Think it might be my support but idk
#Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles
arctic nest
arctic nest
Apparently it isn't, might need to Grid Lana better it seems?
Get in two uses of Wide Guard?
gentle wharf
Yeah the more uses of Wide Guard you have the more room for error you got
arctic nest
Neat
rich heron
Dana is steel weak?
paper mural
Main Steel weak, but one or both of the side(s) is rock weak.
paper mural
- Regiice + these 2.
rich heron
Oh
paper mural
Btw one of hp in this doc is wrong.
Datamine said Aurorus has way less HP (281050), so I assumed Aurorus is the Rock weak one but Abomasnow is still Steel weak.
stable tundra
so the sandstorm setter must have acuity to deal with accuracy drops right
stable storm
so the sandstorm setter must have acuity to deal with accuracy drops right
the units facing dana need to be immune to accuracy drops yeh
stable tundra
Arc Steven + Anni Lillie stonks
wait they only have 2 instances of zone
hopefully they can deal with 30% HP remaining
stable storm
wait they only have 2 instances of zone
whose the weather changer
stable storm
can you please turn off the ping
no better weather changer?idk if sillie can solo dps through dana with ASS and ingo
stable tundra
stable storm
dana has too much hp
stable tundra
most of my weather setters are support or nuke dependent tech 
stable storm
most of my weather setters are support or nuke dependent tech <:AcerolaPensive:6...
it's fine as long as the support can aid in boosting damage
jaunty light
maybe if i ex role irida..
stable tundra
it's fine as long as the support can aid in boosting damage
so Arc Steven, Anni Lillie and Anni Raihan might be possible
lone bramble
How badly does AS Steven need 4/5 for Nemona? Trying to clear with Bianca and Olympia and I keep dying with 1 side remaining at ~20%. They do way too much damage post sync.
Or does he need 5/5?
stable storm
How badly does AS Steven need 4/5 for Nemona? Trying to clear with Bianca and Ol...
I think ASS requires 4/5 for that clear
god gear might be enough tho
lone bramble
What stats do I aim for? Currently running +100 sp atk gear
gentle wharf
Wait the sides for Dana aren’t Steel weak? Weird
dim lance
yeah, this guy is a freaking masochist
he wants to clear all UBs with the rule of not being able to use the same unit after its cleared something else
paper mural
UB Gauntlet?
dim lance
UB CS, UB gauntlet
whatever you wanna call it
lol
probably gauntlet since it's a whole round
paper mural
It's inevitable for us one day as well /k
snow spruce
he wants to clear all UBs with the rule of not being able to use the same unit a...
oh so thats it. I saw it, but didnt really understand what the "theme" of those clears was
snow spruce
Since he already used up ASC , i hope that he knows to save SS Mina for Dana hehe
dim lance
he has 9 more to go
he doesn't know Dana exists yet
lol
- he already used Mina afaik
or did he not
against Thorton, yeah
he did
snow spruce
oh yeah
F
well he can still use Steel team + some weather setter support for Dana
or maybe full Rock team with SS Diantha and sandstorm
paper mural
Just watching - he used Mina in Thorton (tbf a little wasted?)
raven nacelle
Need help with Focus On The Shining Shot
Why was my lvl 140 EX unit doing 2k dmg??
I used SSSerena
Do I have to use a bug type as dps??
rotund oasis
Need help with Focus On The Shining Shot
Why was my lvl 140 EX unit doing 2k dmg...
U need to debuff whitney
If you let them stack stat buffs, shell become immune to damage
Also, if you let her stack sp.atk, she will hit harder
rotund oasis
The sides will require a status condition
raven nacelle
So am I not supposed to kill the sides? The sync kills the sides.
rotund oasis
She has 23k hp, so with a really good debuffer, should be good
raven nacelle
She has 23k hp, so with a really good debuffer, should be good
These my bug units.
Off type would be better I suppose?
raven nacelle
I was also trying to do kalos and 1bug/1grass mission.
rotund oasis
So its best to use someone like NC Leaf
raven nacelle
stat debuff means reducing def and stuff?
rotund oasis
I was also trying to do kalos and 1bug/1grass mission.
Just do separate teams for eaxh
rotund oasis
stat debuff means reducing def and stuff?
Yep
raven nacelle
These my bug units.
Any of these for for bug/grass thingy?
rotund oasis
Viola could work, she debuffs sp.atk. bug and kalos
raven nacelle
But she a tech. Squishy
rotund oasis
Depends on your tank
raven nacelle
Are there tanks that mitigate dmg?
rotund oasis
Again, you can do separate teams
paper mural
What's your support roaster?
raven nacelle
Kalos
raven nacelle
What's your support roaster?
Gimme a sec
raven nacelle
What's your support roaster?
raven nacelle
Like NC Leaf ?
Don't have her.
Only debuffer I use was girafrig LOL
Should I show tech units??
nvm way too many tech units. How do I filter?
I got SSGladeon, NC Hop ---- These are 1/5
SC Irida ------ She is 3/5 EX
Sooo possible to clear?
raven nacelle
Using 2 bugs kinda redundant don't ya think?
raven nacelle
+ sycamore
Sycamore the goat.
Sadly mine ain't EX
I can try to do the Kalos one. What I got problem with is the grass/bug thing coz my bugs are weak af
rotund oasis
Viola for sp.atk debuff and leering Tierno. Then a grass nuker, like Brendan
Gauge might be itchy but brendan should be able to keep up his dps
paper mural
I'll try later but SS Leaf is a good debuffer, so I want to try team with her.
raven nacelle
My Brendan is 2/5. I don't think he got sync tiles.
rotund oasis
Oh ss leaf is also pretty good
paper mural
I'll use her only debuff and striker with someome else.
rotund oasis
Hrm well 23k hp should be possible.... The sides have 6k hp iirc.
raven nacelle
So keep spamming Razor Leaf?
rotund oasis
Might have to ex for tierno for ex sup
raven nacelle
So I can't do it?? My Tierno is lvl 1 I'm pretty sure...
rotund oasis
Hes just there to drop enemy def. Could also run Sycamore if youre running ss leaf.
paper mural
Also you really should pull NC Blue like right now
raven nacelle
Okkkay so, SSLeaf, Viola, ???
stable storm
he wants to clear all UBs with the rule of not being able to use the same unit a...
seems pretty possible imo
raven nacelle
Also you really should pull NC Blue like right now<:WeezingLFG:92092055816466439...
I pulled NC Red thinking he's the best 
Trynna get gems for Blue
paper mural
NC Blue >>> NC Leaf >= NC Red.
stable storm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTKNAcfOWbs
wonder if someone from this server with most units at decent investment would wanna do this
raven nacelle
Well shit. Can't do anything now xD
And I wasted like 30k+ pulling on random banners last month (didnt even get anything)
Then went on a break
rotund oasis
Im gonna try ss leaf and viola ex
raven nacelle
Im gonna try ss leaf and viola ex
SS Leaf the dps?
stable storm
Im gonna try ss leaf and viola ex
for who
rotund oasis
SS Leaf the dps?
Synced with sycamore first, then ss leaf
My ss leaf is exd and grid is built for 2/5
Your goal is to tank the giga impacts your opponent uses.
For viola grid. Could be better.
rotund oasis
Cool o.o
paper mural
raven nacelle
viola didnt take any dmg somehow.
paper mural
Oh 1 min late.
raven nacelle
Yeah. I was expecting her to die by like turn 2
And I didnt even use any potions. The only reason I lost during earlier tries was coz of the buffs I think.
fading walrus
he wants to clear all UBs with the rule of not being able to use the same unit a...
That...doesn't sound too bad for a whale
fading walrus
Meta puller?
Same thing really
Feel like with a diversified well invested roster its not that bad
Which isn't that hard to have
The real struggle would be supports for stuff like nemona/Royale/nita/Dana/leon
Because you get 2 get out of jail cards out of 4 very oppressive early games
warm haven
UB CS, UB gauntlet
Spoiler of the new mode
gentle wharf
Bro used up his meta units already and Dana’s coming up lol
Hmm
Does this mean he might need to restart each month haha
stable storm
The real struggle would be supports for stuff like nemona/Royale/nita/Dana/leon
I feel like nemo isn't hard to tank with 2 good psychic units to quickly finish her that you probably won't use elsewhere anyways
fast pendant
it shouldn't be that hard if it's well planned, but like, he trolled a lot with the teams already
extremely overkill on darach and thorton
arc cynthia used on anabel already
fading walrus
I feel like nemo isn't hard to tank with 2 good psychic units to quickly finish ...
Like who
stable storm
nc rosa ss lana, SSS/Lear should defeat nemo without using too common units
fading walrus
Nc rosa is still a very good support you could use elsewhere
fast pendant
Bianca, Lusamine and a confusion supp would do fine
stable storm
Any double rebuff/confusion tanky support should work
fading walrus
Bianca, Lusamine and a confusion supp would do fine
Yeah thats more like it
fast pendant
lussa has no real use outside of nemona anyway
fading walrus
I forgot lussa existed
She's the easiest unit to clear with imo
stable storm
Nemo wouldn't be a big hurdle in this challenge
stable storm
She's the easiest unit to clear with imo
fair
snow spruce
A monthly mode/event where you have to beat 3-5 UBs without reusing units would be good.
stable storm
lussa has no real use outside of nemona anyway
Sad
fading walrus
A monthly mode/event where you have to beat 3-5 UBs without reusing units would ...
3 would be fine
stable storm
A monthly mode/event where you have to beat 3-5 UBs without reusing units would ...
do you like pain.
fading walrus
5...yuck
stable storm
what would be the rewards anyways
snow spruce
SA candies
fading walrus
Just make the rewards mats like 1 extra coin per role
stable storm
imagine a rotation with dana anabel and nita
fading walrus
Or some Yellow coins
stable storm
SA candies
5 10/5 candies
snow spruce
imagine a rotation with dana anabel and nita
Irida-Red for Nita, ASC for Dana, anything with weather+any debuffs for Anabel
I dont think Anabel is anything too special anymore as far as UB difficulty goes
fading walrus
Yeah Anabel has some more answers noe
stable storm
still that rotation would be pain for most players
fading walrus
She's still ass to beat tho
Because you need some form of synergy within Sand, hail or Rain teams
And well, hail has limited good units and Sand has limited debuffing
stable storm
imagine Leon+ Dana+Nita
fading walrus
imagine Leon+ Dana+Nita
Eh
stable storm
I don't like Leon in general tbh
snow spruce
Anabel has high HP, but her sides are only 170K or so
the last UBs all have had very fat sides, Nemona and Dana especially have sides ~2,5-3x fatter than Anabels.
Her near 1M center HP is not as bad when the sides are thin
yeah Leon is still my least favorite UB
gentle wharf
As far as my rosters go, I’ll be screwed if the 3 UBs all require my Arc Steven for support lol
Surprisingly enough some of the hardest ones are unique unit clears so they’re fine lol
Like Anabel and Leon my clears use units I never use anywhere else
But both Lucy and Giovanni I used Foxanne for example
low coral
he wants to clear all UBs with the rule of not being able to use the same unit a...
It doesn't really sound bad, but I assume it's also going off-type by the clears
As you would otherwise just throw Leaf on Thorton, Irida on Nita, Oleana on Masked, etc.
dim lance
Yeah, just interesting that no one tried it yet
prime flare
how easy is it to offtype anabel
fading walrus
Not much with the right units
prime flare
any suggestions? 
fading walrus
Nc silver + phys striker
Nc Red + irida
Invested anni rahian + a good enough special striker
Irida + a good enough special striker
drowsy berry
Finally beat the last 5 UBs I was pending due to work, and surprisingly I had the perfect team for Morgan's 
- Arc Steven with Downside Up in one of his innate passives
- NC Nate with Impervious in grid
- Leon (Alt.) with Impervious as innate passive
bright python
you have the intended unit
spark kraken
Any recommendations on beating Leon, Nita, Palmer and masked royal? They’re the only ones I haven’t beat yet (I also don’t have nc blue yet along with any rats)
fervent mulch
Have you checked the doc and seeing if there are any clears with pairs that can get you the clear and trying to fill in blanks with other units
spark kraken
There’s a doc?
fervent mulch
Pins
spark kraken
I’ve been literally trial and erroring with all the other ultimate challenges 💀💀
fervent mulch
That’s good too
fervent mulch
What do you mean
spark kraken
The only fighting I have is Bianca and riley
spark kraken
What do you mean
Like building up sync buffs and other buffs
stable tundra
i recommend checking the pinned docs for team examples and ideas, like Pichu suggested earlier
there are some teams involving both Bianca and Riley
but they are likely to require exact investments
fervent mulch
I’m still not really sure I follow, because you don’t really build toward sync buffs, there’s teams that naturally get a lot of sync buffs because the units on them have sprint exr for example sslear and AnniLillie (alt). On the other hand other buffs are typically just by supports.
fervent mulch
Like building up sync buffs and other buffs
Like what are you looking for in terms of “other buffs” it really depends on the damage dealer or whoever else you’re using aka falling into team building
spark kraken
Thanks thanks, but rn I don’t really know what alternatives I can use when it comes to Palmer
Most people use rei (which I don’t have) or hop
This is the closest i got to beating Palmer
Using this team
fervent mulch
If you could record what you do that would help
This seems like it can be done but 3/5 Bianca will make a. Pretty big difference
As well as any exr’s on them
stable tundra
without Hop or Cynthia, 2/5 Bianca will struggle a lot yeah
spark kraken
It’s a tad annoying that I have to heavily invest in some units if I wanna beat stages like masked royal if I don’t have geeta
fervent mulch
That’s simply the nature of UB’s they’re meant to be difficult battles that require investment
They wouldn’t be ultimate battles if they were easy I’m afraid
fervent mulch
I’m sure NcBlue is a pair you would’ve pulled for regardless, because I hope you’re not pulling for units specifically to
Clear Ub’s
spark kraken
That’s fair, a lot of people told me that ncblue is the best support by far in the game that requires minimal investment
Just hoping I get to beat a UB or two using him
fervent mulch
I would disagree with that statement as for Ub’s he really appreciated having his satisfied snarl and atk debuffing passive
Because pulling a unit for a UB can be 36.6k for 300 gems
stable tundra
yeah almost everyone wants investments for UB specifically
spark kraken
Fair fair, I’m just trying to beat all stages in UB so I can primarily focus on enjoying the game without being bothered by the unfinished stages
I’ve spent like almost 2 months only investing in AS Steven
cosmic token
I've been trying to figure out that UB Nolad Team that used SC Selene, SS Lear and Arc Steven.
stable storm
I've been trying to figure out that UB Nolad Team that used SC Selene, SS Lear a...
does it have a vid or only a pic
cosmic token
does it have a vid or only a pic
There's no info at all. I saw it in the in game's clears but it got replaced and I can't find any clears.
stable storm
oh one minute, I think I can find a similar in theory clear
cosmic token
It's his stupid Earthquake.
I get SC Selene uses Initial Guard to block Fissure and Head Start Skills but I'm still not getting kills needed.
I think it's kind of similar to the Paulo one.
marble portal
so for Dana I prob need SC Selene and AS Steven?
Selene’s my best zone setter and her B can’t miss
idk who my third would be, cuz ik I need to switch weather
stable storm
so for Dana I prob need SC Selene and AS Steven?
do you have nc silver
marble portal
nope
skipped him
was thinking SS Morty but don’t have him 5/5 for Sunburst
only have him at 4
apparently these are all my non hail weathers
could always run Acuity Morty?
stable storm
apparently these are all my non hail weathers
I wouldn't suggest using the in game filter
it's kinda shit
marble portal
fair enough
stable storm
doesn't include passives
marble portal
uh does the tracker do better
stable storm
you could filter on tracker
marble portal
cool, lemme get that
plucky swanBOT
Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button
marble portal
gotcha, will get that in a sec
I only use that on my laptop and for some reason my wifi crashed there
marble portal
Grass is just something I want a bit stronger in general
tho VHop I think is better than Adaman?
anyway back to the matter at hand, what shall I do
arctic nest
Just have Nita/Nemona/Noland left
I forget some of my pass clears, wish I had the ability to revisit them
marble portal
Noland's def the easiest of them there.
there's 3 clears on the sheet that don't use any limiteds
arctic nest
Yeah I saw a bunch of Fly Dodging it seems
marble portal
Falkner/Lana/Blue
Lusamine/Lana/lodge Skyla
Lusamine/Lana/Blue
marble portal
well it does seem to be a case of "Lana/Falkner/any competent Flying striker"
yeah Cheren can do it 1/5
idk what level yours is but having him is def enough
arctic nest
Will maybe try again, I forget what I kept doing wrong
marble portal
Noland alternates his damaging moves, keep that in mind
stable storm
2/5 gives nothing
yeah it's the strongest side in terms of raw stats iirc
stable storm
tho VHop I think is better than Adaman?
no
marble portal
ah, thought Hop was
anyway, think my safest bet is Acuity SS Morty?
Dana doesn't look too problematic beyond that massive HP
also checking the sheet, is Abomasnow using Hail just once after Dana KO an error
cosmic token
Nevermind I just destroyed him.
Ash showing why he’s still got some fight in him.
golden steppe
Ohh yeah Ash has that one instance of Damage Guard
arctic nest
Oh am I not suppose to KO the Sides before he gets to Second Sync?
cosmic token
Ohh yeah Ash has that one instance of Damage Guard
It's imparative that Noland lights up for Sync first before Ash and Red set their Damage Guard moves.
arctic nest
Or am I suppose to have Second Wide Guard Proc?
Definitely need a second wide guard lol
true tiger
Where can I find clears for ebe using only f2p + nc blue
golden steppe
Lyndis has a F2P Clear on her channel
You can probably just replace Blaine with NC Blue
true tiger
The method works for both stages right?
Eh nvm I will figure something else out my units aren't that invested
Perhaps glorialt and nc blue can carry
golden steppe
Definitely not, Gloria Alt will get demolished with just a swift or poison wave
alpine quiver
The method works for both stages right?
Yes!
true tiger
Definitely not, Gloria Alt will get demolished with just a swift or poison wave
Oh it's a kanto buff I didn't see
Not having ex will be a problem
alpine quiver
Only masked royal left
You're on a roll! Keep it up ^^
fringe stratus
Thanks! Finally decided to candy leaf and she def pulled her weight
alpine quiver
She's very worth it
alpine quiver
NC Blue with really any DPS is an instant win
onyx cedar
Blue, Blue and Not Blue
small vault
Blue, Blue, and Japanese Blue 
gentle wharf
Down to Nita and Nemo.
Oh hey that’s my exact team
true tiger
NC Blue with really any DPS is an instant win
so basically just do whatever lol?
as long as its kanto
i used him in some other battle challenges
and wow
he even made will useful 💀
and gladion even at 1/5
fading walrus
Me when the Battle made for the unit
Loses to the unit
compact crest
Cleared yay
compact crest
Blue, Blue, and Japanese Blue <:megumin:958995996396883968>
In my case blue , blue and red (not blue) too
alpine quiver
so basically just do whatever lol?
as long as its kanto
basically
Kanto units have a 4 or 5x (I'm unsure which) multiplier
valid raft
basically
Kanto units have a 4 or 5x (I'm unsure which) multiplier
EBs always give x5 bonus to the respective themes
alpine quiver
gotcha
cosmic token
Oh hey that’s my exact team
If yours was the listed one then I hijacked it.
true tiger
basically
Kanto units have a 4 or 5x (I'm unsure which) multiplier
Well the second one is cooking me, will try again when I get nc red
alpine quiver
what is your Kanto roster looking like?
true tiger
alpine quiver
oh, yeah... that's a bit tough...
fading walrus
Ah, no EX mewtwo, rough
alpine quiver
aren't its power-ups in the legendary adventure?
paper mural
Can Oak get 5/5 without candy? If yes it's possible to use him as dmg dealer.
marble portal
1/5 VHop 1/5 Adaman 3/5 Eri for Argenta
true tiger
aren't its power-ups in the legendary adventure?
Yea but u need pair specific champion spirits
fading walrus
aren't its power-ups in the legendary adventure?
Ex is event rerun locked
alpine quiver
Oof
alpine quiver
Maybe Adaman is kinda cracked...
fading walrus
He's not, it's Steven Who is
If he can 2v3 with SS ace
Steven can definitely do just as well
If not better
opaque dagger
There's lodge dawn, og rosa (and 8 more) adaman duos
And ASS has another 9 duos
They're both busted for argenta
shrewd marten
Maybe Adaman *is* kinda cracked...
No way the stage designed for him can be beaten easily by him
Like nc leaf being able to duo thorton with ssmorty is like decently impressive but doesn’t show much about the unit
fading walrus
No way the stage designed for him can be beaten easily by him
Me whenever i see rei in any palmer clear
shrewd marten
Ok but argenta is like double easy
alpine quiver
No way the stage designed for him can be beaten easily by him
Crazy, I know!
I got him to 3/5 recently, so I wanted to try him at full power, ok? 😭
shrewd marten
Fair enough
opaque dagger
gentle wharf
That’s an odd team lol
opaque dagger
ty
Fall Roxanne handles fluid fortification by herself if you wait for them to buff sp.def and sp.atk
And kabu gets 72% fire dr with rebuffs+fire guard
onyx cedar
yeh lol
dim lance
<:RoxanneRockit:1162691017938583562>
Cooking
tepid perch
Finally beat this UB 🙂
gentle wharf
Huh double support
arctic nest
Noland down, just needed to play for the second Wide Guard
It was kinda annoying though, probably my least favourite of the stages cleared so far.
dark dust
Just to confirm: Evelyn doesn't clear rebuff right
stable storm
Just to confirm: Evelyn doesn't clear rebuff right
nope
dark dust
Okay thanks
fading walrus
It was kinda annoying though, probably my least favourite of the stages cleared ...
Meanwhile he's probably my fave
Because it's not about p2w strats
stable storm
Noland is the most well designed ub
elfin valve
@stable tundra sorry to pin - is the Leon UB clear with NC Blue, SST Red + SS Hau (1/5) in the UB clears doc yours? Trying to accomplish it and wondering if I need** Mind Games 2 on NC Blue? (Don’t have lux cookies atm)
stable tundra
Yes that's my clear
I think MG is not needed
You can make up for spdef debuffs by rolling for better skill gears
elfin valve
Oooh nice. Any advice to roll? I’ve never really gone for skill gears
Is it super needed or do you think I can do with just the type gears?
mental jasper
That clear actually has no relevant Mind Games procs from Blue, it only procs when the enemy is at -5 spdef already and Red is queueing after Hau is for -6. Fixing that queue order means you can get away without MG (also field EXR on Red would help if you have it)
arctic nest
Noland is the most well designed ub
In the sense that it’s very clear what you need to do? Yeah, probably. It’s very flowcharty for me.
elfin valve
That clear actually has no relevant Mind Games procs from Blue, it only procs wh...
Yes they all have their EXR! I’ll keep trying then. I didn’t want to go full out since I didn’t have MG. What’s a good alternative lucky skill here? (gakon has blue with gridded Vigilance, but I can do an alt)
mental jasper
You could always go Vigilance and grid for Synchro Healing instead
Otherwise, Fire Guard actually has its merits here
elfin valve
Awesome TY! And yes you’re right fire guard would lowkey be clutch
This battle would be a lot easier if I could 3/5 Hau hahaha
stable storm
suprised there no ss hau chase nc blue clear on Leon
mental jasper
I could fix that… remind me in like 7 hours unless there’s a bot here that can do that for me
stable storm
I could fix that… remind me in like 7 hours unless there’s a bot here that can d...
I was gonna do that once my nc blue is 3/5 as I wanted to do Leon the proper way finally. Would be nice if someone did the clear for me to copy later on
iono ss hau nc blue got a clear before chase ss hau nc blue
mental jasper
Yeah I have that full team 3/5 (surprising, I know) so I can experiment with it. Will give me something to do while my Palworld background tasks advance lol
lusty moat
I gave it a try not knowing it was possible . I did it on 2nd try it was just like argenta . Main things was sandstorm and trapped . Yipee
fading walrus
Bertha does super carry vs him yes
lusty moat
I am thankful for gems cuz I don't have enough to pity nc blue
fading walrus
You should not pull on him if you can't reach 36k by 24 january
lusty moat
i will purchase gems if i dont get him in non paid
lusty moat
Or I can just hope I will get lucky at the new year gem present thingy
white ledge
thorton and argenta down
stable storm
Yeah I have that full team 3/5 (surprising, I know) so I can experiment with it....
how did it go
misty latch
Any ultimate battles I can complete without upgrading move levels?
gentle wharf
Looking at your electric roster, maybe Leon
But not sure how good 2/5 chase is
Oh hey you got Arc Steven nice. Could work?
bright python
Any ultimate battles I can complete without upgrading move levels?
"any UBs can i complete without upgrading move levels
also this guy: has like high move levels on a shitton of pairs
I think the bigger question is: What UBs have you NOT completed?
from there i can tell you which ones you could do
stable storm
Any ultimate battles I can complete without upgrading move levels?
It's a bit hard to see every pair properly but have you first checked the ub clear sheet and see what clears you can replicate?
fervent mulch
"any UBs can i complete without upgrading move levels
also this guy: has like hi...
That’s not really the proper attitude to attack this situation with especially because they have a lot more limiteds at 1/5 than 3/5.
bright python
"attack" this situation?
fervent mulch
Any ultimate battles I can complete without upgrading move levels?
I’d check the doc out and see which pairs you have are suitable for the stage with your move levels.
I see a thorton clear in your roster but Im afraid for other Ub’s you may struggle to find clears that don’t rely on move levels for clears from your limited roster
bright python
He definitely can clear leon as well
I think he might be able to clear Giovanni
Morgan is also a yes
stable storm
I’d check the doc out and see which pairs you have are suitable for the stage wi...
from what I can see, other than ss morty there's no proper generalist support and they are Miss the core supports for a lot of types. They have the core dd and enabler for a lot tho
bright python
I would argue that ass is the generalist support but yeah they don't have the core supports like nc blue
stable storm
oh my bad I didn't see ASS
fervent mulch
ArcSteven wants 4/5 pretty badly for Ub’s no?
stable storm
yeh
bright python
Not necessarily for some personally
stable storm
for some 1/5 ASS is fine
stable storm
not for all but for some yeh
bright python
the iffy part is when it comes to a few ones like palmer
stable storm
@misty latch for giovanni you can try ss morty ss misty and nc serena but the clear will be very rng
I am surprised by how many units are 2/5 tho
could you please say why so many units are 2/5 if you don't mind
fervent mulch
"attack" this situation?
They’re asking for help and saying “what ubs you haven’t cleared” is not helpful thing to say to someone looking for assistance it’ll turn someone away At best
bright python
I'm asking what UBs they haven't cleared so I know specifically what to help them with
fervent mulch
I’m going to assume they haven’t done any based on their phrasing
bright python
well I don't know for certain, so I'm asking
if they say they haven't completed any of them I'll just give them clears for all the UBs
stable storm
@misty latch I assume you haven't done any ubs yet?lucy , noland, argenta(tho I think that clear might be impossible for you rn) and darach have clears with no limited units on the sheet
stable storm
I’m going to assume they haven’t done any based on their phrasing
oh you already said that my bad
fervent mulch
All good
stable storm
serena dahlia and maybe ss Cynthia aura or ASS(arc suit Steven) could do evelyn
Unsure about that one tho
sygna suit aura Cynthia or ASS, Ash and sygna suit red thunderbolt could do Leon
bright python
Or ASS Ash and SST Red
I think we would also ask them about the status of their Anni 2024 Lillie
It's 5/5 but with no EX or EXR (iirc the EX is free)
If they get it 5/5 EXR (also I think a list of EXR pairs would be helpful) I could see them doing a giovanni clear
misty latch
I’ve only completed Lucy and Leon and I just EX’d anni 24 lillie
misty latch
could you please say why so many units are 2/5 if you don't mind
I have a bunch most likely because I pulled 2 copies of the same character during the pull I unlocked them
raven wharf
Would this work?
wary hemlock
may i ask was there a point to do dmg challenge?
i find that after completing it for the gems for first time type battles , i dont see the point of those vouchers to exchange pretty mediocre units
paper mural
No. If you don't care those dc pair there's no reason for you to do it after getting all the gems.
mental jasper
how did it go
I didn’t get a ton of testing in, started resetting for Blue to get burned by Heat Wave so he’s not put to sleep by Struggle Bug but I think that’s probably just the wrong strat for the team
mental jasper
i find that after completing it for the gems for first time type battles , i don...
If you don’t go for the pairs, at least go for the orbs?
stable storm
I didn’t get a ton of testing in, started resetting for Blue to get burned by He...
et makes you sleep immune
also you could get status immunity if you have the cookies
mental jasper
terrain runs out right before sb, I have status immunity I just haven’t done runs with it yet since I got sucked into my multiplayer world
stable storm
ohhh fair
marble portal
not a conventional way to do it but it works I guess…?
fervent mulch
Peak
fallow charm
not a conventional way to do it but it works I guess…?
This happens a lot with Arc Steven, and it’s another reason why a tech nuker is totally fine because if mid is dead and can’t give sync boosts you can just stall like this
So your whole team can die and it doesn’t matter 💀
fading walrus
not a conventional way to do it but it works I guess…?
Most normal eri sustain
golden steppe
Seems like SSA Gio will be useful in UB’s with the sure Crit sync or just Crit in general
snow spruce
For the second enemy sync yes, but then afterwards the crit AoE moves will probably kill your dps anyway
You would need to either finish them very quick or the dps will need Vigilance anyway (which also counters the sync crit as well)
fading walrus
For the second enemy sync yes, but then afterwards the crit AoE moves will proba...
The thing is, if he runs vigi he can kinda delay stuff a fair bit if stage doesn't spam AoEs constantly and/or if you have stagger measures
And tbh in general makes triple vigi be even safer
Because you can neuter either 1/2 AoEs or Sync every cycle
dim lance
Also consider that after Endurance he also might just explode
if he tries to heal back with swallow at an inopportune time
fading walrus
Yeah absolutely
dim lance
Like, he can probably comfortably take some hits first sync, but past the second he'll get overwhelmed
taking a take all sync into a +0 hit on a second sync
is probably not the best idea without a max guard/stun to complement it
fading walrus
I feel like his optimal play is double support teams anyway
dim lance
But Endurance does up the leeway by a lot, so he can probably afford it
fading walrus
Yea
fading walrus
I feel like his optimal play is double support teams anyway
That or having a unit like oleana that keeps opponents -6
dim lance
What is validity of double support to you guys anyway
dim lance
That or having a unit like oleana that keeps opponents -6
at some point that doesn't save you
snow spruce
Is his '1st S-Move: Restore B-Move MP 1' even worth it?
Its both expensive on grid down there and you have to use up first heal before sync for it to work?
dim lance
Is his '1st S-Move: Restore B-Move MP 1' even worth it?
Its both expensive on gr...
don't take it tbh
he has better stuff to take and idt he uses swallow more than twice anyway
snow spruce
Without it he can only heal twice per fight
fading walrus
at some point that doesn't save you
It does if you also run another sustain unit
fading walrus
What is validity of double support to you guys anyway
I really like double/triple support clears
dim lance
Without it he can only heal twice per fight
He will rely on TSR most of the time to stay healthy, but Endurance to afford Swallow is imo more important
fading walrus
Much more than bland op supp / op nuker / op dps or enabler setups
dim lance
I feel clear speed also plays a part in whether you take it or not
if you clear before the second sync idt endurance does too much unless you fsr really get overwhelmed that early
@snow spruce but consider that unless Gio isn't syncing first
why would you even swallow early game
fading walrus
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/14004/79900?s=3&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFB...
What are you running as LS to feel like vigi is needed on default grid
dim lance
not much incentive to do that
dim lance
What are you running as LS to feel like vigi is needed on default grid
you can spec guard passives
for better surviability
or tech stuff like HS/Adren for complementary ramp
snow spruce
I feel like Gio might underperform on traditional 2 dps teams, but overperform on 2x-3x support teams?
dim lance
idt he has much else that's meaningful outside of Guarded Entry outside of that
dim lance
I feel like Gio might underperform on traditional 2 dps teams, but overperform o...
I think he can solo anchor just fine
just that you can't like, run a completely slow offensive force
fading walrus
I feel like Gio might underperform on traditional 2 dps teams, but overperform o...
Yeah i agree
Definitely gonna get some very fun clears
dim lance
double support is always a more secure path to UB winning provided your quality isn't that bad regardless
fading walrus
By overxtending for weaker pairs
dim lance
which is why I do wonder about validity and why it's not "as common"
fading walrus
Kinda like nc bianca can stagger to carry SS n
fading walrus
double support is always a more secure path to UB winning provided your quality ...
The fun point of double or trip support to me is either carrying a weaker dps or needing less investment overall
low coral
I really disagree double support is safer at all
It sometimes works, but most double support combos are hugely lacking in output and are gonna get KOed before they can KO the enemy
dim lance
Subject to again, what the comp is
and what pressure its against
You see some grind duos being a thing
low coral
Double support doesn't mean grind either, btw
dim lance
And again, unless you're bringing like some Valerie tier or lower offensive force
low coral
No, it doesn't need to be Valerie
The vast majority of damage dealers actually struggle to solo carry damage
dim lance
Yeah but then what's your threshold then
bugsy/Bianca/Chase has managed to grind
and idt you want to justify Bianca damage there
you see it with like DeoD + Arc Steven also
low coral
That question doesn't really make sense because the point isn't it being unviable
snow spruce
I think double support works well with infinite (or at least really long) sand/hail
Since the extra chip dmg every turn helps a bunch
dim lance
Now you're just herring it
because there is no real safety compromise with those comps
low coral
It's the misconception that it's always going to be a more secure path to winning UB
dim lance
because of the exponential scaling mech
I mean, if you're working with a lower offensive force, it always will be over optimizing say, WTZ conditions
if you're playing with broken bollocks worth of offensive pressure or counter gimmicks, your necessity for a backbone diminishes
low coral
And just the concept of double support being grind in general
When it's not necessarily
dim lance
Why do you get to decide what grind is tho
dim lance
You're calling it a misconception
dim lance
It's not, yes, but those two are also not backbone supports
Perhaps I should specify "double support" as more of the durability side
NY Raihan also adds this new dynamic of "double support", but rather than compounding on defenses he adds a check
low coral
Well, Raihan is basically playing as a Tech
dim lance
Also, what do you consider "grind" still stands
low coral
Since he's way more disrupting and barely supporting
dim lance
I consider Lysandre grind
mental jasper
Would “double tank” be a more accurate description? I feel like that would better get the point across that the supports are playing more of a bulk angle
dim lance
despite the fact that he usually kills early 2nd enemy sync with Skyla
because it is "slower" than your average broken fast comp
low coral
I wouldn't consider it, no
dim lance
Would “double tank” be a more accurate description? I feel like that would bette...
Kind of, but it also doesn't always cover some nuances
low coral
Maybe it's a bulky comp, but if it's Lysandre + Skyla, it has a very clearly defined offensive core slotted onto the team
dim lance
For instance, Iono, who is most commonly double or triple tanked but is also very much more of an offensive contributor
more than a backbone contributor
dim lance
Maybe it's a bulky comp, but if it's Lysandre + Skyla, it has a very clearly def...
it also relies more on durability facets to function despite its access to offensive pressure, because its output is simply weaker than your conventional leading comp nowadays
"grind" is also often correlated with lower offensive pressure
Then again, you could argue the very slow "offgimmick" stuff like statusless Leon to be a brand of 'grind'
low coral
I still wouldn't consider it
It's just a bulkier team that makes more uses of defensive tools
It's still bringing a dedicated offensive core to complement it
dim lance
So what is considered "grind"
if duration seems to not be decider
Nor is lower/below curve offensive pressure also decider
Grind already suggests 1 of 2 things or both, chiefly the backbone for games to last long to "grind", + offensive pressure not being high enough to kill fast
low coral
I mean, it's by structure
You're mixing power level with composition
Lysandre may not have the power level of someone like SS Hilda
But neither does Pryce
And no Pryce comp would be grind despite most of them being slower than Lysandre's
dim lance
Compositionally, you can have a very 'standardized' team of STS
but the team is also very slow
i don't see why how "grind" is limited to two defensive supports + abuser
especially when the abuser of choice can be a solocarry
dim lance
And no Pryce comp would be grind despite most of them being slower than Lysandre...
At the same time, in all likelihood double support + Pryce is probably going to be a more secure way to brute through gimmicks than say, an ice facilitator
low coral
Idk, you're going on a tirade on what it means to be grind, my point was that something like Redlax + Chase is not grind despite being double support lol
low coral
At the same time, in all likelihood double support + Pryce is probably going to ...
Nope, also disagree, I think bringing Irida is way more likely to be sucessful than anything else
dim lance
i said an ice facilitator, if you're using Pryce as the example of choice probably best to give a more blank slate unit like idk, Jessie? Bugsy?
Because obviously Irida is a UB "blanket check"
idt something like Hilbert would necessarily be the better pick either
low coral
I also think you're more likely to find success with Jessie by bringing Atticus + SS Roxie or something like that
It's just that Jessie's contribution will be nearly 0
Since Jessie is the single worst non-eggmon unit in the game
dim lance
The more extreme exceptions aside, you're essentially offering to just up unit quality
which is kind not the point of "grind" or "double tank support"
whereby the point is to compensate for lack of complementary quality
low coral
And what would be the point, then?
dim lance
By simply bringing a secure defensive backbone
Not everyone has the privilege of bringing a full stack comp for UB
and while people can scramble as best they can with limited answers
I do think the most successful "limited answers" involved grind slow comps
as the f2p clears can probably attest to more often
low coral
Well, F2P units are naturally better on the defensive side than on the offensive one, on average
Legendary supports include Sycamore and Hop
low coral
Strikes include Zinnia and Giovanni
dim lance
Even beyond the f2p people, it's probably less reasonable to get coverages on all bases
then it is to get Steven + anything with not shit bulk quality as a supplement
and your limited "monocarry"
Our strongest offensive cores comprise of multiple fairs and some even MFs
and invested ones as well
low coral
I mean, if it's more secure and less investment-dependent, I just think more people would actually run, especially those struggling
low coral
Most players start the game running dual supports
dim lance
but that is also sensitive to the player's roster in question
low coral
Since their roster is more limited
So they have to actually transition to double strike instead of starting with it
I would imagine there's a reason most people end up taking the same path, even those that weren't even on communities for a long time
dim lance
Experience and roster expansion means that down the line you'd prefer a single support base compositonally
And there are many incentives to do so
Reduced playtime, dopamine numbers
the overall more rewarding nature of offensive than defensive units
despite the fact that defensive units are probably "more essential"
because the game is a DPS check
but now you can't greed full damage with no backbone like the pre UB days
low coral
And neither can you with no damage by that logic
dim lance
Does that translate to a superiority of the mono support structures that have been standardized? i don't think so
low coral
(Ofc you actually can, but it's taking extreme examples, as showcased by Chase clears on no backbone)
dim lance
And neither can you with no damage by that logic
Damage exists on a spectrum, just that I feel like it's less punishing to have low damage than it is to have low backbone
low coral
Does that translate to a *superiority* of the mono support structures that have ...
Well, you're the one putting double support as more secure and less investment need path to victory, since I actually don't see people talking about the superiority of single support out of nowhere at all
It's just not really brought up
dim lance
Well, the conversation began with me questioning validity
My preassumptions were that the more secure your roster and the more experienced you were the more redundant it was
and you'd do it by capacity, but I also feel there's an intrinsic judgement that like
an arc clear is better than a triple support clear on the same stage or w/e
low coral
Well, didn't the person who replied to you actually say they liked double support? Lol
dim lance
and you disagreed on "safety"
Which I feel operates under the assumption of fully optimal resources
low coral
No, I disagreed on it being more secure
dim lance
And again, a hierarchy on clear "validity"
of what makes a clear "better" than other clears
low coral
I never put it below, I said it wasn't above
dim lance
I feel it is more secure under the assumption that you are more resource deprived, and that it is "more demonstrated" that units of lower quality pieced together
or units with poorer mutual synergy
can surmount the traditonal checks due to sheer backbone
Chase blitz is an exception, not the norm
I guess with Leon/Blue/Leaf being a thing
I guess that's also another comp that 'greeds'
Point being that a more defensively oriented piece is more secure than an offensively orientated one, supposing you cannot have both bases covered
Strong offensive units also come with the benefit of reducing the need for defensive extremity, but I think it's harder to get a secure roster of broken offensive stuff
which I guess, take that with a grain of salt
low coral
Sure, it's just that I've never seen anyone go "man, blitz sure is better than going no DPS"
It just feels a hyper specific statement
Chase just happened to find more widespread success
But it's not like everyone runs Chase dual DPS either
I would actually call those comps borderline on the niche side
dim lance
I think it is also a preassumption thing that also manifests in the way specific units are appraised, so I guess my bad on that part
low coral
Since Chase's also being used to enable Circle-dependent units
dim lance
And Chase can also just play with stuff that covers their own defenses
and is perfectly fine with playing long
low coral
And Chase can also just play with stuff that covers their own defenses
Yeah, although those units are on the rarer side since they tend to be physical
Like SC Selene and Giacomo
Chase in general I think just broke out of the bubble due to unit quality
Other hyper offensive supports are kinda hated, like the early NCs
dim lance
Yeah, it mostly works if you are either defensively orientated
Or have important checks
But I feel Raihan would be the first precedent to that
stable storm
guilds will have new missions so maybe missions related to new co op battles
dim lance
He was kinda controversial
NY
Anni progressively became "appreciated" on release
Then fell off
Then he had some good showings on stuff like anabel
Recent times I think, Gio also
I think he also has not had eve Morg matchups too
lunar sedge
What's the EBE gimmick again
golden steppe
I don’t think there’s a gimmick other than
Aoe moves spam and start of turn they start off with SMUN ^ 2 and PMUN ^ 2
golden steppe
Yup unfortunately I don’t think I can beat it
rain sorrel
Yup unfortunately I don’t think I can beat it
I got to sync with SS Morty and Karen with BP Morty keeping them alive. It's not a win but it was progress
tepid perch
Double Support never fails 🙂
lunar sedge
Done I just need an upkeep of healing lmao
golden steppe
Too bad I don’t have SS Kris 
tawny prawn
Same
rain sorrel
So far, it's with SS Kris. Mini Potion All feels better than SS Morty's Sun healing
crude kite
what the fuck
that’s punching me in the face for not being able to scout for her when she reran
true tiger
Johto ebe is such an L
This means I'm losing out on 600 gems
Unless gen pool karen can somehow carry
crude kite
losing out on 300 bc i can’t beat part 2 
tawny prawn
Yup
true tiger
Piercing gaze Pokemon = bad
fringe stratus
Spamming endure with Holiday jasmine carried me
stable tundra
is your Morty 3/5?
fringe stratus
Yeah, just candied him 2 days ago for morgan UB
gentle wharf
Rainless, mini potion spamming KriSS was definitely the reason I won lol
fringe stratus
But I used a 2/5 grid iirc
The key was getting good mpr on potions and hjasmine’s tm mpr
prime flare
mpr on potion is 3/5 😭
sly dome
yeha they hit really hard you really need mpr
https://youtu.be/TRN4BQBZtoM?si=dbA9szumjOH3hnNL i did it with lana instead lol (badly played tho, my hands were shaking)
sly dome
2/5 hol jasmine is possible with wide guard mpr
fringe stratus
Wide guard mpr?
sly dome
i used lana instead of ss morty
fringe stratus
Ohhh
mental jasper
I guess if you just block every move then it doesn’t matter but good luck gambling for everything
stable tundra
But I used a 2/5 grid iirc
oh that's good to hear, mine is 2/5
fringe stratus
I guess that also works
snow spruce
Arcs carried by Lana
prime flare
real, me trying to do it with ss ethan, ss morty and someone else - i have no good johto pairs
prime flare
lmao
fringe stratus
If using hjasmine you dont even need mpr on seup next
crude kite
karen gets demolished by consecutive surf and earthquake real
fringe stratus
True. You need either consistent potions and max defenses, endurance mprs, or wide guard mprs
That being said SEUP next+2 syncs is thankfully enough for karen to ko the stage
gentle wharf
It’s funny how the fight punishes you if you use KriSS normally lol
fringe stratus
It literally is a near 2hko
gentle wharf
Boosted Surf HURTS
golden steppe
Ughhh too bad I don’t have 3/5 Lana
prime flare
lana is rng tho
golden steppe
Better than nothing
snow spruce
'SS Gio at home '
fringe stratus
I wonder if someone tested out if gio could tank the +10 EQs on noland UB
prime flare
anyone have the lana grid
sly dome
you really only need this tile, she’s going to die anyway
prime flare
tyty
fringe stratus
That and endurance maybe
pseudo pewter
Should I just resort to using non johto pairs for the new ultimate battle
sly dome
oh yeah endurance is nice
short gate
Does Ethan have unflappable?
I can’t seem to make him flinch on the first turn
To avoid the surf
snow spruce
The absolute state of Johto in this game
north locust
Okay, what am I doing wrong, everyone here is made of wet paper bags
carmine oar
yea we’re pretty much screwed unless we get lucky with either lana wide guard or scouting giovanni
short gate
scouting Giovanni just for this is stupid
rustic wolf
Very annoying fight tbh
short gate
Did endure again as steven see some play here?
north locust
scouting Giovanni just for this is stupid
That role combination gives me more of an incentive to pull, but I have no idea how good/bad he is
fading walrus
That role combination gives me more of an incentive to pull, but I have no idea ...
Eh
He's really good but there's far better supports to look forward to
north locust
Like who? 
fading walrus
Depending on your roster...
Most support MFs and arc fairs would be better investments
rain sorrel
Honestly NC Blue is still better. You'd see him in most game modes including DC. He's actually a staple unit
snow spruce
NC blue is way better
fading walrus
Ss kris, nc Blue, nc bede even, nc rosa, SS morty, arc Steven, can be imo better
rustic wolf
Blue is still top 2, but this Gio with the ability to tank the syncs is pretty valuable
north locust
Honestly NC Blue is still better. You'd see him in most game modes including DC....
Yep yep, Blue is the GOAT
stable storm
Might be the easiest ebe I have seen in a while
fading walrus
Blocking syncs and AoEs is valuable but so, so extremely situational when you lack most forms of antigimmick
north locust
I'll take a gander at #poma-questions later to see what's worth pulling for 
short gate
tried to do a non limited clear and got it first try
Send, please
fading walrus
I'll take a gander at <#949078726228987954> later to see what's worth pulling fo...
The outfit you like most
north locust
The outfit you like most
How about the one I don't have 
stable storm
you want the specifics?
short gate
non ex lana, ex karen and ex bp morty
I have all of that but ex karen
My Karen is 4/5?
Non ex
stable storm
ex her
short gate
yeah will do
stable storm
@alpine quiver found a f2p clear for the new ebe but I assume you did before me
stable storm
Do Morty and Lana gotta be EX?
I think morty has to be. My lana wasn't ex
alpine quiver
<@813047612319858701> found a f2p clear for the new ebe but I assume you did bef...
I was busy drawing, so I haven't even gotten on the game, heh!
stable storm
I was busy drawing, so I haven't even gotten on the game, heh!
my poma can't handle recording so if you haven't already, could you record a clear for the f2p comp when you are free?
alpine quiver
I'll have a look once I'm finished, so please don't share any details! I like the surprise ^^
stable storm
I scrolled up a bit and people seem to be struggling for this ebe
valid raft
So, how's Giov-alt-ni?
stable storm
@crude kite I will send you the f2p clear in dms
or you can wait until lyndis does it
alpine quiver
don't scroll up then
I meant with me, specifically. Obviously, I can't restrict the chat ^^
stable storm
probably better since she will probably record
crude kite
<@549642569114451968> I will send you the f2p clear in dms
anything is fine
alpine quiver
actually, I think I could use a break
I'm gonna have a look at that EBE
bright python
Ok this ebe is like impossible so far
valid onyx
Oh God
Can someone send me their Karen grid for this
I have 0 limited from Johto 😭
rustic wolf
I used the 3/5 Sync Nuke one from the google doc
plucky phoenix
Do we have the battle conditions typed out somewhere
stable storm
Ok this ebe is like impossible so far
want a f2p strat?
short gate
they select the moves before I can triple queue
short gate
Sure
I’m using a different team
Since no karen ex
I’m trying out nc serena
3/5 gets a good dark nuke
Worked for part 1
And past part 2 nc marnie
paper mural
For ebe using off region dmg dealer is always a pain experience.
stable storm
this ebe is fodder so it might work but idt nc Marnie or cerena are strong enough to off region even when on type
short gate
For the second one there’s a small gap, but for the third onwards it’s impossible
valid onyx
YIPPIE I DID IT
short gate
YIPPIE I DID IT
Ex karen?
valid onyx
but you pre synced?
Post sync for me
stable storm
For the second one there’s a small gap, but for the third onwards it’s impossibl...
why are you playing on 3x speed again
stable storm
Yeah but need to reset a lot for the damned Lana tm
nah
short gate
why are you playing on 3x speed again
no like it’s possible, but for the third onwards there is no more gap
It was to show how the time frame got smaller and smaller
stable storm
no like it’s possible, but for the third onwards there is no more gap
your move anims got longer and you are playing on 3x speed
stable storm
YIPPIE I DID IT
how did the enemy almost get to sync 2?no crit?
gentle wharf
Does the enemy SS Ethan set up flying Zone?
valid onyx
how did the enemy almost get to sync 2?no crit?
I think so 😭 or I did something wrong but can't remember what
gentle wharf
I forget if our own SS Ethan does it lol
stable storm
Does the enemy SS Ethan set up flying Zone?
no, but regular ss ethan can
valid onyx
Does the enemy SS Ethan set up flying Zone?
Nope
gentle wharf
Ah thanks
stable storm
I think so 😭 or I did something wrong but can't remember what
I killed 2 moves before sync 2 so probably no crit since I crit evrything
fading walrus
HBugsy kinda shreds this EBE apart lol
valid onyx
I killed 2 moves before sync 2 so probably no crit since I crit evrything
Yeah that must be it
stable storm
Which is countered by potion mpr
or lana
lana is there goat
she hard counters this ebe
other than dying to sync
golden steppe
Too bad I don’t have 3/5 Lana
stable storm
but this ebe is frail af so killing it doesn't take long
fading walrus
she hard counters this ebe
Just get a million 1/1 mprs sure
fading walrus
but this ebe is frail af so killing it doesn't take long
It's frail for Karen standards
But like
stable storm
<@847330040039342100> it’s possible
1x speed worked?
fading walrus
Anyone with exless Karen will suffer a fair bit
stable storm
Just get a million 1/1 mprs sure
3-4 60% isn't bad?
stable storm
It's frail for Karen standards
doesn't this ebe only have like 160k
that's frail for ebes nowadays I think
stable storm
fair
fading walrus
doesn't this ebe only have like 160k
It's really average
stable storm
I reset for much worse whenever I use Lear
fading walrus
Not on lower end
stable storm
Oh
fading walrus
Iirc
stable storm
the fight is funny at least
short gate
Since it gave them enough time to fill gauge
stable storm
this ebe feels a lot slower than previous ebes
enemies take so long to queue
short gate
Man I wish I had a tanky johto support who could tank all the sync damage
And not have it dispersed between the allies
That way my units could live
stable storm
Man I wish I had a tanky johto support who could tank all the sync damage
The sync isn't strong
tulip stream
put water guard on morty and it helped a lot. Obnoxious battle
fading walrus
Man I wish I had a tanky johto support who could tank all the sync damage
Should've scouted bugsy
tawny prawn
Ok figured out surviving. But can't live past sync
Karen not doing more than 20k on nuke
tulip stream
karen was sync #2 and #3
tulip stream
sync #3 killed
fading walrus
35k at least
tulip stream
using dark gear
tawny prawn
Dark gear hm
fading walrus
20k is no crit probably
tulip stream
oh also keep in mind that her mult is sync power fluc which is affected by gauge
stable storm
put water guard on morty and it helped a lot. Obnoxious battle
why morty instead of lana btw
tulip stream
have dauntless on her as LS
stable storm
idk why I am seeing so much ss Morty for this
tulip stream
why morty instead of lana btw
healing
lots and lots of healing
morty is also acceptably tanky
crude kite
oh yeah i have ss morty too
stable storm
not taking damage is better imo
crude kite
only 2/5 though
tulip stream
lana aint lasting long enough for me
stable storm
you don't need her to survive past sync
golden steppe
put water guard on morty and it helped a lot. Obnoxious battle
You beat it with this?
stable storm
let her die to sync
tulip stream
yes
I dont even have a problem w/ her living past sync
i have a problem w/ her dying to earthquaka
stable storm
are you not fishing for mpr?
valid raft
Jasmine will be needed for F2P for the EB right?
stable storm
on wide guard
stable storm
f2p clear has already been done multiple times
golden steppe
I can EX Karen… do I have to ex BP Morty?
short gate
Nvm it’s not possible, I thought it would be and I was just getting bad rng but nah
fading walrus
No dauntless, no candies spent, just two 1/5 seasonals living in the moment
tulip stream
I can EX Karen… do I have to ex BP Morty?
only the extra stats matter imo
stable storm
Really? I'd expect some kind of multiplier once the enemy drops your Sp. Atk.
enemy only drops your stats if they hit you
fading walrus
Nvm it’s not possible, I thought it would be and I was just getting bad rng but ...
Why is cerena even there
short gate
Nvm it’s not possible, I thought it would be and I was just getting bad rng but ...
@stable storm this is with the +3 SyMN, dark rebuff and +6 atk and max crit
short gate
Why is cerena even there
Best dark sync nuke in the game?
valid raft
Full off-region possible?
fading walrus
Best dark sync nuke in the game?
1/5 of stats?
short gate
1/5 of stats?
3/5
short gate
Ah
stable storm
Really? I'd expect some kind of multiplier once the enemy drops your Sp. Atk.
f2p comp is lana karen and bp morty
stable storm
Karen has to be 3/5?
Yes
tawny prawn
BP morty
fading walrus
Or Karen + Jasmine and bp morty
stable storm
Bp morty ex isn't necessary imo
short gate
Why is it that only johto is buffed and not dark types in general as well?
stable storm
Or Karen + Jasmine and bp morty
has that worked?
short gate
Isn’t this kinda stupid?
fading walrus
has that worked?
I'm testing