#Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles
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Fwiw it's a 1/5 cheren
I remember seeing a few clears on Nita and others
Either way, Dahlia is a partner to Serena, she wouldn't be the one to kick her out, it would need to be the other unit
Although iirc Cerena herself has a better track record currently than Dahlia
Mine was solo DPS Anni Steven with aura Cyn and Lana
Very glad to see other applications of it
I remember seeing someone farm clears on Noland earlier
She's probably coming back soon
he's bullied so often I feel bad for him
Although pre-anni or during anni ain't the best rerun time lol
Yeah I am not gonna get her if she returns soon
she could be post anni
Unova nc duo might be the double mf rerun anni bait which would be good for me since I already have em both 5/5
faut
Faut
But yeah I pulled this back at Noland day 1
The name of this stage is called “Noland’s Plucky Punches”… Well then, where are the “punches” DeNa? I only see Fissure and Earthquake lmfao XD.
Jokes aside, this stage is quite interesting. Puts you way more pressure than Palmer’s and some units in particular are mandatory for this if you don’t plan on pre syncing it!
Aura Cynthia here plays ...
Which was very very close
But heck still my proudest clear in UBs
Only Steven, no other flying
I am so happy Noland is frail af
she's the wrost mf rn
The wide guard quad queue is smth I very suck at but in that battle guaranteed me a safe win
Double Anni Steven sync with se up and the rest is dragon ascent
oh right any AS dana clears yet?
if you have ASS and ASC they duoed Dana so you could toss him there but idk if you would be fine with that
So like, it would be forced to put him there
That looks fire pykuo
I don't know if you are fine with using arc duo with AS
I wish I got ASS instead of ASC
But overall like, he won't give that much of a contribution
yeah that's why I was unsure if you are fine with adding him to that comp
could AS,SS Mina and uh....
But at least there he was doing smth
there he's contributing meaningfully by removing sun
Since sun was reappearing
Yeah
And some damage to let red kill entei before et run out
It was a high roll
ah back when sstr didn't have cake
was he caked then
……….
damage roll or gear only needed. You can do it
That team deal enough dmg
Wonderful
Looks very much fun
Well the rotation look good for me at least
could you record the clear and put it in the doc if possible btw
Real honest, we might have many Palmer rush clears but this one looks so silly yet fun
Also maybe i should Sync with Gloria 1st
Do whatever you feel it's right, you are already doing wonders

Did you see my Mela clear yet ?
Just a rushing comp
3/5 EXR NC Leaf
4/5 EXR Mela
5/5 EXR Chase
Little Mela's team showcase, she is a really fast ramping with good DPS and nuke B Move. She can buff Def/SpDef by herself so she is really good with Chase for more ramping and access to Circle. NC Leaf does NC Leaf thing: Nuke, debuff, rebuff, sun and Pots. Sadly this team doesn't do well in UBs when ...
couldn't this comp do morg too btw
and maybe mr
Mor is impossible btw
why
Leaf cant protect herself from debuffing
oh I thought it was 5/5. Must have mixed it up with another support
oh, not even with leaf potions?
oof
duck
I read that as fuck for some reason
I’ll improve that team abit
fuck
I read that as duck for some reason
I read that as chuck for some reason
Damn, Clavell be chunking
🦆 team does Urshifu count as a duck? It looks kinda like a duck for me
a fluffy duck
ludicolo isnt really a duck either, but it's certainly closer than urshifu
it's a Kappa
here i am, looking at my pairs, trying to see how I beat masked royal with palmer without just throwing geeta lol
Use James
event oak counters mr pretty well
oak nidorina has guaranteed poison, speed debuff and special attack debuff on poison sting
a good tank that also drops stats aoe+oak would work maybe?
Arc Steven 
1/5 
could you do oak nc blue palmer actually @final yacht
NC Blue then
I remember that duo+ a few dds like nc cheren working
my bad
isok lol
lol

nc cheren has aoe speed drops so that helps a lot
the others on the doc are roxie and geeta which are on type
every oak clear is either on type or nc cheren
Lemme ping you too 
All my theoretically good supports are 1/5 so I just struggle hard against UBs 
and of course I'm not gonna use NC Blue who's Ice weak against Dana 
The problem with Dana is that she's too fat so Palmer doesnt do shit outside of the zone, so I might need to run Zone MPR
Which means dropping something else :/
Getting closer
really, if my last discharge did flinch I had it
i think
palmer getting an mpr challenge
I hate UBs 
me too
UBs are the best game mode 
you misspelled worst
you misspelled
My weather supports aren't invested, so stages that need weather suck
My only debuff support that's invested is NC Blue... Against 2 Ice stages lol (also Elaine but I can't seem to figure how does one use her in UBs, she needs too much time to buff and debuff)
So uh yeah fun
currently trying.
who thought that 1 buff TM with 3 countdown followed by 1 countdown TM was fun
where the hell am I Venom Drenching in all this
?
those two very quick TMs
getting further with Oak/Oleana/Eri but the sides kill me
Finally
Not like Lucy is hard but a duo is still nice
The powercreep of UBs kinda insane
Don't really think there has been much powecreep for ubs
yeah, i'd agree. Anabel is still one of the harder ones and she's the first they released
Some are visible weaker
they usually seem to balance the stage around 1 or 2 specific pairs, and the strength is typically indicative of the strength of the pairs they balanced around
But they have mostly a range of difficulty
I am definitely not throwing Palmer at Anabel 
entirely understandable
From coughing baby (Lucy) to hydrogen bomb (Nita/Dana)
All previous to Lucy were stronger than her
And I wouldn't say there's much difference from Dana to Leon for example
Morgan seems to be considered one of the easier UBs we've gotten (I dont see it but apparently she is)
Morgan feels a lot like debuff spam to win
Which ig is easier than timing zone to not get nuked
Outside of Dana I would say the sisters are on the weaker side and they're quite recent
morgan does nothing to you if you have triple impervious
which isn't thaat hard to do
I do not have triple impervious so lel
Nita is hard tho
Morgan and Evelyn aren't too hard, but Nita definitely is
Forgot Nita was a sister
oop
Kek
Morgan has felt painful lel
But yeah, it's quite mixed the difficulty
idk i didn't struggle with her too much
Dana wasn't too bad with Palmer all things considered, the real problem was the limitation of 1/5 arc steven lol
I thought Lucy was like the first one because of how easy she is 😭
its very feast or famine with her, bc either you counter her gimmick perfectly and she's not that big an issue or you don't and she's going to murder you
Ive done these
you should probably be able to do noland
Noland is decently easy, just more annoying
Noland's fight is more a matter of figuring out the order of things than anything else, yeah
noland and palmer are a puzzle rather than an actual fight
and maybe a bit of MPR fishing
I need to raise my Lana and a fly user ig
Palmer is harder of a dmg check
I have 3/5 irida and 3/5 nc red but i think i need a good support for nita
Need to still do Nita and Nemona.
I am waiting on getting either more busted units or getting good
Yeah there’s less easy to obtain answers to Palmer’s puzzle (massive damage) compared to Noland (damage guard and other stuff)
still being hard walled by dana 
ive gotten so close with my morty selene leon team but i always just barely fall short
This was my best attempt
Keep consistently getting around this area though
It would be so much easier if I could have vigilance on morty but he needs acuity, and it's too far on grid to grab it without dropping his all his sunny day stuff
This was yesterday
Maybe I just need to fine tune my grids a little more but idk what else I could do with them
Damn that is close
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
This is what im running on them
I knooow, it makes me motivated to keep trying but demotivated each time i get that close and fail
Cuz morty has to live the second sync 50/50 crit, and preferably more than 2 sunny day MPRs so leon can have full uptime after his first sync
Sync order is selene, morty, leon
That was too free, but then again idk who else to use lol
you still need to drop both defenses, impervious alone isnt enough
In that one instance
AltLeon+SSLear+ASteven
That’s my team
Think that’s enough to deal with gimmicks?
yeah
that phase of mr is garbage yeh
is your ASS not 4/5?why not oak ASS and eri
4, yeah.
Oleana nukes.
- ME needs speed debuffs.
oh wait oak does that
nvm
who’s even doing the nuking
Oleana nukes HARD, just the sides are annoying
Double ice weakness on MR ? no problem 
think this team can go 15/15, MR is probably their worst UB
Though will need to roll MG2 for Morgan probably
outstall mr
I assume this team hits hard enough to trigger endure after endure on gio?
idk how tanky Oak would get
ik with enough buffs, AS Steven/Eri are powerfuk
Eri casually healing 1k per Drain Punch
why not tank with ASS
oak has a good bit of healing
try to see if you can outlast mr
idk, but Gio was never a problem. I think I first tried him with the Milo team
just facetanked the EQ (positive ground rebuff DR works on it) and also you got a max guard to ensure Cynthia lives
and that was without a physical circle, this team has it
oh right gio clicks eq. Thought he clicked Blizzard for some reason
I meant overall
with that team I’m not using ASS
ASS/Eri means Eri tanks
still the team could not tanky enough
could be doable with luck
could give it a try
wish me luck
hmmm
struggling with stat drops
eri isn't helping with the gimmicks
and looking at the clears there's only a few teams that can do that
and they're mostly
oleana+roxie or oleana+geeta
and idk if eri can help a team like these supports do in these teams
and for double/triple support clears i'm not seeing one with a support that isn't helping with gimmicks outside of that calem one
they want to do a mr clear with eri
this and chase Lear nc rosa too
there are quite a few off type mr clears (that feel like hell)
i think you'd need to do use either of this duos to make eri work on mr
geeta duo has clears with nc rosa, ssa gio, ssa cynthia and nc silver, and roxie duo has with ss mina
(i hope i didn't miss something after writing a wall of text)
don’t have most those pairs
wow nice
event oak is so good vs mr
for sureeeee
do ya all think may nc blue and nc cheren could do Anabel? I wanna try to do some more ubs using nc blue as the main tank
i don't see why not
Doesn't NC Blue + NC Cheren + Anni Steven clear Nita? One of the most based clear.
I guess this team could prob do Anabel too.
My problem is that I am not dealing damage to anabel fast enough. She's still at 60% by sync 2
should I try running mind games 2 or defense crush 2 on may or cheren and see how far I get?I am tempted to drop vigilance
3.5 nc blue + 3/5 nc cheren + any weather pair should stomp Anabel
Tech Lapras 
will try to record my attempt and build tmrw. Anabel is so fat
her sidemons have less than 200k hp
and if you cant win before 2-nd sync - just use Vigilance
side mons die quickly yeh but mid is at around 60% at second sync and I cannot kill before anabel eventually kills my. The sync isn't killing me, I was just giving an example about how much hp she has left by the time of 2nd sync. Maybe I shouldn't sync with may at all...
Anabel kinda lost her "difficult" factor for me after I beat her twice with 10/5 OG Cynthia (without arc)
as long as you are using 3/5 NC blue or 4/5 ASS* ofc
With other supports it can still be a pain
vigilance just gives you up to ~6 more turns
as long as you are using 3/5 NC blue or 4/5 ASS* ofc
I think that's why
I could bring out ss mina but I already cleared anabel with ss mina once so I wanna use may this time
OG May? Are you using NC blue + NC cheren + OG May on Anabel ?
yeah I would only sync with Cheren (as long as he is 3/5)
yeh
Cheren also gets 2-3 PMUN after every sync or something, you need that
lemme send my specs one minute
my team (everyone has vigi except nc blue who has status immunity)
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
it should be working. Maybe give May DC2/MG2
gonna test her with mg2 tmrw
testing with mgr2 now, even if I don't get crit I can't kill before sync 3 which kills me
triple unova flag bearer! too bad it doesn't stack lmao. anni n exr showcase i suppose
mfw unova flag bearer doesnt stack with itself
yeah 
Because exact same MF passive name

yea ik
its kind of a shame though
when different name ones are allowed to stack
and there are THREE unova flag bearers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj0ya4O9MNw
NCBlue tanking Ice hyperbeam at the very end
Wow arcCynth is crazy
I don't think I can do more UBs
How did arc Steven die
Gladion died so he couldnt haze the buffs
O
And well... Even Steven cant really tank a +6 Sharpened Mind 9 Psystrike lol
MR I got really close so I know it's possible, but it's way too RNG for me to bother trying again
Yeah I need a Porygon Z 
What’s preventing you from Thorton
Having Palmer just sit around doing nothing for half the fight isnt fun and I dont want to use just any special DPS
I kinda want to wait for a special normal 
But he's definitely possible
Fair
How do you like Palmer so far (have you used the Larry Palmer comp yet in a UB or nah?)
I used Larry Palmer in Darach and Palmer
The only ones where I can afford to use Larry and not someone to actually check the gimmicks of the stage lol
I see
Palmer is definitely fun to use, he does funny numbers. His main issue imo (outside of the blatant lack of gimmick checks besides zone) is the grid that's too expensive, most of the time you cant pick the stuff you want.
Dang I didn’t know Larry had no debuffs in his kit he seemed like he would
Well he does but like they’re not a lot
He has a bit but clearly not usable for UBs lol
There's also a real lack of normal supports. Palmer needs to set his own zone back, and he also depends a lot on it to deal real damages, so you might even need to run Wish MPR (and so lose stuff on the grid)
Anabel why did you have to be a flop
Thankfully Arc Steven is just a crazy good support so it's kinda fine 
Will 10/5 Anabel make a difference
Nope lol
The Anabel Palmer Larry comp is a thing of cs past
She's not a normal support, she's a support that happens to have Field R that sets normal zone

Which was useful before Palmer got his own SA but now it's kinda useless (unless your Palmer isnt SA, which is most people lol)
Hey, that's what I used to beat Darach lol
A few month ago, so all 3 at 3/5
O
Having a real look at Larry’s kit he feels like such missed potential not many debuffs and limited utility
I was hoping for like a SCSteven ordeal
Also, it lacks checks
That's kind of its main problem
Otherwise it's fine
pure bulk at its finest
Anabel is highly reliant on existing coverage cores
But provided you have the bases covered
You got it
bullying evelyn is so fun
very fun to bully her
yep
Wtf ok
Need recommendations for strategy on beating UB Nemona with musharna/necrozma/meloetta or arc garchomp/arc metagross/3rd defogger
Anabel is so annoying. I am trying to beat her with base may, cheren nc and blue nc but she isn't even close to dying by third sync. SS Mina won't work because I need a lot of stat drops and 3 rain
Have you checked the clears in the doc?
Now that I have a 10/5 Palmer, what's better to do than defeating a bunch of UBs to demonstrate his power? So here's what I did! I didn't do Thorton because I'd prefer to do it with a Normal special DPS rather than a random one, but Palmer could definitely beat him. I didn't do Masked Royal either because it's way too RNG with the status applica...
Noland UB team with ss gio?
the preferable option would be not using SS Gio, unless you really want to
Ye SSA gio
you don't build a team for Noland around Gio, he's not a great unit for it
it depends primarily on your dmg dealers to choose your supp
Finally, my own Nita clear
this time I even recorded the clear
@final yacht I didn't record the end part of my clear (accidentally ended the recording at the end while trying to take the pic). Will the it be ok? The recording cut off when my cinderace was about to pyro ball the 1% Nita
Ig it's fine
k thx. I will try to upload my clear tmrw
Ik the nc blue and cheren aren't very unique vs Nita but I got to display some power of marnie at least
do ya all think nc blue v marn and nc cheren could do thorton
I dont see why it wouldnt work
my only worry is nc blue ice weak
how much do type guard cookies reduce move damage by again
30%
maybe it will be enough for survival
Definitely
I used NCblue just grid for the initial damage guard
Or just flinch them
That too
so flinch the first icy wind?
I didn’t want to rely on it but ye
that could work
discharge> flinch>cheren tm>marn sunny day>steelix goes x attack all> discharge(or maybe x speed all if gauge is bad?) >cheren b> pyro ball on articuno to drop defense and chip> dg eat up triple axel> repeat but target the mon that's about to attack to lower it's def
could work
Why X Speed All+ when Blue has free move next after using Discharge?
because my gauge becomes horrible after sun runs out but ig I don't need to space my sun much for this one
New best
So close but so farrr
Im tempted to just take leon to 5/5 for the syun tile
I'll see what datamine has first tho
working on it
I’ve tried both SS Gios but still not getting it quite done
I’d rather not use Guzzlord since I much prefer Lana as of now but does help if Wide Guard doesn’t MPR
Ye
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Good evening, wanna try beating Gio but only managed at best to get to half of heatlhbar with SS Gladio, SS Nemo and Arceus Steven
Anything I should be focusing on?
Fairy-weak Gio is mainly about applying negative status change. With Steven giving Steel Rebuff, I'm surprised you weren't able to pre-sync it.
Maybe I am doing something wrong? Thats why I ask if there is something I should focus on
Is the Steven Support EX Role? And what about the move levels of the other two?
Is the sync wiping everyone? or do they live with some hp?
I cant kill anything
Even if I focus all attacks in one spot, nope
Ah, as in me
Nemona gets wiped out
Hmm, I tried gridless. It is pretty tight.
In your case, you'd sync with Steven after Giovanni syncs in order to reapply Rebuff.
So I did Gladion -> Steven -> Gladion -> Gladion -> B Move
Whoah, I dont think I survived two syncs of mine
But okay, I can try delaying B Move more
Though like this I cant sync Steven after Gio since Gladion makes sync faster
Then wait till Gio syncs
Though, you don’t have Steven EX’d
So you wouldn’t be able to apply that rebuff
Arc Steven's EX, let's him apply rebuff to all targets.
Okay
If gladion is the only ex, then after gio syncs, he'll become nearly unkillable
When giovanni syncs, he removes status changes from all allies. (removing the rebuff)
if your arc steven sync without ex, the only thing that happens is he mega evolves to mega metagross
Okay hold on I can't make Gladion survive Gios sync and I dont remember how I made him survive except tryng to bring his defenses to max and potioning into oblivion
Arc Steven raises defenses with his B Move.
Yeah I know, just gotta apply poitions too to both Steven and Gladio
The fight has several things that make it lethal for 1/5s.
- Offensive Increases, increase Giovanni's potency even more.
- Dark Zone increases all damage he deals and it's extended by quadruple the amount.
- You can't flinch, confuse or trap while they have Dark Zone up.
- Def. & Sp.Def are tripled when not affected by negative status change.
Thankfully Nemona does lower atk. and Ss Gladiond does lower sp.atk
main issue for nemona is the poison weakness and the sludge waves
PHEW! Managed to off Gio just before he synced second time
Thank you for all the hints, wouldnt be able to handle it without you
And yeah, nemona was a bit frail for that but she lowered their stats a little so that was helpful
Another UB Cleared
This is what I get for procrastinating
💀
I was still left with today's tasks ;-;
So eh
It's fien
Although rip like 600 gems
id also take some time to build the squad and all
No major exr Anni N showcase yet. Sad.
should i feed candies to lusamine to beat up some hyperactive girl and her electric hamster (nemona UB)
Nop
If you can beat with Lusamine, you can beat without
She's simply dmg for the stage
who needs a debuffer when you have Lear
I mean Marnie technically debuffs defense
Snatching
(ignore the fact that v marn debuffs defenses in sun)
Lear is such a snatcher

he snatched my heart
No easy pickings on Rosa?
no
not enough grid energy+ thorton almost instantly removes interferences and teetering for 1 turn is not worth it
Oh I see
why Anabel tank?
AS Steven (4/5) seems best since his AoE SpDef debuffs fully setup SSRCs Smarty-Pants. He has status immunity too
Unless you just dont wanna use steven
That team really wants 10/5 SS Ingo too, but thats so expensive
Imagine using ASSteven when NC Blue is better 
if I had 10/5 SS Ingo i would've done way more
than just this
Steven kind of autoslots into any shitty core and works at this point so no point making a clear and go "hurr durr steven carry"
NC blue is generally only better for status cond. If you already have status (from Ingo), then Steven > Blue 99% of the time (except on Noland I guess)
I can make it work, I just need the right shit to happen
3/5 NC Blue is more accessible than 4/5 AS Steven
well true, but if you have Steven why not use him.
Plus he actually does setup AoE Smarty-Pants, better than any other support I can think of
Also Blue can AoE debuff offensive stats always unlike Steven who can only do it thrice
Well, four if 5/5, but Blue can do it infinitely
Blues healing is way more
Limited
And a lot of UBs have ice moves whereas ghost is way less common
you can't just slap steven or blue without changing the whole team, defeating the point of what he's trying to do.
Yeah, I can do this, I just need the right rng
^ ye this they stated th eir parameters lel
What exactly?
what i mean, is without anabel specifically, you lose sleep prevention for allies 🙃
she shoulda had Shield Ext 5, and 2 mp on that move 
100% of my Leon clears without E.Terrain were done with just mass Wide Awake LS. Very annoying, but accessible way to counter sleep
imma need dena to let lucky skills just be like TRs, where I can learn 20 of them and just equip the one I've previously learned.
I'm on hold with doing more ghost clears until SSRC 5/5 update + ghost arc. After those come out, I'll see where ghost stands and what they can do then
Hopefully they make ghost arc op + a support
Also, in regards to this team, doesn't SS Ingo do 2-in-1 with countering one of Leon's gimmicks and setting up Smarty-Pants?
Ingo's B Move lowers Sp. Def. by 2 when hitting a burnt enemy
Yes, that's kind of the point
that SS Ingo especially with awakening is a fantastic cynthia partner
noting that I already did eve with Gardenia instead
i just want more clears with my awakened Anabel
without using broken counters
are you relying just on Anabels TM to counter sleep?
"Applies the Status Condition Defense effect to the allied field of play. "
How many MPRs does this require for the whole fight?
Would be cool if she had Team Wide Awake or something
What max move on Anabel are you using?
Replenish or Guard?
replenish
damn it
missed crit a no MPR
if I had it I think I would've gotten it
and*
I think just 4
like after the first bar
- inferno
you more or less don't need it anymore
this includes ofc the replenish
but yes, if my Ingo was 10/5 this would be a piece of cake
only 3/5 sadly
Is anyone else trying to do stuff with v marn rn? I was wondering when else to do with her to showcase her abilities
wanna try Mix Lucas if/when I get another copy for 3/5
Probably try him with both Garchomps.
no sync crits on mid other than rosa sync btw
ASC + Mix Lucas + SSA Cynthia would be funny. Since Lucas boosts both Sinnoh and Ground master passives
I would like to test him out too when I get him to 3/5
and he has AoE Atk/SpAtk debuffs
so many units randomly get attack and special attack debuffs now
clavell randomly getting hit attack special attack down
I mean you can say Avery has it "randomly" too
but it's on purpose, they know it is a valuable thing, that is why it is locked behind 4 and 5/5 on those grids
they give that to random units, but not to supports/beefy tanks that actually want them most 
Its still only Steven, Blue and ~Elaine
What about Atticus
oh yeah
not AoE though ?
it is for 2 attacks
Rika too, also not AoE IIRC
If you could choose only 1 - would you take Soften-Up 1 for SSRC 4/5 or 5/5 grid or zone extension ?

zone extension
100%
needing MPR fishing is a pain in the ass
Srsly tho, I think i was a bit too harsh on Anabel
Granted, if you consider that I'm harsh against something like Aura Cynthia
I'm harsh on her too
since she is fully reliant on external checks
but she's really fat
tbf if you have 10/5 SS Ingo and use both together - Soften-Up 1 actually gets a consideration IMO
Since 10/5 Ingo fixes zone uptime, but nothing can fix missed sync crits
but yeah overall extension wins
my long-term copium is that Soften-Up 1 will be part of SSRCs 10/5 passive
When MFs get SA
well, I do think it's better because it means Cynthia can flex beyond Ingo
First Ultimate Battle clear
good job. I am sure you could get the fodder 4 too(Lucy, Noland, darach and argenta)
damn it
I blundered
and forgot about the reset
I almost had it again but my own stupidity stopped it
i'm so dumb
I used a sync without burn essenitally
TM: Ramp Up 2 
And for 5/5 Ghost Wish: Propulsion 9
more Evelyn bullying
close

I did it lads
Missed a crit but got it anyway
The hardest part is Cynthia mpr lol
I only needed 1 mpr from anabel
SS Ingo clear 
is that the first ghost team Leon clear ?
especially without NC blue
Pretty sure it is
Ghost had no good status user prior to Ingo unless
You played blue + two ghosts I guess
finnally nita defeated with a eggmon, it was a several hours of
RNG
only two UBs left, recomendatios, i will send my limited RN
i finally beat dana with leon, morty and selene, but i did end up biting the bullet and candying leon to 5/5
i still have 2 gold candies in reserve for dark arc though
and he's insane at 5/5 so id say worth the investment
They wanted Penny GONE
Yes
Nice. SSR Cynthia has done 8 UBs so far by my count.
-MR should be doable with SS Ingo too I think
-Giovanni as well, probably with AS Steven for the endure and flinch
-Morgan idk, seems hard.
-Nita, Nemona - no
-Dana - maybe with Yarrdenia + SS Mina. It would take over 12 turns for sure, but you do have enough zone. Issue is you need Acuity which means no Vigilance, which means relying on Minas TM MPRs, for crit immune
you can 100% do palmer
you can 100% do palmer
what are you allowing to be used alongside ssrc
uh, everything. Just 2 ghost dps + anything 3-rd
milo ssrc ss ingo could handle nemo I think
ingo has confusion
for the negative status change
and nemo has no reseliance
and nemo has no reseliance
so atk/spatk debuffs? or did Ingo have some?
and confusion isnt great on Nemona, her sides have interference cleanse
Ingo would need to reapply it all the time instead of attacking
anyway its probably not enough dmg to kill Nemona before 2-nd sync
not yet
why not go irida ss ingo Milo then?
same issues still remain + way less ghost zone
Ghost probably needs rebuffs from ghost arc to have enough damage for Nemona
irida has debuffs+irida will constantly apply trap
True.
But weaker sync and either no zone or only 1 zone (from 10/5 Ingo)
maybe enough with irida's burst
ingo/steven/SSR vs MR is hard
Cynthia doesn't kill fast enough and not enough offensive debuffs to catch up
at some point you get oneshot through vigilance
because of debuffs
4/5 steven should be enough offensive debuffs?
anyway it should be hard, MR is tough. 10/5 Ingo and SSR future 4-5/5 nodes would help, probably
Yeah no
4/5 steven can't solo check the debuffs by himself
because that's what I have
you need excellent Ruthless procs from Ingo
just to not die
and sides will also rekt you
and you have to keep resetting
What pairs i need?
I suggest you check the UB doc and you will find some team related to your roster for Palmer atleast!
i scrolled thru the doc and he's missing lear/rose for steel team and irida for nc red
geeta clears are with rei/nc hop for seun but maybe riley works?
flying clear has 4/5 cheren and 5/5 skyla (unfort and extension) but no exr on mina so maybe
there's a bunch of clears with different stuff with nc silver so maybe he works with a new one?
but idk
he's as hard as Leon imo
He's a lot worse than Leon. You also need to debuff MR's speed otherwise you die, and he buffs so much you really struggle just to stay alive without proper debuffing
Also MR cures status a lot because of so much TM usagw
Yeah. I don't think Ghost team stands a chance agaisnt Royal
Ghost team with SS Ingo?
SS Ingo isn't terrible on Royal since aoe burn is good, but with SSR Cynthia it's impossible
Cause they were trying several teams with Ingo and Cynthia but Royal isn't possible
He does need debuffs that equal to Venom Drench
Yeah. Honestly if Steven could debuff speed he'd probably work
The fight after all was made for Oleana and Geeta
I've come close, but I need higher Ingo investment
I'm wondering about something
Are the trainers in the Ace Academy Tournament considered as Battle Facility Foe?
How close?
About 30-35% health, sides dead
A big issue is hitting the 70/30 fast enough
- the reliance on mpr
Doesn't Royal only reset on 70%?
I think it is
I think Korrina unironically would give me more results
Honestly yeah
But havent tested
She could steal buffs and with 5/5 she has buff block
I don't think the sides will be a huge issue with buff block
Cause you prevent them from buffing
Yeah, the focus is to kill mid I reckon
Well, yes and no, since her block is not permanent but you can reset the slate
And reduce a lot of the output
It's renewed every time you use spectral thief though
Yeah, that's fine
You just have a longer clear but it's safer
It's semi permanent, you have to use coinflips
Yeah
I'll try it down the line, I need to finish my Anabel video
Which includes the ghost Leon clear
i think it's just on the first hit
and first sync with awakening
SS Korrina 4/5:
1st Hit: No Stat ↑ on Field
Applies the No Stat Increases effect to the opponents’ field of play the first time the user’s attack move is successful each battle.
I think they meant via Spectral Thief itself stealing the buffs
No one expected Ghost weak Wally UB
It's more absurd to me that when ingo and emmet will apear, or r they gonna just be scam in the br starting page?
Swords to sense
It's ghost weak right
Use Ghost Zone!
[legend_rule_7010_001] The first time Gallade’s HP reaches 60% or
lower, it endures with that HP.
[legend_rule_7010_002] When the opponent’s Sp. Def is raised,
its Defense and Sp. Def are tripled.
[legend_rule_7010_003] When the opponent is not affected by a
field effect, its Defense and Sp. Def
are tripled.```
another UB that's basically just a mix of old ones
welcome back darach/evelyn
Wally is built like a 2023 UB if it’s just those two
makes sense since ghost isn’t as busted as other types
Zone requirement is harsh though
SSR CYNTHIA WILL MAKE A COMEBACK
idk i don't have any other ghost zoner
yeah that too
but i want SSR to be good again
idk so far it appears relatively easy unless Wally ends up having idk 2 mil hp or some shit
so basically SSR Cynthia and Summer Gardenia playground? o.o
2 relatively tame conditions
i mean that gimmick does not sound too bad
how much HP and offenses do they have i wonder?
unless it has some crazy passives
Considering the tech/strike pair focus
I can feel it'll be like 800k HP lol
It's made for Summer Gardenia
summer gardenia doesn't have DEF debuffs no? D:
oh just SP.DEF
Summer Gardenia counters all of Wally's gimmicks
Cute xD
SSR Cynthia is kinda unreliable since it's 50/50
why do i get the feeling wally's gonna have nita levels of sp def buffs
If she had, then it would be purely made for Summer Gardenia
She's more likely to get a -2 than to get a -0 even
SSR Cynthia gaming + Summer Gardenia...
but whose the unit to use though for tank?
NC blue? SS Gio Alt?
Anyone really
arc steve does lower spdef with b move so there's that overkill
need field though D;
you know which one
The fight is attuned for Summer Gardenia and it doesn't include SSR Cynthia (and this isn't because of my hatred for her)
Cynthia:
fine. 5 uses of Ghost Zone D:<
anyways you know as soon as that UB drops i'm gonan try and clear it with ss wally
wally vs wally
Would arc Steven + arc Cynthia + whatever work for it?
10/5 SS Ingo 
In theory*
unlimited*
MP refresh every single time
trust
Yes
Unless the Sp. Def buffs are too much
Then you're gonna need a dedicated third
i think it might not work, but it really depends on how much HP UB Wally has
if he has the standard UB HP yeah it could probably work
but if dena makes it to like 800k hp yeah no lol
and the sp def buffs
if they're as prevalent as nita's speed buffs yeah this UB is gonna be hell
SS Lear 3rd should work
possibly
i also realised that ss wally could actually work really well here
he sets zone and has a tile to lower spdef
i mean yeah it needs the enemy confused but you could grid wally with gobsmack
you will however be missing out a sync multiplier
but hey it's just interference sync 5
and you will still have devastation
or you could give up devastation
at least there are MG2 cookies for spdef debuffs. Worst case you can slap them on the whole team.
but you can potentially also bruteforce x3 defences if he doesnt hit very hard
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Ultimate Battle Wally’s Sensing Swords
Challenge a Super Serious Wally
Rec.Lv: Lv 140
No Stamina Required
Use Skip Ticket: No
❗❗ Boss Hint Legendary
Themes: Lower your opponent’s Sp. Def! Use Ghost Zone!
Rule 1: The first time Gallade’s HP reaches 60% or lower, it endures with that HP.
Rule 2: When the opponent’s Sp. Def is raised, its Defense and Sp. Def are tripled.
Rule 3: When the opponent is not affected by a field effect, its Defense and Sp. Def are tripled.
Boss Hints
🚨 Watch out for these!
Focus 1: Sp. Def Up
Focus 2: Critical-Hit Rate Up
NPC Center 1-1: Wally - Gallade (Male)
Weakness: Ghost
404250 HP
4608 Attack
83 Defense
4608 Sp. Atk
83 Sp. Def
67 Speed
📢🎯 Focus on these!
Focus 1: Sp. Def Down
Focus 2: Ghost Zone
⚔️ Base Move Sets
Move 1: Psychic (Unlimited)
Move 2: Earthquake (Unlimited)
Move 3: Focus Blast (Unlimited)
Move 4: Giga Impact (Unlimited)
Move 5: Dire Hit + (Uses 1)
Move 6: X Sp. Def All + (Uses 1)
Sync Move: Rallying Close Combat
400k YYYOOOOO
NPC Center 1-1: Wally - Gallade (Male)
Weakness: Ghost
404250 HP
4608 Attack
83 Defense
4608 Sp. Atk
83 Sp. Def
67 Speed
📢🎯 Focus on these!
Focus 1: Sp. Def Down
Focus 2: Ghost Zone
or did they just decide
NPC Right 2-1: Camper - Slowbro (Female)
Weakness: Ghost
346500 HP
4224 Attack
83 Defense
4224 Sp. Atk
83 Sp. Def
204 Speed
📢🎯 Focus on these!
Focus 1: Sp. Def Down
Focus 2: Ghost Zone
to lower difficulty
NPC Left 3-1: Lass - Gardevoir (Female)
Weakness: Steel
207900 HP
4224 Attack
83 Defense
4224 Sp. Atk
83 Sp. Def
204 Speed
📢🎯 Focus on these!
Focus 1: Sp. Def Down
Focus 2: Steel Zone
Told you it was made for Summer Gardenia
he has the highest Atk/SpAtk tho, of all UBs
Mega form is higher than Anabels
With how much they tried to prevent the rats back then, why are they so happy with helping the steel team
Also only one endure?
Is this gonna be a damage race then like flying or fighting?
They're making the battles have Condition Nullification Extension 9
Which can be a hit to them, they wouldn't beat all UBs if they all had that over 5
Also, Wally hits harder than the common UB due to high stats and BP, but no, it's not really a damage race
It honestly just doesn't look like a hard UB, at first glance
kek
Passive 20: Critical Strike 9
Not sure who else is made for Wally
Very clearly Cynthia
And i guess finally Anni Lillie 2021 can clear easily with sp9 at 5/5
While we are at it
Uh, she can be the main damage dealer
400k hp isn’t a lot
But she doesn't cover either gimmicks
F2P clear possible?
Gardenia does both steel and ghost zones and lowers Sp. Def. too
I guess the best/"intended" team here is like:
SSR Cynthia + Summer Gardenia + AS Steven lol
But not sure if you'd want to hold off on usign Metal Sound
To save the steel zone for later
You included freaking Argenta on Dana when she does nothing there lol Cynthia still is covering Ghost Zone + Sp. Def drops
The game doesn't want you to use Steel Zone at all
Argenta is the accuracy buffer if you don't have the steel trio
Aka the easiest gimmick to ignore
Spdef boost seem to be on every middle tm(barricade buddies) and every sidemon move(force field9)
oh no acc debuffs lemme just roll for acuity rq
You could even include the Creamy Cookie as the Dana counter at that point
And they have team spdef entry 2
So not as aggressive of a stat buff as nita, but decently aggressive
steel weak sides lol
Just side
it does require A LOT of spdef debuffs, so I'm thankful for lower hp.
the full clear teams with Blue + ASC will either require running 2-3x MG2 or bruteforcing triple defences
Slowbro is still Ghost-weak
overall
Summer Gardenia and maybe SS Ingo too
SS Ingo is a better gimmick check to Wally than SSR Cynthia
also another thing i noticed
if the attack stats mean anything ,all attacks are going to hurt
Again, Summer Gardenia is the first, Cynthia comes right after
he isnt thats just your Cynthia hatred talking 
If Renegade Cynthia doesn't classify, 80% of the units listed on the other battles don't
its very obviously Yarrdenia and SSRC here
wally has the same attack stats as anabel
Like I mentioned, the Creamy Cookie is a better counter to Dana than Argenta is
so you'd better bring a strong tank
I was hoping to go for fall iono, sc itida, and ss morty for fun b-move refresh with sun
But it looks like I’ll need nc leaf instead of iono for more aggressive spdef debuffing
Well, the gimmicks alone are fully countered by Gardenia either way, so it doesn't matter who else is the damage dealer
also I think arc cynthia isn't really viable since wally also clears wtz upon hitting endure
Whether it be SSR Cynthia, SC Selene, AS Steven, etc
Arc Cynthia is a very easy win against Wally
Someone bring up the Vaas quote about insanity
Apparently I keep ignoring his advice
thats a total non-issue. the only thing she lacks is spdef debuffs
but it's shit advice
Even besides her resummoning the Field under every sync, she probably can beat down Wally to the endurance before she exhausts her Sandstorm uses
so it doesn't matter
and if you were wondering if i forgot dust kicker, i don't consider anything beyond 3/5 for arc suits unless someone is specifically attempting a clear with them
the question is about the beating down to endurance part personally
I wonder if the strat with Gardenia is to immediately use Metal Sound or rely on a secondary Sp. Def. buffer to save steel zone
You don't need Steel Zone
Just use some Metal Sound then start using Shadow Ball
Gardevoir has less than half of Gallade's HP
Slowbro's considerably bulkier than it too
i've actually always wondered
do the two 3x defence stats passive effects stack?
Yes, just like how Thorton gains 3x defensive stats without a negative status change and gains another 3x because of his passive
If without a negative status change, Thorton gains 9x defense above 60% HP and 9x special defense below 60% HP
so it appears the requirements are basically:
Set zone
Drop Sp Def
Don't get crit
Set field*
zones are technically field so i'm pretty sure i'm not wrong
Ye set any field effect
overall i'm gonna wait and see if having the most attack outside of anabel does something to the damage before deciding the difficulty, although at first glance he appears to be one of the easier ones on the account of having no oppressive damage boosting modifiers
Its coz our current Ghost lineup is just weak af compared to the previous types.
They build the difficulty around the on type units, not Arc duo.
well he has 5 damage passives, thats above average probably.
Passive 10: Sp. Def ↑: Moves ↑ 9
Passive 11: Scholar’s Sync (Sp. Def) 9
Passive 17: Unaffected by Field Effect: Moves ↑ 9
Passive 18: Unaffected by Field Effect: S-Moves ↑ 9
Passive 20: Critical Strike 9
Just that they are countered by ghost teams
he's still not hard, no way in hell but he does sound like a medium UB
F2P isn't beating this
since there's a notorious lack of relevant spdef debuffers that are free
yeah they're not after thinking about this
the ibggest problem is the first attack
it will just one shot whatever is put in front
Anabel: finally, a worthy opponent
you know what's funny
according to the UB sheets Anabel and Wally have the same attack and sp attack stat like i've said already
I like to believe that the reason why the stage focuses on lowering sp def of all stats is because of this
weirdly, Wally UB has Dire Hit + and not Dire Hit All+
Maybe just a typo?
Since Wally is in an UB, that opens a lot of... possible UBs to say the least lmao
People debating whether we get Ingo/Emmet & Red for last or Dahlia & Greta:
Wally with a steel chair:
that's why i added all those people lol
they all are in the battle tree
wtf
is there anywhere with all the ub details
^
More Lear food
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he's frail
basically it;
it's darach+needing zone
i wholeheartly believe that like every single element of this UB is designed with some level of subtle referencing
spdef drops are a pain for some teams. Not as much as speed on Nita, but still
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~~just as he canonically should be
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as a side note he has the same UB everything else stats as anabel except for HP which is only 404k
what about the sides
the 200k side is steel weak
but that just means if you use ss pear it dies even faster
I am talking about the passives
oh and btw the side passives
notable ones are group morale 9 and force field 9
I wonder if double Lear could theoretically be enough
yeah
so spdef every move they make
are all the buffs aoe
iirc force field is aoe
I could do something similar in principle to this clear but with SS Lear instead of v marn
does Wally have dire hit + all or sure crit
it's not +all for some reason
oh then I already see the line
but a crit is basically an instant kill
too bad he won't have any crit up
Nc rosa Lear SS Lear is something I wanna try on wally
Question
i want to try ss wally
Does Wally actually summon Fighting Zone
Oh true 
and does 2x the damage without it
wait anni lillie got super powered 9?how strong is her on type dps now
lear prob wants to snatch turn 1 for the first big hit
surprisingly they went easy on us after what they did with dana, morgan and nemona
Lear technically checks all of wally's gimmicks
yeah and she's guageless unless avoid schenanigans
not all, since he alone can't summon field effects
but most yeah
include Mr in there too. He's evil.


