Battle Rally

[eternal nebula]

What is the stage gimmick

[urban ledge]

For Summer N I think

[eternal nebula]

Yeah but like

My stuff dies to one AoE

I got the lucky stage

No multiplier though

[hasty marlin]

End multipliers don’t exist yet

[eternal nebula]

Oh

Well anyways

This is good so far

[hasty marlin]

For now it’s just 0.2x on retire

Likely a feature in place for when they eventually want to do proper rally events or expand the mode with different ticket types or something else along the lines

Which will probably be a while

[hasty marlin]

Decent but you really want to get that spending down to like 500-700 at most if you can

Going below like 400 or so spent risks cases where you lack the stats to overcome VH stages without breaking the matching roles sometimes

Until you have a really developed wide box

Even veterans like me still struggle sometimes (to the point where this week I actually had to apple cup for once since sprint strike and anabel is a terrible combination with only 300% damage and nothing else)

[eternal nebula]

Idk I wanted to check for 1.5k points

Considering apple cup is 500

And seescope is 300

[hasty marlin]

Never seescope

You can plot with pomatools to see role bonuses

And apple cup is rarely needed. You can beat most ubs with ~300-400% stats and damage each

[eternal nebula]

I more so wanted the type

[hasty marlin]

As long as you can fit the gimmicks

Type barely matters

The gimmicks are the big thing

Just cause you’re on type doesn’t mean you’re answering gimmicks

That’s a key to for example slamming a sstred into a sentry x3 fight

You’d also be caught unaware by any fights with acute senses etc half the time

Use the tools provided in the pins and you can easily cut off 800ish points without adding much pain to the clears

(Of course sometimes you still have to cup but most of time it’s simpler to just go down to hard mode in that case and lose less unless neither a10 is answerable between VH and H)

[pearl lion]

what's with the point conversion multiplier thing

are we gonna get items for doubling our points or smth?

[viral loom]

Most likely during events, yes

Or it could be just another leftover thing like Hard lvl. 1 on CS

Sad times, second time I have to go lower for points

[stark dawn]

It's for when you quit before the end

[timid hound]

Wow, my free boost this week isn't pants

Flying Upgrade

Still a fairly restrictive type for me though, not to mention there's a lack of defensive options in it aside from Skyla and Falkner lmao

[severe bronze]

variety select falkner

[timid hound]

Oh no

OG Falkner

[severe bronze]

[timid hound]

Well I suppose with enough boosts he's serviceable

Definitely not prime A10 candiate though

[severe bronze]

fly dodge and fly mpr fishing

[timid hound]

Too much effort

[thick mauve]

Good run overall, main character boost, thorton VH

[crisp token]

Ok yeah now I see why you guys hate Palmer so much, wasted 400 points just to see I was nowhere near close to beating him

Got garbage items for floor 10

Combined with the fact that I lost 100 points not using up my 2 EXRs on a beatable VH stage instead of saving them only to step down to Hard, I might as well have bought the Apple Cup and beat him up that way, at least I'd have fun with it

Should've saved Rei then maybe I'd have a chance

Zerena just couldn't cut it at all

Blundered run damn, could've gotten 9450

[pseudo egret]

Is this worth it?

Stuck with absolutely terrible buffs this run

[hasty marlin]

How reliably can you buff accuracy though on your good units? That is really tough to consider reliable when it’s one of the less frequent buffs

[pseudo egret]

Nope!

Yeah probably will have to plow through

[hasty marlin]

If you can’t reliably trigger it then don’t get it

What’s the ! Icon one btw

Don’t recognize it

[pseudo egret]

Any status condition

[hasty marlin]

That’s worth it

[pseudo egret]

A10 status condition immunity tho

[hasty marlin]

Status condition is easy to fit

[pseudo egret]

[hasty marlin]

A10 is interference immune

Not status condition immune

[pseudo egret]

Wide Awake?

[hasty marlin]

You can poison para etc a10

[pseudo egret]

Does rebuff count as status condition?

[hasty marlin]

No

Use para or poison or burn

They’re easy to fit

[pseudo egret]

Uhhh I'll see how

Strike Tech A10 btw

[hasty marlin]

Got sstred by chance

[pseudo egret]

Nope

[hasty marlin]

Ouch

[pseudo egret]

How to tank

[hasty marlin]

Techs have decent tank options at least. Not the best but options will vary by stage and what your box is like

I tanked argenta with gordie once lol

Although he needs pretty big stat boosts to live

Like 400%ish range

It’s hard to live supoortless below 200% I think at times

[cobalt furnace]

SS Steven Defence has saved me multiple times

His AOE sustain capabilities are not great but a lot of top tier techs have some form of Gradual Heals

[pseudo egret]

tech strike VH darach

do yall think it's possible for tech to tank

Can't ditch gladion re: villain boost

Four hit dango...useless...

Thinking of waiting for caked sc irida to replace nc rosa

And tanking with...uhhh

Wait does this apply to each sync move AKA 27 cd total, 9 for each sync?

Huh

Can probably nuke darach to tomorrow then

[hasty marlin]

Yep, pretty crazy

[pseudo egret]

hmmm should I cake riley

or should I cake ssr cynth\ 1/5

if I want to maximize my BR returns

and I'm planning to get caked SC Irida 3/5

[hasty marlin]

1/5 ssrc doesn’t really contribute much and there’s plenty of strike>tech units

Enhancing sprintfields while they’re low quantity is better

More likely to be able to streak with them means less throwing them away just to need them a stage or two later

It’s part of what makes sprintfield cakes so desirable atm. Cause outside of gacha you only have one of each

[pseudo egret]

Makes sense

I didn't get spectrier (took a break)

So I have 0 of fields outside of gacha

[hasty marlin]

Yep.

It’s also why I am caking any sprintfields I pull

Even if their nuke is dogshit like Wallace

[pseudo egret]

Akari has been serving me very well

[hasty marlin]

[pseudo egret]

That beautiful + atk + crit on entry

Field Strike

[hasty marlin]

I went from planning to support cake steven this month to being likely to cake either Riley or champ silver due to those considerations

My last run made it exceptionally clear that I need more of those so silvers my top priority if I get him soon

Only got three multis left in the month though, maybe four

Need 14600 more to pity him and only got just over 10k left in month

[burnt fox]

From Stage 1 to 5 I had Akari in the team

They kept giving me field/strike or both

[severe bronze]

what role combo did you get

if you get tech its gucci

[burnt fox]

My best score yet

I had to use Rei on Stage 8 but the UB on Stage 10 was Palmer so I couldn’t do it rip

[timid hound]

What boost did you purchase?

[wary kayak]

I'm not thrilled about having Ice Upgrade. D'you think I should go for Hoenn Upgrade or hold out for something else?
Also wondering if the Confuse multi is good or too hard to build for.

(Role pattern, I'm on round 2)

[simple frost]

Id go hoenn

[wary kayak]

Perhaps, indeed. I have 32 Hoenn pairs

Shouldn't be too bad to find someone that fits each stage

[timid hound]

Ice is kinda pants

But still better than Trial Giver Upgrade

[wary kayak]

I only have 15 ice plus eggmons

[timid hound]

[leaden wraith]

Hoenn doesnt have many UB killers, so be careful

[timid hound]

Irida is a Field pair right

That was a joke

[leaden wraith]

[simple frost]

If else fails, hard mode is in there o/

[timid hound]

If all else fails, Apple Cup is there

[leaden wraith]

[wary kayak]

Weeeeelll... The worst one is Anabel, and May or Archie can work there.

[timid hound]

Support Field is kinda

[wary kayak]

Oh. Shit.

Hm.

[timid hound]

Well if you have rolex like SSTRed

Not bad

[simple frost]

Anni May perhaprs? If you have her

[timid hound]

Otherwise kinda

[wary kayak]

I do, but not caked yet (This rally was meant to get the coins for her, so that I can use her against Psychic Masters)

[wary kayak]

Ye, I have TBolt Red 2/5 and caked

Maybe I should save him for that rather than use him for coins in the Tech/field round?

[simple frost]

Should do it. Well gl

[leaden wraith]

do you have other Field?

[wary kayak]

Uhhhhh Spectrier?

Mix Red

[simple frost]

Uh u can definitely use sst red at area 9 fir tech bonus

[timid hound]

Yeah

I'd throw Spectrier to A4

[simple frost]

Cakes?

[leaden wraith]

Mix Red is a solid contender for Argenta and Anabel, so definitely save him too

[wary kayak]

I believe so, for Striker

[leaden wraith]

A7 is Strike Field tho, do you have Mixed caked?

[sudden hull]

is ny wallace good at any ub besides thorton

[wary kayak]

I just checked and yup, he had Striker rolex

[sudden hull]

i feel like darach is a possibility but without nc leaf it really just feels whelming

[wary kayak]

So I'll buy the Hoenn upgrade and leave the Confuse multi. Is that the play?

[simple frost]

Depends on how many you can confuse immediately

[wary kayak]

I do have two teeter dancers... But only two

(Mallow, Neo Rosa)

[simple frost]

Unless youre gonna be using nc rosa all the way, i wouldnt buy it

[leaden wraith]

not worth buying any powerups outside of crit power up and theme boosts

in general

[wary kayak]

I mean, crit powerup doesn't always spawn

I've seen it maybe three times

(I did grab the hell out of it each time)

[simple frost]

Rng is harsh sometimes

[leaden wraith]

then you should wait until it spawns

just dont buy unnecessary boosts, especially if you dont have many pairs with EXR

[timid hound]

Honestly crit power up is extremely rare lmao

I once saw it on sale and thought about how rare this must be

[sudden hull]

well its also broken

cuz u should crit every attack ideally

[leaden wraith]

yet its the best non themed powerboost

[simple frost]

I welcome rebuffs power

[timid hound]

I welcome Lucky Area

But it never seems to want to come

[wary kayak]

Ugh, I never know what to do for Sprintfield

[sudden hull]

cry

[wary kayak]

Round 4 vs Water-weak Alola League Kukui

[sudden hull]

just accept the points loss and move on cuz its not worth sacking any of those that early except maybe spectrier

[wary kayak]

Suppose I will, then

[timid hound]

Cry

Did you use Riley for a previous Sprintfield or

[leaden wraith]

A2 is Strike Field, so they might haved used him there

[timid hound]

[wary kayak]

Yeah, it was Strike Field

[sudden hull]

oh boy steel default boost

already off to a not amazing start

[simple frost]

Oof

That was my boost last week

What about your track role bonus?

[sudden hull]

steel and water for attack type

welp i already cleared so

is fighting any better than steel

[leaden wraith]

Depends on your roster

[sudden hull]

well my fighting is only damage dealer whereas steel has some supports

[leaden wraith]

Also, your seed has 2 branch, one of them is heavily strike focused

And both of them have strike sprint at a10

[sudden hull]

eughsjfhekf

eww

[simple frost]

Ooof.

Tanking with steven if you have him .-.;

[sudden hull]

you mean metagross

cuz i only have ss

[leaden wraith]

You can always wait for better theme boosts

[sudden hull]

yeah ill wait

i got electric terrain boost

[wary kayak]

Time for a pro gamer move. Round 8 is Support/Sprint...

[sudden hull]

OK YES I GOT PSYCHIC BOOST

GOD SEND

[wary kayak]

...And then I buy the binoculars so I can see Round 10 before having to decide whether to remove Rosa and Cynthia.

...Fuck.

How am I even going to...? Hm.

[timid hound]

People actually buy binoculars

[wary kayak]

I have Neo Hop, and it might be worth sacrificing a role bonus to slot him in

[wary kayak]

Basically if it was someone I'd want Rosa/Cynthia on, I could accept the point loss in round 9 to keep them in, and be in better shape for round 10.

While they are useful against Palmer, I think Neo Hop on his own can still do the work without them. Hm.

[leaden wraith]

I dont think you can beat VH Palmer with a forced Hoenn in your team

[wary kayak]

Hm?

My damage multi was "Any stat down" and boy howdy do this bird and mouse bring stats down

[leaden wraith]

real

[timid hound]

Y'ALL

[simple frost]

Noice~

[timid hound]

A bit too early for my liking but welcome nonetheless

[simple frost]

Chase + Neo Champion Rosa + Aura Cynthia lets go

[timid hound]

Lemme check pattern

If A10 is sprint support I'm gonna explode

I'm gonna explode

[simple frost]

letsee your bonus i suppose

[timid hound]

[simple frost]

Damn

[timid hound]

Unlucky Lucky Area

[simple frost]

do you take the triple Sprint/Support or wut?

[timid hound]

I do

Help me pick

NCRosa SSACynthia SSDawn Chase

[crisp token]

SSAC, NC Rosa, SS Dawn stonks

[timid hound]

Who's going into A10?

They're all Support Sprint

[simple frost]

Aura Cynthia for Darach / Palmer just in case

[timid hound]

Okay

How about everyone else?

[crisp token]

Sac em

[leaden wraith]

Go to A3

[crisp token]

Get those points

[timid hound]

Yeah but who do I sacc

[simple frost]

^

[crisp token]

Super worth

[timid hound]

Or rather who do I save

[leaden wraith]

All of them

[crisp token]

Everyone else besides SSAC

[simple frost]

can SS Dawn work in UB sheningans?

[timid hound]

Oh

[simple frost]

i'd do it.

2400 points.

[timid hound]

I thought you mean sacc as in throw them into A3

Okay gonna save Cynthia then

[leaden wraith]

you can regret later

[timid hound]

Sprintfield is ruining my life

[crisp token]

Yes that's what I mean

[leaden wraith]

🏃‍♂️

[simple frost]

you can get to 12000 points at this rate ❤️

[crisp token]

Dump all into the Lucky Stage for the points

[timid hound]

This feels so wrong

[crisp token]

That's 1200 points right there from 1 floor

[crisp token]

But the points are so right

You gain more than you might lose later on if you needed them

[timid hound]

2400

Also lost like some of the best supports in the game

ON AREA 3

[crisp token]

Oh damn I miscounted, that's even better than my math

[timid hound]

[crisp token]

I sacced mine on floor 1

[timid hound]

I can't even bring any of them into A4

[timid hound]

Super real

[crisp token]

This was mine

Literally the first 3 floors matched most of my EXRs

So I do what I gotta do

Yeet

[timid hound]

Yeet

I could always rolex Paulo if push comes to shove

But nah

I'll be fine maybe hopefully

[crisp token]

He's pretty good honestly

I don't regret it

[timid hound]

How's his defenses pre sync

Can he main tank

[crisp token]

I only have him at 1/5, but he works just enough to let your DPS wreck em

[timid hound]

Hm alright

I have him 1/5 too

I'll consider it

[crisp token]

Don't expect him to live that long, but he does the job at acceleration very well

[timid hound]

Of course

Never seen this PU before — looks very interesting albeit impractical

[leaden wraith]

Its name is not crit power up, so it sucks

[simple frost]

Its baad.

[crisp token]

These are just filler man

Stopping us from getting the good stuff

[simple frost]

i mean if you have almost 0 boosts, and you're getting hit to 10%f your HP, Maybe.

[crisp token]

Who specifically plans on getting their pairs to 50% HP

[simple frost]

Lance gaming? pfft.

[crisp token]

And it's just a plain 100% attack boost

If it was higher it might be interesting

But this just sucks for 100 points

Just buy the theme boost if you wanted to spend 100

[timid hound]

I'm sinking so many good pairs early lol

For the sake of boosts

Worth tho

[simple frost]

u need the points.

[crisp token]

Sink or swim? Nah, sink and win

Embrace the ocean floor

[timid hound]

You're so real

[leaden wraith]

Grimsley's voice echoing in my head

[timid hound]

Lenora + NCSerena surprisingly not bad core

[hasty marlin]

i saw this recently too, i was puzzled a decent bit but nonetheless skipped it

[crisp token]

You too huh

[timid hound]

No puzzling needed

If it ain't crit PU it ain't it

[hasty marlin]

FWIW damage boosts are 50 points not 100

[crisp token]

I still haven't seen Crit PU

[hasty marlin]

but still really bad activation condition

[crisp token]

Oh right

I don't buy them

You can tell

[simple frost]

i buy the Rebuff

[hasty marlin]

i usually get a handful of damage ups and call it a day

[simple frost]

when i've got 8 or 7 areas that use Sprint 😐

[timid hound]

A6 Alder Sprintfield

Time to use NCSilver

[hasty marlin]

as you can see here ive been decently consistent with 300% damage and nothing else extra, all things considered... barring anabel being a meanie this week lmaoooo

even tried offrole irida for debuffs and weather and even with fire guard + that, gladion fucking DIES on sync

[crisp token]

Palmer and Anabel just plain suck

[hasty marlin]

not being able to fit bug alongside it really fucked me over

[timid hound]

Unboosted btw

Lezgo

Riley don't die

[hasty marlin]

honestly i think i would of been fine if it was palmer, unironically. since i could force a bea team probably with enough damage boosts.

[timid hound]

He's so gonna die

[hasty marlin]

anabels gimmick just REQUIRES role compression even with boosts which just

its not always possible

even on hard i couldnt comfortably clear so i just bit the bullet and took the apple cup for first time this week

[timid hound]

Holy crap I did it

Just flinch lock

This is tempting

Thoughts?

[simple frost]

how many more main characters can you field?

[timid hound]

Wdym

[simple frost]

like how many more sync pairs from the main character can you field in the climb?

[timid hound]

Oh I'm only thinking of A10

I can climb A1-9 with Flying Upgrade it's no big deal

That said, my A10 role bonus is Sprintfield

[crisp token]

Eh I wouldn't buy it if I were you

[timid hound]

My remaining Main Character Sprintfield is Rei, Akari, SSTRed, MRed

Aight

I have no flying sprintfield

[crisp token]

Either you go hard with the one use items for the same points on the last floor

Or just take the small points hit and do Hard

[timid hound]

That's actually super valid wtf

Good point

[crisp token]

I only buy extra theme boosts if the one I got can't carry me all the way

Although I've started buying 1 extra just to save myself some time and brain cells

[timid hound]

Why is my Cynthia hitting like a wet paper towel

Okay we good

[timid hound]

Lodge Serena surprisingly good tank

THORTON!

What's his gimmick again lol

[simple frost]

he changes his defenses

[timid hound]

Negative status change & mixed attacker

Uhh

I have Sprintfield

Let's see

[simple frost]

Hum NC Rosa poofed.

[timid hound]

It's so joever

[simple frost]

Hard time.

[timid hound]

That bad huh

[simple frost]

Aura Cynthia has Antitoxin

[timid hound]

I have no boost either

Lucy shouldn't do that much damage I think

I hope

[simple frost]

as long as you've got antitoxin.

you can test her stage out.

[timid hound]

Yep

[simple frost]

Oh Geeta has Antitoxin as well

[timid hound]

Can Lucy be poisoned

[crisp token]

Lucy is just the "bring Antitoxin" stage

That's it

[timid hound]

And debuff speed

[simple frost]

yeah you've got this.

[timid hound]

Easy

Lemme just LS Antoxin on SSTRed

Uh oh

Electric Terrain and Grassy Terrain override each other

Is fine

I swear I activated ET 2 syncs ago why is it still up jfc

Broken

So close to 10k!

[urban ledge]

I love that this mode made me appreciate tanky non supports lol

[timid hound]

Everyone is a tank in this mode lmao

Or rather, you force them to tank

I've used Mallow Tank before with SHY5

[simple frost]

kek

Everyone that isn't named NC Rosa == Tank 😉

[timid hound]

Strike Support

Man this mode is so fun

[crisp token]

This

This is beautiful

[timid hound]

[simple frost]

shafted by the A10 Role Bonus o/

ah wells, 2400 pts at the beginning is not bad at all for a Lucky Stage

[timid hound]

Rally giveth and Rally taketh

[crisp token]

Mostly Rally giveth me a headache

And taketh my sanity

[timid hound]

2 words

||Apple Cup||

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-darkside-star-wars-evil-innerme-gif-12686883553708718330

[sweet mango]

Should i go for sinnoh upgrade?

Currently i have rival 2x

[leaden wraith]

are your Rival and Sinnoh units good enough?

and have you been saving certain someone for the A10? Like NC Blue with Rival tag

[sweet mango]

Yeah

I’m just on stage 2

[leaden wraith]

your Rival roster is way better than Sinnoh, so you should keep it

and don't bother with purchasing other theme boosts

[sweet mango]

So go 300 into rival as usual?

[leaden wraith]

yeah

[sudden hull]

psychic boost >>> steel boost right

[urban ledge]

Generally yes

Unless you have a freaky roster lol

[crisp token]

Unless you're doublet

[simple frost]

o.o;

[finite tundra]

got sprint/support and strike/field early, is it worth burning through nc Nate and Rosa already for the dual bonus (i don't have many other sprints or fields; EXR rei, riley, and archer, victrier)

[simple frost]

who are your field/sprints ?

[finite tundra]

ig rei and riley can carry sprint from area 4-8, though the third field pair causes trouble

[simple frost]

and who are your usual UB killers?

also what's your bonus?

[finite tundra]

ub i usually take only hard mode and anyone decent can swing at it

main character, good one

sprints: rei, riley, archer, nc rosa
field: nc nate, victrier
all exr where applicable

[simple frost]

hum. I'd run Riley + 2 supports (of the main charaacter variety) at Area 1.

for Area 2, 3 strikes.

for Area 3, 1 Support + 2 Techs

[finite tundra]

so not worth the double role match, save for later?

[simple frost]

is Rei EXR'd?

[finite tundra]

yeah i can deal with those compositions fine enough, just wondering whether to sac my good pairs early for the double bonus

yup they r all exr'd

[simple frost]

you COULD do NC Rosa early, but depends on your entire roster if you can manage the further down the path.

[finite tundra]

true, shed make a good area 6-8 support

[simple frost]

i'm assuming she's 3/5?

[finite tundra]

ah no but she usually handles fine for me

[simple frost]

that works fine

well good luck o/

[finite tundra]

I'm happy to finally get mc boost at least, considering that most of my big sprint/fielders are MC

let's see how it'll go! area 10 str/supp also looking very good for nc blue

[leaden wraith]

we got the same seed for this week

NC Blue is excellent on A10, yeah

[crisp token]

That was also my seed

Here's my take: don't save for floor 10

Dump at 6

Why? Because there's a chance you don't beat VH10

And you end up multiplying a lower score

NC Blue isn't going to do squat against Palmer

[leaden wraith]

wait, i misremembered, that was my seed 2 weeks ago

[simple frost]

i managed to beat Palmer with NC Blue though 😮

350 spent.

Strike + Sprint though

[karmic briar]

Do keep in mind there’s nothing wrong in doing hard instead of vh in area 10

I had strike + tech bonus and I went with ssroxie/ncred/palmer all out on hard darach instead of vh Anabel

[stiff flume]

Looks worth to me, if you spent nothing on extra bonus for that
Anabel is the most limiting after all

[viral loom]

Do we have a list of which themes can appear as starting buff?

Besides every type

[leaden wraith]

There is an article about Battle Rally on bulbapedia that lists everything about the mode

[crisp token]

Iirc Types, Regions, Trainer Groups

I haven't seen anyone complain they got "Grown Woman" theme so

[sudden hull]

Grown Woman theme would be absolutely awful

[static arch]

Very surprised I beat VH Palmer with only 250 points spent. Strike/sprint, geeta/NC blue/sirfetchd

That SE next from geeta to sirfetch'd is NOICR

Did support sync with zaodos first, then got like 280k sync with sirfetch'd after SE next from her

[languid citrus]

I started with trial giver and have a preset with 8 strikes, should I go for Unova or Hoenn bonus in the shop?

[sudden hull]

should i cake archer even if i wont use him

[leaden wraith]

Which one is overall stronger?

[sudden hull]

outside of rally

[leaden wraith]

He has a niche of having the only Sprint Tech pair, so he is useful in BR at least. I would still not recommend caking him tho, unless you are fine with investment

[sudden hull]

im close to 2 candies

but i still dont think id use him over like sidney

[crisp token]

Depends on your squad for each region

Whichever you have overall that has more cakes, or stronger

By stronger I mean either a pair that can carry you the entire run, or multiple pairs that can carry each floor

[languid citrus]

I guess I’m committing to Unova

[crisp token]

It does have NC Rosa

[languid citrus]

Yea I’ve got both Chate and Chosa caked, but I’ll probably have to sacrifice them by the end

[crisp token]

So long as the sacrifice nets you points, it's a good sacrifice

[sudden hull]

what battle challenge was this again?

this was palentine’s 2022 right

[wary kayak]

What was their weakpoint?

[heavy fjord]

it would seem so

[sudden hull]

steel

surging sand 3 and team fierce entry 1

[heavy fjord]

sandstorm, steel weak, wants attack debuffs in the tips

that sounds like Palentines 2022 to me

[sudden hull]

i got support sprint boost this round so its rough

[wary kayak]

Marnie for steel and debuffs, Bea to overwrite sand with hail... That makes sense

[sudden hull]

bruh sand is actually so annoying

cuz the chip damage will stop HB5 from activating and hop takes 700 from an opening outrage

[wary kayak]

Is it possible to just not queue anything with him on turn 1?

It sounds like it isn't, but...

[sudden hull]

…asshole

and i got malva for round 9 grusha bc

[hybrid abyss]

Support/Strike:

[sudden hull]

do i take the points loss cuz this feels impossible to do with full bonus units

[crisp token]

See if there's any good items in shop that might help

Hopefully there's something good for 100 pts there

[sudden hull]

not really?

or drastic parfait maybe?

[crisp token]

What does that do

[sudden hull]

+6 to all stats except crit

[crisp token]

Eh nah

I mean, how close are you

[sudden hull]

not very close at all

[crisp token]

I mean if those are your best options then uh

Who's tanking btw

Caitlin?

[sudden hull]

selene cuz caitlin has no mp left

ugh i shouldve saved ny wallace

this sucks

[crisp token]

She does have Catalytic Cure, which combined with the +6 item might be enough to tank

The question is are you even doing enough damage to matter

1/5 Rose and um Selene are...well

[sudden hull]

i mean rose with the item probably works but she has damage reduction in zone which i cant deal with

[crisp token]

Ohh

Ok that's rough

[sudden hull]

maybe ill just use grusha cuz i do have him

and take the points loss

[crisp token]

Unless you buy permanent Flying Zone

don't

Does Rose Max Steelspike or whatever remove Zone

Or just terrain

[sudden hull]

its damage field

ground max is sandstorm

which doesnt help

[crisp token]

[sudden hull]

yeah

it would probably be fine if i 3/5 him but candying for br is fairly questionable isnt it

[crisp token]

I've done my fair share of candy/cake/energy expansion solely for Rally 👀

I am in no position to judge

[hasty marlin]

I candied sstred primarily for br

Literally br is my number one investment place cause I enjoy it so much

Similarly was my reason for caring so much about 3/5 on gladion

Cause smove bmove refresh increases his rally value by a good margin

[sudden hull]

…damnit

[hasty marlin]

Strike sprint anabel is big L

Thorton might be possible ? Maybe

[sudden hull]

do any of these help:..

if only severe sundae was there instead of the 2 stat buff items

man i might have to apple cup this

cuz thorton is hell no with my current strikes

[hasty marlin]

No ss hilda?

I assume

[sudden hull]

no

[hasty marlin]

Rip

[wary kayak]

Well, perma rain helps
Acc up with acc dmg multi helps
But that's 550 pts when the Apple Cup is 500, so oof

(Archie can selfbuff acc, I believe)

[sudden hull]

he can but i dont have enough debuffs

id have to run archer and nc blue

[stiff flume]

Not worth
With that x4 stats just go on normal without extra stuff
Anabel need weather+heavy debuffs and it's not easy without good techs

[sudden hull]

is thorton also bad with strike sprint?

[wary kayak]

Normal is also Anabel

[sudden hull]

cuz i have nc blue

[hybrid abyss]

Yeah at that point, just go Hard

[sudden hull]

brain fart not leaf

[stiff flume]

It's thorton

[hybrid abyss]

wrong - hard is Thorton

[sudden hull]

so im just fucked regardless i suppose

yeah thorton and anabel on strike sprint is particularly horrendous

[wary kayak]

BEHOLD, A NORMAL THORTON

[stiff flume]

Oh lol i meant Hard

I keep forgetting the middle is Hard
But i meant that

[hybrid abyss]

oh wow... those boosts are horrendous

[sudden hull]

ugh

i just realized i dont have strike for nc blue

cuz i caked ny wallace instead

im so annoyed lol

[hybrid abyss]

do you have extra cake coins to spare?

[sudden hull]

no

[hybrid abyss]

daily tickets?

[sudden hull]

nope

i was working on a sprint cake

then realized i have no one who uses it

[sweet mango]

I accidentally exchanged all of my tickets into sprint coins and went with it and got a sprint cake for ss dawn

Was considering a support cake for ss lusamine

[hybrid abyss]

man what is with everyone mindlessly wasting their resources...?

[stiff flume]

[sudden hull]

its really my problem cuz i didnt check beforehand

but like yeah it sucks

[stiff flume]

Cakes are easy to get now so

[sweet mango]

I fat fingered exchange

[wary kayak]

Gacha games are not marketed to people who make good decisions

[sudden hull]

i have a tech cake and im not sure who to give it to

archer for br is probably the best option but i dont really like using him normally

[hybrid abyss]

saving:

[sudden hull]

i mean if it makes br easier id do it

[sweet mango]

I use archer as a flinch bot

[sudden hull]

cuz its a mega pain in the ass sometimes

[sweet mango]

3/5 exr

[hybrid abyss]

I'd advise to save cakes unless you get the perfect combo on BR

[sweet mango]

My run

[hasty marlin]

gacha games are marketed toward people who do not read. Change my mind.

[hybrid abyss]

the word "download":

[sweet mango]

https://tenor.com/view/spittin-spitting-has-a-reason-gif-10938494213162386020

[stiff flume]

We got mostrly supports with that
Any of them? Or you already caked them?

[sudden hull]

none

all of my supports are tech/strike

[stiff flume]

[sudden hull]

i have 7 cake coin tickets but its not enough to get a full cake

[stiff flume]

Well then Hard is the way
I too got thorton that time VH Anabel had Sprint+Field
If your ncBlue is caked it's a breeze with a x4 psychic boost (even gio)

[red ginkgo]

got my second lucky stage ever and jt was tech support so i got the 6 roll bonus with ss steven, ny clair and proton . no way ill beat this personal best for a loong tIme. very hard was thorton and trying to do it with ssdawn/paulo/h sycamore was both incredibly unfun and impossible.

[simple frost]

did ya managed to beat it?

VH Anabel + H Thorton i mean

If you still have Solgaleo, H Thorton will be hilarious. Just need a Special Defense attacker to bring him down from 100% to 60%

[true field]

Does anyone have the link to that page that has all the Battle Rally opponents details?

[leaden wraith]

We have 2 pastebin links in the pins here

+pins

[hexed patio]

See below on how to check channel pins!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/957144362624634931/1214245497754091570/Pin.mp4?ex=65f8693e&is=65e5f43e&hm=b9d9e7a1a428377ebb0ef122514359d2405dd3f4e0775c17f2146eb06ca90a67&

[true field]

Thnx!

[glass patrol]

good thingw e now have a command for pins

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze

[sudden hull]

oh he works?

[simple frost]

you just need to be able to attack over his health from 100 to 60, and solgaleo will eat thorton up.

hum its Hard too so it shouldn't be that hard with 2x steel upgrade

4x psychic too, if you still have a rebuffer as well will make your life easier

[sudden hull]

i wasnt gonna deal with anabel on very hard

sadly my only psychic striker was tate so i took a hit on points again

[simple frost]

Oh you could've used tate then lulz

you had a rebuffer, that's enough.

i think.

ah wells gj

[sudden hull]

hes level 1

like hes unleveled

[simple frost]

Mewtwo used already?

[sudden hull]

yeah

[simple frost]

ah rough.

[sudden hull]

a lot of strike bonus this time

[simple frost]

Caitlin too?

[sudden hull]

yeah

[simple frost]

yep rough.

[sudden hull]

and i got hoenn boost

[simple frost]

ou

[sudden hull]

and my starting roles is support strike

funny how this worked

[sacred silo]

Is there something that I'm missing about this stage? It seems abnormally strong for Area 7 VH...

[simple frost]

That's 2024 New Year event

[sudden hull]

grassy terrain boosted attacks generally will hurt

[simple frost]

Fire weak right? .-.

[sudden hull]

newer battle challenges will generally be harder

[simple frost]

you need to change the terrain to something else or hve NY Clair / NY Wwallace

[ionic sigil]

That stage just sucks regardless

[simple frost]

oh and aoe -spd down so yikes.

[sacred silo]

Especially for Strike/Field bonuses...

[ionic sigil]

I hope you enjoy Turn 1 Wood Hammer

[simple frost]

Did you use Event Victor already?

[sacred silo]

Yep. I had a Field/Sprint area four.

I only have one of each of the newer roles.

[leaden wraith]

do you have any Field or Strike who setups terrain?

[sacred silo]

Do any strike pairs set terrain?

[leaden wraith]

there are quite a few

[glass patrol]

lana go brr

[sudden hull]

mostly limited but they exist

[ionic sigil]

That’s the stage I’m currently stuck on with my alt even. But haven’t had the time to deal with it

[glass patrol]

theyre really quite rare tho arent they

[urban ledge]

Silver comes to mind haha

[glass patrol]

das not terrain

[urban ledge]

Oh wait that’s weather

[glass patrol]

buti guess yeah

[urban ledge]

Yeah

[ionic sigil]

SST Red 3/5 isn’t enough even

[simple frost]

Sun helps a bit.

if you're running Fire aand whatanot.

[sacred silo]

I'll just go for the Hard stage, I think.

[sudden hull]

oh yeah i got anniversary 2022

on round 5

clear advantage with support sprint

joy

like i do have weather supports but i dont wanna use them this early

[ionic sigil]

Is that the Kris, Hop and Lucas stage?

[sudden hull]

no

its iris burgh roxie

2.5

spatk drops and flinch dragon weak mid

what the hell was this stage??

is this sc 2022

wise entry x2 it seems and prefers physical

grass weak mid bug weak sides

[tame forge]

I think so yeah

The whole tea event

[leaden wraith]

SC Sonia's BC

[sudden hull]

and i got nc kanto bc 💀

man

and its field sprint

good thing ny wallace and archer cover both of my bonuses

and done

darach is so easy in comparison lol

[timid hound]

Don't worry, I made sure to use up NCBlue in some low level Area too for maximum role bonus

[molten ice]

Starting bonus was rock type in team, bought it twice more but the last stage was way too easy, it was VH Lucy. Also got Lucky stage at area 8 but it was sprint/field so could only get 1500 points out of it

[urban ledge]

Oof

[timid hound]

9k still awesome

[hasty marlin]

imo better to slightly overshoot spend than completely undershoot

[timid hound]

Real

[molten ice]

thats true

[sweet mango]

Argenta again

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-how-many-times-do-we-need-to-teach-you-old-man-slow-thick-gif-12272188

[simple frost]

Support & Field eh? 😮

[sweet mango]

Yeah but idk who changes weather twice

Nywallace can max flare once

[simple frost]

what's your upgrade, Main Character?

or Villain?

[sweet mango]

Rival

I have paulo exr

Double sand extension?

[simple frost]

that can work.

but the 2nd rebuff is gonna be difficult

You could have NC Rosa just aoe first, get them to 50%.

then use her aoe again at 50%

you can try, with 400% is gonna be good enough.

[simple frost]

Noice

[tribal abyss]

wait this seed sucks

[lost cliff]

looks like its sst red time

[tribal abyss]

8 areas with field?

xd

[tribal abyss]

yeah good call actually

[tame forge]

And Mix Red

[tribal abyss]

i dont have mix red sadly

[tame forge]

Akari?

[tribal abyss]

also no

[tame forge]

Well SST Red better anyway

You can use him on every area

[tribal abyss]

yeah he should slap

[normal python]

Oh awesome, I got Kanto upgrade in the shop

[oak jolt]

Unless you have s bunch of field/tech units

New personal best, too bad I did a mistake and I rolexed ss serena After the strike support stage (I mixed up with NC Serena and thought she was tech, instead of strike so 150 points lost)

Ofc no lucky area (like always)

[normal python]

Pretty good

[oak jolt]

Basically we scored the same but I spent a bit less in upgrades

[normal python]

Yeah, I kinda overkilled it with the Kanto upgrades

[oak jolt]

It depends on who is the area 10 boss

[normal python]

I got Palmer

Ash did 581k on his B Move with only 2 SpMUN stacks

[oak jolt]

Palmer is probably one of the worse so extra upgrades may be needed

[normal python]

Eh, I still think I could've toned it down

[oak jolt]

Depends also on what roles got the bonus

[normal python]

Striker/Support

Which means NC Blue and Zerena

[oak jolt]

Yes that's a nice combo for palmer

I got darach support sprint

With dark theme boost

At least NC Rosa has decent dps

[normal python]

I used all 3 of my Sprint/Support in Area 1

[sudden hull]

i think this is decent right

[normal python]

Yeah, that's pretty good

[sudden hull]

it was with a bonus area but i barely have caked units

[sweet mango]

You guys have multiple passes?

[normal python]

I've fully used mine

[sudden hull]

i just let them stack

[hybrid abyss]

rip free weekly cake coins

[oak jolt]

I still have 3 that I didn't had time to use day 1

I will use them only if I'm Short for the 20 coins

But I shouldn't be

Maybe if I get atrocious luck on rally

Sadly I missed 11 coins day 1

Just managed to do 2 unoptimized runs

[arctic jasper]

i got 9700 this week

cause i got two 2.0 bonuses on the first area and two 2.0 bonuses and one 1.5 bonus on the lucky area (area 2)

[timid hound]

Real

[oblique breach]

Even is something I cannot

And this is how I do

[leaden wraith]

How is your Field roster? Event Victor looks amazing there

If you dont want to use Victor, Lodge Gladion + an offensive support like Dawn should work

[oblique breach]

just Evenr Victor

[timid hound]

At least your teams won't be dying

Any Rolex?

(Esp of the sprint variety)

[oblique breach]

Six so far

[timid hound]

You could get a lot of sexy role bonuses with support sprint

[oblique breach]

Just Chase EX

I have Riley & Rei EX

[hybrid abyss]

I'd advise you to save Rei for A10 in case Palmer is the final opponent.

[latent matrix]

The UB battles are the same in rally to right

[leaden wraith]

they are the same yes, but their stats except HP change between difficulty

Very Hard is their original stats + 100%
Hard is a slightly nerfed version
Normal has the stats nerfed even more

[latent matrix]

I got Thorton and just trying to find rebuff that’s why

[latent matrix]

Wait so if I don’t finish a rally for the week it carries over to next week or does it start over ?

[leaden wraith]

your progress wont be resetted by any means unless you choose to retire

only weekly missions start over when a new week arrive

[latent matrix]

Oh so I can start on now and if I finish it next week it counts as a finish for next week

[timid hound]

Oh I didn't know Hard was nerfed

I thought it'd be the 1:1 version but guess not

[hasty marlin]

VH without spending is basically the real fight with more restrictions (and maybe hitting a bit harder than usual)

Hard is a wet noodle relative to that

And normal I imagine takes that wet noodle-ness to an extreme even further than hard does

[crisp token]

Noodle so wet it's just water

[hasty marlin]

(Boss) used splash! But nothing happened… (or something like that) is what I am imagining then, lmao. Funny mental image to have when I’m used to them hitting like an isekai truck

[timid hound]

One time I went into Anabel without Boost and her first move killed everyone except NCBlue who was left at 40% HP!

https://tenor.com/view/steven-he-emotional-damage-steven-he-emotional-damage-gif-23428142

[normal python]

Did you change the weather?

[timid hound]

Yes

[mental raft]

Is this team good.
I mean I don't have many bug types, and this is the only bug type area. So I am using Gladion also?

Also choosing this sync grids for good sync moves as Gladion is still 1/5.

Should I do this (I mean the sync grid) I don't want to waste my precious sync orbs

[leaden wraith]

no reason to pick sync move tiles for Aaron, because he is not supposed to do damage

just get TM MPR and Attack Order MGR + Staggering

what theme boosts do you have right now?

also you dont need to stick to ontype in BR

[mental raft]

Ground

[mental raft]

But this is Area 3, I don't want to use my best sync pairs here

[leaden wraith]

replace someone with a Ground type then

you need to include a Ground unit in your teams or else you get stomped in later fights

it's advised to keep checking the shop after every battle to look for better theme boosts

Ground is not really good generally

[mental raft]

I have 3 Areas with that theme in later stages, and I only have a total of 3 of them!

[leaden wraith]

can you check the shop right now?

to see if there is another theme boost available

[simple frost]

shop changes each time you beat an area :o~
So its a good idea to check it for somethin you can buy for your roster.

[mental raft]

Yes I did, but don't have any atm!
I missed the Steel and Grass type during last Area I guess!

But I have a half cake, I think I should us it and save my sync orbs??

[leaden wraith]

you can try using Clay, Aaron and Gladion for current area

dont buy anything for now

unless the A3 is too hard to beat

[mental raft]

Okay

[simple frost]

oh grass would've been nice if you have a lot of those. Steel types are kinda scarce sadly.

[stark dawn]

any egg maybe

[mental raft]

No I didn't watched them after how poor my maxed Charizard performed

I have resources

Let me check if I can find someone suitable

[stark dawn]

you should still hatch your eggs, who knows when they can come in handy

[mental raft]

yeah I do that everyday, but not make them sync pairs

[stark dawn]

go check if you have some ground then

[mental raft]

K

Thankyou sm

Everyone

[mental raft]

I am sorry! I messed up with the counting.
Just checked that I have completed A1 which was a ground type themed, without using any ground type sync pairs.

Now there are two more areas A4 and A9 with this theme.
I am thinking of doing A4 with Hapu (the left and right sync pairs I will find out).
And A9 with Leon& Charizard+Sycamore& Xerneas.

The question now is whom to use at A3 and whom at area 9 for the ground theme??

Also it is wierd but I don't have any ground type eggmons!

Or another option may be both Hapu and Leon at A9 and one of them in A4 and one in A3 out of Clay 5/5 and Bertha 1/5?

[simple frost]

Leon/Charizard is a fire-type though

[mental raft]

But he knows earthquake

[simple frost]

He doesnt have Ground Type Theme, he does have Earthquakes though.

it only counts if the sync pair has Ground-type Theme

Did you get anything decent in shop? Like Grass again?

Grass, Water, Fire ?

[mental raft]

Yeah! That's why I am asking which sync pair at which stage.

Wait a minute I will make this question easier!

I have three ground type Sync pairs.
And the theme is also ground type!
I have one bug area at A3 and two ground area at A4 and A9 respectively! And I don't have any good bug types I guess!
So I want to split these three Ground Type Sync pairs into these areas to get the benefit of ground theme!

Umm. I probably don't need them in any other area as I have plans for those!

Also, Leon's Charizard will be a helping hand (as he has Max move too) to the ground type in A9.

The thing is out of these three which one to choose at which Area:- A3(Bug), A4(Ground) and A9(Ground)?

I am sorry if it sounds confusing!

[mental raft]

I didn't played it yet as I am stuck at A3

[leaden wraith]

actually, every team of yours benefit from Ground theme, because your starting boost is Ground

if you dont buy a better theme, you will be forced to run a Ground type in every team to make your progress easier

did you buy see-all-scope at A1?

[mental raft]

Yes

[leaden wraith]

it's not recommended to purchase it, if you want to get most points possible

keep that in mind

[mental raft]

Yeah I know

[leaden wraith]

with the help of pomatools site, you can know the entire bonus roles of your seed

[mental raft]

Okay!
Then I will check that, thankyou

[leaden wraith]

the pins have many helpful resources and guides, in case you dont know

[mental raft]

Till now I am only able to score 2k to 3k in BRs so I thought this time I should try using the telescope, and I guess it was not so bad idea

[leaden wraith]

actually, it holds you back from getting more points

that's why we never recommend buying it

[mental raft]

It was the first time

[leaden wraith]

300 pts is pretty costly, especially for who can't score more than average to get 20 cake vounchers monthly

[mental raft]

I will remember that from next time

[leaden wraith]

[mental raft]

Okay! I will definitely go through the guides from now onwards to score as much as possible!

Again TYVM

[leaden wraith]

good luck

[formal gull]

poison CS Wallace ew

[stray ravine]

poison is always easy mode regardless of the region tho

[sudden hull]

support strike area one and im dying of cringe

im basically forced to save sstr for area 10

and 8 support areas

[carmine glade]

At least it’s support than like field or sprint

[wary kayak]

Janine hours?????

[gentle maple]

Support areas screams elaine

[mild notch]

got hoenn upgrade in my run

idk if i should keep it tbh

[hasty marlin]

{Fire weak pair} go boom

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-anime-power-sorcery-gif-17531449

basically anabel if you arrive boostless ^

tbh idk if that fight's even possible even if your starting boost is good for the fight, on a nospend. best bet would be tech/support role combo with like Champion theme maybe?

[static arch]

The 8x anything seeds are arguably all good, even field and sprint because it allows you to use them 3+ times in a row.

[sudden hull]

me when no mp:

[static arch]

The worst are the ones that rotate out 1 of the 2 previous each time because alot of the forces combos are almost nonexistant as dual roles anyway

[stark dawn]

Imo the worst are the ones with 4 of each role, but only 1 field/sprint

That means you get field or sprint on 7 stages

And you cant get a lot of points

The ones that rotate are fine unless they dont have field/sprint for the same reason, even worse since it means field or sprint on 8 whole stages but idk if those exist

[craggy helm]

Broooo first a bunch of supports then last week it was all tech and now it’s all striker is it possible to get a bunch of field/sprint?

[stark dawn]

Yes and it sucks

[carmine glade]

At least there’s like a third of units in the game that are strike and some have Rolex

[craggy helm]

SOBBING I’m only on area 3

Wait duh I don’t have an alolan boost oop

Still AAAAA

I hate ground types

[heavy fjord]

ah, the old modern battle challenge

[craggy helm]

Making me wanna pull for adaman before datamine

Wait no I’m dumb Hapu is alolan

WHY I AM I DOING LIKE NO DAMAGE

[heavy fjord]

you likely arent dealing with the stages gimmick

[karmic briar]

It looks like fall Roxanne battle challenge

So it’s more likely you need to trap the opponents to do damage

[craggy helm]

It's I need def down but I still should be doing more damage then what im doing...hapu is gridded for nuke

[sudden hull]

nah you dont need to trap

[heavy fjord]

doesnt look like thats a passive, however they do have Wise Entry x2 which is shutting down a lot of the damage on this

[sudden hull]

the issue is that he has a high chance of opening with a sure crit head smash

[heavy fjord]

Victor and Lance are both gonna be struggling with damage because of that

they also just have a really high HP total for the stage

[sudden hull]

i mean the last time i had that stage the issue was just living

[craggy helm]

I could throw SST red but again this is area 3 and I don't really wanna do that...

I legit have no idea what to do

[stiff flume]

Early stages can be taken down easily w/o going on type, just activate the theme buff with your most useless unit and follow battle tips
That team just look bad if they have WiseEntry x2

Also you can save Victor for later, you don't have to use both roles

He's a decent unit and in worst scenario a good meatshield for later fights

[craggy helm]

I'm not ANY damage, using useless mons will do NOTHING

[heavy fjord]

Hapu seems like a reasonable enough choice, id recommend just using physical oriented pairs over Lance and Victor

[stiff flume]

You're skipping the gimmick part, that's why

You can plan your strikers accordingly, just put a good physical striker if that's all you need

[craggy helm]

Ignoring the current team but these are the units I have that have boost that lowers def 💀

[stiff flume]

If he got only Wise Entry2 as only thing you don't need def debuffs, just a good physical striker
And Vigilance on your tanking unit (hapu looks OK-ish since she can raise def and get some hp regen if gridded)

[craggy helm]

She's gridded for nuke, my problem is im doing NO damage even with sync nuke

Like????? That’s sync damage…..

[stiff flume]

No crit, +2 atk, 30% multiplier, she's not really built for that
Just replace Victor/Lance with a decent physical striker

[stiff flume]

This

[craggy helm]

Any suggests on who I could replace them with? And I'm following her sync nuke grid which doesn't have atk refresh neither of her grids on the doc have atk refresh

[stiff flume]

Just forget Hapu as main damage source
She can tank fine enough with Vigilance and Healthy healing+extra stats nodes (on grid)
As for Lance/Victor replacement, just filter for Physical Strikers on your units
Take any decent EX striker (keeping your best for later stages if you got Strike role again)

As third unit you can use a flincher, or keeping Lance for potion spam

[craggy helm]

Telling me to just pick a EX striker doesn’t help when I have so many and I’m not sure if it’d be best to use them in this stage or not, some suggestions would be nice

Like I have so many and the worry about using one when I could’ve used it in another stage paralyzes me from making a decision

[stiff flume]

I have no idea what you have
Just post a simple pic