#Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)
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Classic elesa and I'll have all limited canon Unova pairs
What I feel like it's far away is having high caliber carries for all types
next month might be tough on you
and next VA
ah no, it's not Vantner speaking nevermind!
Am tempted to look in gacha and flex
RESIST!
February has a pair I'm most certainly going for
Iirc it's just one
by next month I meant half anni, sorry
Oh
altho that was directed at Vantner, because it's sure to contain more legendaries
- Alola VA is the same
Unova might get... non canon ghetsis standalone MF sometime
Just mute the channel
Its muted
Guys I am in a situation
Since SCjasmine has rerun in shorter terms since anni I have had a favorite release every month since then, Victor Calem & Serena Kris Lyra Jasmine and then diantha, and now it’s Elesa with a new alt I really want to get back to saving 2 pities which I am close I’m at 30K rn but idk if I should wait for her rerun next year which will have mallow and appletun and that’s another big fav and wouldn’t mind having to pity on that rerun banner
I just want to get my barring together and start saving again
I feel so uncomfortable spending without 2 pities on hand all the time so thoughts?
If you can afford to select it's better to wait for it
Since we also have half anni nearby and palentines don't run till the datamines
If you can't do select, I guess maybe bite the bullet 
Coz rolling in a 6 featured unit banner doesn't sound fun
Let alone wanting 2 units
Also if you are missing any of the existing favs, you should be saving for those and being without pity would just make it risky, especially if elesa and/or mallow isn't a top fav
Idc about half anni unless favs lel
But last half anni had Serena so I should be careful
That's my point
Didn't they release like 5 limited units that month alone 
If elesa/mallow isn't a top fav it's not worth risking the chances
Thats a lot of units to pity
had what...?
that's not half anni
Ig was around half Anni
im expecting 3-4 master fairs before summer event
and these are the units with highest production values usually (always unique sync animation etc)
I think they get more promo material
only some seasonals and poke fairs seem to get more marketing
no video for Fall 2022, NEO Champions got a video, VAs get rallies and vids along with anniversaries
I’m still just gonna do Zerena rerun cope 
GiraCynthia rerun 
SAME FOR THAT TOO
sigh
why did the first Palentine's banner had to be Mallow and not Elesa?
now I have to wait two more days
and I can't take a break from the game either because I also gotta continue farming lucky cookies from LG7 in hopes of completing that one mission that would net me even more gems
You're trying to complete Lucky skills mission?
no, just one specific General Mission
Anyone here who has save up to 100k gems and did pulls to under 10k?
How did you recover from that
Bruh, it’s 10 gems
You can afford to take that one slow
Continue saving?
Continue saving yeah
im having a mental crisis
i wanna pull for the anniversary steven before hes gone but im afraid i character i want will come after hes gone as well so im so dang conflicted about it
i got like 47k gems saved rn but im not sure if steven is worth it even tho i love him
Do you want anyone coming this month?
But Anni Steven is a big fave?
steven in general is a fave
Well this month + what you have now will total up to 2 guarantees worth of gems. Make of that what you will
We get 28k+ this month. If you don't want anyone else, you'll have a pity at the end of it.
well, the only sync pair that is specifically coming this month that I really want is Pal Elesa, the hurry is moreso because of the other banners that are leaving this week
I wasn’t asking you that question, but ok
if thats the case i could just not pull for leon then thats what im now thinkin
i just like feelin rich
Pulling just because you can is not a good idea
Save for that fave you want
Make a specific fave list, write it down
i was saving to see if raihan would have a banner in the future then use 40k gems and also get guaranteed piers
that was my plan
Well, continue following it then. Seems like a decent plan.
i think i will stick to my guns and wait and get steven in the future maybe on a different banner
Anni Steven?
any steven i don't complain which version
he is a fav no matter what hes wearing or who hes paired with
Raihan is in the Monthly Scout.
He’ll always be in there.
Unless you mean Anni Raihan?
i dont discriminate i take any version i can get
But you can get more Stevens. Every Steven, if you save for it.
Oh no no I get that. I was asking for clarification.
if that version comes around i will pull for it
i mean that do sound nice
raihan is like number 2 for me but then steven is number 3
they do be neck and neck
Why don’t you make a favs tierlist?
i only have 4
So Steven, Raihan, and who else?
piers and wallace
Luckily Piers and Wallace can come anytime.
like in order
1 piers
2 raihan
3steven
4wallace
im very glad that piers is always accsessable
There will be a free Steven at the of the month
Both are in general pool
In the free ticket scout thingy
there will?
So here’s a fact I want to plop down
Anni Steven is a Master Fair, and this is his rerun. We will not know when he will be back.
Regular.
that is also good
i consider that to which i why i wanna pull for him because idk when hell be returning but im also scared that ill use to many gems and won't have enough if perchance anni raihan comes back
like sooner rather than later
So here’s my other thought
We have 27k left for this month
If you go to pity, you will have time to save for one more pity before Anni datamine (not exact, but close)
okk
Take it as you will.
||it makes me think now i rlly wanna pull for steven||
I can’t decide for you, but I wanted to lay some facts.
thank you so much
Oh and please spoil pull mentions btw!
We’re trying not to tempt others here~ ^^
how do i dothat
thank you

||i think ill try pulling for him||
||I wish you luck, you can post in #gacha-and-flex ||
||The result highlights the importance of saving, but at least you got that Piers you wanted too||
||i'd say it was worth i love piers ands steven and now i can save for raihan and wallace||
Will have 4 pities by the end of next month, ||well some of them will go to sslysandre
||
I will have at least 2 pities by end of month going into half anni
As long as that gets me by + i have at least 1 pity going into alola VA for ss guzma, i feel good
Oh right, hope half anni have a lot of gems 
Alola VA looks to be deadly for my gems ||especially after seeing kalos part 2 scenes||
||that wormhole was so goofy, lol||
i have my rule of not watching the scenes before official release ||so i still have to wait 2+ weeks to see it||
||that will pave the way for rocket admins to have UBs, so bye2 gems
||
What if professor Bellis gets a sync pair?
I hope its a cool pair
I will grab any Legendaries, mythicals, UBs
Oh and paradoxes

Pokemon that prof bellis might have probably gyarados
Iirc gyara eggmon event stated all the eggs was brought by prof bellis
Waiting for more playable OC, playable Paulo and Tina when?
Professor Bellis and Ditto
Which would explain the endless egg amount
Ditto's passive would transform it into the opposing center sync pair
Which would give your team the boss passives the enemy has
Statline would be fixed
Or could remain unchanged
Imagine a support that could steal boss passives
They will need to release ditto eggmon eventually, they have to finish kanto 
I wonder if DeNa will ever release Pasio tag
give more value to MC pairs and Lear
also pave way for more Pasio characters
how many pasio characters are there, anyways?
there’s only like 10-15 total, right?
I just noticed that all Champions are strikers 
Kanto-Blue Pidgeot
Johto-Lance Dragonite
Hoenn-Steven Metagross
Sinnoh-Cynthia Garchomp
Unova-Alder Volcarona
Kalos-Diantha Gardevoir
Alola-Hau Raichu
Galar-Leon Charizard
i feel like geeta will change that
with the crystal poison thing i forget the name of
glimmora
Glimmora
pretty sure he isnt
No tag
there isnt an alola champion
i don’t think either kukui or hau is a champion
Anyways
because
Ash exists
this was before challenging the league
Ash also striker
But ash isn't tagged as a champion, iirc
Glimmora poison striker
with toxic shenanigans. Hope she can rival emma lol
I want dark faves, still have hope for guzzlord, galar moltres, hoopa unbound and single strike urshifu to be dark 
I can finally retire lysandre from doing dark weak cs if i got them
we have too many dragon pairs
so guzzlord being dark would be great
and if multistrike urshifu is water, single strike should be dark
but then again, that’s asking for consistency with typing from dena
lmao
Iirc there was an event somewhere (probably the elio/selene trials event) where Kukui asked Kahilli to be the Alolan Champion (since she had once been the Island Challenge Champion), but she said no
Neo Champion Kahilli Confirmed 
Dena can fix two types by releasing two versions, shiny and non shiny, give both different types ...just like rayquazza dragon and shiny rayquazza flying 
and yet none of the crobats are flying
But man, DeNa releasing more shinies means my faves amount are doubled 
Shiny Regice would be really funny
Im excited for anni, cannot wait to see what new 2 bp master units i will get 
I will save my next ticket
4k bp now
Almost halfway there
I wish they would make a BP and Main Story candy, I want to invest in Mesprit and Cobalion but I have too many other supports 
last time they gave out a ticket for when they added 2 new bp master units
im hoping for dragon and electric tho tbh
They are not worth candying unless fave, i candy them because i already done with 3/5 all of my limited fair support faves
i’m still sitting on 2 master tickets because i don’t care for either nita or regirock lmao
If the trend continues with no new support faves on march, Mesprit will get my next support candy
Hopefully the mf in the 2nd half of march won’t be a fave
my guess is its going to be Zapdos
Seeing zerena popping out of nowhere on march, it might be a master pair that have no ties to current events...smells like Palmer sinnoh pride MF 
cuz its a pokemon of a trio we havent gotten any of yet
Heatran/Regigigas Palmer 
i’m really surprised palmer isn’t in the game yet
after being in the animated trailer
striaton bros and rocket admins as well, but to a lesser extent because they are In The Game, just not usable
Ryuki moment
Rocket admins might be playable later 
MAN i feel sorry for the 12 ryuki fans out there
Don't think so, Glimmora is a pretty offensive mon but DeNa might ignore that, or maybe not
a tech with toxic debris would make sense
He also got his signature stolen in the same month he was first released, forcing him to get turtonator
Like I said Glimmora is offensive so 
As long as it poisons the enemies and not Poison Damage Field, I’ll be happy
Wait Turtonator is not his ace?
Oh guys after careful thinking, i wont buy egg pass and stuffs for meowth eggmon event
Kommo-o is his final, Turtonator is one of his mids
Hot Take: Rock Damage Field is only lackluster because DeNA panicked and slapped Resistance 9 on practically everything
Also will ||only probably 1/5 sslysandre, kalos part 2 scenes gave me uneasiness for alola VA||
No pull for dupes
So Poison Damage Field won’t necessarily face the same problem
Oh I thought his ace was Turtonator sinc he looks like one
Why would they not slap resistance on everything
Oh right the new leonzard have fire damage field, lets see how it goes 
What does damage field do?
when the enemy takes an action, it also gets damaged for a minor amount of typed damage
So like trap?
rn the only ones are rock (bertha hippowdon stealth rock) and fire (leon charizard max move)
yeah, like trap
but it applies to the entire field at once and deals typed damage
so it can be super effective
Gordie max move too
wouldn’t know
i’ve used gordie maybe once
i should use him more, he sounds like reyn and that’s funny
I don't have either Bertha or Gordie so 
OOOOOOF
dang
only 2 units I don't have fron gen pool that I want is Burgh and Colress
The rest, don't really care
I still have 0/5 gordie melony colress shauna
Shauna is expected
GOD i wish i had colress
he’s one of my favorites
but i will never spend a gem on a spotlight
I would've, since 4th top favorite but next month was 
Kinda was going to do the same thing for Emma until it was revealed she was a fair so 
Didn't really matter in the end
guess i’ll keep waiting until either the ticket pool is updated or i get colress from random chance
Been saving for the ticket pool update since like Looker spotlight
it's half a year 
Yup my perception of time is messed up
Didn't last year so
EXCUSE ME
he takes like 25 turns to be fully set up
cuz you gotta use mud slap 6 times, use electro web 6 times
probably use mud slap or electro web more because the opponent buffed themselves
Guy was great in LA/LG
Still is
Using him to beat Tapu Bulu 
I forgot she exists tbh
Saving mine for shauna and hopefully serena dupes for the delphox frame
Luckily she’s 3/5 so I dont rlly need to use the tickets rn
I used him for the first time last week, he’s pretty good w ghetsis since he sets up his nuke
Or, you could solo latias with him 
I wonder if i should ex clemont, he’s such a nerd 
||My
reserve has fallen under 200 (and less than 550
), so I might wait a bit||
bruh my
has never reached the 3 digits before
My
rarely reach 2 digits lol
I really wish I can go back to the 3 digits but 2 EXs will be out of my stash 
I had
close to 100 but I apparently had an aneurism and spent them all on characters I sold their Free PUs on
So I needed to EX those with 
Hopefully I can get back to the number of my previous stash
Silver and Ghetsis
I need to save
from lodge morty, im dangerously low
need to prepare for march
But I managed to also EX the Frogs and SSDiantha so I am happy with what I did
The 100 Pulls should guarantee me some nice Gold PUs
I still want to EX Bede Anni Raihan Sonia and SS Diantha rn atleast
Maybe a few other supports
I wont hope much, last time it only gave me 3 5* 
But i might can get more
i want to 5* thorton, siebold, viola
Yes 5* Siebold 
But only 5*, i wont
him 
ik, still a win
I 5*'d Siebold but it'll take him a few more impressive LG performance before I EX him
I plan to 5* all 3* and 4* base units that have
treatment...kinda as a sign of gratitude
Also want to see how fare their stats compared to base 5*
Oh right, i can exchange for
this reset 
I 5*d siebold cuz I heard he was a good water type when I was new, but now im good for special water
Viola I used for debuffing so I 5d her, thorton I did recently I think to have all EXable pairs 5 or 6EX
me too
Not bad for all multipliers maxed out zone rebuff and rain
\4

viola outnukes base genesect too anyways
Maxing out all her multipliers is not exactly feasible if you are using sshilbert and ingo as partners that post was a meme anyways lel
SShilbert, SSingo means no rain for my viola
No bug zone 💔
Bugzone unit that has rebuff/rain 
Her nuke being that low has never made sense to me as she and calem have very similar stat allocations along with multipliers but hers feels way lower
oh you meant you can't fit all 3 on one team
Calem relatively easier to set up
i get ya
Than viola
I already 5 starred all my 4 stars haha
i thought you were saying there was no rebuff unit
co-op viola nuke
Like a raid boss battle on other gacha games? 
Raid boss in Poma is a dream
But I don't want it to happen without guild feature
Else I am just gonna see rats in the lobby 
As long as guilds don’t have too great rewards (or are really easy to get rewards from), I’ll be happy, so that it isn’t P2W
Cuz if getting rewards was somewhat difficult, guilds demanding people to spend money would pop up
I want to see some effort for rewards
Like the rewards should be more like skins rather than units or gems
Oh yea that’s fair
So you get smth for hardcoring
If it’s like Skill Spheres and Sync Orbs (like CSMM 10K Pts), I’d be happy
Else it just becomes whatever the hell we are doing in LG

Imagine going 100 streak and still get nothing notable
Tbf people do that with 10k pts; it’s also meaningless to most players
LG has no cap to aspire to beat
I agree with this, if not it will be like, you cannot join this guild if you are not 2 million collective strength 
Imagine not being at 2mn str already

The actual requirment would be more like : "must have both master fair pikachus" or some shit
Johtrio guild
I have johtrio Lemme join
Typhlosion, meganium and feraligatr
...50615 gems...
Nice work!
Never really looked at tiered scout before today but that shit looks expensive
Yes it is
Only seasonal rerun and spotlight tiered are a bit cheaper
But new seasonal unit tiered is outrageous
112,885

These two are close as well
Gem Zen, I have made it to 6 figures gang
Congrats! 
big baller congrats
||It will only stay that way for a few days at most because I'm pulling for Bede||
But i'm skipping everything in february
So come half anni I'll be prepared
I am getting tempted to spend on pelesa and I need help to save
Don't do it 
Going to wait her banner out doubt I will get lucky
Resist the temptation 
For the sake of trying I shall
If you submit to temptation I will be sad ☹️
She is not a even a true striker
Stats and moves she is peripherally
With Spring Burghs gimmick of metronome
Master fair morty and gengar when🤔
As now 5th Morty and no Gengar😞
It's an exception cause Gastly is adorable
Palelesa has a super effective gimmick, but the only move type that's guaranteed to be super effective is flying due to her sync 
Oh wait she also have fly
Smh morty and gengar never
Morty & Giratina will happen before Morty & Gengar
I hate the fact that this is plausible
Morty spectrier 
Morty's popular enough to get a random legendary haha
Excited for half anni
hope to have some fave
Shame that they have already shown that he has a regular one, a shiny tentar would be nice
Volo & Giratina when?
Armlo do NOT fall into metronome hell
I shall not
maybe she will be in a paid select one day
She def will
Oh right, half anni might have selects
I will grab if there's fall Iris, ssleon, sshilda
I am planning to grab hjasmine hleon or pal marine if they are in there
current pal units will probably be on a 4.0 anni select scout fwiw
that would be true
too bad that means absolutely nothing to me because select scouts use paid gems
I know I am not the topic here, but I just felt like I should mention that not everyone uses select scouts
hence the fwiw
ah
anyway, I really hope I can get Pal Elesa without wasting too many gems
...sure, I have over 50k gems now, but
...it would be nice to still have a lot of gems left after getting Pal Elesa
Looks like you and I have the same favorite pokemon. Got over 60k myself. May luck be with us both tomorrow...!
Guys is it worth pulling for mallow or save for elesa
Do you have a pity saved? Is Mallow a fave of your?
This thread is mainly focused on saving for favorite trainers/Pokémon or your goals in collecting, better ask general strategy if you want an input on meta, otherwise pull who you like the most if they are faves
And be sure to have a pity
I have 5k gems still saving 😫
Maybe I'll stick to elegant
Elesa
Thnx for the advice
Dont pull without having a pity
Maybe wait for half anni
Sure they'll be gone but other faves may be released
And will be better
Well can wait for the rerun too
Waiting for rerun means being ready to pity more than ever because seasonal rerun rates horrible
If you use paid gems, waiting for a select is a good choice. Otherwise, wait for her rerun and be ready to cough up a pity
gotta love 0.33% rate
Saving pity is more important now, seems like DeNa is shifting towards ||pulling the units when its first release is better||, VA units doesn't rerun on VA's rerun. Also, seasonal rerun will be dumped in that super seasonal banner that becomes much worse as the years passes as more units will be in the pool. ||VA units first rerun lately is in paid selects instead||
Well, yeah, I am just hoping I don't need to get to that point
May luck be on both our sides 
we always hope we don't hit pity but it's still best to prepare for the worst outcome
Am at 28K. The grind continues for ||Emma and 3rd anni||
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst 
Tell me not to pull 😭
How many more gems before Emma's arrival?
do not pull
save your gems for half anniversary
Me hoping for a johto and alola roster fix during half anni
March is gonna be half Anni, very possible it will be with MFs or that will have a MF immediately after that, then April could see another 4 units during a SC event, May could be Alola VA already

Johto roster fix? Johto is great now
Mine sucks
Alola though, definitely needs the boost
What on earth
UnoVA would kinda like new MFs as well
Galar is kinda mid as well
Ss morty is one of the best units hands down
Paired with silver
Absolute monsters
Silver is cope unit
I want my 200 BP DD
With a nuke
Not a 160 BP <300 atk meme
Shiny Entei 
It gives me a reason to hoard
Dena seem to miss hints sadly

They messed up by releasing frogs as champion pairs
On the other hand, Unova has enough good units that they're strong enough even without new MFs
They keep botching VAs tbh, UnoVA was so bad, Kalos as well, very underwhelming, saved by the frogs
Kek
The EBE was just... Bad at showcasing SSN's potential because it overlapped too much with what Ghetsis can already do. I don't mind one bit tho 
They could even stop Cyrus in Bertha ebe
I am talking abt Rosa ebe
Ghetsis was still like 2nd best pick for slot

Ghetsis unstoppable
The frogs are busted
Yeah, general quality of the pool is high, with Victini being the outlier of the new units, followed by Hilbert (who however is more a jack of all trades than anything). They still miss a team like Lati twins and Deoxys, the frogs or the rats, though
Johto also has Lugia and Suicune and Celebi SS Morty and any grass dps
Unova always got high end stuff
Oh you mean synergy wise? Yeah i don't mind
They have train Bros
SS Hilda and SS hilbert where pretty good for the uno a va
Zekrom+Hilbert
They shine individually so I'm not tempted to pull one after getting the other just for complete synergy
Hilbert is too jacked as a dps himself he doesn't care who he gets to pair with
Even then scingo gives him 100ish atk just by being in team and zone
If you are looking for synergies that is
They have good synergies as well, the bros and iirc Summer N and SC Rosa play off well with each other
It’s more a desire for a great tier 0 option for the region in the form of a new powerful MF, UnoVA has the oldest MF alongside Galar and Hoenn
At least unova VA gave us probably the best ice DPS so far | SS Hilbert |
Unova always had the best ice dps under their belt 
It just moved to someone else from unova
Wouldn't be surprised if ice zone unit is also unova 
They still got white kyurem left afterall
Tbh, I hope that the 3.5 Anni surprises us with aligning the type chart for CS and releasing the Galarian birds, they are probably the region hurting the most rn in terms of top tier options
My hopes of Nate with White Kyurem were destroyed thanks to Kalos VA confirmation
Would be interesting an hail unit that has a passive that sets ice zone every time someone sets hail
Galar is already a top tier typing
I don't think they need anything more limited 
Biggest issue with galar is free stuff is basically non existent aside from hop
Easiest way would be to release another free story pair
that stems from them never making more low gacha units since lucy
You can get some free units with the galar scout tickets
Yea that too
so all galar units are 5* aside from lodge
it was on plum's banner iirc
Ah right
Putting her in one of the worst spotlight units as a rate up and they decided 4*s don't sell 
I think everyone should have at least hop + a random general pool galar unit (assuming no galar units ever pulled from random scouts and the galar scouts ended up all with the same result)
Cami do you think they'll ever release more low gacha units 
They completely shifted their priorities and it shows, nowadays they wouldn’t ever release a unit as strong as May was at the time as a permanent pool character, Victor showing how they would’ve handled her now
why would they
Actually how was the Lucy banner implemented? What was her featured rate? It can't be 2% since she's not a base 5* right
I know people that only got piers and sonia from galar tickets so 
The Lowest gatcha unit they released recently is Shauna
It's not realistic to hope everyone would have Nessa or bea
so I can have more galar options.....
full galar support team 
curb your enthusiasm theme plays
Patiently waiting for 3rd Sonia, meanwhile I’m at 3/5 Melony 

it was better than plum's first banner that she shared with guzma at 1% each
Even 5* regular pool units are becoming a Rarity
The last time they released 4* gatcha units, they where poke fairs
I don’t even remember this stuff, banners were so all over the place lol
Atleast they gave one Sawyer copy free
Thinking back I wish it was Rachel
Since I use her more than him
they had no idea what they were doing the entire first year of the game

Yes one was f2p the other was pokefair
Oh, it was a plumeria rerun?
Wow, they made her rerun have better rates than the debut?
It was also the year where stuff released before anni was the better one
Coz it was pokefair 4*s with a dedicated sync Accel meme
Kinda reminds me of whatever they are doing this year
I wish I was playing when they gave sawyer for free 
Now it's a pokefair
they reran in lear's banner
and also were very low rates in the NY tickets in 2022 iirc
And they were in a select randomly, no?
No
you couldnt select them
They havent been in any selects
you cant select 4* units
I have this vivid memory of Rachel spooking me in a select banner, must be hallucinating
You can get them i guess, but not select
they were in the PF select with lear at 2.5 anni actually at around 1% rate
but you couldnt select them
Oh
Oh okay, makes sense then lol
rachel is still probably the rarest unit in the game in terms of number of players that have her
maybe some MF is rarer, or maybe jessie and james at this point
They should give Rachel and Sawyer a 5* SS running alongside a Lear MF
Unlike a unit that dropped a month before anni
Rachel and sawyer should just be on all pokefair banners as 4*s
I doubt any MF is rarer than Rachel
Lmao
Maybe Steven, but he probably has enough fans to be widely available
||i pulled on the lear banner specifically for rachel||
Anni Steven was bashed to death
Summer one was first infinite hail unit
Anni Steven was still the majestic black rayquaza
I am psure Archie on release was based more than anni steven
It's just time didn't do any favors for the latter while former gained stronger and stronger comps
Supreme taste
Anni Steven's release remains the funniest time I've experienced on this server
the discourse 😭
Lol yeah so much fight about him
He’s good no he’s bad no he’s fine no he’s not worthy of being master
Funny
Meanwhile I’m just drooling over his stylish suit
Calcs always showed that he was strong though
Steven was and is just mid in terms of dps
Tbh it wouldn’t bother me if he had anything other than shorts, but those are just 
He's still worthy of MF tbh
It's relatively ez setup , 200+ BP move
It's just hoenn still remains a very poor roster in terms of synergy outside that 1 psychic team
MFs are just rewards for popular characters anyway
And none of em in that team is MF
Hoenn supports being carried only by Latios 
I am fine with not pressing that mega at all
Just sync with Skyla 
Oh yea I still don't have a good hoenn tank
I should put that in my bucket list for half anni look outs

Tbh if Hoenn had the equivalent of SS Morty, May and Maxie would have the perfect Hoenn companion
Phoebe and Roxanne not committing it for ya?
In general the Hoenn and Johto synergy is great
(remember not to get too into meta talk in this thread, y'all)
Roxanne dying in 3 turns in a double dps comp 
(particularly in regards to pulling)
Currently very satisfied with my saving and the fact that despite all the ship hype, I feel 0 desire to pull Mallow lol
Saving means more gems for something you like
My absolute priorities right now in terms of saving is 3.5, since typing of CS seems to hint at the possibility of Galarian Birds and Marnie and Moltres are one of my most anticipated units
Most realistic approach is looking back yourself and think "Would I even use this over what I already have"
Yeah, sometimes you just don’t realize how much redundancy there is
Coz 99% of cases that already kinda strips out if it's a fav or not
Gauntlet skewing people’s perception hard, imho
Considering that you are only gaining 5 tickets every two months for every new unit you get, very bad idea to pull for it
So no point to roll smth exclusively for gauntlet
Since whatever fav you roll is still workable there
Gauntlet made me appreciate bpclemont, lodgeblue, lodgeraihan, straight up 5* 20/20 them...they are so good 
Yeah the only meta is to pull for every unit no matter what… and that road leads to ruin
Yeah, even if you’re pulling for meta, regions and then types should be ranking higher, not that meta pulling is ever worth it, but that’s beside the point, because in the end you’re very rarely using a unit if you’re pulling it just to potentially cover a specific weakness down the line
Biggest meme shit I see with meta rollers is "hey it's water/fire/dragon/psychic type so it's totally skippable since I have the X option already"
Like bro, you are rolling smth that offtypes and potentially offregion some ebes , why does type even matter 
For me meta rolling is smth one should do only if they can afford to go through that path
Even if willing to skip favs......which I Defo don't recommend
This was me because I started playing the game for Anni Steven and Anni N
Did I know anything about his kit? No I just pulled because he looks gorgeous
Me also coming (back) because Guzma and Masked Royale some time ago, then leaving because I got them
Then Urshifu came in and I didn't realize Fairs were limited in some capacity so I was like "oh I can just get it later" 
this idea is what stopped me from going for pal mallow
i like her outfit and adore appletun but i just cant see myself using her enough to justify a potential 36.6k price tag
My answer to this would be "yes, especially if it's a support which is an extra body in LG" but I can't afford pulling just for a gamemode. Gotta save for faves
Anything is usable in LG
Why would you roll for it at all
When you can make your fave work there anyways
Instead of a 1 time use gameplay unit
The nice thing about support favs is you can flex them out onto almost any type of team
Excluding dragon (and maybe psychic) water and fire are the ones with the most 1.5x field effect setters, so those types are the best at offtyiping, you can probably run 5 rain or sun teams in Champion stadium
Plus gauntlet is a thing, so any good unit matters, regardless of the type
If i pulled just for types I'm lacking, i would have definitely pulled for SC Lisia
I'm lacking a bit in fairy physical damage (if only Gloria had play rough accuracy +10 in grid)
I've just been using Mina for physical fairy since there's stuff I don't have but I try to make things work
Yes mina is probably my best fairy physical option
I never roll for types either
my usual priority is "is it a fave character or Pokemon? > what can I use it for (if someone else I have already is better)"
usually the first question is all I need to be answered bc I've a very small list
I just see a unit, if I like it I wait till next datamine then roll
Or just skip
My usual priority is I have enough for pity? Yes: evaluate options, No: Skip no matter what
I should be a bit conservative, because if i don't have enough for pity by the end of a banner is a must skip even if it's something 10x stronger than Deoxys
I rarely stay at a gem count not enuff for pity by the end of the month
But then I did skip SCrosa coz not enuff gems for pity back then
And I kinda regret it 
Hopefully she reruns soon
Galar has one of the best steel types and ice types, steel zone, 2 rebuff units, some very good supports, atleast 2 great debuffers, and prob the 2 best grass strikers
She was the last unit I skipped eventho fav
Problem is that if i summon something that i can afford, if i get shafted i may end up having to skip top tier units
Now I should start giving priority to zones, rebuffers
Skipped too much zones
why?
Types without/zones rebuffs have less potential
potential to do what
i mean, if the numbers give you dopamine, sure, they're your gems
I mean is funnier to clear CS with Valerie using SS wally support, than going op striker
I mean so far i have no problems clearing 2k, so isn't that i really need anything in particular
lol
This is funnier than going giga impact with lisia
i wouldn't have pulled wally if he wasn't a favourite
Fairy was kinda struggling for me, now i have no problems dealing with fairy weak on type
Maybe if it's wise entry x2
In that case, dojo Gloria or Kris with the frogs will probably do the job
I struggle with fairy even with diantha without entry passives
So I just go offtype
My strongest fairy type is probably 1/5 p Serena, but generally is enough with SS wally
a lot of cs stuff is circumventable through unconventional methods
Tbf it's not just zones
Scingo is clearly not a better roll than SCemmet or SShilbert
While SSwally is a far superior unit than most fairy beat sticks
beat sticks?
However in CS generally my go to damage dealers are either Bede, or Lillie/Lisia (regular)
Well CS is ez if you are doing stuff properly
The thing is it's not fun doing the same rotation every fight
Most CS fairy weak stages do evasion stuffs, so Clefairy or altaria are my best picks
Generally my rule to clear CS is, 2k, presync, -2 sync (if possible) no RNG allowed
why no RNG
There are people that like to do solo, some like to do monotype, i like to do no RNG
It means that even with worst possible luck i should have 100% chance to win
seems boring, i feel like that just limits you to stronger units
Yea
Not really
but if that's what u enjoy
More like stronger tanks
I do it even with weaker units
Coz if they start with close combat and you use Roxanne then 
you could do it with even weaker units, if you allow some reset luck and whatnot
In that case i shouldn't use Roxanne to tank
which could prevent you from having to pull zone units mindlessly
The point is that the weaker units should still be 100% reliable, isn't that hard
I mean there are some limitations, but i do clears even with stuffs like valerie
if you're already clearing 2k with valerie why bother with pulling fairy zone? was it one of the weaker cs regions?
I can clear 2k with Valerie because I have fairy zone
oh you alrdy have wally
nevermind
can probably do it without fairy zone with good move rng and strong tanks, but wally streamlines it
but of course you don't like rng
I allow RNG in gauntlet, because i just need the streak, no reasons to make it harder
Or for extreme battles if i need to
I just do 3 unit team for gauntlet, if it clears I continue else I reset 
Ain't using too much brain for it
But 2k master mode is easy enough that going for no RNG runs is the only thing that makes it more interesting for me
I actually try to sweep ebe without rng
ig there's two ways of looking at it
Since my units tend to be noticably stronger
Compared to an average roster
Due to very little favs and rolling too much beat sticks 
Tho I do avoid offregion since it kinda feels like cheating when it does work
The no RNG rule butchers Karen, so I'm a bit lacking in special dark
No soften up, 95 accuracy snarl, mandatory sync
Karen needs too much setup and if nuke doesnt cleankill, you get stomped
It means that Lillie is mandatory
houndoom is strong as shit what
But people tend to favor her
It's aoe sync without soften up
Dps needs statuses 
And no SScyrus
damn, strict
Calem has flabbergast, but isn't flabbergast 9
you don't need to max out karen's dark pulse multipliers
Plus if the stage buffs spa, Karen sync gets weakened
Karen is another example of "I should really grid her" because i keep forgetting
hell, i use bp karen for sinnoh dark weak sometimes
Personally I'm waiting for striker Alolan persian
every time it's dark weak I'm like Royal/Calem go brrrr
Same I've been just using cerena and MR nuke
At least i can sync with c calm and i don't need to slot lillie
karen is very strong, her setup is tedious if you have the patience of an infant
though
She's strong, but I think lot of dark weak stages tend to buff spa
-4 instead of -6 or whatever isn't the end of the world
still more than enough
but your rules change things up
if you want to presync and whatnot
If i remove -2 sync i should be able to clear the stage Presync
But probably Alolan Persian eggmon, will be more reliable at -2
No, all the parameters help only the opponent
Only the sync quickly rule shaves your sync too
how is it possible to presync? do you just use a bunch of units that can accelerate sync countdown
Round rules apply for both, master mode parameters only help the opponent
Normally the plan is 6ex support sync and 2 DPS attacks
or do you just kill them without even syncing yourself
That's SS Giovanni
so if all goes well, you just don't even use a second sync yourself?
that seems very limiting
I sync with 6ex support
Generally it's 6ex support sync, 2 DPS attacks (at most) on mid and one for sides (or 4 and 2 if double damage dealers)
so you're basically barred from using weaker units with low dps (but high syncs) or weaker units without zone supplements
Depends, i can use those (and i do) with proper teammates
can u give me an example
Roark (gridless) with SS diantha and holiday jasmine
With that team i can go -3 sync
tbf roark needs close to that even without fancy rules 
only time i used him, and he died after like one head smash lmao
Or maybe Ramos + Lillie + SS lyra (Ramos nuke)
ss lyra can clear with a bag of potato chips yeah
What's the command for spoiler?
idk the command
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i just click the button for photos
but yea, again this is using a weaker unit but only with zone supplements
^
but roark struggles even without the rules so ig it's fair
I can replace roark with SS Brock
would you still be forced to supplement with zone to adhere to your rules
SS Brock doesn't needs holiday jasmine, because it can attack more than once
Without SS diantha i still cleared Rock weak with Olivia + 6ex Hilbert + kukui
none of those units are the 'weaker units' that i'm referring to
at least by my standards
What are the ones you are referring to?
things on the level of valerie, roark, etc.
I just talked about Roark
and your team with him was forced to run zone
as i said
to adhere to your rules
do u get what im saying
I mean i use nate too, and i have no flying zone (but Lugia carries a bit)
nate is borderline, unconventional if anything
but yea all im saying is your ruleset has the potential to create an artificial demand for zones
but not necessarily a bad thing if it's what helps u enjoy the game
I mean what else I need?

do you have favourites
if you don't have them, the discussion was pointless to begin with lmao
I pulled for some units that i loved the costume in the past, but i end up not using them much
which ones
Maybun, holiday skyla, holiday Erika, rosanta
Maybun still useful in gauntlet
I mean all of them are useful in gauntlet
i don't have any of those, so can't say much, but i'm guessing you're unable to incorporate them into csmm
or you just don't want to
I guess the problem is 1/5
Except, maybun her style just doesn't fit my csmm playstyle
Yes for gauntlet she's valuable
But for presync master mode is terrible
Kinda like pre expansion karen
She needs to mega to do any damage at all, but her sync is terrible
looking at her kit, it seems like she *could * just be there as a gapfill support + potions
wait do u allow potions
Yes, potions aren't rng
you can probably tack her into the third slot with a team of 2 other broken units
if you really want to
her kit is pretty boring
If i don't mega her, she's bad skyla
still usable
For gauntlet is fine
but yeah she would be multitudes worse
For master mode generally skyla is a better option
Plus she doesn't even work with fighting zone
I mean she works with that post second sync
i'm personally going in with the mindset that u could use her as a below average buffing support
The problem is that she's a bad tank and not classified as support (so no 6ex support)
She just gives skyla buffs, but Skyla has 6ex and buffs even attack with fanfare
But i can't really think of an unit that needs the maybun buffs (up to +4 speed and def)
for your ruleset, i guess anything with ramming speed or gauge issues
since inertia is mostly pointless cause u don't do second sync
i think at this point yall can take it to a strategy channel or #poma-lounge
I can sync with damage dealer as long as crit chance is 100%
conversation derailed quite a bit
However i don't need zones to clear 2k master mode, i do it even with types that i don't have a zone
yes but with decently strong units i presume
For rock i used Olivia back then
^
anyways, gem expenditure wise, as long as you're aware you've created an artificial demand to pull zones over favourites to accommodate for your playstyle, and are okay with that, i don't see a problem
I just feel that zones makes weaker units more usable
I mean i can still clear mm with Pryce and bp Candice even if ice zone isn't a thing
yea that's a better example
fair enough
you won't have to pull ice zone when it arrives then 
Depends how funny is the unit
wulfric csmm 2k
I think i used wulfric in 2k csmm
I don't remember what team i used
Ah yes i did a f2p 2k clear with wulfric
But was without the -2 sync
I have the video too, but i don't know if i can post it here under spoiler
It was Candice hop and wulfric
However it was just wulfric focusing on the right side while abomasnow one shot the left side 1st sync and the mid second sync
i think im going to stop updating this post, im not sure that its providing useful data anymore. thoughts?
also #1010223517565976737 has been updated with candy for february and the final gem count for this past january
Has it changed a lot or something?
no but most of the information is captured elsewhere between #1010223517565976737 and #1006618823123800106 by sages
the only thing novel it shows is the number of banners and a rough idea of how many gems they give out compared to the number of limited units
originally i put it together to demonstrate that although the gem income increased, it mostly stayed on track with the number of new limiteds we got each month
I see •.•
I need to stay strong from pulling for Elesa and Anabel(?). I don't need either of them and they aren't really on my list for mons I need.
Palesa is the prettiest of the month but yeah skipping
I have to for the daily, minimum.
I want to save up for a nice flying type striker. I want something fancy.
Click left to get to daily
Swipe from the small thumbnail in the pokecenter
Don't go to Sync Pair Scouts and see big shiny banners
That's how I get to my daily
Her scout is out need to stay strong
Hope the 100 free pulls come fast, i dont have enough
for monthly conversion to

What do you use
for if you don't EX nonfavs?
Joke's on you, you will get 10
per pull!
5* 20/20 lodge pairs and other fancy base 3* 4* units
5* 20/20 lodgeblue is tanky
I also did the same to starmisty and bpclemont
Also bruno because i like machamp
Already 5* 20/20 21 pairs that don't have 
Armlo if you pull pal elesa you need to EX a bad unit
Im fine with that 
Well i will be happier if its 
Because i don't see myself to complete bringing 45 units to 5* anytime soon 
When's the 100 free pulls again?
Will be 46 when i get lodgemorty
16 more resets
Oooo
If u pull anabel ur cringe
I like Snorlax though a lot.
Hope they rerun snorlax eggmon event for you
Ooo I didn't even know about that nvm don't even feel the need to pull her anymore.
I'll just hope for that in the future
The real issue for me is probably Elesa because I'm after flying. But I also don't really know what she does.
listen I exed looker it too late
I want to skip her and wait for another.
but I am still going to wait out her banner
I
Gloria, i heard that she is bad...but zacian is a fave 
If you pull pal elesa you have to EX Calem and 3/5 him
I mean, EXing doesn't make her worse!
Yeah, it just gives her AOE damage on her sync! Does it add anything else? Absolutely not but the AOE nuke animation looks cool
I even 150 Gloria, now she have 485 atk stats 
If only those attacks had multipliers huh
Elesa is too random tbh... Fly is not really ideal as dps...
My funds are finally again safe, yesterday they were damaged
Just reset for Fissure 
Idk, she just don't stand out for me as a flying dps imo
I exed calem as well
If you want reasons why not to pull for her
you have to try harder
I can't wait to see what flying mons there will be in the future. I think I'll easily avoid her this go around. I wouldn't mind some reasons not to pull her tho just to solidfy it.
She is kinda like a gambling unit using metronome and super effective stuffs but goodluck pulling a correct super effective move from metronome
^
I will get her from a select it only a matter of will power until emma comes
Ah yeah alright that's not really my thing
If she is a support it's fun to play with metronome but she's a striker
Interesting, thank you.
Gotta stay strong and keep away from shiny new pairs! Tired of randomly gambling then never using the mon.
Just save for burghepi rerun if you want support metronome, well spring is not too far anyway
If you want to on-type stuffs, she only is really reliable as a sync nuker at best... Fly doesn't deal good dmg seeing that is a 2-turn move
I have Togepi 

Even more reason to skip palesa then
Thank you guys for the support in not pulling. Avoiding this one hard.
Yeah sounds like she isn't what you want
Oh guys, lodge guest can already give coin on level 30 or i need them to be level above 30?
30 is enough
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