#Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)
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So possibly June… Summer is July right?
i think alola VA might likely get neo champs
unless they make elio selene fairs for it
they really need an alt
and this is the perfect occasion
Unless they decide to pull a VA and make a Neo Champion event next month instead
10k gems down, another 10k to go for this month. :3
We've already been through 2 months so Alola VA is scheduled for next month
Would be weird if they pull a 3 month wait
One of the signs is paulo interlude, we got it this month so VA will probably be next month.
Need to save a pity for Paulo Hoopa Unbound pair 
Have fun with Paulo
First time over 60k

Yeah alola VA should be next moth. At the same month last year we got the johto VA
There is tapping Daily Scout then swiping right, as I said. But there’s also this: You know that event banner looking thing on the top of the screen at the PokéCenter?
They don't release VA month during anniv right? I wonder when they will release galar VA
Nah, have not seen that
I believe we gotten hoenn VA BEFORE 3.0 anniversary.
It was right before, yes.
Kanto happened during, or more like, second half of September, but it was the first after all
But will have to wait and see which month the last VA be at.
~~Paldea
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Ah hisui. ||So I can pull for hisui Zoroark||
You are right
Give me enamorus DeNa 
||LuSSa and some of the other master fairs are coming at me thought
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I think everyone should assume next month is Alola VA
Why would they do Lusamine rerun and Paulo interlude if it wasn'tM
||Personally since im going for SS Lusa im hoping there is a unit that can reliably debuff accuracy for her||
Because I knew it was already time for another VA.
If I remember correctly, last year we had a Paulo interlude and SS Morty at the same month, then it became Johto VA, so, I think I can see the same thing happening also next month.
I hope they extend the VA to be 2 months so May+June like Johto VA...ssgio in first month (also ssmorty eventhough he doesn't relate much but he did appeared in the VA) and Johtrio MF on month after ...well more faves but also more time to save gems as there's 2 months
I hope so too. Johto got a much needed jolt from the extension, and Alola kinda needs one too
Wew luckily i checked my game, i almost forgot to do daily pasio eggsplorers egg event...almost missed 30 gems
2 month Alola VA to make saving gems easier 👀
Sometimes I forget how fast and many gems we're getting.
I was basically at nil ||(sarcastic thank you galar champions taking me to pity)|| at the start of the month and now almost 2 weeks later I almost have 10k already.
|| if we get zeraora maybe ill pull, if not idk if ill pull for any of the missing legendaries/mythicals from alola, still have to go for lussa anyway ||
DeNA is too generous
||They should be more like Niantic for PoGo]||
Don't let DeNA see this hissss
I agree, let’s not.

I feel that we have a kinda low gem count this month ngl
Next month we are playing with an assumption we have Alola VA, take it or leave it.
These months usually have high gem counts and great units
Ya Alola VA gonna help May gem count due to rallies.
Might take me to 3 pities, that if the 28th april Golden week unit aint a fave 
It’s just that we got high gem months for several months in a row
This is fairly normal
How many Gems til Detective Steven's banner ends?
10k
You can use /gems command in #bot-zone
Or /banners command
whenever i feel depressed and pathetic, I always look forward to save gems and other resources to find any sort of self-worth
an to grab whoever i like or skip who ever i like as well
oh i see thanks
I wish i could only care about favs, but all i can see is numbers and the hopium of dmg calcs
and the absolute desired to be the absolute best gem saver in the community
does pokemas gamepress
not have pull simulators
surprising
usually bad luck on simulators snap me out of the desire
91k gems today
still many more unclaimed gems from missions
Also im happy that i have 16 4 * strike, 2 4 * tech and 2 4 * support candies...so I'm set for next month's lodge guest...hope its a spotlight guest 
also I've come to realize
I actually like this zinnia
just this zinnia
I still somewhat dislike her ORAS incarnation (great potential, what on earth is that execution)
but this one? she has a fun pizzazz
There is a pull simulator. I forgot the link but it exists on gamepress
Dammit Phantom Thief Zinnia has more drip than I thought
Still gonna wait until datamine
||took me 18k gems, but I'm happy with this incarnation of zinnia||
I hope alola VA gives a lot of gems
I still have 95% of one pity anyways
so if alola VA releases 4 favs I can get at least two before Alola VA ends
||that's not bad cmon, could've been way worse||
||pulled sc zinnia with only 300 paid gem, the tiered pull||
And you still got a massive gem pool of over 500k😆
Real issue is no tech coins🙄
||i would have been real salty if i had to pity marnie and then this zinnia came||
Redacted or not

I've been away from it for more than a month 
I need 9k gems to get 6 digits 
Y'all need gem jesus
Yep 91,025
are not enough 
Gem check: 168k. Next milestone, five pities for that sweet sweet screenshot 
man when they gonna rerun the TR duo.... 
Never

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Every time I see jessie and james I get reminded I don't have them and cry inside
same
Yall not missing much
This is why I'm hoping for an alola va MF
That would give enough silver power ups
I still need to 5 * 33 units, well 36 if i got jessie, james, lsteven 

Another day another k
looks like most of the gems this month are out... we are left with <10k gems for the 2nd half of the month
gonna be a rather dry period until next mine
i heard there was going to be a lusamine MF rerun, but also, i found that ss brendan and may are good. so which one should i pursue?
and ofc im going to skip zinnia
#poma-lounge will be a better place to ask for such stuffs
#poma-questions is a better place to ask
my bad
here is more of a place to seek advice on why should u skip xxx banner and save for favs
If they release colress alt for alola VA I'll save for alola VA
I'm skipping every april banner, saving Xmas Whitney
or for awesome banners
At least manage to 32600 k gmes
You mean 36,600? Sorry pity is higher haha
I think they’re just saying their current total
Will the upcoming SC banner have all units in one banner?
More like 5 months and a half
No nvm
4 and 1/2
only the Tea Party set is in
All tea party units in a single banner?
from the Zinnia pull moment on, I'll skip every April Banner.
Saving for next year's Case SC rerun
Yeah me too haha. All 4 are at least decent but I can survive without any right now. Nest for rerun combo
Wonder if my saving habit will go bad after ss lusamine
she comes so late i wont recommend anyone to pull her before the next update
Spending on anything besides MF if you are under 100k could be called "going bad"
Just don't spend EVER. Ask Jass
Spend on faves
MFs aren't all there is in the game 
we get new MFs every couple months i tire of the "pull MFs and only MFs" mentality
Sure but in terms of rerun efficiency it is better than rest
Every other type can be had in split banners on rerun eventually
What is the possibility of a new unit with lower pull rates than MF
MFs rerun now too, and there are PFs that have gone longer without a free rerun than ss lusamine
Close to none
Eh? "Better pull this rare unit you don't care about than pull a more common unit you want"?
Since we get a MF once a month
ss leon and celesa still havent had a free rerun
Which is messed up
so save for the characters/pokemon you like and dont miss out on faves if you have the resources for them
instead of trying to be "efficient" and get them cheaper on rerun
I work under the assumption people pull their favorites regardless of advice. We can't guess each person's favorite
sure
Banners are worth only if you like the featured in most cases
Why skip something you like unless you're expecting it to be in a better banner (which MFs never get anyway)
Mfs are easy skip if you're mid/low on gem count if you fear more important faves coming
I hesitate bringing up faves in here because alot of gacha addicts seem to call 25% of the roster "faves"
There's a tradition of making short fave lists in here - or at least ranking your faves if the list is too long
I pulled 3 of 4 units in the Wonderland SC last year, so dupes only isn't really worth to me for quad banner. So I am learning my lesson and skipping entire Solve the Case and hopefully have a pity to dedicate next time it comes as a quad
I like the events better when there is 1 must pull and the rest are mediocre so I don't have to wait haha
Hope it doesn't go to 1/5 0/5 0/5 0/5 pity like someone I know
That's the risk of quad
The odds of that are like 7% if you treat it like a single 2% unit? Obviously 4 separate 0.5% I'd probably a bit less odds
The issue if getting only one unit multiple times too
Are the quad seasonal paid tiered 10k or 20k?
10k
What are you saving for, by the way? Some specific units or just "meta"?
@drowsy saddle I collect all MF as first priority. And yeah usually meta mechanics like zone, etc are a priority too. But at this point I only need stuff like ice that is hurting for everybody, trying to just skip everything else until triple banners start giving me better bang for my buck
it's the equivalent of shiny tatsugiri hunting on casserolag lake but with gems you saved for months

Gem count, quickly back from the dead BUT I HAVE REACHED 3 PITIES
It do be like that
Pokewars rerun for me was 4/5 and 5/5 jasmine and a single diantha
In a pity
||galar birds took me to pity 2 times too, with Bede coming at 300/400||
Saving is exactly for this
As much as I want UBs next month, I really wanna keep my gems
Always need to be ready at worst case scenario
I try not to give candies to 3/5 something that might end up in split banners later, though it can be unavoidable for PF when you can't plan how they mix them
I guess that's true
most of my "I want to candy units" will probably run in solo banners though
Wait, but aren't your odds of getting multiple different featured units lower in 4x banners? Since if you get one, the rate of getting new featured drops to 1.5%, then 1%, as opposed to steady 2% of solo banners.
True I guess but dupes of other seasonals below 3/5 aren't useless. And you are also presumably committing to a pity in a quad banner
Dupes can be gained on solo banners as well.
And how bad should your luck be for pity - one unit - to make a big difference? If you're counting on that, you might not want to scout in the first place.
Again it only makes sense if you value all of them relatively equally
Equally and moderately
Yeah for solo banners I don't go for dupes past 1/5 unless I'm close to pity, which sadly never happens
Do you value a new unit and a dupe equally too? 'Cause that's what you're getting
Getting a new unit in such a banner swaps "new" and "dupe". So you go further with lower odds, lower standards
You talk as if bad luck doesn't exist if you are trying to argue solo zeasonal banners over combined ones lol. Obviously if you only like 1 or 2 of the 4 you should not go for combined
Bad luck exists, sure, but if you go in relying on bad luck for it to seem worth, should you go in at all?
That's like saying you shouldn't bother waiting to have a pity for any banner
If you think you shouldn't plan for bad luck
Mm, no, not exactly what I'm referring to
If you somehow valued 4 seasonals equally and wanted them all, on average you would spend less gems with a quad banner than doing solo banners 1 at a time, mostly thanks to the pity letting you pick whatever you don't have yet
Have you done the calcs?
Isn't the quad banner seasonal rate just 0.5x4.....how is that any different from solo 2% rate?
It's not as easy as getting pity - simply because you lower odds by getting a new unit
I've only seen good rates for multiple PFs in same banner
Seasonals always looked like baits
Your 2% goes to 1.5% if you want to get new units after getting one already
Considering you need on average 15k for a 2% unit, that is like saying you need 60k of gems to get all 4. With solo banners you wouldn't be getting a pity to help. So question is would you get 3 of the 4 by the time 60k comes? Having 2nd pity as fallback for bad luck seems safer to me
That's double and triple banners. 4x pokefairs also get 0.5% rates
Oh
I've never seen 4x PF banners 
Did we have any recently?
All I remember are triple and duo banners
Not recently, no
Actually I'd take back that 15k average for a new unit. 15k is only 67% chance to get a unit. So stringing 4 together only would get you 3 units for 60k. At that point better to have quad banner pity helping you
I wish I could get the rate up at 15k gems itself 
You do have the numbers for solo banners, but not for 4x banner. Seems a bit complex with variable odds - the more you get early on, the lower the chance.
Imagine going for this case sc rerun next year for Steven, Shauna and zinnia and getting 2-3 lyras and having to pity one of 3
Yeah I mean it is possible
And exactly why I say it isn't a great option if you don't see all 4 having value
All I'm saying is 73.2k gems is highly ljkely to get you all 4 unique units thanks to 2 pities, while stringing solo banners hoping not to need a pity is unlikely to beat that number
Not to mention you are probably getting limited dupes along the way that you wouldn't with string of solo banners
Odds of getting dupes are the same as getting new units in solo banners, so that's not a factor.
As for the main case, it does seem like 4x banners may be better for going for four units at a time, unless the changing odds go low enough to lose to solo banners. Too bad it's not as easy to calc to make sure.
I wish they would stop being cheap and make quad reruns 0.75% or 1% x4.
If they can do triples at 1.5% x3 they have no excuse for seasonals
i'm currently right now in a vulnerable state right to pull for my fav right now
but i'm doing my absolute best to curb that temptation by playing it quickly for dallies and throwing my phone away for the day and do other hobbies
depending on the hemisphere you're in, it's a good time to touch grass enjoy the great outdoors and what not. so don't have to think about the game as much and get tempted
in my area, its summer today for the weather
so yeah, I'm going to go out a bit to take a fresh air
and not look at toxic social media for a while
You got as far as you did once, you can do it again! 
R u saving up to a certain amount of gems rn or?
I got details and if his story of having 369k gems and Steven being a top 3 favorite trainer are legit, I think there is 1 clear choice
i'm more or less hoping for another daily pull luck for SC Steven first
500k gems is my ultimate goal right now, but its going to be on my secondary objective for a while
not until September
did a ranking of which units i'd like to have if they ever rerun
Wait can i have a link to that tiermaker?
Why Ball Guy so deep down?
What did he do to you
just do not care in the slightest for him
his joke died the second sword and shield hit shelves
and he's honestly kinda creepy
Where is a potential Raihan alt
instant pull
but i already got flyhan last month 
i just put every unit i didn't already have on the list
No big gems till 20th reset 

Going to start saving for lussa now
(even tho there’s 3 multis left this month) || had to skip lucas red and brendos in these past 2 months but its ok ig
ive heard MCs rerun often or smth? ||
Saving gems until I hit pity for SS Lusamine wish me luck gamers
The impulse to not pull on SC Lyra will be tough when I have the 3 other ones and the temptation to complete the set is… well tempting.
But I don’t care for her kit at all so I should be aight
No reason to complete it since poma is just team of 3 and if u dont like her anyway
Yeah true
We used to have reason to pull many variations of characters before this as the same trainer cannot be in the same team...but now that DeNa removes it, it becomes even easier to skip
Great point - you can't use them all together
This is what stopped my desire to pull on Zinnia and Lyra ||as I have Steven and Shauna||
I loved the event a LOT, but that's not a reason to pull
Yep i like the event and outfits but i dislike normal pokemons so i skipped it, pretty sure i need gems as there's a bunch of unreleased legendaries/mythicals/UBs/paradoxes
sc event having no hard challenge like extreme battles does help to skip them even more if you don't need them
100K gems! 
nice!
Nice, i still 92k gems 
You'll have 100k by end of the month or just under, no sweat
Whereas 99% of us still reaching for 1 pity😅
Having 1 pity and no fave character in sight is slightly torturing me

Logically I know my faves will come on Alola VA one way or another
you'll get used to it 
I always keep at least a pity in the case of a potential fave drop
and before I know it, I've built the self restraint to not pull
Yus
Sometimes you can give up and DeNA somehow drops a fave literally next month after you give up 
DeNA was playing a game with me I swear
Getting 3 Johto Master fairs in one datamine 
I'm neutral to all regions but a sucker to those with kits that interest me or fit my gameplay style
Me whining about no Kalos and then getting hit with three straight months of it

You never know when the faves will come....
Desire sensor is a fickle one.
Although it feels dry when its no faves month for me but i kinda grateful, its rare for me to get a break... usually they will throw at least 1 legendary/mythical/UB per month. 
Your gems will reach 0 next month
introduce a squad of UB
Definitely electric cat and robot rabit will come
(I forgot the name
)
same
My gems is building up
You gonna be mine lilie
although she will have robot rabit tho... Steel type... Too much already
I dunno who she will pair with... She has like 3 pokemon in main game only
I hope the bundle of wires or electric chicken that comes instead...electric cat looks like a physical electric damage and similar like N zekrom 
Special electric would be nice against sentryx2 aaron 
Elec type,steel type and fairy type greatly welcome as long as they have kits I like and are not paulo

I will grab paulo if he is with hoopa unbound, hope his sync pair also retains the dark shadowy aura 
Plasma fist definitely 4 gauge move
Electric wish that cast electric terrain, just like annimay 

Waiting for water wish that casts rain 
good luck selling that
I hope that chicken and the gang have terrain shenanigans
I wonder kukui or masked royal will have electric chicken
So like ny volkner?
Masked royal alt, that wears tapu koko's alike mask 

If they decide to follow tapu bulu in la
Masked royal new outfit is new boxer? 
Altho that 1 seems pretty broken, terrain with entry and terrain with sync
Seeing tapu bulu in LA gave me premonition that 1 of the tapus will go to MC 
Hope so
If they still follow 1 MC, 1 Chatelaine for this anniv
I still wait to complete 4 sister of battle frontier
I almost complete Mesprit...will be a while before i have enough support candies for next batch of bp master units

Nice
Still in candy crisis
Next anni i will have 1 spare ticket to move up a bp master unit
Haha dont follow my example, i candy them because they are faves and not many legendaries, mythicals, UBs that are supports...so prioritise other faves first for you all 
Even lodge chars that are way newer got ex as well
Bugsy randomly has ex tho
Although it might not change much for most, as i fixed their lack of support
by pairing them with same type faves that benefit from first sync like mega evolution units or those that changes form...well it will help my Mesprit though because it has synchro healing in base passive. For others, i need to dump other good grids if i want to put synchro healing
expect a rerun
Same tho i mostly use evelyn for shady giovani
Another day another k
60k gems for my first time
made it to 100k combined gems!
Does any of y'all have a 2nd account here ?
Boo 2nd accounts!
I used to have it
For a couple months
When I had severe pull urges I'd take them out on that account
But after couple months the time requested to keep up the gem grind became too annoying so I deleted it
Have 2 account is pretty weird... If you get a unit in alt account it feel like watching pm-gatcha 
The amount of pull luck shenanigans i get on my alt is crazy
Can't spell salt without alt
Yeah pulling it on a 2nd isn't going to feel as good so why bother
it was mostly to pull on stuff i didn't care about in dead months
it's wasted gems but on an account that will die anyway
Not really for long, only time I make one is to test a certain unit I won't get to see how they worked, though I do it less nowadays because they removed the tutorial skip 
Damn i thought i was crazy when i remembered that when i started my main account that i skipped tutorial
So when i did my an account for someone that i had to play the tutorial
Yea, it's pretty lengthy if people want to reroll
Apparently they’re hiding gems from you in the eggsplorers event (a stage is at the bottom), so make sure to do it
Ya, I believe the daily shows a red exclamation mark.
Don't see it
Oh wait I didn’t read that message correctly
But ya, what hidden gems? The only gems I know about the event is the daily egg hunt ones
why the heck do you still have those in your box?
Because the new egg event happened right after the last one!
well, then claim them already, if you care enough that is...
But ya I also checked the 1st stage at the very bottom.
there aren't any hidden gems, it's just likely some stage/story bit they forgot to do...
Oh.
that one scene that plays to introduce the event is my guess, because it's not tied to the others
so it gets pushed to the bottom if you don't do it right away
Ohhh.
This is what i meant
Ya I understand now.
I was reading the message like I thought there was extra gems in the 1st event and not only the completion gems. Whoops.
Delaying the claim means you can get more eggs out of each egg event 
I mean, sure, but that doesn't accomplish anything if you let them expire...
Of course, but another egg event followed immediately, so that’s prob why it got pushed forward so much
🥚
gain from Zinnia events: 40
Probably my final gem update. ||10 pities,|| which is more than I need to guarantee my favs and has been for a lil while now.
Haven’t been absolutely perfect with maximising gems in my time playing, but damn near. I haven’t played even 2 years, I didn’t dodge every banner, and hardly dipped into paid gems for anything. Point is: this game is insanely kind on anyone who puts in some of the effort to save gems.
This wasn’t a goal, but guess I got here anyway
I definitely won’t have any other gem goals from here on, though 
Huge, the boost to vouchers with these reruns make it so easy to farm
I feel like I only noticed the increase this time around lol, idk if they’ve been giving out that many for a while now
Woah that's a ton 
Congrats!!
congrats!!
I'm almost halfway. 10k before my 5th pity 
Yoooooo 
Sooo tempted to pull on Zinia but I feel like the master fairs are on the horizon
I have enough for 1 pity
I’ll have to wait for data mine; moriarty Zinnia is cool but
If the master fairs are better I’d be kicking myself

congratz, you are officially a true gem saving master
also, damn, that Paid gems is alot to select scout a lot of limited units that you can dream off
I really need to stop doing dailies because even the 3% and 4.5% banners I have terrible luck on featured units
Eventually good variety scouts will come and I should be ready for those
(And 5k selects hopefully still exist 2x per year)
this is a good thought, I'm glad (and fortunate, income wise) that I personally had the paid gems to guaruntee Ball Guy
Oh I could have got him too. But I'd rather save for eevolution rerun, selects, or better TBD
your preferences are up to you 
Gem Count, very nice to see the number go higher
Oh man we like twins
yea
I'm coping for the day older variety pairs will be in the variety banner pool
like the monthly pokefair banner we have now
Neat
Wow i hate egg hunt challenge :v
Miss 1 time yesterday or sth what egg did they give yesterday?
Missed 2... That is 60 gems

problem is those cost stamina to do too... so if you are those that quickly went to skip stages without ensuring all the daily quests that require stamina are done...
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it doesnt cost stamina i guess
It costs 10
10 stamina is less than an hour of waiting though
Hopefully i wont miss any egg hunt and helping out on pasio since now on
almost forgot those 2 event couple of day lately
can happen to forget if you are busy tho... there are times that I forget to spam off all my stamina before going to sleep
happened quite afew times for me
Making a mistake twice is less likely
👀i see it can happen in time zone where update around 1 am tho
just ask but anni happens in 24th August so it is technically September datamine?
i missed like two days because of that 
pffft, I've forgotten to do the daily egg hunt battle for a few days now 
rip those gems
yeah, I somehow remember the riddles
i forget the riddles because of the checkmark
have to remember doing the riddle till 21st
I nearly missed the daily riddle gem’s yesterday
there's time after the last riddle to finish the rest right
since I've stopped grinding the pasio eggsplorers event's shops, I just got used to the exclamation mark
so I forgot there's an extra daily battle that does give gems that I should have been doing every day 
Same
Ya I done it before on day 2 of the event to make sure it gives gems.
oh, I think I missed two days worth. I remember getting the vulpix egg
ok not as bad as I thought
i already finished all event today so i have 5 day grinding codex (without rally)
tbh i'm basically out of water codex so that's not bad
but i still have to get everything from latest event
It is always overlap with some VA or heavy stamina event like seasonal
I keep getting mixed up on in-game and twitter rally… 
anyway, a reminder to exchange your blissful bonanza tickets
Oh right it ended today. Thanks.
It's red, not orange. New stages are red.
Ya, if I see red, that means there’s gems
Just don’t pay attention to the regional ones tho. The lower level ones.
Not sure, but its in the news section
Yeah saw that
I've only ever done 1 select so far, since I'm not interested in most. I believe I bought the story/champ bundles (this was before the daily gem bundle was a thing) and p much figured they'd last me a long time
That said, I didn't expect them to make 3k selects so rare nowadays, it feels like they're all 5k. The odds of a 3k select having a unit I want just feels low now 
Agreed
I think I see that reinforced now by so many others here who do an amazing job saving, and have been especially in the past year
praying for an early datamine so i can know if i can roll for victor
but i must resist until pomas day
coin wise im at 19 yellow, 8 strike(+1 candy), 17 tech+support atm,
So far coins I’m at 3 red 1 yellow and 40 blue. ||Saving the blue ones for Summer Hilda or Pal Bea depending how much support candy we get before the Galar VA||
So I have a long way to get more candies.
Pal Bea gonna eat that up tho
In need of 3/5
Next rerun is selected scout in anni
👀i thought it it is more of a thing on anni... Dena have to make a way to get past seasonal somehow tho
hopefully if not i dunno how to get summer unit
I feel like from now on we might get one seasonal select on anni as a consistent thing
it is a must dont think i gonna spent on rerun ever again with that rate
Dunno if they will try to raise to ||3% like this spring|| but even if they do, 0,5% still a pity per unit... We have enough MF flying around
I could’ve sworn anniversaries had a select with seasonals. Maybe I’m wrong.
Oh
Man, 3.5 anni...we upgraded from 3 pokefairs to 3 master fairs 
Now neo champ give DeNa a reason to release duplicate MF passive pairs
Well kinda good as well like leonzard isnt a fave but cbede is
Or just make them pokefair
just finish the sinnoh unova kanto and alola spots and no more
Oh right we probably get real anniversary pairs on anniv as galar birbs trio aint anniversary pairs
2021-annisteven, annilillie, anniN
2022-anniskyla, annimay, anniraihan
2023-
I mean, they are anniversary pairs, not having the actual word in their name is a different thing
but yeah, 4th anniversary will likely make use of it
Well as we have those with words anniversary on their name for 2 consecutive years so we are still due for one this year
2020 was just ss kantrio right? So no anniversary alts
I've been very tempted to become a lodge completionist
Having everyone but Steven has been bothering me greatly
Specially since I like the pair
Yeah, but at the same time
Their venues for doing so have shrunk massively
Given the only pair I want, for collection purposes
Is classic elesa
I mean, it is your gems
but you're asking here
a place for people to encourage each other to save gems
||honestly if you really think it's worth then go ahead||
||plus you have pity anyways||
||just, er, don't regret it when aloVA comes||
60k f2p gems 
||im in the same boat as i only miss Steven, but i will wait for a select scout or something...3k paid for me is cheaper than potentially pitying with 36.6k||
Another day, another k
Also I agree on missing 1 lodge pair stinks. I only lack Raihan. But stay strong until they have special free selects or cheap paid select
Im missing 3
need more of those free selects
I hope we get a spotlight lodge next month
Missing Marnie and Raihan. Not really interested in pulling for either of them
The ones im missing r N Marnie and Gloria, prob only pulling if they come in a banner with someone I do want
I'm missing N and Raihan - ||got Marnie and Gloria off very lucky dailies|| - but I won't be pulling solely for Lodge, no
I'm only missing Marnie but I've been waiting for her to be on a triple rerun in a month without faves for 2+ years
So waiting more doesn't sound like an issue
I'm missing Raihan and Steven but I'm not really interested in them
Something I noticed and thought was weird: We don’t have a Scorbunny line Sync Pair
Yep
And yet we have two Rillaboom-line reps. Straaaaange
inb4 dena decides: leon scorbunny moment
No. Leon doesn’t deserve another pair
Gen pool Leon when
exactly
that's why it's scary
Leon's gotta persistantly stalk you- wait, he pants at directions
Inb4 Professor Magnolia + Scorbunny
It’ll probably be SS Victor + Cinderace if we’re all being honest
Also I just realized I am in the wrong chat.
Yeah, that's never an option for me
That said
My gem count is finally allowed to grow
Should have two pities or close by the end of the month, which should keep me safe
||i usually don’t pull for meta, but steven is really tempting me because he makes every physical attacker Really Good and i’ve needed a good physical booster for a long time||
nearly same, but for every unit
and I already have Steven since Ash's debut
Well, I also have SC Steven
wish i did too
but i’m waiting til datamine
cuz i like a lot of alolan legendaries
and alola VA is probably next month
It's like 50%

i don’t know if i want it to be next month or not
tbh
one on hand, next month could be a skip month ||and i could grab sc steve man||
While it’s not guaranteed, given how long it’s been since Kalos VA + the fact that they’re rerunning SS Lusamine this month does seem to point towards an Alola VA next month
on the other hand, i wanna see more alolan pairs
especially something like ss gladion
or the ultra recon squad (PLEASE PUT THE ULTRA RECON SQUAD IN THE GAME)
i’d love them as spotlights
I would grab Ultra Recon Squads if they have UBs...even if DeNa made them as variety scouts, as now even variety units have EX 
If they are variety they’ll probably have actual colors too, like ball guy
Oh right ball guy has a different colour 
But i wonder if we will get Rocket Admins with UBs instead as they are the one that opened the Ultra Wormhole
Archer Kartana 
Need petrel with koffing that knows explosion with a passive that gives explosion a chance to do no damage
you need revival blessing mon
unless self-faint prevention passive
Shadow Triad sync pair when DeNa? They have three lives because there's three people

Give em baton pass
So the final life Shadow Triad will be buffed
170k
must stay strong for datamine
Who r u going for?
I’m only missing Dialga AniSkyla and CElesa
Sonia is a fav of mine lel
Ah
Is worth to pull phanpy & Lyra ? My friend told me Is good
But idk i have 60k gems
Soon datamine too soo
Idk
is she a fav of yours? if not, dont pull
Not fave but cute outfit
So dont pull
Wait for datamine
No need to chase meta
Datamine literally about a week away give or take a day or two
i need a general idea on how screwed i am
is alola villain arc gonna end on May 25.
as thats when ss lusamine ends
i really really REALLY REALLY want it to be a 2 month event like most villain arcs
wait
it MIGHT not even be alola villain arc in may
as 25 is just way too soon for it to end right
well Johto VA happened around the same time last year
and Kalos and Sinnoh's VAs overlapped in schedule
it could be a champion calem serena situation?
it's preeetty safe to assume Alola VA next month
maybe that's just the case for SS Lusamine but other Alola VA units will go over to June? who knows
if thats the case great as i already have ss lusamine but im dreading it especially now that more than 3 master fairs are possible
Hoenn and Unova VA were a 1-month event iirc so if Alola decides to last for only 1 month too, what can we do 
ive been getting shafted horribly on detective steven and got shafted on anni bede aswell so im really worried
PLEASE STOP GIVING ME 10 FAVORITES IN A ROW
alola is also my favorite reigon and i know for a fact we are probably getting a magearna master fair and its just HFUFMVFIVJ
Why cant i dislike things
Im usually decent at skipping but ever since about february theyve been throwing favorite after favorite with little room to breath in between
i think my current biggest regret was ||going for palentines marnie rerun, i got it in 21k gems, but i only went for it due to steel zone||
Currently have 93k gems, im ready for alola VA's legendaries/mythicals/UBs...ive been skipping temptations left and right 
back in january i had over 60k gems and now i have literally 85
Well i skipped this month because Paulo interlude existence means high chance that the month after have VA
||anabel, all 3 main anni units and detective steven are genuine favorites, i skipped everything else but i mean||
i do not care at all for the other detective units or any reruns this month and they were super easy skips
so thats a good thing atleast?
i should wait for datamine probably before spending any more on steven
literally 5 out of 6 scouts were dead multis
and the one multi i did get a single 5 star in, it was one i already had at 5/5
but i have NEVER been able to wait for a datamine well before
am i just meant to just give up
you cant say "wait until a rerun" because its gonna be all 4 rerun together
so 0.5% for each which means i wont get it period.
unless i somehow get enough lying around to pity it
im just in a horrible position due to something i did 3 nonths ago because i genuinely couldnt beat steel stages, on top of genuinely miserable luck and now i have to skip favorites
if anyone can give me any sort of advice thatd be great
That is the dopamine in your head, you'll feel better when it passes
And there is always the re run option, pity if necessary when they come back
It's up to you who and want you want
alright
ill definitely ATLEAST wait for datamine
Yes do that, its always the best option to assist with planning ahead
Makes zenning alot easier
see i always say ill wait until datamine but i just end up being impatient
but ill try for real this time
yeah
the fact i am hoping for units I DONT want more than anything is quite telling about how bad of a situation im in with this game
im unsure what a lillie alt would do for me unless its alola ninetales
itd be a easy skip unless its that exact pairing
The other characters maybe treated with some semblance of dignity
And good alts
Gladion and guzzlord
Or katarna
There a few things Dena can do
magearna is probably gonna be the one that gets me
zeraora also but to a slightly lesser extent
dont care too much for the tapus and ultra beasts are great but not FAVORITE level
Have you written down a fave list yet?
no
It helps.
make a tier list of faves
you have 10 faves? list them from most fave to least fave
stick to it
Hisui Growlithe/Arcanine
Johto Slowking
Ledian
Heracross
Breloom
Gliscor
Oshawott Line
Maractus
Lurantis
Magearna
Zeraora
Falinks
Bellibolt
Annihilape
Farigiraf
Gholdengo
Iron Valiant
not in that order
try making an order so you can be sure of your priorities. at this point, you're just going to pull at every fave you see, without thinking there might be a bigger fave dropping
- Falinks
- Oshawott Line
- Heracross
- Breloom
- Annihilape
- Magearna
- Gliscor
- Iron Valiant
- Johto Slowking
- Lurantis
- Hisuian Growlithe Lime
- Gholdengo
- Zeraora
14.Farigiraf - Ledian
- Bellibolt
- Maractus
and characters-wise?
you can edit the list
okay
now for order
- Gladion
- Arven
- Guzma
- Mustard
- Bede
- Iono
- Lusamine
- Raihan
- Hop
- Giacomo
okay so save both lists somewhere and only pull characters in these lists
okay no thats way too little i feel
more characters = more gems to save
and more stress
20 potential units are already too many
i mean yeah but thats WAY too strict i feel
am i just NEVER allowed to pull for the ones i removed
U may be fine if most of them never get alts, but some of them have one alt or are likely to atleast get one
Like hau has potential for aloVA if it is next month
even if i like really want it and didnt think to put it in my list
i have like 20 characters max that i can limit myself to without it feeling forced
i always just go for a unit by unit basis i dont say "im not scouting you because you arent one of these 5 specific things"
do i need to channel my inner hater and start hating more
also would the outfit just not matter
like even tho steven doesnt make the list
i want detective steven but i dont want anni steven
both of these are based off the outfit
also i just cant limit myself to 17 pokemon theres now over 1000 of them and lots of them are great
im just not that strict
it’s hard but fear of missing out is what the gacha game is built around
with guzma gladion and lusamine making your top cut characters i can’t recommend anything but saving given what’s coming the next 1-2 months
sure, ive definitely gone for stuff outside of my trimmed down fave list before but you have to be selective and willing to miss out on stuff that you like to save for stuff you love
i try to be selective already
Detective Steven is literally the only thing this month i am even remotely interested in
I chase metas(due to no favs) but im extremely fussy tho
if i dont like the kit, i skip, if i dont like the mon, skip, if i dont like the trainer(only Paulo falls under this), skip
most of the units I pulled with non paid gems are units I want right from when I saw their kit on datamine
for units that somewhat interest me but not enough to warrant an immediate want I will wait for their rerun or select banners
if that helps
ngl ss morty...
I don't really love him, even though he's meta

sigh, if only they'll release a meta lillie for aloVA
or a new, shinier N
Meta lillie? Her sc and anni alt are already kinda meta...she will get another one? 
anything new will be meta
Sclyra and scshauna kit looks kinda normal...but they are new
“Meta” is a semi-unreliable qualifier too, I’ve been 2king Psychic weak stages with Caitlin (who’s only getting her Power Boost in ~a week) for ages now (only reason no 2.5k yet is because no Psychic weak stage in this CS run yet)
And vbruno also looks mid
True
I just like it when my favorites are meta

vibruno
Is that the term for variety pairs? I not sure if i should say vbruno or varbruno
Or bruniety
Brunix sounds nice but how to say variety lorelei ...loreyster
Presening! Dj Brunix ft. Cloyierei
Also kriseon, lyreon and lucaseon 
Joltis, Vapora and Flarecas
I wonder if we will get another variety banner next month...we get them for 2 months consecutively.
Ball guy and now kanto e4
pretty much most units with very few exceptions 
SC Lyra is actually very good because free one AoE rebuff
But she's not
INSANE SUPPORT 420
But tbh support can't really suck since forever
There's extremely few mediocre supports
He's free and does ok after grid
He's better than many other tech/striker 3-4*
I was mostly talking about latest trends in supports (so last year or so)
What fake
ScLyra is just like Fallister...only good point is rebuff but iirc fallister can put 2 stack ghost rebuff...sclyra can only put 1
The 3.5 fakes?
We got fake units?
the one like gladion guzzlord pic?
Fallister gives thick regen stacks too iirc
i cant rmb that unit's name lol
the post is gone from datamine too lol
some april fool joke iirc
Anyway, pulling a new unit is almost always an improvement in the role the unit covers compared to older units bar rare cases (imo)
Oh you mean the cottonee
Oh the unit we used for that one single stage
Yep thats why its important to not get swayed by non faves and meta...because sooner or later your faves will arrive with good kits...and you got no gems to spare because your reckless spending before
Ages ago
I would totally use victory road Tyranitar MC btw
yup that unit 
I only chase legendaries, mythicals, UBs and later paradoxes
my collection is complete currently got all the playable ones
I only have "ban/do not pull list" 
||As for me,I only go after N’s, Hilda, and Hilbert, the trios I like||
I have a list of:
- Must pull no matter what (6 characters)
- Must have to complete my collection (male protags)
- I love you but I don't mind skipping (a lot of other characters I like)
@cobalt frost maybe this will help you
Surely I will achieve 100k in no time if I limit my want list to two character alts that might never see the light of day.
The discipline has been difficult though.. as I want (tall) male alts as well.
me waiting for Silver alt
unless I really, really like it
...unless the next steven alt is meta
in which case, welp, three stevens it is!

Actually I want a third one as well.. Winona alt when?
it's funny how the stevens I own are the ones that aren't considered meta
welcome to Gem support centre, what do you need to share?
I have a similar list to that. I once thought of trying a female protag collection but that seems impossible, there are just too many
the fact that the jingly key stealing keychain is so cute
and I must resist
I need to share that ||I want to pull SC Lyra for nostalgia reasons and I love Lyra|| but I need to stay strong for datamine first
yup, I love protags, but collecting all protags is unrealistic for a f2p like me, so male protags it is
As for me, my original goal was to collect all Unova units including Unova pokemons, however that would be extremely difficult for a f2p player like me, which was why I made a fave list.
Yeah I want to pull for Zinnia
But I have to stay strong for
Datamine
Easy 1 week and a bit
only thing keep me sane is new lilie alt
dev letter next monday 
I feel like the rest of this fan base would lose their marbles if she got another alt lol
lillie alt! lillie alt! gimme my fave dena
idk, it's expected for her to get an al for alola VA. It's the most logical thing to do

people get mad because she got random alts very soon
people with her alt already wont understand.. Im currently have no lilie alt as well as any limited pair for alola
exactly
At the same time, Lillie alt makes so much sense, lore-wise and profit-wise
The fandom can scream and cry but I can't deny she will sell
now if they dont give gladion an alt i will riot
Well good thing her SC alt is rerunning soon eh?
I'll join you
Lillie has 1 less than Steven right? She is obviously getting alolan vulpix to even that out
lillie magearna, calling it
nope.... No gems + 0.5% we can know the result
I only have anni lillie for alola limiteds
Atleast you have an alola special atk striker
I will lose 300 gems if sentry entry or tough skin in effect
Hoping its sentry entry not wise entry for EBEs
|| also going for lussamine so
||
oka
Hau carry ez
Lmao anni lillie EBE flashback
Hau carry....
nice joke
Hau was, in fact, used in some f2p-friendly options for the Lear EBE (the one made for anni lillie)
hey hau saved me in the Lusamine EB
it was painful bc i didnt have kiawer
Hau is no joke, still a solid pair
Hau saves people's butts on electric weak Aaron, assuming you don't have a strong option for off type that is
granted on type physical electric pairs would be the same as off typing 
and with 6ex he's so much better
havent used Hau for a while now. Beside Lear EB is old and not limited only to alola so he never crossed my mind
Could be nice if he can dps tho :v
...i thought it was limited to alola?
I don't remember it buffing any other theme skills
Which is why people struggled in the first place
i remember it come with one other theme tho because if it is only alola then i had a struggle
dunno
Yup, region only
Probably i used spotlight Lussamine or sth
literally no memory of this... I think it only hard when first come. I only took part in rerun in last year Dec.
Eh it was pretty rough when it reran too
Well since I have more Alola units, safe to say that I shouldn’t run into issues on that EBE again. Meaning I can get the gems if it reruns.
Of course if you have a lot of alola limiteds, you're fine
my best alola pair is godcerola... Next month EB gonna be brutal.
Oh wait nvm im also gonna have a brutal time
I'm a bit screwed, since I have no alola limiteds, iirc
it might be time to EX masked royal
he is physical tho
Gladion is physical tho so they may use sentry entry card and slap EB some tough skin
Besides lusamine (base and ss), a!lillie, naomi, hau, and plumeria all alola pairs are either physical or a support
naomi is the most promising sadly you cant ex her
More promising than lussa? 
Hm, anyone who can raise defense from alola?
Lana
imagine having lana... Not me but she probably only def buff in alola
Im only missing melony and shauna besides her but atleast they arent in ticket scout yet 
I’ll probably have to stick with gladion for next month.
guzma can buff his own defense, elio has sentry entry 1…
but yeah lana is the only aoe defense buff
MR can also lower attack, unless EBE uses special moves
Sentry entry x2

Ye I started in february 2022 
Dont please dont
Maybe it wont even boost alola and boost some other theme skill and a type that is much more limited
Like the grown woman EBE in the grown woman VA
ah yes, fairy
Or worse, the one where if stats are raised, damage decreases.
latias moment!!!
Luckily had cserena idk how those who didnt pull her dealt with it 
Frog superior
SC Diantha or Glojo r like the other 2 options
Nobody else debuffs stats from water or kalos, maybe clemont?
next month hold many possibility.... I even fear for my coin plan
Hopefully no more tech fav
Gotta hope no support units
I want next month to be a skip || want to go for lussa, if I can get her then idm if there’s one banner which preferably will be another rerun
||
Did 12.5k on the Special CSMM with only grass units, only 2.5 units were limited. Truly a nice game to go for favs.
Hope water or fire are next
Still better than poison
poison not that bad tho
Poison's got some decent units. Granted not as strong in gen pool characters as some others.
I feel like it's easier to stall than do f2p friendly poison dps clears
Yeah, no, it's much easier to just stall 'em out. I think the most friendly F2P poison clear would be Koga, BP Janine, and a tank. Koga sync hits pretty dang hard.
God help poison-weak stages if he ever gets EX.
I forget if I asked this question or forgot to but how many gems are available until March 1
You mean may?
Lmao yeah my b
7205 based on the bot. But then again it’s probably not counting future event gems since it doesn’t have datamine info
Less than 10k

I dont get the bot, it usually shows more than the remaining gems in the gem count
Not sure why people expect MF next month. Not many MF VA units lately, I expect that in June for another NC event
isn't SSLusamine a MF?
yes but she isn't a new unit
next month shouldn't have MFs
unless dena goes insane
but 99% we're getting MF in june
like the johto VA
High chance of getting 36k gems by end of June right?
Ik the info prob isn’t out yet
But maybe around 36k from now till end of June?
The odds of not being able to get enough for a guarantee by the end of June are astronomically low since it would pretty much require 2 record-low months back to back
Either way, a MF is coming and soon
And it will accompany a 2 month alola VA
Maybe another Gio... gio and guzzlord🤔
Two months of less than 18k? Perish the thought
Dena is capable of this evil
Just a reminder that if johtrio reruns for anni we may have 6 MFs at one time
well last time we got 5 
with the number of MF increasing soon we will have at least one per moth

Personally, im hoping alova is next month cause any later and it’d still be going on when summer n drops…which I feel is more dangerous for me than just calling it done before then
I’ll be a bit worried if it isn’t next month. Cause that’ll also lower my summer n budget I think

Doubting the summer reruns would last to the end of july datamine
Excited for alola VA, want to see if DeNa will give Solgaleo EX and power boost or instead do a new legendary adventures unit that has alola tag 
I’m still thinking maybe they will open EX to all MC units (hopefully)
hopefully i will be able to add 4
asap... solgaleo/regirock/cobalion/mesprit 
Eggmon EX 
If Eggmon got EX, it will give me extra reason to 5* 20/20 shiny eggmons in the future 
But darn still no shiny nidoking in sight 
eggmon ex is the ultimate copium, they don't even have a grid
Imagine they have grid 
they need much more than that to be actually worth such hefty resource investment
MC pikachu exchange obviously 

I have quite a large EX list not including future pairs, not getting eggmons past 3* tbh 



no gems is left behind

