Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)

[vestal leaf]

Probably a year and some

Since I never do selects

[mental skiff]

only gems i had is ash 1000 gems

= 11

[vestal leaf]

I skipped that

[strange topaz]

Idk if tomorrow’s selects are worth

We’ll see

[vestal leaf]

I only bought gems for 4/400

Of banners I was ready to pity in

[strange topaz]

I bought gems to pity someone

Felt horrible

[vestal leaf]

Yikes

Savegems

[strange topaz]

Yeah June sucked

[vestal leaf]

Always save gems

[strange topaz]

Never again

[vestal leaf]

I never dropped under 80k since first half anni

Gotta stay strong

[mental skiff]

people always saving gems but i just joint after 2.5 anni

[vestal leaf]

Almost to 200k atm

[strange topaz]

Yeah I’m done with seasonals

[vestal leaf]

I can taste it

[strange topaz]

Just mfs now

Pokefair will depend on timing

[mental skiff]

I almost done with Seasonal rerun only NY, Pal and Summer left

[sturdy flower]

what does the 27900 mean in your name

[vestal leaf]

How much I'm missing to next goal

I should update

There

[timber wren]

#1010223517565976737 has been updated for december's gem count

[mental skiff]

tomorrow is a great day

+5000 gems into bank account

[cunning swan]

[tardy fiber]

+5k but i also gonna minus 5-10k due to selects

[sturdy flower]

you dont have to

[mental skiff]

[cunning swan]

[sly breach]

2 support candy in exchange for 300 gems worth it or not

[sturdy flower]

300?

[hard wave]

U can get candies with 300 gems?

[sly breach]

No i mean to get brendan to 3/5 for extreme battle

[mental skiff]

[hard wave]

SS Brendan is prob good to get to 3/5 anyway but wouldnt candy for 300 gems

[mental skiff]

Time to use credit card

[cunning swan]

Generally we don't recommend investing into candies and EX just to clear a stage

But SS Brendan is a good 3/5 candidate anyway

[mental skiff]

F2p option pretty good Hoenn tho

👀

[sturdy flower]

Hoenn is pretty easy, yeah

[hard wave]

I used ss steven but zinnia should be able to do it as well

[mental skiff]

just slap dauntless on May

[hard wave]

Roxanne is a good support and u can use another support like glacia phoebe etc. (my 3rd member was sidney for potions but u should be fine w brendan)

[cunning swan]

The gimmick is a shit ton of debuffs. Generally you use an impervious tank

Like Flannery

[hard wave]

Oh right

I didnt notice it cuz of downside up

[sly breach]

Yeh until one hammer are makes her disappear

[cunning swan]

Hey, Flannery/Hop/Zinnia could do it when it first came out

Now with her powerboost you have better chances

[sly breach]

If phoebe can't help while beign on type how is hop meant to help or are people using the dragon moves instead of dragon ascent?

[hard wave]

The type of the support doesnt matter unless it will be weak to the opponent

[mental skiff]

Put Fannery as 1st tho

I think people use Dragon Meteo with Dauntless i guess

[violet nebula]

Diantha and Shauna are spotlights? Will they re run?

[mental skiff]

Shauna spotlight

Diantha pokefair 👀

[violet nebula]

Oooh

May just get Diantha and call it a day, need to save for Kalos VA part 2, possible MF coming

[hard wave]

We have 3 already but maybe a zerena rerun

[violet nebula]

We never know with Dena, plus the 3.5 anni pairs😬

Next 2 months will be hell

[mental skiff]

Kalos VA end on start of March tho so probably Alola after Anni

[sturdy flower]

[mental skiff]

Palentine/Kalos VA Part 2 -> 3.5 Anni -> Alola VA

take that

[reef river]

This month is the month to build a gem stash

[crisp oracle]

Palentines, does that usually have quality units?

[reef river]

Got 2 high value select scouts, skippable ny, and a pokefair that lasts till launch

I want a stash for anni

.5 anni i mean

Palentines usually never appeals to me

But you never know

[crisp oracle]

So I can skip this month and just pull on SS Di come march datamine in late feb

[hard wave]

Not rlly skippable for everyone

[sand crown]

After the frogs massacred me I am super thankful

[reef river]

Thats always tru for every month

[hard wave]

Tru

[reef river]

I was lucky bc i dont care about frogs ||but i did care about johto christmas||

[crisp oracle]

Can I ask about coins here?

[hard wave]

There’s MFs tho so im assuming many ppl r pulling for them

[reef river]

Im in a lucky/good spot gem-wise. 47k going into tomorrow and a month im not spending a single free gem on

[cunning swan]

That's just an example how f2p units can clear the EBE

If you have phoebe instead, use her

[crisp oracle]

I hate how all them candy hungry techs are coming out

[sand crown]

Ah yes, Poma since 2021

[reef river]

What ive been doing is waiting a month or two after pulling a new tech

Before i decide to candy

Bc odds are there might be something better on the horizon

[hard wave]

We’ve gotten more techs this year than we have in both 2020 and 2021

Atleast for pokefairs

[reef river]

Thats because theyve had to fill out all the zone types

[sand crown]

Yup. Even dojo gloria got champion Serena nearby

[hard wave]

Were lucas and ssr cynthia in 2021 or 2022?

[crisp oracle]

The good news is that I only have 2 candy worth techs

Serena frog and Anni N

[cunning swan]

Ssr cynthia late december 2021, lucas january 2022

[hard wave]

I have 2/5 raihan and 1/5 cerena and bede to candy

I might not do raihan tho incase there’s an anni 2.5 rerun banner

[sand crown]

I have Anni Skyla and SS Korrina who I’ve been wanting to candy

[hard wave]

Oh ok

[sand crown]

But better techs pop up and I had to use candies there

[hard wave]

21 techs in 2022 compared to 16 techs from 2019-2021

[hard wave]

Oh I also have 1/5 ss leaf and 2/5 marnie but I prob wont candy

[sand crown]

The onslaught of techs and now expanded gridding make candies very much a fave or nothing

[hard wave]

Tbh most units dont rlly need 5/5 I think so id just candy to 3/5

[sand crown]

Yeah i agree

[hard wave]

Out of my techs marnie ss wally ss leaf bede have 5/5 grids (which is half of my techs), ill prob leave leaf and marnie at their current move level unless I pull copies in the future, may candy bede, and leaving ss wally at 3/5

I think he doesnt get anything super interesting at 4/5 and 5/5 either

[sand crown]

Extension’s the big one but very few battles justify that

[hard wave]

I use wally with bede/diantha and usually finish the stage before zone ends

Maybe for latias it’d be useful but eh

[grim plover]

44555 gems saved, expecting to get two pities at the end of the month for the first time

[reef river]

If they extend the 2.5 anni units i hope skyla gets flying zone extension

[cunning swan]

Starting off the new year strong

Happy new year, gem zen! Have a great zen year ahead

[mental skiff]

[sturdy hatch]

Farewell

[vernal glade]

I can’t decide what Alola unit I want to EX to prepare for the Alola VA.

[sturdy flower]

how about EXing it when Alola VA arrives

[vernal glade]

Good idea.

[wind nymph]

How do you have so many?!

[vernal glade]

Still saving strong on these

[sturdy hatch]

Saving!

And efficient farming of events

[vernal glade]

These coins are gonna be for the VA EB for Alola and Galar.

[hard wave]

Hau, Olivia, Hala, Kiawe, Elio, SC/Anni Lillie, LuSSa, SC Guzma, MR are all good options I think

[vernal glade]

Well uh, I don’t have Lusa SS and Anni Lillie

So that’s a problem for me

[hard wave]

Ye just some options for good alola pairs, but by then maybe we’ll have alola pokefairs

[feral vale]

GIVE

[vernal glade]

No, I need them for the Alola VA the most nervous VA.

[feral vale]

[wind nymph]

Alola villain event is gonna give us a Lusamine & Nihilego alt, and the villain is just gonna be Ultra Beasts

Im calling it now

[vernal glade]

I hope I can beat the EB…

I need those gems

[wind nymph]

Same

[mint pike]

New Year’s Eve count.

[little briar]

Managed to hit 60k before the new year, woo

I gave up on the Extreme battles and went "oh yeah, i never did the sync pair evolutions for units I didn't care about"

[tardy fiber]

New year gems

Well actually 6 am gems because i already asleep at 11 pm

[feral vale]

I’m at 41k now

[reef river]

Number will only go up next month

||paid gem count will go down but||

80k is my goal. I dont think ive ever hit 80k

[feral vale]

You got this

[reef river]

In the past the few times ive gotten close to 2 full sparks, either the impulse gets me or a fav comes out

The only thing i have to resist in jan is rock zone, and thats not even a permanent choice, i have 2 full datamines to decide

[feral vale]

Is Diantha a fav? •.•

[reef river]

No its literally just rock zone in order to improve the rock pairs that i do like such as classic blue

Basically a meta pull. Id only choose her if february is completely dry for me too which is possible

This is why i wish there were cheaper options for zones, like blaine level units who only exist to press zone and do no damage or utility

[feral vale]

Guess we’ll have to see what next datamine holds.

[tardy fiber]

Palentine and Kalos Part 2

[reef river]

Palentine has been a skip for me 2 years in a row, and i dont particularly like any kalos characters

Theres definitely some variation of ss lysandre that id consider at least tho

Or maybe if they decide to do more gym leader sygna suits, ss viola

[feral vale]

I’m hoping to get ||Palentine’s Serena|| in a select instead of the tier scout.

[crude coral]

Pal Serena + Zerena + Cerena
= Triple Noir Serena

[tardy fiber]

I might be in danger if they release manaphy or magearna or something for palentine

[feral vale]

SAME

[lunar topaz]

I think we’re near guaranteed to see Slurpuff or Dachsbund

[crisp oracle]

If I don't have a pity, should I skip NY? No real favorites

[tardy fiber]

Wow paldea pokemon already

[tardy fiber]

You should skip everything that is not a favourite so that you will have gems when your favourite appears

[crisp oracle]

Im at 34K. Hoping to use this month to stack because Diantha lasts until March

[sand crown]

That's me and 3 pities

[mental skiff]

reset today... although i dont think i want ||SS Dawn|| but her ex is so tempting... Hope i can combat the urge

[upbeat lotus]

you mean ||NY Dawn?||

[tardy fiber]

There's ||ssdawn|| in the select iirc

[glass abyss]

||SS Dawn isn’t even the best Support in that lineup I believe||

[feral vale]

||SS Brendan is the best one imo||

[glass abyss]

||Or at least I like SS Brendan and Classic Red far more||

[glass abyss]

Agreed

[upbeat lotus]

oh right i forgot about select

[tardy fiber]

For now ||i gonna get one for sskorrina dupe, but thats for now... I haven't see the full lineup yet||

Although some might say me chasing dupes is costly, any cheap chance to make all my faves 3/5 quicker is good...the coin bundle is too expensive for me to keep regularly buying it

[lapis pine]

Since selects are happening this reset I will take this opportunity to remind everyone that 5k selects are a bit of a scam. We all know that 3k selects are the best paid gem value, however you’re much better doing dailies than spending 5k on a select. Dailies will net you a 2% featured unit every 4.5k gems on average, and doing so you will get 45 regular pulls of

[feral vale]

There’s a pic, I don’t think there’s more than the 6

[tardy fiber]

Last January select pic didn't show N, but i got him from select scout A

There's hidden units unless they mentioned it like anni select on twitter

[feral vale]

[lapis pine]

Even then, I wouldn’t recommend dailies but if you’re going to spend paid gems on something other than 3k selects, then dailies are just better than 5k selects.

Make sure you save paid gems as well as free gems and spend wisely

[tardy fiber]

But if a banner is 30 days long so we can only do 30 dailies, so how if we still didn't get the featured unit after all 30 dailies?

Dailies always have that risk

[lapis pine]

That is something to consider, but that doesn’t change the expected value of dailies which is better than the expected value of 5k selects

[timber wren]

not sure where this math is coming from, 50 dailies on a 2% banner is a 64% chance to get at least one featured unit

[lapis pine]

And 50% is average no?

Sometimes you get it less and sometimes more but it averages out as better expected value

[timber wren]

depends on how you define “average” bc it still means 1/3 people will spend 5k paid on dailies and get nothing

[lapis pine]

True, but that is balanced out by more often getting the featured unit early

Average really only has one definition here

[tardy fiber]

Yep, i rather believe in 100% getting the unit than a chance of getting the unit. Might be different with other people, but my luck isn't that good.

[feral vale]

Same

[timber wren]

i agree with the original premise that 5k paid is a worse deal than 3k selects but i’m not sold that dailies are a better investment. to reach 90% confidence that you’d get a featured unit on dailies it’s over 10k paid

[lapis pine]

“Luck” isn’t really something you have or don’t have, there is an value that you can expect to reach on average over n amount of tests. And that value for dailies is better than 5k selects

[drowsy saddle]

Is it?

[lapis pine]

Yeah, since the average for dailies is around 4.5k paid gems

You reach 50% around that amount spent

It will take a lot more to get a high confidence value, but that’s not what we’re talking about here

You have the same chance of spending more than 4.5k as you do with spending less

[maiden kayak]

5k select is not worth it

if its 3k yes

[drowsy saddle]

Hm, accounting for 2% rate, you'd have around 63% rate of getting a featured pair with 5k paid gems, i.e. 50 dailies

[maiden kayak]

5k seems its too much

[lapis pine]

And 50% is the average

[maiden kayak]

but 5k means u can have double the dailies of a select

[drowsy saddle]

50% is around 34-35 dailies iirc

[lapis pine]

Oh really, then dailies are much better

[maiden kayak]

altho rng can screw u

lol

[lapis pine]

I recalled that 45 dailies was 50%

[maiden kayak]

its just that 5k is too much to swallow for a select imo

[lapis pine]

Yes but with averages rng will give it to you early with equal frequency of giving it to you late

[drowsy saddle]

Spending 3.5k for just a 50% chance of a pair is not something you'd want to do

[timber wren]

i think this was the case before they rolled out the new daily gem bundles

[lapis pine]

Keep in mind it’s a 50% chance of getting it before 3.5k, so it could just as easily be in the first daily as the last. This means that over a long period of time, you’re paying 3.5k paid gems for each 2% unit

[timber wren]

they’re less valuable than 3k selects but they still shake out to $5 usd

[drowsy saddle]

Wait, but it's for a 50% chance of a unit. So you'd pay twice of that on average

[lapis pine]

That’s not how chance works

[timber wren]

pinkie is operating on the assumption that you are taking this risk multiple times

[drowsy saddle]

Mind elaborating in details then?

[timber wren]

over the course of 10 trials (50k paid gems) the dailies on 2% banners would work out more successes than 10 paid selects

[maiden kayak]

oh u mean still same value in terms of dollars?

[timber wren]

i mean that 5k paid costs less money than previously

[maiden kayak]

oh

[drowsy saddle]

If something has a 50% chance of happening, on a long enough distance the number of "happening" and "not happening" is equal, correct? Like a coin flip.
So each time you do 35 dailies on a banner, you have a 50% chance to get a unit. 50% chance to lose.

So in a long run, half the time you get a unit, half the time you waste the gems. Meaning your average sync pair costs 7k paid gems.

If you can find a mistake in this statement, I'm listening.

[lapis pine]

If you flip a coin 10 times, you can say on average you will get 5 tails and 5 heads. In practice this rarely happens in the first 10 flips, however before flipping the coin 10 times, you can expect to get these 5 tails and 5 heads. Some times you may get 7 tails and 3 heads, but over time you’ll tend towards having an equal number of heads and tails. It’s the same with dailies, before spending 3.5k dailies you can expect to get 1 2% unit. Sometimes you will spend more, and sometimes you will spend less, but over time it will end out as an average 3.5k (or 4.5k as I thought) for each unit

[feral vale]

I agree with Rikko.

I don’t want to gamble.

I just want to guarantee a unit I want.

[lapis pine]

To show the flaw in this reasoning. Let’s say you want to get 2 tails. If you flip the coin 4 times you are expected to get 2 tails on average, you have a 50% chance of getting 2 tails. This does not mean that you need to flip the coin 8 times to get 2 tails.

[lapis pine]

This is also fine reasoning. However you can’t change the fact that you’re spending more paid gems then you would otherwise

[drowsy saddle]

But you already doubled the number - from 2 to 4.

Get 2 tails, you need 4 flips on average.

[feral vale]

And how big of a difference is it?

[lapis pine]

Yes, and 4 gives you 50% odds. Doubling it again is what you’re doing

[drowsy saddle]

Wait, no.

You're the one who doesn't double enough.

[lapis pine]

50%=average

[tardy fiber]

Its just i think spending 5k paid or 3k paid for a guaranteed still better than potentially spending 36.6k gems to get the same unit on rerun

[lapis pine]

I think this is what you need to try and understand

[drowsy saddle]

You're saying that if a pair has a 50% chance of being scouted with 35 dailies, you'd get them with 35 dailies on average.
But you'd get them with 35 dailies only half the time. So you'd have to scout 2*X banners to get X featured pairs on average.

[feral vale]

Plus the 3K bundle is better in the long run now.

[lapis pine]

Again, that’s not how chance works

[drowsy saddle]

Just like you need to flip 2*X coins to get X tails on average

[tardy fiber]

True, 9k paid in 2 months

[drowsy saddle]

Okay, let's start with simple statements.
Is that one true?
Do you need to flip 2*X coins to get X amount of tails on average?

Like in the example with 4 coin flips and 2 tails you provided earlier.

[drowsy saddle]

The question is for you if you're willing to discuss it.

[lapis pine]

Sorry I’m just checking I’m sure if what I’m saying before going ahead

I apologise if my own not understanding things has oversimplified the problem

[lapis pine]

Yes I believe so

[drowsy saddle]

Probability can be a different thing to understand and express sometimes, one of us could easily have made a mistake.

[lapis pine]

Yeah

[drowsy saddle]

So, the chance of getting a featured unit with 35 dailies at 2% rate is roughly 50%, calculated like 1 - (0.98)*35. Correct?

[lapis pine]

Yeah

[drowsy saddle]

So it has the same chance of occuring as getting a tails on a coin flip?

[timber wren]

Probability distribution of 50 dailies on a 2% banner

0 success = .364
1 success = .372
2 successes = .186
3 successes = .06
4 successes = .01

mean (average successes) in 50 dailies = 0 * 0.364 + 1 * 0.372 + 2 * 0.186 + 3 * 0.06 + 4 * 0.01 = 0.964 successes

[hard wave]

Is ss dawn still a good support tho?

[tardy fiber]

Just to rely on chances and not on guaranteed select or preparing a pity for the unit...it kinda feels like you didn't need the unit, might as well not grab the select offer or not even put any gems in the banner at all. After all, this thread believe in 100% getting the unit, thats why we endorsed pity. If you are not fine with the 5k select, can just grab 3k select next time it appears and hope that the unit you wanted is in it. Well if people are fine if the dailies didn't give the unit, might as well avoid dailies and use that gems to reach pity next time.

[timber wren]

so on average the 5k select is marginally more efficient than 50 dailies, but only barely

[drowsy saddle]

I think move level screws up the picture here, it shouldn't affect the average probability - you're looking for getting/not getting a unit in 50 dailies, not the number of times you get them.

[timber wren]

but also doesn’t take into account that there is a chance that you sacc a featured unit in the 25 pulls on the select too, so the math ends up more in the select’s favor but it’s still marginal

[drowsy saddle]

The probability of getting a unit (at least once) with 50 dailies is ~63% if I'm not mistaken: 1 - (0.98)^50

[timber wren]

which is the sum of the probability of getting 1 or more successes

1 - 0.364 ~ 64% chance of at least one success

the distribution i show there takes into account getting more than one success and shows on average how many successes you’d have in 50 dailies

[lapis pine]

From the math I’ve done in the past (which yours just now corroborates), you get about the same odds of getting a second featured using dailies as getting the random other fair in the 5k select. However personally id rather use those extra dailies on a banner I want rather than being from a random pool. Plus dailies give you more power up tickets

[drowsy saddle]

This one was left unanswered.

[hard wave]

I dont think even master fairs stay for 50 days

[tardy fiber]

Ash did i think

[drowsy saddle]

Some do, like SSRCynthia did

[lapis pine]

Yes, however it’s important to remember it’s the chance of getting it before this expected value is 50%

[hard wave]

Ye few exceptions but generally I dont think they do

[timber wren]

they generally don’t, in this exercise it’s assumed you’re pulling dailies on banners with featured units you want even across multiple banners

[hard wave]

So its prob better to save for the select scout

Ah

[tardy fiber]

Also if its MF, the calc is kinda different right? Because its 1% featured rate

[timber wren]

yes MF is much worse for dailies, but also there’s no MF select (yet)

[hard wave]

I mean masterfairs usually stay the longest

So if ur doing a pokefair u most likely wont get 50 dailies

Maybe ss diantha but idk abt others

[drowsy saddle]

Hm? How does that affect it?

If the probability of two events is the same, we can assign one event to another, create parallels.
To get an average of 1 tails, you need to flip 2 coins.
To get an average of 1 featured unit (35 dailies, 2% rate, etc), you need to pull on 2 banners.

[tardy fiber]

I wonder how much it will cost, but I'm pretty sure it will be too expensive to chase MF dupes...i rather buy coin bundle if needed than duping a MF through select ...anyway thank god, i didn't miss any MF faves

[timber wren]

i think the sticking point here is how you are understanding “average”, because having a 50% chance of success does not mean you succeed on average. it’s like, the absence of an average

[lapis pine]

The significance of dailies (and rng based pulls) rather than guaranteed pulls with 5k selects, is that for every person who gets a unit 1 daily before the expected value, there will be someone who gets it 1 daily after. Same with 2 dailies and so on. So over time you will save slightly more paid gems from dailies than 5k selects

Yeah I apologise rikko, I wasn’t correct in accepting the 50% thing as average

Which is why the 3.5k number got brought into things

I believe the actual expected value is around 4.5k like I said earlier

[timber wren]

but i show above in my distribution that on average 50 dailies will net you .96 successes, slightly less than 1.0 that a select would give

[lapis pine]

But the average is lower than 50 dailies

[tardy fiber]

Also one thing to consider, selects doesn't happen alot...it only happen on NY, half anni and anni, so does select still uses more paid gems than dailies?

[lapis pine]

In the same way that 15k free gems is the average for a 2% unit

[drowsy saddle]

Hm, how would increasing it to 45 would affect it? 50 dailies max out at 63%, 45 reach 60%. You're improving your chances, now you're getting the unit 6 times out of 10, but that's still not quite the average.

[lapis pine]

Which is lower than the 100% chance that pity gives us

[lapis pine]

I think I based the 4.5k number on the 15k free gems it takes on average for a pokefair

This has started a much longer and more complicated discussion than I anticipated haha

There’s every chance that I’m getting my probability wrong

[drowsy saddle]

Well, at least we got to the bottom of it)

[lapis pine]

But from my understanding dailies are still slightly more efficient when you consider the expected value

[sturdy flower]

I think only triple banners are worth to daily pull and only if you consider 2 of the 3 to be something you want

[timber wren]

i think the math shakes out pretty evenly between the two, but you can make the case that dailies are higher value since they’ll likely be on brand new units rather than older ones in selects

[lapis pine]

That’s essentially what I’m saying. Plus you get more power up tickets and Gen pool units from dailies

Plus they go towards scout points

[sturdy flower]

there's a not small chance you will lose the gamble though, so it will only work long term over several years

[timber wren]

that’s true but for older players who have most of the gen pool that doesn’t amount to much extra value

i have more and tickets than i know what to do with at this point

[lapis pine]

That’s also a good point

I should’ve been more clear that the difference between the two is pretty small

[timber wren]

with the EX bundle i end up getting more paids than i know what to do with since i don’t do dailies, so selects are the only good value outlet in my opinion

that’s a personal opinion obv

[lapis pine]

I do have to go now, sorry for making such a complicated discussion haha. And also not being more clear when starting

[timber wren]

no it was a very good discussion!

[keen nexus]

Happy New year Cami!

[timber wren]

happy new year holylight good to see you

[sand crown]

this rings very true for me as well. hell, even pulling for faves is harder to justify with that. There are only so many EX's and such that you need

[keen nexus]

As always good to see you too. It's almost new year for us so it's all good to stay awake longer.

[sand crown]

yes, MF gives more 5* but when you don't need any of them, it's just a minus

[sturdy flower]

till you really get into LG

[hard wave]

LG gets rlly boring fast imo

[timber wren]

that’s the other thing with dailies is there need to be enough banner units that i don’t like quite enough to commit nonpaid gems to

and i’m picky enough where there just aren’t that many units i’d even consider doing dailies on that i wouldn’t just want to commit to a pity for

[hard wave]

Also how long did it take yall to max ur 5 stars? I have 25 maxed, 26 below 3/5 (6 of them I dont own), and 14 that r 3/5 and 4/5

[sand crown]

I have yet to candy a limited to 5/5. The only one I have is N and that is because his banner was abnormally generous

[sturdy flower]

I'm not even sure but there are still 1/5 or missing

[hard wave]

Ssb for me but he doesnt hv an expansion yet

[sturdy flower]

I'm hoping to get more ssb from the free Kantrio rolls, but the chance is low

[tardy fiber]

The general pool 5*?

[sturdy flower]

just because I really like Blastoise

[rotund sleet]

isn't there a ticket for 1st anni units coming?

[sturdy flower]

for the same reason if Green comes with strike/tech Blastoise i will 5/5

[sturdy flower]

there is, but not a pick

[rotund sleet]

oh right, i thought that sounded a little weird

[maiden kayak]

the daily EX bundle is actually giving so much gems that u can actually afford to do dailies if limited selects appear every few months

[rotund sleet]

limited selects seem like they only happen like 3 times a year

[maiden kayak]

yea thats why

lol

[tardy fiber]

I got 54 5/5 general pool 5* that i keep getting

[timber wren]

personally i really disliked the daily disappointment

i know it pays off over time but the usual let down of dailies made me dislike playing the game

[sturdy flower]

or just save money and only spend from time to time because even f2p gem zenner has everything they want

[lapis pine]

Despite the previous convo. I actually want to stop doing dailies as much as I am. They’re very addictive imo and I don’t think they have good real money value

I’m going to limit myself to only buying the sync orb gem deal from now on

[maiden kayak]

yea i do get that, if it wasnt ||me getting quite a number of featured from dailies||, i would have felt the same way

[lapis pine]

For a few months I’ve been in the habit of doing usually one daily a day and that’s just a lot of money for a free gacha game so I’m going to stop that

[rare swan]

I've stopped doing dailies again

I was doing them for a while with Serena and Calem but honestly, they're just not worth it

[tardy fiber]

I feel it's bad during annisteven, annilillie, anniN first run

I was doing 4 dailies for a long time as ssleon banner also exist that time

Since then, never again unless I want to fill 4/400 pity points

[lapis pine]

Yeah, I won’t be buying the 5k selects or doing dailies, both are just too steep

[sturdy flower]

I only want Lucas, DGloria and Firis

if none of them are in a select it's a skip

[upbeat lotus]

well Lucas is in

DGloria is very likely

[sturdy flower]

very likely in the same one though

[tardy fiber]

I want ssleon/sskorrina/djgloria/sshilda/firis

Although the latter 2 might not be happening

[hard wave]

Ye

[tardy fiber]

Oh i got 54 5/5 general pool 5*

[hard wave]

Excluding maybe the sinnoh e4 and newer ones since they r pretty new

[hard wave]

Oh well still pretty close

I have 40 below 5/5

[tardy fiber]

Still got 0/5 hugh, colress, gordie, melony

[hard wave]

Out of the 6 newer ones I have gordie

Besides the other 5 I still dont have lana, but 7/15 of my alola pairs are 5/5

[tardy fiber]

I want melony the most out of them, seems like she can do interesting stuff with Mesprit

[sturdy flower]

a sleep chainer is a sleep chainer

and I'm getting 2 this month from eggs

[hard wave]

Same, idrk what colress does hugh and looker are just meh strikers I think

[sturdy flower]

Hugh is cool

[hard wave]

Courtney would be nice now that im close to maxing my ground gear and ss gio

[tardy fiber]

Colress seems like a good debuffer unit

[hard wave]

What does he debuff?

Hopefully sp def I dont think I have many of those

[sturdy flower]

i use Courtney and ss gio with ss Morty and the gauge is still unsatisfying

can't imagine picking up the new Ilsia for that reason

[tardy fiber]

Def, can cause paralyze also debuff accuracy...also have go viral 9

And ripple effect 9

[hard wave]

Oh ok

[sturdy flower]

can nuke too

[hard wave]

Hmm makes sense, but I think courtney has a 3 gauge move combined w gio’s 4 gauge which is prob why

[sturdy flower]

i spam her tms...

[hard wave]

Oh

[sturdy flower]

her speed is bad too

[deft glen]

I use this team for ground weak, they just don't survive gio first sync

they the enemies

[hard wave]

I dont hv ss morty atm, one day hopefully

Ig sonia would be good too

[deft glen]

I like SS Gio, but I only use him with SS Morty or SS Blue

[sturdy flower]

yeah, that's why I don't want units like him anymore, especially if they lack gmax too

[deft glen]

I used to use him with Cobalion lol

[sturdy flower]

i used him with redlax and just nuked with gmax

any of the 3 types

[hard wave]

I dont have cynthia or maxie so he’s my only ground option rn

[sturdy flower]

Naomi

[hard wave]

Tru but arent ground stages usually physical?

[sturdy flower]

there's only that Bertha one with wise entry on sides

[hard wave]

Aoe sync is nice as well and he covers 2 other types

O

[deft glen]

he's my best poison dps by far

but nuking with koga is fun

and I kinda like using poison stall

[sturdy flower]

double Crobat is quite fun

[tough oriole]

I find the idea of pulling someone for 3 types weird, when Poison and Steel are already pretty solid F2P types

[sturdy flower]

it was the child playing pokemon like kit

nostalgic

[hard wave]

I didnt pull him for poison and steel, I pulled cuz he looked nice and had no ground types

[deft glen]

I usually ran Koga with Tea Lillie and BP Erika and then nuke the sides first

[hard wave]

My only other options rn r un EXd bertha and naomi

[deft glen]

||I pulled him cuz at the beginning I pulled for almost everything||

[hard wave]

|| Same, I was lucky to get him and bede off of singles ||

I pulled for everything but he was kinda different since I did need him

[deft glen]

||I got 2 Gio in 1 multi, only time that happened||

Johto Trio taught me the value of having pity

SS Kris escaped me

[tough oriole]

Bertha + Naomi is a great combo, smh

[hard wave]

|| I got ss kris first multi but no ethan ||

[tardy fiber]

Naomi will be good for a long time, I don't any of my unreleased ground faves will surely have special ground damage

Well i guess, i can just use zerena but she is a dragon unit

[deft glen]

||I got Ethan early and Lyra at like 33k but Kris just turned my gems into multiple 3 star pu||

[sturdy flower]

spoiler everything rolling related

[summer goblet]

New Years Resolution for 2023

get to 500k gems by the end of Dec 2023

[tardy fiber]

Not sure if i will have ny resolution, but i just hope dena release dark / poison / fairy / electric / normal fave this year

With those, i will have any types covered

[summer goblet]

trust

[maiden kayak]

think this is very achievable for u

[summer goblet]

ye

we got like 300kish gems in 2022

so not too far off if I can stay discipline and only spend on favs/MF

[sturdy flower]

my goal is to have fun and carefully select truly fun units

[wind nymph]

skipping seasonals because they have typical sync animations

easiest decision in my LIFE

[drowsy saddle]

So have you gotten all non-generic sync seasonals already?

[wind nymph]

no...

[deft glen]

me too

[vale ivy]

Old seasonals have another issue to me tbh
They are quite old and have outdated kits, so kinda unfun
Just imo

[wind nymph]

but it's okay my criteria for pulling sync pairs is that they need to have unique sync animations, my favs, and then have some sort of future proof utility (zones,rebuff,etc)

||very likely i'll pull if it's a shiny, but im skipping ss diantha because i have SC hilda already and she eats||

[lean mango]

Gem count, 100k gems folks

[maiden kayak]

i think i might reach 500k

this month

[vernal glade]

Yoooo huge grats. I have a long way to go myself.

[tardy fiber]

Neat ||i only need to grab one select scout and can skip the other||

[vernal glade]

Yesterday was the final result:57k there’s a 100% chance I can reach to 100k in a few months.

[keen nexus]

I think yes can, as long you don't || pull for others this month ||.

[signal halo]

I might not reach 100k, but

I still got my biggest gem amount ever

[vernal glade]

Ya I’ll be at…. 89k this month.

[signal halo]

I'm currently at 90

If I skipped the whole month, would be at 120ish

[vernal glade]

So February will have to be the 100k mark

[wind nymph]

hi sorry did anyone happen to get a ss of the rewards for gems

[tardy fiber]

Which gems?

This for lottery

[wind nymph]

new years one not loterry

like how we got 3k gems today

23.6k gems extra extra pog

[little briar]

No Gloria on the select scouts so that means I can get away not spending anything ||unless I wanna pull for Raihan since I don't have him at all, but I'm debating it ||

[feral vale]

That’s lottery.

[lean mango]

I'm at a recovery arc now

Will probably skip the rest of this month if the next month does peak my interest

aka SS Lysandre

[vernal glade]

My hope is that a fave on my fave list doesn’t come next month, otherwise my saving will come to a halt.

[dusty oyster]

New bird dropped, and now I'm back

[lean mango]

Yoooo

[tawny cedar]

1 multi left to pity calem

Then i save for sssycamore or sslysandre

Is there atleast 6k gems left before 9/1/23?

[dusty oyster]

probably?

34k for the month, other than log in bouses not sure whether it's frontloaded or not

[lean mango]

It should be counted in the pins

[dusty oyster]

Could see when BV opens again, that always give a bunch of gems

Or you could check that, yeah

Much more reliable lmao

[tawny cedar]

Ok def gonna get calem

[gloomy holly]

Me too

[dusty oyster]

As am I

Saving for new birdmon, and whenever Anni Skyla and May rerun

[chrome nest]

The banner theme for Ny dawn and lisia hurts my soul

They seriously took out the New Years battle theme

[feral vale]

I THOUGHT IT SEEMED OFF

[chrome nest]

I have a bit of a problem dealing with fairy weak

And now that galar horse thing is here

But it isn’t a fav

Tho I should handle it no problem with off type anyways

[tardy fiber]

Its in the 📌

[tardy fiber]

Welcome back fletcha

[grand bramble]

Looks like... We will know the result in the next 2 weeks

[dusty oyster]

Hiya Vantner

[signal halo]

So, hypothetical question

Chasing for a spotlight fave through a banner becomes a pointless endeavor if I get the featured pair 1st multi, right?

Since I'm barely saving anything from chasing it

[drowsy saddle]

Depends on your gem count and how much you want Colress

[maiden kayak]

is today 5k gems?

[signal halo]

I'm currently at 89k. Colress is my biggest fave

[drowsy saddle]

So, is that situation just a theoretical one or is it happening right now?

[signal halo]

It just happened

I decided to pull

Got lucky

[drowsy saddle]

Aha. Alright, what is the next banner you were saving for?

[signal halo]

Honestly I was considering to go for the 17 on-type team thing

Before I fully commit to collecting pokefairs

I just got one of the exodia pieces

[drowsy saddle]

Ah yes, the famous 17 Exodia pieces
I'd just say wait for the next banner, one multi is a bit too far in this case.

[signal halo]

I say exodia mainly because there aren't so many types I feel uncomfortable with

Fairy used to be one

I'd say bug, poison, flying and ghost would be the worst offenders along with fairy (until now)

I recognize I might be a bit nitpicky, since my bug representative is alder

[drowsy saddle]

That is nitpicky. Slot a crit buffer and he's good to go

[signal halo]

I've had issues with him not killing fast enough and dying to the first sync often

Which made me grow to dislike him to some extent

But for the other types

Morty, Koga and darach aren't exactly the pinnacle of spotlight options

When stuff like Sydney exists

[tardy jolt]

Damn the second select is kinda trash, I hoped to see Glojo in it, guess we'll have to wait until 3.5 anni

[tardy fiber]

Same, i also skip one of the select

Well more gems for me

[dusty oyster]

Yeah, I picked up Emmet, but didn't want to spend 5k paid just for a move level for SS May

[tardy fiber]

Oh right fletcha, did you get lodge serena?

Fletchling is a birb

[dusty oyster]

I'm focusing it now

And Talonflame is my favorite mon

[maiden kayak]

oh u are back

||oriocorio is here||

[lapis pine]

Woahh it’s the bird guy

Hell yeah

[maiden kayak]

yea

[dusty oyster]

Yeah hi

[lapis pine]

I’m such a big fan

[maiden kayak]

wanting to ping him when ||the bird came||

[dusty oyster]

I got bored of the game a few months ago and up and left

But am now back playing casually

[maiden kayak]

so

||did u get the bird?||

[dusty oyster]

||Yep||

[tardy fiber]

Will you 5/5 Lysandre? Yveltal got 5/5 grid and its a birb

[maiden kayak]

||Nice||

[dusty oyster]

Aww thanks

Need to get even a single copy first

But downside up looks tempting

Tho my tech candies are being saved for whenever Anni Skyla reruns first

[lapis pine]

I love birds so I like the idea that another bird lover is doing a challenge like this

I’m rooting for ya

[gloomy holly]

Hmmmm, I'm so tempted to do a YOLO pull on Lisia

But I want Diantha too

[maiden kayak]

need a EX mammal only challenger

[tawny cedar]

Finally looked at the new ny units

Lisa has a really good outfit but I've gotta skip for kalos va part 2

Dawn i have mixed feelings

[gloomy holly]

I'm also using the length of SS Diantha's banner as an excuse to pull for Lisia

[maiden kayak]

well

best way is to not talk about it

[lapis pine]

Wait at least until you get diantha, then you can decide

No reason to split gems between banners

[dusty oyster]

Oh are you going after all the birdmon pairs as well?

[lapis pine]

Nono sorry I didn’t phrase that well

I’m not because that’s not really how I like to define favs

But I respect you for doing it

[dusty oyster]

Ah cool, just wondering

[tardy fiber]

85k gems left ||till ssdiantha ||

[lean mango]

As much as I want character to get an alt after waiting for some time, I hope not a bit cause gems low

[tardy fiber]

After i think a lot, i just gonna use my stacks of to 20/20 support bp and lodge units. As extra stats will be nice for a tanker.

[rare swan]

Thought I'd do a gem update since I've ended up on a v satisfying number

[lean mango]

[rare swan]

😌 i'm ready for Kalos VA

[lean mango]

SS Lysandre hype

[tardy fiber]

Will you ||spotlight tier pull Shauna?||

[lean mango]

Will do an official gem count after getting all the gems available

Why does 64k seem so little

[drowsy saddle]

740

[tardy fiber]

Don't worry mine will ||probably go down like yours on the 12th ||

85k currently

[sturdy flower]

so kantrio tickets are just junk, good to know

[tardy fiber]

Yep got all 3* on mine

[lean mango]

At least it's towards something that is seen as worth

also Lisia hit me with that shaft

[sturdy flower]

they are 0.174% , I'm not stupid

[tardy fiber]

Would love to get ssred and ssleaf for that 10 gems from sync pair story

[lean mango]

Would be nice to get SS Leaf

[dusty oyster]

My biggest hope for Kalos VA is a Malva Talonflame pair

[sturdy flower]

with these rates you are more likely to get something on x25 scout

[dusty oyster]

Otherwise saving unless a shiny Yveltal appears or something

[sturdy flower]

and that's already almost impossible

[lean mango]

Shiny Yveltal

[rare swan]

Yes!

[tardy fiber]

Shiny Yveltal sycamore would be sick

[chrome nest]

Shiny xerneas lysandre in that case

[gloomy holly]

Volcanion?

Who'll have Volcanion?

[tardy fiber]

I guess i will support DeNa like usual every VA...grab stamina with 100 paid gems deal before reset and after reset. To get Sycamore day 1

[chrome nest]

Calem

Or Serena

[drowsy saddle]

Silly, it's another Serena alt.

[chrome nest]

Hell give both of them volcanion

[lean mango]

Lysandre with either Volcanion or Magearna

[rare swan]

my hopium is Sycamore/Magearna and Lysandre/Volcanion

[lean mango]

Magearna would be funny

[rare swan]

but we shall see.....

[gloomy holly]

It's either Lillie or someone else who'll have Magearna

SS Lillie to be precise

[lean mango]

No more Lillies

[tardy fiber]

Gladion Magearna

[chrome nest]

You mean Lusamine

[gloomy holly]

What will be the name?

[dusty oyster]

Lillie would actually make at least some sense considering the anime

[gloomy holly]

6th Lillie alt tho

[dusty oyster]

That makes sense too, unfortunately lmao

from a business perspective

[tardy fiber]

Gonna be ssselene, sselio, ssgladion and sslillie with 4 tapus for alola VA

[rare swan]

there is no way that Lillie is not getting an SS in the Alola VA, lmfao

she was literally 50% of Alola's pairs last year

[gloomy holly]

Wanna bet?

[rare swan]

and technically, we could get two Magearnas if they want to do a nod to the anime - Lillie's Magearna is shiny

[rare swan]

not really, I know I'm right

so Lillie will likely get shiny Magearna

[gloomy holly]

We shall see in a few months, prolly in March or April

[tardy jolt]

I’d like to see Sycamore with shiny Charizard Y, personally. Maybe a support? (Hopium for fire zone, lol)

[maiden kayak]

shelly with water rebuff please

[tardy fiber]

I like rebuff, if DeNa release zone to a non fave unit. I can hopium for the type rebuff will go to a fave

[tawny cedar]

How long does it take for a mf to rerun?

[reef river]

Id say it takes anywhere between "lol" and "lmao"

||1.5 years minimum, at least with the few examples we have so far||

[tawny cedar]

So i gotta wait 1.5 years for diantha rerun

A small price to pay for sslysandre and hoopa unbound/sssycamore and garchamp or magearba

[deft glen]

there is no Diantha mf

The new one is PokeFair

[upbeat lotus]

I think the time for MF rerun doesnt have any pattern

[tawny cedar]

Oh

[upbeat lotus]

Maxie and Archie got rerun because Hoenn VA

[tawny cedar]

Id still skip

What if they dual release Sygna suits for sycamore and Lysandre

[reef river]

Pokefairs usually rerun before a full year

[ashen thunder]

Diantha banner stays till March anyways

You'll see half anni info before she leaves as well

If lucky

[tawny cedar]

Don't really care for half anni unless we get lance alt/johto mf/kalos mf

[vestal leaf]

She'll be there after next datamine anyway

If P2 sucks you can still go for her

[tawny cedar]

Part 2 can't suck if they release sycamore or lysandre

They have to

They alr used up calem,serena and diantha

Part has to have Lysandre at minimum considering he showed during the champion event

[rare swan]

he's on the title screen so it would certainly be nice

[dusty oyster]

Trying to think, the 2.5 anni pairs haven’t rerun yet right?

[rare swan]

nope

and i doubt we'll see them in Feb/Mar

[vestal leaf]

Lys is guaranteed

[dusty oyster]

Why’s that?

[vestal leaf]

We'll see about syca

[rare swan]

Nothing is guaranteed, just likely

[maiden kayak]

if anything

i think ss sycamore might come next month

[rare swan]

considering Maxie, Archie and Ghetsis got zilch, I'm going to remain....cautious

[maiden kayak]

hes the last popular male unit to not have alt

[rare swan]

I definitely believe both Sycamore and Lysandre have a good chance of getting SSs next month

[maiden kayak]

same for flannery

[rare swan]

but I'm going to try and stay grounded so if they don't, I'm not cripplingly disappointed lmfao

but yeah, Sycamore is very popular and it would feel. Odd, if he copped a shaft in the VA

[vestal leaf]

I heavily doubt they'd drop lys' face like that

Without the classic art twist

In the menu art

[rare swan]

I would have said the same if they hadn't had Ghetsis on the UnoVA art

where he didn't change at all

[tardy jolt]

UnoVA is the most disappointing arc to date

[vestal leaf]

Yeah but tbf we got n changing instead

Here we only have

Shauna

Who doesn't get an alt?

In the art

And i doubt

Lol

[tawny cedar]

Alright after i dump 2 multis on calem i save for feb

Where we'll probably get not Lysandre or sycamore but a new serena alt instead.

[tardy jolt]

Yeah, tbh I’d expect another spotlight in February (Malva would be nice, but since she’s already an NPC, maybe they’d release Drasna?) and a couple of PFs, so with the Palentines pairs we’d have 5 new banners like for UnoVA

[maiden kayak]

who says npc cant be scout lol

corless is one example of it

[tawny cedar]

Emma and malva are the only spotlights I'll use gems on

[maiden kayak]

….

[rare swan]

okay you make a fair point

i didn't consider that

[tawny cedar]

I like them A LOT okay?

Especially emma

Malva is maybe I could cope with skipping but Emma is a must

[sturdy flower]

I will skip them all, to be the very best

MF Ghetsis is my quest

[maiden kayak]

u have been saying stuff like this every month

[tawny cedar]

N gets a 2nd mf

[deft glen]

for me that would only apply to Irida

other than that, spotlight = always skip

[tawny cedar]

I played the whole of kalos so this not fomo for emma

She isn't even in the game

Except for npc

[maiden kayak]

still sus

i dont believe

not that it matters

[rare swan]

I will ||be summoning on Shauna and Malva as well, if she drops||

I firmly believe a fave is worth it, even if they are a spotlight

[vestal leaf]

I'd still rather pity that spotlight from the next limited fave's banner that goes decently

Than scouting the spotlight banner itself

But it's me

You have enough gems

[rare swan]

the thing is, as the spotlight pool gets more bloated, your chances of naturally pulling that unit drop

[vestal leaf]

Anyway

[rare swan]

if they're a big fave, to me it's worth the spotlight pull

but if they're just a 'eh i like them' fave, i would defs wait to pull naturally yeah

[vestal leaf]

Yeah, that's why I'd rather invest extra 9k on an already done limited banner than go blind in a spotlight one

But again

You saved for ages

[rare swan]

each to the own, etc

[vestal leaf]

So you have the right to choose

[rare swan]

but yes i have been saving, admittedly

[vestal leaf]

If chest came here

And said he's scouting a spotlight

Who would have the courage to lecture him

[maiden kayak]

Malva is close to paid gem banner

but plum and shelly

[maiden kayak]

thats solely because kalos pool tix update

[rare swan]

if you've been hoarding your Kalos tix it's worth waiting

but that pool won't be updated until 4th anni.....

i can't wait that long

[vestal leaf]

I've been hoarding all tickets

Aside Sinnoh's

[wind nymph]

should I start hoarding all my gems till the 4th anniversary for good pairs that will come

[deft glen]

that exclamation mark bothers me too much

[wind nymph]

like ash, red Pikachu and many good legendary Pokemon

[vestal leaf]

not that worth tbh

saving is good

but only for specific pairs

saving for meta is kinda nonsense

[wind nymph]

i need both Pikachu and good legendary broken pairs

[vestal leaf]

why tho

[ashen thunder]

Saving for meta is fine if you do dumb restrictions
Like "I won't roll anything that isnt better than rats"

Easiest way to save

[gloomy holly]

Depends

[wind nymph]

because i am not seeing good pairs now like they are as a new players means 20 days old, currently what they offers not that good in my account because i don't have pairing support like they needs

[ashen thunder]

almost 2 years without rerun

[vestal leaf]

there's anni lillie and anni N currently running

they're extremely solid pairs

the two rats are two of the most braindead units in the game, so ofc there's not many other units on the same level

but tbh they're so overkill

it doesn't even mtter

[gloomy holly]

The fact that they can off-region EBs says alot

[vestal leaf]

why use ash when i can clear with a bp pair almost as easily

in csmm

and anyway

those 3 might not rerun for another 12 months

or more

[gloomy holly]

Actually, they off-regioned all EBs that came after their release

[wind nymph]

but when i try csmm all my pairs koed like they are nothing

[vestal leaf]

that's most likely just a matter of game knowledge

and investment in pairs

and synergy knowledge

[violet nebula]

72k for 2 pities

[vestal leaf]

also

[violet nebula]

Come on VA part 2

[vestal leaf]

getting one of the rats

will give you one LA or csmm clear

one

out of multiple

it won't solve your issue

[wind nymph]

where i can get synergy details who should I use with who

[violet nebula]

It depends who use the rat on

[vestal leaf]

#1009553004350931054

[violet nebula]

Pm general questions

[ashen thunder]

I mean even for offregion ebe

Not like Ash does spectacular without SSTred

[vestal leaf]

^

this too

[ashen thunder]

SSTred can do all the ebes as solo dps

[vestal leaf]

ash is severly overrated

[ashen thunder]

Ash can't

[vestal leaf]

red is the real braindead carry

[violet nebula]

He can do 1 or 2😆

[ashen thunder]

Ash can do the current 3

But

So can cerena

And lucas almost did it, I just hate fishing potion MPR

Red is the brain-dead unit

Not ash

[wind nymph]

As I have seen some videos ash can kill anyone in front of him with a few moves

[ashen thunder]

If ash can kill smth himself, it means a lot of units can

You'll understand once you expand knowledge big enuff

It took me 20+ attempts to pull off Lear ebe offregion with ash as solo dps
While SSTred took it down in first attempt

And cerena took 11

It's clear which rat is dumb broken

[wind nymph]

sst red and Pikachu right

[ashen thunder]

Yes

Well

The point being

You can already see Dena dropping back to back broken units

So chasing meta is meme

Eventually the future units will catch up to rats anyways

[vestal leaf]

especially support, who can carry f2p units to win anyway

going for meta dps is the worst way to invest gems

[wind nymph]

broken units are not able to understand who I should go to, will u suggest to me 3 broken units? I will invest them and after that i will follow my favourite

Is Cynthia good in this game, or should i try and go for a different pair?

[ashen thunder]

If you like cynthia go for her

[wind nymph]

as per current offering and for this month offering

as i like all pairs no matter who I use i love all the Pokemon I just need a few broken pairs

[ashen thunder]

Why do you need broken pair

The contents are scaled with units like hau as a workable dps

[wind nymph]

for all events all the missions offtype are everywhere use, without thinking for class weak

☺️

[ashen thunder]

Well if you want to turn off brain , the only unit for it is SSTred

And clearly hes not available

[wind nymph]

😱😭😱😭

[vestal leaf]

anni N is extremely good, as he ignores most stage gimmicks, can debuff, nuke, his aoe dps is amazing, can work with an accessible environmental multiplier (sun)

but he's not an autowin

ofc

of the currently running pairs he's imo the best one for new players

but #archive-pm-help-and-resources might help more

[cunning swan]

Starting off the year strong!

I'm zenning for the whole month

[cunning swan]

He's almost guaranteed autowin for most LA stages, I find

[vestal leaf]

ye

he's my auto LG farmer

[maiden kayak]

nice

that will hit 100k

[cunning swan]

Gonna reach 6 figures for the first time lfgggg

[ashen thunder]

I had to hit 5 pities last year alone ||and I'll likely hit 6th pity on ccalem banner|| good thing I somewhat zenned else I'd had been punished hard

Hopefully this year is good and not many favs drop

Coz I want to roll some reruns

[glass abyss]

I did a whoopsie and ||spent 9k on NY Lisia for some reason||

I was half asleep when it happened

[unborn pier]

||What was the result||

[glass abyss]

Going to probably not play this game when I am not fully cognizant

[glass abyss]

||Nothing||

As it should be

[south scroll]

I'm hoping for faves this year, I've saved a lot and I'm in a place where I can spend comfortably without dropping below my goal

So I want to see the fruits of my efforts in all the faves I'll get

[glass abyss]

Valid

[little briar]

Same here and crossed fingers your faves come up

[south scroll]

Thanks, same to you!

[little briar]

Yeah I am just begging for a Dojo Gloria rerun or for the Alola VA to treat me nicely

[sand crown]

DJ Glo not being in the select took a lot of wind out of my sails

But always thankful for more gems. Should be where I want to be by half anni

[little briar]

Pretty much my thought process for the rest of the month going into the Kalos VA stuff since i don't super care about it

[livid orbit]

So how much does NY Lisia bring to the table? I personally wanna use her to complement SS Wally, but I don't know how crazy good or forgettable she will be.

I basically have around 35k gems, but I don't know what the Part 2 of Kalos VA will bring

[sly breach]

I think am gonna need dena to hide the sync pair scout button at this rate

Meanwhile lisia banner one try was a bust

[violet nebula]

Wait until VA part 2

If you have diantha, Valerie, Mina etc you are good for fairy

[livid orbit]

Well crud. Lisia goes away before the VA Part 2 datamine

[feral vale]

Valerie isn’t good tbh, Mina would work tho

[feral vale]

Yeah she does.

[wind nymph]

Valerie shouldve been a tech

[wind nymph]

That wouldve given her more possibilities but no

Shes just bad

[livid orbit]

But Valerie is a great support

Emotional support

[feral vale]

[wind nymph]

Shes a special striker

With support moves

[sly breach]

I find it funny that i did not pull wally(ss) and now i am afraid that if i pull lisia am going to def go to pity

I need to hold gems incase serena and zygard get a re run

[violet nebula]

I was fortunate with pulls on the new pairs to test luck

[vernal glade]

I think I might save for SS Cyrus, unless a Dark Zone general comes before his rerun.

[violet nebula]

Highly unlikely

[vernal glade]

Ya.

[vestal leaf]

calem is running rn

and that's it

[vernal glade]

Ya but I don’t know how to activate his dark zone if I do get him

[tardy jolt]

Calem is kinda clunky to reliably set dark zone, you may need multiple turns to set him up (TM, plus multiple rounds of attacks and buddy move), I’d say unless you’ve CSerena, don’t bother

[vernal glade]

Ya I’m not wasting my gems on him

[tardy jolt]

Personally I find that the dark combination is just there for coverage in a pinch, water is infinitely better and it’s not like water teams really need them anyway

[feral vale]

He’s not that clunky.

If at all.

[vestal leaf]

^

[feral vale]

Just the one move changes type, then when B Move unlocks after 5 hits, you can use it.

[vestal leaf]

he's synergetic to all phys dark types

you TM

brutal wing

brutal swing

sync

dark zone

at worst

[feral vale]

Easy

He sets up so fast for me.

[vestal leaf]

you can even buddy/zone presync

if you attack with the other 2 units

[feral vale]

@tardy jolt Do you even have C Calem?

[tardy jolt]

I’ve both Calem and Serena 3/5

[feral vale]

If you think he’s clunky, you might be doing something wrong, cause he’s pretty fast.

I’ve delayed it accidentally before, but that’s just on me.

Also Serena has a similar gimmick to C Calem.

And yet you don’t complain about her.

[feral vale]

Need help on how? It’s pretty easy.

[vernal glade]

Im fine.

[tardy jolt]

Team is SC Diantha, CSerena and CCalem, first turn you use the TMs, then either you go for Water Shuriken or Brutal Swing, so let’s say you go for water Shuriken to speed up the countdown, you go Aura Sphere, Water Shuriken, Water Shuriken, if you’ve the tile that let’s you hit at minimum 3 times, you may look at the activation condition of your buddy moves being fulfilled on turn 3, you’ll need to waste a turn to switch to dark and then use your buddy moves for rebuff and dark zone. To me it’s kinda clunky, also rng factors in, but I much prefer the water version of them to the dark one. Question of preference, I guess. Also, saying they’re clunky doesn’t mean that they’re bad, just that I wouldn’t prioritize Calem as a dark zone setter

[stone cloud]

Hello everyone, I had pulled for CSerena, and now I wanted to save my gems, but I couldnt resist the temptation of trying for Dawn today knowing full well that I dont even have enough gems to pity and will never get to pity for her, and thus lost 6000 gems atm that I got today + a small previous saving of gems. Now I just have a bad feeling, like a regret feeling, and I dont know how I can stop myself from spending more gems for her, because I really like Dawn's new alt😅 what should I do?

[feral vale]

Why…are you using SC Diantha on that team?

[feral vale]

Do you like Dawn in general?

Like as a fav?

[stone cloud]

I do, I have all her alts besides the current released one

[feral vale]

You said you used 6000, what’s your gem count now?

[stone cloud]

I have around 1800 or something, so I am most likely not going to reach max scout points for her

[feral vale]

So here’s my thinking from this.

First of all, don’t beat yourself up, just save your gems.

[stone cloud]

CSerena drained me until pity, so I wanted to save, but also couldnt resist to pull for her😅

[feral vale]

Secondly, she will show up again, probably in a select.

I’ve had a few favs I messed up on and I’m trying to make up for it.

One I just got today.

[stone cloud]

So I should just skip this banner from now on and focus on trying to at least get 36.6k gems

[feral vale]

So give yourself the motivation that she will be back and you can prepare yourself for the return.

[feral vale]

Yep! And note selects use paid gems. For non paid, it will be next year.

[stone cloud]

Oh okay, and I have actually a problem in which there is not really a fave list that I made. Almost all releasing characters are like a fave for me, so I get the urge to spend on all of them, but for example Dawn or Lillie etc are above the "normal" faves of mine😅 so I dont know what to save for with my gems

[feral vale]

Make a list so you have a foundation and you tell yourself “Oh I actually like this one more than others, maybe I should wait for a alt of this.”

[stone cloud]

Oh alright then, I should really make a proper list so that I can remind myself that I should not be spending gems randomly on all characters that are releasing😄 thanks a lot for the advice😁

[drowsy saddle]

Write down a list then. Short one, 5-7 names.

[stone cloud]

Yeah I will do that soon, hopefully I can just resist the temptation for pulling😅

[feral vale]

Oh and ones that aren’t in Masters can be included.

Just in case you had one outside of this game.

[stone cloud]

Oh yeah true, hopefully this list will help me have more patience😁

[feral vale]

[stone cloud]

Thanks for the help everyone😁

[tardy jolt]

Could be any other unit, just to debuff faster for power play and for the passives bonus, anyway it’s just an example of a 1 turn spam unit. It could be Cyrus to set dark zone more easily and then for sure it’s not clunky

Maybe Glojo would be nice as well? I still need to get her, unfortunately she wasn’t in the selects this time around

[feral vale]

For a third teammate, I recommend these:
Nessa, Sidney, Masked Royal, Glojo is fine too, don’t have as much experience with her tho

But you can duo with C Serena and C Calem too.

[tardy jolt]

For sure, Glojo is a unit that I think would speed up the buddy moves in general, but yeah, I guess I’ll have to see if she’ll be available for selects at 3.5

She’s in my list of selects alongside HJasmine and SS Wally as a luxury unit that would be nice but that I skipped since she’s not a super fave nor a 10/10 (which is my criterium to pull for meta pairs)

[tardy fiber]

Glojo for water frog team, and masked royal/sidney for dark frog team

Oh right sscyrus dark void also count as 3 hits iirc

[tardy jolt]

Unfortunately it’s just minus 1 for the b move countdown

[lament hornet]

ok gotta take gem zen seriously this year

time to admit i have a problem and work on fixing it

[feral vale]

You got this!

[signal halo]

I come with questions about non-gem resources

is there a best use for the coveted gold candy?

[feral vale]

Why not ask in #poma-questions or #916852389347196958 ?

[signal halo]

I was wondering where to ask because it's a resource

mainly the golden move candy

I have one sitting there

but I'm afraid to give it

because it takes eons to get one

[white sparrow]

we got em boys

past 10k

[signal halo]

so I was wondering if there is an agreed upon best use for it

[tardy jolt]

Based on the units you have, I’d say just use it for the type in which you have the highest number of pairs that you want to raise to 3/5, generally techs are what I go for, but that’s just me

[drowsy saddle]

Well, what's the point of getting it if you're afraid to use it?
Usually people say "I have 13 techs I need to candy, generic candy goes to a tech" or something

[signal halo]

so I'd likely be torn between strikers and supports

supports because I feel like they get candies at a slower pace

strikers because I have a bit too many

not techs because my techs are busted at 1/5

[sand crown]

I simply think of golds as tech candies at this point, makes it easier to spend

[feral vale]

My gold candies always went towards a Support because I have so many I want to raise.

And that was my meta before favs.

[white sparrow]

wth are candies and how do i get them

[feral vale]

#1012256199128915968 Candy coin count for the month.

[drowsy saddle]

[sand crown]

completing events, BP points, Villa, Champion Stadium, Lodge login bonus

[feral vale]

You get 20 coins to exchange to one candy.

[sand crown]

Yeah I should specify it's coins that you put towards cashing one in. They raise a sync move pair level

[feral vale]

My explanation is not any better you’re fine

[sand crown]

lold remember when we got the candy itself as a bonus...

[tardy jolt]

A lot of strikers are fine at 1/5, you may want to consult the candy guide to see if that’s the case for the units that you want to candy. Personally I’d say that if you’re not looking to 3/5 units to fulfill a personal goal, doing so should be done taking into consideration what unit will benefit your team the most. In your situation maybe supports would be more beneficial, just because they fit on more teams in general

[drowsy saddle]

You two completed each others explanations, you're fine.

[signal halo]

where do I find the candy tier list again?

[tardy jolt]

Guides and info

[feral vale]

+candy in #bot-zone

[jade lava]

—————————————————-
Who to Candy List - #1010259551225921626

- Order inside the tiers take in account how good and how much units gain from grid.
Last Updated: December 28th 2022
https://i.imgur.com/rEjzPvR.jpg

[signal halo]

I don't have many limited supports and the one candy I have would be for a luxury (maxing a fave out who runs at like 95% of it's power without it)

[feral vale]

OOPS

[signal halo]

oops

[feral vale]

NOT AGAIN

[lament hornet]

i'm going to try this plan and see if it works:

• if there's even a single thing that acts against my desire to pull for a unit, i ain't pulling. Example - Anni Steven (ofc last time i didn't listen to myself, so it's for the future) - I have two good flying attackers and hoenn mfs, the only real aspect of Steven's kit is physical flying attacker but even that's dicey. Favs are exempt from this rule
• gonna try to pick maximum 1 unit per month. If i happen to just get that unit in 1 multi or paid dailies, i can go for 2nd thing, but that's the only time that's happening. Up to 2 units where i do 100 paid daily too.
• my spending should be limited to the 20 day stuff until i get a job, when that happens (hopefully this year ) i'm allowed only one big package (like the MF one), exceptions being sale like the anni one
• gonna try my best to only pull when i know what is going to be next month
  if there's any more rules i should enforce on myself i welcome suggestions

[feral vale]

I never asked ya, do you have favs?

[lament hornet]

i have a bunch yes

but it's honestly not a lot

[feral vale]

Have you made a list?

[signal halo]

I guess that's good in this game

[little briar]

That'll help narrow things down to make a list of faves you know you want/will go for

[white sparrow]

I don't have many favourites

[signal halo]

having fewer released favs

[lament hornet]

when i see the tierlist maker stuff i tend to add more than i should lmfao