Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)

[tawny dagger]

Since person with monthly pass is more likely to renew, maintaining a steady flow of income rather than being isolated in few good gem deals once every 2-3 months

So increasing the amount of paying users + user retention

So generally speaking monthly pass tend to be highest value paid resource in the game for these reasons

[lusty prism]

Are we getting a new monthly bundle?

[tawny dagger]

Ye

3$ for 3k paid gems

[timber wren]

the new bundles arrive in two resets

[lusty prism]

Thanks!

[tawny dagger]

19$ for 7.5k paid gems and one generic move candy or 20 coins if you will

[sturdy flower]

1$ per candy coin

[weary spire]

You're getting 7k paid gems with it too, so it's honestly like you're getting the same value in paid gems as the previous deal + $12 for the full candy

[drifting dagger]

Both deals are legit amazing, we got such a good win

[lusty prism]

So 21$ totaling 10.5k paid gems and a yellow candy, within 20 days

Way way better than the current monthly

[lofty relic]

well

i am hyped about the bundles

but

[timber wren]

i mean the current deals were godawful

[lofty relic]

haha eu pricing surprise

[timber wren]

pretty much anything outside of anni/story/CS/ash deals were abysmal in value

[lofty relic]

i very much doubt the conversion rate is gonna be 1:1

[mint pike]

Back to the grind

Recouping from the anni

[lofty relic]

[lusty prism]

Yeah true. I always wondered why poma gave such abysmal value in the monthly. Although i dont play much gacha games (poma is my one and only), doesnt gacha games generally have good monthly bundles or something. steady income flow for the devs im assuming

[drifting dagger]

Didn't they said those were done as a workaround to the apple shit?

[lofty relic]

no clue but i'll be super happy if our bundles aren't super inflated

🤞

[drifting dagger]

Ye

[thorny pelican]

Save Gems™️

[lean mango]

Almost close to getting my pity again

[tough oriole]

[tardy fiber]

Hurm our twitter retweets are still 27.9k...why some JP players don't want to retweet English post

[slow hare]

We'll get there dw

I think I'm making the tough choice to skip UnoVA or wait for datamine. I like SSN but there's stuff I want from Kalos, Alola and Galar VAs, plus with these new gem deals I think it would be silly to not at least wait for datamine to see what's dropping in December

[tardy fiber]

It probably a while before we see kalos, probably after half anniv

[slow hare]

Could be Jan/Feb

[deft glen]

Now with the $3 bundle
What would be the second best thing to spend paid gems on? Other than Select Scouts (and Poma Day multi)

[slow hare]

If you are not here to gamble, tier scouts probably

If you are, dailies

[sand crown]

There is a pretty big drop off between select scounts/poma and tiered

Dailies are in no man's land

[slow hare]

Yup agreed

I wouldn't consider anything other than selects

[timber wren]

this would be a huge gap between VAs

[slow hare]

Only answering cuz you asked, not personally supporting it

[sturdy flower]

i won't spend money till i see new content tho

[sand crown]

"special" events hopefully but I think lodge will be it for awhile

[tardy fiber]

Oh right probably Feb because March is gonna be full of half anni stuffs

I also kinda hope it will be Jan+Feb like sinnoh VA...2 months ssrcynthia banner duration is so good

Oh right recent Maxie Archie rerun also got long duration.

[uncut fern]

Been playing numerous gacha. PoMa is definitely one of the more expensive game

[tardy fiber]

I play ffwotv, it seems to be more expensive than poma in terms of maxing a limited event character you like.

As poma just get one copy and then done as the maxing up characters mats doesnt cost gems...but in ffwotv, you need extra shards of that character and if you didn't get a lot or didn't use paid visiores...would take about 6 months to farm enough shards to max that character from the guild

[hard solar]

compared to another gacha game i play, poma has a cheaper initial spark (9 multis vs 20 at about the same price point) but the other game allows you to use any 5* equivalent dupe to raise a limited unit - at the cost of needing 13ish dupes to max out a unit

[tardy fiber]

Im glad they improve the daily gem bundle...i bought a few of it in the past to catch-up with sync orbs

Only got 500 paid and 1k gems

[maiden kayak]

did i read smth wrong

expensive?

since when

i can name multiple games that are more expensive than that

[hard solar]

for the monthly bundle im asssuming

[tardy fiber]

Probably the paid gems amount with money ratio

[uncut fern]

The gem deal is kinda cutthroat even with the MF deal

[tardy fiber]

But any bandai games are more expensive than poma

[maiden kayak]

ok but u have to account their pity to gem ratio as well

[tardy fiber]

No wonder digimon game that i play before eos

[maiden kayak]

other games i know need 20 multis to hit pity

[thorny pelican]

Leth might be mentioning that PoMa is expensive as in pricing, but not in being forced to purchase

[hard solar]

yeah coming from other games im shocked at how easy spark is here

[uncut fern]

That's another issue. Poma doesn't bring forward pity unlike hoyoverse games

[hard solar]

compared to only being able to spark once every 8ish months F2P

[tardy fiber]

Ffwotv also doesnt carry pity...the games that i played that carry pity are just genshin and counterside

[maiden kayak]

bringing foward pity doesnt mean its a good thing

i would rather have lesser gems to pity than bringing foward

[hard solar]

genshin pity is only about 76 pulls

but getting gacha currency is way harder

[maiden kayak]

yea

time length is important to take in account

iirc u must buy monthly pass to reach pity abit faster

[uncut fern]

Conversely, getting duds also gives you back currency to pull again in genshin

[hard solar]

only like 2 pulls tho

[maiden kayak]

talking about duds

[tardy fiber]

Oh right did absol also datamine variety scout multi cost? If its still 3k for non pairs...it kinda sounds bad

[maiden kayak]

genhsin has 7 duds and lower rates

while pona is 5 duds and higher rates

honestly if u are getting this bundle every month

its actually way easier to save since u got selects to rely on

[hard solar]

also getting an early pull resets your pity in genshin
while you can get early and still spark in poma which is crazy

[tardy fiber]

I gonna grab daily basic at least every month...coin i will just grab once

[uncut fern]

Look, those bundles are indeed good, but the issue is Poma didn't start with those

[maiden kayak]

provided u have a fav per month

[tardy fiber]

Wait every 20 days

[maiden kayak]

wait i didnt know it resets once u got the unit

that really sux

its painful to be lucky wow

[maiden kayak]

didnt start with those?

isnt it a good thing

lol

[hard solar]

bascially how it works is you have a 0.6% of getting a 5*, 0.3% of it being the featured unit, and if you dont get it the next 5* unit you get is the guaranteed

[maiden kayak]

its cos of that we have alot of units

[hard solar]

and pity is about 76

[uncut fern]

Uh, I'd be glad with those bundles if they were available on day 1

[maiden kayak]

theres no point and doesnt make sense

[hard solar]

the current daily bundle in poma is really bad

[maiden kayak]

because at the start units arent alot

[maiden kayak]

of cos

[maiden kayak]

but not this tho

[uncut fern]

There is something called saving resources

[rotund sleet]

^^^

[uncut fern]

If the $3 bundle was a thing in year 1, I'd pick it up after soft resetting.

[tardy fiber]

Oh so if i got a 5* after this and its not featured, the next one is a guaranteed? Just asking because i probably near my first pity in genshin already 70 pulls in but i holding on for childe

[uncut fern]

That way, I wouldn't have to pay for all those gem deals throughout the years

[hard solar]

yep! and this applies to all banners in a type

[maiden kayak]

as i said

it doesnt make sense for dena to do that

due to how little the units were at the start

if they did that on year 1

[hard solar]

so if you got tighnari in the current albedo banner, your next 5* in the childe banner would be childe 100%

[maiden kayak]

they would have eos

they were very close to eos btw at year 1

they need to do price anchoring first

and then when time progresses

making it “cheaper”

so that more ppl would buy

[tardy fiber]

Neat so if i got qiqi or someone else, i just gonna wait till they rerun fatui harbinger again...i just started for about a month plus, so i tend to collect certain theme just like i collect legendaries, mythicals, UBs here...i set my mind to collect harbingers there

[uncut fern]

That wouldn't change up. Impatient players would still buy the gem deals instead of waiting for 20 days

[maiden kayak]

thats the point lol

they will still get 20 days bundle

• impulse purchase

i gurantee u they will buy both

[hard solar]

wait i misread LOL

[uncut fern]

So how would these bundles cause EoS if implemented on first year?

I can't catch up with this discussion

[maiden kayak]

because its way too cheap

and year 1 dont have alot of units

[hard solar]

but yes id check genshin twitter account tomorrow

[maiden kayak]

that will break game gem economy

[tardy fiber]

Oh right that scaramouche but he probably rerun again later in the future, I'm gonna grab childe because he reran several times before...not sure if they will rerun him again if i missed him this time

[maiden kayak]

year 1 dont even have 50 gacha units

[uncut fern]

Does this mean the game is going EoS soon now that we have these bundles?

[maiden kayak]

no

my guess is

[hard solar]

yeah childes great my first 5* i ever got

[maiden kayak]

now that they implement this

means

they will spam alot of rerun banners

[uncut fern]

Genshin started with said bundle and they are yet to be EoS

[maiden kayak]

to suck up those dailies

[tardy fiber]

Hope he will be my first 5* too

[maiden kayak]

Genshin is diff business model than poma

[uncut fern]

???

[hard solar]

conversely a good pass can make more people spend id say

[maiden kayak]

Genshin spends millions in marketing

poma is close to none

and leeching the pokemon franchise brand

and genshin

[uncut fern]

Oh well, I give up

[maiden kayak]

after 2 years only how many characters

and genshin low af rate

[hard solar]

the current daily pass nobody would buy - however people who would never buy a crystal bundle, would buy a daily pass that is good

[maiden kayak]

Genshin is competing in a market of gacha supermacists

while poma is in a business in converting fans to new gamblers

total different ball game

[tardy fiber]

I did buy before to catch up with sync orbs after tired getting replies "oh you should grid these characters"

[maiden kayak]

Genshin is competing in blood of red ocean(thats why their marketing dollars are insane)

[hard solar]

but still 10 dollars for a daily pass is insane

[maiden kayak]

while poma just need to tap on pokemon fans that never play gacha

[hard solar]

literally every other gacha i play has it at 5 or less

[tardy fiber]

Yep but when i still a noob, i doesnt even have orbs to grid skyla and other good f2p units

[maiden kayak]

if anything

genshin is actually more or less like miracle

[hard solar]

yeah i can see it being good for the orbs

[maiden kayak]

its very lucky for them to go big

[tardy fiber]

I stopped buying when i can clear csmm

[maiden kayak]

its usually home run or go home when competing in the red ocean

[hard solar]

genshin is so popular because it attracted a lot of the non gacha crowd

[tardy fiber]

Oh let me check my sync orbs stock...seems like need to use a lot of it this month

[maiden kayak]

they are high risk high reward tho

thats why i said they are diff business model

[hard solar]

because it wasnt just a phone game - it was being prominently advertised on the playstation store, pc gaming, everywhere as 'the next big thing'

[maiden kayak]

poma just need to tap on existing pokemon fans

[uncut fern]

Anyway, yay, bundle. Whatever

[maiden kayak]

which is why their marketing dollars were insane

i can even see ads on my fcking oublic transport

[hard solar]

woo good daily bundle

[maiden kayak]

silicon valley for gacha and they won the bet

[uncut fern]

Woo no need buy gem deals

[hard solar]

i will say

the main story bundle is stupidly good???

[uncut fern]

Already spent those. Yeah they are good

[maiden kayak]

yea but i think i will skip that and go for 20 day bundle

seems cheaper and better rate overall

[tardy fiber]

I will still buy event gem deals if it have welcome ash offer value

[maiden kayak]

I have alot of patience

[flint fog]

How worth are the coin deals?

[grand bramble]

This is the only time I spend real money in this game lol.... The 1k gems offer

[maiden kayak]

coin deals is ehhh

[hard solar]

i bought it cause like
now i can just tiered scout colress LOL

[maiden kayak]

good for high dolphins and whales

[grand bramble]

But I used Google opinion

[hard solar]

oh yeah google play rewards would be amazing for these new passes

[tough oriole]

Does google opinion work for apple

[maiden kayak]

honestly

[hard solar]

poma resets paid currency between OS

so sadly no

[maiden kayak]

the first deal is the only one yall need

if u want your saving journey to be VERY easy

[tough oriole]

So you can’t get the survey’s on ios?

[hard solar]

no

[flint fog]

Wait

I forgot do they sell the golden coin

Or is it just the 3

[maiden kayak]

yea

1 yellow coin very day

for 20 days

thats 18.99

[grand bramble]

Huh.... Oh man

[maiden kayak]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1010275375730925638/1036127793286746192/image0.jpg

[flint fog]

That might be worth out of the 4 then

I assume u have to buy seperately

[maiden kayak]

for whales yes

[tough oriole]

I think the sync orb one looks like a good deal, no?

[oak crest]

It is

[flint fog]

That's alr whale territory?

[maiden kayak]

(1 time) i think it might meant every month

high dolphins and whales

[flint fog]

Not really unless u new

[rotund sleet]

the $19 is dolphin, though good value

[flint fog]

Lodge gives alot of orbs

[maiden kayak]

i cant stomach myself spending 18.99 per month for a candy dupe

[tough oriole]

Relative to most deals seems pretty good, 3 dollars for an entire select

[oak crest]

$3 for 3k paid gems is nice

[rotund sleet]

doing it every month is whale stuff yeah

[rare swan]

They're definitely good deals

[flint fog]

OK wait

[rare swan]

But the best deal is the one you can safely afford

[flint fog]

They give all coins daily

Or 1 type only

[uncut fern]

Think of that candy as another spark

[flint fog]

That wording is very misleading

[maiden kayak]

the yellow coin

[rare swan]

I believe it's yellow coins, so universal candy

[maiden kayak]

so it applies to all units

[flint fog]

OK ok

I thought they gave all 4 candy coin daily

😭

[maiden kayak]

u wish

[hard solar]

so in comparison to other gachas

[uncut fern]

Generally if you can spend, $3 is the best deal. $19 if you really want more candies, and $22 to grab both

The BP deal is dumb

[hard solar]

the first pass is a daily login,
the 2nd pass is more akin to other games battle/mission pass

[maiden kayak]

i feel that the bp pass is just dummy price anchoring choice there

its obviously the most not worth it

[flint fog]

Why 9 bucks for half the paid gems

[uncut fern]

Newbie trap, unless someone just want to collect more chatelaines

[flint fog]

[maiden kayak]

designed purposely

so u would choose the most worth it in comparison

[uncut fern]

You either play the long game or just buy the gems immediately

[maiden kayak]

ppl tend to buy the most worth it option when done in comparison

[tough oriole]

If i sac regirock i’ll never miss a chatelaine

[flint fog]

OK then is more of is the coins worth that price

[maiden kayak]

yea coins honestly depending on individual

i dont see dupes as valuable as first copy

[tough oriole]

If they make more trash bp super pairs i can save more

[hard solar]

also crazy is

[maiden kayak]

so to me its not really worth

[tough oriole]

Don’t tell vantner i said that

[hard solar]

most other games have the daily login as free crystals
these count as paid??

[tough oriole]

Yes

[maiden kayak]

yea

paid and free are seperated in this game

[tough oriole]

Says paid here

[maiden kayak]

which is a good thing

[hard solar]

yeah - just a lot of the time

[maiden kayak]

other games dont seperate them

so they eat up your currency unknowingly and dont give paid gem banners

[lost bobcat]

3k deal got an huge gem ratio
Basically it's 5k month for 5$ if you keep refreshing
If you don't waste them on dailies you can grab every select scout you want

[flint fog]

Uhh

[hard solar]

the games i play do - and the login paid bundle gives you like a lump 400 paid, and the rest of the 3k or so are free crystals

[maiden kayak]

yea thats why its very useful if u have fav per month (for paid select)

[flint fog]

The old sync orb one is which one now?

[maiden kayak]

u only need one thing: patience

[oak crest]

That is also assuming one of your fav shows up in a select every month too

[hard solar]

okay im just gonna ask

[maiden kayak]

and still have room for dailies

[oak crest]

100%

[hard solar]

what are in the region selects like the upcoming unova select

[maiden kayak]

huh

[rare swan]

#1012256199128915968

Has everything

[maiden kayak]

u mean ?

[lost bobcat]

Not every month, select scout occurs few times at year

[lunar topaz]

Nice pfp

[hard solar]

im asking about this

[rare swan]

Thank you the artist is very talented

[maiden kayak]

dont bother with that noise

thats so not worth it

cos u cant select

its rng select

[lunar topaz]

Omg imagine getting Z and AZ floette for Kalos arc

[oak crest]

If you keep refreshing that gem bundle u prob can pull daily paid gem pulls since chances of a fav showing up in select banner isn't 100% anyway

[hard solar]

ahhh

[tough oriole]

Yea you could get bianca, or you could get nate

[hard solar]

so its just a guaranteed unova 5*

[maiden kayak]

very misleading

its 5* guranteed

not nate guranteed

[tough oriole]

Pretty much a glorified scout ticket

[oak crest]

Or u can get a 5/5 unova unit that u alrd got

[hard solar]

and only perms?

[tough oriole]

That’s how they’ve been in the past

[maiden kayak]

u mean regular pool?

[hard solar]

yeah

[maiden kayak]

yes

[hard solar]

okay thank you!

[lost bobcat]

Yeahm that's the attitude that will guide you to have no paid gems when the select scout show up
It's about planning and patience

[oak crest]

I don't pull paid daily tho so idk

Lol

[lost bobcat]

I skipped almost every seasonal, so i'm good doing that

[tardy fiber]

I might consider that select if there's a fave spotlight that is unova in the future but currently there's no value

[oak crest]

I have trash luck at singles anyway

(on other games)

[lost bobcat]

A big IF

[tardy fiber]

I only got good single luck twice

But bunch of other attempts fail

So i just use singles to fill pity points lately

[oak crest]

Oh

[tardy fiber]

Like when already 396/400

[oak crest]

If it comes to that I probably will only use the daily paid to fill 1 point

For 399/400

[tardy fiber]

I just do 1 normal single and 1 discount to get it over with

Or 4 daily discounts

[oak crest]

Yeah, basically that, 1 regular single and 1 paid daily

[lost bobcat]

Lucky days exists, that time i pulled ssrCynthia i tried a single daily on Lucas
Got him at 1/400

[maiden kayak]

u dont promote that here

[tardy fiber]

My luck actually reverse of you...got my first Lucas on 360/400

[maiden kayak]

no such thing as luck here

[lost bobcat]

Then nothing

Else, for ages

[tough oriole]

The chance of getting someone in a single yolo multi is less than the chance of hitting an ohko move

[tardy fiber]

I think even if we got 2 months duration of master fair banner, we still got a chance to not get the unit even if we did daily for all 60 days

[lost bobcat]

Ehh but like karma, it will find a balance somehow
I had to pity both sstRed and ssaCynthia
I was so tired that Inever tried to pull ash

So, i think the best outcome for the 3k deal is keeping for select scouts
100% success why not

[oak crest]

yeah

[tardy fiber]

Yep, but paid gems also function as my desperate funds if the fave banner almost expires...so i guess there's that for me, so i will keep buying the basic daily gems bundle

9k paid gems in 2 months

[tough oriole]

That’s a lot faster than select scouts come out i think

One should be able to get every 3k select with that

Wonder if they’ll do mf selects

[oak crest]

just need to buy the basic packs 2 month prior to x.5 anni or anni if you want to go for both selects during those events

[tardy fiber]

Inb4 its all 5k selects

[lost bobcat]

Probably

[tardy fiber]

Im more excited of seasonal select than PF select

PF select can only select from few units, seasonal select recently we can choose from almost all

[oak crest]

they never had SC select banner for the SCs last Nov right?

only "tiered scout"

[honest fulcrum]

Is the 8k paid gems and yellow candy for $19?

[tardy fiber]

Yep only tier select

[tardy fiber]

7k and yep

[lost bobcat]

Also, seasonals got trash ratios, so even nore worth

[oak crest]

cunning Dena

[honest fulcrum]

Ah gotcha

I’m assuming it’s only a one time use then to balance that out lol

[tardy fiber]

You can buy every 20 days

Can form 3 yellow candies in 2 months if you rich

[honest fulcrum]

Wait huh????

I thought it only said one-time

[tardy fiber]

Nope it refresh every 20 days just like current bundle in store

[honest fulcrum]

Ohhh gotcha makes sneee

Sense*

So could you buy the other deals at the same time?

[tardy fiber]

Seems like can...they already say in #datamines

[honest fulcrum]

The $19 and $3 are absolutely loaded

[tough oriole]

Maybe i’m doing math wrong, but isn’t the daily gem bundle ex (3k for $3) better (gem:currency) than the story/champion bundles?

[honest fulcrum]

Probably

$3 for 3,000 paid gems is ridiculously amazing

[flint fog]

Well that one is obvious

[tough oriole]

The $19 one is a but iffy tho

[lunar topaz]

1K for 1$

???

[tardy fiber]

The coin bundle only worth if you need to use bunch of move candies

[rotund sleet]

i want them to do limited selects more than a few times a year

[flint fog]

3 for 3k is like ash level

No brainer tbh

[tough oriole]

Pretty much

[rotund sleet]

before i dump $$

[flint fog]

I guess we need ppl to do testing on the 19 dollar one

Given how they are pushing more move levels

[lost bobcat]

Not sure about the story/champion bubdle, i remember getting like 60k gems

[flint fog]

Def not lol

[tardy fiber]

I gonna buy the 19$ bundle once...to lessens my tech candies demand currently

[tough oriole]

If you use the same ratio as the 3k $3 one, you essentially get a move candy for $12

[flint fog]

But we can't use that ratio

Because that ratio is busted af

[lost bobcat]

I don't recall correctly, how it was?

[flint fog]

Iirc it's closer to 1 pity worth

[tough oriole]

I think that’s the only good gem deal, so i’m using it

[flint fog]

Def not 60k lol

[tough oriole]

18.5k for champ, 13k for the story

[onyx hornet]

i think it was 13k for story and 18k for champion

[lost bobcat]

Both story and champion?

[onyx hornet]

or something like that

[tough oriole]

^

[onyx hornet]

yep that

[flint fog]

Ya so closer to 1 pity then 60k lmao

[tough oriole]

You can go to your shop and check even if you already bought em

[lost bobcat]

I was just "wow"
Maybe i saved so much before

[honest fulcrum]

$22 over 20 days for 10k gems and a whole move candy seems absolutely too good to be true

[flint fog]

12 dollar is literally 12k paid gems

[tardy fiber]

Yep i use this to gauge upcoming coin bundle price as story bundle is 21.99 usd so coin bundle will be a bit cheaper....had to use this method because im from one of the affected countries

[flint fog]

It isn't 22dollars no

[honest fulcrum]

Huh

[flint fog]

It's 19 usd

[tough oriole]

For both candy + cheap one

[flint fog]

Scroll up

Oh both

[honest fulcrum]

Yea both

That’s 7k and 3k plus the coin yea?

[lost bobcat]

Yep

[flint fog]

22 bucks for 10k paid gems

Hold up

Wtf

[tough oriole]

But yea, that 3k for $3 is genius marketing on DeNA’s part. Most gem ‘deals’ are scams, so making something kinda cheap is good. Most people aren’t willing to spend more than $30 monthly, so this’ll get a lot of people spending noney

[flint fog]

[honest fulcrum]

That is crazy af

[flint fog]

Isn't that literally better than the ash deal

We got recently

[tough oriole]

The $3 for 3k gems is the same value

[flint fog]

That didn't even have a candy attached

[honest fulcrum]

Im about to do $22 every 20 days lol this is incredible

[tough oriole]

No, that was 1000 gems per dollar

[lost bobcat]

Considering the old pricing was 80$ for 14000 gems during masters deals

[flint fog]

I'm talking about the other one

I swore there was a 10k paid gem deal one

Didn't buy that tho

[tough oriole]

I’ll check cami’s thingy

[honest fulcrum]

I wonder if they’ll offer more select scouts in return

[tardy fiber]

I wonder how much they will improve master deals

[tough oriole]

The 10k one was only ~ 400 gems per dollar

But that wasn’t the amazing one

But yea, I’m probably not ever going to buy story bundle now

[lost bobcat]

I think they'll keep nearly the same formula, it's "insta" gems after all
Like when you run out of gems the last day and you need few pulls
Gonna rob you for it

[flint fog]

Back then alot of ppl said that was pretty value too

[lunar topaz]

A move candy? Uh oh there goes my F2P status

[honest fulcrum]

Yepppp lol

I lost that a long time ago when they first started doing pokefair and seasonal selects

[lunar topaz]

My birthday is this month 💀

[lost bobcat]

Btw if you keep refreshing the 3k deal
It's 60K gems for 60 dollars in one year

[tough oriole]

Move candy + 7k gems for $19
3k gems + double daily sync orbs for $3

[tardy fiber]

To avoid this situation, i will keep buying the daily bundle even in months without anything to pull or without select scouts

[flint fog]

Well tbf the move candy one diminish in value

The longer u buy it

[lost bobcat]

Exactly

[tardy fiber]

So if i urgently need it, i already have healthy stock

[lunar topaz]

Oh my F2P status remain the same

[flint fog]

The 3 dollar one remains constant

[tough oriole]

Select for $3 is insane

[honest fulcrum]

Every 20 days at that

[chrome nest]

My bday is November and I was planning to do a ||bday pull||

[tough oriole]

I’ll probably pick up lilliebee with no regrets now

I need more selects, i need lilliebee, fallister, and summern

[honest fulcrum]

I know I need a lot of selects

So many

[flint fog]

Now ironically the other 3 coins are harder to get than the yellow one now

How the turn tables

[honest fulcrum]

I’m missing a bunch of fairs I wanted but wound up skipping

[flint fog]

[honest fulcrum]

Lmao indeed

[tardy fiber]

Moar DeNa moar...need dupes for fall iris, ssleon, sskorrina, djgloria

[flint fog]

Aren't they all techs?

[tough oriole]

Thankfully all seasonal selects are 3k… if a wanted pf appears for 3k i might take it

[flint fog]

[tough oriole]

Not ss leon

[tardy fiber]

Not ssleon

[lost bobcat]

Right, watch pulling for dupes in select scouts

[flint fog]

That's still a lot of techs tho

[tardy fiber]

But i already 3/5 all sc faves so i gonna avoid sc select

[tough oriole]

It seems like the $3 3k gems is catering towards low spenders, which is always great

There wasn’t much that was good for low spenders

[flint fog]

I mean even whales will get that

I think

[past imp]

$3 for 3k gems is overall a good deal compared with what's been offered. the $1 for 1k gems will probably never be bested

of course whales will get that

[tough oriole]

Ofc, but whales need a lot more than 3k

[flint fog]

What you mean never be bested

[tough oriole]

3k to a low spender is massive

[lunar topaz]

We wanted more candy coins DeNa but not paid crying

[flint fog]

Its a 1:1 ratio

[past imp]

I mean that ratio will probably never be bested

$1 to 1000 gems

[tough oriole]

It’s already being matched with the daily gem bundle

[flint fog]

They def planned this once they introduced 4/5 and 5/5 grids

[past imp]

I said bested. I would be pleasantly surprised if it was

[tardy fiber]

The new eevee event give yellow move coin i just hope it will be monthly or bi-monthly

[tough oriole]

It’s been matched by a common deal, it’s gonna get bested by a limited deal

Also the $3 is usd right?

[onyx hornet]

i assume (or hope) the master deals will get better now then

[flint fog]

I'm assuming all prices shown in #datamines is usd

[tough oriole]

So probably like 4-5 dollars with tax for cad

[lost bobcat]

It's what this game needed from the start
I mean, i have no idea how salaries are in the US
But based on the average salary statistics my country has like 1/6 of that average
And even with the masterfair deals one pity was almost like one whole month of salary

Def not good

[flint fog]

I think u have issues if you need to whale pity ngl

[oak crest]

im really tempted to buy that package once/month once its out

and even that it's more than enough for all the selects

[flint fog]

If you can't do it

Just take that l

[lost bobcat]

Just an example
Whales are whales after all

[flint fog]

It def feels game changing

Now we don't have to hoard that badly on candy coins too much

😭

[deft glen]

I feel you, here it's around 1.5 times the average salary.

The MF deal is cheap, but anything other than that the price just spikes up really hard

[flint fog]

And I still here questioning that random 1 5* pup ticket

At that ridiculous price

Why does that still exist

[past imp]

oh wow, you can buy the $3 fo 3k gems every 20 days? that makes every other gem purchase look horrible in comparison then. even the champion/story bundles. or am I doing the math wrong?

[lost bobcat]

No youre right

[tardy fiber]

As a contrast and reference that they also will offer way good deals sometimes

[past imp]

I thought it was a one time purchase LOL

they can release a new 3k select banner every 20 days then to encourage people to buy this

[flint fog]

So dena trys to make everyone a goldfish?

[tardy fiber]

The basic daily gem bundle is way good, and the weakness is just its timegated for every 20 days...so to avoid when urgent need for bunch of gems arises, i will keep getting it even in months without any faves

[flint fog]

Instead of 🐋 ?

[past imp]

yeah that deal is quite good... man I'm probably going to buy it. DeNA has likely made goldfish

[flint fog]

Which one

The 3 or 19?

[oak crest]

maybe they are thinking of it this way - getting 10k people who were previously f2p to be willing to buy this $3 package every month > 10 whales spending $300 every month

[tardy fiber]

Probably a constant stream of revenues from bunch of goldfishes is good for them

[lost bobcat]

I think is better for their financies considering how many left this game because the pitful f2p experience caused by n overflow of units each month

[flint fog]

Or big brain 22?

[past imp]

the $3 one is 15cents a day...

[lost bobcat]

60k for 60$ at year sound nicer

Just hope they won't pull 5k x25 select scout

[past imp]

it's still not enough to pity every banner. but it's good for selects and would make me hope DeNA releases more good select banners, like the last ones with SS Morty, SS Gio, SS Cyrus, etc

[flint fog]

Pity every banner is lmao

Dream on

[oak crest]

tbh I will never consider paid gems to pity a non-paid banner(besides the 1 point from daily pull)

rather spend them on paid-gems only banner

i.e. select

[past imp]

I agree, that's why if I buy this, I will hope DeNA releases more good select banners

[flint fog]

A full game? Nah 60k gems in pomas

[oak crest]

u never know, they might start to release mf select in the near future

[tardy fiber]

I will consider using paid gems if i lack 3k gems for the pity and the banner almost expired

Because already too deep inside the banner

[lost bobcat]

Well if it keep you entertrained for a whole year, 60$ are worth

3y so far and it did for me

[past imp]

if they released a MF select with units like SS Serena, SS Kris, I bet people would buy it

[thorny pelican]

A lot of topic discussions in the Resource Saving Support thread seem to gravitate towards the new price points of gem purchases.

That's okay and everything, but I hope that the efforts and deeper meaning of saving resources perpetuate towards something affordable and would be financially convenient for the players. For the long run, players probably would not need to spend even a dollar on this game to enjoy it fully, so long as they can understand what it is they're trying to get from it, and can manage their resources appropriately.

[lost bobcat]

I think they won't, except for something like 1 time only (like the free select they did for Cynthia,Alder, N,Lance)
Just look at Archie Maxie
Two separate banners

[tardy fiber]

I probably skip MF select...as i already got everyone i wanted...unless its way cheap like 5k as i still got some MF that still need dupes

[past imp]

agree, no one needs to spend on this game

[past imp]

well, many people do not have all the MFs they want 😄

[flint fog]

I mean because of how the game is designed

There is no Real need to pay

[oak crest]

as long as you are really picky with you want, non paid gems are more than enough to tide you over for sure

[flint fog]

It's all pve and 0 player interactions

[oak crest]

just dont fall to the "oh this unit is so OP" temptations

[flint fog]

So no incentive to whale for "power"

[past imp]

yes, you just have to be disciplined about your spending. you can clear all content without paying any money. that's for sure, and experienced players show us how

[flint fog]

Well EX battles are a different beast ngl

Still shuddering from the Bertha and lorlei one

[lean mango]

Been playing for a year and goin strong as an F2P, I remember before playing this game that people said it's tough being F2P

[flint fog]

😭

[oak crest]

I skipped ash easily(cos i disliked pika) altho how "broken" it is and all

[past imp]

well, EBEs are purposely designed to encourage people to buy the unit of the game

[tardy fiber]

EBE should not be a reason to pull, 600 gems reward is bad compared to 36.6k gems you about to spend

Not even the new bundle can patch the differences

[lean mango]

Oh I didn't even do the 2nd EBE of Lorelei I'm not EXing and breaking my rule just for 300 gems

[flint fog]

Ya I didn't ofc

[oak crest]

well, the new BP unit helped with the EBE back then

[tardy fiber]

Cobalion help me for Bertha EBE lets gooo MC

[flint fog]

I think I can pretty much cruise through pomas for a good while

[past imp]

after you purchase gems, there's no way to get a refund is there?

[flint fog]

[lean mango]

Oh ye just got Cobalion from BP

[oak crest]

I went for cynthia then, but SCDiantha alone probably can dismantle the stage for me

[tardy fiber]

On other games, you will be banned for doing that

[lunar topaz]

I wish I had 3/5 Coba endurance is so useful on it

[lost bobcat]

I'm also out of temptation for the upcoming month
Pitying 2 masterfairs is a bad experience

[oak crest]

oh, i pitied for the only anni mf I went for(Cynthia)

it was horrible

[lean mango]

Random question when is NY events ?

[oak crest]

and the pulls have like at least 50% dead multis(no 5*)

[past imp]

you get banned for trying to get a refund? wow that seems harsh

[tardy fiber]

Im torn on who to work next either cobalion/nita/mesprit ive done regirock and evelyn

[tardy fiber]

Because you kept what you pulled and ask apple to refund

[tough oriole]

Mesprit seems pretty fun at higher sync levels iirc, i’ll check

[oak crest]

it's pretty good once its at 3/5

[past imp]

ahh I see.. what if you didn't spend the gems yet?

[tardy fiber]

Can max spatk also its reflect and light screen have some def, spdef buffs

[oak crest]

my tickets are probably gonna be used for mesprit once I got all the 5* there

[lost bobcat]

Last *NY event started January first

[tardy fiber]

Not sure probably can, it all depends on term and conditions the game have...need to read that long statements

The one that you agree before playing the game

[oak crest]

which most people dont read em

Im definitely one of those

[tardy fiber]

[lost bobcat]

"I didn't installed this game for reading"

[tardy fiber]

Well because i already got gacha game experience before so i know it is kinda similar so there wont be any reason for me to ask for refunds

If people overspend, its on you and not the game

[oak crest]

I dont ask for refunds generally unless I didn't get what I requested for

[flint fog]

That won't fly

[tardy fiber]

Yep like if buy select but the select unit window doesn't open or cannot select...then i will reach customer support and if support cannot help, i will ask refunds

[flint fog]

Only instance when u can ask for a refund is in a select banner and game crashes and u somehow lost your attempt

[past imp]

I see. that's good to know

[lean mango]

K thank you, I'm trying to anticipate the events

[tardy fiber]

Like i got 5 premium raid passes as compensation when there's another egg during the period of Pogo gym Ex Raid in the past...after I complained to niantic

Missed one deoxys fight though

[oak crest]

ig this game doesn't "go ahead" with the pull if your game crashes

For certain games the moment you click the pull button the game will generate the result right away before showing the player the results

[tough oriole]

This is actually how it works

When i had an awful device i’d pull, the game would crash, and i’d find a new unit

[flint fog]

That is correct for reg pulls

I'd imagine is different for select

[sturdy hatch]

This feels nice

[tough oriole]

One time on that device i hit pity, when the game crashed it did the same thing that happens if you press the back button on pity. You can go back to scout menu and press ‘Choose a Sync Pair’ (or smth)

[tardy fiber]

Seeing that i already exchanged all good stuffs from all current events, i already start saving stamina for next reset

Gonna EX ghetsis day 1 ...power boost cannot, i need 2-3 days for power boost

[maiden kayak]

the bundle starts from tmr right?

[tardy fiber]

Yep

[maiden kayak]

nice

[south scroll]

We're getting so much stuff from lodge and such

[maiden kayak]

ah yes

cant wait for elesa lodge

[tardy fiber]

I guess i cannot do elesa soon, as lillie gonna be done next reset with one interaction...i gonna level lodge N next to not waste a day...so i will do elesa after done with N

[violet nebula]

Doing May atm, half way there. So about 2-3 days to get her to 100

Then onto Elesa and N, depends what crystal buys their gifts... a I'm short on firey ones from blue, Cynthia, silver😅

[drowsy saddle]

Both of them are strikers, fiery.

[violet nebula]

Ahhh crap😆

Wait.. May is a striker and uses the soothing one?

Oh they base it on the what the original pair is... ah

[upbeat lotus]

They base it on the base pair

Base May is tech

[violet nebula]

Yep

[upbeat lotus]

So she uses soothing crystals

[violet nebula]

Too many strikers

[tardy fiber]

Hope they do tech soon...in lodge gladion we trust

[signal halo]

I low-key wanna wait until there are enough lodge exclusive faves to hit 1% odds, so when I get a fave rate up, I have a 3% chance of walking out happy per pull

[chrome nest]

Trueeeeeee

Give that man umbreon

[signal halo]

N and sigilyph makes me wonder how strong he'd be if lodge pairs had EX

[violet nebula]

Be broken😅

[slow hare]

Joltik Elesa with EX would be pretty good

[tardy fiber]

In case of lodge, i like blue exeggutor ...he can buff attack, defense, crit, also got pep rally from grid

Also can flinch

[spare thorn]

Lodge units are all pretty good

Rosa aoe Def debuffs

Lillie does a surprising amount of damage

While debuffing

https://twitter.com/suuji_pokemas/status/1585964596388450305?t=9r7Z2EyedPxsO4lDdB-xvg&s=19

数字でみるポケマス (@suuji_pokemas)

衣装数別トレーナー一覧
List of Trainers by Number of their Costumes

#数字でみるポケマス
#ポケマス　#ポケマスEX
#PokemonMasters

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Hoenn is a very all or nothing gen

[tardy fiber]

Wow kinda surprising for Alola, looks almost similar to Hoenn...but Alola VA hasnt happened yet

[warm flint]

hilbert with 3 🙏🙏🙏

[oak crest]

Steven and Hilda aren't available in the lodge... if they were they would have 5...

[spare thorn]

None of the pairs on 2 costumes probably getting a VA alt too

[tardy fiber]

Kanto seems like a lot...but the only faves that i got from kanto are just mew and mewtwo, DeNa...where kanto birbs and melmetal?

[spare thorn]

Kanto the only one where both protags haven't gotten a unit I think

Would put Selene and elio in line for va alts

[sand crown]

Leaf not getting another one by now is a surprise

[spare thorn]

Guess Unova skipped Rosa and Nate but poma always put the focus on Hilda and Hilbert anyway

[tardy fiber]

Yep hope alola protags got some love...seems like the highlight on Alola are the Aether family

[oak crest]

at least rosa got shaymin recently... nate is totally forgotten

[spare thorn]

Gladion is kinda due

[reef river]

Nate got omega screwed

[spare thorn]

Maybe Hau

[oak crest]

Dena be like who's Nate

☠️

[tardy fiber]

Nate is kinda sadder than Leaf right? At least Leaf got a sygna suit alt

[spare thorn]

They put Wally up a month later I guess

[oak crest]

they might put an Unova protag up for a MF next month, who knows

[tardy fiber]

I gonna use 900 stamina next reset, hope i can EX Ghetsis day 1

[tardy fiber]

Or as half anniv pair

[oak crest]

yeah

Kalos has 0 MF unit right...

[jagged eagle]

id say so

[tardy fiber]

Ssserena

[oak crest]

oyeah

forgot abt her

[jagged eagle]

ironic cause isnt Zerena supposed to be like the best unit in the game?

or like 2nd best behind Ash

[oak crest]

i have her as well

totally forgot abt her

[tardy fiber]

I like sssteven more than her

Tech EX that have striker EX sync on attack form

[oak crest]

i probably will rely alot on her on next month's CS MM

probably will have to use my best units to get 2k for some of those especially

[tardy fiber]

I used her to offtype elec weak aaron last time

[oak crest]

my worst nightmares back then were elec weak aaron and steel weak bertha

these 2 gave me a major headache

[tardy fiber]

I will never forget zerena

Because i almost didn't get her

Got her via pity 2 days before banner expires

[oak crest]

that was really close

[tardy fiber]

Yep lucky i calculated a lot

[oak crest]

for me it was SCDiantha, that unit carried me back when I was new and she was basically a free win for most stages back when Sinnoh CS was just released

[tardy fiber]

Oh i took almost a year to 3/5 my sc units other than sc jasmine...so i only use my scdiantha recently

Also not yet use her sync because i sync with scguzma

[oak crest]

i forgot when I 3/5 her, even when she was 1/5 she was still pretty useful to me when I was still new to the game

but she definitely was 1 of the first few chars that I used my candies for

[tardy fiber]

Now thanks to new daily bundle

Maybe i will candy pokefair units before fall iris

I will just select fall iris when seasonal select happens

If i finish her soon, i won't have any unit to pick for seasonal select...and due to tech candies are really in demand, so if i can get a dupe from select, i will choose that option

[oak crest]

yea, tech units really want their 3/5 to nuke properly...

[tardy fiber]

Currently 2 pokefairs need tech candies (||4 if everything goes well||) and only 1 seasonal that need tech candies

[tardy fiber]

Yes but they kinda worth it...like they can also function as an assist role other than nuking

I like techs lately

[oak crest]

yeah, some techs are pretty decent as secondary supports for sure

[tardy fiber]

Yep especially now some techs like sskorrina, anniskyla, annimay also give team buffs

Yep especially the zone units, like I already changed most of them to assist build

But that's kinda good i guess, good value...like if got better units for sync just change tech to support...like most striker cannot change to support, and most support cannot change to nuker

[drifting dagger]

Striker yes, but support? Nah

[sturdy flower]

if we had turbo gauge generator tech with zone i could see 3 tech setups

[ashen thunder]

SSTred, classic elesa, darach for triple tech team

It's just less possible coz techs don't rly tend to have party buffs to cover buffs for others

Oh yea can also do flyhan+2x 1 TM meme techs for brute force stuff

[vernal glade]

More lodge pair= more yellow candy coins.

[grim plover]

it's funny that SST red it's his own tech, striker AND support

he's bulky, has perfect self buffs and tank properties, and a nuke + aoe move.

[sturdy flower]

DeNa loves Red

I'm afraid of 5/5 SS Red

they will definitely do something dumb

(or just upside down)

[ashen thunder]

But base red is different one

So it probably drops much later

or never

[sturdy flower]

SST might be like 2 years later, yeah

probably on rerun

SST doesn't have energy anyways, his grid is perfect as is

[grim plover]

crit squad 2 on tm, intertia, ||solar flare 9||

[sturdy flower]

i could see crit entry 1 or impervious

or berserker 3

[ashen thunder]

The b move tiles for SSTred is weak

[sturdy flower]

on tm

[grim plover]

im joking but yeah

[ashen thunder]

So I'd expect improvement on that one

[grim plover]

i just ask for fast self sufficiency

[ashen thunder]

Red Defo doesn't need crit on TM

Coz guaranteed crit passive

Closest he'd get is B move mods

Or more debuffs

[sturdy flower]

it's hard to give him anything really

[grim plover]

where?

im talking about charizard red btw

[sturdy flower]

i kinda listed ss red, he's talking sst now

[ashen thunder]

Can Charizard even improve

Unless it's entirely raihanlike grid

[sturdy flower]

he can self setup his atk

before sync

[grim plover]

yeah, i hate that he has to mega to raise his attack and needs 4 turns for full setup lol

2 tm, 2 dire hit +

[ashen thunder]

Eh I run Hilbert with SSred anyways like 99% of situations

[sturdy flower]

they might go another direction and give him high HE on heat wave

[ashen thunder]

And he sets up crit and atk himself

HE9 heatwave

And burn synergy 5

[sturdy flower]

that's still 50%

[ashen thunder]

I don't remember them going more than 9 for a passive

[sturdy flower]

aoe is split chance

[ashen thunder]

Also 50% is high enuff

[grim plover]

i would be happy with only sharp entry 1 and berserk 3 on tm

[ashen thunder]

I just have to reset till it procs

[lean mango]

My EX amount saving journey begins once again, no Koga EX no EX at all

[uneven pewter]

they will likely

this is a primer strategy

they are testing market penetration right now to see if they can turn more f2p into payers

just like how the "Welcome ash deals" were major profit points for them

especially since they are seeing the value of monetizing guppies

and not just targeting whales

[rotund sleet]

🤞

[uneven pewter]

now if they don't do this

(add more uses for paid gems)

then it's a lost opportunity and bad business

currently, we have
-dailies
-step up seasonals and SC banners
-3k selects
-5k selects
-10k promo selects (newest and worst value one)

[rotund sleet]

-limited select scouts

-that is it

[uneven pewter]

sorry i fat fingered my enter

the 10k one only recently showed up during the anni

and we see it again with the halloween costumes

as long as people keep ignoring these

we'll be fine and they'll phase out eventually

what i am expecting in 2023

-New Selectors for the monthly master fairs 
-Pop up selectors (likely will have a short window of opportunity to manipulate fomo)
-Candy promo banners (This is the newest one i am expecting double or triple candy coins for copies of older pairs that get 5/5 updates)
-Masters Fair Selector (it might be at 3.5 anni or New Years but I am actually expecting one of these now)
-other "chance" based high value gachas i.e. a premium gacha with guranteed 2 or more nat 5s

[reef river]

Idk if its more or less sinister to get money from "guppies"

[rotund sleet]

gacha is wholly enveloped in shady practices

it's all bad

[viscid flare]

Is that new daily gem bundle ex good?

The 3 dollar one

It looks good but is it actually good

[mild spindle]

Master Fair Gem Bundle: 14,000 gems for $79.99
is 175 per USD.

This deal is...
1000 per USD.

🫠

[uneven pewter]

It’s extremely value centric

Most other gachas charge $5 - $10 minimum for a monthly subscription like that

[past imp]

this deal makes the $1 for 300 gem purchase look bad, which I had thought was an ok deal

[mild spindle]

It's a subscription disguised as a gem deal.

They're banking on you paying continuously. Maybe we'll see Select Scouts ramp.

Also it doesn't help you if a banner is ending and you need more than 1k immediately.

[past imp]

I think they hope people will just keep buying them. but I think they would be smart to let people know that there are more good selects coming. I think that would boost sales

except for the latest ones with SS Morty/SS Gio etc, selects don't seem like they've been that good

[uneven pewter]

Hence why it promotes you to likely keep buying it

The idea of “oh no what if they release a deal down the road!”

$3 a month

From a wide net of guppies

Adds up pretty quickly

Especially when said guppies are extremely price sensitive

[tawny dagger]

It's 4.5$ a month here too

3$ for 20 days

Not 30

[hardy creek]

Tbh am surprised that pokemas has yet to do a proper subscription plan. Like there are these monthly deals but like..... it's a lot easier to back out of these/or skip a month than it is with an actual subscription

I was thinking it might have to do with the fact that this is a kids franchise still, even if the target audience of this specific game is older, but with nintendo online and pokemon home being subscription based, I don't think that's much of an issue.

[uneven pewter]

Check the history with mario kart mobile

It’s extremely ugly

Tldr the sub model backfired hard with that game

[hardy creek]

Not that familiar with nintendo's other gacha games, was just going off of what I've seen from idol gacha games implementing sub models themselves

(<-- she who's a corporate bootlicker and pays for an idol gacha game's subscription pass)

[tardy fiber]

I just noticed, lodge can cut some chunk of my coins buying the omni boosts...my gold coins dropped from 18 mil before to 14 mil today...it is especially apparent with these 3 expedition teams

[fallen path]

i mean, we have more than enough coins

just buy all the boosts lol

[lunar topaz]

We have enough coins just spend money

[fallen path]

when can i exchange coins for real money

[tardy fiber]

I forgot, how much coins needed to fully upgrade 3* gear? That also cost a chunk right?

Fire gear coming

[fallen path]

2-3 million at most?

[tardy fiber]

I guess i gonna sell all of my evolution stones

The eggmon event is still quite far

Hope i can get shiny pinsir and scyther

[tardy fiber]

Ok i just left 1k + of each evolution stones...my coins are 50 mil now

[tough oriole]

How many omni extracts do you have

[mild spindle]

I purchased 200.

I've got 104 million coins right now.

[tardy fiber]

How you guys have a lot? I already sold most of my stones and all of my pearls

[tardy fiber]

I just buy 12 at a time, buy back when the stock is 0

[tough oriole]

I get 300 extracts whenever i remember, but i only have 24 mil coins

[tough oriole]

Somehow I typoed and said thousand instead of million

[lapis pine]

Wtf I only have 15 mil coins (the most I’ve had in a long time)

[tardy fiber]

Time to sell your evolution stones

999 of the big one give 10 mil

[thorny pelican]

Finished everything, collected everything, gained everything

[lean mango]

Gem count, reset then pity

[lime marlin]

Victini is a fav but I can't see myself pulling for it because I have ss red, hilda, anniN and Leon..

[tardy fiber]

Thank you guys

I just hope that unova ticket will either be burgh or nate

[summer goblet]

Today is the last day of October update before heading to Nov

my plan is to reach 350k before deciding if i want Hilda or not by the month end

[weary spire]

Great job everyone!

[thorny pelican]

End of month gem totals could be a thing

[summer goblet]

hehehe

since i got 2 new protege to guide them in their gem saving

i prop should invite them here to get more input

[maiden kayak]

oh skippin this month?

[summer goblet]

we shall see

[weary trail]

Hmm Daily Gem Bundle EX much better uhh... cost efficiency than old one. Both cheaper and more from it.
Daily Gem Bundle EX+ is... just over double gems, no sync orbs but you get a move candy over the 20 days... For 6 times price for me...
I'm staying with the cheap one

[sturdy hatch]

Reminder to exchange blissful bonanza tickets today

Otherwise you lose the gems ...

[livid rover]

Wait if you spend them later you miss out on the missions?

[sturdy hatch]

[livid rover]

Now I wonder about the past Bonanzas...

[oak crest]

just assume u didnt miss out the gems in the past

[drifting dagger]

Man, 3.49 euros for the 3k gems deal here

[unborn pier]

£2.49

[unborn pier]

Euro pricing is unfortunate

[maiden kayak]

this is technically cheaper than euro price?

[drifting dagger]

Still good, but yeah

Also

Fuck apple

[unborn pier]

I think cheaper than the Euro rate because Apple didn’t mess up our currency

[tardy fiber]

nice, its still not that expensive in MYR ...i so gonna keep buying the basic

[drifting dagger]

For 2 months my bundle is 20,94 against 14,94 for the others uh

[tardy fiber]

basic bundle?

it will cost me MYR 41.70 for 2 months of basic bundle

[drifting dagger]

3k one

Yeah

Idk what to think tbh

Bundle is EXTRA EXTRA GOOD, but...

Still pissed for having an high price compared to most of the other players

[tardy fiber]

i just accept it, still better than the event gem offer and all other offers currently

at least this is in my budget

not like we can control our nation's currency rate

[drifting dagger]

Ye

[flint fog]

90 for the coin bundle

That's oof

[tardy fiber]

yep just gonna buy the basic

[sturdy hatch]

You were just warned for going off topic elsewhere

Please keep your messages to the appropriate channels

[chrome nest]

Venting my frustration of decisions because I can

Anyways

I can’t decide still with victini or genesect

[worldly knot]

Eh i thought on resource saving is okay

That's why i go here

Okay if it's not allowed here too, sorry

[upbeat lotus]

#salt-channel is the right place

[worldly knot]

Go Victini haha

[tardy fiber]

yep if you want to rant about bad luck its salt channel

people is trying to save in here

[chrome nest]

I don’t know if it’s helping or hurting

[worldly knot]

Yea but so sad no one is talking there, feel like talking to a wall

[sturdy hatch]

There is always #poma-lounge

[tardy fiber]

because here is a saving place, if you want to go talk about other poma stuff its in #poma-lounge ...i also talk there

[chrome nest]

Just to have free units discussion in here

Ghetsis ex is good

[tardy fiber]

i already use him in cs, cannot wait for his power boost

[upbeat lotus]

i havent unlocked his ex yet

[chrome nest]

I have

[tardy fiber]

also silver clearing fire weak easily again

[chrome nest]

Damn free legends ex are dominating

[tardy fiber]

i already unlocked Ghetsis EX as well

cannot wait for sycamore EX

already 150 him

[chrome nest]

I saw people being mad at his grid expansion

[tardy fiber]

probably because his base kit already good

so they just add mid stuffs for expansion but i like that glaciate mgr 9 though

[chrome nest]

There’s a reason why silver and zinnia got a good buff because they’re base kit weren’t as good

[worldly knot]

I guess ghetsis ex is good right? The sync mus have hit hard

[chrome nest]

Yes

[upbeat lotus]

he is already good at base, and his grid is loaded with multipliers

[tardy fiber]

kinda , also like that he is a good ice damage dealer that doesnt need hail stuffs

[worldly knot]

Btw what are you guys saving for?

[upbeat lotus]

his power boost solves his another problem: gauge and self buff

[tardy fiber]

faves...not sure about others, but i only collect legendaries/mythical/UBs...others in here collected based on regions also got some based on fashion criteria

[upbeat lotus]

since all of my favs are in the game, so im just saving for their alts or pairs that I like

[worldly knot]

Hmm when i can off type lg i think i have to keep saving just for legendaries and op unit

I kind of sad i didnt get suicune

Johto is my fav pokemom version

[tardy fiber]

here also got people that save for OP units, but you need to be strong and skip all non-OP units

[worldly knot]

I wish tyranitar get a shiny version and op

[tardy fiber]

like if i chase OP, i would already get ash and sstred...but i skipped due to not legendaries/mythicals/UBs

[worldly knot]

Yea im still pulling because i still cant comfortably clear lg till 10 streak

[worldly knot]

Haha pikachu is a must have because they are an anomali

So friggin weak on any pokemom version

But super steong in anime like wth

[tardy fiber]

i skipped all 3 anniversary Master fairs

[worldly knot]

Damn

[tardy fiber]

not faves = skip

[worldly knot]

Haha tru tru good that you know what you want

[tardy fiber]

if you pull for everything, you wont have gems when a unit you wanted appear

[worldly knot]

I just dont really have a fave

So i need to decide every month haha

[tardy fiber]

not like we can reach pity in 9k but its 36.6k gems

and this month only give 26k gems

you wont have a pity if you start from 0 gems on november

unless you can

better start budgetting your expenses

[worldly knot]

Haha i am

I still have 81k

But i cant keep this up forevee

I mean when there are 3 mf, i will have literally 0 gems

And having 0 gems feels suck, the feeling that you wont be able to get pity is painful

[tardy fiber]

you probably fine, because you have 81k now so if you skip other units this month...you can reach pity

for 3 units

[worldly knot]

Yea i only aim to pull 1 unit this month

And i picked victini ober hilbert and n

So im saving until dec now

[tardy fiber]

well its good if your fave is victini congrats because its your reward for saving but do not talk about stuff ||like getting this unit in 1 multi or something equivalent here|| because here is a refuge for players to avoid temptations

we got other place like #poma-lounge if want to talk about that

[worldly knot]

That's why i talk about how unlucky i am so that people wont pull haha

[tardy fiber]

anything below pity is lucky

yours is below pity

9 multi is 27k

[worldly knot]

Yea but that's still a lot and it's pokefair, it is completely okay on mf though

[tardy fiber]

still, if unlucky even spotlight costs pity

[worldly knot]

But it is done so i need to get move on rip

[tardy fiber]

you cannot deny that

[worldly knot]

Yea that's the worst case scenario

[chrome nest]

Victini is cute and genesect is cool

[tardy fiber]

2% to get a unit means 98% you fail

[chrome nest]

I can’t decide

[worldly knot]

Tbh that's what im thinking too haha

But i still need strong unit so i ill just go victini

[chrome nest]

As a shiny hunter

[chrome nest]

https://tenor.com/view/the-mandalorian-odds-like-those-odds-gif-15541855

[worldly knot]

Yea but with 30 attempt it shouldve been much better

[tardy fiber]

being a probability, theres always change all of your pulls hits that 98% till you reach 400/400 pity points

i know because i already experienced pity 4 times

even in pokefair

2 MF banners and 2 PF banners

and got some on 360/400