#Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)
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it was really hard last week
Didn't even finish a battle due to unforeseen circumstances
I did Not like wikstrom at all
I just offtype
fighting weak? yeah it sucked
Coz ontype sucks for me most of the time
I usually have at least one lead dps ontype
And I'm an insane person that has specced all my resources into 400 different support units
So it's usually fine like that..
Still need another fairy fave to on-type fairy weak comfortably 
I guess Bea is supposed to be good but I can't ever get her to actually Do anything...
||thankfully my fav bestest boy has a real nice fairy unit for me to play with so I don't feel bad for skipping lissi||
conclusion: diantha must be shit
Fairy, flying and poison need improvement for me
also I like to use allister as a poison unit
Other typings are fine ig
Yea but allister is not poison
So he gets bricked in ebe
Like ssgio
yeah he's faking. don't worry about it
He is shy
So wait is current ebe poison? Christ
mhm
I haven't even looked at it but maybe I can brute force it with some guidance from the other channels 
||you got Emma?||
Looks like it, from his name
Do i need emma, do i need her? Hmmm.
I want unit like cserena, where i can off type more often
||yea and exed her||
Well actually my fav not much. I like all legendaries.
Really fav unit is blaziken.
Other than that gonna pull for legendaries and op unit where i can off type cs easily
Fellow legendaries fan 
Yessh.
There's 37 playable legendaries for now in poma 
That many
Oh man
Zekrom huhu.
Maybe i ll just wait till get 36.6k
Then decide if want to pull or not
Goodluck, it is kinda hard to collect them all but its a nice goal

Especially because some of them are related to VA units and they kinda never rerun outside select
And some of them are Master Fairs
Well at least DeNa give 13 legendaries for free, and 1 mythical
Theres also 1 legendary in general pool
They might add 2 more free legendaries during anniversary
Always a good decision!
Just some days
Then we'll get to decide on 1/2 anni economy
Hopefully only one unit interests me, since SS Diantha is still there taunting me
I say this week
Nice already pool 16 for leon, i might can make it
..done with marnie event as well so i can welcome cgio and meowth event happily
Im doing it if I finish leon and we dont get new evenrs
Hilda/Diancie isn't really any better than Archeops right? Assuming Excadrill and shinyDiancie are the other 2? I just want to be told they are equal so I don't waste on a future select
There is always enough stamina to finish all events
Hopefully, im pretty lucky for leon prize pool event...those that aren't lucky enough might need more stamina
this is more of a #poma-questions thing but emmett is a better striker than schilda he is just tied to sand (unlike both hilda and diantha)
Hate prize pool events, its kinda RNG
I asked for a biased answer from the saving group though
i dont think there is a meta reason to go for schilda, just get her if you like her/outfit/pokemon
If asked in saving group, we just gonna reply skip everything that aren't fave and only get faves 
i run schilda and ss diantha together and theyre a lot of fun but theres significant overlap in how they operate since theyre both aoe damage dealers
Yes exactly
Worse as a pure damage dealer, but I feel like she's more fun and splashable
Do wish she had better nuke, her DPS and bulk are fine
But it's diancie so I play her more than Emmet
Seems like double Diancie limit each other both wanting to sync.
Also god bless the "tomboy in girly clothing" trope đ
I mean SS Diantha enables schilda so imo syncing with latter is best
I just sync with schilda in double diancie+regirock team
Her double down 5+towering defense made her sync hurts like a truck
Eh I'll just stick with Archeops. SDiancie actually has some minor sand nodes if I candy later
She won't rerun in ages anyway
I wonder if we would see first sc select on half anniv 
I wonder if shaymin will rerun alone
That's a good point
If shaymin never rerun, bye2 Naomi 
When is the second sc rerun banner
want springo and emmet
Hopefully this april but I don't think that was a spring event
So the reruns may be wack
First question here ever
How to save
I saved up 36.6k back when OG Diantha came out
But I never could ever since then (till SS Serena where I almost reached 36.6k but bailed before reaching the goal) and always feel tempted after seeing others pulls
First of all, donât look at the pulls.
But the animations đ
You should save for what you genuinely want, and skip characters you donât want.
Thatâs not a reason to pull for somethingâŠ
Have you made a favs list?
Yea
Anything from kalos but specifically Diantha and Lysandre over others
And Bede
And Opal if she ever gets in the game
Skip.
Chasing meta is not a wise way to go.
This thread is all about saving, we should not encourage pulling for only meta.
Roxie + Lucy + a 3/5 Hilbert or 3/5 Sonia handles Poison weak content easy (not counting EBEs)
Also Koga
But what if they are in a great outfit?
A lot of characters have good outfitsâŠ..
Like I pulled Holiday Jasmine just because I really liked her outfit
So that does not narrow it down in the slightest.
And pokemon
Is Ampharos a fav-fav?
Iâm gonna be honest, it sounds more like youâre looking for validation on your gem expidenture rather than seeking advice on saving
WRONG EMOTE REACT
That's not my intention
~~One of my servers had a emote purge so my favorites order is fucked
~~
But you are free to keep your opinions
Either way, you sound like you want to pull for everything.
Because powercreep happens a lot.
When a banner comes out, rarely do I feel like "nah"
I always do wanna pull single
*s
Single is not the way to do it either.
Multis not so much
My other advice: clear your head and turn off the game.
You can remove it tho yk
I just use my alt to vent off when I absolutely need to save for pity or feel like pulling but no gems
Your life is not just the game.
Then why not divert your attention to any hobbies you have?
Some saving tips then:
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If theyâre a seasonal, and theyâre not a favorite, then itâs pretty easy to skip their initial run and wait for a rerun or a paid select depending on how much of a real money spender you are.
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Ignore meta, we basically get a gamebreaker every month at this point and even year 1 Sync Pairs are still going strong.
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Singles are always a worse deal than multis. If you get tempted to do singles and not tempted to do multis, then keep in mind that youâre effectively throwing away 30 gems per single if youâre doing singles for anything other than finishing off 400 scout points.
Thats what I do when I save more than 1k
And keep doing it till 3k and then the control goes loose
You actually sound like youâre too fixatedâŠ.
Seasonals rarely tempt me actually lol
Again, try doing something else you like. A hobby.
Wdym...?
I am just being honest
You say the game isnât your life but your constant pulling tells me otherwise.
There are other things you can do to divert your head
This is coming from someone with ADHD, if you do something else, you can take your mind off the game.
When I see the gem count when I log in back the next that's when I wanna pull
Then stop looking at the gem stuff and other pulls.
Once I close the game, I forget about it again and the cycle repeats
This ain't working if you are rolling in your main account as well

I used to do alts to vent it actually works
Thing is , maintaining alt itself is a chore

Yeah the trouble with alts is not fun
Also alts has this thing where it somehow ends up better than main
But yeah, donât you have any other hobbies, SylvieâŠ..?
I do lol
And you then downgrade main to alt
And the cycle repeats
So I just dropped alts in gacha games I play and only login like 2x a day
Then why not focus more on them. I like to do a lot of things (which can make me indecisive), but I love me some gaming.
I am telling you constantly that I feel tempted to pull when I open the game, after I close it off I get busy with other things
Such as writing and stuff I like
Reducing your thoughts to not pull and just do daily missions is easy.
Starting is whatâs hard.
That's where the trouble begins if I am being honest
Starting is always the hardest thing, but once you do, its like momentum.
If you donât start now, imagine how your gems will be in the future. Hell, Half Anni is next datamine.
See if I get a 3/4/5â pu in daily scout I always feel tempted to try my luck
Should I just close the game then and there?
Do you do anything else like thisâŠ..? Like you donât play any other gachas or gamble, do youâŠ?
Yes.
The game itself takes less time to interact
Longest time you spend is in lodge
And lodge doesn't display gems
I do play CRK but somehow I always have a 180k+ gc lol
I am a good saver there and rarely pull with gems
Lodge is just friendship sim
I just face difficulty in this game
Whatâs stopping you from doing those habits with this one?
Idrk
You sure?
Yea
You probs don't have favs or any interesting stuff in this game
Since you like the other game or have a goal you are saving
Here its probably coz you are just playing for nostalgia/brand I'd assume
I do have them here but being frank they feel so....ooc at time yk
I won't disagree
Iâd be happy just to have them. Like with Ash, I wish it was a different outfit, but heâs still my biggest fav, so ofc I got him.
He was the only character I actually wanted truly
Like I saved for him 12k iirc
I just decide what to roll on datamine day itself
When I got the news, just started saving didn't pull and stuff
So that I don't get tempted when I see when they actually drop
Datamine is a good time to make a decision.
And mostly the only roll like last day of the banner
My deciding factor is outfit or how fun the kit can be or meta
Unless I plan on going dupes, then I just roll day 1 and then wait for last day to do dupes
I had a pity when I went for Ash. Went for no one else.
That's basically everything......
What I said
You don't have any priorities or favs
Told you
Didn't you also go for SST Red...?
That was because I still had a pity left.
Ash ||came after three multis lol||
I went for ash first eventho I liked red more
Coz Collab unit that might never rerun
Like Jessie and James

Where my Jessie rerun Dena
It's been 2 whole years
BIG AF COPIUM I STG
I want grid boost
Saaaaaaame
They are already 5* for me
Just waiting for grid and ex
They are even poison
Aka rarest type coverage
Hereâs my plan and you can tell me what you think
This is why I don't share my experience with gem saving with anyone
Like someone said previously, ppl think I am justifying my pulls when I am just telling my problem and searching for a solution on how to overcome it

Sylvie, I think first and foremost, start the habit of saving 36.6k.
But you are the one that asked how to save gems
Once you get there, you can figure out how you feel and what to do with being at the larger number afterwards.
How to give advice when I can't see any solutions
How to save gems when I do all this curry
I am bad at phrasing myself sorry-
CurryâŠ.?
Well not just poma.... generally saving for something is mainly to ensure a long term benefit to reach your goals
Like I said
Without goals it's very hard to restrain yourself to save
But I will try my best to save ig
Psure abt that
Only takes like a little over a month.
I tried to like trying to get many fairy mons but nope I get constant shaft from them
Same for fav characters
It's always them that shaft me for some reason :/
I am a late joiner
You are getting the shaft coz you are not sticking to just rolling fairy
How many favs do you have?
Make a list
Uh
And then prioritize only the top 5-6 ones
Here
So uh maybe....5 or 6? 8 at max?
whats your situation right now then. did you already go for ss diantha and ss lysandre?
Is the best way to convince people to have willpower to use positive or negative reinforcement?
||How far in are the points?||
Positive.
so if hes your major fave then save your gems until his last day to see if you can hit pity
On Lysandre or on Diantha? If Diantha, I already got her^^
Lysandre.
Sometimes I strongly doubt this
Okay, stop doing anything, youâll live.
I mean, Iâm serious about my points. But better to let them think positively, helps them remember it better.
It changes from person to person
I get more willpower during pressure and negative reinforcement

So no pulls on him at all?
When someone give positive advice and it'd be like
Whytf are you spouting unrealistic shit
I can do a multi on 24th tho-
But that's just me
None whatsoever, until you have enough to pity him.
Or anyone, really.
at 12 scout points youve basically got no hope of hitting pity before lysandre leaves so your best bet is to cut and run, and save for his rerun/select scout (if you have paid gems)
Oh not enough? I didnât check, mb
I never used money in the game lol
thats fine
In any game ever tbh
Actually if you are relatively new player
OH HEâS ONLY 6K LEFT
I highly recommend to just save for diantha and lysandre
if lysandre is a big fave tho you should start putting away 36.6k for his rerun
Yeah you need to save and not pull for him anymore this run.
Coz diantha and lysandre alone have like 5 versions combined
Not even try...?
And you can only roll so much reruns per year
I checked, you cannot pity him.
We do not gamble here. We save.
._.
Well okay then
You need 36.6k gems
I will save
pulling without pity may work out for you but just as often you can end up walking away with nothing
and then youre back at zero gems and dont have anything for the next big unit you wish for
try to treat every banner you pull on as costing 36.6k gems. if theyre not worth that to you then do not pull. if you get them early then you got them on discount
If you don't have a fav that already exist in game
Remember that saving gems for that fav's potential rerun is guaranteed fav roll
Compared to the gamble you do on a unit you can't pity
Yea got it
granted we have no idea how soon ss lysandre will rerun, they havent rerun any of the VA units in free banners other than lucas, once
Still, better to prepare.
yep
Considering the better price, I have the Daily EX Bundle gems stockpiled.
But I also have 45K left in non paid.
Also you can always remove it yk lol
There's no need to panic
It happens
I'm back in saving mode now 
Saving time! 
You got this. I believe in you! You can save, just like all of us!
The hardest thing is starting, I know it is too
It gets easier the more you save
The more pities you will have those awesome future units
Like weight loss
Or a project
Wow i manage to empty my egg storage just in time for meowth event next reset 
Shit forgot about that
Difficult to clear space when you got only one slot and keep getting eggs from sync orb stage
I usually transfer ones that donât have three passives.
You can also filter by type if thatâs easier to look through.
Same, and if I already have a 3 passive tech/support of it I just donate it unless its shiny mankey vulpix or dratini
I just gonna keep the ones that are shinies, because i not gonna delve too deep in eggmons realm
Yeah the only ones I stockpiled are shinies I like and multiple Tyrogues from that one event.
They are kinda neat side goal to have especially in month that i skipped all units
But I have 219 eggmons in my box out of the max 500 
I never use eggmons but I like the just have a 3 passive tech/support if I can bcz y not
I make 5* non eggmon units and collecting shinies as side goal for those months
Same tbh
But I never go past 10 in LG so dont have a use for them, and ive only done the last 2
Yep this make them a good side goal, just I don't think i will buy any of those egg passes unless cosmog/kubfu/poipole/phione eggmon events 
Dont think any of those r likely tbh, maybe phione but they could just make a regular pair w it and MC
Its good to see perrserker, the second non kanto final evolution eggmon
The first is hitmontop
Ye, but if they werent related to tyrogue (who has kanto evos) and meowth (kanto w RFs) we prob wouldnt have gotten them
But its a start ig
I wonder if weâll have all 8 eeveelutions tho
Well they didn't add scizor, steelix, crobat, slowking, belossom though
Oh i miss politoed
Yeah I looked for a Zubat monâŠnothing
Hope they release shiny zubat soon, i accidentally pair with it when im a newbie and it taints my shiny eggmons collection 
Literally same
What i do is always go to lodge first and open chest. Hoping to get 5* ticket. This week the chest been very generous. Once every two days i got 30 ticket to pull a guarantee 5* pull. The urge to pull new banner unit already gone since i got so many new units on the ticket pull. Then start to play around the new unit. Now my gem still increasing. Every day a new record
Tickets are meant to get gen pool units without using gems after all :0
For me they are a free
source since I have everyone in the pool except Bertha

Grandma refuses to come home
What is the latest unit added into general ticket pool? Is it only till sinnoh e4?
Pretty sure
Melony isnt in the ticket pool yet 
Im still waiting for useful support sonia to come home
I still want my 3/5 SS Erika tho 
I guess i gonna keep pulling still need 1 copy of aaron and 2 copies of lucian to 3/5 them both
And OG elesa too
I wanna have a free amazing physical off typer 
Silver?
~~SS Erika
~~
I use him offtype for fun and he works
I could pair him with Erika ig
I wonder if zarude will be a support grass pair...well jungle healing kinda sounds like a support move
If DeNa release it, my grass fave team will be completed 
I paired up w any new eggmon I could get and now have a ton of non shinies
Tru, maybe cuz they r newer than the rest?
Im missing 6 but have 32 not maxed out (18 are 1/5 or 2/5)
alright
thanks to ss diantha
im at 755 gems
and i dont know if ill be able to pity raihan if he reruns next month
agrhjenfkoro
Kinda why people suggested to wait for datamine for VA related banners...only palentine banners gone early
||i mean i already went that deep on her đ||
Anni banners tend to be 2 months long
So just stay strong and pray for the best
unless you mean the steel raihan
But werent cynthia and red only one month
Ash left mid october I think
They only go one month on stuff that drops later that month
Yea like around 20th
He left like a week before datamine
Just keep talk of pulling under spoiler tags in this channel, especially with units that are still available
oh right apologies

In the span of 10 days or less the daily TL conversation gave me a general move candy coin, TWICE
I had only ever got 1 support coin in all the rest of TL convos before that
Stuff like that really helps distract you from pulling
Thanks
Yep i also use TL as distraction but with 150 my faves, getting at least 1 cert each day on average gave me a feeling of progress 
Neat, i still need 8 more certs to 150 my next pair 
As i already started on it, i cannot 150 other upcoming datamine faves until it is done
Need a quick answer before going back to work: How many paid gems for champ select scout?
Aight thanks, really needed the info
Steven is good
I just want him for his future Lodge addition
(Since he's 100% getting in at some point)
Don't give me lance hopium pls
Anni Lance soonâąïž
||REDACTED||
I will cry out of joy and devastation at the same time if Anni Lance is true
Same, ready to max him and get him 3/5
Gem count, recovery arc part 2
109,635...can get 3rd pity next reset 
hi, returning player here. are there any anticipated upcoming major event to save my pulls or can I pull in the current banners?
half anni in a week
Yep half anni is near
If there isn't anything that you like that's running now then wait for half anni
we dont know yet
thanks again
Datamine can be expected soon

I'm at 120k 
I had a saving fail halfway through the month but Iâm back to saving. There have been lots of temptations over the last few days but Iâve stayed strong
Damn so since 3rd ani had 3 MF do you think 4th anni with have 4 MF
Well 2021 and 2022 both have 3 MF
28,6k again
||i consciously did 1 multi to celebrate a streak of small victories that day and got emma in that multi||
3 seems to be the limit (for now). like vantner said, 2nd anni and 2.5 anni also had 3 units
the flying deer came later
But it was still same patch
she came during anni month but not to celebrate the anni itself
if we're talking about units in that month, of course we'll have more than 3
but units to celebrate the anniversary date? we only had 3
Well I am mentioning it coz it's better to be safe and save 4 pities
Instead of 3 and feel the pain

It took me 1 min to figure out who is the flying deer 
well the question here isn't the anni month itself, just the anniversary celebration
When can we expect datamine
Expect disappointment and you wonât be disappointed
this is a saturday tho
I expect 27th. I'm already waiting for the pokemon presents anyway so might as well 
We might have a Saturday datamine this month 
We broke the no Friday datamine pattern last month

the friday datamine felt like a fluke ngl. I feel like it was possible they were planning for a thursday datamine but there was an error last minute that they had to fix, so the update was released on friday instead. that's just blind speculation of course
Doubt it will be before the 25th
Generally they drop new content only when the previous one got fully released
We are still missing the grids and ex for poma day
We had update on poma day before
Then i guess the 25th is a possibility
Highly doubt it will be before the 25th
Have like 60k
It should be enough to get must have units, unless they drop like 4 of them
Hope next reset have datamine 
I hope there's at least 9 support coins next month, so that i can form 1 support and 1 tech candy.
I cannot form strike candy because i already used it this month to 3/5 ssethan 
If no new support fave next datamine, i will use it on Mesprit
I think way more likely on Friday 24th or Monday 27th than Saturday 25th
And yes many say 27th is too late, but still more likely than Saturday
whos the flying deer?
Dot forget the Kung Fu panda
..?
Oh i thought the question before this is about anni MF, thats why i didn't count scrosa
Master fairs get me thinking about my pulling choices for the remainder of this month
I should wait until the datamine, at least, before choosing anything, shouldn't I?
wait for datamine
I'm sitting at 102k, so I'm on a pretty decent spot even if I drop a pity
If they hide the MF like zerena, the first datamine that only show half of stuffs still cannot help much 
I dislike it tbh. Kinda feel like they do it with bad faith.
No
If they do that, I'll just disregard the datamine and pull regardless
The "main dish" of 0.5 and 1.5 were dropped at the start
Yep, i got fooled ||and pulled for annimay and anniskyla dupes|| and poof suddenly a wild zerena appeared 
If i know, i will just gonna get 1/5
Not gonna make that mistake this time, just gonna 1/5 half anni fave 
So ig if we see half of the month datamined, dont pull yet
Yep if you all low on gems better dont.
I have 3 pities so i will grab early
Because i usually grab fave ASAP if i have pity
Yeah thereâs always at least one you know you canât overlook
Get to that pity
Playing rock weak against the Kalos master mode made me realize that now that I have Raihan to act as back up vocals for emmet
I'll likely never need a rock type upgrade
Also felt Kalos was easier than other MMS for fire
@tardy fiber unless you are whaling it doesn't make sense to pull beyond 1/5 if not close to pity
It isn't ever "safe" to pull for dupes
I think you are both in agreement
||Besides, Vantnerâs goal is to 3/5 all of their 50+ faves, and that canât be done through candy quickly⊠If they thought it was safe to do so than why not||
||Like Iâm planning on pitying for SS Wally regardless of what happens, unless I get like 3/5 in 1 multi⊠I just donât have the resources to candy him||
"free", hopefully the lodge unit is someone I have
I will pretty much always suggest never pulling for dupes beyond 1/5 unless you are roughly ~2 multis from pity, give or take.
I could've maybe misunderstood Vant there, but it sounds like a cautionary tale to me for another reason why one shouldn't do so
With that said, if you've got a fav that you really love and you know you can afford to dedicate that pity to the character maybe out of love for the alt/chara, then hey, it's up to you at the end of the day. It may not be the best idea resources-wise imho, and I wouldn't suggest it, but I understand
In the case of someone who has paid gems set aside for selects, one could consider (especially with the 3k Daily gem bundle) potentially getting dupes from selects for paid gems, if you're in the position to do that in the first place
Don't wanna necessarily speak on Vantner's behalf, but I think from what I remember hearing, Vantner is in that position from what I can recall, so that plays into their lofty goal being made at least a little more manageable, to say the least 
I pull for dupes if the candy demand for a certain roles have a huge gap compared to other 2 roles
At that time it was tech
Do you do selects for dupes?
So i pull 3/5 annimay and anniskyla but i limit myself to 1 pity each
I think I remember you mentioning that
Yep, to get 3/5 faves faster
Yeah, at least figured that
But it kinda even it like recent select as i already have all faves in it 3/5...i skipped it
So that saves my 5k paid
I see tho
I understand you've got a v high number of favs and the prospect of selects can at least make it a little easier, so hey, that's something. But still, def gotta be careful with those free gems
I just skip all 5k paid selects period ngl
Waiting for the next 3k select 
I will grab if it still have non 3/5 faves in there
For now, i only havent finish:
Striker: ssleon 2/5, sshilda 1/5
Tech: falliris 1/5
Support: mesprit 1/5
Even with a 3k select, I'd still limit myself and would skip the overwhelming majority of pairs, I reckon
But I am a lil stricter with that
Iâm hopeful for 3k selects too but idk if they will continue those with the daily gem deal. Not enough data (only one set of selects since itâs implementation)
But i not gonna select for 5/5 grids, i will be dead if i need to spend or put 5/5 effort for all of my faves 
3/5 is already enough for what DeNa want that unit do
At least one of those could potentially be made up for with legend BP tickets if you're down for that?
Yeah, I personally still expect them to show up, just with very limited pools
I gonna save next rainbow ticket, so that i can claim both bp master pairs on anniversary day
Wait. Was the SS Morty/SS Dawn and the other unit that was 3k paid before or after the daily gem thing lol
It was 3 units featured
Well if next month doesn't have any new support fave, mesprit gonna go up to 2/5 
I don't remember honestly, I just remember that was the only select I've ever done
Kinda like mesprit, it is good if i pair it with lussa or giovanni...well those that can benefit with sync
Yep i limit myself to a pity max, if i got 1-3/5 from it, i will just accept...i cannot commit more than 1 pity worth in a specific banner 
Hmm interesting
For me, I can't commit the large amount of gems to another dupe if I get one early
Don't share the same goals ofc, but I'm also not in a rush for some dupes / candies
*Also because old units can always be candied and can't get me 1/5 which is key, so gems are far more valuable to me
Select for me is just a random assortment, i could never be sure of what units will be in the select pool...so i never hope much
Unless fair select after this is like recent seasonal select, if then only we can get clear picture of fair selects
Thats why i didn't candy fall iris
I hope it will be like last seasonal select
I'm waiting to select Summer Hilda 
Ye hope so, except this time something I want would be cool
Anni plz be skip so I can save gems 
If it follow last select, it probably wont have palentine and ny and might have fall units so fall iris dupe 
I want anni to be unova VA level of boring update
Last anni was boring for me, well at least theres 1 fave...shaymin, big gems as well 
Skipped those rats and lucario
Lol blaziken, itâll be exciting in general since itâll be featured in direct hopefully for more than 10s. Hope itâs boring from your perspective tho
Hope to see Jessie James rerun in datamine 
I can't imagine having 54 favorites. Kind of ruins the word. Call them "tier 1 preferences"
Well unova was boring update for me coz no MF, no game breaking shit, no special favs
Colress not getting genesect was disappointing enuff to happily skip it
Maybe shiny genesect for colress soon

please... i can only hope.
colress getting an alt before nate
Well 14 of it are given free by DeNa
...2 in general pool
I mean, if a class of something is what makes up your favourites (legendaries/mythicals/UBs in their case), then sure, you have a larger number
Just a semantic thing at that point
Nothing changes in practice
Calling them favourites or using another word, I mean 
The fact that he's a spotlight unit while shit like Marnie is a PF is already painful enuff

Not even semantics really, can't define that for someone else
True i thought Faves are favourite units that i preferred among other pairs
...so kinda tier 1 preferences i guess 
Are you talking about personal preference or meta here?
I mean yeah like why not call them favs if they are your favourites really 
Doesn't matter how pepega the kit is
Does it really?
Yes
Yeap so I don't see the problem
...well i guess faves sounds better than darlings
The only real thing to consider is to know what you're signing up for
The average person in most cases should yeah, aim to cut down on their favs in determining what actually constitutes their "favs"
54 darlings
Favs being limited means I get satisfaction when I roll em and get happy
Looking at em as spooks giving PUs make me dead inside
Me with my 54 babes roster 
Are there favorites among your favorites?
Nope, i treated them equally
So how do you decide which to level up first đ€Ą
Well non legendaries, mythicals, UBs that i used in mainline games are given 5* 20/20 treatment but still level 135
I got thousands of exp books, i maxed them as soon as i got them 
I mean when it's coming down to levelling up first lol, there's not much to that
I meant power up, not literally levels sorry
If someone put a gun to your head and asked for your #1 favorite. Do you just randomly choose one
Wouldn't it just be the same as most people?
If it's between favs then often whatever you feel gets most out of it. Whichever you want to use for x reason etc
That doesn't rank favs
Well if you are talking about who i 150 first
I 150 legendary adventures units first, then master fairs, then OG/base character faves like lucas/gloria/N, currently im doing faves that have second form mega/form chance because they got twice the stats increase when change form
Oh also bp master units
Youâre one of the few who have the grids for BP master fairs unlocked
True, I def 150ed Archie early because he got a lot out of the stat boosts
Frankly, lv150s aren't something to stress over for how little they do
150 favs, 150 whatever
Still haven't finish mesprit 
High base atk units got more stats
Near 40 iirc
Low ones like Cyrus and Archie didn't rly gain much
But like 150 is fav territory anyways
But can feel the difference, if plus 3* type gear
140 0/20 Archie goes from 278 Sp. Atk, to 318 at 140 20/20, to then 332 Sp. Atk at 150 20/20.
Ultimately from 278 to 332
The stat increase from 150 is just 14, but that's still solid when lower stats make a bigger difference in a case like Archie for instance
Nah I said both
Some got more than 14
Giovanni gets like 50 or some shit
I said 140 0/20 is 278, that's 318 at 20/20, that's 332 at 150 20/20
Lusamine from 556 spatk to 584
So it's 318 to 332
^
I even said initially 150 doesn't even make all that much of a difference for units in general tbh, so "bigger difference" is still ultimately negligible
True
Some pairs' DPS are more heavily carried by diff aspects of their kit with others that are more lacking
So it's a bit case by case
Well I don't rly consider any boost less than 40% worth
Pretty much every 150 really
If you get 40% boost in an investment, it's worth
Else you leave at where it used to be
Idt you'll ever see a 40% damage increase which is what I consider most important, but if you just mean 40% in terms of the number going up
Since you can just high roll
I'm always looking at the damage increase, or bulk increase practically
Well if what Absol found out was true that we can level to 200 using certs...140 to 200 will be huge increase of stats
although i gonna do it step by step on which all faves already 150 and only then i move to 160
I can't imagine actually going to 200 

I would want to go to level 200 with a sync pair lol
Well some people already level 1000 certain lodge guest, some people might do the same like doing level 200 ash than other pairs they have 
Sure, but I mean more in terms of them actually making that a thing we can do 
Who knows though
It's going to be ash or SSTred for most players
Or whichever red version that's meta at the time it drops
Nah, level 200 Glacia
Still a far goal for me, im in the process of making my 37th 150...37/54 
Maybe i should do Gladion, so that he got more power 
Glacia, Blue Arcanine..
I still have like 7 more units to do 150 before starting to hoard em
So it'll take another 2 months
Taking my time with 150, sometimes I forget to exchange for the certs
I wish that there's more sources for certs, when all of my faves already level 150, i can start to make all of my other pairs to 140, for now all non faves are stuck at 135
They'll do it once they let us go higher levels I'd assume
Make it a reward for new game mode or csmm level 2 
Ngl csmm lv2 feels like pipe dream at this point
Keeping my hopes up that it comes with pml 2 arc after VA ends 
I feel that once we get to Galar CS maybe we get level 2 CSMM
I just hoard all my 150 certs after MF at 150
When I have enough to do like every zone/weather/rebuff unit maybe I'll do that
I was going to try hilbert olivia and diantha but just decided to off type
But next rock weak ill prob try them since this is the only one that has sentry entry iirc
Actually 8 150 targets
I thought arca blue was already 150
I just 150 my EXs or pairs I plan to EX very soon (and LA cuz they r a free EX)
Next pair will be SS Leaf if I can get 500 lodge stones before next month
I still need 6 certs maybe i can finish before next month
I feel a bit conflicted about my urges around move candy usage
I didn't have strikers and now I have too many
Most of my strikers dont need candies so im leaving them where they r (8 1/5 and 2 2/5), except ss hilda (1/5) and ny lisia (2/5)
Unsure if it's better to give ash his 3/5, or go for the new crobat lady
3 coins away so ill 3/5 lisia and then prob use my next ones on hilda if I dont have anyone else in the future
Ash would be mostly aimed towards brute forcing EBEs
I dont think he can w/o ssac and sstr
Does he need both?
His b-tbolt did less than plumeriaâs sludge wave and heâs 3/5
I have sstr
Using Ash without SSTred is like using a tech unit without EX and zone
Maybe not ssac if u have a good support
Offensively
I do have sstred
Defensively he dies quick coz no master passive
And my SSTred is 150 3/5 ex
Well aura Cyn isn't must have for ash ebe offregion yet
I've done with region boosted tank + double rats for every ebe so far
So far I'm still atoning from the sins of skipping her for colress
Gameplay rolling đź
It's just that colress ended up not being a pokefair
Which was what I was betting on
I kinda wanted her but ash didnt appear until 12th multi
I also just pitied for 2/5 ss steven (1/5 at 10th multi)
I could secure all 3
I had to pity both rats
And both frogs

Glad I zenned for em atleast
Else I'd be skipping em like a clown
I'm currently wondering if I should fanboy my way towards my next pull
Since now I kinda wanna have all champions in celebration for the masters 8
And all the fanservice around it
Yet, there's always the looming big batch from half anni
Can SS Morty support double strikers?
Always wondered if he can do as much offensive lifting as ingo
He's the best double striker enabler.....also I think you should move to #916852389347196958 if you want any gameplay advices rather than here
Since the purpose of this channel is zenning not gameplay
Fair
With half anni datamine upon us I want to make a reminder that this channel is for advice regarding resource management, and acts as the one safe space on the server that should be free from hype and pressure for pulling the shiny new units.
Feel free to discuss datamine stuff within the lens of managing your resources and encouraging others to save for what they really want, but extended discussions on kits should move to #poma-lounge or #916852389347196958
Thank you for understanding 
it's been a while since i saved
11k left to 150k
if they give us ingo bongo for anni i will keep saving on i will
Im at 2 sparks
2 sparks is the minimum sweet spot gratz
Been quite overdue, buuuuut
Goal reflection time!! Howâs everyoneâs progress holding up now that weâre close to Half Anni datamine? 
i'm doing fantastic
over 2 pities saved up
most gems i've ever saved, which feels nice
Iâm currently at 46k myself! Feeling pretty good at what next month will bring!
a lot of it is in part to me not caring about kalos
Near 50K, not horrible considering Calem ran with my gems
those are both great gem counts
I did pretty good getting up since I pitied back to back three times in a row.
props to both of ya
I got lucky ||on SS Diantha||, I can't keep counting on luck
We save here
My luck ||came pretty good with SS Lysandre and Emma||
But saving is 10x more important
im in a much better position than i was at 2.5 anni
I started at 2.5
My position is 10x better than I was then. I shaped up my gem habits a couple of months after that.
I got the typical beginner luck ||and pulled recklessly on all three anni units without a reroll, but I ended up getting all three units||
||I use Anni May a lot, then I got Zerena||
So four units I guess
Zerena is gonna be my proof of making up what I did badly before. Just hoping for her rerun soon.
||Then I made the mistake, pulled on Maxie before datamine. Don't get me wrong, I love Groudon, but it left me wide open for anni||
Hoenn VA bled me dryyyy
i have about two pities more saved than i did this time last year
currently at 79k, waiting for datamine
But it was probably the spark that made me save

I made a tough decision to save during UnoVA, but that opened ||frogs for me||
||and Anni Lillie||
Did I tell you how ||I was close to going for SS Hilda, but then the frogs came around?||
Same here

In hindsight, it was the best ingame decision I ever made
||Now I have both frogs, Anni Lillie and N||
And 50K

great, 11k from 150k
150k is my magic number and I don't even know why

im about uh
1/16th of the way to pity
diantha was not very nice
so im just rebuilding
I am at 25k gems but ||198/400 on ssdiantha banner so depending on datamine I'll decide if I should pity or not||
Close to a pity, going to save up until I have 36.6k take a pic then pull if thereâs smth I like
Hoping to see a full pity worth of March gems in that datamine 
Then Dena can act like Oprah
Crossed two pities, allocating one for half anni, other is for alola VA
34k with about 4k gems left according to the #1012256199128915968 , pretty happy atm
I really need to start saving for alola VA, but hopefully itâs not just a blonde family event and actually focuses on Alola 
Selene and Lana alt pls
Guzma pls
I want the tapus
||Admittedly, I did a few pulls on Emma a week or so back [because of boredom] and while I did get her without too much damage I'm still :( looking at my current gem count||
But, we're getting back to 36.6k, just gotta keep at it. I'm optimistic I'll have a pity before whatever hypothetical fave leaves. :)
And if there's no faves for half anni, that's all the better lol
If Iâm at 5.5k gems now, how long will it prob take me to get around 30k
Not much since we get 4k this month and definitely more than 30k next month
Damn so no pity for anni pairs
109.4k
I don't know what my goal was but my gem count is probably better than I even hoped for
Wanting multiple spotlights is something that puts me at dangerous odds
My original goal was to get all canon Unova. Colress, Hugh and classic elesa are the pairs I still need for that, so for such a goal, a pity should be enough
My second goal would be to have strong, satisfying teams for all types
So far, I'd say I could say that about Electric, Grass, Water, Dark, Rock, Ground, Poison, Dragon, Fairy and Ice
Donât forget you could also offtype 
I have some fringe types, which are likely strong enough, but I feel discomfort around
No real goal in mind other than waiting on Dojo Gloria to rerun and Alola VA, but climbing back to 80k 
I ||pulled on Emma and Lysandre but I didn't suffer a huge dent thankfully||
Get back to 2 pities and maybe 3 if I have no favs
I want Glojo rerun too 
Psychic, Steel, Fighting and Fire are fringe types for me
Psychic mainly because Giovanni is hard to fully accomodate
As in maxing out his multipliers, giving him spatk and also giving him terrain
And I'd also like to have his EX
Steel because I don't fully enjoy how grimsley plays out and my Raihan isn't candied yet
Also would rather play colress
Wait for alola VA, solgaleo
so far all the legendary adventures power boosts are great...so i have high hopes for solgaleo to be better than Gloria 
Fighting just doesn't feel super good, even among some spotlight peers
Kris, for instance, hits like a truck
Bea would have needed Ssa Cynthia to hit that hard
Fire is mainly due to a lack of a sun support, to allow me to go double strike
SolgaleoâŠ. 
Focus BlastâŠ
The pair must have the sync type for me to count it for my on type clears
I could use solgaleo as a back up
What kind of nitpicky expectation is that?
As long as he deals less damage than whoever is carrying him
I was angry that the best poison pair was a ground pokemon
Because I like the poison type
Koga nuke 
Koga 
Koga dps, however...
You nuke.
But yeah, Koga isn't bad
|| think of SS Giovanni's max move as if it were a sync move
||
Also
I was angry that eternatus, the only legendary poison type Pokemon that exists
Was a dragon pokemon
Despite having poison as it's primary type
Sure, it's signature is a dragon type move
I get why they have done it like that
But that also means that if the signature is what prevented it from being a poison pokemon
A poison legendary might never happen
Sure, ultra beasts are rare creatures as well
But I really wanted a poison eternatus in the game
As for my remaining goals
I'd like to find a way to feel good about bug
Which likely requires candying alder or pulling a new pair
Hilbert almost got me
Might still do
Ghost might be solved if I EX fantina
But wouldn't bet on it
I don't like darach, his dps is lame to use and doesn't even hit that high
So I guess I still need 4 or 5 pities to solve all my goals
Sounds like you lack Lati twins
I think lots of is prefer to monotype CS2k when possible
I think thatâs just a minority
Monotype is a type of challenge run, and most people donât do that
Perhaps itâs one of the more common challenges
It's common to use two pairs of the same type on the team - be that for a field effect, status condition, or simply as second dd. But putting a third pair on the team just to do a monotype run is a challenge, as said above. If it doesn't fit, don't push it.
I still use my annilillie for special fairy damage, gloria for physical fairy and lysandre for dark special damage while waiting for future faves that cover those 
114k
Aint gonna pull strong non faves unit just for those coverage 
But i gonna hopium that there would be faves with electric terrain/rebuff and fairy zone/rebuff in the future
I just need either of those 2 effects to bruteforce any entryx2

Oh forgot i already got genesect so only fairy
Miraidon? I kinda copium that itâll be free since itâll be easier to sell a fighting type than an electric type
||Even tho Iâm at a disadvantage on steel poison and fairy, all I care about is saving||
Yep i copium either miraidon or tapu koko for terrain
Hey guys should I be pulling dailies
I mean I get 300 paid daily
Should I save or spend the gems
Cause I heard that the dailies are good deals but also not
thatâs up to your discretion, personally i like to save my paid gems for select scouts
Ok
dailies are not a guarantee of anything so it often feels like throwing money away
but obviously it works sometimes
Yeah thatâs what I thought
Iâm having trouble saving lol
It just feels so good to pull
with both EX bundles you will quickly accrue more paids than you can spend on select scouts unless you also do tier scouts
Iâve actually never got something off a daily
Ok thanks
I only do dailies for filling pity, i might change my mind if they make daily discount give 3 pity points and not 1 like now
I do both cause I want to
Yeah it removes the whole purpose
I guess itâs based on how many gems you spend not how many pulls you do
Yea, unless youâre a big spender, paid gems should only be used for selects imo
i personally do not like dailies bc i dislike the daily disappointment of getting 
I personally donât feel comfortable spending money if i know thereâs a 98% chance of failure
Say if a banner lasts 20 days, thereâd still only be a 1/3 chance of success
Only time I'll see me doing dailies is for a banner I wanna keep supporting 
PSA, please be mindful when talking about pulling. This is meant to be a saving thread and a safe space to stop others from temptation. Spoil any pull mentions you can. Thanks! 
Would that be an 80% chance to get a five star?
Sorry
Agreed. If its actual money, Iâd rather I know what Iâm paying for and that Iâd guarantee it. Like a select.
99.98 98.62% chance, but if Iâm spending money on a banner then Iâm looking for the featured unit. A 5* for me just means a
unless Iâm lucky
Wait i did math wrong
Itâs 98.62% chance
As long as fail is an available option, i will never be comfortable...sure there's 90+% chance to succeed...but i can always be one of the guys in the remaining 10%
Even if you do get a 5*, most of the time that doesnât even mean much unless youâre new
Sorry mean featured unit
Said that wrong
Yep, although i still missing about 4/5 general pool units but my roster is already very big enough that I don't think i need those that i missed urgently 
Oh featured unit, thatâs only a 55% chance. Might sound good, but you wouldnât rely on Zap Cannon/Inferno to hit when you want it, right?
Wait in 40 pulls for a pokefair banner thatâs a 55% chance?
Thatâs really low tbh
You can't just multiply 40 by 2%, that's not how probabilities work
40 rolls of a 2% rate is 55.43% chance, yes
How do you do the math
Otherwise 50 attempts would give you 100%
Thatâs what I was always confused about
It's 1 - (0.98)^40
I.e. you find chance of not getting a unit and substract it from 100%
But just because you have a 95% probability to get something doesnât mean you will get something⊠||Just look at Poceâs Emma pulls for example||
If 50 attempts are enough to get the unit, why do the pity system need to exist 
Listen ok Iâm dumb
At least you asked about it instead of assuming the incorrect info
yes
Cause I wanna know if weâll know who they are before the current banners go away
||He had to pity for a single copy, but he also kept running out of gems, and he only had the non-deal gems available to him in the shop⊠He had to grind for a few gems from events and pay the full price of gems for the rest||
well if the half anni has your favorites
I cannot give verdict till i see their kits
Geeez
Weâll know them before the Kalos VA leaves, but the Palentines units will leave before we know
They leave today right?
yes
By the way I heard rumors of a video coming tonight
With a half anni unit
Is that true?
The chance of getting the specific old one you want in 36 600 gems is less than 50% btw 
We have no clue
You mean in the seasonal selects?
Cause I got both the ones I wanted
I think last year there was a video released showing 1 half anni unit around this time
Ohhh yeah
May right?
I meant the seasonal spotlight scout
Lana Kiawe Elio Selene alts for Alola VA would make me whale đ«¶đœ
Actually itâs 100 because you get to choose at 36.6k đ€
yeah, I lack them
I have one
I meant the rate of getting them before pity
Stay saving!
I have so many spotlight pairs I'd be happy about getting that currently, the chances of getting a pair I want from a random pull are nearing 6%
some due to collections, others because I actually wanna play them
then be happy about it
at this point I'd be more excited by shiny Perserkerr than a spotlight
Still 0 shiny in my first batch 
I hope i got all 3 so that my shiny eggmons collection grows to 30
i need to delete some eggmons from prof
im constantly full
gotta make google spreadsheet
shame we cant favorite them or something
I only keep my shiny dupes in daycare so I have like ~10 rn


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