#Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)
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Cynthia can be easily replaced by Skyla though
I still feel bitter about him not being a pokefair
his alt will be, for sure!
I'll skip his alt, however
Pulling rule
The only alt they could do that I'd pull is also spotlight material
The Alola one
This rule likely won't work for me in the long run, it prevents me from pulling way too much stuff that would solve my frustrations with my roster
SS Morty, SC Ingo or a better bug damage dealer, SS red or any fire type that does better than base silver
Most fairy type pairs, the one relevant poison pair who also happened to land on a fave
Likely any decent ice pair too, all the ghost support, since my fave ghost pair doesn't have a grid. Anything with a ceiling higher than Bea, which includes another fave pair in SC Guzma
The list goes on and I wouldn't be as salty if I could pull colress without having to go through a 7% rates banner on top of having to tame my urge of candying him on spot while I likely won't ever see a pair that needs that ever increasing pile of candies
Because none in my fave list that follow the rules do
At most I'll need two strike candies on Cynthia and I'm halfway through my 4th
Like, I needed 5 resets just to get the skyla tm mpr and lose the run to a miss click, when getting genesect would just save me not only the hassle of that EB but also have it so I wouldn't have to put up with alder ever again. I don't know why, but he just won't work for me, despite being in the top 3 of strongest bug types in the game
So how do I bring myself back to zen when I already have a thing against alder and I see him missing 3 hyper beams on a single run?
you said it yourself already, that you’d be risking 36.6k to complete a stage that nets you 300 gems
my best bug option is ex lusamine who. needs help, badly. but i have fun clearing with her and when i don’t feel line putting myself thru that i off type bc we have so many good options for off typing
just close the game and forgo 300 gems if its too hard
I'd need to close the game for 11 days
Since the notification doesn't go away
And again, it isn't just the stage as much as it is my spite for using alder
The exclamation mark stays there even if you don’t complete that part
Hilda has a similar appeal compared to silver
huh
u just endure for 10 min
and do your dailies
and done deal
not like its a hard thing to do
Every time I have to use alder I'll remember he failed to beat an on type on region challenge, despite being like one of the best bug dps in the game
You play a different game when you save gems
It's not so much about what you can or can't complete, it's about overcoming the pre-defined set of rules that someone else makes for you that tries to trap your mind into thinking you "need" or "should" have something to overcome something else
I particularly hate falling short with him because alder is a character I like and volcarona is one of my favourite bug type Pokemon
And on top of that I'm told over and over that 1/5 non ex alder is enough and I can't accept it when I see hyper beam missing 3 times in a single run
12 gauge
Doing nothing
I never used hydro pump in the main games
Guess why
That... might be a you problem then.
I'm someone who replayed Colress Part 2 over 50 times to get SS Elesa to give me more than three Breathtaking! MPRs so I could defeat him with a 1/5 Hilda EX
I needed to replay 5 times to get skyla to give me her tm mpr once
If repeating battles isn't something that can fit your schedule or patience then you might need to reconsider how you're enjoying the game what what makes it worthwhile
yea i dont understand why the hell u use alder for corless when its clearly not the way
im assuming its corless
I'm not using it for colress
since theres acc drop
He just missed 3 times at 90% accuracy
im pretty sure rosa has no acc drop
Yes
then try again
That's the whole point of it
SS Elesa gives Accuracy, hopefully she is an option for you
alder is such a luxury
I like burgh much more than alder simply in virtue of him not missing his move every time I play
And I'd happily clear it with burgh if I didn't need 5 resets to get a 40% chance reset to happen once
honestly
u give up too fast
5 resets is nothing
complain for what
just do again
I didn't do just five resets
I had many more uncounted ones
I just found particularly tilting
aqua telling them to get good and try harder is not helpful
That I had to go through an event less likely than getting a master fair in a single multi just because skyla felt like it
you can get better help in #1009557516369281075 but please do know that its okay to walk away from it and forego the 300 gems
this is still not helpful, please cut it out
Yes, I'm just asking how I convince myself that alder isn't a failure after missing 3 hyper beams in a single run against Rosa, with the usual 90% accuracy
im annoyed
Because that puts me in a situation where I just wanna go and get SS Hilbert even if I skip the EB
and irritated by this
What was your team
Lillie will die once sync is out
So
Ingo, skyla and alder
only ss morty and scjasmine can tank
you could grid alder for acuracy nodes
i would drop ingo for ss elesa if you have her
Yeah I used that exact team
Ingo was mainly to cut off the Regen and buff alder's crit so he can hyper beam asap
If Ingo’s 3/5 you can just have sandy pep rally max speed
alder doesnt have accuracy tiles at 1/5
2/5
Oh still I think it’s a passive
yeah its his base passive
Do you have any of them EX’d
Skyla and ingo
Yeah that’s good
I could also EX alder
skyla must be 3/5
Shame you miss out on Ingo Adrenaline but I stopped using Sandstorm after a few attempts
i still think ss elesa is a better candidate
2/5 gets adrenaline irrc
cos of her tm
3/5 EX Skyla 1/5 EX Alder 3/5 EX Ingo
I'm unsure if my elesa has vigilance
I think Adrenaline’s a 3/5 10 energy node but can’t remember
u have alder
Alder isn't ex yet, but I have power ups
just wipe it out before rosa use crit all
Adrenaline is 2/5
Team worked for me pretty easily
alder has the ability to do that
You can wipe Rosa out fast like on SpA All or just after
Especially with support EX syncs
pretty sure this will wipe out rosa like a vampire cockroach
I can only get 2 support EXes if I drop 20 power ups flat on elesa
I have 58, so still enough to spare
i would use ss elesa as tanker to activate the evasion passive
I EX’d Alder today to make the fight easier but I don’t think it mattered that much
i dont think its ideal to EX striker in this extreme battle
Stats didn’t make a significant difference and sides just gradual heal from sync
cos all opponents has diff type weakness
Still an EX I wanted to do anyways so I’m happy
it doesnt make it easier
unless u can activate nuke multiplier
for eg sp def drop from burgh smarty pants
Sides heal from it very quickly if it’s 1/5
tough skin makes it so his aoe sync will do very little
yea
Yeah
tough skin is the annoying one
youd be EXing him just for the spa bump on hyper beam
the biggest threat is actually hilda if anything
I like Alder hyper beam because his SpA stat is already a lot higher than the other ones with that move
aoe EQ
Actually alder can do chip dmg to hilda first
and estimate your damage to kill just before rosa use crit all
by the time hilda is already chipped off quite abit
nate is whatever
not really a big threat
Seems too dangerous to me
with aoe swift
alder might not need that
but burgh needs that to maximise the turns
but of cos
Oh wait Alder can kill Rosa quite quickly I get what you mean
this is pretty difficult to grasp for beginner
its really maxing your brainpower
like
i ended the battle with like 8 sync boosts
thats how insane turn maximisation is needed
and it was clutch
I think I had 7 or something
yea it was really high sync boost count
I couldn't ever go that long because skyla always stops at 3 potions per run at most
That if she doesn't also skip the tm mpr
Which she did 9 times in a row
Don’t reset for Skyla TM
skyla has 2 potion mpr
That's as likely as getting a master fair with 300 gems
ingo also have potion too
Just use sandstorm after the second sync cycle
Yeah
and evasion boost
Should I dump 17 boosts to make her Ex?
Also my elesa is 1/5
If you want to up to you
Yes
Oh no TM refreshes?
iirc
At 1/5
tm mp refresh is 1/5
just doesnt have ridicure
Ah k
but use her to tank and heal up with skyla potion
well, you know, i did it with Alder... 1/5...
not like copies will change much since they rely on spak debuffs which rosa is immune too
i wouldn't use Ingo in your setup, he's a liability
I didn't feel like she was a particularly good tank, since in that stage she pretty much never dodges due to the accuracy buffs
is your Skyla EX?
are you running an Unbending grid on her?
My elesa is 130
rosa debuffs defence?
i dont remember rosa battle has debuff
wont lucian die lol
he will last till spdef is at -6
i mean its a good idea tho
yes, but he will die to Swift before Rosa syncs
lol rip
rather, before Rosa would sync since Alder finishes her off before
so basically need quad queue
and then it's not worth to keep him alive since every other move is AOE
i kinda learned to quad queue very well so
but Alder can kill her before she syncs, as long as he doesn't miss even once
without syncing himself
towards the end hyper beams hit for 13k
that's my Hop 
well you know, one run I missed 4 hyper beams in a row
I got 3 misses
which is why u use ss elesa
Yes, but she isn't dodging
Skyla doesn't refresh and from time to time, alder decides to miss twice on a single run
Not anymore
With elesa, but then I swapped him missing with her taking all the hits
if you have regular Elesa
Lodge Elesa might be a good choice there for a support
- raises sp. def for the whole team, complementing Skyla
- raises accuracy, helps Alder setup turn earlier
- activates bug theme skill of his(actually electric) - lowering speed might prove useful for when only sides are remaining, lowering their attack frequency
granted that you have good enough luck to max her in lodge in 11 days
mine is lvl 30 already, should be no problem
isn't lodge elesa electric
support
damm you guys lucky
Just like steven/deoxys, i'm very tempted for hilbert/genesect for the multiple utilities
Do you want us to persuade you not to
nope. just expressing my thoughts
Ah
he covers the most common types though
most common as in "most likely we are going to get a pokemon in them"
He does, yes. But my Ice and Bug could use another pair
yeah, but for ice he can't really sync
He'd mainly be used for rebuffs on the type
that's where I see his utility
Not so much dmg
he's fine for bug, but his innate sync multiplier is annoying to cap
it's a 4 bar move
However, I'll be holding until datamine
correct decision
Unless it's a master fair, I usually just hold till datamines
pokefairs I heavily weight the pros/cons
weigh*
unless if it's elesa
Hilbert has a conflict of interest in his kit
he could be a great debuffer, but it's a waste of his potential
so i'd rather have an unit like Dawn who focuses more on that one thing
I wish Anni N reran 
3.5 anni is possible
That wouldn’t help me for this eb string
Almost gave into weakness for Genesect today but the urge has passed
good
Yes, or at the very least, wait until datamine
Me too.... That 5 type coverage is really unique to me.... but I'll wait... I need to focus for Holiday leon
well my plan will be to dallie and wait out the month of Nov
and see if there is anything great next month like a powerful mf
I don't care much for him, but I am a big fan of Genesect. Also, the utility is unique however.... the 5/5 business is on my bad side and I'm not willing to make that investment
that's a fair point, its best to wait till datamine to see if you want something more
Or beyond. By December you have to start thinking half-anni
There's also no real reason to 5/5 any new unit with 5/5 unlocked tbh
The only interesting 5/5 imo are on older units
Like Zekrom and Lysandre
Certain units I'd actually candy if they got the type of boost Zekrom got for example
Hilberts definitely a meta temptation pull for me. I dont have any rebuff units yet and hes a 5-in-one for that
Albeit awkwardly
Going 5/5 now is a move I'd make only if you got extremely luck on the banner
his rebuff is very limited in that it can only be used on-type, which he should crush comfortably anyways
His rebuff is useful only if used as a gauge machine and debuffer, which rarely happens
i actually skipped all half anni units despite starting on it, because they were tailored to players playing for a longer period of time (i don't consider the MF part of half anni)
There will be MFs between now and half-anni as it is
So if December comes and goes without any, I'm not sure what to think
I'm kinda on edge about next VA
Will they really drop it on February again?
man if there is no mf for December
It's a really bad way to streak from Dec to half anni
then i have e reason to go pull for Hilda and Hilbert
i already had to ditch Brendan and May for anni
We'll just have to wait and see
Dec having Xmas, Jan with nyears, start of VA, Feb with P2 of VA, pals and pre half anni...
yep
Would be yikes
its all about being selective
Yeah
There is no way you can keep up with the onslaught, just gotta be picky
unless you are a whale
But I've been selective a lot
Well....yes
But I already know I'm scouting a NY unless both are good (then I'd skip for next year's rerun)
And I know I'm going for palentines rerun
Also if ice zone drops for Xmas, I have a bet to follow
I really hope they don't drop in my kalos faves too
That would be just terrible
December's going to be loaded because it usually is
yep
is it?
december has had pretty mid units tbh
we got celesa too and sonia
so spotlights? nice
plus HLeon and HNessa
(well celesa is pokefair i know)
oh yeah forgot Grimsley exist in December and he is great
I expect Hisui for January
mad hopium but i hope you're right 
i just want them to confirm we do get hisui at some point
just please no pokemon go professors or something
Lmao honestly I would never pull for them
But if it means cross promo I'd be for it because we need all the help we can get when TPCi barely acknowledges we exist
("we" being Pokemon Masters)
man so sad that Pokemon Masters are on the minority still
its one of the most innovative game we seen in a while
from a lore perspective
Cuz nobody knows the game exists cuz it gets no promo. And the promo these days is trash
The promo for this game used to be so flippin awesome
The trailers and stuff
totally
need something like a web anime
similar to Pokemon Evolution
and Pokemon husui sereis
The funny thing is that almost anything is good promo for Masters
This game is pure fanservice
If you love Pokemon you'll love PoMa
better fanservice than Pokemon Journeys for sure
call me crazy, but i actually enjoy the battling mechanics more than the main line games
Ur not crazy tbh
one thing Pokemon Journey lacks is side characters interacting each other that is not Ash
yeah same here
felt more like the anime battle that we all grew up with
PoMa is a way more ambitious and extensive crossover experience for sure
That's what keeps me hooked tbh it's so fun to see the characters interact and I agree the battles are fun
totally agree
I understand the argument it's repetitive but still fun for short bursts imo
why can't Pokemon Journeys can execute half as decent as Pokemon Masters
If ur finding it repetitive maybe you just play too much xD
yeah true
I know it isn't feasible to their model but my goodness, a crossover mainline game
The other gacha game I play people want to start a gem zen channel there omg
what lol
I never expected to see the day of gem zen spreading across games I’m so happy about this information
that's crazy man 
Hold on.... People from other gacha games never save recourses?
Having a channel dedicated to saving is a rare sight
Maybe because of the rates... But the most important thing is saving for guaranteed
Fehs rates aren’t good it’s 3*% for focus
But the same rate for off focus
And pity is behind a $9 paywall most players have
Some banners aren’t guaranteed lol
You can save a bajillion currency but if your luck is bad you’re never getting what you want lol
Correct
Just on the recent banners I tried going after 2 favs didn’t get either sadge
yea... I dont like that kind of game which gives you like that
Feh has been healing in recent times which is an extreme rarity still not very good tho lel
Its impossible for me to save in feh bc its so easy to get to that games equivalent of scout points
You get like 2 per month
Make sure to get your Otherworldly Event missions done if you haven't!
Tonight is also the last night to harvest your Halloween Loot from the Extra Exhibition in Trainer's Lodge
When I say Halloween Loot I just mean the extra lodge pickups from exhibition
Excabitions?
I hope they give us the remaining material automatically if we don’t collect the minute before reset
If I was DeNA
I wouldn't 
Too busy devoting my company time to punish leakers and make Lillie Alts
We can use the same trainer in a team from next update we need 15 Lillie Alts
About that…
The multipliers from this event were way to low…
Yeah it was a nightmare earning for this event
Barely got everything and damned some other items
I cleared everything except the lv110 and 120 uncap materials
Bless tech candies
I have to wait for them
You shouldn't be that far behind, but definitely the worst event I've ever seen for ticket rates
I cleared everything except 3 helena copies and 110 mat
The prioritisation here feels wrong 
I enjoy having limited and concentrated effort for events like this
Reminds me of the first Mewtwo event 
I just fed candies 
I was pretty behind on wally event and that carried over for this one
Snd more events kept coming
I blame the sinnoh events
Feels odd, unless you were in training area
or missed some days
SInnoh events were easy clears luckily, same as all VAs
But because of otherworldly for the first time I dind't farm
on a VA event
I missed like a weeks worth cause of wally
But how were you so far behind on Swally! 
Bad rng
Garbage event
I am vaguely tempted to clear the remaining items but why do that to myself no-one will ever know
Yea we should def send feedback
Tbh this was the one event where it was better to just use the candies to save time
I don’t think it was that bad considering no other uses for stamina but definitely one where you can’t clear the rewards
I couldn’t…
This month felt very event cluttered
And it’ll only get even more clustered the more seasonals we get
I got everything except those gym leader and elite four notes
You have Iris of course though
I had only Faitlin
This better not be a trend as I have literally no Christmas or New Years units
So we both only have 1 unit right? So we both same boost
I dont have other fall units
Unless sawyer got extra boosts that I don't know of
Wait the current Fall units didn't get a bigger boost?
Wasn't there an event with four different items to get
I had Furburt and Faitlin
Nope its same multiplier
Idk how I struggled so hard
As much as faltlin
Christmas
Christmas and palentines
I only had FIris for the majority of the event and I got em all
I only did dailies on Wally tho I admit I got lucky
I did only get two Helena copies though I just candied her
I'm being gaslit on Resource Saving Support 
Ahh, the worst seasonals 
I didn't have any halloween units so I couldn't rly get helena copies 
You're looking at Midnight Battle Ball
Yep so its equal right, the two events run side by side...i got boost on the newest but get lesser on midnight
Ohhh
Midnight is an older event and isn't as resource intensive
Ye
And i still can clear all stuffs
Because Midnight has no Helena to unlock
So i wonder why not enough for you
It isn't as worse as the current one though
BECAUSE I HAD A UNLOCK FIVE COPIES OF A UNIT AND ITS SYNC ORBS AND POWERUPS 
I just use my 3* candies
I only claim helena

And orbs
I do agree the cost of copies should be wayyy lower when you get only 100 of those tix daily
The event was so bad
In terms of output
It didn’t feel even remotely close for that with Naomi
In terms of story too it was a downgrade from the FMorty and Faitlin one 
They should have done 3 copies of helena for 1 mat and 2 copies for the other nat
Coz I was overflowing on the big looking mat in the event
Ah yes the event where Allister lost his mask yet you can clearly see the mask on his model still
I did not
i mean i know its still there but i didnt see it
It's still better imo cuz not only was it longer it also had a bunch of characters while the FIris one felt shorter and had less content
There's so much potential to her getting Naganadel but they just made it evolve through the power of friendship 
First time in the Pokemon franchise?
Im a villain fan... I experience it all the time and yet I continue to lie to myself 
https://twitter.com/pokemonmasters/status/1587882251882098689?s=46&t=mNiqsUEH6O-9LohstkrxhA they’re buffing flannery i see 
I know who I’m using on my birthday.
But, this is gem zone. Our goal here is to not urge pulling.
I thought you meant she was actually getting a buff
YOOOOO
Can’t wait for my Serena and Ethan bufff I love using them
I saw it more as Poipole learned from Iris’s dragon vibes
I like that it will buff my silver a lot 
can't wait for Santa Lillie and Vulpix!
Omg now at the gem zen is real
Would that be her 4th or 5th alt?
Do you think dreamy would mind if I were to repurpose this for that new one and specific it for that game?
can't wait for my arcablue buff 
I just noticed anniN also have low 294 atk spatk...a boost to bunch of my faves
so gonna maxed it out day 1
it will be good for your new fire fave pair too since i realized it has really low def despite its high attk/spattk values (you know who I'm referring to) 
I found a weird saving mechanism that might cost me long term
if only 
But it saved me from pulling on a full pity, at least
I've spent a candy out of spite for an ebe, on a fave I have been tempted to 3/5 ever since I got him, but
A candy nonetheless
To get Emmet's sync nodes
scemmet?
emmet isnt a bad choice since its a limited
He was on the low prio kind of pairs due to already getting most of his important stuff at 1/5
But he is likely my favourite pokefair in the game
So it doesn't feel bad to hyper invest on him
Oh wait I just realized
I had nearly max multipliers for Halloween events
My bad guys
5/5 for favs 
Oh i didnt notice that, that would be good...because before this i use her with evelyn and ssmorty
Say good bye to fall allister
Tbh... I truly underestimate his kit and moveset cuz I didn't pay enough attention... I started to get interested on him ever since the 6 solo video in a span of 4-5 hours of his released...
See you next year

Saving resources is always a good thing
Gem count, close to hitting 40k
Excellente
i cooka da pizza
MF's in December
Then the 3.5 ani in Feb... Acreus save us😬
They got us good but not doing MF's this month 😅
Hello Saving Squad, I have hit another milestone
270k.....I'm aiming for 292k, which is 8 pities
Then I think I'm safe for the Kalos VA

That count will DISAPPEAR once it hits
lessgo Tai, save for that amazing Kalos VA
Tai is prepared to 5/5 the whole VA
lmao
need to repost this here but
it's the year 2021
you join PoMa server and post this screenshot
you claim it's daily logins
you get banned for fake news
What happened to blissful bonanza? I claim items from the shop right after i do daily battle
Previously if you didn’t exchange items before the battles ended you couldn’t do the mission to exchange items
However now the missions still appear ‘live’ despite the battles being gone
I see so just like anime ticket issue before this? Mission still exist but daily ash battle already gone, so people cannot clear it to get the ticket?
Possibly yes
Well you got Halloween expedition rewards just by going into lodge at least
300% growth!

Hopefully everything is alright for my pursuit of faves 
How fast do Xmas reruns dissapear?
I think they stay for 2 weeks
Like when do they arrive
Mid month i think...the banner probably ends on 2nd or 3rd January just like Last Fall
january datamine has historically come very early
it was on december 21st the past two years
Dena want to have a long holiday 
Hilbert is no more gems is supreme
There’s a thing I like to call “Long term investment” where you have something right now that will be useful sooner or later
For example palkia
I like palkia
Now when i first got it it was okay but when sinnoh Va happened it got a good boost and from that point on wether or not it’s a dragon weak eb or sinnoh eb I’ll always use palkia because it’s useful
Any f2p unit will have a long term investment
Yep thats why i gonna 150 all legendary adventures unit, already done all bp master units... almost finished MC solgaleo but N keep left me without allowing me to give gifts 
Zinnia power boost is also great, i build her for draco meteor...can take advantage of her increased spatk after mega
I hope the Johto eeveelutions rerun soon
Cuz i need 6 more limited units to finish johtomax
wow
the last time i saw was 200k
this is a cry for help from tai. please release trevor tierno and shauna dena or tai will continue to be sad
please return the villain sygna suit pattern and give us ss lysandre too 
i feel like lysandre power boost this month put the nail in the coffin for a VA alt for him
That is an absolute L
i hope i’m wrong for your sake
What if they did it early so they didn't have to take up space
also N got an expansion and a sygna suit
...but he's also N ...
oof
yeah but they did it this month like they did with cynthia’s boost + ssac
You better be wrong then

||at least allude to an RR alt like Ghetsis .. if it even is an alt...||
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N is a villain
Pattern says it's time
its right there in his theme skills

Only his base pair is villain
All his subsequent pairs don't have the villain skill 
iirc
Idk, don't have any of them
didnt even get all helena copies i candied her (had 20 strike
)
Looks like you have a lot of friend requests
do i get gems for accepting them
at least decline them instead of leaving them on read 😭
they go away after a while
I did that then my friends list got full
Friends
Gems
Save Friends™️ 
It's true 😭 AAAHHHH
they should give gems for accepted friend requests
If that happened I would friend and unfriend folks constantly lol
well up to a limit haha
there is another gacha i used to play that rewarded players up to 3k gems equivalent for playing coop with different people
it refreshed twice a year
probably one of the most f2p friendly gatcha game ive ever played
if anything they shouldnt be giving so much free gems
like they are already
probably hurts them financially
I think it’s one of DeNa’s more stable Gachas
They were in danger once because so many of their other crap was tanking and Pokemas EX was one of the few to help gain them money haha
Actually, the generosity of PoMa is what made me want to spend real money
So hard disagree with the ppl who say we get too much lmao
lol
they should give us even more free gems to compensate that many limited units
i have spent no money on this game i still have every master fair and fav in the game and have went to pity multiple times
whats my incentive to spend
when i can get everything for free
doesnt make sense tbh
but again thats just my opinion
the only ones who keep up with games that require paying to be enjoyable are whales, that later on quit because there's no one to talk to about the game
Every MF? That’s not exactly a common thing for f2p
Every MF and fav?
How many favs do you have 
next thing you will tell me you have them all 3/5 too
the only ones i dont have 3/5 are lille and anni steven
so yeah
most of them
are 3/5
johto trio took me 90k gems for 1/5 of them
u know its usually the amount of months bw master pairs that indicate how many master pairs are gonna be released at once
so im guessing next month is gonna be 3 master fairs
MF moment
ive been saving for 2.5 months and im at 87k rn
im gonna have 3 pities by that time
its not that hard
imo
Every mf is somewhat reasonable i guess, but every fav as well is a bit hard to fathom
How many favs do you have?
1 only darkrai
different difficulty for different people
For an full F2P I wouldn’t say it’s exactly common more like “luck dependent” 🦦 most F2P players tend to have 0-2
this is an advice thread to help people save for what they value
Nvm, that makes sense 
ye mb
😦
always gotta say not enough gems
A lot of people here have several favs. I myself have like 7 that i’m waiting for reruns alone
Lillie and N being favs is costly 
My favs boil down to starters and protags
for me it's pokemon + character + outfit + kit combo
so I can only decide once the unit comes out
yeah for me its pretty different my fav even in the all the other games are maxed out stats and kits its not pokemon
nbd and i’m glad it’s been easy for you but try to be mindful of others
having all master fairs would be tough for me, since I'm playing only for few months, and there's no room to get the previous ones and new
not to mention other units "catch up" to them quite fast
I’m fine with my 3-4* gacha pairs 
I love how some of them play especially bugsy he’s been so useful@for bug
would honestly like more of them, but they don't get released
the other gacha i play also stopped releasing 3* and 4* units at some point, the last 3* was like 3 or 4 years ago in it
The other one I play has 3 demotes per banner 💀
And that games version it a BP unit every month
yeah, but do you use multiple teams in it
For that game since it’s mostly PvP or PvP but controlled by AI
You use a lot of teams
i see, hope pvp never comes here or it will mess with people's gem zen mindset
In total you prolly have 22 teams that yoh use for that game
PvP would not work for this game unless they completely change how battles are as the units aren’t balanced for it
when ppl get thrashed they would want to save for the right units wont be yoloing on random spotlights no?
i don't want pvp, but i wish we could design battles and let other players face them
I disagree as in that other gacha I play people saving is a rarity because almost everyone that plays it has the mentality of “if I don’t pull this unit how far in the meta will I be…”
but not the units they want, just meta
meta chasing is boring, i don't look at character art in the other game I play, i don't care, i just check the kits
That’s what feh calls “defense” you create a team for enemy players to phase but it uses your units controlled by an AI
i'd rather have something like mario maker with rental pokemon
Make battle factory a mode plz
you design a battle, choose possible rental units (or exact team) and have to prove yourself the battle is beatable
They could incorporate the gen 4 battle frontier super perfectly fit this game
Battle castle is basicallu@villa but you have to save your resources way more
And you keep statuses in between fights
just let us keep all stat changes but remove sync buffs
Hall would be where solos are peak, arcade could add more gacha to the gacha, factory use random mc mons

and design it around teams entering buffed
True, units can deal bunch of damage like 10k-99k but highest hp for units is like 1k or something
I believe brawly is still our highest Hp unit
not Roark?
Roark is more than him
Oh lel

Hugh gambles more than Grimsley
...i just gonna copium for Arceus and Regigigas for better normal faves
I am praying there are no masterfairs next datamine. I can’t keep up 
I wonder which character they can do another wild card master fair for like Lusamine
Unlikely we go 3 months withought a master fair
Why can't you keep up? What else are you pulling?
For all of 2022 I’ve had enough to safely pull pairs without waiting for datamine but yea ill have to wait on N
Anni hit me hard
Ss Steven before that then I couldn’t resist iris rosa & hilbert
I just skip non faves MF...i already skipped sstred, ash, ssacynthia and probably leon rerun 
I only skip Alolas. But I also aim a tiny bit on Galar.
Skipping Anni month was great, tons of gems 
I forgot what happened during ani month that I ||spent was that when SC rerun happened?||
Yep
N’s high on my fav list but I’m waiting for December datamine
I hope there's a boost of coins on December or January
As they might need some time to implement the feedback given due to 5/5
I will give them two month's time
January i just gonna buy basic bundle
Considering that coin income is a constant passive, what's the difference between waiting for it and purchasing a 20 day pack for slightly delayed gratification?
It'll happen
I just buy it because my tech coin and strike coin demands are way higher than supports currently
I'd like to ask your definition of "demands" and what qualifies as a need
I'd imagine their demands are the pairs they'd like to get around to candying for whatever reason that is, but won't get around to candying all for a while due to the amount needed to do so
It's simply a matter of spending money for further progress, nothing new or too wild really, so long as it's within their financial means
Yep this like can only make 1 tech candy in 2 months but they release naganadel, genesect, black kyurem, shaymin all techs...so 8 tech candies needed to 3/5 them 
Luckily i doesn't chase 5/5 pairs
And pulling for more dupes in the banner kinda bad if RNG screws you and the second dupe costs another pity to obtain
1 strike, 4 techs, 0 support faves in these 3 months
if you're wanting to candy a ton of pairs over time, you may as well prioritise the Master Fairs, because you can select others for dupes
which'd actually be pretty cheap with the basic daily gem bundle
Yep i prioritize master fair and seasonal...well in case of select scout, DeNa doesn't offer all units like seasonal select
Only ssmorty and ssdawn fave in 1 select, and sscyrus in second select
Unless they improve it
To be as much as seasonal select choices
Also need to factor that select only give 1 dupe every 3/4 months but would be bad if its like above, which DeNa add 5 faves in 3 months
So you adding more than you can cover with selects
the selects are more of a bonus, yeah
but you'd rather not have all the selects available in a small pool be ones that you've already candied for 3/5
Im fine if they increase the frequency of selects if they did this, like before this i skip the 5k select scout due to i already got sscyrus 3/5 and other units in it are not faves
Also the inequality of roles distributed also cause this problem...if i didn't grab coin bundle, i will need 12 tech candies, 8 strike, 6 support
So i gonna use 2 months of coin bundle to reduce the techs demand
dec , jan , feb , march , aug , sep are peak months yeah
Probably gonna be a minimum of 30k from dec - march now
If april gets SC then likely its 30k too since SC months are also high
I like how they sped up the celebration scene in co op so all 3 play
idk if December is going to be a peak month when last year is barely scraped by with 24k
It's hard to tell, and I feel players have this expectation that they'll be given a large amount of gems now as opposed to previous years thanks to this year's Feb, Apr, and Aug months being so generous
It was 27k
well im referring to december update more than december as a month
v 2.15 was 27k to be exact
dec , jan , feb , march , aug , sep are the peak ones generally
april , may , june , july , oct , nov is expected to be low
This years april got SC and may got 40 millions rally so they got boosted a bit

Anyways it would be nice to alleviate a lot of the players' gem counts from the recent banners. There's been a lot of high value banners people have been investing into and dropping them into the four-digit ranges
the high value banners wont stop anyways unfortunately
I'll hope for their sake December gets a decent gem income again
as per previous years it probably will
3rd year in general had a lot of fantastic banners as compared to 1st & 2nd anw
Are lussamine and xmas units are the only limited units for last December?
dec 2019
hol19 rosa
hol19 siebold
grimsley
giovanni
dec 2020
gloria
hol20 erika
hol20 skyla
dec 2021
kimono grimsley
ss lusamine
classic elesa
hol21 leon
hol21 nessa
sonia
CElesa the goat
Oh there's celesa i forgot her release date
dec 2022 would probably also be 4 limiteds
2 being seasonals
seasonal months now are 4 limiteds anyways
dec 2021 , jan 2022 , feb 2022 , july 2022 , oct 2022 all 4 limiteds
Oh dang LuSSamine was December?
wait a minute...
november 30
why?
Hope not many faves
oh well there's a bunch of Elesa fans especially with lodge i know people have been saving freemogems for her around
This month i already need to collect 3
They forgotten about CElesa and Champion Iris this VA.
Well thanks DeNa for the cheap 20 days bundle
they dont have much to do in unova story
It's typically the protags anyhow
considering max gap btwn new mfs so far have been 3 months by that we are probably gonna get one in next update so 4 limiteds can be 1mf + 1pf + 2 seasonals like last year or 2mfs + 2 seasonals since 2 seasonals are locked anw
Iris doesn't care, she just got naganadel or she secretly plotting to see origin dragon being fused because she like dragons
Iris kinda mean, she keep asking what's my favourite candy and i can only get from her by beating her in pokemon center
I ask for Striker candy.
Cynthia & Garchomp
Cynthia & Gastrodon
Sygna Suit Cynthia & Kommo-o
Sygna Suit Cynthia (Aura) & Lucario
Sygna Suit Cynthia (Renegade) & Giratina
yeah unfortunately forum threads and bot support is still bad they're working on it
what you can do as a temporary fix is input the pokemon name and select the page as an additional option
Kinda sad about ssrcynthia, i thought every Master Fairs banners gonna be 2 month duration after her release...but its just a false hope
/pair name:necrozma page:Banners (press tab after writing the poke name)
i swear discord is maliciously bugging 🤣 (well mostly in forums)
Not a lot of
Ice-Zone candidates left. I guess Articuno, Regice, Kyruem White, Glastrier.
Articuno pls pls pls
but this means it has a chance to be a shitty tech with no dps with frost breath or something

ss wally treatment with zone and rebuff
or zone and hail
(please make hail better)
All the Things!
Ice zone
sounds like it can appear on Christmas.
Hail is low-key gauge support, with all the delay it causes.

Sounds something irida will get
More non-5star alts. 😤
But I don't mind not getting any new support faves...3 of my bp pairs are still 1/5
Can spend candy on them
can we please just get an EX support that can +6 speed in 3 turns or less?
that's all i've been asking for since 2021
Sounds like sycamore power boost 
Sounds like skyla
Plus head start lucky skill
well Sycamore needs to sync
other than skyla
Faitlin?
I just hope that magearna and enamorus are not supports...i gonna sync with sycamore anyway
i have all of them
which are basically non existent
roxanne marley rachel skyla fcaitlin hilbert lyra nita
none of these are 2022 pairs and half of those can't be EX'd
shame on DeNA 
Head Start 3 - 5 Energy 
Sabrina 
Sounds more possible than DeNa giving him team crit buff
y e a a a Sabrina can true but it's a bit clunky tbh (i have her maxed as well)
Sycamore Focus Rush 3 believe
Horn Leech defense crush 4 
Leaf can max speed in 3 turns, just not consecutive ones 
sheer cold 
i used to run mind reader + sheer cold because I loved the animation in FRLG
Woop I misclicked the channels again - was headed to Resource Saving Support thread, didn't know I was in poma-lounge here
happens buddy
wait
notice it's the mod who is doing the offtopic!
Screech -Kyurem
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so far i'm happy my savings have been continuously increasing
the daily income from the bundles feel nice
Imagine making games in a corrupted and dead western industry
How does one save gems when N exists, and Ice Zone inc?
you play better pairs like Candice and realize powercreep is an illusion
Im happy that i might still have big gems entering December
another EB where the free unit can carry you
Nothing goes wrong when investing on legendary adventures unit
But he did send Nate’s bird to the ice age
Eh I just use N
easy as ABC (Always Be Csavinggems)
Regular one
someone did the EBE with Skyla Ghetsis Cheren
Ghetsis and Skyla not EX'd
Mad man
powercreep is an illusion
save gems, get gems
Always is
EB Colress and Rosa pt 2
The free unit was Skyla
Skyla is the MVP
Maybe Conserving gems would fit that ABC more 
i constantly tell ppl to EX Skyla, she's a staple in 90% of the events
Technically though
All units in this game are free units
I haven’t
Which is ironic
Cause I’m in the skyla squad channel thing
she’s still an excellent EX candidate for players of all ages
dreamy was just going on about aoe speed buffers and she’s one of the few
I remember saying “Why support ex they do no damage” ohhhh I was so wrong
and one of the rare 2 Potion MPRs
which a lot of beginners use because they don't queue properly so survival is their need
speed, mega pots, flinch, flag bearer
Skyla (Almost) can have unlimited banadages
the biggest issue for new players is those 3* and 4 support candies are relatively rare
I got a friend that started a new account, i was surprised that total gems that newbie can get now nearing a pity amount...well more VA we get, more permanent content for new players also legendary arena becoming permanent
Newbie starts with free bluegeot, 8 5* legendary adventures units, and 1 5* from every VA plus 1 of sskantrio
And yet so many feel they need to reroll
Well reroll will add another 1/2 strong 5* at start 
Might as well get a new strong fair sync pair
Unless there's a master fair, a seasonal they'd like, or an absolute favorite they'd want, I'd never recommend pulling in an immediate way
The first thing new players need to be given is the context of what is at their disposal and what is time-limited vs what isn't
I wonder if master fair can still be glorified like before, pokefairs and seasonals are catching up to their performance
Pokemon Masters, and most gachas out there, do their best to conceal this information as best they can so the player can make immediate bad decisions that causes a longterm re-building of resources to be put in a better position
In v 2.16 not v 2.15
she was in january 2022 datamine
Does using Masked Royale strictly as a speed buffer count
they should start only when theres a broken master fair running
i would still say rerolling ss kanto is worth tho i mean if you can why not
lyra
serviceable but 
#1010275375730925638 message i listed them there (sabrina not coz gauge usage + clunky imo but it is true yes)
probably might be holiday22
master fair ice zone candidates? probably kyurems or articuno only or another ice calyrex
I'm guessing the NY selects also in that update.
Only going up to the 24th. 
lol NY content is always in january datamine tho
we'll probably get v 2.28 on like dec21/22 like we do every year
I'm praying mega aboma tbh
Or alola ninetales?
Idk
Support Frosmoth with sterner stuff 5 but on special side would be also cool with it
Inb4 Juan & Walrein
cara liss and arctozolt
lmao another spotlight zone? 
I think it would be seasonal tho
tbh

who is cara liss?
Scientist in galar who gives you the fucked up fossils
she’s the lady what made the galar fossil abominations
different shoes, sock on only one foot. absolutely unhinged
the only memorable Galar NPC
ball guy???
ok fair enough
The mine worker female????
I only remember them because of the TCG but I think they’re fairly popular
Hairdressers are also nice
So is the dancer
I also like realistic doctor
Hope that December, January, February have free NPC units
Likely all 3 have seasonals
id assume seasonals and special costume would have free npcs
Yep more free pairs more better 
||Sonia (Ground)||
Who is that
Gem count, 
Female Worker from SwSh
Maybe that’s Worker Georgia? I think that was the name of one of them in Galar Mine No 1
Alrighty, all I gotta do is save till the 18th that’s where my pity be at. So two weeks.
very nice


