#Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles
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The true whale
Sick
Hey she carried in submas ebe 2
If i whale reacted every mix owner i'd need to whale react myself too since i buy a 3k bundle every 2-3 months
Wait this looks so silly I love it 😭
Doesn't show I have 1700 Champion Spirits
I literally saved my Super Vouchers because none of the other pairs interested me much
I had Evelyn and Dana
all I needed was Morgan
Nita does not exist :)
Only 1700?
Yeah lol I haven't done Gauntlets for a while
I don't do gauntlet period
Shit mode
I have better to do than do the Poma version of grinding cs2 lobbies for skins
Trading in 5* upgrades? Simply don't EX units? How you got so much?

185 ex units
I would never ever trade PUs for spirits
Spirits were never scarce to me
Always been at 1500+ since the year they got introduced and they just kept racking up

spirits are only scarce really when you're starting out on cs/csmm
Hmm might be the break I took then lol
I shudder to think how many EXs I have lmao
Oh well
bc it's probably too many and equally not enough
Uhhh i'm goung to assume i have like 135 EXs
Yea, probably just 130-140.... lemme ju- WTF!? 
I have 162 btw
Clair time
I'll do it when the co-op event happens and i'll run anni steven through that entire event
Each move candy coin i get, i'll add a powerup
pls go back on topic
Anni Steven taking off the Power braces every time you get a coin
I give up ontyping all the UBs, Nita′s hard enough with everyone available
yeah that team solos the entire game
Another UB of suffering due to no NC Blue and 2/5 arc steven
I have 0 pairs with the Impervious + atk debuff combo lol
you have a free win then
Huh
https://youtu.be/uJmW3MPxVfw?si=-CbKYa5id0XXqcYO
@fossil fjord
morgan becomes mostly free if you counter her 2 gimmicks tbh
ngl, I feel like the 1/5 stove clear should be pinned for people struggling with morgan. Or is it already in the sheet?
We already have the pinned sheet anyway so no need to pin that specific clear
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IPql0T6dCl0 damn. o-O;
應該絕佳 再開第3拍
但怕會醒來 就沒有了
小失誤 瑕不掩瑜
啊...還是忘記開遊戲音樂了
改天再開 懶
#pokemonmaster
#pokemonmasters
#寶可夢大師
#ポケマス
well thankfully i already beat Morgan
When I saw the thumbnail, I thought it was Cheren Stoutland 
I've seen 3 videos on YT with the same team on Morgan
NC Blue/NC Nate/AS Steven
Which is weird for me
nc blue and arc steven for debuffing madness
🔥 🔥 🔥
Is it bad that i already want the next ub to come
No
I just can't beat the stage with this team
Even following step by step, Latias never dies before using dire hit+ (and thus Haxorus kills me with crit AoE moves)
There's not enough damage, is it skill gear diff?
Can confirm, GloriAlt/SkylAnni/NCheren works against Noland
Huh, didn't realise until now, but it's the Tornadus duo XD
For a second I thought Steven's unit was Rayquaza bc Flying theme lol
I wish
compression of antidebuffs and the necessary debuffs is hard
oh, oscarnator is still active 
How many passives that makes it so that you are immune to stat changes again?
Or
Downside up
I remember outside of impervious there is sunny dispo
And ss lear + ss glad
dunno
could look for it
but....
I know
there are
two sets of eevee varieties
that has them
Kris and Calem
there's also
no debuffs field
like, Jasmine has it
I think someone made a doc for that
Yeah she's the ol classic
of course, under the wtz
Oh yeah
Team electric current
Wait her sst red and nc blue
Funny
Also
It should have been
Team Whimsical stability
IT HAD A NAME
From ny lisia
Can somebody please make a dexio team for nemona
Since he's a tech supprt that do mostly the same thing as Jacq, you prob can get idea from his clear?
He has way higher sync dmg and higher DPS, just lack the 1 time big st bmove.
So i should look at jacq teams
i didnt know a lot about jacq
Hmm
I might have something in mind
anni may 3/5 R, dexio 3/5 R, nc blue 3/5 R
are there more choices to defeat latias? it seems like arc steven or ncblue is a must
ssa cynthia?
i have her but i dont think she has imprevous
its been awhile i tweaked her grid
oh wait she has
Zerena has it
grid?
Its possible you just need a flincher
but need the last debuffee
yea
im tryna think
i think a one time use of porybot wont be bad
porybot?
The user's stats cannot be lowered.
Leaf & Eevee
Palmer & Regigigas
Flannery & Torkoal
Serena & Delphox
Kabu & Centiskorch
Hilbert & Samurott
Sygna Suit Blue & Blastoise
Gloria (Dojo Uniform) & Urshifu
Blue (Champion) & Zapdos
Professor Sycamore & Bulbasaur
Grusha & Cetitan
Hilda (Summer 2022) & Grapploct
Sygna Suit Cynthia (Aura) & Lucario
Ball Guy & Amoonguss
Geeta & Glimmora
Skyla (Holiday 2020) & Togekiss
Skyla (Anniversary 2022) & Tornadus
Will & Xatu
Bianca & Musharna
Sygna Suit Dawn & Cresselia
Sygna Suit Lana & Tapu Lele
Avery & Slowking
Bugsy (Holiday 2024) & Kricketune
Noland & Pinsir
Barry (Special Costume) & Heracross
Guzma & Ariados
Alder & Volcarona
Hilda (Special Costume) & Diancie
Blue (Classic) & Aerodactyl
Elio (Alt.) & Stakataka
Player & Regirock
Acerola (Summer 2024) & Jellicent
Sygna Suit Korrina & Marshadow
Sygna Suit Brendan & Latios
Nate (Champion) & Haxorus
Mallow (Palentine's 2023) & Appletun
Sygna Suit Serena & Zygarde
Leon (Alt.) & Dragapult
Calem (Champion) & Greninja
Rachel & Umbreon
Arven & Mabosstiff
Steven & Metagross
Lillie (Anniversary 2024) & Solgaleo
Rose & Copperajah
Poppy & Tinkaton
Player & Registeel
Player & Solgaleo
Mina & Granbull
Professor Sycamore & Xerneas
Marnie (Summer 2021) & Grimmsnarl
ohhhh nice
oh i have geeta
2024Lillie is a good one for morgan
geeta has imprevous?
I guess so i dont have geeta lol
oh i dont plan to pull her
ohhh nice
You can try geeta lillie and cynthia
ill try out geeta cos she seems to have imprevous
Its on her grid apparently
No problem
yeah i cant quite kill latias in time
hmm
cos SE to bulldoze
Oh geeta
and lillie too
Who else on that list do you have
Only if you don't give her that LS
Geeta drops defense with b move
yea even if i give her i dont think the team can dish out enough dps before common crits
Well, she's weak to psychic too
dies to psychic
She's going to die from sync alone
oh wait
if you superawaken her she never misses btw

but yeah psychic
also grass doesn't have a lot against stat drop
unless you wanna
do the funny
lodge syca has it
but also dies to psychic sync
she unfortunately has all the right debuffs
i gues volo can do it
unfortunately my volo is 1/5
Who would you name as the single best anti-gimmick UB pair right now?
not dmg and not direct tanking, but countering gimmicks/debuffing etc. Specifically for UBs only
I would say Avery probably
I'd say Avery too, yes
does he do anything for Morgan?
(He's 1/5 rn...)
at 1/5 he has no stat increase, def, spdef and evasiveness debuffs
Impervious at 3/5, and his bmove turns all your team's debuffs back to 0 (1 use tho)
Avery is really cracked at 3-4/5
I still have one field candy I'm sitting on. Soon to get another, too
And he got an insane SA
No one else feels right to candy, tbh
Kinda sad he didn't get another use of bmove even after sa.
4/5*
I just checked his grid ^^
how good is he as a nuker? I assume good because of tech EXR and terrain and circle and all that
but, still
kinda weak since its ST but prob decent with awakening
Can 1M in ST dc but really not sth you'll want to keep syncing.
He has no negative status change and no status conditions, right ? So not all, but a lot
combining hail + terrain is already big and that B-move is also very disrupting
and atk/spatk debuffs, max guard
so, it sounds like he's a proper tech they just made a field for shits and giggles ig lmao
I mean sprint & field are just tech variant in the first place.
Me with sprint candies lol
do you have Nemona?
yeah
i meant it more like, in every UB he at least counter 1 gimmick
idt you have a unit that covers everything, but Avery comes close to covering most of the more important things
Has the opinion on milo changed? 
He has counter for some of the hardest ubs (speed down, status, terrain) but it seems he still needs Avery if he wants to try 1 team clear all ubs.
I said he was being overhated
But he's still far from a great roster addition
Tosakinto hasn't dropped his thesis vid yet, Id mostly need to see that
- try him invested for a better call
Justifying S+ is still hard with at best a bit placement
All I have seen for now is the Avery Arc Leon variation
I do yeah but no idea if she’s worth it
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弱点だったのでギリギリ活躍させられましたが、そろそろフェス限だけでなくマスターにも完凸ボードや超覚醒が来てもいいんじゃないかと思っています。
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グリーン3/5EXR 急所無効
リーフ 3/5EXR 命中率ダウン無効
#ポケマス #ポケマスex #ポケモンマスターズex
Oh hey
Royale and Nemona being so hard to offtype really showing that morgan isn't that bad uh
Uhh
Questionable
that's actually true, problem with morgan's is the debuff on your team is itchy. D;
And the only offtype I've seen nowadays is just Arc Steven and Anni Lillie 
There's a good amount of Electric clears too
I took out arc Steven and this is what happened hahahha
What a disaster of a battle 😂
But the initial core i started with is back
Steven dying at the very last hit
Finished by blue with a sync
Poetry
✨
There's a good amount of various all Steven clear too 
OOPS! All Steven!
Unbending sstr has been a choice surely
Glad he survived till he could, the rest it has been a 2v3
Best tank there is! 🖖
I honestly cannot stand palmer’s battle
At least with the units I have right now the amount of damn rng I need is so annoying
What units are you using
Palmer is probably my fav UB still
its possibly because he doesnt have any endure threshhold
I just don't like "have steroids and cd" requirements
It's boring and restricts too much my low investments options
i like it because i dont have to gimp my team with a random gimmick check
the Anything Goes UB
I see it the opposite way
It's "nothing goes UB"
Because you'll need giga steroids + High damage units or average steroids + op af damage dealers
I dislike all UBs
that's the only valid opinion
||/j ofc||
I like Lucy or Darach bc they're a bless in br stage 10
you only need damage
that sure, it's not FTP friendly but each year we get an even more OP pair
I've been playing for 3 years and I struggle to beat him 
Wait for the day pure f2p team finally can beat Palmer
it's a skill issue then
||/j ||
lol never
But try to beat Anabel* without an anniversary support or a rain support
At least the rain support can be may

ah you mean the role support
yes
well no one is saying that anabel is fine either lol
yeah but i find her way more restrictive
Anabel is still considered like, at worst the fourth hardest UB afaik
It's more about we don't have manual sandstorm/hail support with strong kit yet, but one day we will ig.
Noland is only fine because we happen to have Lana
But in theory he's one of the worst
Nah you have PB Lusamine now 
doesn't protect you from +10 pmun earthquake
and roxanne can't tank repetitive syncs because of her poor stats and fighting weakness
Did I forget to include it in the doc or do Argenta's sides no have any defense/spd x3 ?
ok i forgor
I mean they 100% think of Lana when making Noland imo.
i mean, the way you fight noland is entirely different from pretty much the entire rest of the game
Btw I wonder can Milo team without Lana work in Noland?
with either another damage guard pair (so you save Milos DG for the big EQ) or with strong dps (to kill before EQ), yeah
you only need a lot of fast damage*
That's the correct affirmation
And it's the opposite of what i like in fight
Stacking steroids is skilless and the most basic ass p2w strat
I mean, slotting a high damage or high accel unit for Palmer isn't inherently less skillful than slotting a status condition for say, Masked Royale
It's just what he asks for
And using CDR effects at the right times to skip rounds isn't much different from applying status/weather at the correct times
CDR is just a form of damage buff. You can still stack from another sources
I usually optimise my teams to do as much damage as possible already, so I get Khaku's point about Palmer not asking you to get out of your way to slot an unusual gimmick check ally for the sake of the fight, just smack him really hard
And CDR is something almost every comp have to some extend it isn't asking for a weather unaccessible to some types
And big steroids is also something that every team wants to get as much as possible by default
And UBs aren't supposed to be FTP friendly
It's the strongest content, its for veterans with several limited units
It is imo because there's a ton of poison units
But not even remotely as many High CD, steroid units
Especially on low end of investment, if not f2p
Yet multiple of them are clearable with no such level of investment
Or there's workarounds
I don't ask for UBs to be stallable like argenta or ls countered like Lucy but putting a kill button after a single sync cycle on a UB is peak cringe
As you said, Anabel is also annoying but at least there's multiple limiteds who can do something about fluid fortification, and 3 whole alternative weathers who shut her sun down
And these limiteds don't need to synergize
For palmer, you need 3 synergetic invested units
Which is the absolutely not the average expectancy for what the average player has, even after 4+ years of playing
Eh, I think you're exaggerating quite a bit
You can think what you want
The units do need to be well rounded for Anabel you cannot just throw whatever and beat it
Do they? Irida alone already hard checks her, then you have the good number of water types that also pile on her, plus Sand being also a good option as long as your tank can debuff
Leon, Nita and masked are much harder stages all-around
Nita is definitely #1
Doesn't mean I don't find palmer more cringe
Nita can still be beat with ghetsis you see
Palmer needs premium strikers
Ghetsis and who
And premium supports on top of that
Nc Blue and vlyra
There's a lor of ghetsis clears tbh
Most UBs have a time limit after which they just wipe your team with a crit sync, they usually buff crit before their 2nd sync and Noland even speeds up his following syncs
Fall shauntal
It's not exclusive to Palmer
For one
could you not run Vigilance
And workarounds like crit shield and damage guard to buy more time also work on Palmer
Except that can be vigi'd or stat stolen
that’s what I do with clears like Argenta

Palmer can be beaten with Riley if you're looking for one less invested strike
can confirm
And you can block Palmer Max too
used Riley/Rei/Aura Cynthia for my Palmer iirc
Ah yes, solo DPS Riley
Definitely
Bet
Why's it not on the doc
Not everything that is doable is in the doc
idek if he’s that impressive either, I haven’t touched Riley much
^
Going by registered clears Palmer would be 4th most accesible
You gain
1 turn at most and It only works with
- 1 archetype
- 1 awful support for the fight
I’ve done random runs that aren’t there
does the doc have a Lysandre clear for Noland yet?
cuz that’s who I used
That's not a metric rofl
Lana/Lysandre/Falkner
I thought registered clears were important for your paradigm
Do keep in mind that Riley, Cynthia and Rei is already as friendly as ghetsis, v Lyra and NC Blue
But I'll try to make more friendly
Arguably more friendly
Sorry if that's not the case
It's what i use to keep track on the level of accessibility
Not you cherry picking to get the upper ground

Very arguably so
As Rei didn't rerun ever until last month
And as Rei has like
The biggest repping in a single UB
I think
Definitely not
50-60% of palmer UBs are Rei + fodder + aura cyn/nc rosa/chop
Oh nc bianca
Righto
The fact we're in general pinning the restriction of Palmer as "not as bad as Nita" is just enough for me in terms of "discussion" anyway, as I said before, we can all have different opinions, nobody goes online to have their idea changed by random people in a convo that has already happened countless time anyway
I don't think Palmer is anywhere close to the hardest UBs, but i just find the conceptualization and development of his fight awfully worse than any other but maybe Nita's, just because it promotes a type of play and investment that's very "shitty gacha" tier, and it pretty much irks me considering how usually chill DeNa is in that compartment
That said, toodles, i got better stuff to do 👋
I guess we can agree some UBs are more cringe than others depending on our tastes and rosters, I find Nemona and Nita kinda cringe without hard counters
As said by yourself, "you can think what you want"
Almost every type can beat palmer. But there's hardly any off type clears on Nita, MR or Nemona
Anabel needs the most limited and strongest supports for offtype.
It's just easier to have a top team for palmer than one for nemona, that's limited to almost 1 type
I also like to thrash Darach around since I usually prioritize putting up some field in most of my teams, for me it just felt more exciting to use Palmer as damage check test because of the tighter time limit
I kinda dislike WRZ UBs, because not all types have great duration with that and often rely on MPRs
I disliked the last 3 UBs as much as Nita
=/
I like Darach because he's otherwise easy, but yeah I had difficulty doing Leon off type due to needing both field uptime and status application/resist
I still need to work on that SS Steven clear on Leon I abandoned months ago lmfao
I was kinda waiting to superawaken him so I could have a chiller time
I might try out a rock team clear on Palmer, see how feasible it is
I only really hated Nita, masked royal and Palmer
Oh and freaking thorton
That too
Whats funny about daruch
I have an easier time using my steel team than my rock team lol
Because rock zone runs out so damn fast and my t-tar is 1/5
Thornton is completely miserable without specific pairs
I’ve been stuck on him since summer
idk i threw nc blue sst red at him and it worked, don't remember the 3rd
I think it was NC Serena NC Calem NC Blue for me
There’s a bit of a NCB that’s making a big difference that I don’t have sob
I’ve tried NCRosa Cerena SsNemona, NCRosa NCSilver and SsDiantha. Which were mini adjustments to teams with NCBlue but they would never work out
If you can build a team that can debuff Thorton's offenses, buff team defenses, activate his gimmick check, and heal consistently, you should be able to do it.
(Lots of characters fill multiple of those criteria.)
Like Champion Rosa is great for that fight.
Ncrosa died way too easily on the fight for me
I could start making new skill gear
Im going to get nc leaf chirstmas so it’s going to be a lot better
Well Rosa also doesn't start with defensive buffs.
you need to debuff his defence to reduce his sync dmg
yall I really need help defeating Leon, what should I do?
I tried a team Steven, Lance and Geeta as recommended here but even that didn’t work. I’m completely clueless as nothing seems to budge him.
Here’s my limited units. But if there’s any other F2P units that could work, well, sure, just tell me cuz nothing I try work
You should replace Lance with Nc Marnie and EX Arc Steven
Anyone know why the sync on the right did so much less
I say it's a double Lance clear but it's really more of a showcase of Arc Suit Steven and how broken he really is
This is by far the hardest battle for the two Lances I did thus far, simply due to the fact of how much of a horrible match up they have against Morgan. Neither Lances has any way to prevent their stats from being dropped, meaning t...
Using Arc Steven to carry double Lance against Morgan
from the looks of it I assume it wasn't confused
She’s supposed to have a status? Oops
I see ty
I mean, you can technically save Rosa's fighting rebuff
The practicality of that seems a tad impossible
Imo it's the ub that the f2p players will beat the most excluding the free 4. F2ps will eventually get a strong enough invested enough dd for sure while getting the gimmick checks for other ubs is more unlikely
He's the ub I have seen the most players beat if you exclude the free 4
while I get why people find palmer cringe for my metric he's fine since he will gain clears at a much faster rate than other ubs
my lesst favourite ub is Leon
*least
oops I keep mixing up the names of the status ubs
I REALLY hate it when ubs have an annoying gimmick with a ton of hp and other stats and Leon is worse than Anabel to me because of him hitting so hard from early on getting set up is a very big challenge which I also dislike a lot
why is Leon so fat
The one time I don’t record my run in full
That was not as fulfilling of a clear as I thought it’d be
theyd be a lot less miserable if attempts didnt take forever only for you to get para or burn at the last minute and die
Leon harder than MR for me 
screw you nemona
I like that ubs nowadays don't have 700k-900k hp
nemona kept paralyzing my damn deoxys
idk if i can even touch gio
gonna try after i get nc blue
hopefully wont need to pity zapdos
leon kept burning sst red for some godamn reason
Was there a Morgan clear yet with 0 Impervious pairs used? (aside from that Variety Calem one with perma debuff immunity under fairy zone)
Yeah, I mean, I get why Leon had to be bulky but it's still a pain even with the rats
I’m pretty sure it’s impossible for that to happen
alright, will try
Yeah, Morgan gains way too many benefits if you're allowed to get debuffed.
ok so I’ve done some progress with the team but
Leon just nukes me his second sync in 😭
idk what to even do
feels like im missing something cause his first sync is survivable then the second is a nuke
iirc he has some dmg multipliers related to speed debuffs, i didn't remember about it earlier, mb
Your roster lacks a great special dmg dealer to clear him effectively, I'm afraid that with the pairs you have shown it's not possible to beat Leon
I always found ppl who used Geeta having issue in this bc she doesn't compress a lot with Arc Steven tank.
If you can find an unit with both status and team speed I think it's better.

This is the Leon fight no
I did it with arc Steven geeta and 2/5 diantha
She’s not the problem here
It's winnable if you either win before second sync or the third member can patch the speed debuff problem so Leon can't instakill via Slo-pponent Sync 5
If that's SSDiantha, then I can believe it's winning before the second sync deadline
Or at least smiting Leon before it
I snagged past the second sync
I missed most of the quad queues as I have become spoiled by sprint support and adrenaline too
So you can probably get a better clear
ah that must be it
shoot I don’t think I have an unit that consistently give speed buffs to clear it
I have like, Kiawe and Marowak lmao but then my team will be incomplete for poison
or without arc Steven’s incredible bulkiness
there’s also NC Bede but he only gives 2 speed buffs and idk if Leon’s speed down is infinite
Double Lance (X) Arc Steven solo 2 full hp sides (O)
Maybe Headstrong on ArcLance can reduce some issue? I used Headstron in my NC Blue + SS Misty + 1/5 ArcLance clear and he always survived longer than I expected even tho he got debuff a lot in the end.
wait no I have Fall Roxanne that infinitely raise speed but
I could pair her with Arc Cynthia but then no poison nor special damage altogether
do have her yes
I just showed my limited units but other free units one could mention and I’d likely have
If she is 3/5 she has full access to Potion tiles and 60% paralysis
she is, thankfully but
she only buffs regular def
Wouldn’t that be a problem as Leon deals special?
Arc Steven maxes spdef
well I mean yeah but who would the third unit be?
can’t remove Geeta cause she’s the poison dealer
and Marnie is the main damage dealer
I thought Sonia would replace Arc Steven
Geeta also seems to remove the fire field that Leon applies before first sync that is also used to nuke my team for it I think
I beat it with Sycamore + Event Oak + 1/5 ArcLance.
Sycamore + Event Oak is a good core for any top tier special striker in this imo, but Sycamore needs ex which I don't know you have it or not.
Wait ArcSteven + Sonia sounds good.
Fire dmg field is not threatening if you keep healing.
I think when the field is enabled it makes his sync a nuke though
on one of my attempts I didn’t remove and died first sync
removed it then didn’t
I was looking through my units and I think Avery’s B-Move could bring back lowered speed to normal
And he deals special damage
Afaik they only has dmg boost on speed debuff, might need to check tho.
hmmm maybe I didn’t pay attention to lowered speed
do they lower speed infinitely or only once?
nvm I think ur right it must be the speed
imma try with Sonia
nvm I did a bajillion tries with her didn’t work
💔
idk what’s going on he nukes my team second sync no matter what
maxed speed, paralyzed, and still
Gonna be?
wrong chat
my apologies ^^
Dexio team take 1
If i could get better psychic wish mpr on anni may
And actually use nc blue’s tm
💀
Oh yeah i got a question
Since i have dexio’s feather
Should i put it on something?
is that a no AoE Dexio moment ?
After middle down you should focus on the left first no matter what. It's the one with infinite et.
lol palmer duo
Someone mentioned in lounge that Cynthia + Silver was the only successful Palmer duo so far
So I thought "why not try ontype"
But this is not recorded so I'll retry 
Cynthia + Paulo duo'd it too (with much less MPR rng than Silvers duo)
Oh okay
But yeah this is the first ontype Palmer duo, and 3-rd Palmer duo overall
One day we'll have a pure f2p team that can do Palmer
wow this was shockingly easy. exr steven and brendan
no potion mprs required
you can just debuff latias into oblivion i guess
even at 1/5 his dps is enough to comfortably clear
way easier than the double solga clears
Im not joking it really was that easy
ss bren can easily be swapped out
Well yeah, one has the unit made for the UB, which is ontype, one has 2 freebies offtyping
Considering 1/5 non exr Leon can duo with 4/5 Steven, i'm not really surprised 4/5 Brendan compensates 1/5 steven
Don't really think 4/5 Brendan does much, the main thing he could add above 3/5 was Satisfied Snicker, but that's 5/5
it's just that impervious + the right debuffs nulify the stage
you can just use OG Leaf and it would be the same, alt Leon is just pretty good at this with his piercing blow
and debuff in general
Brendan is just there for head count
I meant that 1/5 Brendan already helps but 3/5 likely pushes the clear in the "easy" territory
sure over a duo
but 1/5 Brendan wouldn't be a good option at all
you would rather use og leaf as said above
I was comparing that trio to the 4/5 Steven 1/5 Leon duo
Morgan was pretty brutal luckily 3 Steven bmoves where enough to keep her without positive defensive buffs
Tried arc lance, but without impervious I was ending up with -6 everywhere
Maybe arc lance was intended to use with SS Lear, in the end i needed to use 3 impervious units
New closest
You got this 
Thank you
yes
What do i do lol
loveless
its 3 am and im worried about how im going to beat a spanish woman
damn gio is beefy
this assholes got even more hp than leon
ewww
no wonder im doing fuck all
thats argenta levels of bulky
this guy just refuses to fucking die
only one w/ more hp is anabel
you kinda need vigilance for even your DPS if you want to off-type him ☠️
somehow steel can brute force before second sync
w/ poppy and solgalillie
unfortunately i cant afford a sprint cake just for poppy
ooh
Challenge a Super Serious Giovanni!
anni lillie 5/5 ex + ex role
poppy 1/5 ex + ex role
arc steven 1/5 ex + ex role
#pokemon #pokémon #pokemonmasters #pokemonmaster #pokémonmasters #pokémonmaster #ultimatebattle
i got gio in today's r10 for br, it was a little spooky how he did his funny tm to negate half of apple cup debuffs on him
A good amount of teams can offtype him if carried by 3+/5 Penny
Because sides are easy to denial
Another great option is Nc bianca + either chop or invested Rei
Or an invested good unima character
Well this is fun.
1:45 - NC Bianca's LS and Grid (honestly ignore that LS)
2:01 - Rei's LS and Grid
2:20 - Skill Gears (and the end of the run)
535k Rei B-move ? 

Who am I supposed to use for the newest UB? I cant take out the sides lol..
This is ridiculous lmao

That depends on what you have
ooooooh thats a 10/5 rei .. thats why
Yes
What matters is this:
- Your team's stats can't be reduced
- You debuff their attack, defense and special defense
Units with Impervious work great against Morgan
Unfortunately no alt Leon. I assume the fight was designed for him lol
All 3 of those? Yikes
If you don't debuff their defense and/or special defense, they gain 80% damage mitigation
Hmm I guess I might be able to brute force it with NC!Bianca…
Yeah, my issue was the attack
Since Im using ASS as the tank
If you have NC Blue, then he works
Blue is weak to ice tho, wont that be an issue?
It won't
Since I noticed Morgan uses a lot of ice moves
Doesnt she also use Iceball or smth?
Latias bruh
Me when I cant read
Ill try NCBlue NCBianca SSLear and see if I can brute force it haha
Wait no, I dont need NCBianca, I can use SSLear as the dps and have ASS as the defense debuffer
What level are both?
Yeah, what's their move level?
Arc Steven/SS Lear/Anni Lillie 2024 clears this
NC Blue needs 3/5 for Overwhelm
And potentially the -2 defensive stats upon syncing first time
And he needs Impervious too
ASS is 1/5, everyone else mentioned is 3/5
Then you're good
I apparently had accuity on him from a previous UB maybe thats enough with Lear’s circle?
Impervious on Blue is meant to prevent the Bedazzle 6
I beat it first try with ASS SSLear and AnniLillie, they really made the fight look like a joke ._.
Doesnt Accuity achieve the same thing?
Impervious prevents any form of stat drops, and also allows you to use a different LS
Ok, now that Im done with Morgan, whats the strat for Nemona lol
What if I just use the same steel core but slap Anni May to change terrain..
Need to replace/remove ET, don't let her debuff your defensive stats, need a negative status change and need to reapply negative status change every time you let her sync
The fight is made for NC Rosa and SS Lana
That sounds like a job for SSLyra
if you have even 1/5 pult leon youre good
ss bren is replacable
arc steven might be too
wait nvm
you dont have pult
They've already done it
yeah my discord aint loading shit properly
Damn, SSLyra doesn survive second sync..
I do have SSSteven, but if I use him, I'd have no way to apply status change AND change electric terrain
Oh NCRosa is a support that exist, right
Is saving Rosa's rebuff worth it or that'd be wasting her Shielded and Force Field on her B Move?
No reason to you can just apply confusion later
I decided to do a funny for Morgan

@ MissLyndis
Discord on my phone cut off who sent that screenshot and I thought Dabbo was up to his normal shenanigans again
Many ppl are having fun with a different set of 3 Stevens team in Morgan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVv47MEdf1s
Arc Duo Morgan duo
they're now at 8 UB duos
skinny quad queue challenge
Here's noland
https://youtu.be/MWgmjcY2ots
bless that guy from Reddit that suggested Klara and Avery for Leon’s battle. FINALLY cleared his ass after attempting 298384 units and none of them working 😭
I need to start up learning how to build for Ultimate Battles
A lot of it seems to be Cookie Role compression.
I might check when I get home but I haven’t been able to brute force the mode very well
That's because you're not supposed to brute force them because they have gimmicks that you need to check because if you don't, you deal 1/3 of the damage or they just completely one shot you because you didn't counter their gimmick
Ebes (& ubs) are always the combination of a puzzle & high hp pool that need to be brute forcing.
There're indeed cases that some team can just brute force them without caring any gimmicks (looking at you steel team), but most of the time you are better of building teams around the gimmick.
Don't be Greta in poma ig
Man, we need a ghost-weak UB that will actually destroy AS Steven
If ghost ub uses billion ghost moves, won't SSRC and SGardenia having more problem than ArcSteven ever will?
Both of them will have very big problems
A ghost ub that kills the strongest ghost types sounds unlikely to me
Laughs in Haunted Sync 9
There is always NC Blue when Steven don't work

He's always better
NC Blue survive so many ice moves in ubs.
He even survives Noland 
Heck, NC Blue can work against Masked Royal, you know, the Ice UB. 
Also Thorton.

Oh my god I finally can talk here
Ok so I have a clear of Poppy, arc Steven and sailerola that I know is doable
I have a run video of it, it’s just not the most clean run and I wanna polish it up
Bye Anabel!
Bye Nemona when
isn't it SS Steven or SS Lusamine gaming? D; with BNianca?
Olympia can beat it. It's more about the tank tbh (arc Steven, NC Blue or NC Rosa).
Im literally still not beating it with 3/5 R Arc Steven, 3/5 R Anni May, and 3/5 R Dexio
All im missing is a way to debuff attack
and you were the one who said that any Arc Steven upgrade was worth it
So im thinking since steven can debuff attack and sp atk at 4/5
That’ll be the last upgrade i need
It'll be worth it in almost every game mode for sure.
How is arcsteven better than nc Blue in a scenario with two ontype special attackers?
so much for all UB clears dying out.
3 now and more are possible
Considering they used to be at what, 20 just 3 months ago
It was never 20 .. like 10+ with Arc Duo?
and then we got MR, Nemona as blockers
it was all fun unitil Nemona 
But in any case, awakening and powercreep will make it easier for more teams
Unlikely
Each UB release is more likely to stop more teams than an update is to bring a unit that could do all
Bug and Ghost weak UBs cannot be too bad.
Steel idk
Yes, they can be
But the old ones every time become easier
theres already 2 duos for Palmer, and 2 Sun Anabel teams
It doesn't really matter that older ones get new clears when the talk is about doing all
yeah only the later ones and Nita really matter now
Like, you get one where their gimmick is buffing evasion and debuffing your accuracy
but still new units and upgrades do help
MFs getting 5/5 grids could potentially add several new teams
Does it really matter if Anabel got easier but basically no team currently has resources for that?
NC Red can for sure do 13/14 too
I have some doubt about Palmer still with him. So either 13/14 or 12/14
Dmg dealer drop speed themselves is kinda a requirement now in all UB teams.
Unless 10/5 Milo shows more clears and proves he's capable of carrying dd other than Arc Leon ig.
I'll just post here since this was discussed here but why is my YT mobile still only has 60 secs for a short
Now that I want to post a short it won't let me 
Shorts have a maximum length of 60 seconds
I've had vids that I need to extend with my random pokemon center just to pad out the time 
Yeah seems recent
Which reminds me the YT short discussion was originally on LG thread. oops
that was changed over mid-October
As far as I got with a 2/5 Bede
I have been getting so close with Masked Royal but I am afraid I do need Vig on all three Mons to clear
Using ArcSteven+Geeta+Oleana
Also I need to try Nemona again with my Psychic team of NCRosa+SSLana+SSteven
You'd be extremely better off with a secondary water over elaine imo
That team can easily presync
Like who? I was mainly using Elaine for the debuffijg
Geeta is the only premium poison who CAN'T presync iirc
Wait Steven isn't 4/5?
No 😭
Then he might be the one to be swapped
I’ll probably just wait and try again if I get NC Blue, not really in a rush to beat her I mostly just wanted to test out Bede
Really? I have been having issues where they just clear the poison at inopportune times.
Just have Geeta always attack before syncs or before Oleana attacks
Before Sync in case they do a item
Which always team heal
NC Blue won't really be better than Steven unless he's 3/5, so upgrading Steven might be less investment depending on where he's currently at
2/5 currently but I should be able to get him to 4/5 either this month or early next month thanks to Rayquaza event and me already having 13 move candy coins
4/5 him or 3/5 Blue do sameish things
Just, one is better for specials one for phys
Blue checks many more gimmicks while steven gives more heals
I personally think Blue is better vs Anabel because of burn patching but 4/5 Steven works perfectly fine too
Blue has speed buffs, confusion and paralysis versus Steven's improved tankiness, healing, extra damage buffs, debuffs and his own output
Both have flinch, but Steven's version is typically more desirable
Steven has the issue of reactive passives messing with quad but that somehow doesn't seem to weigh him down much
Triple vigi always can carry
Unless it's palmer
Or noland
Still, Steven needs 3
while Blue only need 2 support ones
Very big discrepancy in investment required
Is Geeta ever suppose to sync?
I usually have Oleana on Debuffing Speed
You Sync with Geeta only if she's solo DPS ing iirc
If you're close to his 70% threshold Oleana's sync might waste damage, so in that scenario syncing with Geeta would be useful for bruising the sides plus zone application
No way i actually beat Leon like this 😭
Got it.
Will try that then and see if it helps
https://youtu.be/55_8Wwh8Qcs?si=kVtRBPRUpfLjEZOt
I saw VHilbert had no Nita clears so I had to step in
(Also my first UB clear without a guide
So I’m happy
)
Ty
Nice!
Richu goated
I did it in 6 tries was it that hard??
Yes, it's pretty hard
The team I used was easy or nah
Your team was enough to counter the gimmicks
Oak for poison and NC Red for dealing special damage
The real problem was
After I sync him 3rd time 😭
I gotta hit him with special move before he hit me with his 2nd sync move. That single thing took me all the 6 tries
2/5 Oak ... Did you join in the last minute of his event?
Yea kinda
that team has no way to counter speed debuffs
Speed debuff only boost their dmg. As long as it's not dmg reduction some ppl just ignore it and brute force anyway.
Always 
@final yacht icymi!
Not me having to Google icymi
lel
I dont add clears to the doc, if you want to see it there you can submit it using the submission form
(it's just a few steps it's not complicated)
Oh I de
does VBede have any potential for taking down Anabel
Yeah, i'd say he even has one of the best odds of doing so after dahlia and cerena
Definitely, this is with a 2/5 Bede and 2/5 Steven
Bede I got 2/5, still currently pulling
3/5 definitely needed
side note: I'm not pulling for Bede, I just so happened to accidentally get him twice
that banner is Marnie or bust
just curious what Bede's potential is
and I assume cake right
cuz ik that's a while away
I can probably test it out whenever I have enough candies for Bede
Probably not till next month but still 
yeah my plans with Bede depend on how this banner goes
2 candies in hand
tho both are going to Marnie if I get her
Definitely preferable
if I don't get her then it's either Volo, VBede, or VHop getting the candies
(yes I pulled Hop too. figures I'd get the two I didn't rly care for before the one I do want)
I used one not too long ago tho on Eri
Eh, eri doesn't need cake at all
the +20 def tho
Eri I just like using
You would've been better off saving it
and imo a support that actually LIKES tech cake (wow!)
Kek
and the +20 attack
Not doing much at all
given how she's got Drain Punch
It's not changing a fight
well at the least she's more than likely the best support in regards of tech cake
...not that that's a high bar
Not really
who else likes tech then
ummmm
Damn, a no tank clear
whoa
I mean ya, its a 5/5 arc Dragonite.
But still, thats impressive!
imma sound stupid but uh....how does Lance deal with the debuffs
is that his cookie or something
yeah i'm looking at the supports with tech exr and i'm not seeing anything groundbreaking
With the enemy debuffing him?
SS ace added cake bulk is much more influential than eris
that is the Morgan UB I assume right
how does Lance deal with double Bedazzle and all those zillion moves that just debuff as well
Ya.
Maybe they just used Acuity then won quickly with high damage?
I didnt watch the video
Iirc he has piercing gaze
yeah ill check it out
On grid
Point is, bt Leon + nc nate shreds Morgan apart
Ok ya, he has a passivr
So lance steroids them enough that you basically barely interact with the stage
My Dragapult is only 1/5, but its nice to see there is a duo clear of him without Super Awakening
NC Nate was the tank in that battle
The duo clear has him 1/5
and his lucky skill was Headstrong
No exr either
Yeah because you want to add extra DPS through giga impact spam
It's a DPS rush competition
And with circle + rebuff + zone + piercing blows darts you kinda melt her
Yea

Morgan's hp pool and DPS aren't insane by their own, that's why you can actually use mediocre/low investment impervious units and clear
I used SS Brendan/BT Leon/AS Steven for my clear
did a couple extras with SolgaLillie and Lysandre in instead of Brendan after
My clear is the 1 1/5 limited clear
With two Solgaleos
And it's embarassingly easy to pull off
Morgan falling to the Steel team so easily iis funny
THE steel team never had any worry
But cheap ass mc Solgaleo still clearing so easily when him and lillie24 are ground weak is pretty funny
kinda wanna see if I can make Kommo-o work but that aint likely
Needs SA
yeah Ridicure is def a nope there
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Ya mix leaf. I could try a different comp. She's nice because she can do atk/sp atk debuffs. My Eusine is 3/5 but he needs 5/5 for atk/sp atk debuffs I think. I have 4/5 Avery which might work and give another Galar boost.
think I got a run going
Kommo-o took first sync with 1%
had to stop the recording cuz I got texted so gotta start over
5/5 SS Cynthia 4/5 BT Leon 3/5 AS Steven
I mean the latter two can pretty much work with any decent third
it's gonna be a matter of getting Kommo to live
if I get good Potion refreshes and have him survive its good
you might get the clear but kommo is hurting your team there more than helping
Managed to clear Masked Royal by syncing with Geeta second
Was a lot easier and Oleana finally did like amazing damage
Her sync doing over 200k
Now time to figure out Nemona
Should NCRosa+SSLana+SSteven clear that stage?
Hate that the google doc sheet doesn’t seem to work on mobile
Morgan? I doubt it
I’m pretty sure they mean Nemona 
Yeah Nemona
I have yet to try Morgan
Currently have all the easy ones cleared I think. Masked Royal, Evelyn, Leon, Lucy, Argenta, Darach, Anabel.
Its pretty easy
Fissure T1, post sync EQ, 2nd sync fissure, 3rd sync EQ
And it just keeps repeating because of momentum
I need to figure out sync orders
I keep losing to Nemona
Thinking Lele is second sync but I also need to figure out when to do Psychic Wish
lele is never
So just sync with SSteven?
yes
Psychic wish is whenever Nemona puts up terrain, that’s when she syncs and gets to 60% Hp
Also yea
Never Sync with lele
Her Sync is awful
Just use terrain at 60 and after her sync
Grid mpr if possible to avoid ET from side going out of hand, or just kill sides before
With ext 5 3 uses are enough, mpr is just much better than doing wet noodle damage and denying Stevens sync




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