#Battle Rally

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jovial furnace
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Doing 2-3 itself reveals rest of it

tame forge
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Yeah it's a great resource for planning

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Monday gonna be fun

normal python
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I realized just now you can stack items

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I thought the effect is just one-use and one-time

oak jolt
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The jelly is guaranteed at stage 10?

tame forge
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The items aren't one use?

oak jolt
tame forge
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Huh

flint shell
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Heads up all, i’m gonna stream a battle rally sometime in a few hours. I’ll go through and explain my strategies as well, so if you wanna see how I’m constantly getting above 9k points, great opportunity

fathom yacht
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I’m getting above 8k too

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I probably could go higher than 8k on average but you don’t need to

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There’s no real benefit to it

elfin tendon
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I got above 8k points for the first time but I'm spending too much on items

tame forge
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Above 9k is basically having caked units and 2.0x boosts here and there no?

elfin tendon
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Do items stack?

fathom yacht
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Yeah pretty much

tame forge
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Yeah they stack

elfin tendon
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Like eg does 2x crit hit bonus give me x2 power

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Oh my god

fathom yacht
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I got 8k consistently with almost no double dip units

elfin tendon
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9k is like on average x3.0 bonus per stage

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P sure u need more than just strategy for that

fathom yacht
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Not really

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If you do Very hard with 4 roles per stage

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That’s 9500

elfin tendon
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Ye that's the point

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U need caked units too

fathom yacht
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If you do 3 that’s 8000

tame forge
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Isn't that x3 bonus?

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It's additive

fathom yacht
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Yeah 300+150(3)=750

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750*10+500 is 8k

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500 given at the start

tame forge
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I mean 4 roles = x3.0 on that one stage

fathom yacht
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Yes

elfin tendon
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Yes

dry ice
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you need 34K points monthly to get all the good rewards. PrycePain

tame forge
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Well at least the cakes are pretty accessible

hallow bolt
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Eh the cakes are priority

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Others are gravy

dry ice
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true

tame forge
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One free ex per month is still nice tho don't get me wrong

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Will definitely be chasing them too

hallow bolt
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Even the iGoldPowerUp I can get thru the general and regional tickets

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And I generally hoard those

tame forge
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I hoard and end up using quite a few on hse

hallow bolt
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I have like 2000 gen and a lot of the regional ones

dry ice
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i have 3K tickets rn

tame forge
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power ups, not tickets

dry ice
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3K tickets = 100 Gold PUs BarryPogChamp

hallow bolt
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You get power ups from those. I have every gen pool in those tickets rn

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I just save them to when they get updated

tame forge
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Same

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Drasna and olympia kokoOGpray

elfin tendon
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Also i just realized how bad my roster is with sprint bonuses PrycePain

normal python
elfin tendon
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Either that or 8.5k

tame forge
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Yeah depends on the amount of mondays

west abyss
dry ice
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same, speaking of which...

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do we have a drop table on the 2* feathers?

elfin tendon
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i had a battle rally attempt where it was sprint field bonus for stage 4, 9 and sprint strike stage 10, so I pretty much couldn't change NC rosa out of my team from stage 4 onwards since she was my only sprint role

west abyss
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There's not a collated list here that I'm aware of

tame forge
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I'm saving a cake for steven personally

elfin tendon
tame forge
elfin tendon
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She's someone i always use for fighting,and i still have a bunch of leftover vouchers and a lot of daily tickets if absolutely needed so i just went with it

ebon valve
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Work in Progress, but I believe I got all of them.

tame forge
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Cynthia is nice to have for rally cause of sprint role and max crit + everything else

ebon valve
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I just realized I only pinged you the text and not the image. godisdead

stark dawn
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lol

hallow bolt
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The Sages cheat sheet BarryPogChamp

ocean wren
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Wtf screw this game sometimes, the rules are "make me win" and no else, why is it breaking that

haughty knoll
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Grant gaming

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Totally not carried by Apple

rustic dagger
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Nah never

elfin tendon
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Nope just the normal Cserena numbers, carry on!

ocean wren
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Bro thus is area 5 and I'm forced into aura cynthia, dude this game doesn't understand how things work around here

tame forge
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Oak luffy_pog

ocean wren
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Are you actually kidding me now?!

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One sync and he one shots oak and sshilbert

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Like dude I'm not even kidding

tame forge
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What type/theme buff do you have?

ocean wren
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Weak to fire, tech and sprint

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But the theme boost is alola

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I'm basically screwed

tame forge
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Add an alola tech instead of oak

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If you have one to spare

ocean wren
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Literally nothing will work

tame forge
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Lodge lillie is okayge

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Use her for debuffing and shillbert for damage

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Feels like enough tbh

ocean wren
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Fuuuuu and there goes my future cynthia uses cause now tech and field

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Can rally just stop choosing field and/or sprint

tame forge
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Take the opportunity to have a look at the new pastebin added to the pin

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It tells you all the possible role combinations

ocean wren
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Fun fact it doesn't show me the pins anymore

tame forge
ocean wren
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Whatever update discord did takes away my ability to find the pins, specifically on these kinds of chats

tame forge
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Yeah discord been wacky recently

ocean wren
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I hate this game sometimes

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She is -5 with me at least +4 defense

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And one sync did this

normal python
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Oof, I got Anabel for Very Hard, unfortunately, tech units don't get role bonus

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Should I just say fuck it and use the Apple Cup?

cobalt furnace
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Isn’t it better to just go for Hard?

west abyss
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Yeah, you'll net better points on Hard w/out Cup

normal python
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My hard is Thorton and wasted NC Leaf on an early level WhitneySad

cobalt furnace
cobalt furnace
normal python
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I do still have the Pallet Town trio

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(Not Chase)

cobalt furnace
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Which one?

normal python
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NC Blue/SST Red/Ash

cobalt furnace
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I beat thorton vh earlier with 1/5 Ash/ 2|5NCBlue/Silver, but that was with decent boosts

west abyss
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What's the role bonus?

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And theme skill

normal python
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Unfortunately, my role bonus is Sprint/Striker

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I still have NC Rosa active

west abyss
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Is NC Blue cake'd by any chance?

cobalt furnace
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Then it should be easy unless you don’t have good items

normal python
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Unless you want me to on-type Thorton

cobalt furnace
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I’m guessing you don’t have ss mina?

normal python
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With the fire boost item

normal python
west abyss
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He's mentioning Mina because of the fairy boost

normal python
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Still no

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Does EXR-ing NC Blue to use him here justify wasting a striker cake on him?

ocean wren
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yes big time

sudden hull
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not really lol

cobalt furnace
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EXRing him here just means you get a few extra iGoldPowerUp monthly in return? Idt that’s worth it

sudden hull
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yeah

foggy hull
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I did that because i was a noob. But i like it, esp with SST Red. 2 AoE Rebuff + 2x Sync Bonus after his sync obliterates lots of stuffs

normal python
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And I have Lucy for normal

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Honestly, I feel like tech role bonus would be one of the best role bonuses for Area 10

dense latch
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Few more power cards is massive for me😂

tame forge
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It's not a great role on blue

normal python
cobalt furnace
tame forge
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I don't have ash but it's not like sst red struggles with sides at all

foggy hull
tame forge
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It's fine to invest in a unit you like

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I'll give paulo a cake eventually, when I'm done with the meta ones

normal python
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Honestly, I'm conflicted on who to do on my Area 10

foggy hull
normal python
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Thorton is Hard and Lucy is Normal

dense latch
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What boost you got

normal python
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Boost?

foggy hull
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I see.. how many boost u bought from the store?

cobalt furnace
normal python
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You mean my items

dense latch
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Elaine and NC leaf take fire and normal boost

normal python
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I don't even have Elaine

dense latch
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O wait

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Nvm striker

foggy hull
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U got Rei?

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Rei is Sprint/Strike

normal python
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I don't have either Hisui protags

foggy hull
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Then perhaps its applecup time?

cobalt furnace
dense latch
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Anabel is not worth it. You don't get enough Multipliers and you got no boosted dmg

normal python
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Fuck man, I'd rather cake NC Blue than use Apple Cup

foggy hull
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Oh

dense latch
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Hard and max points Multipliers no extra item

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That would be most points

foggy hull
normal python
dense latch
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So it's something like extra 400 for -500

foggy hull
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I see

normal python
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But I'm so conflicted, I'm gonna sleep now

dense latch
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No eusine?

normal python
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I'll probably chat a few more minutes

foggy hull
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Some zzz might help enlighten you on what to do

tame forge
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Wym it's a net loss though, don't you get 600 points back from using 3 1.5 boosts?

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It's not very effective ig

normal python
tame forge
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Still profit

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But yeah optimally you skip it

cobalt furnace
normal python
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600 - 500= 100
200 * 2= 400

tame forge
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I see

normal python
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You only do Apple Cup if you're really desperate or as I said, if you have a full team of 2x bonus role units

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Ok, see you all later

tame forge
fathom yacht
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T Red is the one who wants rebuff on all enemies

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But outside that one unit it does absolutely nothing except deny Blue an actually good role for Rally Points

flint shell
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Alright it's time

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If you wanna come watch me do my last rally run, starting up steam now

mild notch
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is the HP and MP recovery for every pair in your roster? or just the team u have active?

cobalt furnace
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There is no roster, if you’ve stopped using a pair then you can’t use them again

mild notch
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oh i see

dense latch
fathom yacht
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Also nice use of a strike cake

dense latch
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Buwhaha I'm just talking smack I didn't Rolex my nc blue

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But it did help with getting higher str on marnie

karmic briar
fathom yacht
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I really wish Blue had a not shit role on the cake though

karmic briar
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I like his Rolex a lot actually

fathom yacht
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At least for Rally

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He’s unusable early on

karmic briar
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Even if in my priority list striker cake are firstly suited for tech innate units

dense latch
fathom yacht
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Support Support pair SophoKEK

karmic briar
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And after, supports with aoe sync passive

fathom yacht
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That’s WILD

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4 Sync boosts on the sync

karmic briar
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Like ssroxie is a Rolex priority

fathom yacht
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I severely misjudged Roxie and Piers

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What’s Roxie’s role

dense latch
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Tech striker

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Poison ss steven

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With its own zone

fathom yacht
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I guess I didn’t need Roxie that much because I poison stall anyway

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But Piers or Hau i need badly

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It’s like

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That, then a good Ground pair, then a good Bug support

dense latch
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Just sounds like you need a new job too. That’s Bicio’s advice for me

naive tendon
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anyone have tips for this stage? i have 8 unova upgrades and the bonus is striker/sprint (but i have no more sprints)

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i was thinking maybe putting pinch push and the status condition heal nodes on ash?

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or maybe nuke second on hilda?

dense latch
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Just put nc blue in and call it a day lol

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There is no gauge in that team

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If you cake nc blue you get the multiplierTabithaHehe

ebon valve
nimble holly
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Like nc leaf set sun and immune

fathom yacht
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I put Blue Leaf Morty, and gave Morty status heal on potions, and basically told Lucy to get bent ☠️

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Nice poison

nimble holly
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Lol prob you now when you set sun morty leaf have immune status when sun

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No need nothing else

naive tendon
dense latch
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Just do hard it’s not that much diff in points for the effort/resource trade off

karmic briar
ebon valve
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you can just do Hard if VH is too difficult (for Area 10)

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otherwise succumb to the AppleCup

cobalt furnace
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Scammle cup

reef magnet
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abble juce

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I'm surprised and happy I was able to beat all 4 of my UBs without it yesterday, but I almost would have needed it for Anabel

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Palmer got destroyed, Anabel, Darach was easy with an off-type team and Lucy was there

hasty marlin
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For the purposes of this mode, is caking ncblue worth considering for stage boosts? Or does Strike based combos tend to have good enough tanks for a UB?

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Like if it’s strike/field

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That’s the main combination that I’m worried about having a tank for atm

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Or does Riley seem like he’s gonna be bulky enough to tank stuff prob? If I don’t have good enough strike ones already

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(I assume gladion isn’t gonna be big on bulk)

dense latch
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Sounds like a decision you can delay till the problem arise

worthy tusk
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It's always good to get apple cup right?

fresh holly
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No

hasty marlin
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I won’t have a strike cake till after anni anyways, I’m just curious of who I’d tank with out of those roles for most part.

hasty marlin
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Wrong reply sorry

fresh holly
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floor 10 - has no set answer

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if you have a ton of multipliers sometimes the cup can be a solution

hasty marlin
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Apple cup is basically a “I FUCKED UP” button

fresh holly
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depends on what the "hard mission vs VH" etc...

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F'd up or got very unlucky

reef magnet
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only get the Apple Cup if you absolutely need it to beat the stage, even then you might be better off doing Hard if you can still hit all bonuses

hasty marlin
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It’s better to ignore bonuses than cup it

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In like 9/10 scenarios

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And with general boosts the hard and normal stages should hit like a wet noodle to begin with

fresh holly
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For example in my runs I didn't purchase any items resulting in just a single crappy bonus. I found annabell was actually not doable even with optimal units you see used for hard mode

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So that made the Cup / any unit I wanted for VH

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the optimal solution

hasty marlin
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That’s not worth

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(Assuming no cakes)

fresh holly
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True for most of the time

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but like I said there are special occasions where it's not actually clearable on hard mode

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while using multipliers

hasty marlin
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You’d need all slots to be caked matching both I think to even consider it. And then it’s like how are you not answering the gimmick

fresh holly
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so you end up with a 200-300 vs 400-500

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I'm just saying there is no correction solution all the time for F10

reef magnet
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tbh based on some of the bonus points I've seen, it looks like in a few months some of us might wind up with a surplus of points, so if you aren't in dire need of a ton of points you could probably just buy the Cup anyway if you want to get it over with quickly. Especially once we get more Sprint/Field pairs so those bonus points are more easy to get. IMO the feathers will never be worth taking.

fresh holly
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You just reminded me

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what are the stats on the feather 2s?

hasty marlin
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It’s better to drop 0.5-1.5x of mult or than to cup and you’ll prob be fine with a 250 item usually then

fresh holly
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anyone have that info

hasty marlin
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That’s it

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Not worth

reef magnet
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I think Absol posted a pastebin for them

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orange still seems to be MIA

flint shell
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Another 9,150 run, even with doing the UB on Hard

fresh holly
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Are you getting lucky rounds or just flat

reef magnet
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what bonuses are you getting

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I didn't get a single lucky round last night CryingBoy

flint shell
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I got a single lucky round

fresh holly
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O_O

flint shell
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On round 9 pika_pray

fresh holly
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that's busted

worthy tusk
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Is it doable to clear without it?

flint shell
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Yes

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Very doable

reef magnet
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absolutely

flint shell
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Worst case scenario, do the stage on hard, save the points

reef magnet
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I beat Darach really easily

flint shell
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I just swept Hard Palmer without taking a single hit

hasty marlin
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Yes, I usually play with 300-400% stats and 200-300% moves from earlier stages myself mostly cause I don’t have dupes on some of my op units

flint shell
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Oh and I did it without my initial bonus

hasty marlin
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You can get away with lower multis the stronger your box is for ubs

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Note I always take vh fights no matter what

reef magnet
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Was my first fight and I had stacked 4 or 5 Fighting Damage buffs beforehand, plus two or three for Kanto (hence Bruno). Never did a UB before so I didn’t know what to expect especially with the way people talked about Palmer’s fight. Still came out with above average points.

hasty marlin
reef magnet
hasty marlin
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I think the only combo I’ll be screwed on playing fully into after this month for ubs is strike+field, and that’s mostly cause that combo doesn’t have much tanks to work with

Edit: typo

flint shell
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Ouch using 300 on the scope

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Just use what I like to call in game data

reef magnet
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this was before the Sets were made known

hasty marlin
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This chart from #916852044692856834 is prob gonna save me from most future scopes

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Prob only gonna scope on certain ones with a potentially disaster area 10 now

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I did all five my day one clears with scope tho

reef magnet
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they really need to start making sprint and field more available after this month, I saw a lot of people struggling due to the lack of them

hasty marlin
reef magnet
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heck I have most of them and I still struggled often

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Sorta, but Riley and Victor are both still limited

hasty marlin
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Hoping anni adds field sprint bp pairs

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As in 5.0

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Cause we need them with this mode

reef magnet
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anyone who joins after they come but gets to the point they can do BR are gonan struggle badly

hasty marlin
reef magnet
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yeah

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IMO I think the Half Anni pairs are gonna be Field and/or Sprint

hasty marlin
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Gladion coming at start of runup makes me think we might have a duo banner anni with field sprint

reef magnet
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IMO it'll be Sada and Turo who I can see being Field with Sprint role due to the way the Raidon abilities work in the games

hasty marlin
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(If it’s bike duo for anni I’ll be surprised if they aren’t those.)

reef magnet
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Field for the ability, Sprint EX because bikes go vroom vroom

hasty marlin
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Fighting weak in final cs week makes that possible

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Praying for a skip anni instead for my gems tho

reef magnet
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yup, and Elec weak the previous week + later week pairs usually being reserved for the CS week after also doesn't rule out Turo

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I have to pull Gladion and LuSSamine, I'm screwed regardless

hasty marlin
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I have to pull gladion. And I am entering next mine with slightly below pity

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As a result

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If I get shafted

reef magnet
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I'll have 2 pities after I get Gladion if I pity, LuSSa will be dailies until I'm forced to pull her

hasty marlin
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I already own lussa and anni Lillie thankfully

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Got Lillie on release and lussa on first rerun

reef magnet
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Gladion will get a cake to help with BR, LuSSa I probably won't cake since I might not use her all that much

hasty marlin
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I’m gonna cake lussa and gladion

dense latch
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So we are thinking it’s not random it’s sets?

hasty marlin
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Having a strike support that isn’t ss Serena I can throw away on stages for 2.0x is nice

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Rather save Zygarde for later stages

reef magnet
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I gave a cake to NCLeaf and am gonna save my other vouchers and cakes for a bit

hasty marlin
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I already shoved my vouchers into sprint cause I had to cake ncrosa for this mode and gladion means a third sprint cake in just over a month

reef magnet
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she and Petrel will at least give me options for non-Strike/Tech fights so I hopefully won't need to DPS with 1/5 Fall Allister again PrycePain

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I only used 7 of my vouchers for the Support cake, just gonna save the other 13 and my coins for March update

hasty marlin
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As I said before the main set I’m scared of now is strike field cause I’m gonna be like “WHO THE FUCK DO I TANK WITH YOU” till I cake ncblue and even then I can’t spend him before final stage

reef magnet
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I think in March we'll be due for full cakes again from Daily BP fight

hasty marlin
mild notch
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okay why does Leon feel so hard all of a sudden

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i'm in area 5 and my SS diantha barely does any damage

reef magnet
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he might have a gimmick you aren't seeing

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I had to redo some fights because they needed field effects or something

mild notch
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maybe his spdef and def needs both debuffs ig

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i'm only using def debuffs atm

fresh holly
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dreadnaw battle was pretty sick

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seemed very strong early

flint shell
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…so I had a thought

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I understand now

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Why skill gear exists the way it does

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This mode

reef magnet
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yeah, I think they announced this mode back in Sept

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and we got Skill Gear in Oct

mild notch
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Okay i think leon needs poison

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Gonna test tomorrow

reef magnet
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misread that as Prison and was like damn what did he do

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I think there's a list of all the battles in the pins

stray ravine
reef magnet
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you'll have to be more specific

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the BT outfit is good

stray ravine
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and that's the end of it lol, the other outfits are not it

reef magnet
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his SS is very popular

mild notch
dry ice
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Someone posted this on my reddit post SophoKEK

hallow bolt
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Fun. I like fun. I like press button go brrr BlueYea

worthy tusk
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Me too

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It's only a small loss I figure

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Or a small gain

worthy tusk
glass patrol
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And once I get a comfortable rally point buffer I’ll prolly do apple cup things

tame forge
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It is pretty fun tbh

zealous jay
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What's the loss in using the Apple Cup?

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Just 500 points?

glass patrol
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Ye

zealous jay
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Well I already missed out on 20 Role Coin Tickets yesterday anyway.

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So what really is there to miss out on now?

quaint star
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I suppose you can read what's posted to have an idea how this mode work before starting it.

quaint star
desert venture
# flint shell This mode

I know this is late but can you elaborate? I have no clue what skill gears have to do with this mode other than just to provide items to pad out the Rally shop

reef magnet
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this is the sept (late august) dev letter

glass patrol
reef magnet
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and this is the late Sept one, which has a lil more detail about it

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so it tracks with big new content being added 6 months after annoucement, notice the Photo feature in the previous one

quaint star
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Outside of that dire 1 day cycle, this mode is definitely fun. So far no gamebreaking glitch

zealous jay
zealous jay
quaint star
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Very Hard before area 10 is doable as long as you know what you are doing. Like, making use of the starting boost and stack it

reef magnet
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if my theme is good I'll try to have at least 2 stacks of it, if not then I'm always on the lookout for something better

quaint star
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Most new players don't know it, but it's crucial to have a pair that shares the theme with the boost so you get hard stats

reef magnet
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tho usually the final shop update will have a type boost for the VH fight

desert venture
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I don’t think it’s a huge deal, though

quaint star
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I might be overstacking at 6-7 stacks since even area 9 will be dealing 2 digit damage SeleneLul

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All in all, it's not as hair pulling as High Score

urban ledge
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Nothing wrong with stacking boosts to have an easier time haha

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I try to make do with 3-4 stacks

polar fable
quaint star
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I suppose I will try that, with just 3-4 stacks

polar fable
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U need 8.5k runs to get all the coins + PUs so

reef magnet
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its hard to do without more available sprint and field pairs tho

quaint star
desert venture
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I personally wasn’t willing to find out the hard way yesterday

heavy fjord
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you keep the medals, but not getting the extra month worth of cake coins kinda sucks

quaint star
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I don't mind 5star power up too much

reef magnet
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use the 5star power-ups to craft more skill gear to carry you

polar fable
worthy tusk
polar fable
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Yeah thats the first mention of it

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Iirc everything mentioned in past dev letters we’ve gotten except that and stuff for next month which includes that

worthy tusk
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I look forward to getting more energy for grids.

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Finally I can use my orbs before I hit max.....again at 999,999

reef magnet
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same

zealous jay
reef magnet
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I'm curious how we'll unlock the extra energy though, and if they try to dripfeed it to individual pairs again while we're still waiting on loads of EXs, EX roles and PoMa Day grids (which are shared with PFs) I might be a lil annoyed

zealous jay
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I'm hoping it's a universal update.

heavy fjord
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we will just need to see

zealous jay
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Then again, I'm also hoping for 120 Extra Energy.

glass patrol
reef magnet
#

yes

heavy fjord
#

yes

glass patrol
#

That’s wild

heavy fjord
#

it was in the last dev letter

glass patrol
#

I remember when someone said it would break the balance of the game

dry ice
zealous jay
#

And the ability to stock & switch Lucky Skills.

glass patrol
#

Uehehehe

#

HOLY FUCKING SHIT YES

#

WOOOOOOOOOOOKO

#

NGDXKGNEOA EKSNBBJKFNXKKVD NO W

heavy fjord
glass patrol
#

ahem

reef magnet
#

we? I've seen more agreeing to about 10 energy

glass patrol
#

But also

#

That fixes Riley right

reef magnet
#

even 5 would help a lot of grids tho

heavy fjord
#

im saying 20 is the absolute maximum

zealous jay
#

I'm hoping for 120 extra Energy because I'm shooting for the stars.

heavy fjord
zealous jay
#

Cuz I want to.

dry ice
reef magnet
#

all the grids I saw ppl posting were for +10 energy expansions

heavy fjord
#

doesnt mean everyone thinks 20 is actually gonna happen

#

i took part in that, i dont think it will

zealous jay
#

I'll be happy with 60 at minimum.

heavy fjord
#

its just a cool hypothetical

dry ice
#

I'm not saying it would, i don't think it will, but it's nice to think if it were

glass patrol
#

Ncleaf will be nice

#

Ncred can get every boost at once maybe

heavy fjord
#

my assumption is 5 more energy if its a universal upgrade

glass patrol
#

I think it’s basically useless for ncblue

heavy fjord
#

just straight up "every character gets this"

severe bronze
heavy fjord
#

if it has to be unlocked somehow then maybe itll be more

glass patrol
#

Selene maybe get all her nuke tiles

#

Because that matters

zealous jay
#

Cuz I'm greedy like that.

heavy fjord
reef magnet
#

we may be getting off-topic tho

glass patrol
#

The current tiles I want are synchro heal snicker and snarl

zealous jay
#

Well, I know I'd love extra energy for NC-Bede for Rally.

#

So he can sustain himself.

dry ice
#

gonna use the extra energy on SS Steven immediately

glass patrol
#

That’s about all I want for ncblue

zealous jay
#

The way I have him set up relies heavily on Freeze.

heavy fjord
#

lucas is my first target

glass patrol
#

The other tiles I’m thinking of are his nuker mode tiles

#

Basically everything else is redundant

severe bronze
glass patrol
#

No

#

That’s wut I mean

#

It’s not useful for him

#

He’s too good

severe bronze
#

elaine is really gonna benefit from this extra energy

glass patrol
#

Ncrosa prolly likes it

heavy fjord
#

being able to grab stoic and force field with her potion tiles feels like itd be really nice for rally...

stiff flume
glass patrol
#

No they solo with 4/5 units

severe bronze
#

i just ditch them after one use

heavy fjord
#

i do

glass patrol
#

If your not zooming

severe bronze
stiff flume
heavy fjord
#

yes but this is the battle rally thread

glass patrol
#

I guess

#

But I don’t think extra energy matters for rally

#

You’re really op in this mode

severe bronze
#

well that depends on how many buff you take

glass patrol
#

I mean if you take less than 4 buffs that’s like, what did you expect

urban ledge
#

I still haven’t seen Crit:boost

glass patrol
#

And you’re prolly earning less

urban ledge
#

And man that sounds amazing lol

severe bronze
#

if you’re taking no boost and against palmer without type advantage you’re basically doomed TabithaHehe

heavy fjord
#

yeah i know right

glass patrol
#

Like I said that’s kinda on you

dry ice
#

so question, what unit has Infinite Critical shield?

#

i need to know for Palmer

glass patrol
#

Lyra

#

Vlyra

#

Infinite rain

urban ledge
#

She does?

#

Oh VLyra

dry ice
#

Piercing Blows go through passives tho

urban ledge
#

Wait rain stops Crit?

glass patrol
#

Or just run vigilance you cowards

dry ice
#

I need crit shield Specifically

glass patrol
#

Oh you can’t vigilance it?

heavy fjord
#

she has a passive

reef magnet
#

doesn't Jasmine also have it

glass patrol
#

Spooky

heavy fjord
#

he has piercing blows

glass patrol
#

Yis jasmine

dry ice
#

Palmer has Piercing Blows

heavy fjord
#

you cant passive it

urban ledge
#

You can buy Crit Shield from the shop haha

glass patrol
#

That’s probably the best option

dry ice
#

Ok, but what units have Crit shield?

#

I'm thinking on when he becomes a UB

reef magnet
#

I had no issues with Palmer

glass patrol
#

Ssmina once

heavy fjord
#

Anabel has it but idk if she has any mpr

severe bronze
#

you should really presync him

heavy fjord
#

outside of her gmax move

glass patrol
#

Jasmine

zealous jay
#

And now I switched to Normal stages.

glass patrol
#

Sync move on fall Caitlin

heavy fjord
#

i think the play is just

glass patrol
#

Yeah that’s about it

dry ice
#

hmmm

glass patrol
#

Crit shield is very uncommon

heavy fjord
#

you kill him fast

zealous jay
#

Back to Hard.

dry ice
#

that's going to be rough for Palmer then

glass patrol
severe bronze
glass patrol
#

Post sync or bust in this house

heavy fjord
#

sprint characters seem like the play for palmer as an UB

severe bronze
#

the game literally told you to presync palmer

glass patrol
#

They should tone down his offensive stats

severe bronze
glass patrol
#

If he becomes a ub

heavy fjord
dry ice
#

he will

reef magnet
severe bronze
#

theres a reason why he doesnt have endurance like other ultimate battle

stiff flume
reef magnet
#

it was my first run so I was testing stuff out

glass patrol
#

Also does he have unflappable

heavy fjord
#

yes

glass patrol
#

If he does that’s cringe

severe bronze
#

yes

glass patrol
#

Cringe

dry ice
tiny pulsar
#

Can I just retire here

severe bronze
#

and antifreeze

heavy fjord
#

the entire enemy side does

severe bronze
#

and antisleep

heavy fjord
#

you cant delay, you cant run

#

only kill him fast

glass patrol
#

They need to stop putting anti interference

quaint star
#

Is there any universal grid for 3/5 NC Rosa? I might as well just get her ready along with a cake

severe bronze
#

thats why riley is free

quaint star
severe bronze
#

even with riley its still tough

heavy fjord
#

the nice thing about the fight is that they barely attack until sync

#

so you can focus on full offense

dry ice
#

thankfully crit shield can bypass Palmer sync and Max move

heavy fjord
#

thats something

severe bronze
#

you need a huge tech nuke for him, its basically nc hop’s stage

dry ice
#

that's what i would want that for

quaint star
#

I just hope Riley is at least better than Korrina-rio, but that shouldn't be hard

heavy fjord
#

i think you want caked SSA and NC Hop for it tbh

stiff flume
glass patrol
#

Rei is kinda useless

#

Well I’m exaggerating

#

But still

heavy fjord
#

he has a good sync nuke still

glass patrol
#

It’s mean

heavy fjord
#

but no flinching allowed does kinda suck

severe bronze
#

rei is good to clear sides

#

but yeah no flinch

#

also he keeps buffing his own defense thanks to swagbag 9

glass patrol
#

I guess that’s what rei is for

static arch
#

So I heard thr role requirements are all unique once you know first 2 stages. So I can buy to see next one then just look up the rest?

glass patrol
#

Or chop

heavy fjord
#

unless im misunderstanding what thats meant to mean, but ive definitely had repeating combos past round 2

quaint star
#

Rei feels like a balanced NC Marnie if that makes any sense

#

Akari on the other hand is solid

stiff flume
#

At worst some.are determined by just clearing the first

glass patrol
#

And he’s still very strong because he has big numbers

#

And he effectively can reduce a sync counter multiple times

#

Due to kit

quaint star
#

Does that involve using TM tho?

glass patrol
#

Why are we talking about tms

quaint star
#

Battle Rally is all about conserving MPs?

stiff flume
heavy fjord
#

he gets -1 on entry as well as 4 attack and 3 crit

#

so he is very good for this

glass patrol
#

I have never actually needed to conserve mp

#

But even so they’re both the same

#

His nuke is smaller yes but when going through this game mode you should be getting boosts

stiff flume
#

I dragged Rei+ssaCynthia for 3 stages so the mpr were a big point

glass patrol
#

And he kills with any decent amount

severe bronze
#

im only saving mp if im using top tier units in higher round TabithaHehe

#

like from round 8 and above

quaint star
#

I enjoy the damage with Akari without spending a single point in TM

#

But that's just me

glass patrol
#

Rei doesn’t spend tm

severe bronze
#

field is really good in this mode tbh

glass patrol
#

I never touched it

severe bronze
#

mix red akari vgiovanni cnate

quaint star
#

Fair enough. Maybe I need to use Rei more

severe bronze
glass patrol
#

They literally do the same thing on entry

heavy fjord
#

reis tm is uh

stiff flume
heavy fjord
#

speed, sync accel, seun, pmun

glass patrol
#

His tm increases his speed super effective and -1 sync

heavy fjord
#

so nothing too important

glass patrol
#

But like who cares just triple arrows

severe bronze
#

save for bmove

quaint star
#

Sprint + Field, my behated SophoKEK

#

Can we tell what will be the area 10 boss from the set or it's still random?

urban ledge
worthy tusk
glass patrol
#

It should be until they release units with a Role Rolex combo like that

worthy tusk
#

And the fact that pool is so small isn't helpful

quaint star
#

I'd hate to rng into that set

worthy tusk
#

Oh gosh at that point just retire and cut your losses

true zealot
#

Is it possible to beat the 10th level with no items

#

Ive made it this far but its straight up the anabel extreme battle and i havent even beaten that normally

#

I didnt wanna spend points but its really impossible to max points with no items

desert venture
#

you mean the consumable items or all rally shop items?

true zealot
#

Anything

#

I havent spent a single point up until now

desert venture
#

it could theoretically be possible if you have the BEST possible units saved up but lol if you dislike yourself enough to try (assuming you’re sticking to “Very Hard” difficulty)

true zealot
#

Should i just buy the 500 point super item thar gives me every type of buff ever

stray ravine
#

no

#

if you are not able to beat her normally, it's not gonna be different here

#

you can choose to do the Hard battle instead

true zealot
#

I mean ive gotten close with nc blue + nc red cheese strats

desert venture
#

Getting the Apple Cup + “Very Hard” difficulty is less points than just “Hard” assuming point multis are the same (for ALL reward multipliers, assuming Hard at 1x gives you 200 points)

true zealot
#

I tried just hard too lol i cant beat suicune

#

Im stuck with striker/tech and i need to run one villain

#

Striker/tech is hard for this i need a support

thick mauve
#

You also don’t have to min-max everything.
A decent players can get enough points for the cake tickets, and a good player with invested ex role can get all 5*PU too. You’ll have spare medals so buying a few items is fine next time unless you want to challenge yourself

somber prawn
#

tickets replenish once a week right?

true zealot
#

Oh wait theres a limit to the items you can buy?

#

I thought i could buy as many role cake coins as i could afford

#

Thats a little lame

hallow bolt
#

Of course there’s a limit lol

true zealot
#

I thought itd be if you are good enough you could get unlimited role cakes

#

Only whales could max out points anyway

hallow bolt
#

Nah, it’s still a new feature, they are drip feeding it more

#

The other stuff is whatever, the role cake and the powerups are most important

true zealot
#

Right

#

Also i didnt realize the buffs you buy in the store last the entire rally

#

There really is no reason to minmax damn

lost cliff
#

Not all of them do

#

Usually the food items are consumed after one battle

#

Anything non-food sticks permanently

cobalt furnace
true zealot
#

And they stack too right

#

Like if have main character as a boost and buy another boost for main character

#

It goes to 200?

cobalt furnace
#

Yup

worthy tusk
#

Yeah it gets super broken eventually

#

A 1000% stat could be possible....but coupled with more boosts you can exceed even that

split canopy
#

Got a pretty big shock seeing ult anabel

cobalt furnace
#

Just battle the hard mode battle instead, should be easy

split canopy
#

Likely i would do so next run.

I have defeated Ult Anabel, but i am mentally not prepared this time. 😂

undone fractal
#

who is chop

worthy tusk
#

Champion hop

#

He has galarian zapdos

split canopy
#

Definitely need apple cup to cheese scrape anabel.

quaint star
#

cHOP SeleneLul

undone fractal
#

oh

#

now i want ello as a champ so we can call him cello

simple frost
#

cHop with Strike EX Role. :>

true zealot
#

I ended up buying the apple cup to get it over with and still ended with like 7300 points

#

Yeah chop with strike would be great and marnie would love sprint

timid hound
#

This mode making me use pairs I've never used before like Cheren or Tate

eternal nebula
#

See-All-Scope item worth to buy?

timid hound
#

I love it

stiff flume
ebon valve
#

I can tell you what your roles are, if you give me the set of stages you did.

eternal nebula
#

Entered the rally, so I’m at stage 1

timid hound
#

You can always just open the master list and cross reference it as you progress

eternal nebula
#

It’s the curiosity for me to know what stage 10 would be

timid hound
#

That's easy to find out

ebon valve
#

Opponents are going to be random. But I can tell you the roles.

#

What roles are in stage 1?

eternal nebula
#

Support and field

timid hound
#

You should do up tp stage 2 or 3

eternal nebula
#

Are the roles not random?

timid hound
#

There are overlaps

hollow isle
#

Sages

timid hound
eternal nebula
#

Interesting

#

I would like to read more as a document lol

timid hound
#

Guess I'll take an absolute L since stage 10 is field lol

stiff flume
ebon valve
eternal nebula
#

I’ll go ahead and do stage 1

timid hound
#

Am I petty enough to burn a role cake for some measly points

hollow isle
#

no more need to use the pastebin

stiff flume
#

So niiiiice

ebon valve
#

oh

#

mine hasn't updated

hollow isle
#

it'll happen

ebon valve
#

what is the this selection?

#

I mean why did it populate darkened?

stiff flume
#

Its like when you clear those
You can keep track

hollow isle
#

to help you on tracking where you are haha

#

just click Area 1

forest tendon
#

is there a place to see the battles in BR that are not in CS?

ebon valve
#

How is the LA viewer going btw? You've been working on it for a few years now, ya?

hollow isle
#

I haven't done anything on that

#

lol

ebon valve
hollow isle
#

is the thing I want to do

#

but I have no time

hasty marlin
hollow isle
#

I can add small features like this, but not full complex ones haha

ebon valve
hollow isle
#

I gotta live from something haha

ebon valve
#

Wouldn't reusing the Champion Stadium section save you a lot of time?

hollow isle
#

nope

#

they use different stuff sadly

hasty marlin
urban ledge
hasty marlin
hollow isle
#

don't mind it, is just about stuff for my app, but I have no time to invest on it haha

ebon valve
#

I'd honestly just be happy if it was just the passive skills list and maybe their moves. Stats aren't too important.

stiff flume
#

The doc is fine for that eventually

fast linden
#

Do the buffs stack? Like if i get 2 defensd downs power up does it go to 200% power or stay at 100%

stiff flume
#

Yes

hasty marlin
fast linden
#

Very cool, ty

ebon valve
stiff flume
#

Need google stuff

hasty marlin
#

I have the app but I don’t know how to get it to load stuff clicked from discord app if even possible. Haven’t messed with the mobile sheets app much

stiff flume
#

Eh it's a preference settings on android phones, but I've seen troubles with ios and even chromebooks
You can probably google abt it to find workarounds
Web view is always bad

ebon valve
#

what stage?

eternal nebula
#

@ebon valve I got strike tech stage Two

eternal nebula
eternal nebula
ebon valve
#

yes.

placid depot
ebon valve
timid hound
#

Whenever I see negative status change, does that basically mean anything from status to interference to rebuffs?

cobalt furnace
#

(Besides negative stat buffs)

timid hound
#

I see, so poison and the like won't count

#

Thanks

ebon valve
#

#1092823068256251945

cobalt furnace
#

You can find the list of the status changes you have in the filter section (but it only looks at moves, not passives)
Pretty easy to tell which are positive and which are negative

#

There’s also a list of status changes in the ingame tips section (talk to TristaShocked and ask for tips)

oblique breach
#

What are the best items to get?

cobalt furnace
# oblique breach What are the best items to get?

The one that boosts your entire team’s stats by 100% when a single sync pair has a certain theme skill (provided the theme skill is something you have a decent amount of)
It stacks so if you buy it multiple times, your stats go crazy

urban ledge
#

Crit:Boost is also strong as heck

#

(Not that I’ve ever seen it in shops lol)

oblique breach
#

What should I buy

ebon valve
#

the alola boost, if you have a good alola roster

oblique breach
#

Double Alola then

oblique breach
cobalt furnace
urban ledge
#

I think he means buying two Alola boosts

cobalt furnace
#

Ah nvm then

timid hound
#

Got the trial giver boost which made me worried, then realized I had a good chunk of them

#

BP Ace was a lifesaver for Argenta thanks to Confuse Ray

cobalt furnace
#

Always nice when a pair you rarely use turns out to be a lifesaver CalemRelieved

timid hound
#

That's the beauty of this mode

normal python
#

Waking up, I'm still not sure what to do on my Area 10

quaint star
#

🍎

normal python
#

I probably got the worst luck on Area 10 and not get tech as a role bonus

#

Honestly, fuck it, I have 13 strike cake coins, so might as well just EX NC Blue

#

And I still haven't exchanged my remaining 13 cake coin vouchers

normal python
#

Good enough

urban ledge
#

What item did you get?

normal python
#

You mean what item I used? I used Fire Moves Up

urban ledge
#

Huh

forest tendon
#

man, Battle Rally really makes it plain that Field and Sprint units are lacking. Any time I see those as the bonuses my heart sinks a little

#

how do people end up with over 7k points? I'm stuck in the low-mid 6000s. is there a "best strategy" for this mode yet? 😄

timid hound
#

If you do all VH + minimum x2.50 multiplier on all stages, that's 7.5k points

#

Assuming you spend maximum 500 on shop that's a clean 7000

urban ledge
#

Check the pins for hints

timid hound
#

That feeling when you have a special attacker and then you see wise entry x2 flash before your eyes

flint shell
#

When that

surreal oasis
#

What a team it could be… and grass-weak vh stage, sadge no sleepers of strike or field ones ;C

urban ledge
#

Nothing hurts like realizing you wasted a team of full bonuses haha

timid hound
#

A relatable feeling

#

Up against Thorton and I squandered my NCLeaf early oops

#

Okay Serena you're up

#

Sleep chain go chierurumble

#

Oh wait it has nullification doesn't it

#

Overheat go chierurumble

urban ledge
#

… woah holy crap I didn’t notice the bug in #game-announcements

brisk zealot
#

Surely that warrants apologems

heavy fjord
#

youd think

timid hound
#

Why is SSLyra's attack move physical but sync move special?

placid depot
#

mixed attackers be like

molten ice
#

Best I could get, i tried the last stage without the apple cup but I just couldn't do it

timid hound
#

7.3k is a respectable takeaway

#

VH Thorton is a menace

normal python
timid hound
#

I had to sacrifice a role bonus slot for NC Rosa because I don't have any Tech/Field that could tank it lol

#

Probably could have done it if I didn't throw NCLeaf or aN early like a bumbling fool

normal python
#

Me too

civic harbor
#

I dont really understand the rewards i will get from batttle rally

forest tendon
#

after you complete the rally, your unused points become medals which you can spend for vouchers and other items in the store

#

are the region upgrades generally worth getting? I got Hoenn as my upgrade that will keep repeating, and I wonder if that's worth getting. I have a decent number of hoenn units so can probably squeeze one into most teams

civic harbor
#

is there a conversion rate

#

and what items can i bye

#

the important ones

forest tendon
#

just look in the shop. 1200 medals to get one roll cake coin voucher

civic harbor
#

and i keep hearing smth about apple cup or smth

#

conversion rate?

oak jolt
timid hound
civic harbor
#

mine is dragon

timid hound
#

If your Hoenn roster is wide and varied then I'd stack it personally

#

Mine is Champion

civic harbor
forest tendon
#

Oops, mine is Unova.

civic harbor
#

im stuck at stage 3 supur hard

oak jolt
#

I guess is worth stacking it, otherwise you will have trouble getting a decent boost from random boosts

rustic dagger
#

it stacks

civic harbor
#

My dragon roster

rustic dagger
#

hmm

oak jolt
#

Starting boost is sold everytime, so is more reliable

rustic dagger
#

id advise trying to use a dragon type at all times due to the passive boost

civic harbor
#

Whats the boost again?

rustic dagger
#

click on it in the shop

civic harbor
#

My nc blue is surprisingly squishy

rustic dagger
#

the boost helps with that a lot

oak jolt
#

The boost is 100% increase to all your stats (besides speed and HP)

#

If you get the boost 4 times is like getting the 5x stat buff regional boost of extreme battles

civic harbor
#

i completed the battle raelly

#

but

#

i can

#

i cant

#

find the sop

#

shop

rustic dagger
#

its in the general area for all other shops

drowsy crescent
#

Hi there, who do you think should get my ex role support cake - Zerena 3/5, NC Serena 3/5, NC Leaf 3/5, Piers 1/5?

rustic dagger
#

zerena is a good choice since she wants to mega, leaf brings sun to the field with sync so cant really dispute her want for it either. piers being 1/5 takes him out of the run for who should get it imo

#

its down to whoever u like using the most imo

valid turtle
#

does this stack if i keep buying it? thinkrem

#

or is always just 100%

leaden wraith
#

It does stack

summer ingot
#

How many battle passes can you keep before you don't get a new one next week?

timid hound
#

I don't think there's a limit for how many passes you can hold if that is what you're asking

open summit
#

they just will go to the present box if you have over 5 i believe

#

(they delete themselves in there after a month so)

timid hound
#

Oh so there is, how scary

#

Well you can always use one up and hold it in limbo until you can finish or retire from that rally

open summit
#

5 inventory + 4 present box before they start getting deleted + 1 in limbo

#

so 10 at once

#

a problem with this approach is that they'll potentially be giving out these passes during events, AND the rally shop resets monthly

#

meaning if you do all of em at once and give like 50 trillion tickets

#

you can only get 20 roll cake coins until next month

vagrant moon
#

you're overthinking

#

you only need to worry about them if they're limited

#

the time limited ones were only 3

#

all the others are permanent and you don't need to worry about when you're gonna use them

fathom yacht
#

Yeah it’s also worth noting that you can get most of if not all of the rewards you probably care about from the passes you get

vagrant moon
#

just pay attention to getting the rewards monthly, but you can play as you like

fathom yacht
#

And if you didn’t cash in on the coins and powerups on Jan 31st you have an even easier time

#

Let me put it this way: if you can consistently put 3 roles on each stage, even if you go to Hard on Area 10, you’re getting 7750 a pass which allows you to get every roll cake coin and 19/20 5*powerups every month

rustic dagger
#

i assume this would also mean not buying anything from the shop

fathom yacht
#

So there’s no reason to save the passes because you would just be wasting a consistent pattern of the rewards that matter

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Yeah buying items from the shop is bad

rustic dagger
vagrant moon
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you can buy items just fine

fathom yacht
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If you need them then sure

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But it’s a good habit to try and avoid them as much as you can

timid hound
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I max my spending at 300

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Assuming I do all areas VH with a minimum of a x2.50 multiplier

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I calculated my break-even point and a sufficient margin of error in case I get screwed by roles

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Just for me though, everyone's going to have different tolerances

urban ledge
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Yeah everyone’s got different breaking points haha

timid hound
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Yes

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My breaking point is getting sprint + field in one set with a healthy amount of field scattered in other areas

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This game can be vicious at times

normal python
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Yeah, sprint + field is a completely ass combo

outer jasper
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Dang my run is a perfect opportunity to sweep with Red

stiff flume
timid hound
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Idk which set this is, but it's not okay AcerolaPensive

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I'm going to have to eat a -150 point loss minimum

urban ledge
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The day the game decides to screw with me for my last run lol

stiff flume
timid hound
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We have a different pattern but the same screwing over

stiff flume
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All 3 runs had two sprint+field
If you look at the datamined info you see dena liked placing that combination
Distribution is not equal if we have no unit coverage

timid hound
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Riley is going to be a massive boon lol

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It'll at least expand my sprint + field leniency

urban ledge
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All runs are NOT born equal lol

timid hound
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Definitely not

urban ledge
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I forgot

stiff flume
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Nop

urban ledge
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Does SS Gladion have a Sprint or Field EX Role?

timid hound
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Sprint

urban ledge
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Phew

timid hound
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Thinking of holding sprint for him rather than Cyn

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We'll see when we get there

urban ledge
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The ones I have that wre waiting to be unlocked are all just Tech and Support

timid hound
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I've only caked NCRosa so far

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very wait and see

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That'st just me being conservative though lol

urban ledge
stiff flume
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At the end of this month we'll have 19 units covering sprint or field and 418 covering the others
There's no reasion for them to set field and sprint so frequently

urban ledge
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I know Cerena and NC Leaf are gonna be my next caked but not sure which one appreciates it more

west abyss
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Leaf, imo

stiff flume
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Both love it, Leaf a little.more
But you can wait for the match eventually

west abyss
urban ledge
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Wait for the what?

timid hound
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Match?

stiff flume
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Just to avoid giving cake to Leaf and then you got Anabel twice PrycePain

timid hound
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Ah true

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Wait and see tactics

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Okay time to use a strike unit as a tank

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MCPikachu is tanky right

stiff flume
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Kinda, depend on stage, they may oneshoot him

tame forge
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You can use mc pikachu early on tbh

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Potion fodder

timid hound
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This is Area 9

tame forge
timid hound
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Wait no I got it

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Hilda tank

stiff flume
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Ooof, need a tank striker?
Ethan is nice, evasion+healings

timid hound
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She has potion therefore tank

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Oh true!