saving until datamine ||then might pull on unoVA banner||
Progress on saving, seems I’ll be heading to 170k since I calculated the gem total.
damn, how many months of savings is this?
I cannot remember actually.
Been a few months I’m guessing?
So maybe around…. May??
But I can confirm I started saving back in November
wow, one entire year
very achievable if you're determined
(but also a great achievement!)
i realise the gem count actually reduces but no of new units coming is higher now
which became 6 instead of 4
It's still 4 if you ignore variety
yeah if you ignore the variety pairs everything is normal
True, unless people pulling all 6
Tho at this point variety feels more limited than MFs
But im too stingy
So i gonna have skip month
I gonna have fun with lodge gio for the whole month
nidorino gaming
Plus, ||seeing the new event scenes motivates me to save and prepare gems for the future||
Well i only watch it 30 minutes earlier 
Wait why is rally counted in this month's gem count
they fall in this datamine period
Welp uh
High chance i can't pity farty
Unless he runs into november
Does farty run into november?
If he doesn't I'll be 1.7k gems off
Till 1st November based on #1012256199128915968
3k gems!!!
Then unless 30th oct -1st nov has 1.7k gems I have to skip farty,again...

I have no more paids
I doubt I'll get more
So it's either hoping there's 1.7k more gems before he leaves,a rally or wait till next year
Goodluck||there's 6 pairs so lower rate than rocket ||
The dark samurott is new right? Why the moves so dang op
Don't think this is the place to share
Gem count, anyways it's been a while but now at 80k 
Gem count
3k gem and the kanto bird will be gone in about 1 week. Yeah i dun have the gem huhu
Me who's one multi away from NC Red:
please refrain from talking about current and upcoming banners here
Last year we had 5 limiteds and 2 gen pools, this year 4 limiteds, 2 variety and a gen pool
I think this October is fine
Wow the special feather in rei akari event shop gives guaranteed stats, themes, additional effects that fit for them...well as i skip akari and rei, gonna use that feather to make exclusive sscyrus gear because he is also sinnoh dark 
Kinda nice for sscyrus
Oh dang that’s nice
Its good for long game too as this feather is only for 1 gear, so if this event reruns, can put it on another gear
So use this one for bandanna/bracelet/pin then if it reruns, use on other part
Rei feather looks nice for fighting damage dealer pair that weak to flying but it's for fighting/sinnoh/main character
well. the people who were complaining bout new drinks not being in event shops doesnt have to complain now
theyre finally doing 5-packs.
Finally!
Woo that's good
I guess i just gonna name the skill gear - Akari Gear 2 because i put on bracelet and Rei Gear 3 because i put on pin
Either way I’m still not using them. Maybe except for the one that has fighting.
||so rei's the canon hisui MC according to this event, cool||
Rei gear can boost my scguzma punch
||u can from the sync move name||
critastrophe works only for sync
Yep i sync with scguzma
He got SE after sync as well
i dont read kits for pairs that i dont plan to pull the lever on 90% of the time anymore
it helps me with saving if i dont know what they do 
...why do i have a feeling this events story just teased another future pair that isnt even in the mine.
0 clue what that actually was at the end but, for some reason thats my gut feeling in response to the story.
actually it teased eos, in this essay...
Hope they give special feather for bunch of event 
They added some in the hisui event shop too
I wonder tho, can the gears receive the same stat boosts as each other, cos if they do, u can potentially have an additional 240 attack or sp attack from 3 gears
Altho rolling for the same theme for the 3 eq is another problem 
Probably can stack, thats why i hope that there's another future event that have fighting/dark pair with rainbow feather, then i will give that feather to pin/bracelet
Thanks to rainbow feather existence, i think i will not farm those feathers 
I probably buy in event shop, but probably not gonna grind it
Stats are locked like type gear. Like bracelet boosts atk and def, you can’t get the same stat for all 3
Ooh ic
Guess they definitely didn't want ppl to end up with that kind of super boost

If rei akari event rerun, i can use rei feather on bracelet/pin next
240 attk or sp attk is game changing for sure
||at the end, it shows togepi horns moving behind one of the ruin rocks...volo incoming
||
Depends on feather type too. Like the pin can get every stats but low number
I guess i just gonna rely on rainbow feathers, other feathers have too much rng
Until we can farm them like cookies i won’t care too much about this. And the ever pin is expensive
For some odd reason u can't get attk or sp attk on 1 of the gear typing
feathers giving more rng?
Except rainbow feathers, its like guaranteed deluxe cookie
They're really unit-related, nice feathers to stack up since all this stuff is guaranteed
But those are not the "red" passives we got randomly on others
Are weaker versions but I guess we can start with those as base once we got enough pins
Btw we are getting 12 gears and feathers area for free
All we need are better feathers now and we can ignore the
trade area
And pins ofc
Kinda nice though as they kinda synergised well with each other for certain types, hard to get this by using RNG feathers need 6 pins for each gear
120 
in the nutshell
its not worth it
its basically another cs2 when maxed (with terms and conditions)
Yep, thats why i gave up my normal gear project after knowing rainbow feathers existence
Trading using
is such a scam 
Better to just collect rainbow feathers
Maybe if rei akari event rerun, i can use the same feather on other part next time
Rip for those who sacrificed exing units to get pin and gears🇫
People need to be patient and wait
Idt I will trade for these bcz I want to EX like 20 units rn and have… 10 powerups
13 w custom
I lost 20
for pin, nvm its for science 
Ye exactly what I said few days ago
Just let's see
Well can still use the pin for rainbow feather gear, after 6 pins, can roll for better stats
I think i'll stack for a while
But yeah if they rerun those events will be powerful
Even more when units themes overlaps like ssaCynthia and Rei
Yep, thats why i just gonna focus on rainbow feather
Well not just event rerun, if there's event with featured fighting or dark pair too, can get the feather and use on different part than Rei, akari gear parts
According to the research people it’s multiplicative to other stuff but yeah, still not gonna trade pus for the pins. I’ll let them passively stockpile from events and care about making a fav set or two later on.
I’m glad that we get the rainbow feathers as something to make use of while we are scaling up our resource stockpiles
Yep, i kinda like them as they are associated with feature pain in a special event...they feels like magma, aqua pin
Thus i named those gears Rei and Akari 
I still don't understand the whole thing lol
Same, the gear is still rlly confusing imo 
Alright chat I may need some grief counselling
25, 26, however many dailies it's been since Paulo banner, still no Tina
It's not looking good
Help convince me not to spend more than the last few dailies left on her
You’ve wasted almost a selects worth of gems for nothing
^
I would've called quits at 5
At this point I'd consider either to fully invest yourself ready to pity or give it up
A pity for tina? 
Cannot even select her on pity iirc, can only select 5* pairs
If she's fave
True
That's why khan went 3 pities for Rachel in 2021

How unlucky do u have to be to not get the unit w the highest rate in the banner? 
Ok well thats the featured but still
they r 4 stars who have a 5/10% chance
I mean he's not here anymore for a reason
Not a single copy
How is that possible. RNG I know but that’s incredible
They’re just insane at the game
It's so insane I'm not sure whether to class it as unlucky or lucky
We got blank gears, with 3 slots for themes, 3 for stats and 3 for additional effects
All those 9 things are given randomly by feathers
But we also have unique event feathers which have a guarantee outcome
Just think like lucky skills, we got cookies and guaranteed cookies (from LG)
Those guaranteed feathers we got from event are meant to work with their featured units
Im more confused abt the pins tbh
Pins are needed to lock any parameter
Hiya just remind yall that we have a guide on skill gears now: #1147355613198815352 message
Nice
Themes stats and effects?
Oh nice
The pin thing seems horrible, 2 months to be able to lock 1 whole gear 
Apparently they dont get recycled as well? If u remove it its gone
Yes, any parameter of the gear need to be locked one by one
If you reroll without locking those you want you're going to lose them
I still don't understand how it works because I haven't tried to make it work lol.
i wonder if save for potential OP unit or ||roll for zerena ||
Do you like any characters?
Here in chat, we suggest saving for favourites rather than meta as free units can clear most content
Besides, meta chasing is a great way to dry out gems
thats so true 
what if i have fun having meta units 😢
Then you will have pain
Almost every unit released nowadays is meta in some way
And the next one will out-do it lmao
The good news at least is that if you have a fave trainer, there's a good chance they'll be meta too lmao
well not necessarily, as i dont have the means of doing so (f2p) 😂
so at least i have some built in limit
I hope you like spreadsheets
would recommend doing a list
You're gonna need to be doing budgeting lol
u are not at a level where u can freely choose any unit every month unless u are like 300k+ gems
like a list of what units i plan to get, a priority list of sorts?
Ye
pirority list is bs imo
what list do you mean then?
just do a list of units that u really want love
...which is a priority list
no
theres a difference
pirority list have (low pirority and high pirority what not)
the one i recommend is either straight YES or dont bother putting in
i mean, can't I? i can prob go to pity on at least one unit a month, no?
no
I mean a binary choice of yes/no is still an assessment of your priorities
every month has less than. a pity
here we always assume u go to pity for a unit
Rule 1 of gacha: you will never be lucky
Any evidence that suggests otherwise is fake news
Plan accordingly
forgive my ignorance, but does the same logic not apply to favs?
Don’t get mad when you don’t get the unit when you’ve got less than pity
And then blame the game
never said i would 😂
my plans to go in expecting pity, but if i get sooner than that i’ll take it happily
Not you specifically but a lot of people do it
ah gotcha 🫡
yea first
just write a list
preferbly trainers that u love
and then we can filter from there
hm gotcha
pen and paper
i’ll be back 🫡
Yes it applies to any banner, but if you can focus on your faves you will have less temptation to do random pulls on other banners
If it so happens that 2 of your faves show up at the same time and you only have gems for 1...then I'm sorry 
ig this would be a list of mine
Can you try to reduce the size? Around 10 targets are perfect
The target count depends on how many of those they are missing
Usually < 5 reruns is ideal
ig Red, Steven, Blue, N, Cyrus, Cynthia, Calem (forgot to add him), Hau
tried narrowing it down as much as i could
hm
5?
uh
red, blue, steven, cynthia, N
Tbf some of them are gen pool, so if you don't count their alts you can just aim for base
Solid list of target
I will say that is a very intensive list of targets as they get a lot of alts
Yeah if you're satisfied with that
i mean in terms of blue im satisfied atm, i have 5/5 pidgeot and 1/5 NC blue atm
I did skip minor favs in favour of bigger favs
I'm skipping akari for volo/cogita
Save for those 5-6 faves alts if the alt is cool
Ash rerunning tho, close to 0 chance
seeing how they never even rerun Jessie/James on Ash's debut
could you drop the link for that? might wanna do that, would just be easier
My rerun list will probably include Fall Phoebe now
pikachu so low
I don’t want the Pikas really unless I have the gems
I might get rid of them altogether
too many pikas 
might see SST red and SSA Cynthia rerunning on dec
||I might go for SSA only depending on my gem situation||
i just realized, ||if v!kris reruns, my gems won't have definite 'goal' in terms of reruns
||
I think this month is proving that they are saving SSA and SST reruns for New Years
speaking of Variety... we dh any reruns yet
Just like 2nd anni trio at the start of this year
Oh yeah it was end Dec
next region NC should be happening on Nov or Dec
I think I will just save for a new meta instead of trying for zerena
It's fine

Dw nc silver is fake
i will roll if i like their kit
It’ll be kris lyra and gio
Ethan doesn’t get one cause he’s also fake
i dont think nc johto will be so soon
NC proton or bust
i hope NC Alola is good tho, as my Alola units are very weak esp the fact I skipped Alola VA entirely
(I didnt like all 4 kits of the Tapu units then)
Nc alola will skip selene and elio
NC Proton and Kartana because Rocket has access to UB iirc 
NC alola will be hau, acerola and lana

im coping hard right now

NC unova would give us Nate
Looks like vantner hacked someone’s account
i lowkey do not want all the Alola VA chars to be Alola NCs
How well did SS Hau sell again? IIRC he didn’t do all that good, so probably unlikely to be a NC
Doesn’t mean he won’t
Gladion def isn’t getting it
I'm pretty sure anyone who got an alt in Alola VA is out of the running for NC
True, only aether family without an alt. Nate also the only Unova protag without an alt.
Mina sold most out of the bunch
NC Gladion is big cope consider DeNA forgot he exists
Huh, I thought it was Acerola for the longest time

NC Diantha pls DeNa
Still nice that an underdog did well
Him, Flannery and Sycamore are the last of the Officially Popular™️ characters who do not have alts
Her release day was the biggest spike on sales iirc
But like they all were close on sales
Cope harder

Diantha is in jail

i keep forgetting rocket execs in fact do not count as popular 
Rocket execs didn’t do well cause variety and stuffing them all in a banner like it’s a seasonal rerun
0.4% rates will turn away many unless they are a big fan of TR
as in the characters themselves aren't really "popular"
they're popular in our hearts 😔
preach tai!!!
I feel this lol
i kinda feel that Variety probably is somewhat successful seeing that they got the balls to pull the stunt on the shitty rate on TR Variety banner
man its always a jumpscare when people don't know who the rocket execs are... i should learn to expect that
I don’t think we know exactly how much Variety banners make, but yeah
Or at least it’s because of DeNA following precedent for free seasonal rerun banners
Didn't ball guy have pretty good sales
They probs realised they can do whatever they want with variety banners after him
or they saw how dedicated rocket exec fans are and decided to make us suffer while making us believe they were doing a great thing 
sounds more like a punishment ngl
Variety was just an excuse to not give him a unique sync I think
I also feel like HS is just a way to make people regret for skipping out on variety units
we just wanted our years of exec-less torment to end 
Coz so far both eevees were excellent in HS
And they skipped out grass HS to shove fire type just to make people mald even more

i probably not gonna bother
lol
hit 180k is good enough
i somehow manage to make 10k this time round as well despite not even putting much effort
~~didn't even get any 4* PU tix if any1s wondering ~~
If it’s poison then uh, im not raising my strength.
Well poison's defensive spread is better than fire 
And lot of poison mons recently got ex
Also
We are getting lot of variety units as well
Which is inflating the limited units per patch
Like last month had like 10/11 limited units
This month it's 6
And we are getting less gems

also MF gifts changed 2x striker, 1x tech coin to 1 sprint coin, 1 field coin and 1 general coin
i wonder if they will start changing candy coin distribution from BP soon
General coin is way better 
yea
maybe next half anni or next anni
At best next chance is half anni and there's like 6 months so 

Starting with Calem?
yea
||need dissuading from pulling for akari, she’s really cute and i really like samurott but i need to save for the triple unova banner…||
|| The triple banner is a good deal compared to her
Also it will be near datamine and you can eventually check what's coming
There's always something better that why we do our proprity lists before units rerun or get released ||
Ye forgot the double
mmm yeah that’s true
||2.5x the rates for the triple banner, plus i’ve been wanting
for MUCH longer than akari||
Also one thing in my mind
|| if you liked PLA having no new gimmick for attack styles is a bit disappointing for the main protags ||
go for the bigger fave then... also remember we probably won't have enough field coins for a good amount of time...
so you will be stuck with a 1/5 lesser fave if u choose to go for the other
yea true
i like how DeNa started to tease
i gotta get him when he comes next month (maybe)
Nah next are Alolan NC
Lillie and Mallow 
technically missing 1 MF from hisui to form a MF trio from Hisui(although they have Sinnoh MF theme)
add Lana 👀
For the sake of my gems, hope 2 mf are enough 
Hoping they won't reach 3 new mfairs every 3 months
||I also need to be dissuaded from pulling for Akari (new Dark Zoner), except my target this month is Fall Roxanne||
|| read above for Akari
For Roxanne seasonal rates are meh and after one year you get everyone stuffed in one banner which is nice if you got almost none
If you are a lightspender (3k daily bundle) you can wait for a select by just avoiding daily pulls ||
Then i finally do HS for once
Though we barely have 15 Poison pairs, Jessie and James are excluded for obvious reasons. 16 Poison pairs probably won't do for a HS
How many did Electric have?
hm
Even fire isn't rly great tbf
We exactly have 5 units that can tank
And 2 of those are mid at that role
It's clearly them releasing HS rotations based on eeveelutions
Poison has offensive debuffs even on budget units
Kind of not liking their current business model
Too much variety units 
yeeaa
I hope they combine some of them then
Almost all typings are sitting at comfortable 15+ units iirc
So I doubt it's happening
Grass maybe, psychic has like 3 non limited supports, dark idk, ice has a few good damage dealers and supports 
Im prob going to have to off type, but I got the medal now so 
Fire supports are garbage defensively
Unless your ss morty
Yeah I mean based on the other eevee types
It's just SSmorty, Tina and evelyn
Poison has dpses
It's that they are limited
They'll do plumeria expansion before HS anyways
For fire limiteds I have ss morty ss hilda and ss red
Like how they buffed Hilda recently
Emma and ||I have not tried out Petrel yet|| I think Petrel are the best of them
No tina either, didnt get a chance to pull for her
Petrel sucks
ah
I just realized looker will be trash in HS
So it's just Emma that is the only hard hitter of Strikers
roxie was even worse in my experience
Looker doesn't either
I still need to do my Poison CS challenge
I have both 5/5 so
5/5 petrel? 

My dream
Looker and roxie
I've only recently tried out LMarnie for the first time, and it's hard to say on how I feel about her
since she certainly is a unit
We stopped getting good free dpses after free legendaries
Almost every free dps post arca blue is a 100 BP mid unit 
oh well, make much of what ya get
Hoping paldea gives free legendary that's not a 100 BP joke unit
If it's dps

Support it's fine, they are always workable
We get Hop 2.0
Is Ground the only sub 15 type
Well this month out put a great addition to it
It's not primal groudon
So still skip

I haven't rolled a new seasonal in like 2 years already
They all have shitty shelf life
Seasonals are my favorite alts in this game
And they aren't favs either
😭 i gotta take some of these off
And I love how less popular Hoenn characters got an opportunity to shine with seasonals this year
ya wanna chase for meta and faves? 
idkkkkk
That's an extremely big rerun list
Remove the "meta that you want" and "less favs but still meta"
also saying cblue as less meta 
Let's hope for a Brawly seasonal alt sometime in the future
Having a big rerun list can be a thorn in your foot tbh
If you have more than 5 rerun list
You are just saving for an entire year
And wouldn't even roll new unit

Also remove ash, that guy isn't rerunning


honestly
fire has shit supports
i dunno if this high score is gonna score high due to that
other than ss morty
best we got is Evelyn, SS Morty and uh
Not like electr had many without NC blue
I did 630 str without aoe def buffs
Thx to debuffers

Also 520 str with only -1 atk from terrify and no def buffs
Ok but what team
Heavy flinchers?
Full endure
Endure + unyielding + flinches and one of the 3 best hybrids in the game
Isn't irida just 40% flinch
I am using support one so 
Kek
Well it depends on how event goes
If I don't need lot of sun then flinch fuecoco might find usage
What's that?
my rerun list
Certainly way more manageable than your previous one, though the 4 MFs is a bit worrying
but it'll probably take some time between each of those reruns
yeah that was my logic mostly, more space in between means more gems i can use for new stuff
Only one I can think of that can be pain in the back would be SSA Cynthia and SST
Since they're both 3rd anni pairs so most likely they'll run together
thats def true, another thing being that calem's coming in a month too
so say they come in december
that would be rough
esp if i want the new MFs in december
I feel like cserena will rerun next month, since archie and maxie were back to back
Be prepared for december tho
yeah december might be rough
how many gems you got rn?
hoping i get calem early 🙏
Also as someone chasing reruns, its hard bcz there will be new pairs I like 
15k atm
steven, red, cynthia, blue (satisfied w blue units tho rn w NC blue and gen pool), N (not too interested in current units tho), calem, adaman
ah neat, with a small fave list like that, really wouldn't be too concerned despite being popular characters 
all for that I can say is, get a pity and pick and choose on who'd you want to go for if there's multiple faves in a month
4 of those are master fairs, so they could appear any month
well i mean calem's eliminated from that logic since hes coming next month
so we know he wont be coming for a bit after that
do you think we'll get cserena next month?
I think it's pretty plausible
hm okay
It would make the most sense
||opinons on if i should pull- i like Akari, and I really like HSamurott, but i have ccalem already + i havent saved and have basically been pulling pities for my last 4 pairs. Also given cserna is likely to come next month, i would really like to have a pity's worth by the end of her banner. opinion? also idk if im supposedd to spoiler this lol||
well i guess you can save for him first
yeah i def am, id appreciate having a top tier physical support and calem/greninja are cool
i tend to ignore stuff i'm not interested (which is everything in october), so i didn't notice hes available next month lol
||we always encourage making sure you can pity a banner and pulling for faves is absolutely valid. Can you pity her with the gems we're getting?||
her meaning Akari? no.
Well that makes it tough
And you plan on ||pulling on the potential Cerena rerun too?||
Tbf ||cerena should come on november 25 and lasts until december 25. Assuming you skip other pairs, you will definitely have a pity||
Yeah
Honestly I ||totally forgot about pity I shall skip Akari||
It sucks skipping a fave but sometimes it has to be done 
There’s always the other option
unfortunately id like to pay rent
Ye
Wait no 3900
3600 is correct
N- yep just realized
Hello guys, I have 18k paid gems.
NC Red & NC Leaf at 1/5
NC Blue at 2/5 + EX (got him from paid + pity)
I’m planning to get cake roll for NC Red and NC Leaf, and have the three of them to 3/5.
Worth it? Whats your advice guys? I’m a new player here, so have not much fancy roster.
They're perfectly fine without roll cakes
Cakes are the ultimate currency rn together with candies
So I'd be wary of just blasting them
I see. Thank you for the info. Is there any MF Johto / Hoenn coming up? If yes, i might save for them
You missed johto trio that was running until less than a month ago
Before them we had an Archie and Maxie rerun too
They'll come back thi
Tho
Eventually
Eh nvm. I forgot i got Lugia and Celebi 1/5, missed out on Suicune
I see. Hoenn MF is not Brendan/May?
Nope
Next MF will probably be either Sinnoh or Unova
or Alola
but Alola would be out of nowhere (NC?)
Sinnoh because we are likely to have Hisui arcs now
Unova because they like Unova and Dennis still has Reshiram
paldea beacuse
Paldea doesn't have enough units for EBE
though would be nice for more unova mf
i feel like mixing Hisui and Paldea story arcs at once would be weird
unless they just straight up connect them
I see. I played until ruby/sapphire, so im not rly familiar with Gen IV and beyond 😬
A fifth Sinnoh mf?
I hope not
they didn't split Sinnoh with Hisui precisely because then they dont need to print any non PF or lower units
and can just spam MF and PF
Idk, I'm expecting unova mf for winter and hisui for 4.5
I feel like they kept SSAC flag bearer bcz they planned to release adaman and irida who would take up the pride and spirit
Ssac had no reason to be spirit or pride
And also galar and kanto NCs being a whole trio they repeated flag bearer (and spirit for kanto), they have yet to make a MF for a region while all 3 passives r filled
Like, support MFs are most likely to be bearers
Because it's the most universal buff
Calem got pride just to mirror Serena's spirit
And because zygarde had bearer already
Yeah
Ssac being spirit or pride would've been extremely awkward
Especially since the other bearer back then was Cynthia again, with a unit that doesn't remotely synergize
Yeah, 2 opposite zone setters is usually a pretty bad team 
The only one that I think could work is ss diantha and ccalem but I still wouldnt
Hmmm I might be able to afford to find a fourth trainer to add to my fav list atp since they slowed down new units for my top three
Getting a bit low on missing poke favs so getting close to pure trainer territory
Right now n Serena and Lillie are my fav trainer list. Anyone got recommendations of trainers I maybe should research about to see if I like them sometime?
Cause atp I’m sorta just waiting for inevitable sv box legends and new alts to them once I get these last two n and Serena reruns
Thinking that I save for Red & Ash Pikachu, but any guess when is their rerun?
Red - maybe december around New Year
Ash... no idea if ever
they like to rerun most wanted stuff when new MF release to pressure people into buying gems
||someone please dissuade me from going for Akari, the character is so tempting||
Well, what ||dark type|| characters do you have?
NC Calem, Champ Serena
Because plenty of busted Dark damage dealers/utility already exist, like NCs Marnie and Calem, SS Cyrus, and obligatory SC Zinnia mention
Problem is Akari is a cool character
If you really like ||Akari, then why don't you want to pull?||
||SS Hilda banner exists||
That one is paid only I think
You already have calem who sets dark zone twice, and also sets rain, akari can only do one of those two things
|| I understand you, I'll skip her cause I can't form a pity ||
I hope to have a strong willpower and skip everything this month, I kinda need the break after anniversary 
Well not everything, still gonna grab lodge gio and poma day multis
when(if) we get Hisui general tickets she’ll definitely be one of the units
Unfortunately I don’t think PokeFairs are gonna be ever a part of ticket scouts
Let me hope lmao this is how I cope with not pulling her(but yeah prob)
Also hisui count as sinnoh here, if there's any general pool hisui, it will use sinnoh tickets
I wonder if ingo will be unova or sinnoh theme skill? 
would make sense if he was sinnoh
kimono grimsley is alola
from unova, residing in alola
ingo's from unova, residing in sinnoh
well hisui but yk sinnoh is hisui
Yep probably sinnoh for warden ingo
Hope the wardens are paired with the nobles and the ride pokemons
Oh nice
Now that adds SSHilbert to my list of temptations haha
Can you delete this image please? The first rule of this channel states that images referencing pulling is not allowed.
in the future please ask questions like this in #poma-questions
Yes I’m so sorry Annie and Tai I didn’t know
it's okay, now you do 
How do y’all cope with desire sensor? This month is a dozy and I need to stay committed to saving until SS Hilda banner comes
ADHD brain me does other stuff
Normally school distracts me but I have no school this week
So yeah keeping out has been hard
I’m currently watching anime :)
in all seriousness, close the game and distract yourself
get lost in another video game or website, etc
to me it's the most foolproof way
tldr: touch grass
Me spending all week doing just that
I’ve hiked about 40 miles this week
So yeah I prob need to close this game
damn that's impressive!
Touch grass not the 3,000 gems button 
Spend time in another gacha is what I did for half of anni
I need strong willpower, its saving month for PoMa and Honkai Star Rail 
Also ||volo tease at the end, helps me to resist, probably need a pity if he comes with origin giratina||
nah it's burghs togepi
Burgh Togepi wont make Cynthia's Giratina restless
Well can if it has 100% fissure rate
Metronome -> Fissure 
Well i still have lodge gio to work on and other 9 4* pairs so i think those can make me preoccupied a bit
Level 150 also helps me to resist but i already done 150 all of my faves
Same, used to play unite and cafe but got bored of those 2
He’ll be the new SS Leon
I got bored of Unite quickly once the whales learned to play
I quit like…. Around goodra’s release I think?
I started a year prior, cafe I started in december and quit same time as unite
Unite is bad now, too many mewtwos
Café never appealed to me
I played before and tried to get back into it but it gets boring fast
Idk why I played for so long
Id just lvl up pkmn to use up stamina faster
I got GO mostly because I go hiking too much
Go can be really casual. I play FF ever crisis too now so can save gems easily. Even the pity amount is similar
I cannot play FF ever crisis, square enix doesn't allow it to appear on my country's play store 
Yep im fully casual for GO now after they locked Keldeo behind special pass that needed real money to get
Also after free remote raid pass weekly is no longer a thing
planning to get back into GO, since I'm actually focusing on my physical health alot more now and ~~Geeta accessories ~~
Collecting zygarde cells can help make you sweat
Haven't had time to play Pomas, but I'm slowly getting back into it
|| Because Phoebe||
Not because of lodge gio?
Well him too
He is poison
Ye ye, finally redeems the unit that is SS Gio
I like fall seasonal this time, 2 characters that have 0 alt finally gets it...that is a win although i skip
though I don't really find Gio interesting as a character so I'm rather less enthusiastic for him than the other Poison units we've gotten recently
no where near as ecstatic as I was for Lodge Marnie since I got to finally get her after a year
even if I don't like Marnie
He makes setting up poison multipliers easier, poison tail he 4 and each time he gets hit got chance to poison too



