You can pair with Dojo Gloria for the Speed and Def debuffs as well.
#Sync Grids
kindred stag
Am I dumb or are those 2 the exact same skill
vivid yoke
I think Gobsmack is specifically for "attack" moves that deal damage. Flabbergast can be on status moves. I believe Erika's stun spore has a flabbergast node
In that context there is no difference though. I have no clue why they made 2 different names for whats almost the same skill
That feint attack is for fall caitlin im guessing?
kindred stag
yes
All units with Gobsmack could've Flabbergast instead
None of them has a status move that target the opponent
weird
gentle sun
Eh, not like it makes much of a difference
wintry mauve
dense eagle
How much of a requirement is 3/5 for Ash and Red?
sweet parcel
3/5 Ash and Red unlocks their nuking potential
For Ash, 1/5 is enough for buddy move
While 3/5 Red unlocks some utility
dense eagle
Alright. I have almost 2 candies of each, but don't know if I should 3/5 them or keep them for now
sweet parcel
Can you take screenshots of your 5*/6* strike and tech roster? You might have better options to candy, since both Ash and Red are good at 1/5
dense eagle
Everythibg else relevant is at 3/5. Deoxys at 2/5. SSethan at 1/5. Rest are already 3/5
I guess I'll wait for next CS. See if 10k is doable or not
echo crypt
that's a low bar for those 2 lol
worldly kettle
Is there a RedChu grid that's obviously better? I get that both builds are gonna shred through opponents, but is one standing out over the other?
Talking about the sync nuke and the MAX move grids ^
kindred stag
imo the max move is better used as a "support" move to paralyse everyone, so i'd say the full nuke grid is better
cloud crane
The max move also skips a whole turn to get to your sync quicker and a whole round of moves with an extra sync buff
echo crypt
best is relative as usual, depends on what your goal in a specific battle is, but I guess damage wise yeah, nuke it is
worldly kettle
Gotcha, thank you 💚
sly fulcrum
The max move also skips a whole turn to get to your sync quicker and a whole rou...
It doesn't skip a whole round of moves because max moves don't count as 1, if u triple queue like normal there will be one countdown missing
cloud crane
You could quad queue
sly fulcrum
I meant first sync cycle
celest fox
I don't think you need Sync Regen since if pairing with those two you probably don't want to sync with Clemont.
Thinking maybe this would be better.
kindred stag
For general purpose I'd replace Quick Cure by Sparl HE1
Also Sync Regen kinda better than Tighten Up since you raise your defenses anyway, tho it's very niche
sly fulcrum
In a red /ash team comp the core tiles are FA4, shock recovery 1 and electro repulsion 3... don't need sync regen or HE1 because red provides team wide regen through TM and a guaranteed paralyse
There will be 20 energy left so it's whatever your choice
crystal bay
Why would you pair Clemont with them? Give them a Kanto theme unit for the passives.
stuck compass
thinking of using it for a team with red/ ash
Do u have eevee though
fringe jackal
Ye
bronze dragon
Why would you pair Clemont with them? Give them a Kanto theme unit for the passi...
ET is the only team you would actively want to use BP Clemont, he's never gonna be an option among the optimals otherwise
static dust
recommended grid for 3/5 lucian if you're never gonna sync with him? obv growl charging affliction 2 and confusion aggr 4 but not sure what else is even useful aside from like. Wide Awake.
austere mirage
Why would you pair Clemont with them? Give them a Kanto theme unit for the passi...
Why pair anyone at all with them 
keen nova
Looking at the pins which is the better build for Bea, and how high of a priority is her ex? I know she's a strong unit, I just got her to 3/5
sweet parcel
Use the sync nuke build. And yes she is a good choice to ex
stuck compass
recommended grid for 3/5 lucian if you're never gonna sync with him? obv growl c...
I personally took confusion nodes for teams that he is purely going to support
The nuke build looks really strong tho
stuck compass
My personal nuke grid differs from the doc tho, and it's easy for u to take adrenaline+1 sync node out for the charging infliction+unflappable nodes if that's really impt to you.
placid heart
How’s this look for the extreme battle
sweet parcel
If you pair him with anyone that can provide gauge, this is better
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/3600/7601?s=5&l=140&r=4&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBgkLDA4PEB8iKC4v
clear heart
When running SSBlue-Redchu-Ash what would be the suggested build of the options available in the guide?
keen nova
What move levels?
clear heart
I'm aiming for 3/5 all once i have candies. For now running 1/5 I'm a new player started 2 days ago
I want to have a target to build towards
keen nova
Full tank or adrenaline wise entry for ss blue, sync and terrain for ash or rejuvenate, and red im not sure on I just got him to 2/5
clear heart
Alright thank you for your advice
digital snow
Hey, anyone has sync grids for new BP pairs?
echo crypt
digital snow
well yeah they aren't updated in the doc, that's why im asking
keen nova
Does this look like a good grid? I'd rather sync with ash than red if ash is ex though with volt tackle red honestly shouldn't bother syncing imo
Could run that too for sustain
austere mirage
Does this look like a good grid? I'd rather sync with ash than red if ash is ex ...
You don't need the Electric terrain Precision pal, Para Synergy would be better
austere mirage
Could run that too for sustain
I would argue Redchu has pretty good sustain by default, would be a waste not trying to full on nuke with haymaker+Cakewalk somehow
keen nova
In csmm I'd rather sync rejuvenate buddy move then volt tackle I'm not sure anything is standing after that unless they're wise or sentry entry
bronze dragon
You can run them 1/5 0/20 gridless and they'll still off-type easily
So it's just a matter of what you prefer them doing
I'm not investing into ash more than 1/5 because I feel like 3/5 ex removes the incentive of using his buddy move tbh
slate widget
whats a good ss morty grid if i have head start as a lucky skill
picking vigilance and mp refresh but what else
bronze dragon
Depends who you're supporting
slate widget
lusamine
normal one
i wanna re do mm using lusamine
but she cant kill
mid
😦
livid bridge
There’s no BP Sophocles?
quick temple
Yeah just give it some time
vivid yoke
Did we ever figure out if the phys.atk up node on sophocles was worth it or not
bronze dragon
Well that's something you have to figure out yourself
It's a good node
You have to value if you want to pick something else over it or if you're planning to click iron defense at all
placid heart
Simply use Sonia 👍
bronze dragon
You could also use Hilbert and use 2 iron defense to fully buff, having 2 chances of getting pmun
slate widget
good grid?
bronze dragon
I am going full DPS because even if she has good sync multipliers, I never see myself syncing with her
Her teams have pairs that get more from syncing
Unless you go super budget team like Acerola Nita for example
stuck compass
Qn how does she fare against a 3/5 may (swampert)
vast wolf
Oh yeah speaking of Naomi, how is she compare to groundon or ss gio ?
merry onyx
in ground damage they both probably blow her out of the water
but she is niche because compared to them she has special ground dps
sweet parcel
placid heart
Naomi will get the job done not much else
spring belfry
any good grids for gastrodon
stuck compass
I'm currently looking at this for a non-rain CS build. Is Gobsmack worth the 9 energy?
Alternatively, I'm looking at this rain grid to pair with May and Rox. Wondering if there is a better alternative setup.
sweet parcel
I'm currently looking at this for a non-rain CS build. Is Gobsmack worth the 9 e...
it's a good tile so picking it isnt a bad choice
sweet parcel
Alternatively, I'm looking at this rain grid to pair with May and Rox. Wondering...
i would pick TM MPR for general use, since you never sync with her
stuck compass
in the cyn rox may setup i think i can spare a sync for cyn tbh
sweet parcel
you want to sync with may first for mega
stuck compass
oh
sweet parcel
always sync with may unless you bring ex support
stuck compass
does gobsmack have 30% of confusing all enemies every hit?
stuck compass
did chance to flinch on aoe stuff like tornado have the same %flinch to 3 enemies vs 1 enemy
sweet parcel
the interference from passives dont have aoe penalty
stuck compass
ah
sweet parcel
that means Earthquake has 30% chance to confuse pokemon it hits
stuck compass
it wud be a nice way to shrug off potential hits
real escarp
did chance to flinch on aoe stuff like tornado have the same %flinch to 3 enemie...
yeah that's part of what makes tornadus's kit neat
especially since stuff like flinch is often more valuable when you can synchronize the flinching of all the enemies
jolly thicket
For Ash, you want to focus on his sync
For Red, either focus on his B Move or his sync
hollow rivet
What grid should I use for a 2/5 Red?
shadow wadi
hollow rivet
the pins don't have anything for 2/5 i checked already...
echo crypt
be creative then
those grids are suggestions anyway, you are free to come up with something different on your own
dense eagle
Do we know when we are getting the datamine for houndooms sync gris upgrade? Or is it already out?
kindred stag
25th as always
shrewd sparrow
updated pomatools to support the level cap of 150
dense eagle
Hrmph. Any chances he is decent afterwards? Trying to figure out Darkrai worth
last burrow
well she's a nuker now, if you're talking about karen
dense eagle
Yeah saw that. What does a decent darkrai comp look like?
last burrow
team comp or sync grid?? it depends on what you wanna use him in, as the damage dealer or a dark type supporter
dense eagle
Team comp. I feel like there are no huge dark nukers.
last burrow
He is the huge dark nuker
tho there are many other ones; Masked Royal, Sidney, Karen, Summer N, etc
But he himself has a stronger sync if set up properly
dense eagle
Yeah I have sidney masked royal and karen all at 5/5 so
last burrow
then all you need is a support that can buff what they're missing
dense eagle
Persian?
last burrow
yeah sounds good
keen nova
Idk darkrai worth but I am definitely glad I got him, that aoe sleep is phenomenal
bronze dragon
Of course it's worth lol
ashen orchid
Is headstart pile a must for Cynthia Luca?
last burrow
If you wanna nuke with someone else first cycle yea but in general nah
ashen orchid
So potion and vacuum crit should be the better grid?
last burrow
You have 4 presets, you can make all of them and just choose depending on the situation
tidal crest
For ash and pikachu which sync grid is better? The thunder / tank one or the sync nuke/ b thunderbolt option
stuck compass
Depends on usage
austere mirage
@copper verge just heads up was comparing your BP stuff to mine so saw Clemont + Magneton.
He already has Vigilance as one of its 3 passives, should give him another Lucky skill. Also nice favorite list.
copper verge
Oh right thx for pointing out, tbf he doesn't really need a lucky skill at the end but added a few suggestions 
copper verge
yeah thing is you'd generally bring him for screech usage but yeah if yeah it can work spamming Spark with MG2 ^^
LS are kinda w/e if you ask me (unless it's HS1 
)
sweet parcel
I gave him Unbending, since he has Stalwart in grid
to counter Azelf's debuff gimmick
copper verge
yeah might as well spec him to where you'll occasionally use him I guess 😛
spring belfry
I'm currently looking at this for a non-rain CS build. Is Gobsmack worth the 9 e...
yes if u are tackling uxie
stuck compass
yes if u are tackling uxie
why uxie
quick temple
Easy way to disable one of its passives
clever thorn
‘Easy’30% chances
real escarp
lol everything in LG comes down to 30% chances eventually
you only have to proc it 2-3 times
copper verge
Thing is you don't want it to happen too early anyways cause he might build immunity to it by the time you really need it (bar 2)
silent wren
Finally got my boy lodge N, and I have no idea how to grid him. I have a nuke grid but nothing else
Kinda want a good grid for him to just be at the side inflicting sleep and spdef drops
bronze dragon
Something like this
uncut vessel
Any good Rosa and Dewott grids?
shadow wadi
modern kayak
How do I get the extended grid for Karen and Houndoom? or has the extended grid not been released yet?
shadow wadi
Wait for 25th
modern kayak
great 
uncut vessel
<:CheckThePins:770547479446814730>
There aren't any there.
Sparky hasn't updated the Trainer Lodge section yet.
shadow wadi
Hm, I could've sworn you mentioned another pair. My bad then.
uncut vessel
That section is like the Dragon Scroll from Kung Fu Panda, blank.
sacred skiff
Guys need an image that show up which sync grid are best on a sweeper Kyogre
sweet parcel
copper verge
Guys need an image that show up which sync grid are best on a sweeper Kyogre
this should be enough 
https://gyazo.com/d391b40719553fb779e91898765d3753
vast wolf
Wait for 25th
Btw, is N Zoro or extended Houndoom stronger ?
sweet parcel
N is stronger, but Karen is enough for dark weak
jolly thicket
Karen takes too long to set up unless you have someone to set up for her
stuck compass
Tbh I've been using incineroar for everything dark 🙃
stuck compass
His def debuffing has been excellent
sweet parcel
Not to mention his aoe +6 speed buff
stuck compass
bronze dragon
Karen takes too long to set up unless you have someone to set up for her
She really doesn't, it's just a matter of reducing the teammates pool due to set up
Sscyrus is a staple and that's already completing her set up
uncut vessel
Any good Rosa and Dewott grid suggestions?
primal wasp
.
echo cypress
Are there any good Bulbasaur grids out yet?
primal wasp
Not sure but to my knowledge, no
I think a lot of these Pairs that come from Lodge, are not all in everyone's hands plus they aren't too good like Ash or Red so they are getting a bit left behind for sure
But definitely go with what you think is good if there is no one grid out yet
gentle sun
Hey, dunno if the peeps who work on the recommended grids doc are looking for stuff to fill in the Lodge Sync Pairs, but this is what I decided to go with on Cynthia + Gastrodon for a sort of “universal use” grid:
clear fable
Yeah i think thats about it. quick cure, first aid4, mgr mpr
Would go that as well since im close to TL Cynthia
stuck compass
I think a lot of these Pairs that come from Lodge, are not all in everyone's han...
Imo N and sigiliph does a lot of dmg. But yeah they are free units and are balanced that way
copper verge
Lodge grids will probably come over the weekend, got swamped recently. But yeah overall they're not very complicated, similar to BP and 3/4* gach units grid in generall
tawny cloud
Is this a good grid for N? I tried to base it off of the bolt strike minimal grid in the doc but a bit less... minimal
sweet parcel
At 2/5 you can pick all sync nodes and bolt strike related tiles
Lets ignore the outrage tiles
sweet parcel
Def good
onyx sage
thoughts on this for dewott
stuck idol
It may seem stupid but I cant see any sync grid anything I touch just brings me to the top of document
keen nova
Click on the link it sends you to at the top of the document, It does it to me too and it used to work fine
jolly thicket
What again is Karen's expanded grid?
sweet parcel
Her grid will be expanded in 25th. You can go to pomatools web to see her new tiles
jolly thicket
Her grid will be expanded in 25th. You can go to pomatools web to see her new ti...
So how strong is she?
jolly thicket
Ah
gloomy eagle
Literally non limited Summer N
Holy shit, fr-??
These expanded grids made Karen and Cynthia viable DPS options now just like that-?!
sweet parcel
she also has a nuke now
well Karen dps is the same as pre expansion
expansion grid gives her viable nuke
bronze dragon
Basically same goes for Cynthia
sweet parcel
i guess there is someone who picked Superduper Effective 5 
echo cypress
Is this a solid Poison DPS grid for Lodge Sycamore?
austere mirage
edgy gate
high orbit
What's a good battle villa grid for 3/5 sstred?
shadow wadi
You just need "sets terrain after max move" tile
jolly thicket
You just need "sets terrain after max move" tile
Max Conductivity
shadow wadi
Thanks, the name really did it
jolly thicket
Ok then....
bronze dragon
If you have the units, you can do this funny easy clear
Credits to Ropalme, not mine
high orbit
no ex ash here
fickle surge
Is this good for a dps grid
bronze dragon
I would pick fierce entry 2 but depends who's your support
fickle surge
Hilbert
bronze dragon
Yeah then that's fine
fickle surge
Wonderful
severe ridge
Any good grid for red and chu?
austere mirage
mint orchid
Is this good grid?I'm using her with Buzzma and acyn
sweet parcel
Literally her best grid
solid comet
Who wants 3/5 between SS Steven, SST Red, and SC Rosa?
Or are they all fine at 1/5?
And I should save candies?
sweet parcel
Steven works fine at 1/5 so no need to candy him
Red and Rosa wants 3/5 for nuking tools
But Rosa is more worth candying than Red imo
bronze dragon
I'd say candy Red
Rosa won't sync in her usual teams
Several grass types are better nukers
And Easy Target is a joke
merry onyx
rosa is really just a funny numbers unit
stuff like ss erika mallow lyrabi will still one shot center
or close to it
bronze dragon
B-but she is the best grass nuker
With Easy Target
Which you need to waste 3 turns on
And the most important thing... Considering you're already using SS Lyra in the team
merry onyx
it's like the anni raihan lucas situation all over again
sweet parcel
keen nova
How does this look?
gentle sun
Depends on the team
gentle sun
Probably the Body Slam or Adrenaline grids? I’m admittedly not super familiar with Classic Red’s kit, but he shouldn’t need Rock Smash for an SS Ethan team
stuck idol
Alright thanks
slate widget
Depends on what u need
Body slam if helping a physical striker and adrenaline if special
I mean rock smash
glossy birch
How necessary is a 3/5 grid for SST Red if I'm using him with Ash?
gentle sun
Not
glossy birch
Ah that's nice to know. Guess I can put him on the ever growing backlog of limited techs
wise saddle
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/2500/47800?s=3&l=140&r=6&p=0&a=13016303&g=AAECAwQFBgcKDA4PEBEUFxof
If you team candice froslass up with Janine Crobat you dont need agile entry and can go full damage
however she still doesnt seem to hit Shauntal hard on sync lol
gentle sun
What if you did BP Janine + BP Candice + Ghetsis then?
Candice does DPS, Ghetsis Syncs
wise saddle
Hmmm true that. I normally just holiday leon and regular candice, was hoping that blizzard & Sync nuke would be enough
fair saffron
Adrenaline head start or vigilance is best for MF Cynthia
gentle sun
Personal preference, mainly
vivid yoke
I realized SC guzma might actually make use of confusion synergy with ssa cynthia having Gobsmack
How much damage does Confusion Synergy 1 even add?
Is it only 10%?
real escarp
yeah
vivid yoke
Hmmm it might not even be worth
bronze dragon
Inb4 your opponent hits themselves in confusion and B Aura Sphere takes longer to unlock
gentle sun
Probably between SS Morty, SS Dawn, SS Brendan, and Teapot Lillie
Assuming only 1 Move Candy
cosmic folio
Yeah i finally got a yellow one, support candies are scarce 😭
gentle sun
I will say that if it’s a universal candy consider using it on your favorite limited that’s below 3/5
cosmic folio
Oh ok, i guess I’ll save it then
gentle sun
You can spend it now if you want, just something to consider since universal 5-star candies are the rarest of the rare
cosmic folio
Id probably use it on brendan since he needs to tank heavily and 3/5 would help him a lot
gentle sun
Definitely a solid choice
cosmic folio
The other have regen or flinch or buff really well
stiff storm
torpid sluice
What's the best grid for ssa cynthia?
I tried checking in the doc, but wasn't able to find about her
Nor for other new units
sweet parcel
you should refresh the doc, all new grids should be there
jolly thicket
Where's the sheet of damage dealers per type again?
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The pics are as follows: sync nuke, gauge sustain, grassy terrain tank
torpid sluice
I am facing the same problem of unupdated drive file
Are grids of SSA cynthia out?
Or maybe someone can share the link of the drive file, it seems like I am using the older one
The file I am using was last updated on August 13
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carmine zinc
Does this make sense as a general-use grid for SST Red? I feel like if I’m not necessarily syncing with him I can switch off Haymaker to something else I’m just not sure how it should be
Is this better?
bronze dragon
This is the "generic" build
jovial gale
copper verge
literally pick every tiles (less than 60 energy) 
oblique owl
Any suggestions for a 2/5 SSTRed Grid when paired with ash
cloud rock
this an ok grid for naomi?
bronze dragon
Like this better, you're already implying she's at +6 speed with ramming speed so no need for MGR
keen nova
Thoughts? I'll be excited to try them out, nice having ground and steel options for f2p
merry onyx
Thoughts? I'll be excited to try them out, nice having ground and steel options ...
please do not use molayne in sand
you gain nothing from running him in a sand team
keen nova
Really? I figured a little sustain but I've got much better sand units anyways. He's a physical striker and doesn't get ex right?
merry onyx
he doesn't have any dmg or nuke multipliers for sand
it's better to run him w steel zone or with nothing at all
i'd go something like this for a generalist grid
stuck compass
Imma just spec em into aggravation ngl
cloud crane
Yeah. Me too. Would like to experiment with trip wire too
bronze dragon
Drop fleet feet 1 and pick aggravation 1 then we agree
bronze dragon
Yeah. Me too. Would like to experiment with trip wire too
There's no benefit in lowering speed unless you pick Hunter's Instinct, and even then that's the only reliable speed debuffing the unit has
keen nova
Arresting glare 9 lowers speed on successful attacks
bronze dragon
Arresting glare 9 lowers speed on successful attacks
Attacks against Dugtrio
cloud crane
I meant just some experimenting with him. Not really sure what it would be useful for 
Maybe when ghetsis EX comes out, will use Darach and Molayne to setup nuke
No pal Serena here so looking for alternatives
bronze dragon
You can use Sophocles + support
cloud crane
Yeah. Sophocles does seem nice. Sst Red too slow 
shouldn't pull
stark berry
No pal Serena here so looking for alternatives
Classic elesa is a great Dennis partner
stuck idol
pls send sst red grid
merry onyx
pls
stuck idol
ok
merry onyx
Drop fleet feet 1 and pick aggravation 1 then we agree
fleet feet is 8 energy and aggravation is 10, you wouldn't have enough for it unless you dropped flinch hitter or a sync tile
stark berry
fleet feet is 8 energy and aggravation is 10, you wouldn't have enough for it un...
Flinch hitter is only worth if you are running with SS Lyra or maybe a dedicated flincher
But without SS Lyra at most is 60% to proc flinch hitter
bronze dragon
It's not a matter of the flinch rate you have
If you are the unit that flinches and then syncs, it's very likely that by the time the enemy is not flinched anymore
bronze dragon
fleet feet is 8 energy and aggravation is 10, you wouldn't have enough for it un...
Yeah, I'd drop a sync tile and fleet feet, then pick aggravation and an iron head node
mint orchid
Is this best karen grid?
stuck compass
Is this best karen grid?
Btw why would you miss a free 20spd node
sweet parcel
Is this best karen grid?
i would use this instead
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/6200/22900?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFEhUYKCssLS4wMTIzNDU
mint orchid
Ok
lean cairn
i would use this instead
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/6200/22900?s=5&l=14...
I think this is still the bette build
merry onyx
if running her with ss cyrus i think this would be the best build since you cant sleep and flinch at the same time
so unless your support/tank/etc can confuse or trap i'd just not pick it up (since that team at its peak would have to be ss cyrus + ss lyra + karen and at that point why even use karen at all)
cloud crane
Guess there should be a few options other than lyra. Maybe ss dawn, ssa Cynthia even mespirit could possible confuse and help with buffs too. Should be more I guess
merry onyx
ye but the units for the full damage are a lil limited
ss lyra was just the first that came to my head since i have her
cloud crane
Yeah. Without zone maybe you would have more options
cloud crane
She would nuke decently well I guess
gentle sun
Funnily enough with the grid I run I can pick up all of her new tiles by just getting rid of some MGR tiles and the ones leading up to them
bronze dragon
Something like this?
Yes exactly, you can also pick satisfied snarl but dark pulse +18 BP is better than Overpower
As long as you are picking dirty fighting 5 and foul fighting 5
Picking the second sync BP node might also be worth it since she has mega sync with very low BP
vivid yoke
I think this is still the bette build
I didnt believe it either but it is 100% true that if you are running foul+dirty fighting, the BP nodes add more damage than the overpower node
HOWEVER if for whatever reason you dont have conditions for both of those multipliers, then overpower edges out the BP nodes
But, ideally you are hitting those effects so
lean cairn
I 100% believe that picking BP gives higher damage because I tested it, but better damage ≠ better build. Satisfied Snarl makes her nuke set up easier while only losing a bit of damage so I choose that unless I pair her with specific support that can lower sp atk
bronze dragon
What we were saying is picking BP nodes instead of overpower, not satisfied snarl
Unless you're bringing a -2 aoe SpAtk unit instead, you should mostly always pick satisfied snarl
stuck compass
Btw do we know the multiplier for sync power flux yet? Is it similar to the stat based ones? (IE we don't reduce the max gauge for csmm)
bronze dragon
Yes, X2 at 6 gauge
stuck compass
Oh that's nice
hidden jetty
Best Silver grid for Coballion?
cloud crane
Tbh, you could just use any of the grids pinned for fire type damage and take sacred fire hostile environment and accuracy tiles if you're having issues for a single time clear
lean cairn
What we were saying is picking BP nodes instead of overpower, not satisfied snar...
My dumbass didn't think that you can pick speed +5 instead of MGR yesterday, yeah I think this is the best. Could also exchange 1 bp node for mgr
remote patrol
Who should i sync for LG? Im new so i havent so much resources
grave silo
think silver would be really good for cobalion
kind acorn
Need some suggestions. This is my team for misty. Which sync grid is better? MGR or synchro healing?
crystal junco
how is cyrus without the sync grid extension ?
sweet parcel
he is already good before the expansion
icy raven
Is this a good grid for BLUE
placid heart
I’m not sure you need surging sands one and sands of time there might be better things but I need to check his grid
I’d personally maybe run smth like this
icy raven
I’m not sure you need surging sands one and sands of time there might be better ...
Mhm....did this 1
vivid yoke
So, anyone out there actually want healthy healing? Ive had it on Blissey for a long time but now that we have the guaranteed cookie for it im not even sure anyone wants it
vivid yoke
I dont usually grid vigilance. Maybe ill give to phoebe
Right now i have revenge boost on her
merry onyx
yeah hh is much better for her
especially since she doesnt have any healing on grid
icy raven
I dont usually grid vigilance. Maybe ill give to phoebe
I went with team speed buffs for blissey
vivid yoke
Theres no team speed buff cookie i dont think. Just her own speedy entry
icy raven
Theres no team speed buff cookie i dont think. Just her own speedy entry
It in the grid
stuck compass
I went with team speed buffs for blissey
I got mind games 2 for blissey too, so she has the chance to buff speed, debuff spdef, and remove status with her hyper voice
vivid yoke
It in the grid
Oh i see, instead of the vigilance grid
icy raven
Oh i see, instead of the vigilance grid
I put vigilance in the lucky skill
abstract shadow
Whichever one you need for the battle at the time
I usually use Ash and Red together
So maybe thundershock? Or conductivity?
candid hazel
I'd do Max Conductivity if pairing with Ash
Thunder Shock comes in handy for gauntlet fights like Cobalion & Tornadus
Full Boost for syncing with Red ofcourse
sweet parcel
you have 4 grid presets, put all off them on Red and switch the grid depends on team / stage gimmick
abstract shadow
you have 4 grid presets, put all off them on Red and switch the grid depends on ...
How do I preset?
candid hazel
It's in you grid builder
Hit the upper right button and you'll see you have access to 4 preset options
torpid sluice
Is sandstorm MPR not useful to 3/5 bertha?
candid hazel
She already has a great duration of sand
So if it's in an awkward spot on her grid I'm sure it's often skipped
sweet parcel
Outside of LA, you don't need over 2 uses of Sandstorm
torpid sluice
Hmm
torpid sluice
So if it's in an awkward spot on her grid I'm sure it's often skipped
Its beside sand castle 2, at the top of bottom left part of grid
Like this
I have always seen people take MPRs on the weather moves, so not seeing sandstorm MPR made me feel awkward
candid hazel
You can definitely take it if you need it
sweet parcel
Because most weather moves MPR are in ideal spots, so you dont need to spend much energy on them
candid hazel
Maybe for like Moltres or something
But 3 sandstorm uses is usually enough for most battles
sweet parcel
But like Chauncho said, her MPR was in awkward spot
sly fulcrum
That's also because she's a great sand nuker
See why her sync tiles are prioritised over sandstorm mpr
sweet parcel
She can be used as an utility unit and a nuker
torpid sluice
Hmm, and stealth rock is on the field for the same duration as other weather, terrains and zones?
sweet parcel
Stealth rock has 90s duration, unlike other field effects
torpid sluice
Ah
sweet parcel
The others only have 45s duration
torpid sluice
Oh wow
I first thought 90s was less, wasn't knowing it's twice the time for weather
torn holly
I'm gonna set four grids for Nessa, are these grids okay?
Sync Nuke
Razor Shell
Jaw Lock
Rock Tomb Speed Debuffer
bronze dragon
I don't see why you'd use jaw lock in a rain team
And the last one I don't see why you'd want to use it
The first 2 are good
vivid apex
What lucky skill is best for jasmine
jolly thicket
What lucky skill is best for jasmine
For both variations, Vigilance
bronze dragon
Definitely not for og Jasmine
She has crit shield
And SC jasmine has vigilance in grid
I run wise entry 2 on Jasmine, imo the best skill for her, and sentry entry 2 on SC jasmine
median bluff
Im struggling so hard on what vespiquens grid should be
Idk if i should go with the attack order one or catalyst and quick cure i just idk
This is for taking down azelf btw
Someone help please
signal spruce
Whats a good SSKris grid that focuses on rain? None of the ones in the doc seem to be what I want
merry onyx
Whats a good SSKris grid that focuses on rain? None of the ones in the doc seem ...
what… do you want then
build it around your wants
bronze dragon
That's her basic kit
merry onyx
I remember seeing somewhere that overpower isnt good for karen since a few dark pulse tiles have a way better impact, is this true? I can't remember who said it exactly but i'd just like to know if I should pick it up or not on the new grids im making lol
The one in doc has it but idk
copper verge
The comparison was mostly full tiles Vs Overpower only catching at -4 spA at the time. The thing is now some energy is invested in some of the new tiles so you can't really pick up all of them. And the grid also brought Satisfied Snarl 9 which makes it faster to setup. And well you're running Devastation (well at least on that "standard" build I mean) already so you're surely planning on dropping SpA anyway, noting that we got a good bunch of devastation partners lately. All in all OP isn't what makes or breaks the pair, but it's more cohesive than it was for that build if that makes sense
vivid yoke
So if you have satisfied snarl and get them to -6 sp atk,
Overpower is better than 2-3 DP nodes?
stuck idol
Is this good grid for Red?
jolly thicket
Is this good grid for Red?
I'm assuming he's 2/5?
stuck idol
I'm assuming he's 2/5?
Yes
bronze dragon
Overpower is better than 2-3 DP nodes?
Considering you're picking ff5 and df5:
+18BP > Overpower > +12BP
Overpower is good in case you want to drop either ff5 or df5 because it's ironically the most reliable of her DPS multipliers
stuck compass
I'm currently on 12bp coz I'm thinking of taking the mgr is that a bad idea
bronze dragon
Nah it's small difference amounts of damage
A trait that enables easier work is better than a <5% damage difference
placid heart
What’s a good Karen expanded grid again I scrolled up and got confused
How this look?
bronze dragon
That's good
placid heart
Alt
sinful smelt
Huh so Nanu got a bunch of nuke stuff but no additional flinch stuff?
sinful smelt
He does, I’m just surprised that aspect got nothing
Flinch nukers aren’t great to start with
bronze dragon
I mean what else were you expecting related to flinch
An extra agg1 would have been too much
primal wasp
Does Sabrina want to use her Sync when she plays as Full Support?
Because it would be useful to have access to an Support Sync but not sure if that is the best utility I can get from her
shadow wadi
EXd, correct? Depends on a team, but a support ex is always nice.
Not like syncing with her removes all utility
primal wasp
Just that I would need to regrid her for if
shadow wadi
What's stopping you
primal wasp
Just not sure if I want the 20% Healing off Sync
Since I would say I only use the Sync Once unless I was running a mutistage Mods
shadow wadi
You know you can have four presets and change them depending on what you need? Not just use recommended sets
stuck compass
An extra agg1 would have been too much
Maybe poison on bite 😋
bronze dragon
An extra status/interference or Screech being able to go -3 defense would've been nice
stuck compass
Yeah
shrewd sparrow
updated
sweet parcel
wow Victor's 4/5 and 5/5 grid tiles are kinda unnecessary lol
vivid yoke
What multiplier is bigger, paralysis synergy 5 or furious brawn?
Norman can only reach 1 of them on the grid + steadfasts
Bro why does norman have like 10 different 10 energy nodes
sweet parcel
Obv Paralysis Synergy 5 is better
Since it has 50% boost, compared to 30% boost from Furious Brawn
vivid yoke
Theres no number by it so i didnt know
Im hoping normal zone makes his damage usable
Ah, too bad sevipers sync is physical, it could go well with poison zone and iris spamming acid
gentle sun
I'm just happy Lucy's getting Hostile Environment
sweet parcel
Gigalith without any tools to summon sand again is such a crime
sweet parcel
I'm just happy Lucy's getting Hostile Environment
100% bad poison is no joke
gentle sun
Really happy for a full grid in general, she's one of my faves
vivid yoke
I like how gordy is more of a fire type tech than rock lol
kindred stag
wow Victor's 4/5 and 5/5 grid tiles are kinda unnecessary lol
High Horsepower BOGO 9 is super strong
sweet parcel
Nah I never click HH
gentle sun
We’re allowed to post images from the grid planner for unreleased grids, right?
round bridge
Yes
gentle sun
Alright
In that case, here’s a slapped-together Lucy grid for Sync nuke:
Might be able to optimize it further, idk
Actually, yeah, could squeeze in the other Sync tile at the cost of 1 unused energy if you went up the left side and through the Sync tile to get Toxic Power and Hostile Environment
Actually, I think that won’t leave unused energy, gimme a sec
Nevermind, can’t get both Sync tiles if you grab TP/HE
gentle sun
Ah, true
I personally would prefer Toxic Power, but that’s an important thing to keep in mind
bronze dragon
Maybe try and pick discourage 2 instead of overpower
His DPS is not something I'd invest much in
jolly thicket
His DPS is not something I'd invest much in
I mean it is a sync nuke build, not a DPS build
bronze dragon
Then pick discourage 2
round bridge
Discourage ensures -6 spatk for devastation
He only gets -4 by himself otherwise
And if you sync with him first, you get a bit of damage boost from -2
jolly thicket
Overpower is not a sync multiplier
Oh yeah, I'm so blind as fuck
I thought Overpower was a sync mulitplier
And I even got the name of the multiplier that I wanted wrong
Godfuckingdamnit I want to die
vivid yoke
Oh gross glalie doesnt gain any defense or spdef on mega
Thats depressing
Btw, how does sync power flux work? Is it based on how much gauge you have when the sync move connects?
quick temple
How much the multiplier is depends on your gauge when you clicked on the sync move button
quick temple
I believe so, yeah
vivid yoke
For a sync nuke classic blue build, is crit strike 1 worth it? Or is it better to grab extra sync +25 nodes
bronze dragon
*~~Godfuckingdamnit I want to die~~*
It's ok no worries 
Everybody can make a mistake
gentle sun
Fun potential Helena grid for comboing with SSR Cynthia:
Can switch Hostile Environment with On a Roll if you want
cloud rock
https://i.imgur.com/Y4Xtzjm.png
i have 7 energy left. I'm trying to squeeze 1 more for vigilance
slate widget
wouldent the spdef speed route give u more energy?
gentle sun
Since it’s 10 speed it might cost 4 energy, which would make it equal to going up the right side
Not to mention you’d need the extra Absorb BP tile which could close the gap even if energy were saved
How much does Quick Cure cost and is it mandatory?
cloud rock
it's to get to ramp up
cloud rock
Since it’s 10 speed it might cost 4 energy, which would make it equal to going u...
going right is cheaper by 1 energy
if you don't pick up the absorb tile
gentle sun
It’s 7 cost anyways, so going bottom-right path to Ramp Up would cost more
cloud rock
guess there's no getting around 
gotta get it in the lucky skill
shame because i wanted adrenaline on this
alternatively i can get away with cutting off RU entirely ig
also gives me unyielding
gentle sun
Depends on what you’re using her for, I guess
cloud rock
tank for sure
ideally would buff spa as much as possible but i guess what it is now isn't too bad
placid heart
Is this a good grid for Rilabook + Victor
gentle sun
I guess?
placid heart
Wait why am I taking overwhelm
gentle sun
I haven’t looked much into Victor yet
quick temple
Wait why am I taking overwhelm
Das a good question
placid heart
quick temple
I haven’t looked much into Victor yet
His kit is like every other basic striker. His max move is aoe but that’s really the only thing that’s really interesting and new
placid heart
His kit feels way more like a tech to me
quick temple
How so?
placid heart
Spd debuffs aoes and having Spd debuff based multipliers
Only like old strikers do that and even then I think they function a lot more like techs
Karen
It sucks all victors golf stuff is locked either behind 5/5 or smth
Idk how these new grids work
Oh nvm
Getting 5/5 for him unlocks the nothing tiles for me lel
gentle sun
I know 5/5 gives the funny BOGO 9 for High Horsepower
quick temple
Yeah I saw that too
gentle sun
Mostly pointless, but hilarious
quick temple
I don’t really think that’s too great tho. Maybe that’s just me
Yeah some people were saying that it’s really great and I don’t see that
I guess debuffs can give him some utility. If it’s just the base kit tho, it’s only on a 4 bar move which feels a bit much for a utility move. Feel like there’s someone that can do that without costing 4 gauges
gentle sun
Yeah some people were saying that it’s really great and I don’t see that
It’s mostly pointless, yeah. But it’d be a funny thing to do something like Courtney + Victor + Something like 3/5 Sonia for the memes
quick temple
That is pretty funny
vivid yoke
Trying to decide who i will spend 2 tech candies on between ss may, sc rosa, or fall iris
Any personal anecdotes or suggestions with 3/5 for at least the first two?
I might end up spending 2 tech candies, and then doing a third tech candy + my general 5* candy
Basically by the end of october i can get 2 of them to 3/5
stuck compass
imma probably plan for a 0-/5 rillaboom atm :/
muted stag
Anybody have a good grid for lodge Silver and feraligatr that focuses on ice punch? I plan to use him for consistent freezing
fair sleet
I was thinking of something like this for Glacia. Feels kinda bad to miss healing hail / powder snow HE / endurance, but I think team toughen up is kinda needed to help her physical tank + help the damage dealers tank syncs. Thoughts?
bronze dragon
You also need to think who are you using her along
Focus Group 9 is a good skill but if you're using her in a hail team, most hail abusers have +3 crit themselves
I was thinking a similar grid but would like to pick first aid 4 or durable 9
fair sleet
Ya good point. But Focus Group 9 is only 5 energy, so getting rid of it doesn't open up much more. Mainly can swap that with endurance.
vivid yoke
Candice doesnt get crit so its good for her
soft night
updated
Can I request, the Type Rebuffs and Type Damage fields be cached?
I'm just going to leave them toggled for future calcs.
high orbit
Can someone post an expanded grid for karen?
gentle sun
There’s some options in the document in the pins
Generally the important tiles are Devastation, Sync Power Flux, and Satisfied Snarl, and then Dirty Fighting and/or Foul Fighting and Overpower are great options depending on the team you’re running
This is the grid I run with NY Sabrina and Lucian as teammates, for example
gentle sun
Ideally you’d run someone who can buff Sp. Atk. and/or crit alongside Karen so she doesn’t have to spend so many turns buffing herself
high orbit
I have sc lillie and ss kris
gentle sun
SC Lillie would be a great pick, means Karen only has to spend 2 turns at most on buffing herself
high orbit
so sc lillie ss cyrus and karen?
gentle sun
Try it and see how it works out, you can always adjust teams as needed
placid heart
Is this a good grid?
bronze dragon
No
-Safety Tether?
-Interference sync 5 but you're picking ice punch stuff
And the move you want to use if you're gonna sync with him is Liquidation
placid heart
I didn’t know how else to grab hostile environment and there’s like no other good stuff
bronze dragon
First of all what do you want to do with him and who are you going to use him with?
jolly thicket
Will SS Wally's builds appear in the site soon enough?
placid heart
First of all what do you want to do with him and who are you going to use him wi...
I’m prolly going to use him with like both Kris when that update comes out
wise saddle
This might not be the channel for it but is there anywhere where i can see which of the f2p sync grids actually make a unit go from useless to useful?
Like Mina/Granbulls grid made her a fun striker that could at least clear 2k CSMM with the right team, i like those kinds of challenges
shadow wadi
You can see damage calcs, ask in the help channel or looknat the grids yourself
sinful smelt
Mina was useful without her grid
echo crypt
LG has shown pretty much any pair has a use, even eggmons work so...
sinful smelt
Well I wouldn’t say Mina is good in the same way an egg is 
bronze dragon
I’m prolly going to use him with like both Kris when that update comes out
Then focus on sync and Liquidation
wise saddle
Mina was useful without her grid <:RoxanneThis:661024696346607635>
Ive thoroughly enjoyed using her with TMR for fairy weak stages
But i'll review the last few months of free grids and see what i consider worthwhile ty
sinful smelt
Most are good. My only disappointments have been Grant and Hapu.
And supposedly others have made Grant work
crystal bay
Do I use CS2 or Vigilance on Sylveon? That's the question.
sinful smelt
So far out of my mind I didn’t even think of her when thinking of grids that did nothing …
crystal bay
I have a few orbs to spare and I'm trying to find a unit to build. All my 3/5 5* have grids. I was trying with Korrina but her grid is borderline awful.
wise saddle
oh yeah ive hit cap and just randomly assigned orbs
hushed fog
anyone has sync grid for 5/5 wally?
stuck compass
I feel sswally can be built very diversely. do you need him for dmg or buffs/debuffs
crystal bay
I decided. I'll build a vampire tank Sylveon. I'll use the full sustain build with vigilance.
bronze dragon
SS Wally Valerie SS Brendan should be funny
sinful smelt
I have a few orbs to spare and I'm trying to find a unit to build. All my 3/5 5*...
What’s wrong with a Korrina grid?
crystal bay
I was trying to find a sync nuke or cc build but she doesn't have the best grid out there. Also I can quite work with passives that require the unti to be at low hp. I'll try to build something and then I'll ask for advices.
Not the pre sync grids, her grid in general.
bronze dragon
Power Reserves 5 but SSA Cynthia gives her +6 defenses, heals and damage reduction
sinful smelt
Power reserves is dangerous. I prefer to avoid if I can
bronze dragon
A few units can live on the edge without that much risk
But most of the times yeah not worth the gamble
glossy birch
Is it just me or has Agatha vanished from the grid doc? I tried using the find tool for her and nothing came up and when I tried gengar only Alistair came up
echo crypt
Well, she has no grid, don't think she shows up unless you toggle something
glossy birch
Wait I'm an idiot
echo crypt
Oh wait, the doc, yeah, she won't be there
lament plaza
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/12801/28202 Has anyone tried out a SS Wally Dazzling Gleam build?
bronze dragon
It's a 1 use move whose only multiplier is overpower... Which you set up after using it
Not worth building around it
stuck compass
Qn does rillaboom have like free high horsepowers with 5/5 with BOGO 9
I can't tell if that is good or bad tho, since it's a 3bar move
sweet parcel
when Rillabloom uses HH, it gains free move next
its very niche
since you never click HH in most cases
sly fulcrum
It also means he's a very splashable duo striker if u want to
severe merlin
Excuse me, did wally only so far get 4-5 level grids so far?
blazing pawn
What?
sinful smelt
Yes, he is the first
severe merlin
Okie, thank
blazing pawn
Are you asking about the 4/5 and 5/5 grid tiles?
If so, yes it is only Wally/Gardevoir so far, and Victor/Rillaboom in a week
severe merlin
Yes, thanks
jolly thicket
Are you asking about the 4/5 and 5/5 grid tiles?
If so, yes it is only Wally/Ga...
Victor, SS Wally and upgraded Raihan yes?
blazing pawn
Victor, SS Wally and upgraded Raihan yes?
I haven't looked at Duraludon... Is it getting upgraded?
I thought Duraludon was only back for the Lodge unit being released.
jolly thicket
I haven't looked at Duraludon... Is it getting upgraded?
I thought Duraludon wa...
Getting extra nodes at 4/5 and 5/5
blazing pawn
Raihan and Bede are the only two base characters I don't have... So I didn't follow any changes for Duraludon
jolly thicket
When he reruns
blazing pawn
Interesting, though.
jolly thicket
I don't have him too, but I heard he's also going to be the same as SS Wally
clever thorn
Getting extra nodes at 4/5 and 5/5
And at 2/5 (fierce entry 2 and stalwart)
stark berry
Is this best karen grid?
Depends on the team you run, and personality i would take that extra sp atk +5 over hp +10
mint orchid
You have my respect for replying to a comment 5 days old
stark berry
You have my respect for replying to a comment 5 days old
It's the 1st one it loaded
mint orchid
stark berry
My discord is pretty slow after the update
Not the 1st time i answer and old comment because it takes like a minute to load the new ones
stark berry
I don't have him too, but I heard he's also going to be the same as SS Wally
Yes is the same as SS wally, 5/5 adds sync nuke potential, but the unit was good even before the DLC grid
Cynthia got regular grid upgrade (you still need 3/5 for her usability however) Raihan got the DLC grid treatment
grave totem
What grid recommend for Karen n houndoom 5/5?
gentle sun
Generally Sync Power Flux, Devastation, and Satisfied Snarl are the vital grid tiles, and from there you pretty much pick and choose her damage modifiers depending on teammates
This is a grid I use with Lucian and NY Sabrina as her teammates, for example
I’m reasonably sure I could reset 2 tiles and squeeze in that 2nd Sync base power tile if I wanted, but so far I’ve felt no need to do so
primal wasp
Is Crit 9 a must have on SSGio if I have Crit Support already in something like Hilbert?
I would like to be able to reach Haymaker so I can Sync Nuke with him on Ground Zone
sinful smelt
Nothing is a must have, adjust per your team
primal wasp
Thanks
bronze dragon
If you're gonna sync and d-max with him I'd always pick it
vale geyser
What is the mainly reason for Adrenaline or Head Start over Vigilance in Lucario Cynthia?
jolly thicket
What is the mainly reason for Adrenaline or Head Start over Vigilance in Lucario...
Because her field can wear off before you sync and Triage Tank trigger, both of these can ruin quad queueing
vale geyser
Because her field can wear off before you sync and Triage Tank trigger, both of ...
But does that end up being so necessary to put those two skills over Vigilance?
onyx tusk
She’s pretty tanky enough even without vigilance so getting hit by one or two crits shouldn’t be too much of an issue for her
vale geyser
So at this point, what is better? Adrenaline or head start?
icy raven
So at this point, what is better? Adrenaline or head start?
I Vigalance all my supports. But that's just me
bronze dragon
So at this point, what is better? Adrenaline or head start?
Either is fine
HS1 is more universal, adrenaline 1 is to try and sync nuke under zone after support ex
vale geyser
HS1 is more universal, adrenaline 1 is to try and sync nuke under zone after sup...
I think adrenaline is better for Fighting teams right?
Like keldeo, sirfetch
bronze dragon
Yes
vale geyser
Thank u! Adrenaline then!
vale geyser
Yes
Im doing test (with adrenaline) and i think that the teams needs more sync accel stuffs
Just adrenaline isnt enhoug right?
bronze dragon
It's not enough alone
vale geyser
😭😭😭
bronze dragon
You need fast animations, turn denying or sync accel
bronze dragon
I was rolling cookies for either hs1 or adr1, got hs1 so settled there
vale geyser
Thank u Racer 
stuck idol
what's the best lucky skill for SS Wally at 1/5?
placid heart
Head start mind games adrenaline
bronze dragon
Hs1/adr1
stuck idol
thanks
placid heart
If I had him I’d prolly not sync with him and use a diff mega support but ye head start is super useful especially when used with like SSBrendan
copper verge
Personal advice: when you're not sure why/how you use a HS or Adrenaline, might as well save your cookies.
But do keep in mind those are just getting universally better over time as we're getting more and more unit with Sync acceleration effect. For instance HS is recommend on Cynthia not only because it can possibly enable a 1st Sync under Zone if you want, but also because since she also has on the grid, it means any teammate bringing -1 CD make the comp a turn skip. Adrenaline is more for general quad-queue adaptation or occasional post-sync accel you might have around her.
primal mason
Heyo does anyone have a grid for Wally at 3/5?
I made this but I'm not too sure if that's good enough
echo crypt
you are better off dropping Overpower and grabbing something like Discourage 2 instead
primal mason
Aight
placid heart
Is this a good grid
placid heart
Oh alright pog
spring belfry
So at this point, what is better? Adrenaline or head start?
adrenaline
vale geyser
adrenaline
Explain me 😅
spring belfry
SSA Cynthia is hella bulky
she has like 2 max guards
and enemy rarely crits
adrenaline 1 makes more sense because her activating zone after sync makes it really hard to quad queue for 2nd sync in csmm
even if enemy crits
her base defense is already high due to master passive + bulky af def stats
and her healing is nuts
double small regen heal chance on zone and upon hit
im not even counting potions yet lol
bronze dragon
Zone activation post sync doesn't affect quad queue in anything
It's only reactive passives (fighting zone triage tank 4) or zone running out before you sync
sly fulcrum
ss elesa/ sc diantha/ ssa cynthia best fighting team
spring belfry
It's only reactive passives (fighting zone triage tank 4) or zone running out be...
ah yes that
but even so its saving alot of headaches anyway
zone running out always 90% of the time
unless u spam most tmson first sync turn
bronze dragon
Doesn't happen with head start 1
primal wasp
Full Support Sync
primal wasp
Full Sun Support
primal wasp
General Tank
I think this one in particular can be improved upon since hitting that top left corner is always so annoying but tempting
Let me know any suggestions or improvements you think can be made on my pathing
primal wasp
They are all the same ones that the bot links
I would probably say to remove the Sunbather and aim for Adrenaline or Give Me Five
Not sure which one is considered more valuable?
vital trellis
Which Karen grid should I use for damage
primal wasp
Dirty Fighting is pretty solid
Toxic Bite is valid but not the way I would build her
sweet parcel
Not sure which one is considered more valuable?
Depends on team comps
sweet parcel
Which Karen grid should I use for damage
Have you ever checked the pins?
formal abyss
How do i build Lillie and Clefairy as a fairy striker
Sycamore is the only godforsaken fairy dps I have
slate widget
sycamore is way better
formal abyss
Sadge
sinful smelt
Mina
formal abyss
F2P Fairy is very sad
slate widget
How do i build Lillie and Clefairy as a fairy striker
u would want something like this (but its absolute dogshit)
merry onyx
pretty sure this would be better
you dont really want mgr, this would maximize her damage
jolly thicket
Ugh, still no builds for at least SS Wally
stark berry
I guess fairy is pretty busted if you have SS wally (and 3/5 SS brendan) or mediocre if not
In the general pool i guess the best fairy damage options are Clefairy or Altaria
sweet parcel
If you have Clefairy, Lillie Comfey is a lot better
Not to mention Granbull and Xerneas
formal abyss
Also, Altaria doesn’t synergize well with SS Wally
sweet parcel
Only her sync doesnt synergize welll with him
bronze dragon
Also, Altaria doesn’t synergize well with SS Wally
How does it not?
cloud crane
Also, Altaria doesn’t synergize well with SS Wally
Kinda does. Fairy sync damage with Wally and Lisia moonblasts are good
sly fulcrum
SS wally still feels like untapped potential to me.. kinda like bianca back when she first got released, we still don't have a over the top fairy striker for SS wally yet
bronze dragon
Well Wally brings fairy to a new level by himself, he's doubling their damage
SMarnie and Diantha hit harder than any psychic not named SS Steven
Wally has the 3rd strongest sync in the game and it's not hard to set up
icy raven
Wally has the 3rd strongest sync in the game and it's not hard to set up
Wally and who?
placid heart
I think nessa and maybe champion Iris maybe she was dethroned a while back I’m unsure
gentle sun
Right, that probably would have pushed those 2 higher up in Sync damage
cloud crane
With Alister I guess that will also change
placid heart
Aren’t there only like 5 ghost techs
Morty cynthia allister agatha
And someone else
placid heart
Oh her
cloud crane
Oh nice
crystal bay
Apart from eagle eye build, which one is the best grid for sync nuke for Kahili? All on them have a different tile which is useful under circumstances.
bronze dragon
As long as you pick Haymaker and at least 2 BP sync nodes the rest doesn't matter much
Burn synergy 5, eagle eye 4, peck defense crush 4, sterner stuff tank pack
Pick whichever you like or build presets and use accordingly
crystal bay
For now I'll use the standard sync nuke preset. With 4 sync tiles.
uncut vessel
Any 2/5 Sygna Suit Wally grids?
sinful smelt
Just pick a 3/5 and do what you can
uncut vessel
The doc that Spark has isn't updated yet. Only the Tier Lists in it.
kindred stag
I guess
copper verge
Cause I was in vacation travelling. Updates will come when I'll have time for it 🙂
umbral juniper
Should I use healthy healing cookie for 5/5 Jasmine/steelix ex?
Or is vigilance better?
gentle sun
Vigilance has a bit less value on Jasmine since she sets Critical Shield, but if you want the extra insurance policy you could get it
uncut vessel
Cause I was in vacation travelling. Updates will come when I'll have time for it...
That's fair.
placid heart
Oh right
sly fulcrum
Cause I was in vacation travelling. Updates will come when I'll have time for it...
Enjoy your vacation man, this update is underwhelming imo anyways 
uncut vessel
Especially since we now have 4/5 and 5/5 Grid tiles.
shadow wadi
maybe people will build their own grids for once
placid heart
Making grids is hard
I suck at making grids
bronze dragon
Especially since we now have 4/5 and 5/5 Grid tiles.
Omg people are going to have even more anxiety trying to build a grid themselves
placid heart
Btw how does this grid look idk how to take cakewalk if I use him alongside PSerena it’s so secluded by bad stuff crying
sly fulcrum
The only interesting thing this update is... rebuff and fairy getting some long needed power in wally
sly fulcrum
Btw how does this grid look idk how to take cakewalk if I use him alongside PSer...
I wouldn't take TM MPR and go for mighty rush 9 instead and not take drum beating mgr
bronze dragon
I'd do this (considering you want to sync with Victor)
placid heart
Alr thanks 🦑
echo crypt
~~maybe people will build their own grids for once~~
You sweet summer child, if only... Would be better than the constant complaining about guides not being updated fast enough to fulfill their needs...
placid heart
What should I grid with kris if I’m pairing Her alongside Aaron and may?
Since I no longer need accuracy buffs
Does this work
stark berry
Vigilance has a bit less value on Jasmine since she sets Critical Shield, but if...
I still run vigilance on her, since her trainer move isn't unlimited
And most gauntlet boss, just love to spam crits later on
gentle sun
Yeah, like I said, it has less value, not zero
Dunno why I needed to be pinged for that, but eh, wasn't doing anything anyways
stark berry
Forgot that reply pings too
bronze dragon
And most gauntlet boss, just love to spam crits later on
They don't spam crits, they tend to get sure crits when new bars start/get to half bar hp, which you can time with her TM
Giving vigilance to her feels like that old mindset of "if it's a support it has to be vigilance"
placid heart
I still have def crush on my jasmine as idk what else to give her
Jasmine even in gauntlet has never need vigilance as even if she doesn’t get TM MPR she has a lot of ways to remain alive even if she gets crit one shot 🦑
bronze dragon
Wise entry 2
placid heart
Oh right
alpine grove
I put wise entry 2 on mine, after mega she will get another set of spdef buffs
I not sure what to put on my Dawn though, but she currently have fierce entry 2...
sweet parcel
Defense Crush 2 for general use
Wise Entry is good too
CS2 if you use her as side dps / nuker
alpine grove
Oh right maybe i will use dc2, i got no luck on wise entryx2 for her
While waiting for deluxe cookie luck
merry onyx
Oh right maybe i will use dc2, i got no luck on wise entryx2 for her
i personally use adrenaline on dawn
she's ex for me but if she takes damage before sync, power posture messes up quad queue
so adrenaline alleviates that
sweet parcel
Mine has CS2. I almost never use her as tank in CS
Adrenaline would be the second best choice for her
bronze dragon
I gave her rb4
One of the guaranteed cookies
I'm only using her in LG so I'd rather have her support gauge better
She's gonna mess up quad queue anyways
stuck compass
Does any1 here take SC Lillie's TMPropulsion4 node?
bronze dragon
It's useful if you're fishing for -1 or you are using TM post first sync to balance her quad queue issue to ensure second sync
stuck compass
Coz I was thinking of also taking revenge boost 9 since she alr has team triage 9 and regen
crystal bay
Propulsion/heal sound like an interesting grid.
stuck compass
Yeah it does
copper verge
Note that it also synergizes well with her flinch potential (as you can basically skip some turns with well timed combination, though a bit RNG ofc), so I tend to take it when I don't really need the extra ramp up and/or crit squad ^^
stuck compass
That's true we don't really need propulsion if we have flinch
silent wren
So far every time I see SS Cyrus, he is used at 2/5 and not 3/5, what tiles make him so good at 2/5?
copper verge
Personally I tossed that one candy on him for 2/5 cause of those tiles: Umbral Acceleration, DP Aggrav and MGR, Dark Void Fast Track and MGR
So basically a lot smoother gauge for the abusers to go ham. Pinpoint Entry also helps if you wanna Dark Void spam early. Grand Entry can also make him a bit more self sufficient if you care about that.
TL;DR: 2/5 has a bunch of good utility tiles to enhance his kit, 3/5 is more for damage (Sync and/or DP)
bronze dragon
That's true we don't really need propulsion if we have flinch
What he meant is her flinch proccing and assuming you queue last with her is a -2, so her TM giving a -1 combines into a -3, and countdown reduction is useful in multiples of 3
So you can use them together and it becomes a pseudo -3 countdown support
stuck compass
Idgi, why not just flinchlock the enemy then 🤔