#Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)
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That’s why I save for my Fave trainer and my fave pokemons than just pulling on some random master fair and pokefair banner
🎉
the day dena released a tier 0 DD (SS Steven) and less than a month powercreep him (Ash & SST Red) i stopped caring about pairs just for meta reasons
Finally decided to tackle some Legendary Arena battles and I hit over 50k gems, woo
There's some I still can't do yet but I'm at least getting the normal mode ones out of the way
#1009562367803261078 if you need some help with clears
This channel would be so good for me but I'm so bad with shit like this that I sort of just ignore all advice and go "but maybe I'm just one scout away..."
Hope you never try real life gambling
Because "I'm one ticket away from jackpot" would ruin your life
How is everyone’s goals going? 
87k gems today 
NICE 
last stretch is not to fall to the frogs and get that 100k, the final test
Yeah the closest point is always hard.
Eyyy nice :D
hope everyone else also getting started well for this new year!
lots to come probably
never too late to start saving
For sure! I ended up with a pity and now I’ve gotten back to where I was before.
Just takes time 

When is half anni?
Oh yeah I forgot
i'll see/ask what's up
Thanks! 
How many pities would be advisable to save for half anni? 3?
If I'm specifically waiting for it

Gonna expect 2.5 trio to rerun in April/june at this rate ngl
Would be nice since it’ll be hard to go for them and the new ones
Oops miscounted when NY Lisia is coming so I'll just be reaching 100k
Since rallies won't count for the overall gem amount for january
Will there be any rally coming up in the following days/month?
I think if I fully control myself, I could achieve 4 to 5 pities by half anni
VAs usually have a twitter rally so probably
nice
It could be next month since the va is over 2 months tho
Not a big deal in the gem count regard
I think I came to terms with which banners I'm going to pull/skip
And how I'm going to approach those
54.5k
That's the most I've had
That’s pretty good!
don’t forget to do battle villa, we have a day left
I did mine a while ago 
I think I have like 10 stages left in the Villa so I may not be able to do it
Need help with teams? You can ask in the Battle Villa channel.
There’s good ones that can clear the stages without a full recovery.
#1009564564821639379 pins
Gonna have to remember this next time, thank you
I have 9 stages left and I have no recovery / units left since I bum rushed everything else
So we'll see if this helps tomorrow
Arena wise, I just need to finish Cressalia and Uxie and I'm all done with that
You should be fine: just quit the stage and re-try it if a unit dies. Or ask what are you doing wrong if that situation repeats.
Sycamore/Cyrus/potion unit should have no problem with it. And you have six more potential spots for potion units.
Alright, I'll give it a shot tomorrow with them
I'm still sorta new-ish in some aspects so I did not realize how unkillable Xerneas is until slapping him into my Arena teams and how good the sync is
Hot take: the extra rewards for summoning master fairs are a scam
This is the exact same guy that yolo’d on 3 master fairs and failed
Doesn't feel like a hot take 
I used to pull for coins on 3 MF banners, but then i realised...thats 15k gems wasted that almost halfway for a pity, then i never do it again
Wait 3 banners are 45k
Yep i just wasted a pity
Also I don’t think I’m the only one who says this but if I have 1/3 or 2/3 of the Anni units for that specific time I need to have the other, I think my brain hurts or it’s just fomo
Well, some people do like to collect stuff. The question is: what's your goal in this game? Completing released sets or getting specific units?
Doing my best to save gems and get what I like
I skipped anni units if they are not a fave, skipped anniraihan, ssacynthia, sstred, ash
So you don't care about those last anni units? Yeah, that's FOMO. Imagine getting a fave and saying "Here go two more pities for random pairs"
Yeah I think I need more self control
Then again I have green rayquaza as a substitute for Anni Steven
gacha disease
get well soon
We need Nurse Joy to cure us 
But man, i didn't expect people to be attracted to annisteven without faves factor...i thought he is not even meta
I wonder if he can gain lots of sales later
Ooh, Dr Ralsei
There’s always Steven simps tbh
Yep but palki doesn't get tempted by faves reason, just want to complete trio collection
Not even meta reason as well like he can remove weather
His attack sucks

And I’ve only completed trios if I like all three.
Which the Johtrio and 3rd Anni trio are.
Same, like half anni trio, i only collected 2 because raihan is not fave...so i wonder why people get tempted so much
Need that 3* flying gear copium 
My 150 annisteven only have 306 atk, that gear can help a bunch
Yep but she's better for dragon damage, well i guess annisteven can still help for flying physical damage...as lysandre/ssethan/anniskyla are all special damage
Zinnia’s Dragon Ascent is Flying……
Did you not know that?
LMAO ANNI STEVEN’S ATTACK IS 254
Probably yours, not my annisteven 
Still good though to clear flying weak as he doesn't need sync to access...unless you using aerial ace zinnia 
||He’s EX’d||, but still doesn’t match Zinnia lmao
Does he reach 1k with that grid 
More because i use anniskyla 
He is my go to for flying weak wisex2, ssethan for sentryx2
But man, i still missing few physical / special coverage for my faves...well at least Giovanni psystrike can help me if psychic weak wisex2 appears
He can still off type 2k points 
Hopefully his pb and ex reruns before we get that
Maybe a psychic phys striker with psychic fangs or smth
Thank you DeNa for Gio
I try sssteven zen headbutt but its not working

It only flinches, never kills...good guy sssteven
Psystrike ftw
Psychic weak stage with wise entry x2 when

Giovani can beat ghost week lucian pre sync with an F2P and shadow ball I think he should be fine for a sentry entry psychic stage
Yep gonna use him for wise entryx2
I got too many psychic that can clear sentryx2
Psystrike is the best
zen headbutt deoxys
Doesn't work
better i use tate
Oh right, psychic terrain gladion 
That will boost his physical sync
Incase anyone has master fairs, do any of you ever take advantage of the master passive ability?
I don’t because I believe it’s a waste of effort
If you beat the stage without a full master passive effect than what’s the point of maxing it out
Master passives, just like theme skills, should not be your main focus while teambuilding.
If you need a unit that buffs attack and you have an on-region unit that does it - great! If you don't, do not force it.
Depends if its a regional content like daily bp region battle
Yes lel
Also of i only consider to max if its type teamworks master passive, the region is only good for region buff contents. For example, my water faves...only got 3 currently but sskris from Johto, archie from hoenn, djgloria from galar...i use them together for water weak, so my region passives are not even maxed out
Team synergy > maxing region master passives
Damn 31k this month
So I'll save 25k this month
So i will guarantee a unit in kalos va part 2
Wait i just saw the new year login like info in game and it says up to 60k gems but gem count from datamine says 31k, why the discrepancy?
its just givaway
only the winners wins
so its not guarantee at all
Oh right i remember that stuff when i had my old account i got 500 gems
You probably skimmed that news ^^;;;;;;
Oh well no point in dreaming of pulling N then
it should be enough to pity 1 by the end of the month
So do the 60k lottery affect overall gems count?
Am saving for ss lusamine, and i really think serena zyguard will re run so i need all the pity i can get
No, it’s just for the winner.
too much money is never a good thing
you don't know that
*300
getting 300 gems is like winning lottery tho
nah its for everyone who participated
At least on January 1st the reward still abundant
ye
I hope I get something from the giveaway
free gems are always good
Same tbh
whether its 300 or 60k gems
I always dream big you know
Wish discord has feature to block you from visit gatcha and flex so i wont have to witness 60k give aways

you can mute the channel
And hide it
just be strong and don't look
my hand still find it way
not that it applies to me or anything

But to be real if 60000 gems happen it will end my journey to hunt rerun seasonal tho
Time to 
If I do win the 60k gem, i will be closer to Chest's first recorded gem milestone than ever before
before, it was a distant dream unobtainable by just anyone
but now, its seem like a possibility
with 60k gems i can secure 2 pities 
goodluck tho...
let's all dream big
i have like 399k gems in total so will be a good fast-track to half a mil gem count
the chance to get more than 3000 gems look bad tho even when you dont count the chance to win 300 gems
hopefully
I will say tho if I do get a good chunk that'll change my mind on rolling anni steven
Second prize is 12k tho so shouldnt let that change your saving mentality
is it
Honestly even just the 300 gems should let you stick to your saving mentality.
I dont remember what it was last year but is it worse this year
Do i miss any holiday or any important event?
Half anniv?
Wait anniraihan on December? He was a half anniv unit
March
He is seasonal + 2th anni so i expect he will comeback like Lilie,N,Steven
So it wont be sstred and ssacynthia will be the one that reruns in this time period instead?
march will have new pair tho
I dont think they will rerun past anni pair on anni day it will cause confusion
I doubt they will.
Beside SS Serena also 2.5 anni i guess
It will come when it comes
Yes 
Only festive seasonals have high chance to rerun on same period
Even the spring units still rerun during spring although it changes to sc this year
I didnt predict 2.5 annj rerun on half anni tho... I predict they will rerun in December tho 
Well hope that you didn't depend on your predictions so much as it is kinda uncharted waters for some of those units rerun period, so still do your savings accordingly... didn't want like you thought they will come in December and poof it comes on May/October and you didn't have gems that time
not much a problem the only thing i want from raihan is flygon and sandstorm for cynthia... That why i put color orange on that month to indicate that it is not compulsory
Yep at least palbea/palmarnie/summermarnie are guaranteed to rerun during that period
Although it will be in that super seasonal banner scout rerun with bunch others
Well got pity, no problem 
Yeah luckily this month have good enough so i can pity pal marnie
if i dont have good luck i will move Pal Bea to selected scout
Hopefully you have good luck, only 4 units will be in it 
all 4 is wanted so it is actually 2% banner for me
Neat 
Cannot wait for select scout, and i gonna hopium for lottery gems so that i can recoup select scout costs 
you go for ||SS Bredan||?
Nah from the revealed pic, i might get one of them for sskorrina dupe...the other one will need to have either ssleon/sshilda/djgloria for me to get...if not, skip 
10k paid gems tho
I won't chase 5/5 grids so i didn't have any pressure for N/Lysandre dupes
Yeap same like what i spend last January to 3/5 my Lysandre and get my first N
Dont think you should do that now since new survey, people will complain about it... Dena might do something soon i guess
Only need to complete these guys:
Striker: 1/5 ssethan, 2/5 ssleon, 1/5 sshilda
Tech: 2/5 djgloria, 1/5 sskorrina, 1/5 falliris, ||?/5 ssdiantha||
Support: 2/5 cobalion, 1/5 mesprit
That's all and I'm gonna done for now
look not that bad if only collect candy
Next tech candy will go to djgloria if she is not available in select, if got, will go to ||ssdiantha|| or sskorrina
Fall Iris i will wait to get her dupe from march seasonal select
Will be fine if DeNa doesn't add like 3 faves on February or March then the move level hunt continues
how many legendary left beside Hisui and Padea
A lot: i need to count back
Alola VA on April or May will cost you huge amount tho
Ultra beast galore


Alola Va in a nutshell: Ultra beast galore
Hope Serena has good Ub
True tho
Takana paper thingy and Parasite thingy
cant wait for them
I imagine most of the UBs will be summoned by an ultra wormhole
Then it will be closed before more come to pasio
Speaking of UB pokemon official made 3D UB short lately tho... Look awesome
It’s like a horror movie B Roll
Yeah UB freely go anywhere tho
UB raiding Pasio lets go 
Still like it tho
better than pokemon Go graphic
If pogo is willing to make a horror movie it’s about the ultra beast let’s face it
Ok counted, got 40

Faves:
Kanto(4) - Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres, Melmetal
Johto(1) - Raikou.
Hoenn(3) - Regice, Registeel, Jirachi
Sinnoh(7) - Uxie, Azelf, Heatran, Regigigas, Arceus, Manaphy, Phione.
Unova(4) - Terrakion, Virizion, Thundurus, Meloetta.
Kalos(1) - Volcanion.
Alola(12) - Tapu Koko, Tapu Lele, Tapu Fini, Tapu Bulu, Magearna, Zeraora, Nihilego, Kartana, Xurkitree, Guzzlord, Stakataka, Blacephalon.
Galar(8) - Regieleki, Regidrago, Glastrier, Spectrier, Galar Articuno, Galar Zapdos, Galar Moltres, Zarude.
Hisui(1) - Enamorus.
Paldea(20) - Wo-Chien, Chien-Pao, Ting-Lu, Chi-Yu, Koraidon, Miraidon, Great Tusk, Scream Tail, Brute Bonnet, Flutter Mane, Slither Wing, Sandy Shocks, Roaring Moon, Iron Treads, Iron Bundle, Iron Moth, Iron Jugulis, Iron Hands, Iron Thorns, Iron Valiant.
Yep im prepared at least shiny in pokemas is good because have different kit, stats and weakness...not like mainline games in which they have exact same stuff
They are like UBs with 570 total stats so i gonna collect them
And cannot breed
Weird how the game code says that one group are legends but the other group isn’t
Also if i gonna ignore paradoxes means ignoring koraidon, miraidon as well as they are paradoxes too
They are box arts as well
But they are special little dudes 🥺
Well they are paradoxes
weird paradox
Slither Wing is also a special little dude, wish there were more cute future forms
Just like solgaleo and lunala and necrozma also came from different dimensions so they are actually UBs 
But the game code says they aren’t UBs 
Why does game freak have to be so confusing
At least they are low in quantity paradox is just a abundant in the wild i guess
I thought you can keep hunting UBs unless they are stakataka and blacephalon in USUM just enter ultra space
👀see people go shiny hunt
Also they are in Galar raid dens or something
Imagine future Makuhita... Just a Makuhita with metal plate 
Takes a few minutes to find one White Wormhole for UBs, let alone it being the right one
And in Galars adventures, maybe you can only catch one? I forget, but they are treated like legends
People always talk about how broken wormhole shiny hunts are, but you only get one encounter every few minutes 
They are just special, not like there's only single one...even Pasio have 2 kyurems 
Others got shiny difference
But these kyurem exact same
One is nice tho 

But my faves made me strong to avoid temptation, man 61 unreleased faves...pretty sure i nailed every type coverage once I'm done collecting all of them 
So no need to chase meta rats or frogs or what not
And there's chance for shiny or other form pairs as well 

But at least they are faves so collecting them, completing them, invest on them, using them, will give me happiness 
Enough getting swayed by non faves, and later they are left collecting dust unused
Research says using favs sync pair increase life-span tho 
my current saving list for past sync pairs
||will select Korrina next month and wait for Feb and March datamine to see if i should pull Diantha or not||
look again at it i think it's really big 
Well at least good chance
The pal units will all be in same banner and you want all of them so kinda good
But yeap seeing sssteven in waiting for selects, i not sure what's on DeNa's minda by making all VA pokefairs rerun in select
I don't have specific units in mind, but. Tierlist of characters I want to pull in pokemas:
||1. Must-have, absolute faves, my babies: Kanto trio, Silver, Arven, Sada, Turo, Yellow (haha very copium)
2. Must-have to complete my collection: All game male protags
3. I love you but I don't mind skipping: Steven, Cynthia, N, Kris, Lyra, Gladion, Morty, Wallace, Rika, Bede, Lance
I might consider characters outside of this list depending on their outfits||
Only lucas rerun before in main character scout
Redlax also reran in the main character scout iirc?
Redlax got better treatment, he and cblue and sserika and ssmisty actually reruns during kanto VA rerun...all VA rerun after that doesn't rerun VA units 
Oh right this select have ssmay and ssbrendan, i wonder if sssteven also in it
I hope that so few people buy the 5k select scouts that they stop doing them 
i cant join in because ||Korrina is there|| 
Me buying both

I'm getting either SSKorrina or SSBrendan for sure. Other one idk who I'm getting just yet, I'm a hardcore Dialga fan so hoping no other of my faves take it
But man, i thought they stopped doing 5k selects...but well recently also have 5k pokefair select
Wow big gems next reset 
3240 gems
Also 10
because duplicate 4* event badge 
Gonna 5* erika vileplume
I want SS Brendan and Lucas, though if Dojo Gloria is in the Lucas banner I will be very sad
maybe not sad but i will skip one of the banners and save
may be - 500+ gems i see the day heart unite release is 580 gems but that day i got more... so they might count heart unit voucher collect 50/50 in this
Well 1800 gems out of 3240 is from EBE
Yeah
and 500 more from heart unit mission
Oh because its timegated, so probably we didn't get whole gems of day 1 of unity gala event release
Mine is looking like this at the moment
Nice, you guys all have smaller fave list than mine
easier to complete
but yours is only one unit right now!
chasing rerun is harder than new unit tho
Oh right i didn't have any rerun as i already collected all that i want for now. 
cant make new sync pair fav list when im still chasing rerun
Ready for next reset big gems
well select scout will take a chunk from it though
feb give 3 fav

Kinda good for my collection and type coverage but bad for gems
Perhaps no MF for kalos VA part 2
Seems like they are leaning towards 5/5 pokefairs now
Probably more money
that surely will happen
My fav list of past sync pairs is just anni Steven
But jokes on you DeNa, im happy with just 3/5 
That is why they make|| ss diantha pokefair||
Screw 5/5
I will be more tempted if 5/5 grids have less energy used like power boost grids
But they are not

think about that i wont 4/5 cynthia for dust kicker
I got too many faves, so every candies count...i cannot freely 4/5 or 5/5...just gonna hope that i got their copy during select scout multi, like my ssdawn is 4/5 due to that
Got a copy of her while selecting for ssleon
I am scared of the possibility of Legends Arceus sync pairs dropping anytime 
3 marnie is tech and i still have bunch of tech need candy 
may be on Hisui VA after Galar VA end
I'll prob leave mine at 1/5, too many techs, too little candies
1/5 kinda boring tho at least 2/5 we can have full grid
cant stand 4 energy left cant be used
My cobalion currently at 2/5...cannot wait to 3/5...as 1/5 and 2/5 are pretty meh for bp master units
Need 3/5 for the good stuffs

i will get BP master unit to 3/5 next next year tho i hope
Cant wait if half anni has free BP
Mine is kinda big 
A few MFs and tech/support PFs and ny lisia
Zerena rerun
Sycamore and Lysandre are less popular
then no one else really is left
it will be spotlights for new characters and maybe Emma pf
Lysandre might get an alt like cyrus did and there’s also 2 elite 4 and 2 rivals to give spotlights to
and Lysandre pf too
Is emma more popular than literally anyone else? Maybe >5% of people who played XY even know who she is
Did many not complete the postgame? I didnt do it for a while after finishing the story personally
How is she forgotten for people who didnt even meet her
Idk what the stats are for postgame but a lot of people finish games when the credits roll
Bede is pokefair while being a literally who
Bede appears more on screen than 99% of Kalos characters
Bede prob shouldnt be a pokefair but its silly to compare him to emma
1% being the main group
But tbh
He appears more than Trevor and tierno still
Lol
So it's more like "any Kalos character aside Serena/Calem"
And lysandre
Also it was kinda obvious the moment they made Marnie fair
That bede and eventual hop alt would be fair
I played a bit of the Kalos postgame but had no idea about the Looker stuff
The 3 galar rivals are popular enough to be pokefairs tbf
they skip january so they can give Serena and Calem one more alt...
planned out
I swear, every time the game makes me update, there's an issue with my paid gems from the two gem bundles and I have to contact support.
This time, instead of the game not letting me claim my paid gems, it shows that I already claimed my paid gems in the Claimed tab even though I haven't received the gems. Ever since the update, I've been stuck at the same amount of paid gems. I've been checking my paid gem count every day and I'm getting nothing.
In February it will be one year since Marnie’s last alt and almost 2years since Galar’s MF, waiting for SS Marnie and GMoltres to fill both gaps
This and (hopefully) MF Diantha and Magearna are probably my most wanted pairs and the ones that keep me in saving mode
Veterans, what is your best gem saving and stacking methods?
Put together a list of favs.
Then use your motivation for that when they run for the first time or rerun again ^^
Personally, I look at the flaws in the kit of the unit that is tempting me. Also manifesting about alts of favs helps lol
Is this the thingy that u guys told me?
This game is about prioritizing what you should pull and what to skip.
Yes that was from me.
Yea
Yeah. Anni Lillie is deeply flawed (Sync is underwhelming) but she is a fav
So i saved for her
What is this about if I may ask?
Only a few thing on my fav list, Diantha is one
About saving gems
yeah
And a Cynthia because I don't have a Cynthia yet
Saving gems.
check the pins #1010275375730925638 message
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I mostly want NY Lisia for the physical fairy attack, not favorite
Thankfully diantha stays till march so it doesnt ruin my plans
what is the draw for lisia for you
Probably a good sign not to summon

Physical Fairy Strike. I also need fairy syncers
Also a few days ago, I calculated…around 20K before she comes.
The huge fairy damage and the cute outfit
SS Dia?
Diantha? Its 24k
yeah she is a pretty straightforward striker covering a type that not everyone has good access too. but not necessary.
Yeah I did say approximately ^^;
I can pity Lisia and later pity SS dia too. But if misty happens on palentine, Im done
I also struggle with rock, but rock seems a lot more common of a CS weakness. Probably why im going for Diantha
So... If I like them both and idk who to pick, what should I do?
anni lillie functions pretty similarly. you click TM and then just click the big four bar damage move
What’s your current gem count?
What do you need? Ghost or Fire damage?
700 
Here’s the thing.
wait until the next update to decide
be more decisive you cant have both even if you saving hard
#1006350210450079784 for that if you dont want to save and are ready to risk ending up with nothing
We recommend saving 36.6k.
being able to wait to pull is a good exercise in saving, and helps you move out of the hype window when those banners first launch
I will try to save, for now
I personally use the 50K benchmark, but these last two multies have been hell to my gems
Common sentiment I assume
let me change my name
Self-control, try to get over the FOMO. It takes months to control the feeling, but with experience it naturally comes.
After a while, you will lose the want to scout on every unit
Gacha games thrive off fomo
learn from mistake
Fomo?
Fear of missing out
scouting on Maxie before anni...
Although Maxie has been carrying me on Grass and Ground. I regret nothing.
lose 12k gems on archie tho
Gacha games will slap the “limited time only” on units to make players feel pressured to pull for them
“Get it now or you’ll never get it later”
I remember when I tried to spend all my gems to just get Ash...
And didn't even get him once
see
Yeah, RNG can be a monster
just enjoy the saving
Saving is key.
You want the unit, gotta save for the guarantee.
Look at my username, I’ve saved 37k
If I can, you can.
I start to boom in unit after 3 month of saving
Next next year at minimum
Im now 3K below Pity, Anni N pushed me down 😔
I had to pity C Calem, but I got back in like a month.
January is best month to save
Yea I should be back to pity next month after pitying HNessa
I think i will start pal strong
Pal bea here I come 
make fav list
Ive only seen pity once, but thats maybe just because i only got for one copy then just go the candy route
Will do!
Have rerun saving list
mine is a bit complicate but be mindful rerun unit and new soon to come
Normie and his insider knowledge

Only units i want atm are ss brendan and ss korrina (ill have to not go full monkey on diantha)
Need help
I have alot of pairs id like…. Also maybe cynthia and N so I could use them in lodge
- whatever pairs I like that r released in the future
Thank you for the suggestion, managed to clear the Villa
You ||gonna do the select scout?||
Am I dumb or do I not see N on the list at all?
I know his square was kinda…monotone last time it was updated, so maybe it got removed?
Huh, regular Cynthia is gone too??
Wait did they take off Lodge Poké Fairs?
that's weird
They aren't limited because they are on the lodge banner? What kinda logic is that?
That’s what I wanna think, but it’s honestly dumb.
might as well remove the units from the anime collab ticket then, and kantrio
For some reason the lodge PFs were removed
So N Cynthia Raihan and Marnie arent there anymore
Last list they were just grayed out
Also u/xtraterrestre is the one that makes them I think
Yeah but I don’t know who they are in this server ^^;
Ah
Hmmm…
Ye but just 1
this kinda makes sense. The lodge units are always there now, just terrible rates. Kanto trio is time specific and you can only guarantee 1 from the ticket. Same case with some of the anime collab units (Alder, Lance, Steven, SS Cynthia)
they are still pokefairs for all cases and purposes though
i can't get them without rolling on that one banner
gray area but I lean towards keeping them as limited units. Unless people are going to go to 5 pities on that lodge scout banner
They are limited units because we cannot get them using this
even in the future
Oh right, the only
treatment this month is kukui? Is there any 3*, 4* that got
?
Ya I don’t think summoning for coins is worth it
Summon for move coins are bad, i did it on anni 2021 before this and i feel regret... well as 5 multis on 3 MF banners actually costs 45k and yeap i just loss way more than a pity amount just for coins 
Could have guaranteed one unit and have leftovers with it
Even if you got 2 coins for every multi, that's 24 coins for a pity
That's why every other multi is 5* PUs
that always makes it a bad deal
Coins are just side gifts while pulling a banner and shouldn't be your main goal in a banner...end goal supposed to be getting the featured unit
It would make sense to pull for them if average per multi was 2+ coins though.
But it is not so there's just no discussion period.
Its only 9 strike, 6 tech, 3 support coins for 45k 
ah right, that's another argument
it's mainly strike coins, the most useless ones
if it was all tech...
Might as well buy the coin bundle if you got the money...20 yellow coins, and your gems amount increases and does not decrease
sounds better than 45k for those coins
1 coin bundle ~ 6 sync orb bundle tho
Coin bundle give 5000 gems and 6 sync orb bundle is 18000 gems so kinda lose 13000 paid gems for a coin candy
But this discussion before this is about spending gems on master fair banners to get move coins
So its this
45k gems for those coins

Well at least can use f2p gems but is it worth it to spend 45k free gems
I rather buy coin bundle and add paid gems as well as getting full yellow candy
kinda
But seems like there's no need for me to buy coin bundle on January as i can form 2 move candies on January and only 1 fave appear
Is my wish list good?
I know there are only 3 characters but they're the only ones I care about
Good but there's 4 N, hope you can get all of them
Neat, so you already completed for now 
Yeah
I got 1 fave this month 
Marnie was on the gauntlet banner tho so id say they r still limited
Did u atleast get lillie and n?
Its limited if we cannot get them through
and in general pool
Like bugscyther
Still sad that bugscyther still didn't get
while mistyduck, bluecanine and cgio gets it

23 NY ticket 
Really?
the one that have miniscule chance for pokefair?
I wish they’d rerun him, he’s one of the 5 3/4* im missing
Can cross red out rerun hunt if dream come true

Its only kantrio
I have leaf 1/5 red 3/5 and blue 5/5, so im hoping to pull a few leafs and maybe 2 reds for his expansion
Neat hope to get ssred and ssleaf 
Although i wont use them
But thats 20 gem from sync pair stories
I used them quite alot but I prefer using ss hilda now and I have better units to use for potions
Kinda sad its only kantrio but if they all get 5/5 eventually i guess extra copies are nice
SS Blue is still a very useful support tho
SS leaf is my fav eversince i joint poma.... Love will give me 2 more SS Leaf
I think we have bigger chance this year
Doubt it
0.33% may be
We have like 65 spotlights now
I think they’ll have the same rates
Either way id like to pull some red/leaf copies and save some candies
a man can dream
I wish they included the ones from last yr as well
I started like a month after but iirc it was cynthia and her ss, lance, steven, rachel, and sawyer?
I have ss cynthia but id like to get cynthia for lodge and the other 2 for when we get them in lodge
Iirc you needed 2 to pull once? Could be wrong
I’ll check the mines
Nvm, it’s one each 
Its a daily simulator, can compare the results like doing 23 dailies 
Or 23 singles
If keep getting 3* then its a bad sign
Fair
I’m just trying to make sense of the person who decided to exclude the units if i wasn’t being clear
I don’t mind getting nothing from the tickets. Basically free resources for me.
I do think the NY ticket pool will be expanded this year as well
From 4 to maybe like 8
Ya hopefully it isn’t just those three exclusives on those tickets.
But I’m starting to have a feeling it is.
Hopefully, i rather 4/5 N / Lysandre / Gloria than getting 1/5 sskantrio as they are actually my faves
How is that many gems in one day even possible??
1800 of it is from EBE
EBE?
Some of it would be from Anni Steven’s Heart’s United stages
..whats that, again?
Yep extreme battle event
Extreme Battle time
Whats a good team i should prepare for that?
Actually, I’ll go to the channels for the battle stuff for that
#1009557516369281075 ask there.
I just said I’ll ask there instead you dont need to keep doing that every time i ask a question
There's a good chance you didn't know the exact channel for that, so you got redirected.
That’s why I did it… :T
Same but my first N/Gloria and maybe some lysandre copies, got him from the gauntlet banner and maxed ss blue from it as well
did we not get 3240 gems today
Elaborate
As in, we do. What's your question
Oh hey, that's the amount of gems we got today.
the bot say we get 1900 gems or is that an error in typing
Oh
We get gems from EB. daily missions, event missions, some more
Definitely more than 1900
I only look at the pin. Idt many of us here visit gen chat a lot tbh.
But yeah, 3240 should be the correct number
Yeah the pins in here are useful.
The gem gains might be calculated differently depending on the source, so the correct question would be
"How do we get amount_of_gems listen in pins today?"
1900 is probably the outdated number, before Jan update dropped
so sad reach pity without any pair... Winter banner is brutal
Btw start saving again
gambate
After 3 long months of gem zenning, I have unofficially reach the mark of 400k gems
But only for a day before 2023
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
👀
yeah, its def not easy when I do plan to invest in Holiday Jasmine and C Serena soon
why does this remind me of someone getting 400000 primogems in genshin
Exactly 400 000 
well unoffically
i have paid gems in it
Yeah very impressive I could never lmao
i will anybody can save if they put their mind into it, with a good amount of help
Help?
Denied
Hello I am Helper
hahaha
Help in this thread I guess, there are lots of people who give helperful advice
I’m too addicted to pulling but I think once Calem leaves I will finally save again! Since I don’t have any pair that super interests me this datamine/update
So hopefully I can restart my saving journey
Since I haven’t actually saved in like 6-7 months lol
Still have alot of pairs I want so idk how much ill be able to save
Rn I got to pity for Serena and am desperately trying to get Calem with what gems I have left before he leaves so we’ll see
4 multis so far on lillie and havent gotten her yet either
enough to pity?
if not dont bother
and cut your losses
I just feel like I’ve got Serena I might as well try for the perfect support for her since they’re built to be together
Cause how likely is it he’ll be rerun at some point
unless you pour paid gems into it
Yeah that’s probably best it’s just so tempting to try since idk if he’ll come back but you’re right objectively
Still want to atleast get lisia 
when u ever wanna pull anything, u must have good / strong reasons to pull
the stronger the connections
honestly, it's the temptation and emotions that want us to pull
the more u are likely that u wont regret at all
That makes sense
of cos thats all after u have saved a pity
if theres any hesitation of pulling that jnut, u probably shouldnt
Yeah normally I just pull on fave characters/Pokémon (Hilda and Victini or any N pair) or pairs I think I would have fun using in the game (SS May, Champ Serena, I like debuffs lol)
||Serena alone already clears most stages without an OP support||
So in those cases I don’t have much regret
But for Calem I guess it’s diff
Since I just think his outfit is cool and he’s a good pair for Serena and not much other connection
then ditch it
seriously how far are you in terms of pity
True you right
u probably not a calem simp anyways
yeah its best to skip
ditch the yolo mindset in gacha
that way its easier to save
enough horro stories in salt chat
70/400
70?
And I think I get 5 more pulls or so before he leaves since I’m almost at one more rn
in terms of your gem count
just cut your losses lol
Fair I guess then I can save to actually have enough for pity before my next pull
Thanks for the advice y’all appreciate it
Also idk what you mean by in terms of gem count
I have 2830 gems rn and am at 70/400 scout points as I used some paid daily discounts as I paid for the 1500 bundle to use on masters days and ended up caving a bit
Well lemme give you some advice
Pitying a unit is 36.6k
You save free gems for that, then you pull for a unit you want.
Now, paid gems on the other hand
Are meant for selects, stuff like that.
just always question yourself whether that unit is worth a pity
I see
Yeah I know the 36.6 and ideally I try to save till pity but most of the time a ton of units come out and I like multiple and so I pull on one before I have enough saved
You need to prioritize.
Visit this place before pulling, we may talk you out of it
You can’t get them all, and bad timings can happen.
Like Unova villain arc I was down bad lol since I’m a huge Unova simp but I got lucky thankfully so it worked out (though it ate all my gems)
well if you spend gems
But in other situations I’ve gotten bad luck and it hasn’t worked
you can always tried daily pulling
Ty I’ll try that
I don’t usually pay
Do you have a list of faves written down?
If not, try writing it down, short one, 5-7 names at most. It will prevent getting tempted by new units.
in that case, yeah just hard skip for now and come back another day
I’m like 80% F2P
I usually pay the $0.99 every masters day for the paid scout since I think it’s affordable and I don’t mind it
And I pay for a couple more attempts on faves that are leaving occasionally (done it like four times in the year and a half I’ve played the game)
Some of those times the payment has gotten me to pity
Other times it hasn’t
yeah def have a list of favs or some personal needs and evaluate which unit is worth the pity
But I’ve never spent more than like $20 on a scout I think I don’t really whale or anything
88,940 today
gonna wait for select scouts
That’s a good idea
I think my faves are tough since a lot of the time I pull for the Pokémon not the trainer
Since I used to play draft league so a lot of mons are near and dear to me
that's fine, do indeed save up to 36k gems first and evaluate if this unit is worth 36k gems to you
We are the same, i like pokemons too 🤝
Yayyy
yeah i do love pokemon as well
Crazy
So what about the fave list? Do you have it?
No I’ll make one now
Should it only include trainers in game now
Or should it have people who aren’t there yet like yancy
nah it should be how you wanted it
Use Sages Tiermaker...it really helps 
Both.
Yeah I use his tiermaker for planning legend gauntlet and my Home Screen lol
There are trainers not in the game that people want.
It’s very useful
Got it
I’m on my phone rn so I’ll prob just write it out and make a fancy one with the tier maker tomorrow on my laptop
After i finished full hearts United i have 700 gems
So 1800 from gala
So I'll have 2500 gems
Not 3240 which we were supposed to get
cool you do that
you just have to evaluate where your direction you want to go
Have you considered Story gem rewards?
battle with your favourite trainer/pokemon, strong units to blast through, or mix of both world
Will do! Thanks again everyone for the great advice will try to make a faves list and hit y’all up if I get tempted for something
or collect alts for the drips lol
Yeah I do that sometimes too lol
Definitely pulled on Hilda and Diancie mainly since I loved the outfit lol
But yeah I usually do a mix of strong meta units that I’d enjoy using and pairs I really like
if you want, you can dm me if you are struggling to save up to a pity and other stuff
Will do ty!
i personally help players reach their saving goals
These are my fave pairs I have so I’ll try to condense this into a list tomorrow since it’s like 2:30 am for me lol
And pick the ones I really like from both currently in game
And not in game
While I keep coping for Yancy
That’s a sick af theme, where’d you get that?
Thank you!!! I made it myself lol
I just made the template in photoshop from some screenshots I took and then overlapped
Ah yes,SSSteven is YouTube.
And then I used sages tiermaker to pull the images of the EX pairs I have and love
Noice
Steven would be a sick YouTuber man
It’s a rock YT channel lmao
Ty! I’ll reach out to you if I’m having trouble :)
🪨
Gem count, 
nice almost to 100k gems
yooo 
New Years baby
New year of saving!
3k gems new year login bonus 
After that, it will be pretty dry for me till 12th...well at least i got 1 fave and 1 fave upgrade this upcoming month 
Honestly nice to see where I started from with 14,500 to 95k


You love to see it 
Two skip months 
So many gems 
November is harsh for me, its UnoVA right iirc?
Think so ye
Now that i have 150 faves, the sorting kinda messed up
As level 150 goes top of sorting order 
2000 gems in saving 
So some of yours favs are just in different orders now?
Yes, it still sort based on date acquired though, just between level 150
Level 140 also the same but still level 150 goes top while less levels goes down
Pog gems today
150 legendary in this game?
Around 2700 gems
Vantner how many favs have you made 150 so far?
Level 150
Ok not bad
26 approaching 27
today is a great day for gem collecting
even though i did not attempt eb just yet
So I can easily get back a good amount of what I used today, not bad
going to wait while to enjoy the 400k gem count
Yeap almost done with all of my MF faves
cant wait till january lottery
honestly, after a bit of fav spending
i wanna push my goal to 500k to Chest's ultimate number
and post it on Reddit
Only left sslyra to 150, then i not sure if i should 150 seasonal faves or special costume faves
150 FIris? 

I might can finish 150 seasonal on January
Nihilego 
Alola VA
Better not make it Rock
I marked it on mylist lusamine and Nihilego
Yep, especially after shiny diancie...i truly not want rock 
i plan to grab Fall Iris in March
no


Can't lose my beloved to Rock 
Terrakion and stakataka probably be rock, so nihilego better be poison 
My Poison collection needs to grow

Psychic espatra 
I like Espathra so I'll let it off the hook for now
Mortal Spin is Glimmora's sign move right?
lady gaga
Just a pain when a dual Poison pokemon is given the non poison type for a unit
so it's very likely that Geeta is Poison type
I feel weird with the ostrict
I never saw Lady Gaga I always see Cleopatra

If they implement Glimmora Toxic Debris, she sounds good for stall team 
team poison passive
despite having Shadow Bone as the sign move Kiawe is Fire type so Geeta might be Rock type
Ignore antitoxin 
Ssbrendan luster purge psychic but he become dragon 
This is what scares me
Please let mi amor be a Poison unit
everything turn to rock eventually
Making the base unit be Poison I'll be fine
Talking about rock, we need more fossil non MC pairs 
Cradily when 
i would like Omanyte
Mega aggron steven pair when? 
I don't have a problem with Rock, just when the type that is not Poison of a dual type Pokemon is chosen 
SS Gio moment
I guess it was a win either way, the dual types were of the 2 lowest type units
true
For who got the 20 days bundles
Do you get just the 1k on first day? Or you also get the other 100?
you get both 1k and 100 gems on the first day
i think so
I see
Yep
Hopefully we get ny deals, because I wanna get mat
Because this reset already 1/20
*may
We already know about ny deals and it is kinda bad
Guys...
PLEASE TALK ME OUT OF SPENDING MY PAID GEMS ON CALEM!!!
Ah
Thank you bundle have much better value
Ye
How deep are you in his banner?
I will dip into some of my paid gems if i already close to pity and the banner almost gone
So if I get the 3k one, I should get blaziken next month
Plus it's a Master fair
Two times
Might need to wait a year plus before CCalem rerun again but still, thats if you are close to pity
Anyone know how many gems are left till CSerena is gone?
200 scout points.
201 actually.
If I use the 14K free ones before he's gone plus a couple paid ones, I might be able to pity.
But I need to do the Selects as well.
Well see how it looks in a week
I’m at 297/400 on Serena and have 2190 gems currently idk if I’m gonna make it
Did you get all the gems available today?
I mean… there’s extreme battles and the 3rd part of heart united event
Try to do it, you should be able to do another x11 multi on Cerena after it
Then after that you should be fine till January 9th
Good luck
Wait so I can pity Serena?
Assuming you get ALL the free gems available by doing missions and stuffs, yes
12k yea not even counting the ~3k gems we get today
Next reset?
So I finally broke my old record of saving gems and have 25k gems now
I have 10k paid gems granted, but I broke my record for earning non-paid gems
Good stuff


10k select + 1 pity


only 200 gems

is poison tho