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#Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles
low coral
stable storm
Leon>nc red for sure imo
snow spruce
I still have no idea how he did Morgan with that team
stable storm
watch the replay
low coral
Gio is fat af
stable storm
morgan ain't that hard to burst
low coral
And you keep her debuffed
dim lance
if you give gio a stun or a pot
snow spruce
the Morgan replay is no longer there in-game gotta wait for the upload
dim lance
he's super fat
stable storm
especially when gio is eating up a lot of the debuffs so leech is less
sour elk
Keeping her debuffed is impressive without impervious
stable storm
gio kinda cheeses that by eating all of the attacks
sour elk
I also thought Leaf wouldnt be able to keep up with the leeches lol
stable storm
so the debuffing and leeching is less
low coral
Keeping her debuffed is impressive without impervious
It's two or three units combined for each stat
stable storm
so leaf can keep up and Leon can burst down
low coral
Leon and Leaf do Attack, Giovanni and Leaf do Defense, and all three do Sp. Def
stable storm
gio definitely nc rosa equal at least for me
he proved that he could tank
and threw away most doubts
all full clears survive dana
except the milo ones
and Avery ones
sour elk
I need to watch that replay, because it also doesn't seem to me like Gio would have much chance to crunch but here we are
paper mural
Did ppl really question his tankiness before???
river prawn
his healing sure
river prawn
because an external potion is wanted
fading walrus
sour elk
Yeah I questioned how he would fare after healing from a Take all Next sync and taking a strong hit without defense buffs
fading walrus
He'd be so much worse with usual support hp pool
But 1100+ is crazy on a take all unit
sour elk
That part is still touchy but manageable
fading walrus
That part is still touchy but manageable
Most rotations do have buffs post sync so queueing heal before sync into stockpile means you heal sync and take 1 hit at +3
Stuff like Nita for example
river prawn
he still wants to heal before and after sync
fading walrus
Depends really
river prawn
that is the problem when you don't have potion like NC Leaf
stable storm
Did ppl really question his tankiness before???
many
low coral
Did ppl really question his tankiness before???
Not really questioning his tankiness by itself, but I saw a lot questioning the extent of it
When I compared +0 debuffs Gio vs -6 debuffs Blue
stable storm
do ya all think gio>= rosa now
silver spruce
Rosa definitely has a better ex role. That sprint role helps a lot
stable storm
field probably unironically is an amazing anti gimmick exr for gio
warm haven
I haven't seen much of rosa either.
paper mural
Field actually helps tankiness (boost the defensive stat).
warm haven
She's just there for fighting and psychic team
stable storm
what do we call this comp btw
sour elk
Gio >= Rosa seems very reasonable to me, gotta admit Gio is impressing me
sour elk
what do we call this comp btw
Gio fire is a good fit
stable storm
gio fire wrecks dana
sour elk
They have to power through one zone period, but they did Nemona so they most likely can
stable storm
Leon could burst down a zone
paper mural
Oh yes this is the rare case that no terrain change but beat Nemona right?
Only steel and gio fire currently or am I missing other teams?
stable storm
I feel bad for ss morty
low coral
Morty will remain more popular than Giovanni for Fire teams
stable storm
Oh yes this is the rare case that no terrain change but beat Nemona right?
Only ...
only steel and fire yeh
stable storm
Morty will remain more popular than Giovanni for Fire teams
still it's kinda sad that he couldn't do much for fire ubs
warm haven
No Terrain Nemona Arc Cynthia clear yet 
stable storm
He did a lot
I thought mono fire ub performance dropped?
low coral
Dropped relative to what, the new UB hasn't come out yet 
Morty mainly struggles against Anabel for obvious reasons
But there should be a Morty variant for pretty much everything else
stable storm
Dropped relative to what, the new UB hasn't come out yet <:SeleneLul:61138218771...
recent ubs
like morgan
low coral
Yeah, which people use Morty to let Hilda win, for example
stable storm
oh right I forgot ss hilda existed
paper mural
SS Morty also has Impervious (under sun only).
low coral
Yeah, if anything, pretty much every Fire-type wants Morty as their main support for Morgan
sour elk
No Terrain Nemona Arc Cynthia clear yet <:MinaBreak:1103286730762760302>
That's interesting, is it because the immunity to trap doesn't let her farm SyMUN and she's lacking that much damage ? 
Fire also has the advantage of having the ability to re-apply rebuff after the cleanse
stable storm
maybe mucas could allow a brute force?
ASC teams generally aren't as bulky as the terrain nemo teams might be the biggest easy imo
snow spruce
Theres no real reason to do terrain Nemona unless that same team can also all the other UBs, which is usually the end goal for doing these kind of clears
and Cynthias all UB teams are generally able to just counter everything as intended
warm haven
That's interesting, is it because the immunity to trap doesn't let her farm SyMU...
She could use another partner to apply Rebuff. But I think her main problem is that she can't kill the sides fast and plays with half dps on top of the DR
paper mural
Just finished the Milo clear and I found he didn't even bother to record Lucy and Darach lmao.
snow spruce
You can probably do terrain Nemona with SSG Gio + Arc Leon + Arc Cynthia actually
Since she is immune to debuffs anyway, you could maybe afford to swap out Leaf for a major dps boost
and both would have rebuff on sync which is good - sync with each one, which is also more value from SyMUN
the main difficulty of terrain Nemona is your dps surviving the syncs, which Take All fixes
Wont be able to do all UBs though
I thought maybe Arc Lance too (Gio-Lance-Cynthia), but the debuff immunity destroys his B-move damage 
river prawn
Could Arc Cynthia survive with Arc Steven and SS Lear
golden steppe
Anyone have an Arc Steven 4/5 Grid?
For Nemona UB
Wait nvm I forgot that his 4/5 tile is free
rigid pivot
New ult battle coming out and im not sure what the strat will be but im hoping one of these 3 teams will work maybe
exotic dome
I think the first or the third are better, it’s up move level of Diantha or Selene
low coral
Third is better unless Diantha is underinvested, yeah
Actually, wait, I just looked between first and third lol
Run Rose, he's the best damage dealer for the stage
Honestly top 2 units for the stage
rigid pivot
well here's my issue
bottom right and top left are fully invested (except selene doesnt have her ex role)
but top right
i was planning to 3/5 rose but i dont have the candies yet so hes still 1/5 atm
so i mighttry bottom since i have fully invested all 3 units there
but
idk if i will lack damage on mid
cause its not like i can mega t-tar
low coral
I think Rose always outperforms Silver here
rigid pivot
until the 2nd weather
low coral
The decision is Selene vs Diantha
low coral
until the 2nd weather
There's no second weather unless mid dies before sides
But Rose is made to not let that happen
rigid pivot
Oh really? Huh
My main issue with running Selene is
Her damage is kinda whatever? Plus the fact that her b move will do nothing since she cant infinitely flinch
low coral
No need to sugarcoat it, she's kinda bad when she can't flinch
Yeah, her advantage is that she's boosting Steel
Which will hit harder for Rose
rigid pivot
Yeah thats true
Plus she has extension on steel zone normally
Diantha doesnt
Unless you know 5/5, joy
craggy wind
When Dana
formal matrix
Selene sacrificed damage in her SC alt to exchange for ultra damage in other alt
rigid pivot
I hate that alt elio and alt Selene extension are 5/5
I woukdve gotten them if that was rhe case (I still want elio tho)
rigid pivot
i was planning to 3/5 rose but i dont have the candies yet so hes still 1/5 atm
I can 2/5 rose rn
Just not 3/5 yet
fervent mulch
Pyuko reference
fading walrus
Are you not fishing for tm mpr?
golden steppe
Lusamine?
fading walrus
Ya
Although I guess it doesn't really matter
Since there's no stagger or extra cd going on outside of her
So no turn skip
stable storm
doesn't 10/5 ss hilda have sun
uncut drum
Well yeah but under 50% no rain
Usually you need 2 weather change but this team can get away with only one
snow spruce
full perma rain Argenta has been done before
even by Arc Lance + SS Serena IIRC
AS Steven can basically tank rain Argenta forever
uncut drum
Yeah I know, though Lance can get away with it more easily because of his insane burst damage
It's like how the rats team did it, and Steven can afford to mega immediately
Here he can't since the rain rebuff is needed
opaque dagger
nc serena did too, it's funny when you abuse the opponent's wtz
stable storm
Here he can't since the rain rebuff is needed
didn't steel do rain argenta with only ASS as rebuffer
uncut drum
didn't steel do rain argenta with only ASS as rebuffer
Yes but he didn't sync until Argenta was at 50% so they wouldn't waste a rebuff
stable storm
ah fair
surreal torrent
I need help
Special battle event. Giovanni and his crew
Difficult to kill and difficult to damage
I’m using recommendations and nothing is working
And I can’t get guaranteed paralysis because it’s low chance
stable tundra
What team are you using
If you have SST Red it's a free win regardless of his move level
golden steppe
All you really need a unit that can guarantee paralyzing
surreal torrent
If you have SST Red it's a free win regardless of his move level
I don’t
golden steppe
Show your roster
surreal torrent
I’m not able to cause the website recommended doesn’t work for me
golden steppe
How so?
surreal torrent
I’ve tried for the past few weeks and it stopped working
It would just give me this stupid error message
I even used Chrome and got the same results
stable tundra
You can just take screenshots of your ingame roster
golden steppe
You really didn’t have to do all that, it just clogs up chat.. 
buttt let me take a look
You have SS Emmet and SS Piers
surreal torrent
You really didn’t have to do all that, it just clogs up chat.. <:ColressLook:102...
I had no other option
fervent mulch
I had no other option
We have the tracker where you can insert all your units
surreal torrent
I could’ve just sent it all at once, but my phone’s limited
fervent mulch
+tracker
plucky swanBOT
Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button
surreal torrent
That’s the thing I was trying to use, but it doesn’t work for me anymore
fervent mulch
How doesn’t it work for you anymore?
surreal torrent
Chrome, Safari, it just gives me this dumbass error that prevents me from entering the website
fervent mulch
How peculiar
I assume you’re using an Apple device it works for me but maybe it’s regional locked which it shouldn’t be
surreal torrent
I am
golden steppe
I had no other option
Well anyways; you have SS Emmet and SS Piers which should automatically give you the win once you set him up
Just a bring a support that can fully buff SS Piers
Enable status conditions with thunder fang on all enemies
And then activate terrain with SS Emmet Max move and then Piers B Move
alpine quiver
I cannot wait for Dana's UB
surreal torrent
Just a bring a support that can fully buff SS Piers
What about Holiday Jasmine and Ampharos?
stable tundra
She can work very well
golden steppe
Uhh she doesn’t really help Piers that much, I don’t know how tanky she is but she could work all you really need is someone who can tank
Or nvm
Trust Gakon more than me I don’t know much abt Holiday Jas
surreal torrent
That’s one
fervent mulch
orchid bridge
Leon sweep
paper mural
Can Avery's no extension temporary hail to replace permanent hail help this team beat Dana?
dark dust
If they kill the left side fast enough then maybe
small basin
Can Avery's no extension temporary hail to replace permanent hail help this team...
Should be able to if it works the same way as argenta's
Since rain dance overwrites her perma rain
paper mural
Yes but iirc Dana hits harder in hail than Argenta in rain so they need to survive that.
dark dust
They beat Anabel already right
rotund oasis
Funny team
snow spruce
Can Avery's no extension temporary hail to replace permanent hail help this team...
yes in theory, but not in practice probably
theres still perma ice zone that gives 90% + x1,5 dmg, plus more team healing.
also if you dont kill the side before the center, it wil resummon hail
tbh zone Dana is already by herself probably comparable to sun Anabel. They're both immune to status cond. too
Main difference is that zone Dana is flinchable, but that team doesnt have flinch anyway
And Danas sides are much fatter than Anabels
and then theres hail on top of that
paper mural
Its hard to not kill the sides before middle with aoe sync so I dont think the second hail will ever be issue but yeah the survival is hard.
stable storm
Can Avery's no extension temporary hail to replace permanent hail help this team...
no because zone dana is also a monster
valid raft
rotund oasis
<:SerenaSip:623126213224955904>
nice 😮
valid raft
Another one
golden steppe
What’s Petrel’s gimmick ?
fading walrus
Poisoning you and having 3x defence
golden steppe
Ohh okay
olive hull
Just now doing the Ethan battle. Who's the canon team for this?
uncut drum
Just now doing the Ethan battle. Who's the canon team for this?
The game "wants" you to use SSA Giovanni but you don't need him to clear this battle
Any team that can beat him works but you got to be aware of his passives, in this case that Ethan reduces offenses. Maybe pairs with impervious can help
olive hull
I do have the new Giovanni, so it's just the other things I'm looking to cover. Lots of people were saying Karen was relevant, so I got her. But I feel like it's missing the actual muscle behind the team
fast pendant
3/5 Karen EX is the dmg dealer
uncut drum
Giovanni and Karen should clear easily
Maybe the third can help Karen get her multipliers faster
fading walrus
Jasmine covers the debuffs
If you want
Add Karen and Gio and it's pretty much brainless clear
uncut drum
If they got Giovanni it doesn't even matter if Ethan tries to debuff
fast pendant
which jasmine are you talking about
oh you mean she has atk buffs to counter the atk debuffs
olive hull
Steelix? She has stat reduction defense, or was it something else?
golden steppe
Yeah it is
olive hull
Okay I'll try that
fading walrus
which jasmine are you talking about
Base jasmine
I used her for the f2p clear
She tanks surf, crit buffs and blocks debuffs
fast pendant
Yeah, I don't think will be needed with Giovanni but also works
olive hull
First round was really easy but the second one is way harder. I can't keep up with the relentless onslaught of AOE moves
There. Dang. You'd think Giovanni can keep his defense and keep spamming TM every turn. I got lucky Karen survived with 1% after sync. What's the use of +10 to next sync if I still can't one-shot anyone?
golden steppe
Ok so I believe all you need a zone setter
I think you also need to inflict a status condition
Yup
You could use Anni 24 Lillie and Colress
You can off type it as well
You just need a Wtz and status condition applied on to them
surreal torrent
You just need a Wtz and status condition applied on to them
What’s a Wtz?
crude kite
weather terrain zone
surreal torrent
Okay so I really have 4 options for it. All for supports
NC Calem and shiny Greninja, SS Mina + Tapu Fini, SS Morty + shiny Ho-Oh or SS Acerola and Tapu Bulu
But for keeping the zone in play in case something dumb happens, I could use Mina as the support
tough sonnet
Am I safe?
golden steppe
But for keeping the zone in play in case something dumb happens, I could use Min...
Mina and Fini are fine
tough sonnet
https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1128052735967764621
Sorry
surreal torrent
Got em
Apparently since Solgaleo already had the zone effects, I just needed to bring a random steel type supporter instead to avoid fighting for terrains
That’s all 3 round 2 missions completed
onyx dock
Team rika wins hell yeah
golden steppe
So easy
paper mural
kinda sad to see all of them super easy.
spare lion
Yeaahh
rich heron
They don't even look like ebe
spare lion
Someone told me you couldnt ball it with anni lillie, as steven and ss lear but you can in fact very easily sweep it with them 😭
paper mural
They don't even look like ebe
Coz they're not I guess. They're called special battles not extreme battles.
gentle wharf
Someone told me you couldnt ball it with anni lillie, as steven and ss lear but ...
Those people are damned liars
fast pendant
Replacement in what team
There are no units that can really compare with her for a direct replacement
rich heron
Hmm
I saw an easy Noland clear for me
I can't find it
paper mural
If you mean the replacement of their Nita in UB Noland, any fly or phatom force unit can work.
For genpool option most use Falkner.
You can also be fancy and use tank Lusamine (refreshable Protect).
fast pendant
that would make more sense, I understood as if they wanted to replace Cynthia with Nita
dim lance
Lear isn't the only steel that can pre-sync Morgan
Mine is 10/5 tho
so uhh
grain of salt there
paper mural
10/5 Rose. You're so prepared for Dana.
rich heron
Dana UB soon
snow spruce
I want to see Steel teams Dana clear and outdamage ~120k/180k heals
snow spruce
"Steel team" refers to ASSteven-aLillie-SSLear specifically
so yeah, no weather and 2 zones
but SE damage
dim lance
I'm pretty sure gorin will just do that
lol
gorin is kind of like the king of making full comps work
but tosakinee is more creative
snow spruce
Yeah, thats why I look forward to it 
we havent had a team bruteforcing THIS level of UB healing yet
much less on an UB this fat
dim lance
yeah but it's also 90% DR on top of that, no
zone only gives one AoE ping is primarily an offensive check
hail means you have 90% reduction and a 12.5% healing ping
snow spruce
Winter Coat 9 is only vs regular moves. So you can still rely on SS Lears sync
and PB ignores it too
dim lance
Right, makes sense
low coral
Well, I do wonder how well Steven takes that Hyper Beam
Since Dana's Hyper Beam is most likely the most powerful move he'll face, unless it can be timed to happen on a Zoneless moment
3456 SpA Hyper Beam, but this time it would be Zone boosted and with a 90%
Hits a lot harder than any other Hyper Beam
river prawn
In worst case, he can take endure again
warm haven
yeah that HB is gonna consume the endure
low coral
In worst case, he can take endure again
Well, it's not a "worst case he can take that"
It's more so in a best case he might not consume it
Since the Hyper Beam is very likely to get him to that range
stable storm
Yeah, thats why I look forward to it <:MinaSmile:740065857283162182>
we havent ...
steel comp having to brute force the ub of their own type...
warm haven
That UB is so restrictive for no reason
stable storm
dana wanted to be like her sister
warm haven
Like there's only two pairs that set weather and zone. Irida is ice so its bad and Cynthia that's weak to ice
stable storm
steel nepotism kinda got lucky that dana ended up being steel weak ngl
stable storm
Like there's only two pairs that set weather and zone. Irida is ice so its bad a...
ss mina
warm haven
Ah right
stable storm
which comp is stronger between steel nepotism and gio fire
warm haven
Like there's only two pairs that set weather and zone. Irida is ice so its bad a...
Manually* then
And Dana needs 3 zones
stable storm
And Dana needs 3 zones
why is she so fat with 2 endures
not to mention if she moves once after endure proc while ice zone is up she's regaining 120k hp
snow spruce
3456 SpA Hyper Beam, but this time it would be Zone boosted and with a 90%
anni Lillie can still replace 2 zones, so they only deal with ice zone on the last 30%
at that point its almost over, so even if Steven gets his endure procced and even dies afterwards - not too bad as long as you can finish Dana off
the ~55k-60k extra healing that the 3-rd zone adds might be worse than the increased damage
And it would be in addition to the ~118k heals from Healing Hail 2
On the last 30% of the Steel teams clear Dana is legitimately healing almost 180k hp per attack
stable storm
which comp is stronger between steel nepotism and gio fire
?
stable storm
On the last 30% of the Steel teams clear Dana is legitimately healing almost 180...
Steel gonna be dealing 300k by that point tbf
With the amount of sync ramping steel will have so many sync buffs
snow spruce
18.75% * 943,250 = 176,859
stable storm
even ASS should be chunking enemies hard
snow spruce
ASS is affected by Winter Coat 9 too
their damage will still be mostly just Lears ults
stable storm
and lillie's p blow moves
snow spruce
This will also be without steel zone, so 1,5x less
I still think they can do it, barely, but only because of SE damage
the Fire-Gio team does Steel-weak UB way easier than the Steel team
fast pendant
is the hail permanent?
stable storm
yep
snow spruce
Tbh Fire-Gio team UB clears look easier in general than the Steel teams.
Take All is really op cheese
fast pendant
I haven't seen anything that indicates it
stable storm
Tbh Fire-Gio team UB clears look easier in general than the Steel teams.
Take A...
Take all cheesed morgan so hard
gio was eating all the debuffs
snow spruce
I haven't seen anything that indicates it
Ultimate Battle
Dana’s Icy Passion
❗❗ Boss Hint Legendary
Themes: Change the field! Prepare for the opponent’s powerful attempts to lower your accuracy!
Rule 1: The first time Regice’s HP reaches 80% and 30% or lower, it endures with that HP.
Rule 2: The opponent’s field effects are permanent.
Rule 3: Restores the opponent’s HP when an ally’s attack move targeting the opponent misses.
fast pendant
makes sense
spare lion
20 passives is crazy
marble portal
what’s the ideal team for the second Gio battle
thinking Volo/SS Gladion/AS Steven? don’t have NC Blue so that’s prob the best for me
earnest panther
fun fact: Ash cannot solo Ariana but can solo Petrel and Proton.
unless ash can whip up electric terrain, gg on soloing the entire rocket HQ
snow spruce
there is no Ash in this game 
formal matrix
Arc Steven already soloed all three battles coming out yet despite not checking the gimmick
golden steppe
fun fact: Ash cannot solo Ariana but can solo Petrel and Proton.
Who’s Ash? Is that an oc or something
final yacht
It's this guy
floral crypt
Rafa when no LG
snow spruce
Thought I would need Mind Games 2 LS on Blue for this clear, but good ol bruteforce worked
could be a 15/15 team maybe
stable storm
Thought I would need Mind Games 2 LS on Blue for this clear, but good ol brutefo...
how mr
*thorton
snow spruce
Would be the first all UB team with 2 supports, if it works
no problem with them, Milo tanks
stable storm
how do you plan on doing thorton
snow spruce
Whats the issue with Thorton?
stable storm
wait, is Thorton physically defensive first or specially defensive
snow spruce
physically defensive first
stable storm
oh then he shouldn't be a problem nvm
marble portal
physically to 60%, then special the rest of the way
sides are always physically defensive, they never swap
snow spruce
He was duo'd already, I dont think he is a problem here, but will see
you've got lots of aoe healing and Max guard
pearl pewter
Milo sweep??
marble portal
so is the plan Discharge down to 60% than let AS Cynthia do the rest?
marble portal
Thorton I find a little annoying but got him down
I like revisiting UBs to find new teams but Thorton is a hassle there
def carried by Gloria there personally
snow spruce
so is the plan Discharge down to 60% than let AS Cynthia do the rest?
just spam both the entire way. 1/3-rd of Cynthias damage is still plenty to do the first 40%
but yeah Discharge dmg helps a bit too
snow spruce
ofc
marble portal
shouldn't be too problematic
idk how hard Thorton is normally
I first did it with Anni N/Gloria2/AS Steven
no wait, Wallace
Anni N was on a return but he does not work too well sometimes
snow spruce
He was hard-ish back in the day. Now he is nothing much compared to to the newer UBs
marble portal
one of my clears was Anni N/Gloria 2/Eri and that ended with about 2 minutes of Eri draining the sides
I mean it works but it ain’t the prettiest that’s for sure
stable storm
I recently re did thort with nc blue, cheren v marn , was pretty fun
marble portal
me with no VMarnie
that banner will forever haunt me
at some point you have to wonder why you need so many Bedes
at least he finally let me clear Anabel (do NOT recommend)
marble portal
I pulled 5 5*s from that banner
thankfully all featured
1 was Hop, 0 were Marnie
4 Bede.
It's a damn good thing I like Inteleon, that's for sure
opaque dagger
sides are always physically defensive, they never swap
Sides have 83 def for both defenses
marble portal
Or mix scout
I've been digging thru mix with leftover gems from yellow bundle, so far no luck with Marnie there
Pulled 4 5* from last month and this as of now
SS Morty, Sidney, MLucas, MLucas again
stable storm
Sides have 83 def for both defenses
sides have SE 3
bright python
G U N
spare lion
Did 100k nuke with ss nemona but still lost because couldnt keep her alive for long with penny and eri 💔
steady roost
got it on my second try.
crude kite
this is my punishment for not being able to get ss gladion
bright python
actually ss gladion doesnt really do much
penny ss wally and ss mina gonna be your primary pairs
crude kite
penny ss wally and ss mina gonna be your primary pairs
well point and laugh at melissa bc she has none of those
i hate myself
bright python
Still should be doable
pearl pewter
F2P clear for ss gio EBE out yet?
bright python
If you have a unit to change zone and bring an arc suit you only need to kill him presync
bright python
Probably
crude kite
wait does gio have any of those fancy defense gimmicks like wise or sentry entry?
bright python
No
crude kite
maybe i just have a skill issue then
bright python
But he has the same 3x defence passive as nemona UB
Iirc he also has another 3x defences in dark zone?
golden steppe
SS Mina would’ve survived if Lillie decided to crit her 1st sync
Speedster Sync 4 my beloved
pseudo pewter
May I get help for the new battle evil mastermind
here are my units
I tried Sycamore, Ss Mina and Nc Blue
But died at 50% left
golden steppe
Well that’s your problem too, you have no damage dealer
pseudo pewter
Well that’s your problem too, you have no damage dealer
I see
Well then who do put instead
spiral summit
crude kite
If you have a unit to change zone and bring an arc suit you only need to kill hi...
didn’t presync but it worked out 
spare lion
didn’t presync but it worked out <:LanceShrug:659516543301845012>
Oops! All arc suits
I just destroyed the battle with the steel trio 😭
golden steppe
Well then who do put instead
Hmm you could try to off type with NC red, you really don’t have that much fairy options
spare lion
Ghetsis is not the best
Try using something that can change zone to override dark zone
Something like nc blue nc red and zone changer
crude kite
Oops! All arc suits
even with all arc suits, it was still a pain in the ass 💀
pearl pewter
currently attempting to team build for F2P
at minimum you have to check zone and drop both attacks
already looks really bad
onyx dock
Courtney could work for f2p?
pseudo pewter
Something like nc blue nc red and zone changer
Ss Mina works?
crude kite
at minimum you have to check zone and drop both attacks
what can a f2p player even do? ig courtney can change zone but idk what else to think of
golden steppe
Ss Mina works?
Yes, you shouldn’t have replaced SS Mina anyways 😭
spare lion
Ss Mina works?
Should work yeah
pseudo pewter
Okay
spare lion
Bit of health
pearl pewter
non zero chance that this EBE ends as unsolved by F2P units
pseudo pewter
Yes, you shouldn’t have replaced SS Mina anyways 😭
At one point Giovanni just doesn’t wanna get rebuffs anymore
and I lose
spare lion
Maybe save NC blue's sync?
spare lion
For when he i assume cleans his rebuffs
half silo
took a few tries but i got there 💀
pearl pewter
beginning to come to some ideas
-A2 Lillie checks both zone and relatively minimal spa buffs along with healing
-Bertha can trap and drop attack but does little else
-DC hugh can drop both attacks and technically confuse
-attempted to use both BP Valerie and mc solg as the damage dealer but they seem to be unable to hit hard enough even after trap
spring hazel
what team should I use here? these are my properly built comps so far
I also have a fire comp with SS Morty, Champion Leaf and Mix Blue too
and a bunch of limited units without proper comps yet (Bellelba, Champion Marnie, AS Lance, Penny, SC Lyra…)
as well as probably any F2P unit lol
I tried ground and poison comps but got close but not close enough
spring hazel
yeah I tried getting SS Lear when he released but failed 
spare lion
I think it should still be possible with steel tho... probably
Lillie can change zone
spring hazel
don’t have her 6 EX tho
but probably could (?)
Theres a bunch of field setters there
I tried ghost team and died in 3 turns tho
I also have a bunch of candies I don’t use for no specific reason but if it helps I could
mostly everyone is 1/5 except Klara at 3/5, Steven, Irida and Rose at 2/5 and Lillie at 5/5 ofc
Penny at 2/5 too
I could put Cynthia at 3/5 I think but im saving the candies in case Arc Wallace becomes a thing
pearl pewter
given enough potion MPR luck I think I can win
alpine quiver
non zero chance that this EBE ends as unsolved by F2P units
You're telling me...
I've tried all this time. But, between dealing with zone, applying interference, still finding the space to put out sufficient DPS, and struggling to survive?
This one's gonna be rough
spiral summit
Tbh i only hate the shield
pearl pewter
You're telling me...
I've tried all this time. But, between dealing with zone, a...
are you running a2 Lillie Bertha and BP Valerie by any chance
spiral summit
Why Bertha ?
alpine quiver
Trap
spiral summit
Isn’t she need attack ti debuff
pearl pewter
trap + sand slinger
spiral summit
And she’ll just mess the shield ?
I tried Lucian + Anni Lillie 2 and BP Cheryl
Got down to 30%
alpine quiver
are you running a2 Lillie Bertha and BP Valerie by any chance
I've tried different variations of Anni 2 Lillie comps and Valerie comps. I was just now thinking of Bertha, but you need to hit real hard in two syncs...
gentle wharf
Huh
I wasn’t expecting two Sygna Suit Alt Giovanni battles
Still steamrolled haha, wasn’t sure what the gimmicks were
paper mural
The admins were super easy but the 5th 6th (fairy weak Gio) is actually a bit challenge.
gentle wharf
Fifth or sixth
paper mural
Oh wait 6th. The fairy weak.
alpine quiver
This is the furthest I've gotten
I don't know how much of a difference EX Cheryl makes here
I can't afford even one EX :(
gentle wharf
Now I’m wondering which Fairy units the sixth battle was intended for haha
prime flare
penny and ss wally im guessing
pearl pewter
This is the furthest I've gotten
extremely doubtful that this can clear sides
prime flare
or ss mina
ideally you need fairy rebuff and healing, and mina helps with crit immunity at the start
alpine quiver
extremely doubtful that this can clear sides
It absolutely cannot
Even if I somehow kill the middle before sync 2, Cheryl is still far too fragile
alpine quiver
Good luck
I'm far too tired at the moment. Hopefully, some sleep and a clear mind will help
Though, I won't be surprised if this results in non-F2P-able
gentle wharf
Do we have an F2P Rebuff?
pearl pewter
defenses seem worse but x regen could take potion pressure off a2 Lillie
but then ur missing attack drops
probably a fraud pick
prime flare
bp valerie?
pearl pewter
I was looking into BP Cheryl
but like, very few things can even see the second sync
let alone kill before that point
since he clicks giga impact after the 2 x attack alls
think I’ll stop my attempts for now and see what JP players come up with as I don’t see a way to kill in time yet
lunar sedge
Do we have an F2P Rebuff?
Gordie but he can only apply 2 times max
noble sapphire
crystal zealot
The sixth one is left speechless for gio
He won’t execute anything after the grunts got out of the game
gentle wharf
What?
gentle wharf
So who’s ready for Dana tomorrow lol
bright python
It's done tho
no ss wally?
rotund oasis
That... Was easy
final yacht
No shit, the first 5 fights are easy
earnest panther
no ss wally?
i did have him, but Alola trio was funnier
white ledge
nemona moment
stable storm
has the final ebe been solved yet
earnest panther
what do you mean solved?
as in F2P done?
because imma be real, if you're gonna try to F2P, Gordie or someone with restrained would be the only way to do so.
earnest panther
it can be done, but it would need to be highly invested units.
stable storm
I haven't seen a f2p clear yet that's why I was wondering
earnest panther
it's only been 5 hours so give it some time.
....6 hours. forgor reset isn't 2 AM again yet
pearl pewter
it can be done, but it would need to be highly invested units.
you have any ideas?
my closest attempt was a2lillie/bertha/bp valerie
gentle wharf
Don’t you already send this pic
warm haven
lol wut
hasty bough
Someone help me in the mastermind gio fight, I’m kinda stuck even though I think I should have an easy time
bright python
And the fairy weak fight is much harder
It's basically a mini version of nemona's UB
You need to remove their field effect and set rebuff
Maybe try Penny Lucas and Zerena? At your level of investment for penny you absolutely need a unit that can set zone turn 1
Otherwise penny just dies
golden steppe
Yes he has 3x defense with zone
bright python
Yes otherwise gio does too much damage
golden steppe
I think it’s just on entry
bright python
He doesn't actually
golden steppe
bright python
It's only on entry
rotund oasis
Perfect
bright python
But he does way way toi much damage with the zone
rotund oasis
maybe the sides set it up?
golden steppe
I haven’t seen the sides ever set it up
They do buff him tho
Sp.atk all and attack all
Speed all too
bright python
Also with penny you need to kill him presync or save up a sync from penny because he cleanses rebuff on sync
golden steppe
I think
bright python
Welp. Lets get to cookig
I think this clears it
rotund oasis
Aura Cynthia -> SS Nemona -> Arc Steven -> SS Nemona Sync
very nice.
poison weak though but the circle helped a lot
gentle wharf
So much easier but the tank’s dead lol
tawny prawn
Double giga impacts after 2nd sync
I was trying the triple NC clear but was slow and not enough damage.
Also my NC Leaf has 0 investment
pseudo pewter
Mina > Blue > Red ??
after the second sync of giovanni, giovanni uses giga impact and the sneasel uses blizzard which kills me red, what do i do
arctic mist
I'm a bit stuck with "Challenge the Evil Mastermind". Can I please get some help?
sturdy egret
I'm a bit stuck with "Challenge the Evil Mastermind". Can I please get some help...
change zone with summer gardenia, damage with ss gladion, tank with ssa cynthia
ssa cynthia can change the zone too but summer gardenia can shred spdef
marble flume
If this is the Fairy-weak Giovanni fight then iirc you need a negative status change (Rebuff, Restrain, Trap, Confused, etc.)
sturdy egret
oh yeah, bring nc blue over gardenia
you can give him mind games for spdef dropping
save his sync for after gio’s
surreal torrent
Special battle event against Ariana, she’s unbeatable
Idk what to use and I can’t show my roster because it won’t download
lunar sedge
Ariana has clear advantage 8 I believe
Simply bring any type of WTZ and she should be dust
paper mural
How do the sides live longer than the middle with Margena's bmove 😮
arctic mist
Annoyingly, Overpower and Brainpower are 3/5 tiles. That probably doesn't help.
paper mural
His bmove has innate overpower, so you should still try max spatk debuff on all opponents before firing it off.
Dont waste it too early.
alpine quiver
I assume Fairy-weak Gio F2P is still a big question mark? 😭
arctic mist
His bmove has innate overpower, so you should still try max spatk debuff on all ...
From what I can tell, that would require targeting the sides with many of the other hits, though... I don't think that I'd last long enough without focusing down Guzzlord...
spare lion
I assume Fairy-weak Gio F2P is still a big question mark? 😭
Since he needs rebuff and zone changer.... 
paper mural
From what I can tell, that would require targeting the sides with many of the ot...
Your Blue also 1/5?
alpine quiver
Since he needs rebuff and zone changer.... <:TabithaHehe:998042781375275158>
Y e a h
Not rebuff, specifically
Just interference
clever widget
Not interference specifically, just status changes
Interference means Trap/Flinch/Confuse only
arctic mist
Your Blue also 1/5?
For NC Blue, I do only have 1/5 6* w/o EX role...
(I actually haven't used any role cakes)
bright python
Oof
alpine quiver
Nice
forest aurora
So close, and yet something is missing… why the heck does Giovanni get Status change defense?!?
I have 0 idea on how I can realiably inflict that without sacrificing something…
bright python
no ss wally?
forest aurora
Yeah, don’t have em… Nemona is my best fairy damage dealer
rotund oasis
So close, and yet something is missing… why the heck does Giovanni get Status ch...
he's got 220k~ HP. and his sync removes status change (rebuffs)
bright python
honestly i think you're better off focusing on a sync nuker
forest aurora
Is fairy rebuff specifically that important to beating him?
rotund oasis
uhhhh
rotund oasis
i used Arc Steven for rebuff
forest aurora
If any type rebuff works, I just use NC Blue and I’m all fine and dandy.
rotund oasis
with Aura Cynthia removing the Zone
bright python
my advice is to get a good sync nuker and just point-blank gio with two sync nukes before he can
forest aurora
Don’t have a good fairy nuker, but good to keep in mind.
rotund oasis
my team was basically Arc Steven, Aura Cynthia and SS Nemona o.o
Sync order was Aura Cynthia -> SS Nemona -> Arc Steven -> SS Nemona
bright python
how did you sync 4 times
rotund oasis
SS Nemo has her EXR, same for Aura Cynthia
managed to sync with SS Nemona before his first sync
forest aurora
Honestly, I think this shouldn’t be a problem, Giovanni was just getting way too out of control with his SpA so I had to re-grid Irida for satisfying snarl, lmao
rotund oasis
oh right. my Arc Steven is 4R.... .-.
forest aurora
The biggest thing I was worrying about was if he re-applied Dark Zone on sync, but he doesn’t.
rotund oasis
nah just entry
could've run with Volo too, but i think Aura Cynthia's better for the +6 DEF/SP.DEF cuz gio hits really hard with that sludge wave on your SS Nemona ;<
forest aurora
Mhm… honestly got floored my first go around (when I didn’t know anything) and Nemona literally got 1 shot
rotund oasis
the moment he htis you with another sludge wave is post sync, but by then you'd have her circle out
forest aurora
Exactly, and I have NC Blue this time around.
There is no way he’ll have a good SpA for it.
Easy peasy!
Giovanni tanky?: ✅
Does he hurt?: ❌
Could have cleared him faster, but had to hold off on Blue’s Sync until Giovanni did first sync.
Probably still a good idea to have vigilance on everyone if you don’t think you can beat him fast, he does pop a Dire hit+ right before second sync.
rotund oasis
you let him go to 2nd sync? D:
pearl pewter
how’d we all look over a unit that can check status change, terrain and attack drop at the same time
guess tunnel vision does that to people
next time…
opaque dagger
I remember looking at him for nemona and argenta
Electric weak for nemona sadly
And idk when psychic terrain on argenta matters
But maybe someone with a multiplier for confusion/speed/attack and maybe acc/eva debuff can use him
formal matrix
First try
rotund oasis
First try <:SophoKEK:681916549812060200>
5/5 arc cynthia? D;
rotund oasis
Rip for me then haah
bright python
yeah i dont think i'm beating this
formal matrix
5/5 arc cynthia? D;
Yes
bright python
THEY'RE AT 1 HP WITH 5/5 ALL THIS SHIT WHAT CHANCE DO I HAVE
rotund oasis
First try <:SophoKEK:681916549812060200>
Post Community replays teams?
twin pasture
And here I was thinking “which sync pair could set zone and weather to counter Dana?” completely forgetting about Arc Cynthia
formal matrix
THEY'RE AT 1 HP WITH 5/5 ALL THIS SHIT WHAT CHANCE DO I HAVE
I didn’t use potion
jaunty light
this ub fucked me holy shit
formal matrix
If I use potion everyone will be in high hp
agile wave
Is there stat drops in the start
rotund oasis
And here I was thinking “which sync pair could set zone and weather to counter D...
She counters all of it, problem is...... Ice weak
rotund oasis
Is there stat drops in the start
Dont think so but they have bedazzle 2 and double drop
dim lance
rotund oasis
The sides do.
dim lance
I had some poor RNG
bright python
rose
bright python
but like
dim lance
bright python
rose
dim lance
also, Dana is like
bright python
honestly
agile wave
Waiting for that Poppy clear
dim lance
I personally do have doubts that
twin pasture
but I did it with only *one* weather and *two* zones
Did you override Dana’s Ice Zone at 100% or 80%?
dim lance
steel brutes this?
dim lance
Did you override Dana’s Ice Zone at 100% or 80%?
100 and 80, and finished at 30%
twin pasture
I’m trying for an Arc Steven/New Anni Lillie/NC Silver clear
dim lance
if you don't, Steven will get oneshotted
opaque dagger
she took so long before she got hyper beam lol
Colress 
bright python
Colress <:DrasnaDeathStare:1148494373168877619>
imagine a UB where you can colress strat
bright python
that would be so funny
dim lance
everyone's using Cynthia
rain sorrel
I mean, it requires Weather and Zone change
dim lance
Yeah, except I only used two rounds of zone and still got it, lol
formal matrix
Time to be creative and start Lisia gaming 
dim lance
rather than 3
onyx cedar
of course, using op units
onyx cedar
wonder how"low" it can be done
dim lance
post expansion
bright python
honestly
orchid bridge
"Not really that hard, just use a team of 5/5 Arc suit"
bright python
imagine a 5/5 anni steven clear
dim lance
Maybe some courtney comp can work, idk
rotund oasis
5/5 arc steven? Really D;
dim lance
I can do that now, technically
bright python
prove it
orchid bridge
Me waiting for a SS Mina clear because I don't have Steven
bright python
then i will tell dark to pin it in the channel
dim lance
aight, gimme a sec
rotund oasis
Time to be creative and start Lisia gaming <:LisiaPop:761251906311290911>
Shes fairy weak right.... Hum maybe
rain sorrel
Is your Steven 1/5?
bright python
use anything, but I want my anni steven clear
dim lance
because if I use it with arc steven I'm gonna get called hard carried
orchid bridge
SS Mina please I only have her
bright python
isn't she like the ahrdest UB
orchid bridge
why does DeNA keep making these Chatelaine UB so strong
bright python
also if you manage to kill the side abomasnow, she basically only has one weather?
dark dust
Yep
bright python
why does DeNA keep making these Chatelaine UB so strong
two of them are hard UBs and the other two are among the hardest
formal matrix
Wait what defog doesn’t remove weather
bright python
anni steven is funnier
dim lance
especially if I'm using Mina or Kris
Anni Steven mandates Mina anyway
because my guess is he explodes
but I can test it, I suppose
sturdy egret
how much weather is she setting
bright python
one on entry and one more if you cant kill obomasnow
jaunty light
bright python
abomasnow
jaunty light
117k hp regen on missing a move
rotund oasis
one on entry and one more if you cant kill obomasnow
Rip.
jaunty light
misslyndis save us
alpine quiver
next time…
yup
idk if I should just use the clear or at least try and swap Oak
I feel like I'm in a bit of a tight spot since the stage gimmick is very specific
Wow
alpine quiver
misslyndis save us
that's funny
I just popped in here because I cleared Dana. That's a hell of a coincidence
jaunty light
save us 
alpine quiver
the Gio fight?
plush gale
Giovanni Rd.1 https://youtube.com/shorts/m0tudlP9Z8c?feature=share
alpine quiver
I used Arc Steven, Anni 2 Lillie, and Arc Cyn
jaunty light
high move levels on the arc suits?
alpine quiver
3/5
jaunty light
aww man only my steven is 1/5
rotund oasis
I used Arc Steven, Anni 2 Lillie, and Arc Cyn
Replay?
golden steppe
If only I had Arc Cynthia 
alpine quiver
I'll see if I can swap him for NC Blue. I'm just a bit worried since he's Ice-weak. I'm gonna work on thumbnail stuff on my end, first!
I literally beat Dana like five minutes ago
jaunty light
rotund oasis
Ill wait for ya
exotic dome
I went with gio so he could eat all the sync Cynthia was weak to
jaunty light
technically nc blue can work if paralysis hits alot 
exotic dome
Bad timing gio had a sync with ice zone up
rotund oasis
I went with gio so he could eat all the sync Cynthia was weak to <:TabithaHehe:9...
With his exr?
exotic dome
Not needed, I have dust kicker on Cynthia
rotund oasis
Ah hrm
alpine quiver
I had to use Anni 2 Lillie because I don't have Dust Kicker on Arc Cyn, lmao
rotund oasis
Can wait for the 3R arc cynthia clear but i can 5R her in a few days
agile wave
2nd try 
alpine quiver
SAME
dim lance
Skyla/Steven can do it pretty easily
egg on my face here
I can do it
but it
requires a lot of MPR
Kris/Lysandre just has it easier tbh
mostly because Lysandre's sync isn't shit
no MPR stress also
but yeah, a lot of MPR is needed
halcyon wagon
i'm wondering who could i use for my 3rd bc i dont have arc suit cynthia
rain sorrel
SS Mina counters it too
dim lance
your Skyla being superawakened also helps I guess
alpine quiver
uploading Dana's clear
now, I gotta shift my focus to that Gio fight
formal matrix
Arc duo + SS stove because I’m simp
rich heron
I have no arc units
alpine quiver
twin pasture
For those without Arc Cynthia, 3/5 SS Mina also works (but alongside 4/5 EXR Arc Steven and 3/5 EXR SS Lear)
Mina is not EXR’d here; make sure to time her syncs so that no one eats an Ice Zone-boosted attack
rich heron
All whales using arc units
alpine quiver
we call that "whale watching"
rich heron
onyx cedar
twin pasture
The men of the Pequod have it out for me
rich heron
Any f2p run?
alpine quiver
for Dana?
twin pasture
Any f2p run?
Sadly, those are a rarity for UBs in general
alpine quiver
do any even exist?
twin pasture
I think only 1 or 2 have them (Argenta for sure)
valid raft
If only Defog can clear weather
twin pasture
Wait, did any weather effect override the Sinnoh overworld fog in battle?
golden steppe
For those without Arc Cynthia, 3/5 SS Mina also works (but alongside 4/5 EXR Arc...
Hmm seems like I’ll have to wait then, I have like 8 support candy coins before I can get Mina 3/5
alpine quiver
dim lance
dim lance
Time to be creative and start Lisia gaming <:LisiaPop:761251906311290911>
as you wish
alpine quiver
nice!
dim lance
it was actually easier than the Lillie variant
People need to stop underestimating waifu
especially post expac
DG on the taunt is actually really big
ngl
dim lance
She can do a couple, just that she's hard carried essentially
formal matrix
I think arc duo can duo this
dim lance
without exploding? maybe not
formal matrix
I just do t have an optimal gear but it is possible
dim lance
but we'll see
gentle wharf
Tempted to use SSSteven for laughs lol
golden steppe
How far a 2/5 SS Mina with Lear team went
severe cloud
You need 3/5 Mina that isn’t even up for discussion
bright python
guzzlord carry frfr
golden steppe
You need 3/5 Mina that isn’t even up for discussion
Yeah I know I just wanted to test it out
sturdy egret
i’m going again
bitter lance
I wonder is it possible to subsitute sygna suit lear with ny poppy for this UB ?
golden steppe
Personally, I don’t think so
bright python
i think it might not be possible still
severe cloud
bitter lance
Okay then is there any list of pair viable for this UB maybe i might have it ?
severe cloud
It’s been an hour
bitter lance
Fair enugh
severe cloud
I’m also coming to conclusion that this stage isn’t possible without at least 1 Arc Unit
You need either Steven, Cynthia, or both.
bitter lance
I mean i do have arc cynthia and arc steven it just idk which to slot for 3rd pair
severe cloud
SS Mina
bitter lance
Should i slot guzzvani ?
alpine quiver
I feel like throwing up
I almost did it
severe cloud
Yes
rich heron
I mean I do have mfs
bright python
and i submit to you
gentle wharf
bright python
your own spelling error
bitter lance
How about the arc cynthia does it also need to be 3/5 ?
gentle wharf
Nah that’s what I call HWITCHES
fossil fjord
Nice! That's the team I was planning to use too 
severe cloud
Basic requirements for this stage are:
- Clear Hail on Entry/Turn 1
- Clear Ice Zone 3 times
- Do enough damage to actually kill the stage
- Be able to survive syncs (if you can’t do enough initial damage)
- Impervious/Acuity on all units (or piercing gaze)
alpine quiver
gotcha
Arc Lance
bitter lance
Oh this stage lower accuracy damn
rich heron
I hate accuracy stuff
bitter lance
Tf
gentle wharf
Yeah every hit the enemies do lowers Accuracy
rich heron
Bruh
gentle wharf
And they love to do Blizzard and Earthquake
alpine quiver
she said "oh, you thought my oldest sister was bad?"
rich heron
Impervious
gentle wharf
To hit everyone lol
rich heron
Aoe move spam tf
severe cloud
Unironically 10/5 Steven actually came in so clutch for this stage
Sometimes I love being stupid with my recourses
rich heron
NC silver?
severe cloud
I don’t have him
gentle wharf
Ooh what does 10/5 Steven get
alpine quiver
I wanted to use Arc Steven, Steven, and Arc Cyn. But, I didn't have anything for that third zone
severe cloud
Ooh what does 10/5 Steven get
Hella damage
bright python
Basic requirements for this stage are:
- Clear Hail on Entry/Turn 1
- Clear Ice ...
Basic requirements for this stage are:
- Clear Hail on Entry/Turn 1
- Clear Ice Zone 3 times
- Do enough damage to actually kill the stage
- Be able to survive syncs (if you can’t do enough initial damage)
- Impervious/Acuity on all units
- Be an arc suit
- Be next to ASS and ASC
- Don't die
- Don't be Marlon
- Never miss
- Get a watermelon in Suika Game
- Be able to recite the Bible in Japanese
- Make a video in #poma-photo-creator
severe cloud
gentle wharf
Oh nice
severe cloud
And the 1.43x move damage helped an incredible amount
gentle wharf
I wanted to use Arc Steven, Steven, and Arc Cyn. But, I didn't have anything for...
I had dust kicker and Dana did her final zone when I synced which Cynthia immediately replaced with her own lol
bitter lance
Damn
rustic wolf
Dust Kicker go brrr
paper mural
You can use Rose so dont need ArcC, but still ArcS is basically required.
stable tundra
i don't have SS Mina or Arc Cynthia so i'm screwed
bright python
the true question is can i get everyone to agree and burn the guy in the stake who said that
"she's not (the hardest UB)
not by a long shot"
gentle wharf
Do all clears so far have them?