#Sync Grids
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remember when Spark was busy and the grids took a bit to update that one time?
so yeah, don't expect people to be patient or reasonable
Extra energy = more combinations = less brain activity from the beehive
~~imagine using brain, just slap rats on every content ~~
That’s not valid anymore
You need to use the brain to choose what rats to use now
Anyone have a petey sync grid?
You’re probably grabbing the damage modifiers + Sync base power tiles + whatever nearby extra(s) you prefer in the vast majority of scenarios
Petey’s grid doesn’t actually have that much in the way of universally good tiles
They’re not even gonna look at a pair’s kit before pulling them and asking if they’re good for candying 
where can i find sync grids for ghetis and kyurem
In the pins of this channel
tenks
Well, Sparky added the new units. So that's a start. Can't wait to see what they recommend.
We dont have grids for wally yet?
Spark is working on it. In the mean time you can brainstorm your own builds and send them here to get feedback
I assume you are talking about Lodge Wally
Wouldn't bother with the tackle and growl MGRs tbh
What grid should i take instead?
Maybe something like this for starters. I'm sure there's going to be better options suggested though
The best part of his kit imo is Healthy buffer 5
Can be a good tank at full health
That along with growl and TM could help tank physical stages quite well
where do i find this?
its the pinned doc
what move level is he?
i think i might need a help out on building ss red's sync grid
after all, i am new so i had no idea and put them all in heatwave and LL blast burn
Check the pinned document for grid rrecommendations
pinned documents?
Pinned Messages
Settings -> pinned messages
The 2nd link
Don't we have any chase grid in pins
Not updated yet
When Spark finishes

Or just build a grid yourself

Just re-iterating that it'll take time for this update, I'm lacking time this month. Thanks for your patience 
(meanwhile I added upgraded units for this month so that's a start I guess)
No worries Spark, take your time 

I can
I just wanna check
You can check your grid here
Yeah
Best grid for ss Rosa
Grid recommendations for NC Rosa can be found in the pinned document
I can’t see the pin
1st pinned message, 2nd link within that message
Settings -> Pinned Messages for Mobile
can someone pls help me wit a chase grid 4/5?
What's a good lucky skill for chase?
Head Start or Adrenaline
So what's a good LS for pal victor? He has adrenaline on grid and I gave him stalwart for the azelf solo which lowkey i might keep
I'm guessing head start or another adrenaline though
It’s quite flexible so depends on what you want him to do
Normally for supports we say HS1/Adr1 but there’s so many that maybe you want to make 1 support be immune to interference or status
Fair fair
He has status immunity on grid so interference immunity would be a good combo
Ty

if you're not looking for crit then why use sonia
then this? i guess
hol on, there's something better than that.
this allows flinching on tackle as an extra option
strange you don't want crit buffs, but you do you
Note that the type of your Support doesn’t matter. If you’re just looking for Defense buffs and Potion, Skyla’s a fantastic, free, option and would let you save Sonia for teams that want her full suite of buffs in content like CS
I'm trying to think of a good setup for Lusamine & Buglady
Because this isn't working for me.
Damn.
Are you looking for an on-type bug option?
Not really.
This is kinda off topic but I find it funny how her defensive stats are lower than Eggmons
Pre-EX
Just looking for a way to make her good without her dying within the next 3 minutes
I think the 20/20 is what contributes to the survivability, unfortunately.
You can’t do magic: she’s frail, so best she can do is CS-like content, unless you use something like NC blue or other comps that combine defense buffs and offense debuffs
If only endure worked vs syncs or there was another endure status change that did

Quick question, is there a team-building channel?
Just #916852389347196958
If it's the very basics you may want to check out the guide in #1010307000346878062 as well
Lusamine’s Sync Grid is kinda whatever, tbh. As someone who uses her for CS regularly, you can absolutely make her work if you want, but she does demand more help from teammates than most since she’s unlikely to survive an enemy Sync Move and has about zero self-sufficiency
I'm guessing this is the standard grid for candice?
I think I'm running the same but with double down 3 instead of the sync power
Well they said standard
You can also drop sync stuff and go for either Agg1 + Combo Freebie 3 or Physical Boost 3 + DC9
If the support can't top off the +2 attack then you should go Fierce Entry instead of sync power tiles
good suggestion
Pains of 1/5 grusha
🤝
Think i'll still run him and some other support for that +2 atk
Oh Candice is a striker/nuker?
Yes?
I never see kits for units I never pull lol
Waiting for updates grid list 
Spark has been busy
you've been told this twice
Check the pins
I swear someone just asked that
what a lovely reaction
Maybe lost in the pins

daily reminder that people have lives outside of discord and you will have to acknowledge that
im a bit miffed too but dont hound for updates he’ll let you know when it happens
That's what this channel is for.. build your own grid ask for opinions
no what people are asking for is an update to the grid list
its the same vibe as tl update when
it happens when it happens and no one but spark knows when that will be
and if hes busy hes busy hes not gonna accommodate some random cuz they asked
That's why I'm saying people need to build their own grid and ask for improvements/opinions instead of relying on a guide every time
But saying this won't change anything anyways 
i mean it seemed like it was a reply to me so my bad
Is that an OK grid for chase ?
I wouldn’t use Team Sharp Entry 1
Also if it’s 5/5 no reason to pick x spatk all mpr over sync burst 1
Well, the combination of x spatk all mpr and team grand entry 2 is redundant
I never learn 
Would this plus this tile be a good exr blue grid when the sync grid energy gets expanded, assuming a team is Paralysis reliant without sstred max move to set para
Like if I use him with anyone with Paralysis Synergy or whatever
Depends on the pair, if you're not in a EBE/UB the Atk/S.Atk down tiles aren't as required, and you go for things like Brainpower or Furious Brain instead incl HE1.
does anyone have a good 3/5 alcremie gridset?
I asked you about trying to build one ^^;;;;;;;
that's fine.. i'm just curious on what others are running?
Something like this for sp.attackers with confusion multipliers
You can try brainstorming a grid then send here to get advice on improvements
Who specifically are you trying to have him help?
The only seriously important tiles for a supportive Darach build are First Aid and TM Pep Rally
So the rest of the grid depends on who you’re trying to assist
Is there a specific reason you’re unable to fit a Support onto the team?
Battle Rally.
Support wasn't on the menu and the only option would have been to spend an EX cake and use Calem.
It was Tech/Sprint.
Well, support WAS on the menu with NC Rosa and Aura Cynth but I'd rather save those.
I’d recommend heading over to #1009564564821639379 for advice on the specific stage then, rather than focusing on grids over here
...They suggested I come here to ask for advice for a grid.
Ah
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
That’s a base for maximum debuffs
Adjust as needed, I guess
Can swap Easy Target for Defog MP Refresh, it doesn’t matter which of those tiles gets you to Weigh Down
Though tbh I don’t think you need to min-max Battle Rally that hard
just was thinking bout stuff, and, i know typically its worth it to candy favs and all but uhhh
would yall still double candy a fav if the only thing you really cared about was the bmove refresh 
cause the more i look at Gladion's grid, the more i just feel like everything else is kinda just not that important sounding considering how hard the bmove already hits
Depends what you want him to do
If it’s ontype CS then who cares

But for hard battles, the fact that his b move hits so hard is an incentive to use another one
Sure crit braindead multiplier sync is also a very good source of consistent damage for stages where you will sync many times
I will agree it sounds cool, but it never hurts to try the dude at 1/5 first tbh
Not rlly sure what to put ? I know adrenaline would be good, but after that idk where else to go lol
Ignore Quick Cure/Natural Remedy for the most part since they’re far more niche tiles, and ignore the Sync Base Power tiles since they don’t make any meaningful difference
Depending on the team and stage you may be able to get rid of Team Grand Entry fore more flexible grids, but some options to go for if you gotta keep that are Thunder Shock Hostile Environment 9 and Circle MG->2
The HE9 tile being less valuable since Chase paralyzes opponents who hit him
Endurance is also a great tile pick
Ok thank you !
Note that some more refined grids for Chase will eventually be added to the pinned document, so once that happens feel free to check it
thoughts? or should i go for a more sync focused grid
SDE isn't worth the energy, hes gonna delete ontype already without it
if you want more out of him take the 1st sync bmove refresh instead of SDE
Just got Iono to 3/5 cuz fave
And just wondering
Is there more 3/5 grids that is pretty useful that the google doc doesnt show?
What does this mean?
The doc will have a couple of generalised presets that will suit most scenarios
You're free to change the grid as you like if you're aiming for something different
Good Gladion grid?

Is there a way to get all three of Overpower, Brainpower and Fleur Cannon Accuracy tile? 3/5 SS Gladion
All the new sync pairs for this month, haven't yet been added by Spark. He's been busy I guess.

Cheapest way:
🤔
At 3/5, the 2 sync BP nodes give a higher damage boost than adding Speedster Sync 3
Would it be worth to drop +6 bp and go for the +25 on sync? (in my example above)
Small difference, up to you
Neither is wrong, I'd keep it on B Move cause funnier number
Oh its generalized
what if i drop 6 bp on bottom for mgr?
Depends on the team. Glad's pretty fast.
I... Am not very sure tbh, but I think this can brute force most of the content 
But at the same time, these 2 are very splashable top tier support too
Does anyone have a ss gladion 3/5
As well as lucky skill? I’m assuming CS2 though
And I assume player and alcremie is vigilance?
3/5 builds typically go for Brainpower + Bmove restore. The rest is dependent on the team.
Thank you, yeah I just wanted the standard grid, I can always change it to battle specific ones later
Something like this is pretty generic.
Thank you, are you running CS2 with this grid?
You could also get Discourage 2, if you wanted to sync with him first. By Dropping a sync tile and the +power nodes.
Well CS2 would be the generic damage skill, yes.
Yeah vigilance or a deluxe skill of your choice.
Though if you have ssHau, ssMina, Bede, or Penny those would be great teammate choices.
Leaf (Clefable) is a free option that has Precision Pals + Statisfied Snicker to help Gladion with Accuracy and SpA debuffing.
3 options for those looking for ssGladion:
Anyone got a grid for riley yet that has Stalwart on it?
You mean petey? There should be a grid up for him
Or I thought there was
This is what I have currently if you want to go by that for now
any builds for riley?
this is what i have for now, switch Unbending and Stalwart for whichever is more useful on the given stage since they cost the same amount of energy, should work fine otherwise for a close combat/sync grid
Thankfully I only need stalwart for next week
Being 100% honest, that grid is kinda meh outside of like, some LG stages
It was the most I knew for now tbh, I don't remember what the discussion was back then when making it
His most universally useful tiles are probably his Sync boosting tiles and Paralysis Synergy, the rest of his grid is a lot more niche
did you mean to say ramming speed cuz he doesnt have paralysis tiles
I was talking about a Petey grid
his steel setup is better than fighting
His set up is buffing speed which he does with either move
i meant his #1009587872342478908 setup 
Well it's not really better it's just that you have more things (sync) for fighting
All grids done, thanks for your patience guys, appreciate the support I got this month despite the lack of time 
#1008010844547842079 message
Awesome, thanks as always Spark (and everyone else)!
Thanks for your work as always Spark & team! 
anything else important or do i just spam hbeam tiles and whatnot from here
got dupe off the ticket
i barely use him outside of gauntlet now cuz i have 4/5 genesect
ppe1 is good for consistency but all of his game changing tiles are higher move levels
is there much reason to candy him at all when i have Gilbert 4/5 already? i assume gilbert outperforms alder usually, and its hard to fit gauge for both 4mg users id imagine
unless youre using like ncrosa or someth similar with good gauge management and long anim
Its Hilbert 
If you only care about having 1 damage dealer per type then no
Personally I think pulling for strong limited units and duping them to use them ontype (aka once every 3 weeks) is dumb
the only reason i originally owned alder was cause of that old champion ticket lol, wouldnt of ever gone for him without that old select ticket 
since at the time bug was my weakest type that the champs covered
i tried using both with nc blue and it just didnt work
yea i tried that and the gauge just... wasnt there lmao
Meanwhile CBede carried their gauge like nothing
Bede > Blue confirmed
Is anyone able to help figure out a way to get team pinpoint on this grid without getting rid of the other passives already established?
Is there a specific reason you need Status Immunity?
Very few stages have that as any form of concern
To counteract the speed drop from Para thanks to sidney
If the gauge speed is your only concern then don’t worry about that tile
Especially since Elaine is a 0-gauge Support
It will still mess with the other two
And the only version of Sidney where Paralysis is a major issue doesn’t Paralyze until right before he Syncs, when the fight is either a Sync nuke away from being done or close enough to done that it’s not gonna be a big deal
I actually beat Sidney with paralysis on me.
You can also block the Paralysis entirely with flinch or sleep
Or if he fails to use the move due to paralysis/confusion
Still the issue would've been two of my team would've gotten hit by Para here, which would significantly drop speed and make fleur cannon take forever to even use once
I would like to flinch sure but I needed a bit of reassurance
If you’re using SS Gladion then by the time Thunder Wave comes out the fight is basically over anyway, and that’s assuming Sidney even gets to use it in the first place
It’s really not that big of a problem
SS Gladion is immune to statuses anyway
But not penny
It wouldn't be just Para that'd be a problem, but also the original team I had before had no attack dropping
Or even defense raising
Wait penny can restore her own Para but only with 2/5, but I need one more support coin 
Wait for candy usage until the free tickets are done, you might get a Penny dupe for free
Anyway, it’s impossible to get TM Shielded + TPE + Overwhelm + Status Immunity all at once on Elaine
So really just another reason to not worry about Status Immunity
Plus Gladion shredded the EBE when all my other pairs were screwed. Just something to note.
Pretty sure the content in question is Fairy weak Sidney, but even still I doubt he’ll have a problem shredding through it with Fairy Rebuff
Oh yeah, I’m just making a point. Like if he shreds an EBE all on his own…then what’s Sidney to him? Nothing.
Fair
Is there at least anyone here that can buff defense and/or drop attack at once for everyone that isn't blue cause I have him for phoebe
You don’t need both Attack debuffs and Defense buffs
Just Defense buffs will be fine given how much power SS Gladion is rolling with
When Gladion is there? You need neither for a standard pre sync CSMM
He'll obliterate the stage unless you actively handicap him with bad parameters
Probably, but if extra safety is desired slapping Skyla on the team should do the job and provide gauge support to boot
Also better to go to #1009554906568462476 if you’re needing help with that now
I’m sorry Spark for what they just announced in dev letter 
Time to employ some critical thinking of your own everyone 
I mean the doc specifically indicate they consider the max potential for each sync pair so it's +10 energy for grid
It's still a lot of work but good luck spark and team
The Tierlist is max potential but the sync grids have been different move levels in the past
Just an example grid with the additional energy thing, what do you think?
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/13003/65800?s=3&l=140&r=6&p=0&a=13010602&g=AAECAwQFCgsMDxAjJSkqLC0u
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
Is that assuming 3/5 is 6 energy?
Yes
Is there a specific reason you want Refreshing Rain?
Because you can afford soften up instead
This is my grid on my "cheap" clear for Anabel
Ah, that's fair
Oh wait so the letter meant 5/5 is +10?
#poma-questions message
Gotcha
Roxanne gets slightly easier set up if 3/5 really is +6 energy 
Nicee
Not bad for him actually
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/10001/61201?s=3&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13010602&g=AAECAwQFERQVGBseICEkKCst&x=true
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
+10 energy for all 5/5 Sync Pairs. This will be interesting.
Also, I don't expect Spark to overwork themselves and make grids for the extra +2 energy for each Sync Move Level. That'd be asking for too much.
Just let us sort it out ourselves.
People will still ask for it 
I imagine they’ll just go over them in small batches or when they get expansions/etc, realistically.
We alr have people asking for 1/5 grids here
like for example maybe the LA pairs will be when their given expansion events rerun or something
Spark and team should just take it slowly 
Yeah they deserve the opportunity to chill honestly
The day after the grid energy cap unlocked is pokemon presents too
They do so much for us already
Gonna be a tad funny having presents be the “reveal” of anni units when the datamine will prob have them the day before

It's also not confirmed it's 2 energy every move level
We will know specifics tomorrow anyways
Dena could pull a +5 energy only at 4/5 and make the last move level +5 for all we know

So for now unless planning for a 5/5 grid take plans with a pile of salt
It’d be evil if it isn’t atleast 3 energy on 3/5 imo
Considering the number of grids that’d fix

How’s spark feeling about remaking all of the docs
I could see them doing +1 per with +5 extra on 5/5
Probably really bad that doc has been there for years
Would be rough but it is a thing I can see happening without causing riots
Mountain effort to remake the entire thing
I’d imagine spark will need to pin something about the subject to keep people from bugging ‘em too badly about their 10 energy extra lol
Cause knowing the community. This channels gonna get flooded tomorrow I think

I hope so too, but realistically askers gonna be coming like “what do I do for this”
I’m gonna try to come up with my own atleast for my favs but might drop by for advice between specific options if I get stumped
That’s my game plan atleast
And hey it’s finally a use for excess sync orbs
Downside is the sync grid screen is gonna be flooded with the “grid available” icon when I had it closing in on completed

It's just speculation now, it could very well be 0/0/0/5/5 or even 0/0/0/0/10 for all they care
No Unova Circle Extension tho 
Is this better?
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/10001/61201?s=5&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13010602&g=AAECAwQFERITFhkbHiAhJCgrLQ&x=true
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.

Wut ye think? It has all the multipliers
I think you should see the grid I replied to
Because it's exactly the same as the one you posted
Grabbing all multipliers isn't always better
How is it exactly the same? It doesn't have the two +25 sync move tiles and I have Speedster's Sync 5 in its place

Oh well
The grid I replied to
Hmmmm, you're right, dropping Speedster's Sync is better
What is a good grid for Riley?
Check the pins
Ok. Thank you.
The only one who has a 1/5 grid, realistically, is Serena and Delphox.
Or Steven.
You can pick almost everything with Steven
Serena does have combinations at 1/5 but you'd have to be really newbie to ask what to pick
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1psfsIU__D0drrAMSXQNEs5-u1oaBAgMi568y-KjHeX4/edit#heading=h.2c53ktpzk51b
I've started doing 5/5 grids for some units, currently all Story + Legendary Adventures + non-master BP
Mael adds another doc to his maintaining list 
I find it neat that some pairs use up all energy at 1/5 haha. 750 exactly
Well I guess we know what to use all our coop sync orbs on lol
Guess we’re buying all those sync orbs from events now lol
time to pick and choose, at least it won't be as overwhelming to go over our grids 

Well, guess I’m being picky about these. Least we were right in the scaling. 
Might convince me to 4/5 one of my master fairs but not till I have a bigger orb surplus
Tbh thankful that it isn’t gonna leave my entire page of “unspent orbs” icon
Much more expensive than I thought, sheesh. Gonna be grinding the Sync Orb daily thing again
Aight anni Lillie is an easy pick for me
But do I want power flux 3 or propulsion 1 with that 10 extra energy

How much is the damage boost with power flux?
+0.03 per gauge
I dunno if I will really maintain it ahah
I wonder if i should replace this node with brainteaser or cakewalk (it’s mechbert 5/5)
& the gang, never forget them 😛
Any good?
With energy cap increase
Yeah, you hit all the important tiles
Better than the celesteela pair?
I heard she nukes harder than her
Dang
Should I take brave bird mgr?
No need to do that, gauge shouldn’t be an issue with proper teambuilding
"Redemption" implies that Skyla's worst current alt is anything less than a solid option
Which is not the case, since Skyla's worst alt is still a solid option
Yea my bad
Would I rather pick up the +20 attack in the top right or the sync node?
Neither 

I'd rather pick either oar1, fa4 or speedy entry 2
Usually with him I do dojo gloria and nc calem and I wanted the -3 countdown
Forgor calem had propulsion on TM
So yeah speedy entry would be better
You'll have a hard time buffing your speed
he only has ft3 and speedy entry iirc i think you’d want someone else to buff speed
Fast track 2 
ew
Yea
He has a dire need for a masters day expansion
Hence my name
If he got another speedy entry or maybe ft9 i'd be content
hooray!
That looks pretty good to me 
Oh @shrewd sparrow Just wanna double check: you didn’t input the energy cap into PoMa Tools, right?
Oh so you weren’t planning to. Ok that’s fine too! Just wanted to double check it all.
I could do stuff, but it works even without it 
Maybe we’ll wait for now to see if it becomes a demand.
It shouldnt
As long as you can count it's unnecessary
Which I would hope people know how to count
you'd be surprised 
hold on is this grid actually good or not idk lol
People should learn to screenshot the energy in use too when sharing grids
is something like this good for scirida? thinking would prob be looking at EVictor + an EVA buffer for sides, with syncing victor first then irida
gonna have to dig to see if we have a crit+eva buffer that id have access to, prob
first thought was lodgerola but she only selfbuffs eva it looks like
ny lillie 
If you’re ok using Dire Hit+ once then BP Janine
I'd just bet on NC Rosa to top up 
the one Lillie that I don't own lmao
She's too bad to justify a slot for her to get +2 evasion
trying to make a dps build, is it ok
is dps purely move damage
cuz imo its a waste to not pick brainpower at least
especially since ur getting brainteaser which means his innate is also being set up
yea it works like a second dps when you do elec/fire/water/ice
his off type nuke is meh so i dont take sync node anw
i mean why should you off type with him when you can just sync with the on type unit
i have a full sync nuke build for bug stage but that's a different story
im pretty sure off type his nuke is still strong but you need to build for it differently as a whole
and im not sure if you can get the second rebuff
his good nodes are too far from each other so it's a pain to get all of them 
exactly
anw my dps build idea is using him in a duo ''strike" team, so sync with on type unit and just maximize his dps is better imo
what does bug enigma even do
-1 spdef in bug stage but i just pick it for cheapest way for 2nd rebuff
no wait it's -1 spdef when his move is bug type so it can also debuff in other stages excluding 4 other ontype ones but eh you wont use him outside that anyway
His offtype damage is very good both sync and attack move
More like it's super overkill to get a 5/5 SS Hilbert to use ontype, but ok at least this is a unit that ontypes 5 types
For +6 Energy, how does this look for 3/5 ncRed
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/949078726228987954/1211901520715710494/image.png?ex=65efe23e&is=65dd6d3e&hm=f1a1bd6ce2fd7761382c48b701910d9924e30fed3d2f4ecaba0e9d3a93dc0218&
here my full nuke build, he really cant pick both 
can get 1 more sync node by removing brainteaser
not sure if -2 rebuff + brainpower is better than -1 rebuff + brainpower + cakewalk
nice idea tyty
you'd go from Raw 6,509,160 to 8,548,254
so 30% stronger sync with the later
depends on the partner, I wouldn't want him to have to setup both def and speed debuffs
i just want to find a way to get both brainpower and cakewalk, there's not any better than super slowering for the rest of energy
or you can go for more techno blast nodes ig
I’d take it 
Tho I’m wondering why not Furious Brain
Looks like he's aiming for 1st sync deletion
Hey, question, how is the sync grid list gonna change with the new energy cap raising?
just curious since some routes seme like htey'd cahnge a good bit with the extra allowance you get from 3/5.
guessing i'tll take a bit before they update?
sorry if I"m sounding stupid on this.
Ive given max70 for cynthia, palkia, solgaleo, mew and bruno. Im waiting to put them around stages.
there is a lot of pair to update so it will take a long time
dont expect to see it soon
So would there be a guide in who to prioritise for the energy increase especially for gen pool units
for now, no
with 10 additional energy Tate can pick Aggravation on his nuke grid now
this is literally the best unit to unlock more energy on everyone should do that
which + is best for both [or at least the most consistent]? (sry i haven't been on this game for a really long time)
there is no best grid, each one has at least an use
you should read the disclaimer at the top of the doc first
1st and last time I'll ever increase energy cap
based choice
Sorry for ping but this is what I use
But if you want to nab Brainpower I use this
What's this?
You can now raise the energy cap on grids to a maximum of 70. Max of +2 energy per Move Level, need 20k co-op Sync Orbs to increase the cap by 2 energy
You need to manually increase the cap by using 20k co-op orbs per 2 energy added
If the attempt at increasing the cap goes to red negative then you don't have enough orbs
It is huge, luckily though you can get 100k sync orbs a month through battle rally
400k better than most
Most of the time you never need to invest a full +10, but 2 or 4
ig ill hold on them for now
Endgame/Whale
Need to be 5/5 to get the full 10 energy
Yes, but a lot of pairs don't necessarily need the full 10 energy
There's lots of cases where a pair is only a couple energy short of having a particular grid setup
yup, my metagross now have 10 extra energy to use on fking ntg
cause the expansion on 4 and 5 are so bad bruh 
wish yall make a list on who have prior to unlock cap, that's too many sync pair for me to go through 
All sync pairs love the extra energy so there’s no set list
At some point in the future the grid doc is likely gonna be updated, but it's gonna be a very slow process due to how many beneficiaries there are
I would say you should reserve it for OP Favorites by experimenting on pomatools
ss hilbert got a good upgrade with just +6
Same with NC Red
+4 Sonia can pick up both Potion MPR, TM MPR and crit, and Spark HE and Fast track
If only on the ropes 8 wasn’t in the way
curse that damned tile
Grid expansion when
What grid are you using?
Dropping Shielded let's you go for a +4 Aggravate Waterfall with either MPR or 30 speed
Or just drop XSpeed MPR to get both and shielded at +10
Grid for Rose at 4/5 with the Extra Energy (Let’s you pick up the extra Dynamax Node)
Nothing too insane from my view on his Grid, will be looking at 5/5 Lysandre next
Some units must have bigger jumps here
Being able to use this at 4/5 is great
Oh the Sync Nuke 
gmax nuke*
Real
its 600 bp lol
660
Given the new changes in grids, will the kits be updated in the doc or not?
check the newest annoucement in #1008010844547842079
What is the best sync grid for him 3/5
Grid recommendations are in the pinned document
I highly recommend taking some time to really look at grid recommendations for all Sync Pairs and compare them to the base kits so you can get a better understanding of which Sync Pairs like which grid tiles
Many time I try to find the pinned don’t find it
Ooh thanks 🙏
Yeah I hate it
Looking for good NCSilver Grid for SSDiantha; probably going to run something like Paulo or Ingo as third idk yet
Have this for 3/5 with extra energy unlocked
Literally what I asked to lol
Don't know if Piercing Gaze is worth it though
It's not
I am still not sure if I should sync with him first and then SSDiantha for clearing mid
Are you intending to sync with Silver at all?
Okay, should I go for more support nodes then?
I actually don't know
I think not, since I will likely want to sync with Diantha and my Support if I can figure that out
Currently have Paulo as third and he wants to sync
The Mega tax is tempting though for Silver
is this a good geeta grid? i ended up deciding to take a peek at her kit and, uh, yeah
no clue how good she actually is but, setupless dps that smacks everyone seems... interesting.
i dont really think she needs gauge increase so maybe drop that for the rock slide tile and get the pmun?
like this? would need 60k
to fit mighty friend tho
my backlog of that is already like 780k or so
ally sets
i dont think mighty friend is necessary
Depends on if +4 PMUN is needed in a certain scenario

…eh?
Her TM already gives +3
i know
Mighty Friend would make it +4
but the tile i mentioned would start her at +1 and gives her +4 for B mortal spin
its more selfish but i think its a better tile overall
I'd say this is the mandatory skeleton grid for standard Geeta build, 9 (15) energy left for something like sync BP node, mighty friend 9, potent toxin 2 or poisonous acceleration 2
is ruthless toxin not worth it then?
its more of a gauntlet tile
ah
I can’t decide which unit to break cap of LMAO
BP Morty
You can make an alternative grid with it and maybe pair it with her personal lucky skill for stages that are heavily influenced by debuffs
Otherwise the only debuff you care about is defense + her ideal partner is Oleana anyways 
Ig since Geeta has so much PMUN she won’t miss out on too much from CS2 in favour of her Custom LS? 
I guess we can swap it around whenever so it shouldn’t matter
Probably not that great for shorter battles anyway
Yeah you can swap and drop CS2 for those kind of stages
What’s the benefit of unlocking energy caps ? Am confused about the feature lol
its fairly self explanatory
more energy for grids but it costs a lot of orbs
Energy is the thing that caps how many sync tiles you can take
Meaning we can go over the 750 ?
Pretty much
Also - am a returning player so trying to catch up
it goes from 60 to 70 at 5/5 each move level increments by 2
Ty for the info !
Whats a good 70 energy 3/5 grid for Iono?
Im too broke
so its a 66 energy grid
So the 70 is not worth at 3/5?
you cant get 70 energy if ur unit isnt 5/5
Oh
it goes up 2 energy from every move level
What can I do with a 66 energy Iono
So sad
Is it worth it to give up on that +20 spark and exchange for 6 more energy to grid him for that hail boost as well?
its a curse that increase cap is now where reset grid used to be. while updating gloria's grid cuz i got her 3/5 i unlocked 4 more energy for her 
damn you muscle memory
What grids have you guys been giving extra energy to? My Cynthia is 5/5 so i gave her the full 70 so I could grab Ramming Speed on top of all of the sandstorm setting tiles
I've just been giving it to my favs (Raihan, SS Grim, NC Nate)
I'd say just do about the same, if the extra 2-10 energy can improve any of your favorites go for it
Plenty of them. Like Dragonite 5/5. All i know is, 1mil sync orbs down to 100k ish now💀
How is this grid for leon
Not sure I really like it because it misses power flux and his damage feels low w/o but maybe the smart command will make it fine
Power Flux 3 is 12-18% damage at most depending on if you have 4 or 6 bars for the fight
I think he’ll probably be fine without
Is there a list to know which units have been unlocked new sync tiles?
I just noticed some have new tiles
You can see which Sync Pairs are getting new grid tiles this month over in #1012256199128915968
Something is wrong with Karen's bite+poison build in the doc. It says 748 orbs with 1 energy remaining, but when I try to copy it in game it goes -1 orb and you need to unlock the grid.
Hmm, weird
Ah. No worries, it happens and the mistake was realized quickly
What’s the kind of standard Geeta grid people are running?
Scroll a bit up
Any lucky skill recommendations for Argenta and Skarmory? I just realized they had Vigilance in their grid once at 3/5
its in the sync grid doc pinned here in case you missed my advice in #poma-questions
Couldnt you take the 2 moonblasts on the right instead to save energy
Or is it more expensive
I would just ignore midpoint mend and go for the bottom right since she has self heals, that and danger guard can cover for that 1 turn of moonlight
Fair, thanks for both of the suggestions. I'll take them into consideration
Wow exclusive lucky skills are a thing now. Definitely might affect grid building and a units strength.
Presets are good for that
I need to spend some orbs today before reset. Too many pairs! 🫠
The only psychic notable expansion I saw was being able to give up a sync tile to get Hide and Sync on Lusamine. But afaik there are no psychic Acc debuffers
About that #bot-zone message
Yes I know, Bianca’s is random, but it’s something
Get that Unfortituos out of my face
Yes cs2 is more reliable, but if you have a spare slot is great
Personally I have pinpoint entry and headstart as spare lucky skills for my 1/5 lance so I will keep cs2
Why didn’t Oak show up. He has unfort9
When kinesis Alakazam?
bot is a bit weird sometimes with search
I remember getting only a couple results for evasion buffs when it was supposed to return more
Prob because Annie specified ‘an opponent’
Oak is aoe
May I introduce expanded +6 energy Discombob LuSSa
What’s a good grid for Duraludon at 3/5?
ok, tried a search and it was lame, no results lol, no idea why
Check the grid document for recommended 3/5s
Steel is mostly top left quadrant
Where can I find that?
In the pins
Oh I found it
Maybe the bot needs to be fixed with that ig
Yeah the bot is definitely broken lmao
It thinks red sets pt

#bot-zone message
Oh I forgot to reply, checking into it
Best skill for Geeta is CS2?
Most generic, but it gets diluted with her multipliers and PMUNs so you can use her personal skill or some other utility not missing much by dropping CS2
I personally use her unique cause basically might as well be unfort9 on lucky skill with her kit 
Fun unit for unga bunga enjoyer like me
I just love how you can swap between her exclusive skill, CS2 and Head Start or something at will... Lucky Skill changes were A+
we love flexibility
What Legendary Adventure Pair got the most benefit from extra energy?
Anybody have a standard grid for NC Silver? Also he is CS2 lucky skill?
+gridlist here
Document by Spark#8888, found in #1008010844547842079
Sync Grid Builds & Tier List - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vF42uzF-xpkcfIU2gVEY4Dl7sS_I3ITj8g5X2lo1usA/edit?usp=sharing
Actually immediately making use of the extra energy option
This feels like the right grid for all around use
Can I copy that? I doubt his sync can nuke, so I want some balance between sync and buddy move.
Do you have other options you can grid first?
i got 1/5 ss steven
Most pairs want 3/5 before grid is fine to grid.
😦
Because at lower levels, just take whatever is there.
But it’s better to see if you have other options for gridding first. Like if you’re new, the Legendary Adventures pairs get 5/5 for free.
if i can get the f2p lucario 5/5 gonna grid him then
Then focus on that first if your orbs are low as well. Better to use them wisely in that case.
so something insane i found that I will be doing..... if you uncap Elaine.... 
I can't believe Elaine has the Power of Pi.
this is solely for omni debuffing and increasing her defenses from passives.
erm
sterner stuff and brain brawn are damage reduction
if you need the defense buffs you need shielded and barricade buddies
i know they're damage reduction, that's what i meant. apologies
hmm well i guess that makes sense
but i think you could get the def buffs
or one of them at least
You can also get a grid with SS2+Shielded and another with BB2+Barricade Buddies
yeah
And if the stage is dual sided I would prefer stat buffs because they're for all the team
and I can still get Slippery for evasion strats if need be.
Yeah in general she gets a great boost from energy cap, she has many useful nodes
Like literally if you read every red and yellow node you could say they're all good
Except Protect MGR4 lol
(3) Crystalline Aqua Tail: Power +25
(3) Crystalline Aqua Tail: Power +25
(1) Mega Kick: Move Gauge Refresh 3 - Has a chance (40%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when a move is successful.
(1) Pick Up the Pace!: MP Refresh 2 - Has a chance (30%) of restoring one MP of the user's move when that move is successful.
(1) Waterfall: Move Gauge Refresh 3 - Has a chance (40%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when a move is successful.
(1) X Attack: MP Refresh 3 - Has a chance (40%) of restoring one MP of the user's move when that move is successful.
(2) Pick Up the Pace!: Fleet Feet 1 - Raises the user's Speed by 1 stat rank when its move is successful.
(2) Pick Up the Pace!: MP Refresh 2 - Has a chance (30%) of restoring one MP of the user's move when that move is successful.
(3) Waterfall: Aggravation 1 - Raises the chance of inflicting the flinching, confused, or trapped condition with the additional effects of moves.
(3) Waterfall: Ramming Speed - The more the user's Speed is raised, the more it powers up the user's moves.
(2) Critical Focus 1 - Raises the user's critical-hit rate by 1 stat rank when it lands a critical hit.
(2) Dynamic Entry - Applies the Sure Hit Next effect to the user when it enters a battle.
(2) Haymaker - The more the user's Attack is raised, the more it powers up the user's sync move.
(2) Pinpoint Entry 2 - Raises the user's accuracy by 2 stat ranks when it enters a battle.
(3) Build Up - Applies the Critical Hit Next effect to the user after using its sync move.
(3) First Aid 4 - Restores the user's HP by approximately 40% of its maximum HP the first time it is in a pinch each battle.
(3) Inertia - The more user's Speed is raised, the more it powers up the user's sync move.
(3) Power Reserves 2 - Powers up the user's moves when it is in a pinch.
(3) Super Powered 5 - Powers up the user's moves and sync move that are super effective.
(3) Unyielding 2 - Except in certain circumstances, when the user's Enduring effect activates and the user has 1 HP remaining, has a chance (30%) of applying the Enduring effect to the user again.
@blissful plume for personal uses please use commands in #bot-zone
Ok and sorry.....
What's a recommended 1/5 champion silver sync grid
There are none, he doesn’t have any notable tiles available at 1/5
So just get everything
I’d personally recommend not getting anything yet and saving the orbs for pairs with more grid access
A full 1/5 grid on NC Silver is gonna have less impact than a full 3/5 grid on someone else
He is still usable then yeah
Yeah, his base kit is super strong
Which May and which Steven?
Ss Steven and 2022 Anni may
They work fairly well together by virtue of Anniversary May setting Psychic Terrain, which boosts SS Steven’s damage
I see thank you cobalt
Is sand hit pmun or whatever worth it? Just looking at the grid to gauge how big the nuke is. Since his grid looks to be mostly nuke from what I’m reading
I know the doc doesn’t really cover expansion for most part so just figured I’d ask directly here
Cause I’m more than willing to energy expand master fairs
for 20k orbs thats fine tbh
but also considering the fact his passives are 70%
pmun has the potential to be diluted
Fair. I could also get the accuracy tile for stone edge I suppose.
Either way his sync for a mega doesn’t seem bad at all, glad he has the two 9 multis rather than just one or something
Probably will end up doing redcuno first unless I end up unhappy with base
Just my personal opinion. Maybe can forego the sand hit physical boost 9 and the top sync tile for entry physical boost 2
No need of extra energy as well
Then you'd be using TM, Johto circle, sync and get like a +5 PMUN boosted B rock slide. Trying to compensate for his sync kinda overlooks his best stuff which is the B move
Better not to quad queue after sync since you will be flinching either ways
And sprint role EX as well
NC Silver has a bad sync?
oh its base 192
you can bring it up to 242 tho
and sand blaster 9 ofc
Yeah personally I don't see the point of 3/5 him for my team since Paulo will always take the first sync
His utility is good too but not necessary too
You kinda just get the sync bp tiles and any important yellow/red tiles at 2/5 for your prefs I think if not mistaken…
Most pairs are self explanatory on what you get at 2/5
Hence why the doc usually waits for 3/5 to even give grids
The purple tiles. Usually in places like this
Although I think all of stevens are like middle top of his?
Just double checked
Three up there and the other top left at 3/5
I got all 3 at top
How should i grid the f2p lucario
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Sounds cool, I've been messing around mainly with my limiteds over 5/5 to see if any gets a noticeable boost
I liked SS Roxie for example
Sync Grids are done 
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hi! what sync grid would u guys reccomend for 4/5 sabrina & alakazam from the ones on the doc?
I have SS Steven, mentioning just cause it might be relevant info
You can copy all her 3/5 builds and make up to 4 presets
I dont have that many orbs I think to do 3 diff presets
or do I just have to spend once
nvm I went for it and checked how it works LOL, ty I didnt know that!
Yup, making new presets doesnt cost additional orbs
Resetting entire grid doesnt cost any orbs either
With the caveat that the orbs are converted to pair-specific orbs
But as long as you plan to grid the pair anyway there’s no waste
I assume this grid is fine for 3/5 Tank T-Tar?
I can’t say I recommend a tank grid in general on NC Silver
There's one in the pins but for 4/5, I guess it mainly caters to his support capabilities
I’d imagine that’s largely more oriented towards longer content like LG
I could be wrong though
Certainly possible, I just like having the presets set in case they're needed or I want to test stuff out. Grid looked fun, offering damage reduction and still offering Circle extention
… huh
Lodge Skyla’s double down/ super synced grid in the doc needs 762 energy. Was that intentional?
you can expand your energy from 60-70 depending on ur move level. id imagine most new pairs will have grids with more than 60 energy going forward
No I know that we can do it, it’s just that it’s the first grid I saw that broke the 750 energy
I think there’s a few grids here and there of extra energy, it’s just not something that’ll be done for every Sync Pair (and it may even only be done for future Sync Pairs)
Gotcha
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Most new units and updates got some examples with some extra energy (not going too far unless it's units with 4/5 and 5/5 tiles in general)
Now I guess "budget" grids make sense (I mean standard 60 energy) since the unlock is quite expensive and expanding an unit to 70 feels like giving Rolex since it takes a while to farm 100k orbs
I would say for stuffs like lodge, BP, or old gen pool, I guess 70 energy grids are feasible if you can afford the orbs and the grid gets much better
Personally I'm trying to just unlock the cap for units that really need that extra tile and I'll try to cap just for that tile
Is it just Paulo, Annihan, and SSDiantha that get major power boosts from the cap increase?
Because those are the only names listed so I assume so
Or at least for now perhaps
Because Rose also sort of gets places with the new sync energy increase
Not at all, it's just units that I play a lot myself (and benefit from it), so I went for the boost. The grids doc is initially for myself so I just update it as I go ^^
Ah that sounds good then, thanks for the clarification

Does Lysandre getting the ability to hit Brainpower+CS3 help him a lot? He has the ability to hit another utility nod with the increased cap at 5/5 but I don’t have enough orbs to actually test it out for myself.
I really like Downside Up as a nod but Rejuvenation 6 is also decent for double Striker
he really just wants downside up and brainpower
i guess but hes more of a tank ironically enough
Yes Lysandre benefits from the increased cap, cause he can get both the Tank/Utility tiles alongside dmg increase. Though it's irrelevant if you're not planning to tank with him and just focus on DPS
isnt he still worse than post expansion blue tho
i think its a waste to take him all the way to 5/5 and not capitalize on his tanking capability
Comparison wasn't the point anyways, he's not strictly a DD regardless. And yes, going 5/5 is mostly for tanking + DPS niche, otherwise might as well go for better DD units. But anyone is free to invest in what they like and the question was about him specifically ^^
In regards to tanking, having him be the lead unit is tanking?
Or just regarding taking damage?
Is this a good grid for Piers?
first slot
healthy buffer 5 + downside up and oblivion wing’s self recovery makes him very legit as a tank
There is a .doc listing option to unlock cap Grids ??

Oh right. I asked this before but no one answered so I'm asking again.
After getting all Obstruct tiles, you are pretty much all set
Sweet.
Would be better to check the pins for Piers grids too. You'd probably want to take the TM refresh tile since in content like CS you'd not want to use obstruct at all or at least until the centre is down
I haven’t messed with the increased caps too much, are there any noteworthy callouts that yall have seen that benefit a bunch?
There are too many pairs to list, so we often advise people to uncap faves / sync pairs you enjoy using
Understand it’s stupidly expensive to uncap
100k sync orbs for a full uncap
I foolishly didn't bother too much collecting excess sync orbs because I didn't think I needed them with all my grids up to date, how much of a fool am I now 
We were all played by DeNA, no worries
Me literally a month ago: “I’ll never go through over 100k orbs”
Me when seeing the costs: “I’ll never catch up on orbs”
The cockiness you have... I envy it.
Is SC adamans grid worth using candies to get him to 3/5
If your goal is to nuke with him, he gets Haymaker and Wounded Sync-Up 9 at 3/5
If not he does solid DPS at 1/5, Nuke does have an inate via Passive but full Nuke gets unlocked then at 3/5
Hello, is there a roll cake tier list somewhere? I’m a returning player would be helpful to know what cake to invest into and what units should be priority
There is, yes. You can check the list here: #1010259551225921626 message. Keep in mind that its missing March datamine units
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Thanks!
His sync doesn’t have an innate
It’s just an additive multiplier
It would add up with Wounded Sync-Up 9 and Haymaker
Probably should have just said it's in his 1/5 kit
go viral with troublemaker would be enough
if you want the sing acc tile for extra assurance go for it
you can swap skills now
so its fine
It’s been awhile, can you give me the sync grid spreadsheet? Thanks.
+gridlist
Document by Spark#8888, found in #1008010844547842079
Sync Grid Builds & Tier List - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vF42uzF-xpkcfIU2gVEY4Dl7sS_I3ITj8g5X2lo1usA/edit?usp=sharing
its also in pins
Can I have 3/5 grid of ssa cynthia
+gridlist and control f lucario
Document by Spark#8888, found in #1008010844547842079
Sync Grid Builds & Tier List - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vF42uzF-xpkcfIU2gVEY4Dl7sS_I3ITj8g5X2lo1usA/edit?usp=sharing
I have a 5☆ support move candy, is SS Blue or SS Morty more beneficial?
I know ss blue is fairly useful in most cases, but i can make a busted team with time with ss morty
My main team and the ss morty one in question im working on
(Hope this counts as channel appropriate)
Blue gains more from the 2/5, whereas Morty mainly gets sun refresh
So I would say blue unless you want to 3/5 Morty in the future
Plan to have them both maxed eventually, but just want to know the better current upgrade
Personally won't use any candies unless I can make them 3/5 immediately. If sun MPR isn't an issue, then focus on SSBlue.
Would it be fair to say 3/5 blue then candy morty after?
i would candy Morty to 2/5 first before candying Blue to 3/5
SS Blue is one of the rare cases where the 2/5 tiles help more than the 3/5 tiles
Well, happened to get a 5☆ tech candy too; is lucas 2/5, ss may 3/5, ss korrina 2/5, or (dont have yet but will be pulling for) ss renegade cynthia 2/5 the best choice.
(Apologies for how diverse the spread is here)
I plan to have all of these units (and their team partners) maxed out eventually. But in terms of who benefits the most im stuck on
(Other teams above)
If you're just using Lucas to support SS Serena candies will do nothing
His 3/5 allows him to strike out on his own
Would suspect other techs the same wanting 3/5 not 2/5
Well even if i only have one candy now, the suggestion i get is what ill candy to 3/5 when i get the next tech candy
So, technically whats best at 3/5 to rephrase my question
Well I guess not Lucas as you have a 5/5 SS Serena. Maybe Korrina, Annilili has fallen off a bit and SSTR Cynthia can still provide zone.
SS May is good but not sure she is better than Hilda Victini
Personally not too fessed with high level meta (at least yet)
As long as its decent its good for me
These teams will stay as they are unless a better unit comes along and i manage to get it
Well they're all already decent ! That's the issue !
Yeah but they can be more decent :>
I guess ill either use it on ss korrina/sstr cynthia, as im currently planning on building my ghost team up
Might just alternate candy or smth
Only the biggest gigachads will do this
Funny that they let you do it
Doubt they will ever give them a grid
@ruby trench
Thank you
Is there a consensus on a good 3/5 Dahlia grid?
Is 3/5 ss korrina or 3/5 ssr cynthia better? Gonna candy one of them
SSR Cynthia
Depends, 1/5 SSR Cynthia kit is still functional, SS korinna one is pretty bad at 1/5, but Cynthia is a better unit overall I would say
I would say SS korinna 1/5 is only useful in champion stadium presync, where you don't need much mp to clear the stage
Before I’ll get the move candy and give it to special costume Irida, is there a sync nuke buff in the grid?
Yes she has nuke at 3/5
She has blind spot at base, but her nuke isn't that great unless 3/5
Oh. Did someone updated her grid?
its better than 95% of strikers that dont even have an innate multiplier
I mean with ex role her nuke is good even at 1/5 but at that point 3/5 Is much better
Yes it is, but i wouldn't call those 95% strikers nukers
Her 1/5 nuke is fine, but at 3/5 rolex it becomes a really strong nuke
Plus at 1/5 she can't even max blind spot, and evasion buffs aren't that common
It's stronger than most techs
How does her b move work? You can activate it turn 2 if you queue 3 moves turn 1?
Gauge: 4 | Power: 170 | Accuracy: 100 | Uses: -
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
Lowers the target's Attack by 1 stat rank.
Gauge: - | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 2
Target: All allies
Effect Tag: -
Raises the critical-hit rate of all allied sync pairs by 2 stat ranks.
Gauge: - | Power: 200 | Accuracy: 100 | Uses: 2
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: Quick Move
Activation Condition: When any allies use moves a total of 3 times.
Deactivation Condition: When this move is used.
This attack's power is doubled against targets that are affected by a status condition, flinching, confused, or trapped. Lowers the target's Attack by 4 stat ranks. Makes the target flinch.
Gauge: - | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 1
Target: Self
Effect Tag: -
Raises the user's Sp. Atk and evasiveness by 4 stat ranks. Applies the Free Move Next effect to the user.
Power: 250
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
No additional effect.
yeah i think so
I don't know if I should summon her, I have 1/5 renegade Cynthia, I could candy and Rolex her but I really hate 80% crit nukes, on the other hand if I candy and Rolex Irida instead she has soften up in the grid, but o don't have her, maybe I should wait datamine to decide
Is this good?
I have never thought of these before.





