it's not enough for all that
#Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)
vestal leaf
It's just that one gives you instant satisfaction
lament hornet
and stick to this decision
vestal leaf
In exchange of real life currency
hardy creek
The thing is though, there's not gonna be a sign one day that "oh, they're probably coming soon, guess I should finally start saving." Chances are, you're gonna keep saying "well, they're not gonna release soon" until suddenly they're in the next datamine and you're caught completely off-guard
drowsy saddle
You have to understand that you can't have everything. New units are always tempting - it's a gacha, that's how they get you.
vestal leaf
and stick to this decision
That's called being oculate
lament hornet
well i am easily tempted
vestal leaf
With your decisions
lament hornet
not much i can do about that
weary spire
not much i can do about that
This is the part that is extremely wrong my friend
vestal leaf
^
feral vale
You can do stuff.
lament hornet
if it was i would not have done what i did today
feral vale
I did.
vestal leaf
People can change
weary spire
Easily tempted no doubt, many people here were easily tempted, many people here even now struggle with being easily tempted
lament hornet
i can't change, that's my whole problem
vestal leaf
It's just not easy
feral vale
i can't change, that's my whole problem
You’re lying to yourself.
weary spire
In the short-term it's hard to combat especially
lament hornet
i spent last 3 years finding that out
weary spire
Nah, you can, it's just hard mate
vestal leaf
That's not how people work
feral vale
Anyone can change. I know that.
lament hornet
with therapy, with meds, with psychiatrist
with diet, with hobbies, with new games
wicked trellis
Look there's no easy way to overcome this. Either you remain in your instant gratification thing but you know you're gonna spend real money you probably worked hard for (and i really hope these are all extra money you can afford and you are not giving up basic necessities for a 3D model), OR you start saving up knowing it'll suck for the first part, because it's a thing you have never done before and your brain doesnt take well new things. But i can also assure you that saving can become an addiction in its own way, and the more you save, the more you want to save
fallen path
i can't change, that's my whole problem
Tbh I’m just gonna butt and say everyone is trying to assist you, but first you need belief with yourself
lament hornet
i'm still experiencing the same problems i had
not everyone is the same, and my difference is unability to change
fallen path
If you can’t change this mindset I’m not sure what all these people can do.
weary spire
I don't wanna stray too far off PMEX as the game but a fair bit have struggled with saving & ease of temptation for years long before they finally ended up getting anywhere, ultimately they made progress and there are people on various levels of struggle, better currently or worse currently than you etc
lament hornet
if only it was just "a mindset"
feral vale
We are here to help, after all…
fallen path
You absolutely can change, but if you yourself can’t tell yourself that you become what you think you are
weary spire
It may be easy to think that it was probably just "easy" for them, but that's because it's actually easier to believe that yourself
Than believe it was difficult, but they pulled through over time
lament hornet
if it was possible i would already have a different mindset, like i said
feral vale
if it was possible i would already have a different mindset, like i said
It’s never too late to change.
weary spire
vestal leaf
It is possible
feral vale
Never.
lament hornet
spent past 3 years doing stuff purely so that i found change
vestal leaf
It's always possible
fallen path
There’s so many people trying to give you suggestions, they are really trying to help you
lament hornet
and i didn't
weary spire
It is possible, it's just hard, just as it was for those of which who finally got past it after years
vestal leaf
It takes years and years sometimes
weary spire
It was not easy for them unfortunately
hardy creek
Anyone can change, but in order to do so, you have to stop the pessimistic, helpless self-talk of "I can't do it, it's impossible for me." as long as you keep saying that, yeah you won't be able to change. But if you genuinely decide to give it a shot, and don't let the first failure or two or ten get you down, then you'll be surprised to see what you can do one day
feral vale
Not everyone gets to the same place at the same time.
lament hornet
at which point "never too late" mentality just becomes sunken cost fallacy
vestal leaf
Sitting in a corner saying "I can't do this AT ALL" won't give you anything in life
lunar topaz
I was not a saver prior to this channel I did have the mindset I wanted all my favs but this channel really helped me and I was able to change my spending habits
weary spire
Exactly Gon! And again, whether you want to consider it or not, you've actually made progress that puts you further ahead of both some players currently and especially some players at a previous point in time who struggled similarly to you
lament hornet
Sitting in a corner saying "I can't do this AT ALL" won't give you anything in l...
you missed t he part where i listed the stuff i did
weary spire
Not as far behind as you may think
vestal leaf
Saying "it's impossible for me" is almost an insult to all the people that managed to change even through years and years of struggle
weary spire
Baby steps
feral vale
ALSO I was able to make up for what I missed. I’ve also been working on getting some favs that will come back in the future.
lament hornet
Anyone can change, but in order to do so, you have to stop the pessimistic, help...
i was optimistic, it didn't happen anyway
vestal leaf
you missed t he part where i listed the stuff i did
And you're not alone
lament hornet
why keep doing something that didn't work
weary spire
Because it's a process, and it doesn't just flick like a switch
vestal leaf
Many people took years and years to change the smallest things
weary spire
You have to push past the process even as it feels like you may make little to no progess from time to time
Even with a step back
You stick to it because at the end of the day, you'll get there, even if you don't quite believe it where you are at right now
vestal leaf
Biologically speaking, most of the cells in your body between now and 7 years ago are different
They were forced to change
People can change completely without realising, or take whole slices of their lives to do so
lament hornet
i've noticed that "a process", even continued successfully across time, doesn't make me feel any better. case in point - i'm on diet since... august i think? i lost probably about 20kg. sure, i lost weight, but it doesn't feel any better, i don't feel any better, i don't feel like anything in my mind has changed
violet nebula
Grats, no easy feat
vestal leaf
It takes time for physical and mental changes to settle down
violet nebula
You will feel better soon
vestal leaf
You say that
violet nebula
Many struggle to manage that
vestal leaf
But for others
lament hornet
no, i mean that
vestal leaf
It's absolutely not
lament hornet
it was easy for me
vestal leaf
Yeah
lament hornet
i can tell you that much
hardy creek
Everyone here is willing to help if you're honestly ready to start saving, but we can't help you if you just wanna double down on self-pity instead of taking the steps to start saving. We'll support you all we can, but it ultimately comes down to you to do the hard work of saving and to keep pushing even after the first failures (because even the best saver caves occassionally).
violet nebula
But good you have that mental robustness for it
wicked trellis
i've noticed that "a process", even continued successfully across time, doesn't ...
It's hard to feel change for yourself because you are yourself every second of your life, and every subtle change you make you may not notice them, but over time they make you a new person
weary spire
I gotta head out, so again just to keep everything on PMEX and not stray much past that, I'll just say what you feel about your progress currently does not mean you are not making progress with saving gems. People will struggle to actualise the progress you make, people will struggle to feel a change in view through the progress they actualise, and so on. It simply takes time and different ways of working through them.
Wish you the best mate 
lament hornet
i see the change. i don't feel better about it. i don't go back to not being on a diet, i still stick to it, but it's primarily because it was such an insignificant change to me
wicked trellis
Few people do a 180° quickly in their lives and if they do, it's mostly because of ✨trauma✨
willow pollen
The stars and sparkle are accurate
lament hornet
diet didn't feel like a process
it felt exactly like flicking the switch
again, for me
feral vale
So few have the capability to lose weight like that
Oh for sure, and I apologize if this sounds like I’m putting down the ability of working to lose weight in the first place.
lament hornet
my doctor recommended it, i'm doing it, but aside from dropping bread, pasta and rice (i'm on keto) nothing changed in my life
feral vale
Literally just realized it…
lament hornet
i didn't care about my weight before the diet, i don't care about my weight now
maybe that's the difference
feral vale
Let me talk about something real fast
I just got hired to do a full time job in my department.
lament hornet
congratulations
feral vale
Before that, I was really content with my part time and I was slightly scared about the changes.
But I worked myself to get to applying and I was nervous as shit about the interview.
I was nervous even at the interview, but once I did it and finished, a huge weight was lifted off my shoulders.
And a few days later was when I was told I got the job. Really paid off.
violet nebula
Excellent
lament hornet
i know that feeling, had that at uni before defending bachelor and master's, had that at every oral exam, had that at every job interview since
and even before these
feral vale
So it may be hard at first. But it’s the matter of getting yourself to work towards it and as you get further in, it gets easier and eventually pays off.
lament hornet
sure
but in this case you do things and they eventually pay off
with saving
you DON'T do things
fallen path
Do you goal set bones
lament hornet
so you make the decision to do nothing
feral vale
You do something else by doing nothing.
wicked trellis
Ah the good ol' kierkegaard philosophy right here
fallen path
Seems like you need a fake it till you make it kinda thing
rancid vale
it doesn't feel rewarding
delayed gratification is a thing
fallen path
How often do you think bout this game, bones
lament hornet
and it feels worse than instant one to me
feral vale
One thing I like to say is good things come with time.
drowsy saddle
Not saving is even less rewarding.
rancid vale
and it feels worse than instant one to me
then thats something you need to work out yourself
wicked trellis
it's not doing the thing i want to do
Yeah but in order to pull, you need gems, which you don't have, so you have to resort to whale, which makes you feel bad, am i correct?
lament hornet
How often do you think bout this game, bones
every morning i'm excited to open the app and do the daily stuff
lament hornet
Yeah but in order to pull, you need gems, which you don't have, so you have to r...
yes
tardy fiber
Weee, i think i can reach back 100k gems on Monday reset 
feral vale
HAPPY FOR YOU!!!
lament hornet
Not saving is even less rewarding.
disagree, because then you pull
fallen path
Ok then after that you close the game and do watcha gotta do in life
drowsy saddle
disagree, because then you pull
And you're likely to get nothing if you pull without a pity.
lament hornet
One thing I like to say is **good things come with time.**
so far it wasn't true with me. i had good things first and then lost them after some time and it was terrible ever since
vestal leaf
What's the satisfaction of pulling 3-4*s 90% of the days
violet nebula
This gacha is good in the sense you don't need to be in long
lament hornet
Ok then after that you close the game and do watcha gotta do in life
nothing, i kill time
feral vale
I do other things like drawing, playing video games, etc, to distract me.
violet nebula
Helps with the urge of pulling
lament hornet
i do the routine things
rancid vale
maybe you should see a therapist about this
lament hornet
because anything that requires more than 5 minutes of effort is tedious due to that effort
i am
rancid vale
uh
fallen path
I think if you have some sort of other hobby it might help
lament hornet
and as you can see it's the same as it was
lament hornet
I think if you have some sort of other hobby it might help
i have, but it requires prep, which is tedious
wicked trellis
yes
Which means, pulling is actually making you feel bad. The instant gratification for pulling is, indeed, instant. It's not gonna last. And you think the solution for feeling better is to pull again. But actually the solution is taking a break for pulling.
tardy fiber
I play yugioh master duel and genshin when there's no content on Masters...but ironically i also save in those 2 games as well 
lament hornet
Which means, pulling is actually making you feel bad. The instant gratification ...
then you won't feel any gratification at all
vestal leaf
Ok I wanna ask something
If this game went in EoS next anni
What would you feel
lament hornet
Ok I wanna ask something
If this game went in EoS next anni
What would you fee...
nothing
fallen path
It seems the easiest way to not pull is to not think about the game
feral vale
I play yugioh master duel and genshin when there's no content on Masters...but i...
Good for you, man!!
vestal leaf
lofty relic
bones btw
lament hornet
like genuinely
lofty relic
i don't know if this was suggested to you before
but i'd heavily consider trying joining this server https://discord.gg/patchgaming
lament hornet
i've experienced maintenance mode of a game i was committed to heavily before
i'm already on it
feral vale
but i'd heavily consider trying joining this server https://discord.gg/patchgami...
What’s this? •.•
lofty relic
a more specialized help area for gaming struggles & addictions with very friendly people
lament hornet
an advertisement
vestal leaf
So you have no attachment to the game
But feel like you have to scout constantly or shop for it
Maybe scouting every day is for you, just know you're gonna most likely get burned out
wicked trellis
then you won't feel any gratification at all
You can't live a life filled with continuous gratification, it's phisically impossible, because at the end of the day you become saturated by it and you always want more amd more
lament hornet
yes
wicked trellis
Empty time, flat times, are okay
lament hornet
that's exactly how my life looks like
wicked trellis
There's nothing wrong in that
lament hornet
long periods of nothing are absolutely draining
rancid vale
if you are able to, id strongly suggest doing workouts
feral vale
long periods of nothing are absolutely draining
Then fill it with something else.
rancid vale
its good for you and it helps keep your mind off things
lament hornet
if you are able to, id strongly suggest doing workouts
last time i did i got even more depressed
feral vale
It’s not like Masters is the only thing in your life.
rancid vale
…
vestal leaf
Spend time with people
wicked trellis
I'm discovering again the joy of reading, even if it's cringy teen fantasy books
vestal leaf
Or find new games
lament hornet
i realize the way i'll answer this will sound like "you just keep deflecting help" but guys
i've done those things
vestal leaf
Or communities
lofty relic
Look y'all this is getting nowhere please let's not try to shift too far
vestal leaf
Then just uninstall or accept the situation, idk
wicked trellis
Yeah
tardy fiber
I invest in 3* 4* base units to pass time when there's no fave and avoid temptations, i like to see their stats soared 
wicked trellis
If you really, REALLY feel so miserable by this situation, uninstalling migh be it
vestal leaf
You slumped yourself pretty hard and I doubt anyone from a discord can influence you enough to change
drowsy saddle
If pulling is the only thing that matters to you, you can try creating an alt account. Reroll it as many times as you want with no need to pull on the main one.
lament hornet
walking - i live in a small city, there's nowhere new to experience in here lmao
games - i want to have my backlog cleared, but it still doesn't help me want to pick up one of the games and play it
time with people - last time i kept spending time with someone resulted in me eventually being completely blocked off by that person because i was too much
fallen path
Tbh I feel that we are out of the scope of what we can do. Try dreamy’s suggestion
lament hornet
If pulling is the only thing that matters to you, you can try creating an alt ac...
i only have 1 device capable of running poma
if i could, i would
lofty relic
We're not fit professionals for handling these cases, you have to seek out help with people that are trained for these situations and accept their suggestions, otherwise there can be no progress
lofty relic
we can stay all day here giving perspectives and opinions back and forth bouncing but this isn't the channel's purpose
wicked trellis
Last advice: Go to therapy
lament hornet
with therapy, with meds, with psychiatrist
@wicked trellis
lapis pine
It sounds like you haven’t decided that saving is a good idea yet
lament hornet
i decided that i spend too much money
lament hornet
it's good idea by sheer force
feral vale
Maybe we should dissipate this… 
lament hornet
i really don't mean to like disregard all of your advice, i hope you know that
i just tried the things i was adviced
in the end i just was unable to change
i guess there's compensation price in that ||when pulling today i didn't spend everything, so i still have some gems||
feral vale
I think more time to think is what you need for now.
lament hornet
that's kind of a progress compared to earlier
like a half is left
so that's nice
wicked trellis
You know i think sometimes people like you just didnt have the right wake up call. I hope you get that soon, possibly without any heavy real life influences like... You realize one day you dont have enough money to buy groceries because you spent it all for a 3D model of a game character
lament hornet
i probably won't because this is the only place where i'm having a hard time controlling myself
there's irl stuff i want to buy like a new desk, a new chair, a third screen
vestal leaf
Gacha games are kinda putting many young people into very awkward places mentally
lament hornet
but i'm postponing all that until i get a job
lapis pine
I’ll just add my tactic that I use as someone who gets massive urges to pull because it’s exciting. When I get the urge to pull, I will open up a chance based game, like a coin flipper or the summon simulator or a random number generator. I will then set myself a goal, like “if I can get 5 heads in a row I’ll do that yolo multi”. The idea behind this is that if I believe I’ll get the unit in the first multi, then I should also believe I will get a small chance like getting 5 heads in a row. This accomplishes two things, the first is that it demonstrates how small the chances are to get what you want first try, the second is that it forces me to close the app and take a step back which is usually all I need for the feeling to subside. Now this isn’t a perfect method because occasionally you will actually get the 5 heads in a row and will yolo, however for me it forces me to resist doing the yolo way more often than I would otherwise.
Idk if this will be helpful to other people but for me it helps me save when I get urges to pull
tardy fiber
My greatest motivation to save is I'm scared to miss my faves, as i joined this game much later than other veterans, i did chase some older released units before this and it is such a hassle....since then, I don't want to miss any faves anymore so i save by skipping all other non faves although they are meta or deal a million damage. Fortunately, now I have already achieved that. No need to chase any units, and will have ample gems for February...thank you god 
feral vale
Gacha games are kinda putting many young people into very awkward places mentall...
Sometimes I wonder why they exist
vestal leaf
~~Sometimes I wonder why they exist~~
Sometimes I wonder why can't they implement a check so that they're only for 18+
lofty relic
If it helps with saving, a more direct approach you can try is use some users with their consent as guides for your saving
i know it worked with me previously when i looked up to someone
It sounds weird, but for some people it works
basically tell yourself you want to flex to me your 10k gems and i'll hold you to that, when you get there you ping me with a screenshot of your 10k gems and i'll genuinely congratulate you and see that others aknowledge it as well. Then we'll continue with a new landmark, and maybe even bets on your next favorite to happen
this worked for me because i was too anxious to disappoint the person i promised to save to
lament hornet
wouldn't help in my case lmfao
wicked trellis
there's irl stuff i want to buy like a new desk, a new chair, a third screen
Okay you can try and use that as a motivator
If you don't whale, you can save more quickly for new furnitures
lament hornet
no, that's not how it works lmfao
i won't buy them so long as i don't have a job, period
wicked trellis
Sometimes I wonder why can't they implement a check so that they're only for 18+
Cuz it's too easy to lie on the internet
lament hornet
it doesn't matter how much i'll "save"
lament hornet
If it helps with saving, a more direct approach you can try is use some users wi...
i mean it felt bad to say i pulled today
lament hornet
but not bad enough where i felt like i never want to experience the pulling again
lofty relic
but imagine how good it'd feel coming here with a good screenshot of saved gems
lament hornet
sure, but why should i wait a month to be happy with a screenshot
lofty relic
nothing comes fast i'm afraid
and the other outcome is the dissapointment of yourself and others
frankly when you said you pulled i was mildly dissapointed
lament hornet
11 pull sure comes quite fastt 
tardy fiber
Also don't be alarmed by people having a bunch of gems saved up, that's simply mean that they don't have much of their faves released. DeNa released my faves constantly so i'm over the moon when i finally reached 100k gems milestone knowing it wont last long for the future as legendaries, mythicals, UBs always come and goes 
lament hornet
but yeah, you're right
lament hornet
frankly when you said you pulled i was mildly dissapointed
i considered just not mentioning it for that specific reason
lofty relic
yep but now i'm in a state where if someday you come to this channel to showcase a high gem count starting saving
i'll have quite the smile on my face
lament hornet
at least if i don't start i won't end up disappointing anyone anymore
whereas if i start and i fail, i will
wicked trellis
Wrong
feral vale
nothing comes fast i'm afraid
Good things come with time.
lofty relic
one is a certainty, the other is a gamble
yes you can choose to just not try
but why not at least try first
at least you have 2 outcomes there
lofty relic
you gamble already with playing the game
vestal leaf
^
lament hornet
yeah, and that gamble results with me eventually getting the stuff i want
vestal leaf
The game literally is no different than slot machines
lofty relic
so how is that different for the other context?
lament hornet
idk
lofty relic
you litteraly just quoted the possibility of the positive outcome
on the gamble of saving and making people and yourself happy
lament hornet
maybe i'm just unable to chase the milestones
vestal leaf
yeah, and that gamble results with me eventually getting the stuff i want
I remember someone saying the same thing here a year or two ago
They'd never save because they'd always, always get the units they went for
They dropped the game after getting shafted 3 months in a row iirc
feral vale
Karma
lament hornet
well i always have a back up plan, it's terrible and it feels terrible, but at the very least it's a backup plan and not the main thing i do that makes me feel bad
of course this state of things is not good
vestal leaf
The backup plan being spending?
wicked trellis
at least if i don't start i won't end up disappointing anyone anymore
Showing that you're putting an effort is never gonna make disappoint anybody, at least not here
lament hornet
but from this perspective my mind wouldn't be happy
wicked trellis
Even if you fail
vestal leaf
What happens when you get 3 units you want in one month and have barely gems and the month gives 20000ish gems
lament hornet
i put an effort
lofty relic
if things are not good, then it's time to change things
i can bring up a hundred metaphors on why you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs, but you probably know them already
lament hornet
What happens when you get 3 units you want in one month and have barely gems and...
take a guess why i want to save specifically now and why i'm saying "i spent too much"
vestal leaf
Yeah
lament hornet
i got all i wanted from that time period, but at what cost
vestal leaf
You either suffer or shop a quantity you can't afford I guess
lost bobcat
i got all i wanted from that time period, but at what cost
Question is you learned the leesson or not?
lament hornet
i'm here, that should mean something
i wouldn't be here if i was ok with just going for the credit card
lofty relic
i hope you realize that we can only offer words of advice
lament hornet
i know
lofty relic
and ears of course (well eyes duh)
lament hornet
of course i'd love to have more than just advice but it's the best i can get so
i gotta take what i can
sorry for the bother for that long
wicked trellis
We are not you, the only way we could give more than an advice would be actually controlling your phone to prevent you from pulling
lost bobcat
of course i'd love to have more than just advice but it's the best i can get so
If advices aren't enough all I can do is wish you luck
lofty relic
it is no bother, we're here to help if possible with savings related to the game and avoid regrets
lament hornet
something i realized with me in the past, at least according to other things i experienced
tardy fiber
Also one of the reasons i save is, a pity costs 36.6k gems...and if i start with 0 free gems, 36.6k paid gems costs a whole lot of my money 
lament hornet
i need one thing/method/whatever that clicks
feral vale
Also one of the reasons i save is, a pity costs 36.6k gems...and if i start with...
Agreed!!
tardy fiber
Wait probably 36.4k with paid gems
feral vale
Still a lot.
wicked trellis
i need one thing/method/whatever that clicks
Absolutely
tardy fiber
Yep it will make me feels bad if i did that, alao i will start to question my life choice
lament hornet
so 36,3 free and 100 paid lmao
lament hornet
Absolutely
like deadass i don't understand why i can't pick something up even if i want to one day
but the other? give me everything lmao
nowadays it's more of the former than the latter
tardy fiber
it's 12 multis, 1 single and 1 paid single
1 single costs 300, 1 paid cost 100 paid gems so 36.4k gems for 400/400 pity points
lament hornet
10 years ago i would play a lot of games, now i just... can't. it's the routine set of stuff and nothing more really
lament hornet
yeah
you're right
sorry
idk whether it's ||because i did end up pulling|| or i talked it out, but i feel better now
maybe i just looked at the deed done as a tiny amount of progress, that i'll inevitably thwart soon knowing me
wicked trellis
10 years ago i would play a lot of games, now i just... can't. it's the routine ...
I really understand you, i do. My life feels really mundane and that's why im really trying to change my routine and picking up again good habits- like reading, as i said
tardy fiber
But i like poma, it is such a casual game that doesn't require grind, very much occupation friendly as only need to online for few minutes and done...well except csmm day, gauntlet day, gear farming, villa
lament hornet
I really understand you, i do. My life feels really mundane and that's why im re...
yeah, i just can't pick up those myself. the amount you time spent per the amount of happiness you get from these is really lackluster way too often
wicked trellis
yeah, i just can't pick up those myself. the amount you time spent per the amoun...
You really need to chamge this way fo thinking because it's not ideal, both in PoMa and irl
Anyway it's past 1am and i gotta sleep, please think about all the conversation we had and try and elaborate on that
lament hornet
i've noticed that it's not ideal yes
there's way too many aspects of it as to why i think this way, but 90% of it is not suited for this server, let alone this channel lmao
rancid vale
its ok. i think the best plan is to just keep talking it out. and just try things. you’ll find something you’re passionate about
lament hornet
i have that kind of stuff
but it's not enough for me to just commit to it because it has no end game
oak crest
But i like poma, it is such a casual game that doesn't require grind, very much ...
This is pretty much why I liked poma alot, u can afford to skip banners and still can clear majority(if not all) of the contents they push out
tardy fiber
This is pretty much why I liked poma alot, u can afford to skip banners and stil...
The only one that probably hard to clear is EBE but losing 300-600 gems is better than losing 36.6k gems
spare swift
I dont think so. The game has mentioned master fairs will only appear in master fair scouts.
weary spire
I’ll just add my tactic that I use as someone who gets massive urges to pull bec...
This is an interesting one 
There's obv the rare circumstance in which you do hit 5 heads in a row, and that's obviously not going to translate to the game, but still. It's interesting And if it works for you, sure
tawny dagger
I dont think so. The game has mentioned master fairs will only appear in master ...
They are talking about fall Allister
oak crest
The only one that probably hard to clear is EBE but losing 300-600 gems is bette...
so far I was able to clear all the EBEs released thankfully(even when I decided to skip the pairs that are made for such stages) 
tardy fiber
I almost gave up on anniraihan EBE part 2, but finally enemy damage didn't crit at Blaine 
I wonder if Alola VA EBE will be easy
They had to give boost to MC solgaleo
So Main character tag will also get boosted other than Alola tag
Or they can boost steel instead, so alola and steel... there's molayne and kimono grimsley
hard wave
or delete the unit and give us faba and solgaleo or smth
tardy fiber
hard wave
Idk who’d get it tho, faba is kinda a villain and a psychic user so he’s the only one I can think of
And he’s not in the game unlike gladion or alola MCs
tardy fiber
I still hopium that DeNa will add new legendary adventures for Alola 
...||do Ilima Tapu Bulu or something||
tardy fiber
I like MC solgaleo because can do balance MC team
tardy fiber
|| also why illima and tapu bulu ||
Ilima with any tapus actually, because Legendary Adventures release base character and not sygna suits or others...so only Ilima, Ryuki, Faba, and the other Aether girl admin haven't released
hard wave
I feel like they’ll just release all the tapus for alola VA tho cant wait for them all to go to lillie
tardy fiber
Probably 4 of them goes to sselio, ssselene, sslillie, ssgladion
Lusamine already got sslusamine so she probably won't get alt
hard wave
And hau gets dawn wings maybe
tardy fiber
Seems like VA only release base character like Hugh, Colress, Lucas, Shauna and Sygna suits for those that not yet have them
But ssrcynthia does happen, and its still a sygna suit
tardy fiber
Yep if they didn't change the VA home screen much, SsLysandre probably happening
If too much changes, they will switch wallpaper on part 2 like johtrio MF introduction
oak crest
i wonder what kind of powerup syncamore will get for pt2 tho
tardy fiber
I not sure but i would love sentry entry 2, i need him to have more survivability to tank early before he syncs...i try to not hoping for OP grid, i just gonna think about mediocre ones just like Ghetsis power boost
hard wave
Imo ghetsis was pretty decent pre expansion, same w sycamore and hop so its not too bad ig
oak crest
His EX was pretty handy for the current EBE tho
hard wave
Cyrus was also good since I used him w/o until the rerun, I replaced giovanni, didnt use silver or zinnia
Ig it helped that there arent many good ice options and he has nice debuffing
oak crest
i never used Zinnia at all
the rest I have used them rather often before
altho I have dropped Solgaleo as well unless he is needed for LG for bosses with annoying passives
hard wave
I still use cyrus for dragon over zinnia and I have other fire options but silver isnt bad
Solgaleo I hope they dont mess up tho
tardy fiber
I dislike zinnia gameplay, she needs too much stuff
oak crest
yeah
tardy fiber
Weather+zone
hard wave
U mean her powerup which lowers her stats as well? 
oak crest
tardy fiber
Better power up than Giovanni, giovanni doesnt have any new passive...zinnia have 2 new, fresh start and mgr
hard wave
Shouldve just gotten impervious or downside up like rayven
hard wave
Better power up than Giovanni, giovanni doesnt have any new passive...zinnia hav...
I havent used him in a long time and still waiting for a rerun
tardy fiber
Shouldve just gotten impervious or downside up like rayven
They need to make annisteven special, later no one wants to pull him
hard wave
Atleast impervious
tardy fiber
They can just get zinnia and doesn't even consider steven if she get OP passive
Thats why i wont hope much that sycamore will have OP stuff
They wont give much OP stuff on free units
hard wave
Didnt cyrus and silver get OP stuff?
oak crest
tbh for hop if they give 1 more potion mpr I'm satisfied 
hard wave
Atleast sycamore and hop r good already so its not like they can be ruined
oak crest
but prob not happening cos it might be too much
tardy fiber
Cyrus only boost his dragon damage with spacial rend ramming speed, first aid, not sure if you would consider that as OP as downside up
hard wave
Oh
oak crest
since it helps to take out the sides and you can focus on the mid
tardy fiber
Yep just like Ghetsis, although he gain mid stuff but his Tech EX already valuable by itself
Sycamore is the same with support EC
Ex
So i predict mid stuff for sycamore power boost
oak crest
the 1 who got the best powerup is silver
hard wave
Sycamore and Hop rlly just need their EXs tbh
oak crest
ex + that sync tile that boosts his sync dmg when weather is sunny is pretty much death to the sides
tardy fiber
Yep silver is good, but i understand...his stats is kinda low even below 300, so glad that DeNa give him that solar boost
oak crest
wonder what they will give to Solgaleo tho, I can't really find much use on him on CSMM, will rather off-type
in the past when sinnoh was just released I tried him on steel weak Bertha and I got destroyed
tardy fiber
wonder what they will give to Solgaleo tho, I can't really find much use on him ...
Sunsteel strike damage +60
Haymaker
hard wave
I struggled w steel for a while || but luckily have ss gio and raihan (who could use more copies tho, 1/5) ||
tardy fiber
I use gloria for my steel stuffs
But if solgaleo got EX, i might use solgaleo instead
hard wave
Dont have her unfortunately, tho I thought she wasnt great either?
tardy fiber
Dont have her unfortunately, tho I thought she wasnt great either?
She does have something that solgaleo don't have...
Can kill sides
hard wave
Tru
oak crest
i ended up resetting my CSMM that time cos I already used SCDiantha to offtype another E4 battle
she was my only free pass to any 2k CSMM battle back then for Sinnoh
hard wave
Does her move count as a special move tho?
tardy fiber
Physical
hard wave
I thought it did dmg based on defense
hard wave
Ah ok
tardy fiber
But i rarely sync with her, i just spam aura sphere with her
oak crest
she was my nuker for off-type stuffs
tardy fiber
Because scguzma benefit more with sync...so i sync with him more
tardy fiber
Oh i used zerena
oak crest
the 1 that featured the neo-champs, she was a nuker for one, the other was zerena with her as debuffer iirc
hard wave
I just off type fighting stuff cuz im missing sc guzma/diantha, ssa cynthia, and summer hilda and thats half the fighting roster
My bea is still 2/5
tardy fiber
I heard korrina is kinda good for fighting stuffs
Well pretty sure she can clear on-type
hard wave
I have EX Wally, his sync just sucks
Prob cuz he’s a mega so may be the same w korrina
hard wave
Both but ye
cunning swan
Regular? Yeah the mega penalty, plus his sync multiplier is annoying to set up
Kekwalk
valid flint
I feel like wally is built more for dps, not nuking.
hard wave
Some pairs seem to not have a mega penalty tho
Like SS Red and SS Wally still do good dmg on their first sync iirc
Then there’s other pairs like regular wally blue and karen (which isnt terrible post expansion) that just suck
Oh diantha (gardevoir)’s is also kinda meh iirc
lean mango
I feel like wally is built more for dps, not nuking.
Yea definitely, he's my main only fighting striker and he does his job through DPS
cunning swan
Some pairs seem to not have a mega penalty tho
They do. They have much less base power on their sync
It comes down to their multipliers, stats, field effects etc
cunning swan
Well yeah, their grids play a huge part
That's why units like Karen and Cynthia who used to have bad syncs are now good thanks to their new grids
spare swift
They are talking about fall Allister
Oh, my bad. I thought Cami continued with his possibility to pull for anni N
dire meteor
I feel like wally is built more for dps, not nuking.
Focus Blast Wally my savior
cunning swan
Focus blast wally and slowgaleo for whenever we get sentry entry x2 fighting-weak
umbral meteor
~~or delete the unit and give us faba and solgaleo or smth~~
shiny solgaleo? thats probs a elio or gladion if its for some alolan character
umbral meteor
And hau gets dawn wings maybe
dawn wings can only go to selene or lillie probably
theres nothing hau can get in arc when we have elio , selene , lillie and gladion
umbral meteor
So pt 2 may be ss lysandre
probs also ss sycamore since shuld be 2 pokefairs
umbral meteor
Seems like VA only release base character like Hugh, Colress, Lucas, Shauna and ...
courtney and looker also
obv characters which have story relevance so far
umbral meteor
Well pretty sure she can clear on-type
she can but whats the point of it when ur some off type dmg dealer would do it better anw lol
umbral meteor
Prob cuz he’s a mega so may be the same w korrina
its because he has cakewalk so you have to use courtney , du gloria or ss diantha
and korrina has no multipliers so obv the sync would suck
vernal glade
I wouldn’t mind shiny solgaleo. But then Shiny Lunala tho.
vernal glade
Ya. I like yveltal shiny.
umbral meteor
shiny lunala shuld be clearcut selene ngl
unless its w/ someone not from alola ofc
vernal glade
pasio mc
umbral meteor
💀
lunar topaz
vernal glade
Giving solgaleo to pasio MC was a mistake.
tardy fiber
That's why i hope there will be real Alola legendary adventures in the making, mc solgaleo is not even alola
||Ilima tapu Koko ||
vernal glade
I would literally save for zeraora.
Like seriously, it’s my only favorite Alola pokemon of all time.
umbral meteor
That's why i hope there will be real Alola legendary adventures in the making, m...
well we know that wont happen
so no point even hoping for it
umbral meteor
Giving solgaleo to pasio MC was a mistake.
they probably didnt wanted to make lillie the LE or protag ( elio ) a LE so ig alola didnt have much options anw
tardy fiber
well we know that wont happen
Well at least if its Mc solgaleo, Alola VA EBE will be easier as they had to make Main Character tag pairs to get boosts also for it other than just Alola tag
So can even use other MCs
umbral meteor
So can even use other MCs
hopefully
tardy fiber
Blessing in disguise because MC doesn't have region tag, so they need to boost Main Character or Steel
tardy fiber
Molayne and Kimono Grimsley rise up
vernal glade
I need grimsley still. If it is indeed steel weak.
umbral meteor
steel weak can only mean we'd get a shiny solgaleo
alola doesnt have any other steel type anw
vernal glade
Right.
tardy fiber
Magearna too but fleur cannon so probably fairy
umbral meteor
lmao
umbral meteor
Magearna too but fleur cannon so probably fairy
yes signature is fairy
umbral meteor
that was because we had deoxys ~_~
and deoxys is psychic only
and they dont repeat types in arc
so brendan had to be dragon
unlikely magearna is steel
in alola tapu fini is the fairy one right
coz misty terrain
if we get that then maybe we get steel magearna
altho on base all 4 tapus are fairy
tardy fiber
Yep all 4 have fairy type, but each of them are elec, grass, psychic, water
umbral meteor
wonder if they make fini water despite it being MT settler
valid flint
i mean.... Gordie exists.
umbral meteor
erm gordie sets smth?
valid flint
if gordie can act like a sun setter/fire rebuffer despite being rock type, i can see fini being a fairy support despite beeing water
tardy fiber
Not sure if they will implement MT...unless they change to fairy zone instead
cunning swan
Remind me what misty terrain does in mainline again?
cunning swan
It also weakens dragon moves right?
umbral meteor
Remind me what misty terrain does in mainline again?
reduces dragon damage
and gives shieldd
gloomy holly
And also immune to all status effects?
umbral meteor
shields*
cunning swan
So what if it just applies temporary positive dragon rebuff 
tardy fiber
So what if it just applies temporary positive dragon rebuff <:hyperthinkbutfast:...
Sounds useless then...not every stage have dragon as opponent
cunning swan
tardy fiber
They probably play safe and just rain dance
cunning swan
The first misty terrain setter will have an innate sync effect of "The power of this sync move increases when the field is Misty Terrain"
feral vale
The first misty terrain setter will have an innate sync effect of "The power of ...
So true tho
tardy fiber
We probably wont get all 4 tapus for alola VA, one of em probably end up in MC hands as bp master unit for next anniversary...last year MC got Mesprit, so this year probably Tapu or Kanto birb
Oh kanto birb will go to Chatelaine
So probably one of the tapu
cunning swan
Man I love the kanto birbs but I have zero interest in the chatelaines 
And if they have to be BP units... 
lunar topaz
I want a surge alt with Zapdos idc which one preferably Galarian
lean mango
Galarian Zapdos my beloved
Tbh there's a lot of Pokemon that I really like to have but they don't fall under poison 
tardy fiber
I want zapdos and galar moltres more than the others...because i still lack more dark fave and elec fave...
But i should not be swayed by other non faves, pretty sure my types roster will be stacked when im done with legendaries, mythicals, UBs, Paradoxes
umbral meteor
I want a surge alt with Zapdos idc which one preferably Galarian
maybe volkner gets it
since he uses a zapdos in msg
or dana gets it
galarian zapdos shld go to bea
umbral meteor
We probably wont get all 4 tapus for alola VA, one of em probably end up in MC h...
might be none
since we have zeraora magearna and dawn wings left all 3 are more popular anw
spare swift
You know, I had a dream today, in which the MC's region was revealed. What's more to that is that the MC was given the choice to be of the region of his/her choice
Maybe this might come after all VAs will be finished and everyone will have to team up against all the villians
cunning swan
tardy fiber
I already put in feedback before so that MC's region is based on the pair pokemon. Not sure if DeNa will implement it
signal halo
For now I'm most curious about how part 2 will be for the Kalos VA
Both for the dreamed SS lysandre and shiny gyarados
And for sycamore's grid expansion
Crit squad 2 on trainer move and sycamore becomes the end all be all special support
clever oyster
Maybe this might come after all VAs will be finished and everyone will have to t...
actually, how will they be able to handle Alola VA? Lusamine already had her redemption arc
drowsy saddle
Could always play Mind Control card
upbeat lotus
Could always play Mind Control card
Or bring evil Lusamine from Ultra Wormhole 
onyx hearth
I wanna ex diantha in time for Karen tomorrow
Problem is I'm 7*PU short
And tempted to scout for the MFs 😩😩
I have to save for kalos part 2 though 
tardy fiber
Problem is I'm 7*PU short
Get it from lodge guest milestone
Oh probably cannot tomorrow
drowsy saddle
Got whole week to reach it
onyx hearth
I mean i can withhold Karen until r4 I guess and hope the power ups from CS is enough
onyx hearth
Got whole week to reach it
At any rate pulling for the MF isn't a good idea right
drowsy saddle
This is not a good resource investment
tardy fiber
Pulling just for 
is bad, not like you like the unit or you even want to fork a pity
tardy fiber
But rock weak johto aint that hard, not like its rock weak sinnoh or hoenn
Probably can clear even without
onyx hearth
Ik it's just my preference
hard wave
I wanna ex diantha in time for Karen tomorrow
Just KO the sides with dazzling gleam and use an EX support
onyx hearth
Ss diantha i mean
onyx hearth
Yeah i know it's not hard i just want her ex in the hall of fame lol
Just a superficial reason really
hard wave
Idk if she can handle the stage herself but u could also pair her with a support and olivia emmet hilda or blue
cunning swan
Like you said, it's not sinnoh or hoenn. I'm sure she's more than capable to handle the stage herself
At 90.8k gems right now
If we're going off of the gem count, looks like I'll be a little bit shy of 100k by January 29? 
little briar
Back to 73k gems, woo. Now to see how far I can keep going haha
lament hornet
well, no urges today at least
vestal leaf
Almost 200k here 🙏
tardy fiber
99,290 gems... waiting for reset to reach 100k 
tardy fiber
Oh right, twitter rally gems will be given on mid February so i will be shy of 3 pities with remaining January gems 
violet nebula
Eh its fine, perfect timing for Kalos VA part 2
tardy fiber
I need to save some of , maybe Volcanion or something will pop up in part 2
tardy fiber
Palentine as well, dena sometimes release my faves as festive seasonals like Calyrex and Naganadel
violet nebula
Due to Kalos VA part 2 and Alola VA (which likely have a MF or two) the seasonals must be skipped😞
lament hornet
i wish i was at your point already
tardy fiber
Zerena released during half anni month last year
Probably have MF too
Still a nightmare to me, manage to have enough gems to pity zerena two days before she's gome
violet nebula
I am OK on that front, got Zerena, somehow😅
Last year half ani with her and the others was brutal
tardy fiber
Luckily we got french dataminers, if not, I won't even be able to prepare myself
feral vale
I am OK on that front, got Zerena, somehow😅
I fucked up trying to get her, hoping I have a pity when she comes around.
deft glen
Luckily we got french dataminers, if not, I won't even be able to prepare myself
She's the reason I started playing this game, somehow I saw the datamine and decided to download the game 😅
spare swift
Still haven’t finished Villa yet, I should do that
Same here bro
rare swan
Don't lose that villa skip!
feral vale
28k achieved!
Finished it at this time lol
sturdy hatch
Remember to do your blissful bonanza trades in case it's rebroken or something!
do those trades
lament hornet
does the training rally also end next reset
feral vale
I could check again, one sec.
tardy fiber
I trade just for scout tix, lucky skill scroll and exp books
Thanks to gauntlet, I don't have cookies problem much
feral vale
does the training rally also end next reset
It’s this reset.
lament hornet
dang
sturdy hatch
I trade just for scout tix, lucky skill scroll and exp books
So long as it's enough things to get the missions done!
lament hornet
let it be known i'm at 10k gems
feral vale
That’s great!
cunning swan
Thanks to gauntlet, I don't have cookies problem much
I still exchange for cookies because I know lucky skill shaft will get to me
lament hornet
That’s great!
i mean i did say i left half intact last time
30h ago i was at ||18k||
feral vale
Oh 
lunar topaz
Never have I ever been more tempted by a gen pool
wind nymph
i am tempted to go with ss diantha pls help me to stop 🛑 i need 110k gems for favourite reserves. how to stop our own temptation pls help me
lunar topaz
i am tempted to go with ss diantha pls help me to stop 🛑 i need 110k gems for f...
Diantha is not really desirable if you do not have rock strikers that are good enough to make benefit of her and you can always off type/poison stall rock weeks I did that for a very long time until I had Olivia, and with Olivia she does not even need diantha as Olivia can already clear rock week fairly easily diantha is a good unit however she’s not necessary for a lot of reasons especially if you do not have good partners for her already
rare swan
Olivia is fantastic
rare swan
i am tempted to go with ss diantha pls help me to stop 🛑 i need 110k gems for f...
She's also here for 2 months, which means 2 datamines
If you find yourself still wanting her after that, you can assess accordingly
lunar topaz
One thing I’m not sure I’ve ever made sense of is why people want zone pairs if a unit Can already clear a stage without them why would you want to help boost them more if they’re fine without
violet nebula
True
But there is the "future proofing" aspect
But it's playing more on the "Let's collect and gamble" aspects
lunar topaz
What future proofing aspect, if a unit thays been widely considered as bad Calem can off type 2K rock week flint who has wise entry x2 why wouldn’t Olivia be able to on type 2K a rock week stage with sentry entry x2 she’s always had a very strong nuke even before zone and was one of the best in the game for the longest time
I don’t see much value on “future proofing” personally as on type is the easiest form of content there is
violet nebula
Yes I know, who knows, they might actually release half hard content
Some day🙄
But right now it's solely playing on the faves/gambling idea, there is 0 reason to summon anything currently
lunar topaz
I think hoenn and sinnoh were pretty difficult on their launch but to me if a unit can clear a stage they’re fine by me
unborn pier
Reason to summon gameplay wise only really exists for the people who are just bad at the game ig
In a way
drowsy saddle
Reason to summon gameplay wise only really exists for the people who are just ba...
Some people don't have faves in a way others do, so there isn't much left
unborn pier
Yeah that too
lunar topaz
Particularly if we been here for awhile
I mean I was able to clear hoenn 2K with entirely F2P teams and was able to off type with some units so you just need the F2P units and you’re fine imo
sturdy hatch
Some people don't have faves in a way others do, so there isn't much left
As long as they are cool with waiting for pity and missing future units that works
violet nebula
Mmhmm
When will this datamine come roughly? The usual dates fall outside of their normal days for releasing it
lunar topaz
Content ends on the 29th so I’d say from 27th-29th is when we’ll expect dayamine
unborn pier
I was going to say it could fall on the 29th as we shouldn’t have anything new before then or on the day
violet nebula
Sounds like a safe bet, ok thanks👍
rare swan
That would be the 30th in Japan.....hmm
#1012256199128915968 message
Y'all, our content ends on the 25th, not the 29th
Expect datamine on the 26th imo
unborn pier
Oh good point
tardy fiber
Y'all, our content ends on the 25th, not the 29th
Poma day dev letter again like last year they revealed palmarnie and palbea before datamine
rare swan
Oh yes they did, I remember that!
tardy fiber
2 pairs tease 
thank you DeNa
Tai, I'm working on 150 lysandre...did i make you proud? 
tardy fiber
31/53 done 150
Still far away
99,850 
...so close to 100k...500 gems are still in those missions
wind nymph
thank you ☺️ guys for helping me not gonna go with diantha temptation over gonna save for my favourite 💕
lean mango
Saving for yours faves is the best way to go 
violet nebula
thank you ☺️ guys for helping me not gonna go with diantha temptation over gonna...
We got a nice 2 months of her here, take time, assess Kalos VA pairs, possibly half ani units and make the decision
weary spire
Save for your favs 
lunar topaz
99,850 <:Gems:821419132556673048> ...so close to 100k...500 gems are still in th...
||how many gems did diancie 2 cost?||
tardy fiber
||how many gems did diancie 2 cost?||
||9k gems||
spare swift
tomorrow will be the day where I will have to decide
You can decide today too, since you are now guarenteed atleast 1 of the two
clever oyster
You can decide today too, since you are now guarenteed atleast 1 of the two
you mean there's definitely not gonna be a datamine tomorrow?
tardy fiber
Too early for a datamine
spare swift
Datamine usually comes near end of the month
clever oyster
...alright, in that case, it's time for the incredibly hard decision
NY Sabrina or Anni Lillie?
spare swift
NY Sabrina or Anni Lillie?
Pulling for their kit or trainers or pokemon?
clever oyster
in the case of NY Sabrina, trainer
in the case of Anni Lillie, Pokémon
spare swift
Hmm
drowsy saddle
Sabrina will rerun in a year, Lillie is unpredictable mf
spare swift
Oh, hi rikko bro
spare swift
Sabrina will rerun in a year, Lillie is unpredictable mf
Yes, that's very true
master Fairs are always are priority, since you dont know when they will come again..
||still waiting for leon rerun||
tardy fiber
Welp turns out i forgot to claim gems in inbox, forgotten due to having extra sync orbs stuck in the inbox ... reached 100k
drowsy saddle
Welp turns out i forgot to claim gems in inbox, forgotten due to having extra sy...
You can cycle orbs down if you want, MCchu orb exchange is 10:1.
tardy fiber
But dont worry, its not that detrimental like ticket ❗...that one can make me missed out claiming free daily 20 gems
clever oyster
hmm...two votes for Anni Lillie so far...any more votes?
rare swan
You shouldn't pull based on votes
One must be a bigger fave than the other - think about the pair you'd be more disappointed to miss
tardy fiber
Actually ||if it's about my faves, I don't even ask for an opinion...i just pull , i only ask like candy advice or which to 150 first...hate to miss any of my faves ||
clever oyster
One must be a bigger fave than the other - think about the pair you'd be more di...
I honestly don't know...
spare swift
When you are unable to decide, flip a coin
Or you can check which pair will improve your roster more than the other
Since when favs clash, either luck or meta has to come in between
Honestly, first go for master fair, then if gems permit, you can surely go for NY Sabrina
clever oyster
Honestly, first go for master fair, then if gems permit, you can surely go for N...
gems 100% won't permit
also, there's another added problem
if I end up choosing Anni Lillie over NY Sabrina
then I will have to wait for the next datamine anyway
because who knows what will be this year's Palentine's sync pairs
drowsy saddle
Isn't that a benefit?)
spare swift
But atleast you will know that Sab will rerun in next new year
But only Dena knows when will Annilillie come back
What's worse is that Sab has half the rates of spawning than that of Annilillie
(NY Sabrina = 0.5%
Annilillie= 1%)
upbeat lotus
If you want to spend paid gems, Sabrina may return sooner in seasonal selects
chrome nest
I’m the one that decides most things out of impulse
clever oyster
If you want to spend paid gems, Sabrina may return sooner in seasonal selects
absolutely not
I am 100% F2P
upbeat lotus
Well Lunala is still the better option
chrome nest
If the second super special costume comes with the second sc units
I need self control
upbeat lotus
Sabrina returns one year later, and you dont know when Lunala will return
clever oyster
true
...well, in that case, I guess I'll have to wait until the next datamine then
spare swift
Btw, aren't there any NY 2020 units?
chrome nest
Main problem I have is self control
upbeat lotus
Btw, aren't there any NY 2020 units?
New Year seasonal didnt exist back then
upbeat lotus
Main problem I have is self control
Stop thinking, easy
spare swift
Ou
autumn panther
New Year seasonal didnt exist back then
new years never happened before 2021, that's a know fact
2020 is the same year as 2019, 2018, 2017...
upbeat lotus
autumn panther
also spring only ever happened on 2021
before and after we're going from winter to summer
spare swift
before and after we're going from winter to summer
Fall exists
tardy fiber
Bring spring back...i want more goofy alts
spare swift
Palentine has made spring devoid of its existence
clever oyster
Bring spring back...i want more goofy alts <:Hopium:875906112963117056>
sorry, you get more Donald alts instead
tawny cedar
Gem update, procrastinating really hurt my gem count,but i should end this month with 16.4K,so I'll need 20.2K next month for a Lysandre or sycamore alt
sturdy flower
Some people don't have faves in a way others do, so there isn't much left
i kinda do that, or rather the characters I want just don't get alts often if at all
but Diantha is a skip
viscid flare
Man ive been wasting so many gems
The game gets boring unless i use gems at this point
Why am i saving if i can get whatever i want
If i get low ill just skip so i find no reason to save atm
reef river
I feel that sometimes. Best you can do is really imagine that a pair you'd absolutely want is definitely coming soon
And also just step away from the game. Do your dailies as quick as possible and keep it closed the rest of the day. Move on to another game
It does sometimes feel boring if you dont pull for a new pair every month or so
tardy fiber
Yep dracovish probably will release only on one pair, so just make sure you have one pity at all times. You can use the remaining gems on your other faves if you have one
clever oyster
...this is probably gonna be the most painful wait yet...
tardy fiber
Its always a painful wait for me on a skip month ...too thirsty for new datamine info, too stingy to be tempted on non faves
vestal leaf
Why am i saving if i can get whatever i want
If you want WANT it why should you skip it
The important thing is knowing when it's just a momentary lashout of bore
lament hornet
The game gets boring unless i use gems at this point
relatable
vestal leaf
That said, it also depends on your fave quantity
tough oriole
I feel that sometimes. Best you can do is really imagine that a pair you'd absol...
That’s exactly what I do, it works really well
||It helps that Alola VA is probably next and that it’s been almost a year since the Tea Party SCs first came 
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tardy fiber
That’s exactly what I do, it works really well
||It helps that Alola VA is pro...
||MC ||
reef river
That’s exactly what I do, it works really well
||It helps that Alola VA is pro...
Yeah the fact that the next va is 50% going to be the one im waiting for gives me that extra incentive to be better at saving this month
tardy fiber
I wonder if it will become my new nightmare, before this its pokewar sc....four faves in a dry gems month with only a month to get them all
Still many legendaries, mythicals, UBs of alola still not yet released
reef river
That month was rough.
tardy fiber
I remembered crying seeing the video trailer
Luckily i skipped fall
So i got some gems
Also some leftovers from anniv
reef river
That october/november/december was the worst for me
It was before i was careful with my gems
||i spent a large chunk of gems on fall caitlin and didnt get her (22k+) and then guzma and hilda i both wanted and didnt have gems for pity. I ended up lucking out with them but there was no guarantee and i could have been in an awful spot easily||
||and i used paid gems for dailies too on them||
Not good
honest fulcrum
I feel that with the recent months
Saving is a chore when new content pass you by but thinking about yet-to-be-released new content that might tickle your fancy even more is good
reef river
Even now the urge to pull on diantha is there. I swear having a relatively high amount of gems is a curse for me
"It sure would be nice to have! Look you have gems to spare!" These thoughts are hard to overcome
tardy fiber
I resist the urge to pull during skip months by investing on my base 3* 4* units to be 5* or even 5* 20/20
I like to see them having yellow border
reef river
Ive done this to the extent that i can long ago
tardy fiber
And having stats rivaling base 5*
The journey probably wont ever be over, as i plan to 5* eggmons when I'm done with normal pairs
reef river
Ive made all of my pairs at least 4* and i only have like 35 pairs that i havent 5*d
Eggmons excluded, i dislike eggmons
tardy fiber
As most shiny eggmons only have 1 fixed role so i treat the shiny versions like a unique pair
reef river
Anyway time to put the phone down and do something productive
tardy fiber
Eggmons will be stronger as level cap becomes much higher, they doesn't need certs to level up. Striker eggmon will have 400 atk after we get level cap 170
lament hornet
i'm guessing birthday isn't a good occassion to celebrate with a multi when i'm supposed to try to save lmfao
tardy fiber
So your 10k savings is no longer 10k 
lament hornet
oh no i have not pulled
this is more of a question
||my birthday celebration was 2 extra paid dailies||
tardy fiber
I wont pull anything on my birthday if theres no banner that i chase on that day, also i probably still won't pull as if any banner that i aim for release, i usually pulled on it around 5 minutes of the release.
clever oyster
Its always a painful wait for me on a skip month <:ZinniaSnapped:674768835248783...
for me, it's even worse:
the banner that has one of my trainer faves is ending today, but it's the NY reruns banner, which can just return next year
the banner that has one of my Pokémon faves is one of the 3 anni banners, so who knows when THEY will be rerun again
what if February adds a new alt for one of my trainer faves? then I would have to make a difficult decision between THAT and one of the anni sync pairs
tardy fiber
for me, it's even worse:
>the banner that has one of my trainer faves is ending...
Well you have to accept that you wont get anyone, if I'm in your shoes, i will grab the unit that are less likely to rerun...if you skip ny unit...you always know that they will rerun on January next year, if you scared that the rerun have bad rates...36.6k pity amount can guarantee you, even if its 0.00001% rate each
Just save 36.6k before January next year
tardy fiber
Bad rates like aiming other lodge units in a different lodge featured unit banner 
well at least lodge banner will always be here
clever oyster
Well you have to accept that you wont get anyone, if I'm in your shoes, i will g...
so, like, don't even wait for the next datamine then? because I was instructed to wait for the next datamine first because "who knows what February might have to offer"
sly breach
Since today is lisia last should i try my luck with another 3k gems or am i being silly
tardy fiber
so, like, don't even wait for the next datamine then? because I was instructed t...
if you moved on from picking any ny units and annilillie's banner still not gone soon. You can just wait for datamine just to see if there's any upcoming units that you might like more
clever oyster
I mean...I already have low hopes that any of my fave trainers will be featured in any special February events...
like, I feel like it's too early for the likes of Sabrina, Elesa and Skyla to suddenly get a new alt on February again, and Flannery will never get an alt
tardy fiber
annilillie banner will be gone on February 6, so around 20 more days...pretty sure we will get datamine before she's gone
clever oyster
that's what I have been told...it's just that the wait for the datamine is so painful...
vestal leaf
🙏
tardy fiber
Nice, i'm not sure if i will ever reach that amount...still a bunch of faves not yet released
rotund sleet
i probably won't ever reach that amount either, it far exceeds what i'll realistically need for my personal spending habits. it's very impressive regardless
tardy jolt
like, I feel like it's too early for the likes of Sabrina, Elesa and Skyla to su...
Wdym? They are all popular female trainers, maybe not Sabrina due to the NY Re-run, but Flannery, Elesa and Skyla are all very likely candidates for a Palentines alt
Not to speak of 3.5, which could very well give us an Elesa + Thunderous sync pair
cunning swan
I can see Elesa getting something for 3.5 just so she can match with Skyla, yeah
But I'm coping for PLA
tardy jolt
I mean, even Palentines is very probable, we just saw Witney get an alt
cunning swan
I mean...I already have low hopes that any of my fave trainers will be featured ...
February should give us kalos VA part 2 so if you have kalos characters that you like, you might need to look out for that
Skyla probably isn't too likely. Anni skyla might rerun for 3.5 after all. But who knows
tardy jolt
February and March are stacked months, it’s always good to save if you’re in doubt, plus in @clever oyster case, Anni Lilie is the best pick in terms of availability and she’s here until datamine
cunning swan
We'll continue being stacked until end of March for sure 
tardy jolt
April with a possible Special Costumes event as well
clever oyster
Wdym? They are all popular female trainers, maybe not Sabrina due to the NY Re-r...
if Flannery would have been a likely candidate for an alt
she would have gotten one a long time ago
tardy jolt
Sabrina and Witney got Seasonal alts as fairly popular gym leaders just last year, Flannery is quite popular and in the same league as them, so I’d say stay on your toes
As I said, Lillie is the best choice due to inconsistency in MF reruns, while Sabrina is at least guaranteed to be in 2 banners a year with the super seasonal and the NY rerun banner, so I’d say it doesn’t hurt to wait at least until February datamine and to see what’s coming
cunning swan
if Flannery would have been a likely candidate for an alt
She's always been a likely candidate. We have a lot of fairly popular characters with zero alts, it's not uncommon
Watch, she's gonna jumpscare us with an alt the way Whitney did
vestal leaf
Nice, i'm not sure if i will ever reach that amount...still a bunch of faves not...
Me too
I'm just oculate and patient
also not too unlucky
So while I have a ton of faves, I can sometimes skip them for rerun chances or for bigger faves
I also rarely chase meta
And if I do it's usually to use the pair to boost a weaker one
clever oyster
oh god, what if Flannery gets an alt that is a Master Sync Pair?
that would 100% make the decision impossible for me
because that would mean having to decide between a MS Pokémon and a MS trainer
cunning swan
I wouldn't go that far 
But who knows, even Ethan and Kris are master pairs despite not being too popular though they're paired with very popular mons
I can see Flannery being a seasonal. Maybe even pokefair
rare swan
Flannery is definitely very overdue for an alt
her, Sycamore and Gladion are the last 'officially popular' characters with no alts
timber wren
the fact that she’s so prominently featured in shauna’s event has me 🤨
rare swan
(I'll also include Silver in that because he was a TL launch pair)
rare swan
the fact that she’s so prominently featured in shauna’s event has me 🤨
I think she'll be getting an EX soon, using that pose on the event promo screen
cunning swan
her, Sycamore and Gladion are the last 'officially popular' characters with no a...
You think Hau will ever get an alt in a world where Gladion exists? 
cunning swan
(I'll also include Silver in that because he was a TL launch pair)
Forever mad he's not with sneasel
Lodge pair decisions are weird. 7.8/10 too much water
rare swan
You think Hau will ever get an alt in a world where Gladion exists? <:greensive:...
there's going to be a bloodbath over the Alola alts tbh
(and Lillie is going to win 
)
rare swan
Forever mad he's not with sneasel
hopefully they're saving that for a his first real alt
cunning swan
Yknow I'm praying for a jumpscare alola neo champion event to free up space for alola VA alts
rare swan
Selene, Elio, Hau and Gladion all battling it out for their first alts while Lillie is like
and that's not even taking the adults into account
Alola will be interesting
cunning swan
hopefully they're saving that for a his first real alt <:Hopium:8759061129631170...
I don't think Sneasel is cool enough to be... In any banner 
lodge was a perfect opportunity
BP Silver it is!
little briar
Forever mad he's not with sneasel
Yeah I'm not complaining he has Feraligatr, but we saw Sneasel earlier before in the Ho-oh event too....
So por que
clever oyster
...the worst part about the wait for the datamine is probably not even the wait itself (even though the wait itself is also pretty bad), but rather the suspense of not knowing what PMEX is gonna have for February, and thus, not knowing how to plan out my gem spendings...
feral vale
I think what’s nice is datamine happens where you have enough time before they come out to decide things.
clever oyster
except I am bad at deciding, so it's not like "more time" would make the difference for me...
drowsy saddle
Have you considered letting luck decide it? If two pairs are faves, you get one fave either way, and likely wait for another to rerun.
If you flip a coin or roll a die, you'll get an answer.
Might help with indecisiveness. If a fave you get out of specified list doesn't matter, that is.
clever oyster
I mean...the problem is that one of the two faves is...highly unlikely to rerun...but what if the other fave turns out to be a bigger fave than the first fave?
drowsy saddle
Is it a bigger fave currently?
clever oyster
the one that is highly unlikely to rerun? I am...unsure...
I am not sure if NY Sabrina or the Lunala of Anni Lillie is a bigger fave
I only decided to not go with NY Sabrina because she can just return next NY
drowsy saddle
If you're not sure, it's unlikely you'll change your opinion out of blue one day.
But even if you do, you have no way to know it now.
No matter the choice, you can go "What if my choice will be wrong?"
What if you suddenly go on Lillie compilation rewatch streak and regret getting Sabrina?
Or replay RBY to regret scouting Lillie afterwards?
There's nothing you can predict.
One thing for certain: you'll get a fave. You'll be able to use it.
And even if something changes, you'll still be able to get another one, just later on.
clever oyster
...well, today is the last day of NY Sabrina
that means I need to decide now
Anni Lillie or NY Sabrina?
I already asked that multiple times, both here and in #poma-questions
most of the time, the general consensus from the other people was Anni Lillie since NY Sabrina can just come back next NY event
feral vale
That’s for you to figure out.
feral vale
It may be a tough choice, but not like our answers will be any better because we don’t know your favs.
clever oyster
well, when it comes to Pokémon, my faves are...too many to count
but let me put it this way:
in the case of NY Sabrina, I like the trainer, but don't particularly care for the Pokémon
in the case of Anni Lillie, I like the Pokémon, but don't particularly care for the trainer
feral vale
Think about the level of faveness. Not to compare them, but I mean in general.
If you were to put Lunala on a list of the Pokémon favs, where would they go?
If you were to put Sabrina on a list of the Trainer favs, where would she go?
clever oyster
hmm...that's hard to say, since it's hard for me to compare my Trainer faves in a cross-generation fashion
but I can at least say this: Sabrina is my #1 favorite out of specifically the Kanto trainers
unborn pier
Part of it could depend on if you’d rather a 1% of getting the exact pair you want or 1.5% total of getting pairs you want less
For Lillie and Sabrina respectively
clever oyster
Do you have any Trainer favs above her?
well, not from Kanto, at least...
unborn pier
Assuming you have a pity but just in case some NY pairs are unwanted
clever oyster
...but then there are my faves from Hoenn and Unova
and I would definitely rank them higher than Sabrina, if only slightly higher
but Lillie is a trainer from Alola, and when it comes to Alola trainers, Lillie is...kinda low on the list...but the problem is that I still really really like Lunala
so instead, the question is: do I like Sabrina more than Lunala?
and that's a question I am literally unable to answer
timber wren
is there something about NY sabrina’s outfit that you love enough that you want to see it in the pokecenter more than lunala?
bc ofc we always have sabrina alakazam
and NY sabrina doesn’t have a special sync pair story either, just the NY event stories that she shares with NY volkner
feral vale
That is a good point.
clever oyster
bc ofc we always have sabrina alakazam
Skyla may be a free unit and Elesa may be a common 5*, but that didn't stop me from trying to get the other versions of Skyla and Elesa because I am really THAT much of a simp for them (that, and I just so happen to prefer Elesa's B1/W1 design over her B2/W2 design)
timber wren
precicely why i asked that question
hard wave
R u f2p? If not u could always get her from a seasonal select
clever oyster
I am F2P
funnily enough, if NY Sabrina would have had a better Pokémon or at least a better kit, I would have instantly went with NY Sabrina over Anni Lillie
hard wave
Maybe go for sabrina? Lillie could get more reruns or we could get shiny lunala, another lunala thats a support/tech, or dawn wings for the VA
clever oyster
but as it stands, I don't really care for Chingling, and NY Sabrina's kit is kinda...uh...not exactly optimal...
and this is where Anni Lillie has the advantage: I like Lunala more than Chingling, and Anni Lillie has the better kit imo, but it comes at the cost of the trainer being Lillie, and I don't particularly care for Anni Lillie
so it's basically a choice of a trainer I like with a Pokémon I don't care for and a bad kit vs a trainer I don't care for with a Pokémon I like and a good kit