Do you have SS Erika?
#Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles
golden steppe
golden steppe
I still don’t have SS Misty
😭
An alt account I had got her 3/5 tho
Life is so unfair
quick pewter
points at Leon get wrecked nerd
nocturne arch
Do you have SS Erika?
Yes and I have Misty
surreal torrent
I hate this game sometimes. They need to raise the rewards for these hard ass battles
amber zodiac
I thought Sygna Giovanni had Tech role, but he has support.
Which still could help, but I dunno.
surreal torrent
100 gems for an ass kicking?!! That’s ridiculous
amber zodiac
Candying him to 3/5 would make the difference, but I don't use them on non Master Fairs usually...
fading walrus
100 gems for an ass kicking?!! That’s ridiculous
If they did people who couldn't clear would be way more annoyed than you are for getting 100 gems
The difference is, you still got something out of it in current case, while being locked out of it if rewards were better would be an actual noticeable loss
golden steppe
I thought Sygna Giovanni had Tech role, but he has support.
Which still *could* ...
You shouldn’t candy him just to beat the EBE
hasty bough
I hate this game sometimes. They need to raise the rewards for these hard ass ba...
I think it’s the exact opposite. They gotta raise the rewards for the lower stake stuff. Locking the gem missions on beating this stage is cruel
golden steppe
He can easily beat it 1/5
fading walrus
Candying is never recommended unless fave or if the unit seriously lack huge parts of their utility at 1/5
golden steppe
^
amber zodiac
I'm 2/5 and I'm still a little short.
nocturne arch
SS Misty/Ghetsis/Sycamore
That's what was used for the f2p clear
You sure SS Misty? Off type is now an option?
nocturne arch
Yes
surreal torrent
I think it’s the exact opposite. They gotta raise the rewards for the lower stak...
But that’s unrealistic to them. If a battle’s so easy that anyone who started the game 5 minutes ago can do it without even understanding the game, then there’s no point in raising the awards like that to their eyes
Imagine doing a defeat these level 10 sync pairs for 1000 gems. They don’t see the realistic level in that
amber zodiac
Ugh...
lunar sedge
You sure SS Misty? Off type is now an option?
Also form what I remember misty is there as buff control, the enemies have fluid fortifications which reduces damage taken the more buffs they have
golden steppe
distant pelican
where are the clear sheets
the one in the pins is outdated
pseudo pewter
golden steppe
Yes
Leon wants to be affected by a status condition or else you won’t do as much damage, you also need a special attacker since he has Sentry Entry x3
quick dove
special rock...
zealous dust
how many special rock dd'ers are there anyways
not many
like is it just selene alt?
ig lodge steven as well
final yacht
yeah it's just them
calm sand
Classic Blue also has a Special Rock Damage Move
final yacht
oh yeah, rock shift hyper beam (lame)
calm sand
yea, Rock is a very physical oriented type
zealous dust
not his sync move tho right?
calm sand
the only Special Rock moves (Excluding Z-/Max Moves) are Ancient Power, Power Gem and Meteor Beam
his sync is physical
zealous dust
yeah
calm sand
yea, some pairs have a sync from a different damage category than their strongest DPS move
zealous dust
aerodactyl is also physical in the msg, so i figure it'd be the same here
calm sand
Rock moves also have the funny thing of usually never been 100% accurate in msg
calm sand
these are the only 100% accurate Rock moves
tulip stream
mighty cleave huh
zealous dust
oh we're never getting that one in poma lmao
final yacht
One day
calm sand
Iron Boulder pair in like 2026 or something
zealous dust
no cuz that would require dena to acknowledge violet's existence
calm sand
I think they will acknowledge Violet's existence at some point
although I'm still not sure how Paradox' will be handled
considering they're sorta in the same category as Ultra Beasts
as in their own kind of special Pokemon
hmm, I think I'll put a non-Paldean character Paradox pairing in my pairs bingo card for 2025
tulip stream
we already have ss nemona so
regular sun / terrain mults
I basically use her as a beatstick
idk if they go anywhere more interesting than that
distant pelican
(oak) nidorino is a good support for leon battle
arctic mist
I'm still struggling with Challenge Ingo and Emmet, honestly...
gentle wharf
What’s your team look like?
tulip stream
ingo and emmet feels like a round that was made w/ rebuff / elaine in mind
tulip stream
oh yeah
i had issues w/ them eventually getting immune to flinch and confusion
but just unga bunged my way through w/ more gioking investment
it being arc cynthia makes sense i guess
paper mural
I rmb many speculating a Ground op pair in Dec to help them do this.
outer skiff
fast pendant
It's not as bad as it looks, it wasn't a particularly well done run
Anabel in Sun w 3/5 Leon
snow spruce
2 enemy sync buffs? zamn
paper mural
I dont know which is more impressive:
Steel team that one is weak to fire but still do it under sun
Or fire team survive 2 sync under sun
fathom tide
Doing my head with arc suit sync pair and then I return to rats and it works first try..
gentle wharf
I was expecting more rats
golden steppe
Maybe the rats are Geeta and Blue
fathom tide
funnily enough the only Red I tried was NC Red (that didn't end well)
snow spruce
What are the most common enemy spammed AoE moves in UBs and EBs? Which arc types have the most use for their positive +1 rebuff?
I feel like its Ground (EQ) > Fire (heatwave etc.) > Ice maybe? (Blizzard, Icy wind)
in this sense Cynthia and Leon get way more use out of theirs than Steven/Lance
quick pewter
The true rats are the friends we made along the way
Also it's time for me to go back to the Ingo and Emmet pit for Pasio battle subway
quick pewter
Great job, gladion /s
paper mural
Tough skin 5
quick pewter
I'm aware
arctic mist
Since the message here, the only new units for me are 1/5 Adaman & Leafeon and 1/5 Gladion & Weavile, iiirc.
quick pewter
My best ground is Courtney who doesn't do crap anyway
So I might as well pick a unit who can do literally anything on a good day
arctic mist
What’s your team look like?
...
stable storm
it's funny
paper mural
Courtney is fine ontype striker if paired with the right support in this
quick pewter
Courtney is fine ontype striker if paired with the right support in this
Courtney. Is not working.
I have. Already. Tried.
If I hadn't. Already tried. I would be using her.
stable storm
It's not as bad as it looks, it wasn't a particularly well done run
anabel sun clear 2
golden steppe
What are your supports?
stable storm
I dont know which is more impressive:
Steel team that one is weak to fire but st...
steel team did it without any positive rebuff
and has less high tiers
I wonder if fire could brute nemo tho
stable storm
It's not as bad as it looks, it wasn't a particularly well done run
will you try to do nemo if your ASLE becomes 4/5-5/5?
quick pewter
Time for me to bring back the infernal leer confusion Leaf grid
paper mural
Courtney. Is not working.
Yes. I understand the fraustration if you dont have some of the most top tier suppoerts like arc Steven or Elaine.
stable tundra
Arc Leon is weak to Electric so it's concerning for Fire team to brute force through terrain
Unless they managed to pre sync
stable storm
oh right
I think they do every ub except nita and nemo?
Unless they add a trip up ls I don't think fire can do speed up nita?
paper mural
Or a support that's super tanky with speed debuff.
quick pewter
Yes. I understand the fraustration if you dont have some of the most top tier su...
The best part is. I have arc Steven.
(it's still not working)
stable storm
Or a support that's super tanky with speed debuff.
what support would have that and still allow anabel
@quick pewter submas final ebe?
quick pewter
Yes
I'm trying to do missions now
Problem is I have no idea how to beat it without doing Arc Steven / SSLear / SSEmmet
One min lemme grab my character list ig
remote nexus
Is SS Ingo good against Leon or is it only really SS Emmet of the two who’s good against him
paper mural
what support would have that and still allow anabel
I mean when they add a new support that fit this.
Like a future arc support again.
quick pewter
I deeply apologize for the number of images
I can't afford to EX anything
But I think I have two 5* BP vouchers banked if it becomes absolutely necessary
Nvm I only have one
stable storm
I'm trying to do missions now
what do you have left for missions
quick pewter
Kanto, Johto, Sinnoh, Main Character, Villain
I cannot get Bertha/Courtney/Leaf to work
golden steppe
Is SS Ingo good against Leon or is it only really SS Emmet of the two who’s good...
All Leon needs is to have status condition applied and a special attacker
stable storm
I remember lyndis doing every mission f2p
golden steppe
Don’t know about Rebuffs tho
stable storm
I cannot get Bertha/Courtney/Leaf to work
you should look at lyndis' channel for that clear
quick pewter
To the internet
stable storm
it even has the grids and other stuff
stable storm
All Leon needs is to have status condition applied and a special attacker
he also wants a negative status change
remote nexus
All Leon needs is to have status condition applied and a special attacker
Aight sick. Gonna give it a go now as Ssingo, SsLear and AsSteven seems good on paper
golden steppe
he also wants a negative status change
Ah so I was right, Rebuff and something like that
stable storm
it's in jp tho
quick pewter
Aight sick. Gonna give it a go now as Ssingo, SsLear and AsSteven seems good on ...
That sounds fine enough
I did it with that except Emmet instead of Ingo but Ingo applies his own status too I think, so
golden steppe
Aight sick. Gonna give it a go now as Ssingo, SsLear and AsSteven seems good on ...
That should work, I tested that team out not long ago
Wait
I used Emmet instead of Ingo
But should work
Whoops
quick pewter
I wish I had SSIngo 
remote nexus
trying it out rn and yeah this seems. pretty good
That max into sync was a lil scary though lol
quick pewter
you should look at lyndis' channel for that clear
I'm already stuck i don't have that jasmine
And I don't know what would be comparable
And I definitely can't max out her lodge level in a week
paper mural
he also wants a negative status change
Leon doesnt need that. The free clear didnt use any rebuff or trap or confusion.
stable storm
then what's the passive that pops up?
opaque dagger
nvm i thougth it was ub leon
paper mural
Kanto, Johto, Sinnoh, Main Character, Villain
Steven, nc Leaf, bertha?
Keep sun most of the time and only change weather to sandstorm for Bertha's nuke.
Seriously 3/5 Steven is too strong I dont really know how to do with 1/5 Steven.
quick pewter
Yeah there's no chance
quick pewter
Steven, nc Leaf, bertha?
Keep sun most of the time and only change weather to s...
My Bertha isn't EXd I don't think she'd have a meaningful nuke
stable tundra
4/5 Arc Steven, Anni Lillie 2024 and 3/5 Alt Leon should be an easy Morgan UB team right 
I can't check the details properly rn so i want to ask if she buffs evasiveness at one point or not
quick pewter
I love how every single clear I see that actually works requires a unit I do not have
That's. Just lovely.
zealous dust
felt
zealous dust
HELL YEAH!!
zealous dust
god speed soldier o7
quick pewter
Oh boy I love trapping /s
I love having so many wonderful units. That can trap people. And totally fulfill the conditions.
quick pewter
Why does every Johto BP unit on the freaking planet do confusion
zealous dust
bcuz it was a really weird gen
paper mural
Confusion also works. It's just not consistent as trap.
It might dessapear in 3 turns; or might last for almost entire battle.
stable tundra
iirc the opponents build up their resistance to interference whenever they cleanse it
Until they get immunity
quick pewter
Well I'm screwed for everything else but that's Kanto ig
It does not feel the same
Maybe I can try NCSilver for the heck of it
He doesn't even have villain what are you here for silver /s
paper mural
I did it with NC Blue as my only interference setter (confusion) once.
paper mural
Just saying confusion can work, not only trap.
Flinch cant work tho, dont use flinch unit.
quick pewter
I stg my game crashing for no reason is NOT HELPING
quick pewter
I'M LITERALLY ONE AWAY UGH
tulip stream
congrats
tulip stream
i did it w/ exr anni skyla
gilded finch
Oh nice
tulip stream
the most annoying thing is the Dmg break points
Like if you could wipe it w/ 2 anni skyla syncs itd be ezpz
but you cant
gilded finch
thats why i brought along ss mina
She helps with an eq
And cheren flies away for the other attacks
tulip stream
I did ssa cynthia / anni skyla / lana
crystal zealot
Any suggestions for Subway Duo battle?
tulip stream
Weirdly enough i think gloria alt wouldve been better than cynthia
gilded finch
I’ve seen a lot of Lana’s in teams for Noland
gilded finch
Any suggestions for Subway Duo battle?
I used zerena arc cynthia and nc blue
crystal zealot
I used zerena arc cynthia and nc blue
Oh I don’t have NC Blue
gilded finch
arc steven?
crystal zealot
arc steven?
Yep have all the Arcs
gilded finch
How much investing do they have
crystal zealot
How much investing do they have
Steven 1/5 Cynthia 2/5 Serena 1/5
gilded finch
Hmm
crystal zealot
I have one move candy tho
gilded finch
I have one move candy tho
Dont waste it
crystal zealot
Dont waste it
I forgot I have 2 strike candy
warm haven
It's not as bad as it looks, it wasn't a particularly well done run
I knew It was possible 
fringe stratus
after pulling my third mix leaf, I finally gave this a shot and got it
stable storm
I knew It was possible <:DawnNom:632438643935674381>
I am wondering if Nemo is doable
fringe stratus
I still have masked royale ub remaining, but at least I finally got this out of the way
stable storm
do you have Geeta
fringe stratus
Beating this without ss mina or ss kris and when my most ‘recent’ water dps outside of mix leaf was archie was rough
Nope, my poison roster sucks lol
At best I have a 1/5 emma
formal matrix
I am wondering if Nemo is doable
leon is electric weak
fringe stratus
With dragon out of the way, how many UBs do we have left in terms of types?
Steel, bug, ghost, normal
Am i missing something
stable storm
normal is not happening lmao
gilded finch
after pulling my third mix leaf, I finally gave this a shot and got it
Nice
stable storm
what about a passive that makes the enemy take halve damage from non normal moves and cannot be bypassed
wary hemlock
finally
warm haven
@fast pendant do you think leon can duo anabel with ss kris/ss mina?
fast pendant
Not enough debuffs
warm haven
amber zodiac
Shooting myself in the foot a little here, I realize the value of having Bertha and she helps, but that also robs Elaine from further healing.
true tiger
what are some tips for leons battle, im checking the gimmicks, but im doing 1% dmg to the sides :/
i really want those 600 gems
fast pendant
what's your team
calm sand
Status Effect (Poison/Paralysis/Burn are recommended) and special damage dealers are needed
true tiger
well i just used a random team to just gimmick check, and even then i did that little
i didnt do proper team building, but i dont think that would make up for me doing basically 0 dmg despite gimmick checking
true tiger
Status Effect (Poison/Paralysis/Burn are recommended) and special damage dealers...
i did do that iirc
fast pendant
we would need know your options to help you
calm sand
I think it would be handy to show the team you used and this channel can see what you did wrong
true tiger
alr i will have to show later tho however i can share my units
fast pendant
sure thing
true tiger
fading walrus
Yeah that ain't happening
Your limiteds are all physical
And the freebies who could theoretically clear are 1/5 or exless or both
fading walrus
Your limiteds are all physical
Ssred 1/5 ain't doing shit
short gate
These are all your units?
short gate
Move levels accurate?
true tiger
but they are probably just gen pool
short gate
Ah
calm sand
Definitely not accurate
short gate
I take it ex also isn’t?
arctic mist
I'd recommend, generally, EXing the supports whose sync moves you'd benefit more than typical from using anyway.
Leaf & Eevee, for example, boost ally stats with their sync move even without EX.
Don't forget the free power-ups for the pairs in Legendary Adventures!
cosmic token
Been trying to clear some I’ve been too lazy to take down. Vigilance Geeta makes a big difference
arctic mist
Since the message here, the only new units for me are 1/5 Adaman & Leafeon and 1...
I'm having difficulty STILL with Challenge Ingo & Emmet, and now also Challenge Those Blessed By a Deity.
(I've recently sent a fair few messages in here for the former, but haven't had any success despite such.)
Any advice for these?
rotund oasis
i'd actually aim to kill Emmet first, the burns from the start hurts a lot.
the paralyze, not so much, but it only starts happening during post sync 1
arctic mist
Any team suggestions?
fading walrus
i'd actually aim to kill Emmet first, the burns from the start hurts a lot.
Emmet is electross
Killing mid is always priority anyway
And you're really not meant to be either parad or burned
rotund oasis
Any team suggestions?
What teams have you tried?
arctic mist
SS Blue, SS Lyra, SS Giovanni was one of them...
I recall trying Jasmine&Magnemite, Bertha and Courtney...
I've honestly lost track of some of them at this point.
(For Pasio Subway 7)
As for CTBbaD, I've tried using Caitlin&Sableye, SS Leaf and C. Marnie, I recall, then using Melony instead of C. Marnie to try to just stall (that didn't work well)...
true lagoon
yeah if you dont have alt selene you kinda suffer
a lot
i do and it was still rough cuz she only 1/5
arctic mist
yeah if you dont have alt selene you kinda suffer
Which are you referring to? CI&E? CTBbaD?
true lagoon
the battle against leon
its very clearly meant for alt selene
robust physique gets checked by her poison
sentry entry x3 so duh
arctic mist
Makes sense. I just thought I should check.
I was abbreviating them by the first letter/word, by the way. I just thought I should make that clear, just in case.
true lagoon
yes i know
ingo and emmet is harder to counter
since you want escape master + flameproof/status immunity
if you have someone that blocks both at once like nc leaf then it gets easier
arctic mist
if you have someone that blocks both at once like nc leaf then it gets easier
NC leaf's is under sun, which boosts Chandelure, though...
I have given Status Immunity & Escape Artist to SS Blue.
true lagoon
NC leaf's is under sun, which boosts Chandelure, though...
I have given Status ...
heat wave shouldnt hit that hard
rotund oasis
for the Pasio Subway 7, i ran Elaine with Lithe (she has Escape Artist and maybe Antiflinch), then SS Giovanni + Arc Cynthia.
true lagoon
but it was also just an example
rotund oasis
both SS Gio and Arc Cynthia had CS2
arctic mist
I don't have, nor intend to get, any Arc Suits at this stage, by the way.
rotund oasis
is it a 3/5 SS Gio?
stable tundra
SS Gio should be good enough with great partners
weary totem
I'm getting so close...
kinda forced to offtype this because my best rock is like. Blue Aerodactyl 1/5 lol
Gladion's Fire Weakness fucks me up so much if he lived just a little longer I think I'd win
weary totem
do you think its worth to trade Crit Strike 2 for Fire Guard or Vigilance here? does it help him live
true lagoon
so im not surprised your ass is getting beat
weary totem
oh yeah i tried using Sonia for this reason but like
true lagoon
do you think its worth to trade Crit Strike 2 for Fire Guard or Vigilance here? ...
fire guard doesnt work for syncs
weary totem
she dies way sooner
true lagoon
so it doesnt do much
weary totem
ah shit
weary totem
you also have no speed buffs
also gladion maxes his speed and cant get debuffed but he still dies first
so i dont know if thats the issue? ig penny and oleana die faster but by that point idk if stall is enough bc poison does fucking Nothing lol
i have other offtype teams that Arent weak to Fire (NC Marnie comes to mind) but Gladion has my highest damage output by far so idk if i even can do this one
weary totem
I'm getting so close...
this is what I'm rolling with btw
the grids might be unoptimized, I made Penny's and Oleana's a while ago
Gladion's I touched up specifically for this lineup
i could be missing obvious stuff on the other two
arctic mist
SS Gio should be good enough with great partners
What would you recommend, then? I've tried yet had difficulty, myself...
stable tundra
can you show me your whole roster?
golden steppe
With the right supports 3/5 Gio should be able to beat it
I mean I’ve beaten it with a 1/5 Gio
acoustic needle
I plan to beat all UBs today.
arctic mist
can you show me your whole roster?
stable tundra
next time you should try sync pair tracker site which is better and faster to showcase
anyway lemme look into it
arctic mist
next time you should try sync pair tracker site which is better and faster to sh...
I've tried it. It's a bit awkward for me to use...
stable tundra
hmmm this is quite tough, i'm not even sure if you are able to clear the stage
if only you had SS Morty
tawny prawn
If they are not able to clear it. Then I'm sure not gonna be able to with my lack of units lol.
stable tundra
that really depends on each one's roster
arctic mist
if only you had SS Morty
What makes SS Morty be considered so good, anyway? I've seen such sentiment before but don't understand exactly why...
stable tundra
you have NC Leaf who has team status condition and interference immunity under sun, but you also want 3/5 NC Leaf for confusion to shut down their damage reduction passive
arctic mist
Which channel/thread/etc. on here is for general upgrade usage advice? I'm getting a bit confused...
calm sand
#poma-questions maybe?
short oyster
Should this work? I start struggling when Selene runs out of circle
golden steppe
Ah, i was gonna recommend gridding circle extension but seems she only gets that at 4/5
spiral summit
Yeah sadly that is Selene problem
short oyster
It’s all fun and games until the second Leon sync wiped my team lol
spiral summit
She really wants 5/5 or pair with other circle pairs
true lagoon
yeah i was gonna say you need another circle unit
or else her dps will just tank
cuz of the meteor beam gimmick
short oyster
So if I don’t have another circle I can’t beat it?
true lagoon
well no
but alt selene will have a much harder time
maybe not
cuz shes 3/5
but you have to be careful with circle uses
so you can get her nuke off
crude drumBOT
short oyster
So like only use the circle when I’m syncing with her?
true lagoon
well
no
id say use it in the second turn of a sync rotation
so you can get a meteor beam and still have it for her sync
she does not have mpr
very annoying
short oyster
I concur
short oyster
Unfortunately not
true lagoon
for the extra circle uptime
true lagoon
Unfortunately not
hmm do you have any other circle pair
short oyster
Unfortunately not
true lagoon
any circle will work for her b move
yikes
uh
i guess you just have to win in 2 cycles ig
sprint ex could help too i suppose
short oyster
Should I just try to brute force with another team?
golden steppe
Who else do you have?
true lagoon
id say she would have an easier time
than other options
considering she has the perfect anti gimmicks
short oyster
Who else do you have?
The first thing I’d try is arc Cynthia but again I dont know if I can get off enough damage
golden steppe
Definitely not, Leon has Sentry Entry x3
craggy wind
short oyster
Iono over Elaine for more special damage buffs?
short oyster
Steven obviously keeps me alive lol, I’ll see if that helps
snow spruce
Arc Cynthia does it just fine (at 3/5 or higher I assume), especially with Arc Steven. And ofc any status cond. pair
its been posted here already
snow spruce
1/5 probably doesnt win, unless the second dps has status and decent special dmg to help
but generally your best 3/5 EXed Special damage pair should win without much trouble, as long as you bring status cond.
The stage is really nothing special
true lagoon
the problem is that selene is a cripple without a circle up
and her extension is 4/5
which is cringe
and they have literally no other circle units
so its hard to manage her by herself
short oyster
Got it with iono!
snow spruce
dont use Selene 
Surely there is something else
tbh even a ~3/5 EX SS Red should win probably
short oyster
Two syncs with circle up plus a few MBs worked perfectly
true lagoon
yeah i mean
my gameplan was double support
dont overlap circles
and then dps with selene all the way
short oyster
The extra special damage definitely helped plus iono debuffs spatk so bonus
crude kite
zealous dust
would 2/5 ex ss red be sufficient enough as a nuke for arc leon battle? my current special dd roster are at too low of a move level to be very effective
amber zodiac
To add insult to injury, I'm currently at 19 yellow coins.
Elaine getting Sprint role would've helped, but nope.
cold widget
where can I view things like sentry entry being used in specific battles in game? the only thing I could find was that poison was recommended for leon
calm sand
I think if the stage recommends using special attacks, Sentry Entry x passives is likely used for the opponent
cold widget
ahh I see
thank you
I wasn't sure how you guys figured out what effects there were and that makes a lot more sense
lunar sedge
Well we do get stages info from the datamine also 
calm sand
You do need a status condition setter on 3rd slot though
Paralysis, Burn or Poison are recommended the most
cold widget
would using a physical status condition setter be fine if I'm mainly using nc cheren for damage?
lunar sedge
However you can always post your roster to see if there's better options
calm sand
Geeta could probably work here
cold widget
I was able to get pretty close so I think it's doable
amber zodiac
If I don't get lucky with a Sygna Giovanni upgrade through mix by the 5th, I'm probably candying him once.
Wouldn't mean I'd complete all missions, though. I see the value of having Bertha, but I've been closer with Elaine + Classic Red than her alongside either support.
weary totem
struggling hard with the 2nd pasio subway challenge, i dont know if my electric roster cuts it but i also know its SUPER tricky to offtype so 
amber zodiac
Now I regret not getting arc Cynthia.
To an extent.
noble sapphire
quick pewter
Ughhhhhhhhh
WHY CAN I DO IT WITH BP LUSAMINE BUT NOT BP MORTY
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE
quick pewter
I didn't even grid her she was 4* and wasn't doing damage for crap either
And morty is flinching :V
golden steppe
And flinch often disappears and once that flinching disappears their defenses are tripled
quick pewter
Maybe I should use freaking will instead
true lagoon
oh
if its flinch then yeah that doesnt do much
i thought you meant lodge morty which has confuse ray
gentle wharf
Yeah the main trouble is you need interference on them in order to deal good damage
crude drumBOT
gentle wharf
And flinch doesn’t last long
true lagoon
nvm i lied
fading walrus
And flinch often disappears and once that flinching disappears their defenses ar...
Morty has confuse ray
true lagoon
who the fuck has confuse ray then
gentle wharf
But yeah I thought you were using confuse Ray
true lagoon
oh
nvm im stupid
wrong one
then it should be free you're just focusing on the wrong thing
quick pewter
i thought you meant lodge morty which has confuse ray
I'm using Morty with mismagius who does have confuse ray
But now I'm using will instead because this is dumb and I'm desperate
gentle wharf
Oh is it leaving soon?
quick pewter
Not for a week I'm just tired of staring at it
golden steppe
12/5
quick pewter
I'm going back to Morty and spamming confuse ray and potions forever
Ughhhhhhh
God. I'm so. Tired. Of this.
I can't kill Emmet before second sync I'm going to scream
Someone please tell me what the heck I'm supposed to do with this before I cry
sullen silo
Do I need 3/5 nc calem to beat geovani
marble flume
If you’re trying to replicate a team that uses 3/5 NC Calem then yes
But there’s several teams in the pinned document that don’t even use NC Calem at all
nocturne arch
Ok so I’m back and I’m still trying to beat trainers on track part 5. So someone suggested SS Misty battle facility foe. And the other two were sycamore and ghetsis. Yes I test it out and they didn’t come close after the 2nd sync attack.
So are you sure sycamore ghesis and SS Misty? Because it didn’t work it out.
stable tundra
make sure you copy the same grid/lucky skill builds as the example clears
Vigilance is crucial for Sycamore to avoid getting sniped by crit
gilded finch
I finally beat Gio
nocturne arch
ok im ready for this last one. Ingo and emmet. What the strat this time?
stable tundra
you must inflict an interference on them (trap is the best application)
for your pairs you have to find ways to prevent them from getting paralyzed, burned and trapped
nocturne arch
So… I can’t use Arc Cynthia for it?
stable tundra
Arc Cynthia is the best dmg dealer here
stable storm
So… I can’t use Arc Cynthia for it?
arc Cynthia has trap
stable tundra
she has Sand Tomb to trap
stable storm
she shreds the stage, especially at higher move levels
crystal zealot
Finally beat the subway boss
icy lotus
I've been ignoring the Challenge the Strong battles for a while now, and I'm trying to monotype them now XD
Struggling with Palmer, especially because he can ignore Eri′s team vigilance 😅
stable storm
whose your best fighting type @icy lotus
icy lotus
Does anyone have any tips that should make it possible? (From what I've seen in "Successful Teams", they're mostly 3/5 and 5/5)
icy lotus
:}
icy lotus
whose your best fighting type <@429603265513259008>
Uhh... Everyone but Chuck
stable tundra
you can check the pins in this channel for documented teams, including a lot of mono Fighting ones
stable storm
you have every fighting type?
crystal zealot
Investment in AS Cynthia from 2/5 to 3/5 really didn’t disappoint me
icy lotus
I have nearly every gacha sync pair
stable storm
btw why mono type specifically
stable storm
I have nearly every gacha sync pair
wtf.
icy lotus
btw why mono type specifically
Just... because?
stable storm
fair but you might make it harder for yourself for certain fights. Anyways, what move level is your rei
icy lotus
wtf.
Yea lol assuming my judgment on who is gacha or not just at a glance at the dex, I'm missing like 8
icy lotus
fair but you might make it harder for yourself for certain fights. Anyways, what...
1
I mean really, I've got plenty of candies, if it'll be worth it lol
stable storm
nah, don't candy for 1 specific fight unless the unit really needs it in general and you like the unit
icy lotus
1 and 1 
stable storm
I am pretty sure they could still beat palmer
rei chop and biaNCa
if they are all exed and Bianca and rei are caked
Just tank with Bianca
stable tundra
there is a monotype team involving them but that requires 3/5 Rei
the rest is not monotype
icy lotus
All are EX'd and Bianca is caked up (Not Rei, but as I said with the candies, I have a few cakes too)
stable storm
1/5 rei ss lear and nc rosa cleared for me so I assume the team I suggested can do similar stuff
stable storm
All are EX'd and Bianca is caked up (Not Rei, but as I said with the candies, I ...
rei is worth the cake imo
warm haven
i hate nemona so much
stable storm
i hate nemona so much
what did she do
stable tundra
exists
stable storm
i hate nemona so much
seriously tho, what did she do
stable storm
theres like 4 units that you 100% need to beat her
not 100%
stable storm
theres like 4 units that you 100% need to beat her
also we have more pt and gt setters than 4 iirc
she's still atrocious tho
warm haven
also we have more pt and gt setters than 4 iirc
there's not that many with more than 2
stable storm
ahhh fair
stable storm
there's not that many with more than 2
I still think it's more than 4
paper mural
Nemona is relative easy ontype but kill a lot of offtype clear.
On type you just need the genpool unit (Bianca)
stable storm
Nemona is relative easy ontype but kill a lot of offtype clear.
she kills all non pt/gt comps yes ||unless it's steel comp where they break through nemo without terrain||
snow spruce
what did she do
Be the worst UB
stable storm
Be the worst UB <:RoxanneThis:661024696346607635>
at least she's funny
warm haven
I took my revenge
warm haven
dim lance
Did you invest in Avery?
warm haven
i have him at 3/5, if there's no fields next month i'll candy him to 4/5
But unless awakening candies become more accesible i dont have plans to 10/5 him
paper mural
Btw does Arc Leon has 1 team 14/14 UB clear potential?
warm haven
If only you had 5/5 AS Cynthia too - you could do a 14/14 UB clear <:EthanGenius...
i might try to see what can i do with 1/5
warm haven
Btw does Arc Leon has 1 team 14/14 UB clear potential?
Milo + Avery is a good candidate
Also Milo + VBede
not sure if the damage is enough
dim lance
A JP guy is attempting to do with Blue and Avery afaik
If you're talking about tosakinto
He's already said Leon can't full clear in all likelihood
He has to split comps
olive scroll
Prob blocked by Nita ig
dim lance
MR and Nita
- Nemona
Granted i do think Morty Malva Leon
Can clear Nita
Or some alternate drop pick
warm haven
Morty + leon + speed debuffer is easy
dim lance
Idk why Malva came to mind lel
warm haven
With VHop it should be a no brainer
fading walrus
Not sure how they do Nita
Probably can blow a whole threshold with Leon's buddy to save one of the hail sets for last 50%
But even then, doubtful they can clear that last "bar" fast enough
snow spruce
Blue-Avery-Leon have no speed debuffs, Nita is impossible
fading walrus
Blue-Avery-Leon have no speed debuffs, Nita is impossible
Does she buff speed on entry
Because if you get godly rotations and rng you can maybe play around the stat increase block field with avery after a flinch with blue
snow spruce
nah, not possible to keep speed buffs in check like that, not even theoretically
even Blue-Avery-AS Cynthia would still be real difficult on Nita
Blue instead of Steven makes Nita quite a bit harder
fading walrus
Yeah because AoE flinches are ofc worse
snow spruce
Have Irida+NC Red ever cleared MR UB? (with any 3-rd)
snow spruce
link me if there is a link
fading walrus
Twas on yt from a random small jp
snow spruce
NC blue + Avery seems a really strong UB combo
if there was an exact special version of AS Cynthia - that would probably be stronger than Arc Duo + Mix Red
snow spruce
if Psychic Arc has good speed debuffs - that could be an all UBs team. Even without needing to have P.Terrain, since Avery already has it
Also technically there is 10/5 Hau potential. He has speed debuffs, brings his own terrain. But he is probably too slow in setup and ramp up to do all UBs
warm haven
psychic arc will be lear with stat x7 leech on hit 
wispy ledge
Chat are there any of the side mode strong battles that are decently easy to clear? I could use the gems bc why not
I did Leon, Lucy, and Darach
final yacht
Congrats you beat the easy ones
(and leon who's not supposed to be easy lol)
There's Thorton that's decently easy
stable tundra
Argenta too
wispy ledge
If I had Victini I think Thorton would be a free clear but I don't really have the AoE damage I need
fading walrus
If I had Victini I think Thorton would be a free clear but I don't really have t...
You can run a special+ Phys unit + a op support to clear thorton as long as
- someone rebuffs
- someone drops defence either AoE or in big single target chunks
This is what I went for on its debut
For example
None of the 3 was caked either back then and my execution was very sloppy but it worked finr
Rebuffs units were also extremely less common a year ago
valid raft
That team will absolutely destroy
wispy ledge
Bet
sacred haven
Which one is the best for Ingo and Emmet?
fading walrus
So surely this team is good here
I mean with leaf there you can probably ditch Leon for a Phys unit instead
But yeah she's the unit the fight is made for alongside SS hilda
fading walrus
Is she tho
shrewd marten
sentry entry x3 so duh
I did it with geeta and ss diantha and arc Steven
fading walrus
Or is she just getting carried by penny & wally
shrewd marten
Muahahahaha
fading walrus
I did it with geeta and ss diantha and arc Steven
I did Oleana arc Steve Geeta
mental jasper
isn't woke Diantha going toe to toe with SS Gladion dps-wise?
shrewd marten
To be fair my diantha was 2/5 and it was first try
shrewd marten
isn't woke Diantha going toe to toe with SS Gladion dps-wise?
Ayo super awaken that strong?
warm haven
Or is she just getting carried by penny & wally
penny can't carry anyone
fading walrus
penny can't carry anyone <:TabithaHehe:998042781375275158>
Vs Giovanni? She carries a ton of units there
Especially if SAd
shrewd marten
penny can't carry anyone <:TabithaHehe:998042781375275158>
Yeah she fuckin can
She reduces the damage you take full setup rebuff and remove crit
snow spruce
Penny counters Giovanni hard
shrewd marten
What more do you need
fading walrus
Yeah Vs Gio she's one of the biggest cheat units
shrewd marten
I did gio with penny arven and ss nemona
fading walrus
Like, easily imo the best non dark unit Vs gio
snow spruce
back then Fairy team couldnt do Giovanni with SS Mina (IIRC), but with Penny it was easy
shrewd marten
Zero damage
But with enough patience even zero damage ss nemona can do it
Kekw
warm haven
Well diantha is doing the exact same clears as SS Gladion
fading walrus
Well diantha is doing the exact same clears as SS Gladion
Can she replicate the Palmer one
Or the Leon one
warm haven
Here's palmer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rrxLQAzt8s
shrewd marten
Well diantha is doing the exact same clears as SS Gladion
Is best fairy comp, it would be weird to use her with not Wally and not penny/mina no
Like who else you using
warm haven
idk about Leon
shrewd marten
Is like saying I use grass unit without mix red and accerola
warm haven
Is best fairy comp, it would be weird to use her with not Wally and not penny/mi...
yes but you can't just slot any fairy between them and make it work
snow spruce
10/5 Diantha is very strong, although in these clears she is also on full steroids - triple rebuff, zone, many -SpDef etc.
But Gladion also did all of those, so maybe they're about equal now.
I think Gladion + SS Wally will be superior after Wally gets his 9-10/5
fading walrus
Here's palmer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rrxLQAzt8s
Ok but consider this
She's doing it with 10/5 penny Vs 3/5 iirc
shrewd marten
yes but you can't just slot any fairy between them and make it work
The only one you can’t is nemona and that’s cuz she has negative uptime
shrewd marten
Well I guess horse but like no other fairy is really worth comparing to is it
fading walrus
Fairy is still extremely restricted unit wise
But I'm pretty sure most non shit fairies can still do a lot with 10/5 penny carrying them tbfh
Esp alongside wally 5/5 (if not 10/5)
warm haven
SS Wally 10/5 will be the best fairy
fading walrus
So comparing her to gladion seems unfair because he made those clears work with less investment on penny and wally
warm haven
But yeah he will stablish Gladion as the best abuser for the team thanks to wally having a gorillion dmg nuke, that is complemented by gladion's bmove
shrewd marten
Non
warm haven
So comparing her to gladion seems unfair because he made those clears work with ...
im really not sure if those investments matter
fading walrus
im really not sure if those investments matter
Oh yeah they do
Penny's SA is really really big
warm haven
isnt it just adr3
shrewd marten
The fuck
fading walrus
Flat increase in Dps and A TON of less pressure on her sustain + automatic -1 starting cycle
shrewd marten
warm haven
and i mean it IS strong but it mostly matter for palmer
fading walrus
isnt it just adr3
Lol
fading walrus
Adrenaline 3
Reduces the sync move countdown by 3 the first time the user’s sync move is used each battle.
Opp Rebuff ↓: Team Attack Move DR 2
Reduces attack move damage taken by allies when the Type Rebuff of an opponent that attacked them is lowered.
fading walrus
Especially with the flat stat & bulk increase on herself
shrewd marten
In fact it’s a huge deal for a support that previously only had a problem that it wasn’t the tangiest tank
fading walrus
It's insane
shrewd marten
Now she is a tanky tank with all that offensive shit
snow spruce
skinny has 10/5 Penny too? 
shrewd marten
Shore
fading walrus
1040/390/420 isn't just good
Especially with 2 rebuffs and fuckton of SMUN
And cd
shrewd marten
It just means that diantha needs to do damage less as fast
rain sorrel
Dang it.
warm haven
It's true that its not a fair competition because of the difference in investments but it's diantha that we're talking about
fading walrus
still diantha is doing tons of damage
For 10 copies? Sure but not by her own merit imo
Like, ATM that amount of damage with 2 enablers like the ones she has is
"normal"
sacred haven
Which one is the best for Ingo and Emmet?
warm haven
Well no one should 10/5 non fav pairs unless your a whale
fading walrus
Well no one should 10/5 non fav pairs unless your a whale
Ofc
shrewd marten
Which one is the best for Ingo and Emmet?
Why is it
fading walrus
I'm just saying she ain't pulling that much weight without 10/5 penny and/or invested wally
shrewd marten
Pixels
warm haven
what
fading walrus
+50 spa is pretty huge too
fading walrus
And moonblast going from 170
To 235
Is huge
So yeah with all that going for her she definitely can work now
fading walrus
I wouldn't say she's anywhere close to top 10 
It's definitely good af
But not the BEEG BUSTED tier
paper mural
One of the missions is Main Character
You didnt show what ground unit you have.
3/5 NC Blue + Arc Cynthia can prob do it with any third that help keep team alive.
warm haven
I wouldn't say she's anywhere close to top 10 <:burank2Thonk:989738940963643442>
maybe not
that doesnt make her less op since all pfs will get awakening
fading walrus
Yea sure
It's really funny to me
She kept getting updates and insane teammate after insane teammate
So her being good is funny
sacred haven
You didnt show what ground unit you have.
3/5 NC Blue + Arc Cynthia can prob do ...
I don't have Arc Suit Cynthia... XD
My ground units
fading walrus
My ground units
Check if you have status immunity guaranteed cookies
sacred haven
Got em
fading walrus
If so bertha can tank and destroy along SS Giovanni and leaf for 6/7 themes
sacred haven
Base Leaf?
snow spruce
she got arguably the best expansion
The best 10/5 passive. But also her 5/5 was kinda bad, so she really needed it.
and the 10/5 Penny- 5/5 Wally team is like hyper damage steroids, it boosts all Fairy output to the max, but its less flexible than using SS Mina for example
warm haven
there's your leon clear with diantha
without 10/5 penny :^)
It was a really smooth clear
fast pendant
is there any that gladion did that she hasn't still?
fast pendant
Anabel doesn't seem like any issues
wispy ledge
You can run a special+ Phys unit + a op support to clear thorton as long as
- so...
Ok still trying this, I'm close
I've tried:
NC Blue
NC Leaf
Leon
NC Blue
NC Leaf / Ash
SS Red
AS Steven
NC Leaf
AS Cynthia
WHAT AM I MISSING
I don't have a nuke like you showed in the video it feels like. What's recommended here
fast pendant
I don't think Noland is as well
fast pendant
there's one thing I would like to see for Diantha clears which would be pretty funny
using Mutually Assured to burn leon back
shrewd marten
Ok still trying this, I'm close
I've tried:
NC Blue
NC Leaf
Leon
NC Blue
NC ...
I do not understand how you’re struggling with ncleaf
Just hit leer a few times and spam flare blitz
paper mural
Ok still trying this, I'm close
I've tried:
NC Blue
NC Leaf
Leon
NC Blue
NC ...
If you cant beat him before their second sync, give everyone Vigilance (including your striker).
Sometimes you just need a few more turns.
sour elk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAxWZYkOZnI
wow that looked even easier than the SS Gladion run, that one took 3 more sync cycles
warm haven
Yeah her sync is strong enough to be used to clear the sides
quick pewter
Is it time for me to go back to subway suffering...
It may, in fact, be time
...after I do dailies
fading walrus
without 10/5 penny :^)
Well yeah that's mina alright
fading walrus
Ok still trying this, I'm close
I've tried:
NC Blue
NC Leaf
Leon
NC Blue
NC ...
Arc Cyn + NC leaf + arc Steve should be free
quick pewter
Why do I even bother 
nocturne arch
ok so i have arc Cynthia but what units i should use to avoid paralyze or trap? Or either burn?
quick pewter
SSLear, base Leaf has friend mend on grid somewhere, slap escape artist on everyone and pray
shrewd marten
Nc leaf has solar immune
quick pewter
She does???? I could've used that???
nocturne arch
SSLear, base Leaf has friend mend on grid somewhere, slap escape artist on every...
I don’t have ss lear. Just regular
shrewd marten
She does???? I could've used that???
People underrate her so hard smh
But yes she has team solar immunity
one of those passives you don’t think about until it’s veeeery useful
quick pewter
I didn't realize she had solar immunity lol I just knew about the leer confusion funnies b/c I used that for this one
quick pewter
I don’t have ss lear. Just regular
I didn't mean to use all three of those things at once lol
Me: what if I used NCLeaf instead of SSLear
Also me: has no Johto that would be able to make this strategy functional
Like I guess I have silver but there's no way my DPS would be high enough I think
shrewd marten
I didn't realize she had solar immunity lol I just knew about the leer confusion...
It’s her passive xd
But I mean sslear is a superior unit for the most part so
Meh
Just clear it a few times
quick pewter
Just clear it a few times
I'm getting desperate to the point of trying memes just to feel something
quick pewter
Why do I even bother <:LarryDead:1090014801654198383>
.
shrewd marten
To feel something kekw
quick pewter
It’s her passive xd
Also you think I read?
stone scarab
Its highly recommended.
quick pewter
Well. I clearly don't do it enough
fading walrus
Also you think I read?
+reading 2
plucky swanBOT
gilded finch
I beat evelyn
quick pewter
What am i doing with my life
quick pewter
I beat evelyn
Ooo nice
gilded finch
This makes 3 total ubs ive beaten in like the past 3 days
I got tired of waiting for irida for nita so i just started beating everyone above nita 😂
and yeah everyone below was already beat
Yep i only need to beat nita, mr, and nemona
I havent tried Masked Royal or Nemona yet are they hard
I mean ofc they are but like how bad are they if you dont have the top on-type pairs
quick pewter
I think Nemona is a terrain check but that's all I really know about either tbh
gilded finch
Ah cool thanks
shrewd marten
She’s really fucking annoying but for the most part all you need is 2 instances of rebuff and terrain
quick pewter
I'M FREEEEEEE
Apparently my circle maintenance sucked. As usual.
And also vigilance on Lear let me live the second sync which is literally the only reason this worked tbh
gilded finch
Awesome
amber zodiac
I DID IT!!!!!
No Sinnoh, but screw it!
41/42, but I'm just glad to have been victorious at all.
nocturne arch
ok i have nc leaf but how about a unit to stop paralyze or trap?
ok i just checked nc leaf. I just need to stop the paralyze
fast pendant
as long as you're under sun, your team cannot be paralyzed or be inflicted with trap
snow spruce
10/5 SS Cynthia testing went well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgqMWslJ5Uw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPAf4es2Dv8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksqbfwXU2Mc
I might try rain Argenta too later, but SSC suffers a bit on that fight due to Rainy Immunity
true lagoon
alt leon
and the gimmick is that she debuffs you
a lot
and if defense is raised she gets tripled defenses
bright python
also what happened to the EBE sheet
granted it was outdated but then when I tried to access it (mostly just to see videos of the 4th anni ebe) i got some "this file is in the owner's trash" message
fervent mulch
10/5 SS Cynthia testing went well <:CyrusSweat:612793698798927899>
https://www....
That sync is insane
nocturne arch
I managed to beat ingo and emmet. I do have to say you will feel shit out of luck if i dont have arc Cynthia for massive DPS. But theres always alternative.
nocturne arch
ok i got more. Whats the best unit for villain?
golden steppe
Depends on what you have, SS Gio probably since he covers Johto, Ground & Villain
fast berry
anyone know how to do part 3 of the pasio subway missions?
olive hull
So uh, how is this new Leon battle winnable? Another one of those where you can't do damage unless you have a specific unit?
gilded finch
So uh, how is this new Leon battle winnable? Another one of those where you can'...
You need special attackers + status
Preferably trap and poison
olive hull
Rock weak though. So... Blue/Aerodactyl?
gilded finch
If he’s special i forgot
gilded finch
Oh
crude drumBOT
gilded finch
i mean
true lagoon
its another lance situation
olive hull
Well I'm not using a meme team to win. I'd like to win close to how it was intended first
gilded finch
Meme?
olive hull
Any Uber anniversary trio that trivializes challenge that the recommended teams in game is littered with
crude drumBOT
olive hull
Yeah I figured
So what's an actual viable strategy that doesn't involve maxed out Master Fairs? They gotta stop sneaking in these insanely hard Ultimate Battles masked as event battles
fervent mulch
Brute forcing with a special pair is probably the best option I used SCIrida Chase and Rosa
nocturne arch
Depends on what you have, SS Gio probably since he covers Johto, Ground & Villai...
You sure about SS Giovani? Because it didnt come close beating it
marble portal
what level is SS Gio?
he's def clunky as hell with low levels
I barely scraped by with a 5/5 SS Gio and that's only cuz he has First Aid 6
vale path
how are people doing subway mission 7 (Part 1 with Battle Partner) without ingo
actually silly question
Would the Neo Kalos duo work
valid raft
or does he have hostile environment hold on
He does
vale path
only 1
valid raft
Sacred Fire is 50%, with HE1, it's 100%
valid raft
HE1 is x2 chance
vale path
valid raft
The formula goes like this:
Base Chance * (x + 1)
x being things like Hostile Environment or Aggravation
vale path
the next problem is dealing with CS9
Update: Serena clutch
Aaaaand in all that chaos I forgot to finish the dailies
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
rotund oasis
1% 😮
vale path
ok now what the hell is part 3
stable storm
ok now what the hell is part 3
have unflappable or team interference immunity giver like ss Lear or eri
vale path
mfw i spent 15k to fail eri
i think i might've spent more
18 at least but still
can rei work
rotund oasis
you'll need electric terrain and anti flinch units.
vale path
electric terrain for part 3?
rotund oasis
yeah for part 3, these are my clear teams.
vale path
Is it worth 5/5ing Rei
stable storm
can rei work
yes, what move level btw
snow spruce
<@364660028461940737> how do you think she compares to base Lance
~equal overall I guess, but for the synergy with AS Lance specifically I think she is better than OG Lance and at minimum comparable to NC Nate
AoE and zone are THE 2 things AS Lance wants and she has them. Even 1 unextended zone is enough to majorly boost ASLance B-move at the right time
I wasnt sure that fast Noland clear would work, but it did beautifully
It also helps that she is Special, so also gets fully boosted by Chase circle, unlike the physical Nate (or OG Lances physical sync)
stable storm
~~Is it worth 5/5ing Rei~~
no
vale path
just got him to 3/5 for the 2 fx cancels
stable storm
~equal overall I guess, but for the synergy with AS Lance specifically I think s...
who
vale path
think it unlocks at 2/5 but eh
stable storm
oh ssc
vale path
wait how was their sleep triggered again
go viral or aoe attack induced
paper mural
The left side has passive that put sleep if it hit opponent(s), so if it's an aoe move it's aoe sleep.
The right side has flinch version of it, but in this stage it's recommended to put unflappable on everyone.
vale path
as it turns out i had to tweak my cynthia's grid a little
but still
thanks for the info
also TIL E Terrain cancels sleep
paper mural
So what's an actual viable strategy that doesn't involve maxed out Master Fairs?...
EX Mewtwo can beat it. It's just apply status than spam your strongest special striker really.
paper mural
You sure about SS Giovani? Because it didnt come close beating it
You have Arc Cynthia, you just use her main strike and let SS Gio stay to fulfill the mission.
olive hull
EX Mewtwo can beat it. It's just apply status than spam your strongest special s...
I had tried Elaine, Geeta, SS Serena, to no avail. Can't even get center to 50%.
stable tundra
i don't see any means of neglecting speed debuffs in that comp
olive hull
Yeah, I found that out. I switched Elaine to Lodge Dawn and it still wasn't enough, so I gave up on it for now
stable tundra
Lodge Dawn is frail so replacing Elaine with her is not a good idea
Zerena also doesn't have enough firepower to clear quickly
just bring your strongest supports (NC Blue, NC Rosa) and your best special dmg dealer
dim lance
~equal overall I guess, but for the synergy with AS Lance specifically I think s...
Yeah she becomes very blitz-tied
But has the firepower itself to play blitz
olive hull
I thought Zerena was among my strongest special damage dealers
stable tundra
she is nowhere strong as most tech nukers
olive hull
okay, let me see what I have
paper mural
Maybe Sycamore with speed buff and impervious could be a better tank.
olive hull
Tried with SS Hau and NC Serena. That aint it either
stable tundra
if you are using Sycamore with them, who is the status inflictor
olive hull
Geeta was still the third
stable tundra
is your Hau 3/5?
olive hull
3/5 EXR. Was supposed to be my main damage dealer but I still couldn't get past 60%
stable tundra
i think you should show us your whole roster here
olive hull
any filters in particular?
stable tundra
just show everyone
snow spruce
Yeah she becomes very blitz-tied
Noland and Palmer clears are blitzy. Evelyn was a slog with 320K hp sides, but still works
dim lance
Noland and Palmer clears are blitzy. Evelyn was a slog with 320K hp sides, but s...
She does become very Nate like
I'd argue she's still worse than Nate for that role outside of MPR zooms
because her duration is lower, no compensatory steroid in the form of circle
and after zone is gone she falls off quite hard, I think
but I do think her window of power is strong enough to warrant use over Lance, who is more of a slow and steady unit whose side clear is still kinda ehh
warm haven
I believe Cynthia is better for blitz while nate for long fights
dim lance
Nate is not meant for long fights anyway so
Cynthia is just 'faster' up to a point
Nate has a slightly longer duration and bolsters different parts of Lance
I'm more curious on Lucas/SS Cynthia variants where zone lasts long
complementary ramp exists
at the expense of less checks
vale path
How da hail did Serena clutch me twice today-
snow spruce
I dont really see her worse than Nate. She doesnt have circle, but she has 280BP AoE attack every turn, instead of 300+ BP every 3 turns. Thats more than enough to compensate IMO
if anything she becomes > Nate the longer the fight goes (after both zones have run out and maybe Nates circles too) especially since her gauge is always 0. Its just steady AoE damage every turn
I think they're comparable and both are easily > 10/5 Lance if using with AS Lance
as for Lucas I have him at 5/5 EXR, but he was nowhere near as strong as 4/5 AS Lance. Not even close (like Lucas + SS Cynthia have no hope of doing Palmer pre-max move for example).
10/5 Lucas is better, but I'm sure ASL would still be better
Lucas is needed for stages that require 100% WZT uptime (Darach, Leon, Gio), but is a clear downgrade from ASL overall.
He would need both 10/5 some kind of strong Sinnoh Special circle support to compete IMO
stable storm
I'm more curious on Lucas/SS Cynthia variants where zone lasts long
the damage there seems like it wouldn't be that high tbh
stable storm
I dont really see her worse than Nate. She doesnt have circle, but she has 280BP...
she doesn't give pmun stacks tho