#Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)
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You can't say it's a working feature if 90% of combos are garbage because to apply to whole team they'd force bad synergies
30 days will give 6 of each cake coins, so 2 months already 12 coins...also you can buy 1 cake coin with 5 daily ticket so a month will give 6 cake coins via ticket...so less than 2 months if you focus on 1 role using daily ticket shop
great example. when cakes were announced, everyone was shouting about how unfair it is. but now? only a month after? its like a candy.
I was one of the few saying cakes weren't shit
Yes and the good part, each pair only need 1 not multiple like move candies
the thing is
They're a way to give whales something out of mf banners
we don't know how they'll handle skill gear
And to enhance passively pairs aside ex and grid
Does Ash really need a tech cake etc etc? It’s fluff. I am indifferent to the concept
*Red
it could be easily farmable to get more resources, it could be hell
Yeah but at its core, it's a cringe mechanic
there's really no saying how they'll do it. the RNG is really concerning though
It's a worse gacha inside a gacha
Just treat skill gear as endgame, the training area doesnt even open yet and the resources are still scarce...no use to be stressed about it now
Never said it works, I just told you to not rush conclusions spreading "it's a total useless tash" all the way
I would rather Dena invest resources in their stagnating game modes than these goofy mechanics
Give it a chance once the game keep working on it
I said "90% of skill gears combos are worse than type gear"
Lmao Why
You were the one blowing it out of proportion
im desensitized to this stuff in gachas so i dont know if i should really have a say 
Because 90% of combos will not apply to your whole teams
you have to roll for stats + the passives
You can be desensitized and still be upset
90% is generous
So in the end you'll lose most of the effects
Aside that on one pair
That's an overall loss
You'll need perfect combos to outperform type gear who gets halved on non fitting type
Especially since you can run monotype and stack even more
unless you use monotype or something, it's going to be hard to use skill gear to its full potential
You most likely load offensive gears to match your striker
If that gears works with its type, it gives more dmg speed and stats, 3 passives which maube one gives %dmg increase why would you throw it away
more as in, im so used to it i dont know when it goes from regular gacha stuff to actually bad
you miss out on buffs for your supports
You need the pins to lock the effects you wanted so around 6 pins for each gear...so just chill and wait for them to distribute more of those resources like the certificates...i even able to make 71 faves level 150 now, the certificates used to be hard to get
And i still have 20 certs in bag
skill gear is super high investment and okay-ish reward
by all accounts, IT IS A MIN-MAXING THING
Currently 3* type gear is +60+20 and +70+20
Currently, people are finding max hp is +100 and + offence is +80
While it's better, being it turned complete off results still in an overall loss
And once again
This isn't static
You can only lock 1 skill at time for 20 
You gotta roll stats and themes every time
Can anyone help to decide should I need to pull new upcoming unit or skip
It will be better, but only in a fringe scenario where you get
- perfect theme
- maxed stat
- good passive
On all 3 gears
Just want to tell, once locked you cannot unlock, if not you just wasted your pin 
Gem count yet?
You're fine for dark
Fighting...could be better
This too
its a min-maxing thing. it's only useful if you WANT to and HAVE the items to spend on it
Yeah it also really doesn't add much to the metagaming
its still useful yes
but only if you invest enough. and by enough, it can always just never be enough.
Depending on scenarios both LG and HS share a common interest in type and themes
Those gears gives 3 type/theme covering and a lot of stats each plus 3 passives each
You have more coverage by having the gear working on example Grass MC Villain rather than pure grass
Yeah half stats are something but the sum of possible stats and passives could be way higher
I locked because i already planned to make this set as normal gear in long game. So just chill and enjoy and complete your ideal gear slowly when the resources becomes easier over time
Again, I'll roll for them once they're common
But I just want to put in perspective how lucky you need to be to get a perfect skill gear
Also, if the % bonuses get diluted, 3+3+3% might end up getting down to an effective 4-5% tops
skill gear is a high risk thing. just be prepared to go through RNG hellfire
are the %s diluted?
We need testing
Would it be worth it for me to pull any of the new Hisui units?
But I'd wager that yeah they'd get diluted
Its just like deluxe cookies, i once not get any ww3 for months 
#poma-questions thing i think
if they get diluted... 
if they are diluted, do we have different "pools" of dmg buff in skill gear?
Thing is, the better the skill gear get, the more annoying it would be to get shafted by RNG on them, so it's a lose/lose scenario
if they are diluted and we don't 
In general this feels like a way to have whales spend their
on something aside 
And nothing else
Just focus on cake first, give double sync effect and good stats increase just like you have additional gear
cake > skill gear any day
Because you'll need a fuckload of resources to make more than one set anyway
Well except support pair that get tech cake...it feels like Why DeNa?
Precisely. They know where the money is. Which is why we get these unnecessary mechanics
Can't make supports too good
because DeNA supports my DPS Proton antics real 
ignore zero multipliers on his grid
Dawn ex tech role
Me rolling dupes to prevent stacking up on 1/5 techs 
Striker would be fine too
Also seems like there's some good news this datamine, spotlight pair can get cake role too
lenora gets it
They increased banner influx and are trying to reduce coin influx
Oh also the 3* 4* field tech candies pic
anyways, ill go 
More cakes less candy coins
It seems that all new pairs get ex roles
I expected every new unit to get role ex from Anni onwards
What is this timeline
Sure, all is up to resources dena will give us
Some ppl already got nice stuff and we barely had anything but bronze feathers
From datamine we got many type of feathers, slowly and with luck (yeah it's the most frustrating thing) we can probably build good stuff
It's just hard as start as any other stuff, 3* gears are still there if you don't like those anyway
Gacha timeline
Considering Lenora got role ex, all gen pools should eventually get em as well
So Gladion cake role is no longer hopium 

Now i just wait for legendary adventures cake role
DeNa: so anyway here's your sprint role ex
Giovanni with sprint or tech role ex 

Oooh I never thought this would be how they incentivize those reruns
Nidoking? Probably tech
I meant M2
They already have the powerboost tho
We already have the boosts though. Time for more
I will love if he gets tech/support
But anyways give me tech role hop 
Support seems nice for pairs that changes form that are not support
But field zinnia still wont activate her weather multipliers as its dragon zone
Give me Tech EX Cyrus
If she brings zone
I only have to bring weather
It's easier to deal with

Any other role wouldn't rly be as incentive for her
Support would be good too
Support seems not bad, boost draco meteor and dragon ascent damage
Well I don't run DA much anyways due to the stat drops
Don't want to remove dauntless for E9

Im happy with lodge Gio, finally i got 10 poison pairs...a step closer to 15 pairs for HS 
Man I don’t know whether I want to go for the new units or Classic Red lmao
Classic red does not exist
Lmao
the struggle of needing to save on a month that I like
||UnoVA ironically a good banner||
The struggle on wanting to save on my birth month
Definitely want Hilbert at some point though
Unova trio banner stay till next datamine
Just wait out for it
Redlax will get another banner anyways
Since he's dena's fav
1.5%
||fall caitlin has been at the top of my list, but a lot of these new pairs are catching my eye now too||
And you get:
Most powerfu' physical ice dps (kinda)
Great ice, fire, elrctric, water dps and a great bug pair
Best fire pair
for 1.5% at each
genuinely i think that’s one of the best banners they’ve ever released
||I been keeping an eye on Hilda and Hilbert for months.||
||might end up spending a pity even if i get hilda first multi, the potential for dupes is insane||
another month of Savings for me, so happy 
very glad there is no banner i want ||other than unoVA|| this month
maybe calem? probably not
and even then he releases like a day before datamine so
not much waiting involved there
Same. I’m very glad also. ||But as a Hilda and Hilbert fan, course they had to appear.||
thank you dena for giving me fallister last month
don’t gotta do a .5% banner for him
Why are we speaking in spoilers
||1/5 btw
||
I thought everyone hated ssn
Yea his nuke disrupts his rotation
He’s free after first roar
I was one of the few supporters
So you can definitely double damage dealer
It's not that people hate him
HIS KIT IS JUST CLUNKY
I like him a lot and 1/5 is fun AF
He’s really fun
yep
so that I dont get tempted to pull
but you don't wanna nuke with him
Free gauge, good debuffs, fun setup to turn denial with
You don't need shit
If you can clear CS then don't pull for shit you don't want
I'll 4/5 him eventually (EoS)
new so cant do that yet 
I'm surprised he even -2 intead of -1 like ???
Then i'd suggest you pull for MC and Cobalion which costs 0 gems
and costs 10 000 BP
Dana is even better for clearing CS
SEUP is free win
Also one of few accessible spdef buffers
- full restore and protect
yeah it is just I think I need more damage mons
and probably 1-2 supports
but I see people with lot of units everyone rich
dw you catch up, i only started this year
it gets easier as your gen pool roster builds up (use the tickets) and yeah sync grids too
3-4 star candies and powerups were quite useful at this stage for me
pairs like skyla are really good
Good supports>broken DPS
Any rumors on gem count
22-24k likely

We should have a pinned message that says "don't ask gem count until 24 hours have passed"
da fuq with just a will and 2500 points ?
Yeah he's really good
When will we get the 3k gems? Is it tmr or 29
29th
I think I can grind cs for more points but so lazy lol
Well if thats true someone should at me on the month they are rerunning ssa Cynthia
That's not happening very soon imho
5gb is a lot of space for a "game"
Maybe around January at best
4 years of updates do be heavy
I think like 300 animations take most space
It used to be easy to save but after 3 back to back pity am beginning to think 5gb is too much for a game i keep getting mad at
clemont grid expansion
i just ex'd him too
he can finally give himself spatk and crit
I've done 4 back to back pities
If you're getting pissed over saving it might be time to take a break
dayum yall had too much saved to go back to back pities
Pity can happen, thats why we save
He already could
Mud slap ramp up
Crit is fine but I hate grand entry
I feel like his expansion is pretty bad, he gets better set up and an upgrade to his moves/sync moves power but I think he’s more of a pair u use to support a damage dealer
Like why r u doing dmg w electroweb and parabolic charge 
BECAUSE I DRAIN TANK
Nah uh..
That's what I called him since two years ago
Not redlax
Sorry

I still believe in Ash rerun
Since NC Calem got this early
Wow
Ash never getting rerun
Too much hopium
Jessie and James sync grids w/ Ash Rerun 
Plus remember the last day on his battle? Silence.
Yeah... I was there
Gosh
one more question
did they remove the blissful bonanza?
I don't know when this happen since I left
Aight cool thanks
No blissful bonanza this month
And last one we got was like more than 2 months ago
So they probs canned it
He always runs at bad times, still dont have him 
But its cool that this one isnt a repeat of gauntlet 3
The gauntlet banners were quite meh before, nice to see they’ll have newer units in them
They just swapped regirock with registeel 
At least different, no overlaps, should be a fun LG
ugh
I wasnt rlly sure what it was I just assumed it was different cuz of registeel
But also I only go for 10, its the banners I care abt
Gem count out?
No
For those wondering
Absolutely didn't even put the whole datamine
The quest and missions are not out yet
So the gem count is impossinle to do currently
Offtype that much but how?
No it's ontype
He gets SEUP
And +2 Phys
Also irida synergizes pretty well because of high BP move + space in hisui buff and zone
I could do way more now
With SC Steven

We got count?
Once again, no.
Did I ask before 
Other people have
I understand that much
The last time was up there if you scroll just a little bit 
when're the next expected big save spots? ik its strange phrasing but i mean along the lines of like, whatre the upcoming big events to save up for, like half anni/anni, is there anything along that vein?
December usually has at least 1 new masterfair
Mostly feb-march got half anni
New year's has selects, 2 sets of seasonals AND often master fairs
what're selects?
Paid banners that give you a guaranteed unit in exchange 3-5k paid gems
oh ok nvm, im f2p
Then yeah save up for December and February
good thing the triple unova banner and NC calem come out around datamine, not sure if i should save or pull, considering i dont have too many premium units since i started on anni
Always save a pity
Then you can decide
Never pull with less than 36k
Every gem gone in banners you can't guarantee and that doesn't give you the unit is wasted unless you do it
oh yeah def ik the pity rule, its just a case of not sure on which banner is best to pull for, i dont rlly have a preference towards characters so that method is kinda not a thing, just looking for the best value or what characters are best for my box
I'm in the same boat.
There are 3 I want to pull lol but realistically only afford 1
And half lol
Triple fair with high value units is probably the best banner to toss gems in as a newbie, but the fairs need to be good
Master fairs are good to stack on gen pools
how would you say SS Hilda/Hilbert are at 1/5? don’t rlly care abt N cuz i have NC red (and the other NC kanto birds for that matter)
Ss Hilda is very straightforward, SS Hilbert covers 5 types well (even tho you have ice already covered)
SSN is good since I never liked Hala for Phys ice
Hala is weird to set up
I'd ask in #1006350210450079784 maybe btw
Because ybh
While those 3 are really good
There's always better on the horizon
Nothing matters in a gacha game
Faves matters
i dont have faves rlly 😦
How many raw
do we average a month without pulling? Anyone got any idea? Considering the new drain for tossing those at
Not a lot
Probably less than 10
Champ stadium is 1 so that is 4 a month. Exchange monthly needs lots of silvers to get 20 (no good if you are new)
24k gems including the rally
Oh sweet Jesus that is so bad
Where’d you find that? Did you count it yourself? Don’t see the pin or summary updated for that
(As in gem count)
Well it’s more than I expected personally
I was bracing for sub 20k lol
So mid 20s is fine to me
Even if it’s a tad low still
I've gotten to a point where I don't want to drop below two pities
Expected
That's as good as last year
With 1 fair and a spotlight converted to variety
So overall I call that a fine October option
same, but im gonna have to most likely. hoping november gems are higher than this rather than even lower
cause i really need gems to make up for the high chance theres gonna be a 2nd banner i have to chase in late nov 
apparently we get Acerola dupe this month btw, huh. according to what i just read in questions.
so i guess that means the poma shop dupes is every month, not just annis
i feel bad for the people who candied ace/rosa/calem/cheren, cause of the new trend
||Cerena?||
yup. ||high chance shes coming since calem coming this month||
(sorry if i forgot to turn off ping there, idk if i shift clicked or not that time, managing my tracker)
im really running out of gen pools to even aim for atm, lol.
0/5: Melony, Drasna, Olympia, Lenora
1/5: Dawn, Courtney
2/5: Colress, Looker, Ethan, Shauna
1/5 dawn 
yeah, dawns dodging me since 2nd anni

i think it was like... 3.5 anni or so that i finally got a single copy of her? idk when exactly it was
i just know it was a looong time
0/5- lenora, olympia, drasna
1/5- grimsley
2/5- courtney
3/5- melony, colress, lucian
4/5- ss misty, falkner, may, volkner, gordie
You know what that count is a little bit of a gut punch but not as bad as I was expecting, personally
im just glad that im gonna be done my high priority PF rerun list this month
and likely gonna be the same for my MF list next month
if all goes well I should be sitting near two pities going into November and should be fine for December
if i shaft twice, im prob gonna be creeping up on one pity in december i think. which, is a dangerous place to be at but it is what it is
im just glad that the target that comes sooner i have decent odds at exiting before pity. ||since 3way banners arent the worst thing in existence||
im just hoping november and december wont be gut punches like this and anni were

i just have one more month to survive after this if i wanna be done my rerun checklist other than SC Zinnia, if they dont bait and switch me... after that its new fav chasing again for the most part.
its gonna feel real nice to finally have a basically absent rerun list
I need next 2 months to be a skip tbh
i just need november to be a skip, december can have anything for all i care right now
if november is a skip excluding my rerun target, then im home free for december+ny probably
hopefully next couple months are skips, wanna save some gems for NY and 4.5
have NY units historically been good?
Nah, but between ny and Xmas there might be good stuff
Also late December has usually master fairs
oh ok so same thing p much, just swap the NY unit for wtv new master fair
Seasonals can be really good too
Hjasmine is a unit that will be relevant for long for example
Master fairs ofc are better tho, yea
Because 12% 5* rate
i mean im just aiming for units that are rlly good (also at 1/5) since f2p
What does f2p have to do with 1/5
I like to believe they mean they will pull 1 copy and call it quits
yup!
What
since im f2p, id prioritize getting separate units over dupes, which p much means once i get my desired unit i back out and save my gems
Instead of trying to pull 3/5 or pity, they will suffice with just 1 copy of whatever they get from the banner
Don’t ping me
having a bunch of good units at 1/5 is better than only a handfun at 3/5
ok dude, chill
sorry abt that
I thought alot of ppl did that tbh
The way you worded it made it sound like you can only get units 1/5 because you’re f2p
even spending money (not whale levels of course) it is difficult to get units to 3/5
I only do that anyways 🗿
Last time I pulled for dupes SSred was the newest unit. And i kept pulling past 5/5... because I didn't know better...
Mental Scar
Why would u pull past 5/5 
Because I didn't know better

I think at the time you get rewarded extra 5PU per copy too
Oh
I can't recall correctly but yeah fun times.
Actual return on investment
Ok that makes a bit of sense? Even without knowing better idk why u would try for 6/5+
I was on a break and my friend was like red is in the game now!
And I just dumped everything 
Now I know better but still broke after another Red, Ironically
Just woke up, the gem count already available?
Oh neat 2/3 pity
On a skip month
Gonna skip everything, and only pull poma day... although ||i did get tempted to get lodge steven, but after i think again, if bad luck, it will cost me pity||
So just gonna skip
Oh wow, next unova cs gives sprint coin
im a bit salty that fire HS has to be next, this is gonna be even worse than electric for tanks i think for people without limited units in the type
tbh
i don't care much about the sprint coin
i prefer the OG coins, more important for me right now
I agree, most of us have no sprint.
I feel this during electric, luckily i managed
At least i have 6 well invested faves for fire
Only 3 for electric
invested fire: anni n, kiawe, silver... cricket noises
As for me, I only have 1 fire fave. But seeing my roster, I can possibly get the rewards.
i find it rather funny, honestly, that the 3 most cracked types in the game, i am almost absent in limited pairs for.
I'll be fine with fire. Just wish they didn't run every other month
So no HSE every month?
I think it's fire this next month because it's the most units in a type after water and electric, basically I think after fire it's gonna be Grass type
It's HSE every 2 months basically
So 1 month yes, 1 month no
25 fire units, 24 grass units
I am betting Grass is next
we know its fire in november cause devletter
or did i misread your comment
Yes, it's fire in November
either way, im salty about them not giving us enough free tanks for this.
I am saying I am betting that the one after November will be grass
Same here honestly
god if its grass after fire then i am just
table flip moment
zero limited grass in my box
unless you count lgloria which i dont
Most likely, because it's more than all other typings by a bit.
24 Grass types
Then behind it is 21 Psychic and 21 ghosts I believe
20 Ice
19 flying 19 dragon
Shockingly we only got 14 fighting?
I gonna get stomped in fairy HS 
19 fairies, getting stomped in that myself
I think i got like 6 fairies out of all 19
LGio will be my 10th poison pair
I will like HS more if it doesn't need a whopping 180k for all rewards
Lower it so that i can comfortably put 1/2 offtype pairs
tbh 180k isn't a lot for us
it's gonna take 3 years to complete HS for all types
if this game even survives another 2.5 years
Wait till you find out how many limited units are there for Poison, Fairy and Ground hahaha
For fairy it's 11 out of 19 units
that's why it's fair to criticize Dena lately
we know where this is headed. wait till normal type lol
So let's say you got no limited fairy units, you can at max (given you got all the possible f2p units) only have 8 fairy types
After fire, the types that i already have 15 or more are grass, psychic, rock, ghost
Well Grass, Psychic and Ghost have a big roster
Talking about ghost, 2/5 acerola on poma day next month 
Extra copy for f2p 5*
How long did we need to live for that to finally happen.
it's gonna be like a year to get all the free units to 3/5?
Well there's only rosa, acerola, calem, cheren, iirc
16 months and they will be
source 
Luckily i control myself to not candying em especially when i joined and veterans said their acerola already 2/5 from past event...so i thought DeNa probably gonna do it again, just costs me a couple of years 👴
Oh that's why
I don't recall candying Acerola
But I know I candied Rosa
I thought I was tripping thinking Acerola was 2/5 from an event
Candy bp master pairs like me
a year between anniversaries are not enough to form 5 10k bp milestones to 3/5 the new bp pairs so need to candy some 
I need to see the amount of BP this month to estimate whether i need to use 1/2 support candies on them
Oh also need to save 1 rainbow ticket before anniversary
Gem breakdown out?
@stray steeple on reddit yeah apparently
not a day by day yet and such but, its something
Yes

Ouch.
The game sometimes has fun features but then the low gem count makes it suck
We have shiro’s count but not Tlim
Ah, that makes sense
Don’t think you’ll pin a Reddit thread lol
tlim did mention he'd be delayed 
october is always a fairly dry month
It’s around the same as last year
I mean we were already in the basement given August and September
But between the shitty rallies, the lazy sync pairs, variety scouts, and a pretty boring anni, it hasn’t been great personally
Last year was fun, 2nd anni was peak
it really is aggravating they keep going with these asset-reuse varieties
Like even the Lenora sync pair has a plain sync move animation
Yk if they arent going to give gems can the 50
be
instead 
It’s really easy to save gems when the game isn’t as great as before lol
Im rlly in need of PUs 
Oh lenora got generic sync move? Does she have max move or something?
Nah
Wow
Well at least its not variety
Also they keep pumping sprint and field on varieties, that also can be a factor to avoid that scout...oh 7.5k for guaranteed variety returned, thank god they didn't import rocket tiered system back
That rocket scout is horrendous
yeah it's horrid
I saw a lot of people pulling on it unfortunately. Nothing against it, faves are faves, but that might have brought in money
Still not sure why they do new seasonal scout tiered system on rocket
20+k paid in total
I will be more tempted if its 7.5k like ball guy/noland/thorton
Selects wiped out my paid stash so holding on for awhile
I gonna hold on till new year
like this is shaping to be the same with the other villain admins
New year got nice selects sometimes although its 5k each
5 pities to be used on one scout potentially? that ain't right ya know
Dena loves their patterns and the others will be offered this way
like i am curious what numbers cami comes up with when we get to december datamine, to see how many gems we get for 2023
Better hope they dont combine magma and aqua banner together...if not it will be 6 featured so worse than rocket 
Variety is just going to be another banner I wont pull on, sucks for those who do want to tho 
i mean, if you see your favs, you're gonna pull
the only admin i will pull on a variety would be matt
i am so thankful i don't have favs lol
I need to prepare myself, ultra recon squad/frontier brains/chatelaines have the chance to have my faves and they can be varieties
Same, I go for outfits or pokemon I like
24k gems is around last october, it's more of the optics between both years
Or for the oldtimers, our faves are mostly in and just waiting on alts for the most part
last year we were coming off the end of the Ash series so there was a lot of hype there with the 3 sync pairs
it was a lot easier to not worry about pulling personally because of the lack of "celebration" with the events lol
TBH rocket event was alright but for something as major as the end of VA it was a massive disappointment
so it was easy to save gems, and same for october personally
hold on.....
u dont have any faves this month
Yes

No Legendaries, Mythicals, UBs, Paradoxes
be happy you don't have to worry about those appearing every month lol
this was the skinniest september/august we've had in a long while
Month before anni is tame too, only victrier and he's free
so pardon me for being a bit peeved
August/september have beeg gems but this yr had smol gems so october with usually smol gems should’ve had beeg gems
Esp since content wise it doesnt seem to be dry, much more stuff than last yr imo
Does DeNa actually listen to our feedback
good question
they do when it's loud enough
Yep, October gems amount is like usual, but we feel the loss because 2 months before gives average gems
i remember they said about egg dex.....years ago
i mean, the free 5* pairs was from feedback
really?
yeah, im pretty sure people asked about these pairs on reddit
tbh I wish it wouldnt take 16 months to 5/5 but wtvr
it took them forever to implement something we have been complaining about for years though
oh...interesting
ever since the EX update
They still didn't do Oak EX, ive been writing about it in every survey
They shouldve given 1 dupe of each on poma day 
nah, gonna take 8 months to get them all 3/5 
the survey is a lie....just kidding....some of my suggestion are in the game....such as poison zone unit
won't even get 3/5 Calem for whenever Psychic HS appears 
15 months for the lodge frames assuming cheren is the last 1 in the line up 
Also Jessie James are not in Giovanni lodge topics, DeNa removing their existence
huh
Its not anime giovanni tho
well....it make sense
Well I am shocked lodge Giovanni is even a thing
Even he was shocked, trainer lodge is one of the bad topic for him
Im glad I dont have to EX someone else for their holo foil
why.....oh no
can't wait to see Silver among the choices for Giovanni interactions 
plushie giovanni???
Also the mewtwo frame is cool

Giovanni: I am here because my simps demanded me to be here
He probably break into it, to research on lodge stones
but anyways, going back slightly on topic, i'll be interested to see the coins for each role
I won't lie though, I am not a big fan of the new gears
I think they are a neat concept
who would want that???
if the strike/tech/support coin are decreased heavily
You’d be surprised.
I am as well
like the coin income is going to be pretty badly impacted going forward
so it's going to make yellows stupidly valuable now
there's more competition for coins now
nah uh.....i know...but what will be silver's reaction to this??
indirectly increasing the number of monthly coin bundles purchased
#poma-lounge message
and cakes could be used as replacement 
"calculated"
sorry
I just gonna treat em as endgame stuffs, just working on it slowly to make an improved normal type gear set
Giovanni selling plushies to fund his pasio takeover attempt 2
I mean I agree
the game doesn't even demand them. I just got stunned by the cost of the pins
alot of people dosent like the new skill gear
I plan to not touch them and use type gears
isnt really benefitcial
tbh, the skill gear is overrated
It costs powerups, 145 if u want to buy them all
Also you cannot unlock once you locked using pins, well you can but your pin goes poof
WOW....i rather use that to upgrade stats and recolor them lol
I just gonna focus on 1 set
Oh btw its 5 of each gear monthly (3 per piece) and 20 per pin (also 5)
i see.......................................................................really
It will be something if all 3 gears got the same option but it will be a loooong game
So 3% becomes 9%
So just relax and chill
Its rlly confusing rn for me and I want to EX quite alot of units rn, so im going to ignore them
Any free ones we get ill just store for now
Tho I used 1 feather each to just hv smth
I plan to just focus on 1 type, before doing another set for another type
So far i think normal need the most help even if they are already 3* normal gear later because everything not weak to normal
So i plan to my skill gear set for normal type
yea i figured it would
oof
Also the orange texts are the maximum value
Better just not use that expensive pin if its not orange text
Orange texts like these
I thought orange text was maximum
Yep maximum
Here
kind of pathetic that 3 and 4% are max value
Oh I read it as minimum mb 
honestly very much not looking forward to grinding out this gear
Its a long game, i need to get normal type on all 3 gears too
it seems like lucky skills but made so much more terrible
This is like the zombie factory in Frankenstein
Its lucky skills but gear
It's hard to get good and it doesn't work too well once done
Tbh it seems more like its for whales due to costing tons of 
i mean yea
that's what the last few updates have been
These pins are definitely for whales
If you got a passive you want in one of those, better you dont throw anymore feathers unless you already locked that one
Idt the whales r happy
I've got 300 of them. Should I give them to units or sink them into the new sync gear
why use skill gear when type gear is much more readily available and easier to understand

I mean, the master fair banner was proof enough lol
I mean if anything I am surprised it took THIS long
units
that's up to you
like I like EXing pairs to increase my ex count
eventually though
I imagine you run out of pairs to EX
don’t succumb to the new thing
I gotta max out Flying Gear first
getting a pair EXed is so much better than whatever skill gear does
Probably just grab the pin and bail, they limit the pin only 1 per month
Ngl feathers do seem like a good stamina dump if you need it
And you need 6 pins per gear
that's where I plan to dump my stamina
What are the costs to unlock something per feather
and eventually work towards gear
Maybe 5 if you can get the final one, and dont reset it using feathers again
stamina is also much more plentiful than 5* powerups 
Im trying to work on holo foils (2 left), limited units (3 left, one being cynthia so), and then music keys (I think 12-13?)
But then also future units
im focusing mainly on holo foils and new units/reruns I want to pull on
Im just spending it for skill spheres, I have everyone 140 or 150 so slowly working on those
u know me....i never upgrade my limited unit to 5/5
Lodge cheren soon, he is the only base 5* story pair that doesn't become lodge guest
Too bad no training rally anymore 
i don’t see why you wouldn’t
that hopium has to be as good as getting an actual unova masters fair

they removed that too?
theme skill orbs are plentiful enough
I also need to spend 380K Sync Orbs
I focus on new units I get but I try to max it out for everyone
well
I power up them, at least the types and regions as you usually make your teams based on those two
huh
buuuuut now they’re easy to get :beps
They still feel pretty bad to get, tho maybe its cuz im trying to max it for everyone
Anni N
only Anni N
ohhh
and tbh he's aged like milk
wow
It comes w bonanza so
Anni Steven aged like milk
his saving grace is he buffs speed
I would take them if I could, still 6 units to grid
he was spoiled rotten out the gate
The only one who's gotten better is Anni Lillie and that's due to zone
at least anni N had some time to shine
if you want a unovan fire type pair, wait until the 22nd
Anni steven also gets to free murder moltres
Just wondering would I be able to reach pity without buying anything??? Or would I have to buy something
I have 4k 
p sure you gotta pay
Why r u at 295 and dont have all the gifts…. 
Please tell me you are doing multies and not singles 💀
Bc I was stupid and did dailies. Not happening again
wait wait...i still think you got a chance
Yes don’t worry I am
you will be 3 x11 pulls and 2 300 pulls short
Even with October gems?
I just want 1 copy
Then u shouldve done 8 multis 
big mistake
so october gems you'll get 2 pulls
you'll still be 1 x11 and 2 normal pulls short
so roughly 3600 gems short before they poof
Either way uh ig wait for gem count, and dont do singles until u get to 396
i mean at that point do dailies and pray for dupes
I tried to talk you out of yoloing for SS Kris... and look where we are now
||Well I like excitement of yolos so yeah when this happened I realized maybe I should actually start saving||
Yep instant regret
Didn't you say you were willing to spend some cash?
If I’m able to get 3,600 more multi from daily I’ll get him
Ye but another game came out with a really good character so that’s why im asking
What game is it
Cookie Run Kingdom
Also if you are going to spend, check out #1010215980175208468 to find the best deal for your cash
The character is meta breaking
We have some bundles going on right now I assume
Ah ok I’ll check that out!
If I buy the 4k on October 1st then I’ll get him but I wanna see what happens first
||Who knows maybe I’ll get him while yoloing
||
With 10 pulls is what I meant
When the hisui update comes out I’ll be able to get 6k
pretty sure the anni gems are still in the shop
i wouldn't piddle around if they are
I don't play CRK but I know from gacha experience in this game that most characters are usable regardless of how meta breaking a pair is
they are going to leave soon
and you won't see another deal like those for a while
Ye good deal butttt reasons I can’t explain
mmk
So I have to go for 4k
well
best of luck
save better next time
oh and
if you haven't done so
start couch diving
If I buy the 4k then 100% get him
aka doing trainer meetups
Wut???
and then double check to make sure you didn't miss any of the hard modes
that's usually some places people miss
or forget
EX modes as well
since nobody does EX plaza
||But I used all the easy ones in my yolo for 3 years||

Did all that too.
whelp i gave my 2 cents
best of luck then
i get that the itch is tempting
but unless you're going the route of the sketch survey sites
for google play gems
afraid you are running low on options
and if you're apple you're in deeper trouble

Like I said if I buy the 4k I get him 100%
I’ll prob have too we only get ||2120|| more gems till end of red
let's talk rerun...besides red and ss hau and nc calem...who else gets rerun
has ss leon got rerun before?
nope
he's competing with SS leaf for longest time to rerun on a free/non-selector banner
what?????????🤯
mindblown
i think we got a world record for the longest non rerun
not a master fair of course
@mild spindle i will ping the encylopedia on this one
i am not sure tbh
or what the bot command is to pull that info
yea that's about right
🔘 <t:1631772000:D>
💰 (NY 2022) <t:1641016800:D>
1️⃣ <t:1645077600:D> (Double
)
2️⃣ <t:1648101600:D> (Triple 
)
3️⃣ <t:1655704800:D> (Triple 
)
💰 (NY 2023) <t:1672552800:D>
4️⃣ <t:1678773600:D> (Triple 
)
5️⃣ <t:1691820000:D> (Triple 
)
SS red and SS blue are in the same boat though
#1092823068256251945 ?
🔘 <t:1628748000:D>
💰 <t:1641016800:D> (New Years)
💰 <t:1646546400:D> (2.5 Anni)
💰 <t:1661752800:D> (3.0 Anni)
💰 <t:1693202400:D> (4.0 Anni - PF Scout x25 Select)
well i dont count ss leaf
yep premium only
🔘 <t:1598594400:D>
1️⃣ <t:1608184800:D> (Triple 
)
⭐ 72h New Players since <t:1627452000:D> (Triple 
)
2️⃣ <t:1642658400:D> (Triple 
)
3️⃣ <t:1658728800:D> (Triple
)
4️⃣ <t:1669269600:D> (Triple 
)
5️⃣ <t:1684389600:D> (Triple 
)
SS Leon ain't that great anymore
:warning: | No Sync Pairs found with specified name
i mean i like using him
🔘 <t:1598594400:D>
1️⃣ <t:1608184800:D> (Triple 
)
⭐ 72h New Players since <t:1627452000:D>: (Triple 
)
💰 (Anni 2021) <t:1630130400:D>
2️⃣ <t:1670565600:D>
(3) Unrivaled Outrage: Power +25
(3) Unrivaled Outrage: Power +25
(2) Unrivaled Outrage: Power +25
(2) Unrivaled Outrage: Power +25
(3) Unrivaled Outrage: Power +25
(3) Unrivaled Outrage: Power +25
(1) Dragon Claw: Move Gauge Refresh 3 - Has a chance (40%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when a move is successful.
(1) Now or Never!: MP Refresh 3 - Has a chance (40%) of restoring one MP of the user's move when that move is successful.
(1) Potion: MP Refresh 2 - Has a chance (30%) of restoring one MP of the user's move when that move is successful.
(2) Dragon Claw: Mad Strength 2 - Has a chance (30%) of raising the user's Attack by one stat rank when its attack move is successful.
(2) Hyper Beam: Move Gauge Refresh 4 - Has a chance (50%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when a move is successful.
(2) Now or Never!: Ramp Up 2 - Raises the user's Sp. Atk by 2 stat ranks when its move is successful.
(2) Potion: MP Refresh 2 - Has a chance (30%) of restoring one MP of the user's move when that move is successful.
(1) Natural Remedy - Removes all status conditions from the user the first time it is inflicted by any status condition each battle.
(2) Furious Brain - The more the user's Sp. Atk is raised, the more it powers up the user's moves.
(2) Quick Cure - Removes the confused, flinching, and trapped conditions from the user the first time they are inflicted each battle.
(2) Revenge Boost 3 - Has a chance (40%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when the user is hit by an attack move.
(2) Sharp Entry 1 - Raises the user's critical-hit rate by 1 stat rank when it enters a battle.
(3) Build Up - Applies the Critical Hit Next effect to the user after using its sync move.
(3) Burst In - Applies the Critical Hit Next effect to the user when it enters a battle.
(3) Critical Eye 1 - Raises the user's critical-hit rate by 1 stat rank when its move is successful.
(3) Haymaker - The more the user's Attack is raised, the more it powers up the user's sync move.
(3) Healthy Healing - Applies the Gradual Healing effect to the user when its HP is full when it enters a battle.
(3) Rejuvenate 6 - Charges the user's move gauge by 6 after using a sync move.
(3) Special Reserves 3 - Raises the user's Sp. Atk by 3 stat ranks the first time it is in a pinch each battle.
(4) Initial Injured Damage Guard - Applies the Damage Guard Next effect to the user the first time its HP drops to 60% or below each battle.
(4) Initial Injured Recovery - Restores the user's HP by approximately 40% of its maximum HP the first time its HP drops to 60% or below each battle.
(5) Initial Injured Ferocity - Raises the user's Attack and Sp. Atk by 6 stat ranks the first time its HP drops to 60% or below each battle.
(5) Injured Propulsion - Reduces the user's sync move countdown by 1 when its HP drops to 60% or below. This effect can activate only once per battle.
Why so few?
sort of an anomaly
she sadly needs to get another grid expansion to really fix her issues
which the biggest one being that she can't self buff
at all
like even if she could do crit
that would be enough
What does her TM do
That’s not the way cookie run runs
K just one question I’ll be getting around 8k gems before the event ends should I still buy the 4k or should I see if I can get the 1.8k for pity
Aoe team regen which was a big deal back in the day and sync cd
She honestly fits more of a sprint archetype by today’s standards
But she also has beastly stats
She was able to tank for a while back when supports were a bit more short in supply
still a good tank today! 
Where is gen breakdown?
There’s one ready in #1012256199128915968
The other, not yet.
crk has pvp
meta breaking = pull or go to Master V at best
Tlim if you read this know that I appreciate what you do and your health takes priority over the tally for me!
Do we really even have anything to determine whether exchanging for pins and skill gear in monthly exchange is worth it, so far?
I feel like they're too new to know
Ya I agree, I just been ignoring them and using typing gears instead.
That's probably smart
I admittedly already exchanged for a pin, because I have quite a few
, but for all I know, they're gonna come in so often and that's just really expensive
It's pretty bad at the moment, but we have to see what they do with the skill feathers
True
Ya, I rather save my
for units instead.
A part of me was like ... "What if they are that rare, though? Maybe I should exchange whenever I have the opportunity"
But then I thought about it. Even if they are that rare, the cost to afford them makes it so I doubt one would consistently afford them every month to the maximum, anyway
No matter how valuable something is, your ability to afford them is gonna be limited anyway. So it's best to steer on the side of caution by not buying 
Well there is an event tomorrow, we can see what that gives
That too
Ah right that.
I wish I came to this realisation before I exchanged 20
for a pin lmao
Ah well, won't hurt too much
🫡 Thanks, guys
Pins will become useful only once we get a decent influx of feathers yea
I grabbed the pin because its limited 1 monthly, but not the extra skill gears...just gonna slowly finish up this set to become my ideal Normal type gear
I dont see the need to drown myself with a bunch of skill gears, just gonna finish 1 bandanna, bracelet, pin first
And getting all normal type bonus
Got two days to figure out if this is worth is 
Need 6 pins to lock 1 gear, if its only 1 a month need 18 months for one set, i really hope its not 1 pin per month...give free pin a week or something 
i hear they are increasing the amount of
, is that true?
from where ?
somewhere in this server 
ah here
Don't think so
Sure since last year
are more generous
Lodge is giving a lot of 
Do we know if we'll get seasonal exploration area?
yes we will
If I have 23k now and I want to pull SS Hilda. CCalem. I prob shouldn't pull any of the Hsui banners right?

Glad you seem okay Tlim
The dedication. Thank you.
thanks for the hard work, Tlim 
does anyone have shiro's count
Not a bad gemcount for post-anniv 
A typical October, which is nice
Good lord I hope you're okay 😭 don't worry about the gem count your health takes priority!!
Thanks for the work guys.
So I guess the math works out to only work for me on free gems - if I get lucky on SS Hilda pull under 4 multi 😂 I still have a pity for Calem
Especially since pair count towards last year is same, only 1 fair and spotlight are instead variety
What would Blissfull Bonanza add?
1200? Iirc
+1200
alot of sprint coins this time
(bcos CS is giving them)
Damn, I wonder why they killed the event, doesn’t seem like that much
to nerf gem count
I guess that overtime it stacks, still like 1 multi every three months lol
oh goodie now cs goves sprint cpins
Hoo boy
OVERALL TALLY FOR V2.37 (29 September - 29 October)
Gems = 24510
Strike Candy Coin = 7
Tech Candy Coin = 9
Support Candy Coin = 11
Sprint Candy Coin = 7
Field Candy Coin = 3
Move Candy Coin = 3
Strike Roll Cake Coin = 7
Tech Roll Cake Coin = 8
Support Roll Cake Coin = 7
Sprint Roll Cake Coin = 7
Field Roll Cake Coin = 7
5⭐ Power-up = 11
BP = +3020 (tally is at 1610, R9)
General Scout Tickets = 127
Kanto Tickets = 4
Johto Tickets = 5
Hoenn Tickets = 35
Sinnoh Tickets = 35
Unova Tickets = 87
Kalos Tickets = 5
Alola Tickets = 2
Galar Tickets = 0
Daily Gem Count Breakdown from 29 September 2023 - 29 October 2023
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893411915638923264/1156875143210090547/Screenshot-2023-09-28-at-43130-P.jpeg?ex=65168f6f&is=65153def&hm=d03a997f66e510cc5bf33a7c8ca4d455158b8f609b0001f8ff118efdc06be9b5&
Daily Gem Count & Gems Left Till 29 October 2023
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@lofty relic
oh ok will ping tai next time
thank you for your work Tlim
That will be gone soon enough
oh it is due to rally the count is a bit okau
sorry bestie i was out
thank you very much for the breakdown Tlim!
tlim to the rescue
dang only 3 field coins
Only 7 strike coins? Oof, im at 14/20
atleast I can still 3/5 zerena this month just need some time 
the tally doesnt count BP and Lodge rewards tho
Oh yeah right, so I can get one from gio
It does include BP tho
But could be different for me, I forgot what im at
Wow the amount of move coins are quite nice
Wait I thought this month was a 5 week CS? Why do we only get 4 sprint coins
Its 7 in the pins
Maybe 41, assuming its actually supposed to be 8 sprint
the amount of pairs you have to candy too 
Not if its skip month like me 
True 
Actually idk if I want to candy anyone else, besides the 1 strike candy I can form this month I have enough candies but I just need to get the units on rerun now 
No one really, my rerun list is basically empty now. For new alts though I want Serena, Marnie, Korrina, Irida, Gloria alts...
7 for this update bc unova cs spans 5 wks so the last wk of unova cs is in the next update
Ah I see
But if u want to count sprint coins its 8 if u include all 5 wks of unova cs
Well we have LG….
I guess cs next mth would be field coins
Good that they are adding them into cs rotations
Now pls add them into BP
Glad to see the original 3 r still abt the same I think?
Decreased on average but wtv
We need sprint and field anw
They threw alot into support for some reason
Oh, I thought its usually 7-11?
Oh 
Wow I barely form a strike candy this month. Oh well. I’m glad that support has a lot this month cause I’m out of it right now
Hope we get more 4* tech candy this month so I can feed my lodge N soon though
From what I saw
3 star: 2, 1, 3
4 star: 4, 1, 1
In order of strike tech support 



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