Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles

[buoyant tide]

and she is 3*

[faint goblet]

Marley looks like this but less confused

[buoyant tide]

ok onto ingo and emmet

[surreal torrent]

With what damage? This is fighting and ghost needed

Uhh..can she take at least 10 hits? Cause I can’t kill fast

[faint goblet]

I think I might have just thrown Neo Leaf and SS Morty at that one to exploit Neo Leaf's teamwide status immunity in sun

[paper mural]

Also it might be that your dd didn't crit.
Crit adds up 1.5x more dmg or 1.5*1.2x if your ls is CS2.

[buoyant tide]

so ok kanto johto main char villain sygna suit

[buoyant tide]

can you invest in her?

i can bring sygna red for kanto mc sygna

[surreal torrent]

If I gotta add Marley, I gotta have her like super strong

[buoyant tide]

then its just choosing either johto or villain

[surreal torrent]

I mean I have her maxed out, but wouldn’t I need to grid her?

[buoyant tide]

... yes. yes you would

by maxed do you mean 150 5*?

shes not exceptionally tanky, but shes a very solid unit

[surreal torrent]

Well I need to know what grid I need exactly before I start spamming whatever

[surreal torrent]

No

[buoyant tide]

well

[surreal torrent]

5* and a solid level like 135

[buoyant tide]

i need to finish my own comp

135 5* should be fine

but she has status shield

and you can grid mpr

[faint goblet]

I'm guessing if TBolt Red was an option, we wouldn't be still here

[alpine quiver]

I tried to cheat the system by seeing if Anni 2 Lillie could pierce that Sentry Entry thing

But, I learned that it's a direct stat modifier, I think

No cheating that

[faint goblet]

Ye, she can cheat Tough Skin but not Sentry/Wise ×3

[gilded finch]

Looks like Morgan’s gonna be beat before Nemona

i dislike doing stuff out of order but

it is what it is

[paper mural]

You're confident you can beat Morgan?

[valid raft]

Morgan requires debuffing of certain stats

IIRC, she's made for SS Brendan and Alt. Leon

[gilded finch]

I do have 3/5 SS Brendan

So im

[gilded finch]

33% confident

[alpine quiver]

When does Morgan drop?

I am so READY

[gilded finch]

The 7th

I think

Yep

Saturday

[alpine quiver]

Fuck.
Still excited. Just mad I have to WAIT

[gilded finch]

Hey i mean its not that far

only like

2 resets

im mad cause i cant do nemona yet

[cunning fractal]

Sending massive luck for those finishing up the pasio subway missions

[gilded finch]

lmao

[buoyant tide]

ok i think im not gonna get the title but idc; i forgot it wasnt gems

so just clearing for the clear rewards is all i need

[gilded finch]

Are people actually having that much trouble with the brothers?

[buoyant tide]

less the brothers, more the missions prior

[gilded finch]

Which ones?

Maybe i can help

I got nothing else to do

Lol

[buoyant tide]

im missing most of 2 and 3

lemme finish this attempt rq

[gilded finch]

alright

[buoyant tide]

alr the one (1) unit with flameproof and lithe as my tank worked

thanks alolan golem once again

[alpine quiver]

Was that for a mission?

Or just to survive?

I found her neat

The issue is risking natural crits

But, we keep it going

[buoyant tide]

2: unova, galar, battle facility foe, sygna suit, battle partner, grown woman
3: johto, paldea, gym leader, trial giver, body builder
4: knowledgeable
5: battle facility foe, sygna suit
6: kanto, unova, gym leader, battle facility foe
7: johto, villain

heres what im missing

[buoyant tide]

ooh, i forgot she had int immunity!

[gilded finch]

Hmm

[buoyant tide]

i did bp sophocles w/ escape artist on grid

[surreal torrent]

Marley does not help. I’m still flinching despite using the TM

[buoyant tide]

but shes an actual support and johto

way smarter

[gilded finch]

You could probably knock off the no 4 one first

[alpine quiver]

That's because she only clears status conditions

[buoyant tide]

yeah, 4 was arc cyn carry so that one is easy

6 2 and 3 i dont know if i can solve tho

[gilded finch]

Do that while i think of ways for those

[buoyant tide]

kk

[alpine quiver]

What are the missions? And which stage?

[buoyant tide]

i can knock out 4 5 and 7 tbh

[gilded finch]

They sent them above

[paper mural]

Just a nice reminder but it's only 30 mins left.

[gilded finch]

Lmao

lock in @buoyant tide

[surreal torrent]

I need like 4 sync pairs for this battle. Rei & H. Decidueye can’t do enough damage in time before they faint

[buoyant tide]

lyndis these are my missions

[gilded finch]

you MIGHT be able to get them all

[buoyant tide]

i mean

[gilded finch]

idrk

[buoyant tide]

i finished my main clears

i have the gems/rewards

the title i can live without

[gilded finch]

Dave what are his odds

[buoyant tide]

low lmao

but

if we Can solve the fights then yall are heroes but

... wait

no

nvm

[gilded finch]

bro do the ones you can do rn

[buoyant tide]

i apparently am also missing the other rerun eb

my november was too busy i apparently forgot Everything

😭

[surreal torrent]

I hate that I feel like I just wasted resources on a sync pair that I’m most likely never gonna use

[gilded finch]

Bros not making it

[alpine quiver]

6 was easy. All but Gym Leader can be done with Morgan, Caitlin, and Oak (Nidorino)

Or, maybe combine Kanto and Gym Leader?

[buoyant tide]

lets go in search of wonder here we go, no second title for me lmao

[gilded finch]

I wish i could send my teams but they’re like

Super buried

[buoyant tide]

its alr

i appreciate the thought

[gilded finch]

I take a lot of game screenshots lol

[buoyant tide]

normal and kanto? oh this is so easy

[gilded finch]

Yes

[buoyant tide]

for lets go in search of wonder

[paper mural]

4~6 are easy to a reasonably big roaster.

[gilded finch]

I found two

Idk what stages they are but i think its not that hard to figure out which ones they are

[buoyant tide]

wanna know whats hilarious

[gilded finch]

Whoa cool organization

[buoyant tide]

i dont have alt bugsy

[gilded finch]

oh is that what that bugsy is

[buoyant tide]

is he in the batch of reruns with uhh

misty and blue?

who are comng up

[alpine quiver]

Crying rn

[gilded finch]

💀

So you mean to tell me

[buoyant tide]

they reran riley for me

[gilded finch]

Bugsy is one of those story pairs

?

[buoyant tide]

yeah

lmao

[gilded finch]

oh

omg

smh

[buoyant tide]

bugsy beedrill is his base unit

the scyther pair is one like bluecanine

[gilded finch]

Well

Good news

You dont need bugsy

But

its just gonna take an extra battle

[alpine quiver]

Good luck in the remaining time left 👍

[gilded finch]

💀💀💀

[buoyant tide]

ok eevee rerun complete

[gilded finch]

good job

Oh that reminds me

[buoyant tide]

thank you redlax for knocking that one out of the park

[gilded finch]

I need to go interact with irida

[buoyant tide]

oh god yeah

lodge lmao

to overshare slightly

i had a medical thing this morning

so i was passed tf out for most of today lmao

so im just glad to get clear rewards before rollover

[surreal torrent]

Can this game make it so that you’re not behind? I get tired of not being able to complete at least half the battles when it comes to extreme/advanced battles

[valid raft]

Oh fuck, the Pasio Subway ends today and I haven't done part 6 yet

[buoyant tide]

in fairness, part of the point of the ebe stuff is that its endgame content

[gilded finch]

Oh damn are you ok

[stable storm]

morgan tomorrow

[gilded finch]

technically

[buoyant tide]

yeah i'll live

appreciate the concern :')

[gilded finch]

still 2 resets lol

[buoyant tide]

but yeah its been a busy month

[gilded finch]

ive been there

[buoyant tide]

as long as i clear everything for the gems

thats all i really care about

[surreal torrent]

Yeah for gems that I’m gonna need. Which I can’t get

[alpine quiver]

I think I'm liking this whole EBE guide thing with two of them down

I thought of starting a doc for my own clears. Though, teams would be very sparce because of how tough some of the battles can get

But, as of right now, I'm undecided

[buoyant tide]

oh god and cheren dc??

why is everything 12/6 😭

[alpine quiver]

SS Hilbert time

[buoyant tide]

indeed

[buoyant tide]

im not resetting for crits bc i know better than to spit in the face of that mpr luck lmao

but hey my prior bug single score was non-ex bugsy sooo

[dusk notch]

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[snow spruce]

At 5/5 she does, easily. Plenty of clears of her beating status-less leo
with 3/5 Rika you might not need 5/5

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[fast pendant]

you should get somewhat close to perma ground zone

[fading walrus]

I mean you'll need a statuser still and a good rotation for when he cleanses wtz but yea

[fast pendant]

there are other gimmicks you need to check but they can probably be done by a single unit

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[snow spruce]

Rika has both poison and team status immunity under GZ

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[fast pendant]

she can, but Leon htis very hard so put someone that can help heal back

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[snow spruce]

I almost did Leon with 3/5 Rika, NC blue and 10/5 OG Cynthia
so 3/5 Arc should be easy enough

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[fading walrus]

Aside her bmove she only has low st odds

So I would only use her to guarantee the proc after endure

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[fading walrus]

Yeah, that endure cleanses wtz and status

So Rika's bmove is saved for then

As it sets both

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[fading walrus]

She's really good but her self buffing profile is kinda meh and has one of the most aggravating 1/5 or EXr-less situations imo

Her base kit is awful and without exr she's really useless

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[gilded finch]

Oh Nemona

Nemonaaaaaaa

What are yalls teams for Morgan?

[stable storm]

I am gonna see if reg Lear+ SS Lear+ nc rosa can work for the funny double Lear clear

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[gilded finch]

💀

[stable storm]

what are his team mates

[gilded finch]

I wish i had base lear

i could have pancaked nemona

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[stable storm]

someone to keep Lance from being debuffed is probably required

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[stable storm]

if your other 2 are maxed it could probably work?

latias isn't very bulky

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[fast pendant]

for all allies from passive that I can remember

SS Lear, Calem and Sylveon, Kris and Jolteon

[fading walrus]

Gonna record a Steel and a poison Comp ones and dip because I really don't like stages like these so I'm just braindead-ing

I'll try 1/5 bt Leon too just because

[gilded finch]

Speaking about Leon

[fast pendant]

some other units can apply no stat reduction with moves

[gilded finch]

How well would eternatus leon be

[fading walrus]

No impervious

= no

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[fast pendant]

eh, I don't think lack of impervious directly removes a unit

there are plenty clears wher ethe opponet has multipliers and it's doable to tank through

[stable storm]

Jasmine is also good enough with the other 2 planned members

[gilded finch]

And here i thought i was stacked on dragon units

[fading walrus]

Idk man, dealing with -4 ACC or -3 debuffs on hit sounds just unfeasible

[gilded finch]

Am i cooked

[fast pendant]

which not necessarily you need impervious to deal with

[stable storm]

who do you have to that you can pair with zerena

[fading walrus]

Acuity + headstrong/dauntless sounds just annoying to get

[stable storm]

could regular poison clear morgan btw

[gilded finch]

Wait poison is actually a viable thing for morgan?

[stable storm]

Wouldn't ASL need both or is he just fine with dauntless

[fast pendant]

some units don't care about acuity due to PG, headstrong and dauntless are very common in grids

[stable storm]

not the status

I am talking about the comp

[stable storm]

the biggest worry is the mults imo

your defenses will be constantly dropped aoe

so surviving is the bigger issue

[gilded finch]

Oh wait

I have fall roxanne

[fading walrus]

Yeah then you gotta deal with RNG -6 defences debuffs + 90% sync multiplier still

[gilded finch]

Oh no wait

[fast pendant]

not having impervious means you're being debuffed at the start, but other than that you can have teammates with team Stat Reduction Defense shield

[stable storm]

like jasmine for eyad's case

[fading walrus]

Jasmine won't tank tho

[gilded finch]

What am i looking for to pair with Zerena then

[fading walrus]

She just will not survive enough

[stable storm]

eyad has nc blue so he should be fine with with tanking

[stable storm]

do you have nc blue

[fading walrus]

And also, her field effect is short so you need mprs, and on top of that you're gonna solo unit DPS

[gilded finch]

Yes

I have nc blue

3/5 R

[fading walrus]

Soooooo unless you have a Uber unit that can debuff as third it's really bleak imo

[stable storm]

nc blue counters this fight very hard. Just need someone who debuffs defenses to negate the dr

[gilded finch]

Hmm

Like who

[stable storm]

Jasmine nc blue ASL should work for eyad

[fast pendant]

Lear, SS Misty, SC Zinnia are some of the units that have team stat protection

[stable storm]

Idm your roster

*idk

[gilded finch]

Just defense

Or sp def too

[stable storm]

sp def as well

[gilded finch]

Brb

[fading walrus]

With 3-5/5 lance probably

1/5 ain't doing shit

[stable storm]

I am gonna assume his is 3/5 at least since he suggested ASL

@gilded finch nc blue can have defense crush/mind games as lucky skill

so one defensive stat debuff would work if you don't mind rng

[olive scroll]

Oh, Cheren has both PG and dauntless, quite convenient

[stable storm]

that's a lot of units

[gilded finch]

Here are some

[fast pendant]

Olympia, NY Dawn, Brycen and Zoroark, SC Shatuntal, Fall Phoebe, Avery all have stat defense as well

[stable storm]

don't use the in game filter imo. It doesn't include passives but sstr would probably work. Iirc he has stat drop immunity tile in grid?if not ss Brendan could work

[gilded finch]

Ss brendan, zerena, and sst red?

[stable storm]

nc blue zerena sstr/brendan

[gilded finch]

i think all of them have a few extra energy too

[fading walrus]

Nope for tbolt

Only interf/status with terrain

[stable storm]

ohh

[gilded finch]

Welp

[snow spruce]

my SS Cynthia with Dauntless and Unbending will make it. Just need Acuity

[stable storm]

ss brendan should work

[stable storm]

what about sp def?

[fading walrus]

Also how is Serena avoiding the -4 ACC

Acuity?

[stable storm]

acuity

[fading walrus]

Gl with RNG drops ig

[final yacht]

she doesn't care about the acc drops

[stable storm]

the entire team has imperv eventually

[final yacht]

she has piercing gaze on 100% form

[gilded finch]

So no ones running vigilance for anyone

[snow spruce]

NC blue buffs spdef every turn, should be good enough-ish

[stable storm]

it's for the mults enemy gets

[final yacht]

just kill before you die ez

[fading walrus]

On grid?

[final yacht]

base

[gilded finch]

We should have a ton of clears within the first few hours anyway

[final yacht]

"on 100% form"

[stable storm]

could nc blue ASL and SSC survive+90% morgan before killing morgan?

[fading walrus]

Yeah but you're still dealing with multiple debuffs

Until thrn

[final yacht]

just sync first with her

[snow spruce]

Thats the team I wil try probably, I think they can pre-sync, should be ok

[fading walrus]

Yeah you just don't attack with her and sync first and stagger so they don't instadrop

[stable storm]

does morgan immediately start firing aoe?if so get the stat drops that you can revert ig

[fading walrus]

All to then still use a unit that's kinda bad

[gilded finch]

Shouldnt sprint be super good on ss brendan

Especially for this

[stable storm]

gl, would be sad if ssc failed the dragon ub

[stable storm]

zerena even solo should have enough dps for morgan

Could arc duo duo morgan?

iirc ASC has sand fort

[snow spruce]

would be sadder if AS Lance failed dragon ub
But SE damage is a big boost and I think it would be fine even offtype.
+90% is not the end of the world.

[gilded finch]

I’d imagine trying to solo or duo morgan would require maxed out pairs lol

[fading walrus]

Eh

We'll see

[snow spruce]

Hmm AS Lance has absolutely no debuff blockers. No Unbending, no Dauntless/Headstrong, nothing.
Only a never miss passive
weird, they could have given the dragon arc Impervious

[gilded finch]

Imma wait a bit to see what people come up with

[olive scroll]

They can be flinched, right

Buy time for blue's defense buffs

[valid raft]

Do you really want to risk them buffing themselves by flinchinh them?

[stable storm]

yes

[stable tundra]

Yes

[stable storm]

a worry would be enemy clicking guard spec

and becoming undebuffable and buffing

[snow spruce]

what does guard spec do and how long does it last?

[stable storm]

stat drop immunity

50 seconds

[stable tundra]

I think it only blocks direct debuffs from status moves?

So debuffs from passives still work

[stable storm]

doesn't ot block debuffs in general?

*it

[stable tundra]

I need to check it again

[valid raft]

I only have SS Brendan as the main counter for Morgan

[stable storm]

I have him, both the lears and nc nate but I am gonna try double Lear

[gilded finch]

I regret not trying for nc nate

[valid raft]

Am I right? SS Brendan and Leon (Alt. 2) are the main counters to Morgan?

[stable storm]

does Leon drop def

[stable tundra]

Yes

[valid raft]

B Move

And Leon has Impervious too

[gilded finch]

Dont you just love when they make ebe’s and stuff for sync pairs who arent currently in any banners

I mean

There is ss cynthia

but

[fast pendant]

there's hardly ever the main unit for an UB running during its release

[snow spruce]

they dont make UBs for any active banners

pretty much never

UBs are permanently available

[gilded finch]

well you know

[fast pendant]

if we can even say main unit

[gilded finch]

there is a ball park

[valid raft]

Is Morgan the 2nd UB not made for MFs?

[stable storm]

Dena makes ubs around the type's main gimmick generally

[valid raft]

Maybe 3rd

[stable storm]

not always specific units

[valid raft]

Since Palmer is made for Rei

[stable storm]

check lounge

[gilded finch]

what about off type options for morgan

[valid raft]

2nd is Giovanni made for Akari and SC Zinnia

[gilded finch]

Other than utility

[fast pendant]

most stages aren't made with a single unit in mind

[stable storm]

steel shreds

[valid raft]

I mean, Adaman alone fully counters Argenta

[gilded finch]

Crazy how one of them was free

[fast pendant]

fully would mean removing psy terrrain as well, even if it's very minor

[stable storm]

has there even been any ub not built around the gimmicks of it's weakness type?

[gilded finch]

I know Lucy took advantage

Lol

[valid raft]

That's where ASSerola comes in

[fast pendant]

so not a single unit

[gilded finch]

man this server and asses

[valid raft]

Eh, Rei purely for Palmer

[stable storm]

palmer is built around big damage

[valid raft]

Wrong

[stable storm]

fighting is good at big damage

accel is big damage

[valid raft]

He's built around sprint EX

[gilded finch]

Palmer is a ticking bomb

[valid raft]

Just like Darach is made for field units

[stable storm]

I count accel as big damage

[fast pendant]

Darach is made for Bertha

[gilded finch]

Even with 3/5 R Rei you still need some good rng

[valid raft]

Nah, he's made for SS Diantha

[fast pendant]

no lol

diantha was horrible at it without 5/5

[stable storm]

why was he built around a spotlight

[low coral]

Darach specifically is meant to be countered by Stealth Rock

[gilded finch]

Omg its ropalme

I watch your vids

[valid raft]

It's only made to counter his gradual regen

[fast pendant]

no

[low coral]

Oh, nice, ty!

[valid raft]

And his field gimmick too

[stable storm]

df lasts longer than usual fields

I think

[fast pendant]

darach's 1st half takes a lot of dmg from rock dr and sandstorm

that's what is focused on

no rock unit was even used for darach when it released because they were all so bad at it

[low coral]

Diantha showed up, but kinda needed 5/5

[valid raft]

Nah, SS Diantha was the only real counter to Darach. When NC Silvet came, it's both of them

[fast pendant]

she was nowhere near a counter

[low coral]

You were much better at using Tbolt Red than Diantha

[fast pendant]

in fact Darach was a bad matchup for her 'cause it buffs speed

[valid raft]

Only once and you can directly counter it with Rock Tomb assuming you grid Trip Twice too

Also, I can also consider NC Leaf as a solo counter to Thorton

[fast pendant]

Thorton is likely the main case of single counter

[valid raft]

Alt. Leon can be too for Morgan with some RNG

[snow spruce]

He would need unrealistic rng to debuff that much spdef

[fast pendant]

yeah it's not really something he does

the st sp.def debuffs is more clearly for brendan

[valid raft]

And Brendan has Impervious too

Alt. Leon has Impervious too

[low coral]

Morgan in general probably puts pressure on your tank

So it's gonna be hard to truly say one total counter

[valid raft]

Impervious is all you really need on your tank

[valid raft]

Palmer too IMO

[stable storm]

chat, what should I try on morgan
Double Lear+ nc rosa
double Lear+ ss Brendan

@dim lance will you try lysandre tank on Morgan

[valid raft]

I can see AS Steven fully countering Morgan's gimmicks at 4/5

[paper mural]

The sa of SS Brendan even feels like built for Morgan bc Brendan is known to be really squishy on physical as the solo tank.

[shell prism]

can someone give me tips for the challenge those blessed by a deity

[valid raft]

Inflict status condition and use special damage dealers

[dim lance]

Probably?

I'm busy today and tommorrow tho

[stable storm]

lys has downside up on grid so it would be hilarious when you eventually do the clear

[dim lance]

I still don't know how morg works yet

[stable storm]

have a way to avoid debuffs and constantly debuff attack, special attack,sp def and speed or die. If you miss morgan gains a lot of hp back and spams acc drops. Drops 3 random stats by 2 on hit and both defenses on hit as well. Almost all debuffs are aoe iirc

[dim lance]

You need speed drops too?

[stable storm]

meant def

not speed

my bad

only 530k hp and 1 endure tuo

*tho

[dim lance]

I'd need stupid good Skyla luck or something

Id probably just do rose first

[low coral]

Although they do have some buffs on endurance, most of them comes from draining

So just having no one that can be drained is a big help

[dim lance]

You still need at least -3 Def drops

And at least -5 spdef no

[dim lance]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYu5AK8Vfho

@warm haven @low coral the chef has given his first dish

[warm haven]

perfect, i havent seen anything with milo

[dim lance]

This is more of a premier

He has a bigger and longer explanation video on Sunday

that's where we get to see this thesis

so far it looks kinda ehh?

It's really due to the gimmick checks lol

[warm haven]

ooh nice, i thought abut raihan leon but i wasnt sure they had enough damage

[warm haven]

I think they cover all UBs

but we gotta see the damage, prob it's enough

oh yeah with that sun from raihan leon is gonan nuke everything

[paper mural]

Regular poma players: mid support with unpopular character
Tosakino: The possiblity of shaking the meta?

[dim lance]

Also, I guess we get partially where his "Mina 2" comes from

He is the only support with Max Guard + Max DG

meaning he can semi replicate the double block

[warm haven]

yeah

ah i thought he was gonna use raihan vs nita but it's avery

[dim lance]

he said he has to have avery here

not enough debuffs and checks without him

[warm haven]

ah sad

[snow spruce]

I mean he counters some annoying UBs and if someone else debuffs SpAtk+Atk then 10/5 Milo can tank UBs fine
the damage guard(s) come in handy
I dont think its meta shaking, but its better than what I thought of Milo at first (granted 10/5 is still steep price)

10/5 Milo + ASC + NC Leaf can probably do all UBs without too much trouble

[dim lance]

Yeah his frontline remains

very precarious

Though he also relied on no MPRs at all

so that's still big

[warm haven]

Mina could be better but milo just covers more rare gimmick checks, and both rely in offensive debuffs but those are really accessible

in any case im really happy that tosakinto is putting him in the spotlight he deserves

[dim lance]

People seem to think of him atm as

"Kabu but better"

because Kabu on paper also should have covered

a lot of the important checks, and was also "underrated" and didn't deliver

• was also seen as more of a fast battle unit

[snow spruce]

those 2 clears he posted also dont utilize Milos PMUNs at all

[dim lance]

Yeah, that just makes it even better no

Like, you don't even need to use his best part

[snow spruce]

someone with 5/5 AS Cynthia needs to get 10/5 Milo and get to work

[dim lance]

I'd ask him to do it but he also thinks its too obvious

[snow spruce]

He has all 4 arcs ?

[dim lance]

correct

[paper mural]

He's the only support with terrain change compression, which is prob what make him big in "1 team clear all ubs" meta in Tosakinto's eyes.

[dim lance]

Acerola exists

but the japanese despise Acerola

unless you're Shia

[warm haven]

technically bellelba too but just once

[paper mural]

Oh yeah I forgot her lmao.

[warm haven]

Milo is kind of future proof for GT UB too since you can toggle his extension

[dim lance]

you can also bet your ass

that when Morgan comes out tmr

he'll tilt

because Morg throws a wrench in the full clear paradigm

[snow spruce]

a potential GT UB might have extension on the enemy side like Nita

[dim lance]

I think arc and steel doesn't care about Morg

but other comps definitely do

[snow spruce]

Milo actually has Unbending, Stalwart and his TM gives +4 accuracy
He is not that bad on Morgan

[warm haven]

But idt there will be a GT since theres already UBs for setting PT (Nemona) , GT (Argenta) and ET (Leon)

[dim lance]

is +4 enough tho

[warm haven]

lol true that tm just says NO to morgans entry passive

[dim lance]

I thought you lead with -6

[stone scarab]

Only -4 iirc

[olive scroll]

Morgan doesn't break any comp that already does full clear, does she

[snow spruce]

there is TM MPR if its not

[stone scarab]

Both sides have Bedazzle 2 but nothing on the center afaik

[snow spruce]

the current 2 ones, no

[dim lance]

uhh, it should break silver rats?

or is arc + steel the only full clear comp atm?

[olive scroll]

Only arc and steel

[warm haven]

silver rats died with Noland

[snow spruce]

Arc Duo +Mix Red
full Steel
only 2 left

[warm haven]

But idt they'll have problems with Morgan

[dim lance]

did N + Mina/Bianca full clear

or did that die with MR/Nemona

probably

[warm haven]

yeah

[dim lance]

Yeah, full clear is probably dead anyway given these new stages

[warm haven]

Nemona 100% filters them

[dim lance]

you can only have diferent comp clears

[olive scroll]

Arc and mono steel can prob make it till the end

Unless sth extreme like circle requirement

[dim lance]

yeah idk they care too much about morg

[paper mural]

It's sad SS Emmet didn't do SS Lear stuff to help bird + rat 😦

[warm haven]

can they beat morg?

[dim lance]

what makes you think they can't

[snow spruce]

other 13/13 potential options are:
-Blue + Cynthia + Avery
-Blue + Cynthia + Variety Hop
-Milo 10/5 + Cynthia + NC Leaf
they would have some issues, but I think all 3 can do Morgan still? She is semi-bruteforceable

[dim lance]

I can use Rose instead of Lear and Morg still probably gets shrekt

and I can also Skyla/Lysandre/Blue also

with some decent drop RNG

[olive scroll]

Morgan in general doesn't feel like the filter stage to me ngl

[warm haven]

Idk im just scared of that bedazzle

[dim lance]

he essentially forces you to run Imperv

on all your stuff

[paper mural]

Didn't Blue + Avery + Cheren do a lot too? What stop them?

[warm haven]

Ridicure UB is just evil and funny

[dim lance]

Imperv is a very common passive

but wanting imperv on full clear

not so much

[snow spruce]

Ridicure healing 100k+ hp is funny, but Acuity stops that

[olive scroll]

No hs1 NC Blue stops them

[dim lance]

we have 4 pairs with downside up

and I think what

25 pairs

with Imperv?

[olive scroll]

PG is also very common for top DPS ig

[dim lance]

PG is fine until you realize that the accuracy drops mean

you still take 90% more damage

which is annoying

[stone scarab]

Closer to 50

[dim lance]

yeah, i don't really remember

Either way, I wanna hope Lysandre/Skyla can do tis

[stone scarab]

I went and counted through the pomatools filter, I think its 51 + like 2 from exclusive lucky skill with Imperv

[dim lance]

even if it doesn't, I still have full Steel with Rose

so no real worries

my Skyla is also 6/5 now, actually

[snow spruce]

who has Imperv on LS?

[stone scarab]

Base N I know for sure

I think there's another but I could be wrong

Sina

[dim lance]

wait, did Sina get imperv on cookie?

wut?

[stone scarab]

Yeah

[dim lance]

oh wow she actually did get freaking imperv on her cookie, damn

I wish I knew that sooner

[stone scarab]

Imperv LS + -2 spdef on her grid. She could do pretty solid for this

Though the grid tile is 5/5

[charred dragon]

Is this the place to ask for help taking down the Arc Leon challenge?

[final yacht]

that's it that's the place

[charred dragon]

Ant suggestions would be helpful. I have a lot of units, but the suggestion of just poisoning him doesn't seem to do much.

And given that it's weakness is special moves and rock moves, doesn't give many options

[fading walrus]

Ideally you wanna have

• a very good support
• a unit that can status all 3 opponents decently fast
• a special damage dealer
  Optionally a debuffer also helps

Id start by asking you to send your tracker with your updated roster

[marble portal]

Do you have Oleana?

She's got AOE Badly Poisoned and rapidly debuffs both attacks and speed.

[charred dragon]

I'm not sure what youew. By tracker

I don't have Oleana. I think the only unit I have that could toxic all pairs early on is SS Leaf or maybe Roxie?

[mental jasper]

+tracker would be it

[plucky swan]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[charred dragon]

I don't have the energy to make the move levels up to date, but these are the units I have

[alpine quiver]

I can't tell what the move levels on your units are

Maybe something like Ash, a good tank, and someone to reliably status?

[charred dragon]

Ok, I can try to update the move levels. It's just hard to do in the phone
Ash is 1/5 because I barely use him

[alpine quiver]

Oof
Any high-damage striker or nuker could also do

It doesn't have to be Ash

As long as it's special DPS

[mental jasper]

I also see no Geeta, which means you’d need a defog user to clear fire damage field (without Alt Selene, you are not killing before the enemy max move)

[charred dragon]

These are my highest special attackers

[mental jasper]

Is NC Blue 3/5?

[charred dragon]

That's Zapdos right? Yes

[alpine quiver]

It's not an outright requirement if you can endure well enough :)

But, I do admit I also used Geeta because AOE status

[stone scarab]

it is, yeah

[mental jasper]

ah crap forgot about AoE status, but Blue covers that

Blue + Marnie looks like a solid start, plus a way to either clear the damage field entirely or brute force through it

[charred dragon]

The fire damage is a big threat huh?

[stone scarab]

SS Roxie would be a good third, imo

she both guarantees early AOE status and has high special damage

[charred dragon]

Roxie is my favorite

Just realized my Marine doesn't have an updated sync grid for 3/5
That would help

[mental jasper]

Yes, Fire DF hurts you way more than your Fire DF hurts the enemies

[alpine quiver]

It's not exactly a party, heh
I believe Gradual Healing cancels out the damage, but it's still annoying

[mental jasper]

You need some way to cancel it out, NC Blue debuffing, his defensive buffs, his gradual healing should all be fine but Leon’s strong if you don’t debuff him

[charred dragon]

Thanks y'all

I had to switch up my sync grids a little, but I got him before his second sync.

Flinch came in clutch too

Didn't even get low on HP

[fading walrus]

Most stages aren't about the hp you have when you win but about just dealing enough damage fast enough before the stage cooks up a oneshot Sync @ you

[charred dragon]

Very true

[alpine quiver]

Well done!

[stable storm]

don't all the current full clear comps wreck morgan?

[dim lance]

Not really afaik, very few full clear comps short of arcs and steel cover stat drop resist

[snow spruce]

arc and steel are the only 2 full clear comps left
Unless you mean 11/13 and 12/13 ones too. Then yeah, many there lack debuff immunities.
But maybe they can still bruteforce

Its not like you MUST have triple Impervious

[stable storm]

at this point, what could even stop those 2

did you see what standard steel comp did in dc without a spammer btw

[snow spruce]

Yeah they did ~5M

[golden steppe]

Pikachu just barely made it

[spark isle]

Finaly managed to beat Kuku- masked royal

Here is the team if anyone is curious

Everyone 3/5 except Oak he is 5/5

And EX Roled except Oak.

[gilded finch]

Lets go less than 2 more hours till Morgan drops

[surreal torrent]

I have no idea who to use for this Arceus Arc Suit challenge

I can’t do the battle challenge, I can’t do the challenge those blessed

[obsidian meadow]

The battle challenge? Just use Silver

Or any other fire striker

[surreal torrent]

And rely on what move?

[obsidian meadow]

Sacred fire is fine

This is the Milo battle right?

[surreal torrent]

Yeah

Also, how do I get rid of the grass terrain?

I need fire type debuff but also need to get rid of grassy terrain

[obsidian meadow]

By the time they grass terrain the fight should be basically over

You don’t need rebuff, just confuse them or something.

I used Hop and BP Morty

[surreal torrent]

Zamazenta Hop?

[obsidian meadow]

Yeah

[surreal torrent]

These big ass damage moves

Why is it so damn strong? Just die already

Which lucky skill was it where moves never miss?

Silver misses EVERYTHING

[marble portal]

Piercing Gaze is the never miss passive.

Not sure if any cookie has that tho.

[golden steppe]

Why are you not using both of Silvers TM’s

Oh wait

You did

[obsidian meadow]

Eh no need I guess

Ah well then that

As you can see by the end it was not a super refined strat

[golden steppe]

Yess but at least you did it

[obsidian meadow]

Should have just hit mid again before its max move

[obsidian meadow]

True

[gilded finch]

40 minutes woooo

[stable storm]

morgan in 40 minutes

[gilded finch]

Lock in

[short sundial]

omg yay

[onyx cedar]

yeah... the SS Lear team clears Morgan quite easily haha...

[jaunty light]

hmmm

[gentle wharf]

Hmm

Morgan

Dunno if Leon Alt, Zerena, and Arc Steven would work

Ooh but I do have SS Brendan

[sturdy egret]

zerena is instakilled t1 by icy wind no matter what

[jaunty light]

does zerena have impervious

[gentle wharf]

Yeah

[sturdy egret]

she does with complete forme but it doesnt matter

[jaunty light]

ah

im gonna try the ss brendan one

[gentle wharf]

So much for her lol

[sturdy egret]

i think intended ontype is leon alt, nc nate, ss brendan

[jaunty light]

does geeta have impervious?

[lunar sedge]

Most free win ever lmao

[alpine quiver]

It's just free

[golden steppe]

😭

[lunar sedge]

3 syncs was all I need bruh

Funniest UB ever

[earnest panther]

He hasn't been through E n o u g h.

[alpine quiver]

That Lance is on life support 😭

[normal olive]

New ub my beloved

[earnest panther]

-6 accuracy means nothing to lance.

[normal olive]

Also btw

My arc Steven is 1/5

[earnest panther]

2/5 here

[normal olive]

Poppy was the only one dropping attack

[cosmic token]

So did DeNa hear out remarks about how BS some other UBs are so they made Morgan a cakewalk?

[normal olive]

I like that Morgan is easy

That’s what ultimate battles should be
Not too hard if you have the right units but challenging enough

Which is basically all the earlier ub with the glaring exception of Anabel

[earnest panther]

The -6 accuracy at the start of battle is a wild gatekeep

[lunar sedge]

Wdym Lucy exists

Morgan is absolutely hell without any form of debuff shield

[dim lance]

Sure

Lysandre Skyla lacks the necessary debuffs and damage

Unfortunately

Unless I run Steven with them at least

[marble portal]

trying double Solga

Lillie refuses to crit her syncs

[rustic wolf]

First UB clear

[golden steppe]

Steel team clears once again

[formal matrix]

So easy with steel team

[onyx cedar]

easy counterplay lol

[marble portal]

1%….

[golden steppe]

Morgan pulls up and she’s already getting beat up by everyone

[lunar sedge]

Future steel weak UB is going to be even funnier

[normal olive]

iris is crazy

i used 5/5 poppy for this

[onyx cedar]

haha

[normal olive]

surprinsingly works

[onyx cedar]

my Iris is just 3/5 EX

put her there because she provides all what's needed lol

trying to take out Steven now... hmmm

[golden steppe]

Swear this Psy Terrain mpr is non existent

3 runs and no mpr

Not even on the first use of Psy terrain

[loud adder]

Laughably easy

[marble portal]

Lysandre clear, anyone?

[normal olive]

alt leon clear

[dim lance]

Was intending to do it with Skyla

But this works too I guess

[marble portal]

yeah he's there for damage

Leon ofc is nuker

Lysandre has that unique honor of being the only pair with a Downside Up tile

everyone else who has that passive has it at base

[dim lance]

Were you tanking with him or

[marble portal]

nah

idk enough about this UB to risk it

as much as I love Lysandre tank I wasn't risking it

[normal olive]

So then this is an alt Leon clear

With Lysandre for support

[robust arch]

Steven is op as usual (Leon is 1/5)

[normal olive]

The duo lmao

[robust arch]

https://youtu.be/MezgXEXw0hQ?si=J43xBKACgYcOW3Vd

[warm haven]

fraudgan

[agile wave]

MC being useful for once

[stable storm]

Dragon vanquished by the power of double Lear (only 1 snatch mpr was required I think? not sure tho since I did it first try)She was very fun . I like this ub

[stable storm]

she's countered by some of the most popular units, isn't hard if you have the counter and isn't obnoxious to fight. More people continue to try to clear her and have enough fun to post about it

surprisingly I somehow haven't seen a zerena clear of morgan yet

[alpine quiver]

LMAO
I picked up Potion spam stuff and I never used them 😭

[normal olive]

The mc solgaleo clear is crazy 😭

[stable storm]

same, I also only used 2 potions and the second wasn't even needed

morgan died before I could use my second potion

@normal olive how was the ub

[warm haven]

Is there a LS for impervious?

[lunar sedge]

Discount impervious is all we he have

So no

[normal olive]

easy

im gonna do it again to polish up the run

kinda didnt consistently drop attack with poppy

[alpine quiver]

https://youtu.be/ab7bXW8HB5o?si=6E4NOxrWkUYAJeCq

[plush gale]

This one Lear Not having EX Role, Steven at 3 / 5 and I haven't Maxxed Out Lillie's Sync Cap yet https://youtu.be/wh0PqMnHWmg

[paper mural]

The random free eevee pull finally pays off once.

[rotund oasis]

Whats his team? Arc Steven?

[stable tundra]

imma try that team for fun

i also got Kris

[agile wave]

This is why i wanted vkris

[stable tundra]

i wish i could trade her to you

[gentle wharf]

Goddammit everyone calling her easy and my team not even close to beating her

[alpine quiver]

Impervious go brr

or Downside Up

[paper mural]

You need either impervious, team impervious or downside up units.

[lunar sedge]

Morgan doesn't have 80% HP endure yeah?

[alpine quiver]

60%, I think

[lunar sedge]

Oh sweet

Thanks

[stable storm]

only for 2 units

[stable storm]

he only needs himself (and rosa)

[gilded finch]

Hmm

Im really starting to hate these stat drops

[normal olive]

You need impervious

[gilded finch]

My nc blue has it

i have acuity on my zerena and arc lance

[stable tundra]

your whole team needs to be immune to stat drops

Zerena has both Piercing Gaze (on grid) and Impervious

[gentle wharf]

Doesnt zerena get OHKO’d

[gilded finch]

Yeah but her impervious only comes in once she turns into 100%

[stable tundra]

that's why she has to take the first sync

[paper mural]

They have "you stat drop? go die" passive so acuity on Zerena actually makes sense bc she still get -6 acc and it hurts her tankiness.

[gilded finch]

i wasnt expecting morgan to use guard spec

[gentle wharf]

That was a nasty surprise lol

[gilded finch]

thats why i had the idea of bringing lance

[gentle wharf]

Note to self, don’t flinch the Haxorus on the right

[gilded finch]

So am i not supposed to go for flinch on entry

[paper mural]

Yes it's better to flinch at least after you drop their def/spdef once.

[gilded finch]

She wastes no turns lemme just say that lol

[paper mural]

Otherwise you will have a full sync cycle that Morgan doesn't take any dmg with def/spdef up.

[gilded finch]

so my team does work then

[craggy wind]

Oshit morgan real

[alpine quiver]

Downside Up go brr

[gilded finch]

im jealous of that ss steven

he would solve a lot of problems for me if i had him

Aka the only 2 ubs i still need to beat

[eternal yacht]

Could play better but this is it ig

[stable storm]

What lucky skill does your Arc Lance have?

[stable storm]

Lear base got a clear before SSS. Lear better fr

[gilded finch]

Acuity

Wait

[stable storm]

bad

[alpine quiver]

SS Lear is so trash, fr 😭

[stable storm]

ASL is gonna have his stats dropped anyways

[gilded finch]

The answer was in what you literally replied to

💀💀💀

[stable storm]

I am talking about base Lear getting a clear before sygna suit Steven

[stable storm]

put dauntless or the sp defense drop immunity ls

[alpine quiver]

I love risk-less teams

1/5 BT Leon

[gilded finch]

what if i dont have that leon thooooo

[stable storm]

he has pg built in and he is gonna have his stats dropped anyways

[gentle wharf]

Ooh this might actually work

[stable storm]

@gilded finch what move levels

[gentle wharf]

Just need to rotation better lol

[stable storm]

Nc blue Zerena ASL should clear with some luck

[stable storm]

what move level is ASS?

[gilded finch]

Zerena 3/5 R, Arc Lance 1/5 R, and NC Blue 3/5 R

[gentle wharf]

1/5 LMAO

[alpine quiver]

damn

[gentle wharf]

Ass indeed

[gilded finch]

bru

[stable storm]

may not be possible then

[gilded finch]

every time i see ASS i die a little more inside

[alpine quiver]

he's very funny

[gentle wharf]

I was dumb and didn’t save my max move until 4th sync, could work

… of course I could always wait until later this month when I can feed my ass and have NC Blue as well haha

[gilded finch]

Im telling you that acronym barely sticks

[stable storm]

ASS is very memorable

[normal olive]

Feed your what

[alpine quiver]

we love ASS around here

[normal olive]

[alpine quiver]

very powerful unit

[normal olive]

I love ass

[gilded finch]

me too

[normal olive]

[stable storm]

You must type ASS

[normal olive]

No

[stable storm]

otherwise it sounds weird

[normal olive]

No

[gilded finch]

💀💀💀

[stable storm]

ass sounds so much weirder than ASS

[alpine quiver]

you can use the extra 1.5 seconds you save to chuckle at your own message

[stable storm]

Morgan is unironically hard countered by base Lear

[gilded finch]

imagine a newbie coming in here they will get scared

[stable storm]

Base Lear counters all her gimmicks

[stable storm]

we call an entire rarity MF

[alpine quiver]

can't handle all the ASS posting
it's just the new meta

[gilded finch]

I only just learned what it stood for yesterday

[stable storm]

An alt type is called SS

[normal olive]

😭

[gilded finch]

Doom teaching me a lot

[stable storm]

ASS sounds normal since capitalisation implies an acronym

[gilded finch]

i was ranting yesterday about having to wait for ASS to rerun

[alpine quiver]

how so?

[stable storm]

his tm that is refreshable has stat down defense

his snatch with buff block works very effectively

[stable storm]

since they all start with buffs you can use snatches 35 seconds one after the other to make her use up all of her buffs and make her pretty weak

in this clear I only needed 1 snatch mpr

[alpine quiver]

but, it's still kind of gambling for MPR, no?

oh

[stable storm]

I love gambling so if I can counter it with gambling it's good enough of a counter for me

especially since there's not even that much rng

[stable storm]

Lear's common partners also have stat down immunity thing so you don't even need mprs of his tm

[gilded finch]

Why are all the clears always with units or investments i dont have

[alpine quiver]

well
what units do you have?
And levels?

[gilded finch]

is there anything specific i should filter for

I mean i’ll start off with dragon units

[lunar sedge]

https://youtu.be/BeO5lyQLYbA?si=5rjKPQTBLxX8mDyS

[stable storm]

You don't need dragons necessarily

do you have someone like ss Lear

[gilded finch]

Bro

[stable storm]

do you have 3/5 nc blue

[gilded finch]

Bro

[stable storm]

how much are you willing to gamble

[warm haven]

oh boy silver rats can beat Morgan in the funiest way

[stable storm]

?

[gilded finch]

In terms of what

[stable storm]

mprs and defense crush/ mind games procs

[paper mural]

Don't do that.

[stable storm]

jasmine 3/5 nc blue and zerena could do that

you just need to gamble a bit

just "a bit"

[gilded finch]

Base jasmine?

[alpine quiver]

yes

[stable storm]

yes her tm has stat drop defense

have ya all seen any zerena clears so far?

[gilded finch]

No thats why im concerned

[gentle wharf]

Ooh

[alpine quiver]

I mean

[gentle wharf]

Geeta has impervious…

Dare I lol

[stable storm]

@snow spruce you could do something really funny if you beat morgan with ssc before any zerena beats her

gl

[alpine quiver]

I could give it a go
though, having her survive would be a different question

even with ASS and NC Blue

[gilded finch]

So much for Zerena being the definitive all around Dragon unit

[gentle wharf]

… geez Impervious is all the way on the other side of the grid instead of with all her good stuff

[gilded finch]

im probably gonna end up swapping out Arc Lance

since hes only 1/5

What about jasmine and fall roxanne?

[paper mural]

It's funny ppl had high hope for Zerena but she's actually having issue.
And ppl bash Arc Lance bc he has no Impervious but he somehow does fine.

[alpine quiver]

he's got like a hydrogen bomb for a B move
Zerena does not

[normal olive]

Cus you need to sync with zerena immediately for her to get impervious

[gilded finch]

i think people are more mad cause Arc Lance is the one Arc suit that people pulled the least for

[normal olive]

And by the time she does her stats are all gonna be dropped significantly

[gilded finch]

🤣

[gilded finch]

Thats what im saying

[alpine quiver]

yeah she took like 700 damage from first sync lmao

she is not easy to use here

[gilded finch]

Who’d you use as support?

[cosmic token]

Well Zerena being weak to Ice doesn’t help

[halcyon mango]

Having Sina's Lucky Skill (Impervious) helped, albeit barely failing.

[gilded finch]

That’s a new one

[gentle wharf]

… uh

Huh

It worked guys

LMAO

[stable storm]

the other arcs are better than Lance for this

I am not joking.

[gentle wharf]

Even Leon and Cynthia?

[stable storm]

ASS hard counters this fight and Cynthia has sand fortress

[gentle wharf]

Oh crap she does?

I really need to read grids

[stable storm]

you didn't know?

????

[gilded finch]

💀

[normal olive]

Currently just figuring out if I can send my new clear video here

[snow spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru1q_TpMBns
both 13/13 teams became 14/14

[stable storm]

Not surprised

[normal olive]

Hopefully I can turn a 400mb video into less than 100mb

[stable storm]

Pretty sure ASS and ASC could almost duo this

how's your ssc attempts going?

[gentle wharf]

Damn son

I’m a dumbass lol

[gilded finch]

SS Misty is smart but

we lacking damage on that

Lol

[gentle wharf]

Do I want to redo a UB just to see if ASSASC duo clears…

Nah

[paper mural]

Believe in ArcSteven dd

[snow spruce]

I'd like to see if 10/5 Milo can tank it (without getting Impervious from SS Lear, just by himself), hopefully Tosakinto will post something

[stable storm]

have you started your ssc attempts yet

it would be hilarious if ssc cleared before zerena

[snow spruce]

idc

Maybe later

[stable storm]

Gl whenever you attempt it

I hope you can make ssc your waifu shine

[alpine quiver]

Triple support
Let's go

[gilded finch]

wow

[paper mural]

It'll be a trillion year clear.

[stable storm]

has anyone else done a nc rosa clear yet

[normal olive]

Also just wondering

Can I like

Submit my run to the google doc despite Morgan not currently being an option there iirc

[snow spruce]

How does the passive work? Is it just a flat full +90% damage taken from having any 1 debuff?

[normal olive]

Oh wait no she’s there

[stable storm]

yep

[normal olive]

Wow they added her quick

[alpine quiver]

A w
what

I didn't see her when I submitted

[lunar sedge]

She's already there?

[alpine quiver]

I just submitted a few seconds ago

[stable storm]

mael added her in 15 minutes

[lunar sedge]

Same

Like literally

[stable storm]

mael added her when she was mined

[lunar sedge]

She wasn't there yet lol

[stable storm]

in 15 minutes