Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)

[umbral meteor]

yea

Altho idk if they would wanna use that for villain arc

since its so iconic its easily some main anni worthy

esp because of anime

they are always huge anw

serena and sylveon
ash and greninja

[tawny cedar]

Avg how much?

[grand bramble]

24k-30k

[tawny cedar]

Hope for 30k

Guarantees siebold+1 ny unit

[grand bramble]

We willlll seeeee..... It might be higher next year

Wow... We're getting close to 2023

[deft glen]

pls

I am legit saving for a new MF and a Serena alt for Kalos VA

[timber wren]

good to start saving now then, kalos VA probably isnt too far off

probably late january into february

[deft glen]

I'll have 44k by the end of the month

[timber wren]

nice!

[deft glen]

I always make sure I have at least 14k at the end of the month so that I can get enough to pity a surprise Serena alt

[timber wren]

that seems a little risky if she gets a seasonal that doesnt last the whole month, like NY or palentines

[deft glen]

true 😢

[tawny cedar]

Palentines is impossible

Ny is possible

Ny,summer,sc and xmas

[maiden kayak]

Ny

gems are ready

[umbral meteor]

30k

[umbral meteor]

you mean mid

end january is palentines

[umbral meteor]

lol she wont get NY if kalos arc is in jan

its like dawn/cynthia last year getting NY or palentines during their arc

dont think so

why do ppl keep saying next arc in february/end january its more likely to be mid january

sinnoh part 1 was also mid january with lucas

[cunning swan]

Ha

[umbral meteor]

dw i know its copium

[cunning swan]

[signal halo]

I tend to like fast pokemon, as well as versatile pokemon, as well as poison Pokemon. Crobat fits all 3

[sturdy flower]

I tend to like Pokemon

[signal halo]

There are specific ones that I like

Which reminds me that I likely should put NY lance in my fave list

Because I like Gyarados and they haven't made lysandre with it

By the way

Egg Gyarados, iirc, is in the same tier as NY lance, is it because Lance is bad or due to the egg being absurdly good?

[maiden kayak]

i dont think NY lance is bad

his dps is still hella strong even after 2 years

but gyrados as an egg is absurdly strong yes

[signal halo]

I wonder what would happen if it got a grid

[umbral meteor]

well eggmons dont get grids

[lean mango]

Crobat is like my favorite pokemon of all time no other pokemon gets anywhere near

[signal halo]

For me, it would be weavile

[lean mango]

Waiting for them to release Proton so I can have my third bat

[signal halo]

But crobat and gen v pokemon are up there

[lean mango]

I have maxed out all Crobat units available and won't hesitate to max another

[signal halo]

Sadly there's no weavile for me to max

I do have both crobats at 140, however

[lean mango]

sadge, they. could've give it to Lodge Silver but oh well

[umbral meteor]

or lodge gladion

[signal halo]

I'd rather see weavile being a fomo busted ice pair

Lodge ceiling tends to be low for an all time fave

[lean mango]

:PetPetCrobatPlushie:

[umbral meteor]

lodge got bulbasaur

very popular

[signal halo]

Even though they already made my favourite psychic there in sigilyph

[umbral meteor]

weavile is definately gonna be a seasonal/sc anw if not BP or lodge

[signal halo]

My weavile user of choice would be cyrus

[umbral meteor]

probably gonna be gladion or silver

[lean mango]

I hope there's a Lodge Zubat cause hehe

[signal halo]

I also want team rocket to come back

But they sound pretty unlikely to rerun

[umbral meteor]

back?

[lean mango]

The duo righ?

[signal halo]

Yes

[umbral meteor]

ah those

[signal halo]

Jessie and James

[umbral meteor]

maybe rerun next mth with anime ending

[signal halo]

I like weezing and I like those characters

[lean mango]

Same they're the 2 units I'm missing from PoisonMAX

The only other left would be LMarnie and tbh

Don't like her

[umbral meteor]

Dont like marnie?

[spare swift]

Ah, James.. good ol' days

[lean mango]

I just find her boring

[spare swift]

When I used to 2v3 poison stall with him as tank, his poison gas was just amazing

[umbral meteor]

shes so cute

[lean mango]

I find Lisia more cute

[umbral meteor]

ig

[spare swift]

Kiawe is the cutest

[lean mango]

based

I also found her a bit bothersome during SWSH

[spare swift]

So, today I spent my gems, my target was achieved

[umbral meteor]

atleast shes more involved in her game than lisia tho

[spare swift]

And, I got victini in 6k, genesect in 6k and BKyurem in 26k gems

All thanks to savings

Now I can finally save more

[lean mango]

But for me it isn't how involved it's making an impact, literally 3 of my top favorites aren't that involved in the game they're in ajd and that Eusine

[umbral meteor]

oh ye

eusine

[lean mango]

I would say Eusine would be included in Crystal 1/3

[tawny cedar]

God pls no

After ny i will be broke

I am not prepare to pull a calem alt yet

[ashen thunder]

I hope they add like 5 more gen pool in lodge

[tardy jolt]

I want Lusamine to be added tbh, ideally all the Ether family members should join the lodge at some point. Close second from the General Pool would be Serena, then maybe Caitlin and Dawn
For PFs, ofc I'd really appreciate Diantha

(I still wish we could get a playable version of Aurorus with her, so if we don't get a Christmas Seasonal, then a lodge pair would be alright)

[tawny cedar]

If caitlin was in lodge her only super exciting topic would be sleeping

She just like me fr

[umbral meteor]

you will be able to pity tho

since it will last till feb28

Doesnt matter whether it comes in p1 or p2

[tawny cedar]

Wait kalos va is confirmed?

[umbral meteor]

No what

Its most likely next tho

[tawny cedar]

Imagine alola comin in with 7-8 new unitd

[umbral meteor]

they didnt do unova with 7-8 why will they do alola lol

[tawny cedar]

4 tapus+ubs+dusk wings

[umbral meteor]

probably 4-5

not happening

we have zeraora and magearna and melmetal left before the ub's

[tawny cedar]

I dunno why but i feel like sycamore would take magearna

I just have that feeling

[umbral meteor]

I dont even think he would get an alt

if its just 3pfs like unova and hoenn

by anime logic magearna shuld go to lillie

but maybe selene if lillie gets dawn wings like N

[spare swift]

I dont think so we will get dawn wings necrozma

You cant expect elio or lusamine or gladion to suddenly pop out a necrozma and it will devour lillie's lunala

And btw, without lusamine, guzma won't be able to do anything extraordinary

I fear alola VA will be somewhat similar to hoenn VA, in which the villian is actually not doing anything villianous

[umbral meteor]

dont worry

they will justify it

[spare swift]

I want tapu koko, it is fairy right?

[umbral meteor]

electric

[spare swift]

Any one of the tapu was fairy, iirc

[umbral meteor]

Probably would be ultra beasts rampaging

[umbral meteor]

all are fairies

they will do dawn wings necro anw since we dont have photon geyser yet

[spare swift]

Hmm, photon geyser

Oh btw, I am sad devs didn't give BKyurem fusion bolt

[umbral meteor]

maybe saving for shiny

shiny BK or shiny zekrom wtv

[spare swift]

Another kyurem!

No

Man

[umbral meteor]

we dont even have white kyurem yet what

[spare swift]

They are popping legendaries like pidgey on route 1

[umbral meteor]

no its actually very less lol

last main legend we got was luhia

lugia

which was in june

[spare swift]

Legendaries = legendaries + mythicals + ubs

[umbral meteor]

mythicals are not legendaries

ubs are yes

anw if you mean all

Its understandable they are spamming them

Its year 4 what do you expect

most hyping pairs are legendaries so

atleast we got our 3rd anni with 3 commons

[spare swift]

5 master fairs

At same time

All game breaking units

[umbral meteor]

we havent even had 3pfs at the same time except 2.5 anni obv but thats anni so which is always a trio

why cope so much

[spare swift]

Ash, SST red and ssa cynthia were around the same time, right?

Also, the johto MF pairs

[umbral meteor]

yes all 3 were anniv what lol

[spare swift]

I want 18 master fairs on 28 august 2023, since it will be last date for rosa ex bingo and mew bingo

18 fairs for all 18 types

[umbral meteor]

too much copium

[spare swift]

You think dena will extend the mission bingo dates?

[lean mango]

Updated my list a bit and remove some folks

[umbral meteor]

i dont think so

the bingos were 3yrs old

might as well end them on 4th anni lol

[spare swift]

So, at the end, rosa will aslo become a limited free EX

[sturdy flower]

watch it be Ghetsis as main villain Alola

[spare swift]

After 28 august 2023, we will be saying, "at earlier times, we used to get free rosa ex"

[umbral meteor]

so true

he hostages lillie in usum

[spare swift]

I wonder what happened to jessie and james

[umbral meteor]

collab

dead forever now

[spare swift]

They weren't seen in VAs also

[umbral meteor]

They are collabs what

why would they be in VA's

[spare swift]

Ah

I didn't know that

[umbral meteor]

For movie Coco

Ah

They came in mid/late 2020 for collab of movie secrets of the jungles

[spare swift]

Thank goodness I got them then

[umbral meteor]

like ash in late2022 for anime finale

[sturdy flower]

if there's non Ash anime we will probably get the protag too at some point

[umbral meteor]

?

what protag?

[sturdy flower]

main character of new anime*

if there's one

[spare swift]

We want goh and mew

[sturdy flower]

i don't want Goh

[umbral meteor]

maybe when they resume

[umbral meteor]

no nobody does lol

[lean mango]

No

[spare swift]

Wow, too strong reaction

[sturdy flower]

anime spoiler ||there are like 3 episodes left, and the last one hints at Ash ending his journey for now(?)||

[lean mango]

I can never forgive Goh for catching Suicune

[sturdy flower]

we will probably get some news about new anime afterwards

[umbral meteor]

|| its probably a break until they get settled with their team since most of the staff members quitted ||

[sturdy flower]

||huh, why did they quit?||

[spare swift]

Btw, why are you talking in spoilers?

This talk doesn't induce someone to spend gems or resources

[lean mango]

Anime spoilers ig

[umbral meteor]

|| you didnt know? thats why we got so many recaps in btwn they dont have much staff ||

[hardy creek]

||some animators left after SM (probably due to the style no longer being as animation friendly as the SM style was???), but also part of the issue with staff was OLM taking on lots of seasonals and other shows so having to split staff up between the different projects. but I wouldn't be surprised if them splitting staff up between shows also made other staff quit because their workloads increased||

[thorny pelican]

Could just take the conversation to #pokemon-general or something

[signal halo]

I feel it would be Giovanni assembling the rainbow rocket

[sturdy flower]

But that would require Archie and Maxie (RSE) for example

[signal halo]

I wonder if they would include Rose in it, which wouldn't be a possible crossover given gen viii wasn't out

[chrome nest]

Extreme battle today

[tardy fiber]

Hard to do when Giovanni is at odds with most of the team leaders on Pasio...Maxie, Archie, Ghetsis hates him

[chrome nest]

I’ll use ghetsis to heat ghetsis

[signal halo]

He has to pull off something, however

So far all he has done is to piss people off meddling with affairs that weren't his

[tardy fiber]

Probably related to hoopa, evil team already started to target it in Paulo VA

[signal halo]

Wonder if Paulo will become a fully fledged villain and become another OC pair, like lear

However, if he gets hoopa unbound, he'll inevitably land on an overcrowded type

To this day I pray for poison shiny eternatus

[sturdy flower]

so far they only show that Paulo is just very immature

[velvet charm]

Where is my wallace alt 😭

[sturdy flower]

even compared to Hugh

[tardy fiber]

I won't mind, kinda happy with how they do shiny Legendaries in masters. As shiny and non shiny units have a vast difference in roles and kits so more coverage for me

[signal halo]

Or lusamine and ub jelly, forgot how the rock poison one was named

[sturdy flower]

dark is less crowded than psychic, but still

[signal halo]

Yes, but it already has some massive spotlight pairs to cover it

Which reminds me I should grid Bea's 3/5

Since fighting is one of my worse types

[chrome nest]

Good amount of gems today and tomorrow

[hardy creek]

I want evil paulo so bad need him to stop hesitating and just commit a crime already

[chrome nest]

Bv and eb

[sturdy flower]

honestly, if they stay close to the original then Hyperspace Furry will be stronger than Hole

wait, Hoopa is unavailable in SV again, so much for our mascot

[tardy fiber]

So time for a new mascot when SV arrives to masters

[tough oriole]

Symbiont?

[tough oriole]

Hyperspace Fury is a Dark Type move

[signal halo]

No, that kind of name was jelly, almost sure

I mean the other name, like pheromosa, xurkitree, Buzzwhole, guzzlord

[tardy fiber]

Symbiont is nihilego

Glutton is guzzlord

[signal halo]

Wait

Wasn't it jelly, the ub name?

I thought nihilego was jelly

From jellyfish

[tardy fiber]

Its symbiont because it attaches to a host like attached to Lusamine

[lean mango]

THIS

Give Wallace his time to shine

[tardy fiber]

Champion wallace wailord

[lean mango]

I want him in some new drip

[upbeat lotus]

Palentine Wallace & Luvdisc

[lean mango]

YES

[umbral meteor]

valentines in japan is about females distributing chocolates so they might never do males for palentines

as for champion wallace they alr did hoenn cs without him we still believe they have plans to do champion wallace?

conclusion: dont cope

[sturdy flower]

but there's also white day, the only unfortunate part is that it would be in half anniversary month

[umbral meteor]

they dont do white day seasonals what

palentines is derived from valentines it has no relation to white day

[hardy creek]

they could always start doing white day

this year they did the charming boys banner so there's a chance they might go full on white day next year (please )

[tardy fiber]

They did white day lance, steven, N banner before

So there's already some acknowledgement

[broken mulch]

Yeah there was that male banner haha

So the only champions that haven’t gotten love are Alder and Wallace right?

[wind nymph]

Hi does anyone have advice on how to beat Chest to one million gems? Thanks

[umbral meteor]

They probably wont since its in half anni month

they have anniv units + 1mf to do

[umbral meteor]

those are not called seasonals

[umbral meteor]

yea and makes sense those two are the least popular ones

esp alder

[sturdy flower]

I like Alder more than Wallace...

[umbral meteor]

It might just be a one time event like they keep doing anw like last yr we had bidoof day and team break day this year they acknowledged white day , golden week , st. patricks day and eevee day doesnt mean we get them every year

[umbral meteor]

doesnt matter bcoz

both probably would never get attention anw

[lean mango]

I've been doin it for years I'm not gonna stop now

[umbral meteor]

you shuld

maybe classic wallace but champion is impossible now

[lean mango]

?

[umbral meteor]

they even called champion blue as classic blue bcoz they used his GL outfit for kanto cs

[lean mango]

There isn't impossible to call it Champion Wallace

[umbral meteor]

it is

or explain why they called champion blue as classic blue

if they had plans to ever do a champion wallace they would have alr done it on 1.5th anniv or before hoenn cs

[lean mango]

Him being champion was exclusive in a game like Iris Blue became champion in all games that he's in

There's kinda no way to prove it's impossible it's DeNa

[umbral meteor]

just dont cope

well i mean

It can be called classic

[lean mango]

I'm gonna keep coping

[umbral meteor]

but if they really had plans to call it champion

[umbral meteor]

^

[lean mango]

done it for years not gonna stop now

[umbral meteor]

hoenn cs in his GL outfit was enough to make ppl understand they dc abt wallace imo

[umbral meteor]

[lean mango]

I don't really see that

[umbral meteor]

why?

they used his gym leader outfit and made him champion

Isnt that enough proof they have no plans for champion wallace

[lean mango]

I don't think they would stop caring about him

[umbral meteor]

They never started tho so they cant stpp Lol

anw i meant for his champion outfit only

[lean mango]

He'll probably get an alt you never know

[umbral meteor]

He can get other alts

Probably

but not champion

alder tho

yikes

[lean mango]

He might get an Iris treatment

[umbral meteor]

?

fall wallace?

[lean mango]

They gave her Champion

[umbral meteor]

-.- is it so hard to understand c iris was before unova CS and they actually used her champion outfit for unova CS

but they used gym leader wallace for hoenn CS

and iris was during 1.5 anniv

which was literally themed about all champions are in game now

which only included leon , c iris and diantha as last ones

its completely different from how they treated wallace they just did his region's CS in his gym leader outfit

[lean mango]

yea true

[umbral meteor]

I think he may get classic

Like blue did

Altho technically frlg blue is his champion outfit

The one they used for kanto CS is hgss one

same as wallace

or if none he can probably get some random seasonal/sc or ss anw

[lean mango]

Though would still like it to be called Champion even if it is unlikely

[umbral meteor]

ig so

[upbeat lotus]

3700 gems reached today im slowly making progress

My next goal is 6k

[chrome nest]

Extreme battle more like pathetic battle

Just use ghetsis

[maiden kayak]

no need to annouce your pull

so damn unnecessary flex here

[tardy fiber]

Ghetsis power boost is kinda good, that tm ramp up, glaciate mgr and sharp entry really helps for faster preparation...i admit that i think its kinda bad before this but now after testing today its hella good

Sync free move not sure, i dont think it helps up much than other three grids

[upbeat lotus]

his sync is already good before the PB, its great that the PB fixes many of his problems

tbh he only needs EX to be good

[tardy fiber]

Yep, i hate his tm that only buff 1 sp atk if he is at full health before this

This help his ramp up

[weary spire]

It makes him a little more self-sufficient/less dependent on support, but it’s nice considering he has actually always been a pretty good unit imo, that was just the only thing holding it back slightly

And while that EB really wasn’t too hard (it was lowkey catered to him as well), I think it just goes to show that the game isn’t really changing with any other limited Ice type out there

A lot of these free units will get buffs to keep up, anyway. Only a matter of time before something you feel you need in your roster rn gets covered by a unit you already have

[umbral meteor]

his damage also holds him back a bit

since its on the lower side

[tardy fiber]

Im ready, already 150 all legendary adventure units

[rare swan]

nice!!

[sly breach]

How is this game any fun if you are not making pulls?

[rare swan]

There are plenty of parts of the game that are fun, pulling is only one small section of it really

that, and I personally find the idea of having enough gems to guarantee my fave more fun than random pulls

[timber wren]

congrats but please try to avoid showing off getting a gacha unit early to avoid tempting other players into pulling

[oak crest]

someone should delete that msg tbh or at least spoiler it

[timber wren]

this game like all gacha games does not provide enough (free) resources to pull all the time, so if pulling is the only enjoyment you derive from the game it will get dull very quickly

[tardy fiber]

We did do pulls but only on our faves, well if you pulling every unit that came out. How will you have gems to pull your favourite unit if it comes.

[umbral meteor]

that also depends on how many favs you have

if they are too less then it might not matter much

[tardy fiber]

Well the person itself is the one that knows what their faves are so it's up to them. If they think their list are small and want to risk it, let them be. This group just talk about the consequences of such actions, so if anything negative that comes with it lies on their own responsibility.

[umbral meteor]

obviously

[tardy fiber]

Its just sometimes people came here and wrote only have this much gems and seems i cannot get this fave of mine

We tend to avoid that situation

Oh seems like i cannot reach pity with this month's gems

[umbral meteor]

altho getting fun only from pulling is natural

its a gacha game with not much content so

just that have to keep in mind never to pull without pity

[tardy fiber]

Yep, thats why i answered that guy that people have fun pulling their faves...the person probably thought people in this group never pulls and how it is fun

We did pull, just not on everything that came out and skipped certain units that are not faves

Clearing the misconception

[umbral meteor]

i mean there are many who pull very rarely

sitting at 500k+ extra

[umbral meteor]

but the reason is still this so ^

[tardy fiber]

Yep at that point, it depends on the owner itself...if they want to pull non faves, they will. I cannot talk for their side.

I only gonna concern about my gems amount to see if i can get my next fave

Healthy enough for December i guess

Will be 60k+

[umbral meteor]

gl

[tardy fiber]

[lofty relic]

Does someone have on top of their head the date they said they'd send the 3k rally gems please?

[umbral meteor]

they already did on 14th

[lofty relic]

huh i totally missed that, interesting

i just checked the claimed present box and you're right, thanks

if we have 10k left this month that means i'm back to 50k by the end, very happy

[umbral meteor]

nice

[rare swan]

[tardy fiber]

Nothing to look up to for the remaining of this month for me, other than Lysandre 2/5 grids lets goo

[sturdy flower]

Kris grid expansion

40 atk is 40 atk

[umbral meteor]

Dont forget inertia

[maiden kayak]

yea inertia was a huge upgrade

i dont remember strikers have 2 nuke multipliers like that

[upbeat lotus]

Super Powered 5 as well

They really did Kris's PB justice

[umbral meteor]

ss serena level nuke now

close iirc

[upbeat lotus]

SSGrimsley after seeing Kris outclass him

[timber wren]

he was already outclassed by her when she got ex. but now shes a really good reason to not be tempted by the next shiny water striker. pretty easily accessible from johto tickets and shes really great even at 3/5

[umbral meteor]

i mean we always had cyrus anw and this year strike gyarados also to not be tempted by a shiny water striker

but now shes another option yeah

[timber wren]

can you even get magikarp from normal eggs

[umbral meteor]

no

ig only cyrus

[timber wren]

hes still a great option too

[sand crown]

I’m so glad Feraligtr has been done right, my fave Johto line

[upbeat lotus]

I can easily skip any water strikers now unless fav

[umbral meteor]

But always could ever since cyrus

[grand bramble]

hey... When is the special login bonus again

[sand crown]

I’m hoping for something like that for Typhlosion

[grand bramble]

Next reset?

[umbral meteor]

what special login

no

[upbeat lotus]

SV celebration i think

[umbral meteor]

18th

[grand bramble]

SV login

[upbeat lotus]

Its 2 resets away

[grand bramble]

2 days left

[upbeat lotus]

Whorus

[weary spire]

The lower side of damage relative to what is otherwise complete overkill for basically all content, yeah. Even so, relative to other Ice types, there aren't even many that are stronger, and most of the few that are, aren't that much stronger

[umbral meteor]

i mean ghetsis is far from overkill

[weary spire]

Not to mention he still outnukes almost all of them as it is

Not bad for a free unit

[umbral meteor]

once you get a 2/5 hala you would basically not wanna really use him for 2k ice weak

[sturdy flower]

it's just ice being in 2021 when content is in 2020

[umbral meteor]

obviously

[weary spire]

Ye, but Hala isn't even all that much better

From what I know

[umbral meteor]

he is a lot better

as a damage dealer

overall yeah not much

[weary spire]

In part because he doesn't require as much on his own, doesn't he?

[umbral meteor]

and obviously requires 2/5 while ghetsis is free 5/5

[sturdy flower]

at least Ghetsis and Hala cover special/physical nicely

[weary spire]

Or is there some huge damage gap

I'd be surprised if there was

Unless you take into account AOE of Glaciate maybe

[umbral meteor]

Its just no setup required and you one shot ice weak 2k every week i would say thats definately a lot better than ghetsis

[weary spire]

Ye exactly

[umbral meteor]

lmao sinnoh aint 2020

smh

[weary spire]

• With Ghetsis being easier to use now, there isn't even all that much of a gap, in particular when it comes to damage from what I could tell

Hala is obviously better

[sturdy flower]

ice weak sinnoh is

[weary spire]

Ice just isn't a type rn where there are huge gaps in damage between most of these units honestly

[umbral meteor]

definately is tho lol braindead one shot every week is far better than setting up ghetsis for a ST nuke which is still gonna take a bit more brain to clear but he does require 2/5 over ghetsis who is free 5/5

[sturdy flower]

ice is where electric was before anni

[umbral meteor]

i mean yes

i suppose so

[weary spire]

There's somewhat of a gap with like Hilbert & Leon, but even still

[umbral meteor]

electric had ny volk

[weary spire]

Ofc

In terms of him being better

[umbral meteor]

id say electric was still alot better before anni

ice is far

[weary spire]

I was making the point with damage which was the original reply initially

That there wasn't all that much of a damage gap relative to other types

[sturdy flower]

mainly because of terrain vs lmao weather

[umbral meteor]

i just meant as compared to other LE's damage also holds him back a bit

[weary spire]

Hala is easier to use as well

[umbral meteor]

ye so?

[sturdy flower]

the type is gimped because DeNa didn't do a good job making types equally powerful

[weary spire]

But essentially, if you can clear with Hala, you can clear with Ghetsis without all that much of a gap outside of some convenience with a notable advantage Hala has being EXed for AOE nuke

[umbral meteor]

how they didnt do a good job? thats what they gave zones for

[sturdy flower]

gotta love my rock and ice zones!

[umbral meteor]

obviously you can just that compared to other LE units he isnt that impressive of a damage dealer but obviously enough for any ice weak

[weary spire]

Ye

[umbral meteor]

normal zone

types gonna be unbalanced again if they give fire and water zone since their icons are in game files

[sturdy flower]

normal zone is more likely to come, unironically

[weary spire]

Most of the best LE units were already about as good as they were pre-expansion

Though Cyrus got a notable boost on the Dragon side of things

Was already one of the best ones

[umbral meteor]

more likely than who?

[sturdy flower]

they could just be for fire/water wish

[umbral meteor]

wish icons and zone icons are completely different what

zone icons are in files

[sturdy flower]

the types with terrain and weather

[umbral meteor]

wish icon is like

[umbral meteor]

yea ofc

[sturdy flower]

they are just afraid of normal because it encourages offtyping

and god forbid the casual players realize they don't need every new unit

[umbral meteor]

nothing wrong in encouraging off typing but general community hates it for no clue what reason

[umbral meteor]

yeah

exactly

[timber wren]

okay we’ve been getting more and more off topic in here lately. please keep strategy talk to #poma-lounge or #916852389347196958

conversations centered on how content is evolving in game and how that can help you predict what you need to save for, or what units you dont need, is fine

but this isnt poma lounge 2

[weary spire]

[sturdy flower]

i should show off my gem count so everyone sees I'm not here only for derailing into offtopic

[timber wren]

thats a great hoard youre sitting on

[lofty relic]

As a general guideline :

• flexing savings humbly and encouraging people to save
• talking about imaginary alts or non introduced chars to boost confidence in saving for them
• discussing with someone why X F2P alternative is worth building over current banners because meta is not real

[timber wren]

especially for such a new account

[weary spire]

Just to make it doubly clear w/ what I was originally saying earlier: even more reason to feel comfortable in the free units you have to clear content, and not feel the need for any other limited pairs when these old ones keep getting buffs to keep up

[umbral meteor]

indeed esp the LE's will probably keep on getting the buffs

[weary spire]

Easy saving

[sturdy flower]

if they get moved into permanent content, new players will be able to do 10k csmm second week which is insane

without pulling

[timber wren]

agree, a big hurdle early game is understanding exactly what sort of challenge the game is presenting you and realizing that most of it can be done with what they give you freely

[weary spire]

[timber wren]

which chest talked about a lot previously but its worth rehashing

pulling gacha units becomes a luxury to open up new gameplay options and see your favorite characters excel

[weary spire]

Yeah, the greater range of tools to work with is amazing for newer players, or anyone really. The capabilities of a free roster at this point go pretty far

[timber wren]

it’s really night and day from another gacha i play, where new players are just completely hosed on completing half the content until they get half a dozen meta units

[sturdy flower]

gbf

[umbral meteor]

as f2p friendly like poma are quite rare

[tardy fiber]

New players got it good now, i come from the age which 3* 4* general pool units doesn't have grids 👴

[weary spire]

I can imagine, yeah. It kinda feels awkward when you hear about what's ideal for a team, or what's recommended, and then seeing that you just... literally don't have it or any other free substitutes

[lofty relic]

last gacha i played every event was unique and tailored for current banner characters and only 20% of the roster could substitute
it was very generous in resources to pull, but damn
so yeah PMEX is defo a step up

[weary spire]

But if you want literally anything by this point, you probably already have it to a degree at least

[tardy fiber]

Also every passing VA means more 5* units for newbies to start with...thanks to region tix

[weary spire]

Not that you can't get by with the bare minimum, but it's a lot easier to get the point across that content is clearable with free options when a newbie can visibly see every little convenient piece they need to get by v easily

[weary spire]

Oh yeah, those are a godsend

[lofty relic]

200 unova tickets this month

everybody get a Bianca lessgo, and add that Giovanni on the side

[weary spire]

[umbral meteor]

kalos tickets almost worthless 🙂

[weary spire]

I remember when I was newer and regional tickets were introduced, when we started with the Kanto tickets

I was literally like 0/5 on everything or maybe 1/5 Blue ig

[umbral meteor]

back in 2021

[tardy fiber]

New players after galar VA will start with 1 5* of every region and 1 legendary adventures unit from every region...pretty sure with two of those region units, player can clear daily battle easily...well solgaleo not alola but we got hau from story

[weary spire]

Yeah, how much those tickets helped me is actually pretty crazy, now that I think about it

And when you have everything you need, you can just hold onto them and wait for new units to drop so that you can (probably) get them later on 0 gems spent

I feel like the Kalos VA has to come with a bunch of Kalos units so that... those tickets aren't virtually worthless lmao

Even if we have to hold onto them

[tardy fiber]

Yep when having that much leeway, players can start to pull for faves

[umbral meteor]

yeah hopefully atleast 2 new spotlights

[weary spire]

Also yeah, that's the bare minimum as well

[sturdy flower]

except Alola

Solgaleo has MC curse

[tardy fiber]

Already said about hau directly at that message

[umbral meteor]

can also start with a free kanttrio

from victory road

[sturdy flower]

believe in the kalos CS + VA spotlights

[weary spire]

Don't underestimate rare cache in Lodge as a means of getting either
||I've literally got over 300 from them.|| Crazy that those can be farmed for free slowly over time

[umbral meteor]

and can always reroll for all of them on a new acc which is nuts since its always available

[umbral meteor]

i think CS will be delayed by 3-4 months but anw we shuld get some new spotlights

[sturdy flower]

if Colress was spotlight I believe Shauna will be too, and she's def coming

[umbral meteor]

ye shes not pf material

[tardy fiber]

Yep cannot imagine how kind pomas are when compared to other games. Other games free units kits feels like poop and barely usable

[umbral meteor]

still we have some players going crazy over 5/5 grids and saying the game became p2w

[sturdy flower]

gbf has good free units but behind tens of hours of grind

but it's also one of the kindest mobages

[umbral meteor]

hoping for AZ , malva or xerosic spotlights for arcs

[sturdy flower]

AZ is dubious

for a stupid reason

[umbral meteor]

imagine AZ spotlight ground/fairy/ghost striker

[tardy fiber]

I will be more mad of 5/5 grids if those grids only cost 2-5 energy like power boost grids...but seeing what they cost, i just did not want to be concerned with 5/5 for now

[sturdy flower]

he won't fit in camera view in character upgrade menu

[sturdy flower]

i will be mad if the unit is generic and boring till 5/5 where it gets fun

[tardy fiber]

Not like a unit is unplayable if not 5/5 so i just treat it as something that exists but barely a concern

[umbral meteor]

now we also have free npc units every sc/seasonal event

which is p good tbh

and sensable

[sturdy flower]

is there any santa themed npc?

i only remember the skiing sinnoh trainers

[umbral meteor]

No clue

[tardy fiber]

Well for now all the 5/5 grid units are still playable and usable at 1/5-3/5, so i will worry about it if it does come and not too worried about it when they are still yet to do like that

[umbral meteor]

yea 5/5 is mostly just better rn but before that is still useable

[sturdy flower]

I don't mind it much on strikers, didn't see supports and hate any incentive to get techs higher

just because they make techs more colorful and too many of them, to the point of me wanting one striker per 2 techs (over the period of say 5 months)

messes with my saving intuition

[tardy fiber]

Yep like my 3/5 sshilbert can kill wise entryx2 bug weak lucian, but saw people trying to 5/5 him...for me, he can do his job and thats already good. Better for me to spend the other tech candies to 3/5 my fall iris or djgloria or ssN

[umbral meteor]

its just luxury anw

[sturdy flower]

i will probably get a tech to 3/5 using gems at some point over getting 2 at 1/5

[umbral meteor]

new units wise him and ss wally benifit most from 5/5 so far

but yea

even those dont need it

so its just a luxury

[weary spire]

TL;DR: save gems and resources

[tardy fiber]

I rather have 2 3/5 units than 1 overkill unit

[umbral meteor]

technically its not even overkill

just 1 more rebuff

[weary spire]

Investing heavily in most pairs, especially for anything 5/5 is completely overkill unless they're your favs really

[sturdy flower]

the value of sshilbert will dip the second we get rebuffers for the types

[umbral meteor]

i like ss wally's 5/5 the most

[tardy fiber]

Got cakewalk as well

[sturdy flower]

since 3/3 vs 2/3 is not a big difference

[umbral meteor]

5 rebuffs in one unit would still be valuable

[umbral meteor]

we dont talk abt cakewalk

[sturdy flower]

i meant his 5/5 sorry it kinda ran away

[umbral meteor]

ah

starting end dec he will be able to rebuff all 3 enemies

[tardy fiber]

More if its full force battle

[weary spire]

Not to say it isn't valuable, but they're also rebuffs for strictly on-type

Let's be honest

[umbral meteor]

yeah

[weary spire]

You're blowing them up & it's probably overkill

[sturdy flower]

full force battles coming back from grave

[umbral meteor]

isnt that what poma community loves anw

trying to get type coverages

and complaining if we get a billion dragon types

[tardy fiber]

Still waiting for Regidrago

[weary spire]

Ye I'm saying that in regards to how rebuff on-type means you're already going way further specifically for types you're already beating realistically

[sturdy flower]

i have used my top dragon on type exactly once

[umbral meteor]

lets be real anni raihan shuld have gotten it

[tardy fiber]

Dragon weak? time for ||zerena+ssbrendan+lucas team||

[sturdy flower]

I'm hopeful about Selene and that electric lucario

[weary spire]

Long story short, overkill is overrated when I'm winning and saving my resources

[umbral meteor]

zeraora

[umbral meteor]

well overkill is for fun

nothing else

so

[weary spire]

Ye for sure

[tardy fiber]

5/5 grids are kinda overkill when 3/5 already clears things

[umbral meteor]

in the end its luxury

[umbral meteor]

and for most even 1/5

[weary spire]

It's perfectly fine to play for that fun and if you really like a particular unit as said always basically

[umbral meteor]

yea

[tardy fiber]

Yep

[weary spire]

Just worth making it clear bc for a lot of people, they get the impression that something is a lot more necessary than it actually is

[umbral meteor]

victor 1/5 alr one shotting grass weak

[tardy fiber]

I think most recent units function well at 1/5

[umbral meteor]

indeed they do

[sturdy flower]

supports function the worst at 1/5

but that's in general them being less powercrept

[umbral meteor]

and they also are released quite less

[tardy fiber]

Perfectly balance

[sturdy flower]

you could probably guarantee every support with free gems

[tardy fiber]

Waiting patiently for sycamore and hop support

[sturdy flower]

soon

[umbral meteor]

sycamore probably in 2 months

[tardy fiber]

Hop ex would be a blessing for my gloria...sycamore as well, if they make other fairy faves techs or strikers

Hope that i can reach 7k bp this month, if no support faves on next datamine...i can 3/5 my nita

[tawny cedar]

Praying 30k+ next month

I feel like new year will be a pain this year

[umbral meteor]

probably 30k/month until march

april might be a drop

[dapper kelp]

hello gem zen i have returned

im gonna get a pity

[signal halo]

I never thought I'd be tempted to pull due to a song key

[hardy creek]

dena doesn't want you to know this but you can listen to the songs on yt and save ur gems 🏃🏾‍♀️

[signal halo]

I know, I'm just one of those who likes to have them in game

Which is a very poor place to be in

[tawny dagger]

Listen by staring at the banner screen

[signal halo]

Do you think I haven't?

[south scroll]

You can put the music on youtube and play with the game muted

[signal halo]

I can try, but song keys have had this evergrowing hook on me

Though I haven't pulled any pair specifically due to it yet

Bede was the closest until SS N

I'd save a pity to lussamine if she had the song key to the ultra necrozma theme

I likely won't have huge urges to pull N due to the song key alone, since I can't see that kyurem not being a clunky mess to use

And due to having my luckiest month so far

Walked out of it with 3 faves and 4 other pairs I wanted to have

[maiden kayak]

just listen in youtube

lol

[sand crown]

This how I cope with Lysandre

[lunar topaz]

Gem zen I’m so torn I really want the Lyra and Kris eeveelution alts they’re easily two of my fav characters but I don’t like going below 2 pities and I didn’t have 2 pities at the start of the month idk if I should go for them or wait for their mysterious return cause they’re apparently in the Sawyer and Rachel situation

[hardy creek]

I'd wait to see the banner before deciding

given that they're not proper alts, I have a feeling it might potentially be discounted somehow???? so I'd wait to see what rates are and what the cost is before deciding for sure if ur skipping or not

[lunar topaz]

Alright ):

[chrome nest]

I’m also torn

[fallen path]

Wait it out Richu

[timber wren]

the gem cost is known from datamine but we dont know the rates

from absolutelypm on twitter

[tardy fiber]

Oh still 3k gems even for non units

[fallen path]

It being non EX also means maybe there’s a future rerun

But there wasn’t an EX upgrade for Rachel and Sawyer so I could be wrong too

[lunar topaz]

I hope once we’re done with like base 3-4* gacha grids they increase the Ex rate cause there’s to many pairs without one

[tardy fiber]

Kinda sad seeing noland and bugsy without . They already got nerfed sync damage due to having mega, now they have no too

[timber wren]

the question is what are the featured rates, are scout points lower, how often will they rerun

[hardy creek]

oh I didn't see that the banner is really full price, huh???? we will be praying on it's downfall 😌💅🏾

[tough oriole]

If they have 1.5% rates each it deserves to fall down

[fallen path]

They’re testing new banners and seeing what sticks

[chrome nest]

Ultra fairs with 0.5 chance for the unit

[fallen path]

[lunar topaz]

I really just want kris and Lyra as their favs even as they’re true alts to@me

[tough oriole]

It’s here until dec i suppose

Next month could have an mf

[tardy fiber]

But the event name eevee day kinda sus, yep probably wait till next datamine news

If eevee day is like pomas day, it will repeats

[fallen path]

Richu has never cared about the master fairs lol

[tough oriole]

Not even the ss johtrio?

[fallen path]

Is there an actual event or just the banners for Eevee day

[tough oriole]

There’s an event

[fallen path]

Those were favs for Richu

[tough oriole]

Exactly

[lunar topaz]

Johtrio and Zerena are the only ones I’ve cared about lel

[tough oriole]

There could always be another mc mf

[fallen path]

Calem and Greninja

[lunar topaz]

Even if with a unova or hoenn MC MF I prolly wouldn’t pull as even tho I like hoenn protags I’m still not as attached to them

[lunar topaz]

very easy skip!

I had a dream Calem was added to trainer lodge but that dream also had MR with a new sync move animation where Incin and him basically tag teamed on their opponent so that was weird lel

[fallen path]

I knew you would say that lol

[timber wren]

i would go farther to say wait until datamine to decide on the banner, maybe we see another eevee-like banner next month that gives you an idea of what to expect, or proper alts for kris and lyra

[lunar topaz]

Alright I will 🦑

maybe, I have very bad self control when it comes to favs

[fallen path]

Yeah let’s see what December has in store

And then we have new years units

maybe we can get those new years tickets again

[timber wren]

someone at dena clearly has a soft spot for kris getting her one of the best support kits in the game and also the biggest launch unit glow up ever

[lunar topaz]

The Kris Dev as the feh community would call it

(People think there are character specific developers making characters either as broken as possible or as weak as possible lel)

[tardy fiber]

Kris getting buffed twice, an buff and power boost buff

[lunar topaz]

Kris has a very cool kit I just wish she was a support lel

[tardy fiber]

SsKris support

Next month you can team both together

Suicune + feraligatr

Might can do 3 kris if got her eevee day alt

[lunar topaz]

I’m glad she has role variety but wish she could help support hau lel

[broken mulch]

I Can’t do this unless I’m on a computer

MiniPlayer doesn’t work here for some reason

[broken mulch]

Also this LMAO

[grand bramble]

I would never chase someone for a theme... I can listen to it anywhere I want

[broken mulch]

Neat but I can’t

Not without ripping an mp3 off anyway

[lunar topaz]

I use the Musi app which I believe is only on apple devices and I play Poma song keys I don’t have there lel

I’ve done it for CIris Diantha and Lusamine

i am specifically waiting for diantha rerun where she came out with ||CIris because i want CIris and need diantha lel||

[summer goblet]

I can finally combine both SS Red and OG Red together to utilize the SE

Though OG Red with SST Red is just as good

[tardy fiber]

Im not sure, the only teams i am excited for are the bp master unit MC team and djgloria+gloria in the same team...gloria and hop could really use that def down debuffs

Probably better for you guys that chase certain characters...as i only chase pokemons like only 2/4 stevens are faves and 3/5 N are faves and not all N are good together in same team

Well deoxys defense form give a bunch of stats at once to annisteven so might be a buff as well

[broken mulch]

I don’t think any of the N’s worth together haha

[tardy fiber]

AnniN and ssN might work

[fallen path]

yeah they would work

[tardy fiber]

They both noble roar and have same multipliers

[valid flint]

🤨

[umbral meteor]

They are limited spotlights

[lunar topaz]

Sadge

[maiden kayak]

dont even support that banner

blasphemous ttm

[lunar topaz]

But kris and Lyra ):

[maiden kayak]

eww pairing

giving them support for that banner gives dena more urge to churn out more such ridiculous banners

[fallen path]

Honesty it’s clear bait

I don’t want you to do it richu, but it’s your gems

[maiden kayak]

If you throw your gems in that banner, you are killing gems

you dont want to do that to gems

[thorny pelican]

I mean

it comes down to if they're your favorites

If they're not then not investing in this banner is a no-brainer

Likewise you can try to take a metaperceptive approach to the banner's existence, and what it would mean for you long-term for your roster if you had these Eevee evolution sync pairs at your disposal

Would something in the future opt any excuse for spending for them? Would investing in these sync pairs provide an advantage outside of the standard benefits you would receive in battles?

If the long term doesn't feel worth it, there's no need to invest since the short term is painfully obvious these sync pairs won't provide enough of an advantage

But above all, if they are your favorite characters or favorite pokemon, then they are worth the investment

You just really need to understand what makes a sync pair a favorite in your own definition

I personally would be high investing in these banners if Clair or Lopunny would be an option

No EX? Bad grids? Weird passives? I wouldn't care - Clair or Lopunny are my absolute favorite characters in this game - I would hard invest for them

[lunar topaz]

They are my favs like they’re easily the 2 favs I’m willing to go for the most over anyone else of the month had they released another fav this month

[thorny pelican]

It's all about comparisons at that point then - how high up on your favorite list are they? Your absolute highest favorite is Calem, right?

What if Calem would come out on this banner - would you invest on it? What if he comes out as a Holiday Sync Pair for December? What if he gets a Master Pairing in January for the Kalos VA?

[maiden kayak]

“over anyone else of the month”

this just tells me

[lunar topaz]

Calem actually isn’t my highest fav lel

[maiden kayak]

u are pulling for the sake of it

[lunar topaz]

The johtrio are my highest faves

Then it’s Serena and the Calem

Those are my top 5

[maiden kayak]

im getting very sus vibes now that u said that

[lunar topaz]

I meant if they released any other favs from this month they would’ve had higher priority

[thorny pelican]

The issue you're having to deal with is "What is coming to put me in a bad position for December, January, and Febuary?"

And unfortunately these next three months are going to be tough

[maiden kayak]

u should have said “ top favs of all time”

but u said otherwise

so i think they are not really your favs tbh

[lunar topaz]

Last year outside of November December January February were big skips for me last year

[maiden kayak]

and come on

u can get eeveeutions in main games

dont get why u wanna get those with cringe pairings

no EXes

No alt outfits

whack pairing

[lunar topaz]

I don’t really care about the eevee’s I care more about the characters I am perfectly fine without them having Ex do I wish Lyra had Marill instead ye but I really can’t skip out on my favs 🐴

[maiden kayak]

[tardy fiber]

This is true like i candy my bp master units for that reason, they got no also mediocre grids but its a fave. It didn't stop me to 3/5 Regirock

[maiden kayak]

still sussy af

[fallen path]

sorry richu, i'm with aqua on this one

[lunar topaz]

I want these units not even for meta

I want these units as they’re two favs I cannot skip

Kris is even in my super hyperbolic would whale for tier 🐴🐴🐴

That image is from a while ago but none of it has changed

[tardy fiber]

But at least wait for datamine, the banner still there...eevee day have EBE but its not that hard that warrants a pull fast, so can at least see what's coming before pulling and who knows that by knowing that would make your mind at ease

[lunar topaz]

I really want Lyra and Kris and just for the characters and I really want to use these new ones I have all 6 johtrio Ex and I’m definitely going to 20/20 these Lyra and kris alts as they’re my highest priority favs

[fallen path]

i mean

its your gems

you realize worst case scenario if you are extremely unlucky is that it takes 36.6k x2 to get a copy of both right

[lunar topaz]

That’s the thing to I wish I already had 2 pities going into this month itd make me feel more comfortable spending for them I really want them and even tho I don’t like this banner style I can’t bear the thought of skipping out on favs the do not have any sign of returning in an F2P way

[fallen path]

and then if diantha comes the next month

well, no diantha for you

[hardy creek]

I like lucas but unfortunately cannot justify supporting a banner as lazy and greedy as this, personally

[fallen path]

its a money grab, richu

[lunar topaz]

I’m not attached to lucas but I’m very much attached to kris and lucas

[fallen path]

but you do you

[lunar topaz]

That’s entirely what feh is and I still play it

[tardy fiber]

I will grab any Legendaries, Mythicals, UBs even if they didn't have any ...i did invest in Oak and 5 BP master units, but i doubt they will add more of my faves without EX other than BP master units. Depends on how much your faves matter to you actually, we can only give advice but in the end...its your own call

[lunar topaz]

I didn’t Ex base Kris or Lyra 150 them for nothing they’re two characters I really do like and maybe they are giving me fear if I don’t get them now I’ll never see them return in a matter I can’t get them but I am fine on skipping out on a character or Pokémon I like next month if they are not as mysterious on when they’ll rerun, I skipped SCSonia and even with dawn and victor I still regret missing her same with OGDiantha and I have to miss these units again in attempt to get two higher priority favs it’s something I am willing to risk

Knowing Diantha or SCSonia can actually return in a F2P matter makes me more confident in skipping them over these two

[tardy fiber]

So the best way is wait for datamine, that banner is still there and you know what came out for December

[fallen path]

tbh, if you have told yourself that you have to get those two units, we can't do anything lol

[lunar topaz]

They’re favorites I am extremely dedicated to them I don’t use Calem or anything as a meme just cause I 20/20’d kris before her ex was even announce because they’re Pokémon and characters I love a lot and I grew up with protags hold a much more special place as those are the characters you play as and especially in Johto and in Kalos they interact with your character a lot more than any other Pokémon game even if Kris was only available in Crystal I still adore her design and what they’ve done with her character I can’t miss favs that I’ll have to potentially pay for even if it’s for a cash grab banner it doesn’t even look like many will support it just because the units aren’t even that mega l influential they released 3 banners of much more popular and meta units this month and I hate missing out on my favs I still have my goal of 5/5’ing all my favs with candies and these two chars give me more fear than had I missed any of the master fair johtrio

I Play this game to use a variety of my favs even when they’re not the go to picks it’s how I am not just in this game but others as well im extremelystubborn as well because I will force myself to clear content with my favs even if the odds are against me it’s why I do a lot of the stuff I do with this game

[fallen path]

i'm just gonna say this: kalos villain arc is next. it might be january. it might be feb (maybe not since its 3.5 anni). it might be march

you like calem, you like serena, and you like diantha.

it might be brutal

[umbral meteor]

its gonna be january tho

since run up will be part 2

so p1 probably mid jan

[tardy fiber]

I didn't need to wait for long for sycamore lets goooo

[umbral meteor]

yeah

[fallen path]

exactly

its way too close for richu

january is the worst case scenario lol

[umbral meteor]

yea its probably close like in about 2 months

[tardy fiber]

I just need that EX boost to justify syncing with sycamore first

[umbral meteor]

i only sync with supports in LG so anw would still be useful

[lunar topaz]

I’ll still have a months worth of saving of December I don’t see them putting any chars I like there and if Kalos arc is the next one Calem being paired with greninja would be the easiest option for me to skip, Diantha I could see her getting an alt and at the same time not she’s not popular enough to warrant it and she’s not plot relevant despite her one interaction with Lysandre , Serena already has her SS alt that’s a masterfair so I don’t even know what they’d give her I don’t see her being popular enough to warrant the “Cynthia treatment” and she doesn’t have almost anyone to be paired with as Kalos legends are non existent and are all pretty much taken I don’t see them@giving her Chesnaught either

[lean mango]

I only have 2 favs on my list for Kalos, tho one is a definite pull for me which is Lysandre

[umbral meteor]

sylveon exists for serena

and diantha would probably get an alt since she can get goodra

[fallen path]

waiting till datamine doesn't cost you anything

[umbral meteor]

chesnaught is also possible for serena if shauna doesnt get it anw

serena is the carry for kalos so

[fallen path]

[lunar topaz]

That’s more an anime thing I don’t see happening

[tardy fiber]

Im waiting for shiny hoopa unbound lysandre and volcanion sycamore

[fallen path]

laughs in Ash and Pikachu

[umbral meteor]

if its popular because of anime it wont happen?

huh

whats the logic

[lunar topaz]

Yes but Serena’s character in the anime and in the games are completely different

It doesn’t make sense to me

[umbral meteor]

why does it have to make sense

[lunar topaz]

Why’d they change her personality for one alt

[umbral meteor]

are you saying iris and naganadel makes sense

why does it have to change personality

[lunar topaz]

No but that’s a seasonal alt they don’t have to

[umbral meteor]

its just a gen6 eevelution paired with gen6 female protag lmao

what does it have to do with "personality"

and anw the carries for other regions being red , blue , cynthia , dawn , may , steven , n did get alts so its highly likely serena does too

while for alola being lillie and galar leon/gloria

whether they give her sylveon or chesnaught or smth else obv thats their choice but its highly likely she gets smth

[maiden kayak]

watch SS serena, Calem and diantha have mfs

[umbral meteor]

lmao not happening

[maiden kayak]

[lunar topaz]

If Calem gets greninja I will not pull

[umbral meteor]

Its not a june arc

unless its in june

[lunar topaz]

They’d have to be if they want those units to sell

[maiden kayak]

does it matter?

[lunar topaz]

Kalos is not popular enough for it

[umbral meteor]

dont you like calem

[maiden kayak]

dena always betray our expectations

up down left right

[lunar topaz]

I do but I utterly despise greninja

[umbral meteor]

i mean i dont see them doing 3mfs in jan + 2 NY seasonals + some mid mth pfs or 3mfs in feb during mid month when the month alr has palentines also

1mf is possible tho

if they even do it

unova and hoenn were just 3pfs + 2spotlights

[tardy fiber]

I hope not much faves for kalos VA because only Volcanion left...well i won't mind some shinies but not many of them

[umbral meteor]

i dont even think they would do volcanion

[tardy fiber]

[umbral meteor]

lmao its a very hated mythical

[lunar topaz]

There’s Magearna if they want to count that

[maiden kayak]

they will

[umbral meteor]

magearna is gen7

[maiden kayak]

but probably a seasonal

[umbral meteor]

yeah

or SC

[tardy fiber]

Magearna different gen

[lunar topaz]

I thought she was 6

[umbral meteor]

no its 7

[lunar topaz]

Because of the Volcanion movie

[umbral meteor]

latias latios are in johto movie

they are gen3 mons not 2

mega mewtwo y was in unova movie

so

[lunar topaz]

Latios and latias I didn’t know were in Gen 2 but mega mewtwo Y I did know

[tardy fiber]

Ho-oh in first anime episode

[lunar topaz]

I always associate Magearna with 6 even tho it wasn’t available there because Magearna feels super odd in the regions

[lunar topaz]

True

[umbral meteor]

lillie had a shiny magearna in anime

[tardy fiber]

Gladion have shiny nihilego

[umbral meteor]

He doesnt even suit nihilego no clue why he caught it

[tardy fiber]

For family, that nihilego pretend as Lillie to comfort mohn

[lunar topaz]

I don’t see myself regretting going after Lyra or Kris even if I have to miss one of them from pity it won’t put me into that poor of a situation as I already have a back up one Di I think it’s a scummy banner yes but a fav is a fav and I just don’t see myself skipping out on them

[lean mango]

As long as it's Poison I will obtain it

[tardy fiber]

Like marnie toxicroak

[lean mango]

... yes

[umbral meteor]

maybe SC lusamine gets it

[lunar topaz]

And I don’t know why now instead of before it’s being out into question wether I truly like these characters and not when they were all master fairs this banner might be scummy but I never saw anyone tell me no to my favs then I don’t care if the banner is the worst in terms of rates if these are horrible I’d still@go after them I don’t see them doing something I like for next month and even then i can wait for Datamine

[lean mango]

As long as Lillie doesn't get it I'm happy

[umbral meteor]

lillie has nothing to do with a nihilego so

[tough oriole]

Anime

[lean mango]

mmm

Anime

[umbral meteor]

gladion catches it what

lillie catches magearna

not nihilego

[tough oriole]

She still got almost kidnapped by it

[umbral meteor]

lol

i think she has a lot better mons to get tho whether its nebby , dawn wings or magearna

[tough oriole]

If Lusa has Phero just cuz they look alike, then Lillie can have Nihilego

[umbral meteor]

oh and vulpix

[lean mango]

She befriended it didn't she? Also she is dressed like one in her first outfit

[umbral meteor]

thats alr 4 mons for lillie lmao

[umbral meteor]

No clue

[lunar topaz]

Stolkhom syndrome pair real

[lean mango]

I just don't want her to get it

Give me my poison parasite

[umbral meteor]

i dont think she would

[umbral meteor]

[tough oriole]

Then who? Lusamine’s the only person I can see getting it

[umbral meteor]

Ye she could

rock zone

[tough oriole]

Or give it to klara or smth because that’s how alts work in this game

[umbral meteor]

Let klara enter the game first lol

[lean mango]

I feel like all of the Aether family having a chance, Lusamine because Lusamine, Lillie because she looks like it and Gladion because anime

[umbral meteor]

Lillie looks like nihilego? Eh

[tough oriole]

I couldn’t think of any popular poison specialists
Maybe Brock?

[umbral meteor]

nah they have way better options than brock lol

i think it should be lusamine tho

SC guzma got buzzwole

[tough oriole]

According to the game, the best option is to give a pokémon to some random character who’s somewhat popular

[lean mango]

Anime literally hints that Nihilego looks like Lillie's first outfit

[tardy fiber]

Probably selene, elio, lillie, gladion all have alts and tapus for alola VA

[umbral meteor]

i dont think gladion will

if they keep on going for 3pfs for arcs

like hoenn and unova

[umbral meteor]

oh?

[tough oriole]

I’ve kinda liked the recent 3 pf 2 spotlight model for VAs

[umbral meteor]

its less stressful but also very rushed

[tardy fiber]

More spotlights is always a win

[tough oriole]

I feel horrible for whales who pull for every unit, this month there’s what, 8 pairs?

[umbral meteor]

6 banners but 8 pairs yes

[lean mango]

Kinda wanna spoil the image

[tardy fiber]

Seeing sinnoh VA rerun without Sinnoh VA banners feels bad

[umbral meteor]

lmao

[tough oriole]

Fr tho that’s cruel

[tardy fiber]

I feel bad for comforting people before that they can skip ssdawn and sscyrus before to later pull them during double featured banner on sinnoh VA rerun

[tough oriole]

Do people think that alola va will have another lillie alt?

[umbral meteor]

why it wouldnt

[lean mango]

probably

[umbral meteor]

she literally carries the region

[tardy fiber]

Sygna suit Lillie still unused

[tough oriole]

Ugh there are too many lillie alts, i still need to catch up on 2 of them

[umbral meteor]

shes most popular alolan character and one of the most popular in whole franchise

[umbral meteor]

Only 3 are limited

[tough oriole]

“Only”

[thorny pelican]

I'm ready for these huge bait banners;

New Holiday Banners (2)
Holiday Rerun Banners (6)
Potential new Gen Pool addition (1)
Potential new Masterfair (1)
End-of-Year Rerun Banners (???)
"New" New Years Banner (2)
New Years Rerun Banners (4)
(Likely) Kalos VA Pokefair (2)
(Likely) Kalos VA Masterfair (1)
New Palentines Banners (2)
Palentines Rerun Banners (4)
Anniversary 3.5 Units (2)

That's at least 988,200 worth of bait units coming out

[umbral meteor]

i mean they came in gaps of like 8 months or smth

anni 3.5 - 2?

lol

[thorny pelican]

I bet DeNA will be that aggressive

[umbral meteor]

also does anyone pull on 0.333% rerun seasonal banners

[umbral meteor]

2.5 was 3

[thorny pelican]

People wanted Caitlin this month

[umbral meteor]

3.5 being 2 is funny

lol caitlin?

random

[tough oriole]

I’ve done 0.5 twice before. Doesn’t matter too much when you already expect to pity

[thorny pelican]

1.5 was Leon and 0.5 was Red so I'm doin' averages here

[umbral meteor]

just do 3

its trios now anw

[lean mango]

I pitied the Super Fall banner and I say it was worth the faves I missed 🧍

[tough oriole]

Where’s the 2nd anni rerun mfs

Oops

[umbral meteor]

Never rerun

[thorny pelican]

No you can ping me I like being pinged

[lean mango]

[tardy fiber]

Luckily i didn't need to chase any reruns, so that list was already cut by half

[thorny pelican]

MF reruns at End of Year specials

[lunar topaz]

You have 980K?? I wonder if itll go to 1 Mil or cap out

[tough oriole]

But i have 73k gems with their name on it

[thorny pelican]

heck no that's crazy

I've got at least two gems

[lean mango]

The one unit I still have on the top of my rerun list is Anni N so

[umbral meteor]

safe to expect 16 new limited units from end nov-end mar as per my average

[tardy fiber]

Chest reaching cap for gems while i only reach cap for sync orbs

[umbral meteor]

with 6 being seasonals

3 likely anni pokefairs