Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles

[void elbow]

...........not yet..

[lunar sedge]

Ah... I tested with mine which is EX+R

I feel like a support sync might be necessary due to just how fat the mid HP is

[final yacht]

Oh thanks for that

[stable tundra]

You can try an EX support

[void elbow]

I have no EX support tho

[valid raft]

Not a single one?

[lunar sedge]

You should ex some supports

They're quite essential in challenge contents

[void elbow]

No

||man I love embarrassing myself||

[pearl pewter]

just run it without EX and see how far you get

[stable tundra]

The event runs for a long while, no need to be stressed out

In the meantime you can collect enough materials to EX supports

[void elbow]

I might consider using OG ingo instead ngl-
He's a support and has potion which helps cuz healing
And also ingo and ingo in a team is funny/hj

[zealous dust]

only got one mission cleared w this team (sygna suit) but it was very quick

[arctic mist]

Is there somewhere I can view the opponents' stats, passives etc. for EBEs, like the Champion Stadium listings in PoMaTools?

[mental jasper]

All of those are in the pastebin docs for the version they were introduced in

[valid raft]

The event battles stats can be seen in the pastebin

[arctic mist]

I'm struggling to find them...
I currently am stuck with some of the missions on Pasio Subway. This Cofagrigus is proving quite tricky to deal with.
I am no longer missing any of missions 1 to 7.

[mental jasper]

You're looking in the (2.50.0) Quest doc?

[arctic mist]

Where's the document?

[mental jasper]

absolutely's pastebin

[arctic mist]

???

[mental jasper]

https://pastebin.com/u/Absol-utely

every time a new battle is added, all of its stats and passives are added in the quest doc corresponding to the version it was added in

[hardy wind]

Holy shit this was so freaking close....

[arctic mist]

Just 7 to go...

[spring hazel]

how do I defeat this? Ghost is arguably my strongest type yet I’ve been barely close on defeating this at all

[pale mica]

who was this battle made for exactly

Cuz I'm struggling like in the Iono battle

[valid raft]

It's not made for anything specific

[valid raft]

What boost is it?

[pale mica]

Special Costume, Alola and Unova

[zealous dust]

you may want to use pairs that can get haste/impervious and vigilance

and a speed debuffer as well

[valid raft]

Anni Lillie 2024 can destroy them all

[pale mica]

Can I replace someone in this team

[arctic mist]

You need both a Status condition (Poison/Burn/Paralysis) and Status Change (e.g. Type Rebuff, Trap, Confusion) to do effective damage here, I've found - the opponents benefit offensively from not having these, so you can't easily bypass with Piercing Blows or similar...

[valid raft]

Replace your main damage dealer

[zealous dust]

you could probably run skyla, solgalillie, and ghetsis if you have em

[arctic mist]

Why do you have Skyla and Swanna THIRD, anyway‽

[pale mica]

well that's done with

[pale mica]

Cuz this was taken before I switched her

[spring hazel]

What team do you suggest me using with my units?

It’s kinda tough. I have a poison and fire team that could do the former, but don’t have any effective support to do the latter. I have the arc units to do type rebuffs, but also don’t have a support to do the former 🫠

[arctic mist]

Have you got Lucy & Seviper? The fact that they can both Trap and Poison can help here...

I'm not sure which supports/main attackers to recommend, as our available units differ significantly, unfortunately. Do be careful if you use Ghost Zone, as that does help out Cofagrigus.

[marble flume]

Oh, wait, wrong battle

Thought they were talking about the Subway Bros EBE

My bad

[covert marlin]

potent toxin 10 units when

[tulip stream]

huh this one is actually fairly easy w/ the right units exr

[bold pumice]

yeah i felt like that was one of the easiest UBs?

genuinely spent so much time on Nita, then i do my last two which were MR and Evelyn and was like "huh, ok, that was fast"

[tulip stream]

still have giovanni, nita, latios evelyn to do

i cant even touch nita

gio needs some exr units i cant be assed to invest in

[fading walrus]

It's really easy with just 1 invested poison premium

[tulip stream]

latios evelyn idk bc i def dont have the right support for that

[fading walrus]

Offtype is already much more rough

[bold pumice]

yeah i had pmuch the same team as Citrine except i used Steven

absolutely slapped it

[fading walrus]

MR offtype is really cringe

Evelyn is much easier to offtype

And to clear in general

As debuffing is something a ton of units do even at 1/5

[tulip stream]

fairy weak evelyn tho

shes another story

[fading walrus]

?

We're talking about the UB, yes

[tulip stream]

the one w/ latios

[fading walrus]

Yes?

She's really easy

Not the easy easy tier

But definitely not harsh as many other UBs

MR himself is much harder

[tulip stream]

huh i tried her and lost despite having ss gladion

[fading walrus]

Plus Evelyn can be extended a crapton

Because X crit all

Not sure crit all

Means haze or stat steal can make her muuuch tamer

Meanwhile you have to crit shield or vigi for MR

[fading walrus]

As someone with a very low invested fairy roster, I had to offtype

But the fact I got close with Volo, SS mina & penny, all 3/5 non Rolex

Means the stage can't be TOO bad

Gio and Royale are a whole other tier of difficulty imi

[tulip stream]

My ss mina is unfortunately 1/5

[fading walrus]

Imo*

[tulip stream]

gonna need to find an alternative

arc steven 1/5

[fading walrus]

No penny?

Good enough

[tulip stream]

no penny

[fading walrus]

Ah

[solar stirrup]

guys

what is this subway battle challenge

with the coffin with a trillion hp

[fading walrus]

It's a breeze

[tulip stream]

might drop in geeta somehow

[solar stirrup]

what did you use

i got dmg checked

[fading walrus]

7/7 themes

[solar stirrup]

huh

you needed 7/7 themes for it?

[fading walrus]

Roxie is 3/5 Rolex but you can easily clear without that

[fading walrus]

No

I just wanted to do it in one run

[solar stirrup]

idk how im getting dmg checked\

[fading walrus]

And with as few limiteds as possible

[fading walrus]

Are you not burn + trapping?

[solar stirrup]

you need burn and trap?

[fading walrus]

You need status + interference

[solar stirrup]

I was trying to brute force it 💀

[fading walrus]

Burn is best

Trap is best

For each

Hence why Evelyn + BP cheryl

They solve 2/2

Albeit Evelyn is 50%

As long as you burn mid by turn 3 you're fine

Then aim burn at sides

[solar stirrup]

ill try ss hilda anni raihan nc blue

[fading walrus]

Also they max defences and regen lotta hp

[fading walrus]

That works

Trap + para

Special moves are recommended

[solar stirrup]

got sandstorm as well

its dying

[fading walrus]

Wtz is not really needeed

[solar stirrup]

Do I need vigilance

died at second sync

[fading walrus]

You shouldn't let them get there

Tbh

[solar stirrup]

sometimes they dont take burn damage

[fading walrus]

Is Hilda sync Phys?

[solar stirrup]

yes

[fading walrus]

They should tho

[solar stirrup]

they're burnt on my screen idk

[fading walrus]

Just grab your best special damage unit

[solar stirrup]

nc leaf.....

[fading walrus]

Uhhhh

I mean

That can prob still work ig

[snow spruce]

double Cynthias + Steven - Palmer, Leon, Noland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEE6NAbisYc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-xwqQdbhG0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJVsy5Vkuzc

Nita should be doable too, but I'm pretty sure it requires perfect flinch quad-queues to deny enough speed buffs, I cant do that, QQ skill issue

[rigid pivot]

Man.

SUPER annoying

If only my bt leon was 4/5 then maybe

[snow spruce]

btw that method of clearing Noland makes it much easier
the 3-rd pair basically ONLY needs to have -1 sync count anywhere in some form and HS1 LS (so total -2), thats enough, they dont do anything else
And in theory you can replace WW3 on ASC with HS1 too and then you dont even need the extra -1. Then you can maybe even clear Noland with Arc Duo + eggmons
so no more max guard needed

[shrewd marten]

You should have more sync buffs than that

[violet tundra]

how do i get scores beyond Youngster for the training challenge thing

[mental jasper]

#1255888121648644197 is a great place to start for that!

[violet tundra]

tyy

[snow spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIrOOhbVd-Q

[warm haven]

lmao

[rigid pivot]

Unfortantly no, i sync’d with Steven then lillie twice

But got delayed for lillie bevause steven’s sync makes me lose a turn

[shrewd marten]

Look at super awaken

They made ss Ethan work

[white ledge]

i took a look at the above screenshot and realized if a literal do-nothing sync pair can beat noland if it just eats a fissure i should be able to do him with actually good units

[civic cedar]

What is the best pokemon with sinnoh theme

I can't get that done

[shrewd marten]

Well arc cynthia

But you should post what units you have

[tulip stream]

finally

3/5 exr ssa cynthia / 3/5 ex ss gladion / 1/5 exr oleana

just barely got the last sync in

only nita and gio left

that b move is great

shame you can only use it twice

[civic cedar]

Here what I got

[stable tundra]

Is this for the Extreme Battle Event part 1?

[autumn cipher]

Is there a good F2P team for the first fancy outfits battle? It ends in an hour and I still don’t have it done

[autumn cipher]

Nvm got it

[formal matrix]

Just curious, can SA Akari duo Giovanni UB now?

[valid raft]

Duo with who exactly?

[formal matrix]

Anyone, like arc Steven or any other support. Just want to see if Akari after SA can do more things she can’t do before (she already has new war crimes in LG thanks to that)

[vale pivot]

I'm Will be cooked?

[stable tundra]

you got no stat remover, so yes

[vale pivot]

What i can do?

[rich heron]

Stat remover necessary coz he increase all stats on tm

Whether you have them lowered or not

Ig

I am not sure abt this part

[stable tundra]

i highly recommend reading the details and gimmicks of each Ultimate Battle, by checking the pins. Attempting to clear them without being aware of their gimmicks is heavily discouraged

[stable storm]

imo the comp is fine the move levels are an issue

[stable tundra]

his TMs max offensive stats quickly so the only good way is removing them at once

[stable storm]

@vale pivot the comp could clear giovanni but not in it's current state as 3/5 on akari and Giacomo is required to have enough damage

[stable tundra]

i'm not certain if 5/5 Giacomo and 5/5 Akari can clear before Giovanni wrecking them

[stable storm]

quite a few dark comps do gio without a stat remover but they have big damage

[stable tundra]

remember that Giovanni's TMs are used when he reaches the endures

oh is 5/5 Giacomo clear documented?

[stable storm]

It's available on yt

all giacomo comps I have seen brute force gii

*gio

[stable storm]

that's a key part of clears that cheese gio btw

You can force him to waste 2 turns buffing if you deal enough damage

to trigger 2 endures in rapid succession

@vale pivot do you have penny

or sc zinnia

or even lear 4/5

[shrewd marten]

Yeah they can

I’ve done it with arven akari metagross

[stable tundra]

[vale pivot]

no
no
and no...

[snow spruce]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J_Wf9t4ZIOMwdlYEsIzgENDdYCut-AEX0pJiwbcIrVY/edit?gid=1848852370#gid=1848852370
this says Electric Terrain (1) for the sidemon
but apparently (info from those who did it in rally) its infinite use E.T. not 1.

Only gets used after mid is dead

https://pastebin.com/vALuHRxR
Although the pastebin also says
Move 4: Electric Terrain (Uses 1)
hmm

[grand herald]

Any good f2p Pasio Subway team comps?

[frozen meteor]

Hse team for ub is weird

Team only has one sp.atk debuffer so no wonder

[karmic onyx]

what does robust body do?

i cant seem to do any decent damage with fhe pasio event

[valid raft]

Prevents you from critting if enemy is not inflicted with a status condition

[dim lance]

One down, some to go

[valid raft]

I see steel team is rising in the ranks

[acoustic needle]

which of these runs is the easiest to perform?

VS Nita BL.

[valid raft]

Why not try each team?

[acoustic needle]

it takes a while to reconfigure for each team.

[valid raft]

Each team in the docs have their own difficulty

So it's up to you to find which team is the easiest for you

[stable tundra]

Assuming your investments are the same as the documented clears, the Cheren one is easiest to duplicate, because he checks the speed gimmick on his own

[acoustic needle]

the speed was my biggest issue, thank you.

[dim lance]

Another one

[formal matrix]

Is that 5/5 or 10/5 Rose?

[dim lance]

5/5

Not 10/5

I wish mine was 10/5

[void elbow]

LETSS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Getting redlax EX was worth it

[stable tundra]

Congrats, now you have to worry about the theme skill missions

In order to get the exclusive titles

[void elbow]

......seriously tho-
I looked at the missions and said
"Shinnoh?.........gym leader?........ARTISTIC!?"
LIKE HOW THE FU-

[spark isle]

Regarding Nita's ultinate battle, what are some good units that i could use along side arc cynthia? (I have 3/5 NC Rosa And Blue plus 1/5 arc steven as busted supports)

[stable tundra]

You have Ingo at least, so you can try using Redlax + him + the unit whose theme skills meet the requirements. Repeat until you complete all 7 missions

[void elbow]

time to suffer ingo and redlax then❗❗/J

[stable tundra]

Your Arc Steven is too underinvested to brute force Nita

Do you have NC Cheren or Irida

[spark isle]

A team that knocked out many missions for me was, SS Morty, SS Korrina and Nemoma

[spark isle]

No unfortunately i couldn't get NC Cheren

I'm saving for Irida this month

[stable tundra]

So there is no chance to clear Nita for you unfortunately

[spark isle]

Even if i slap arc cynthia and NC Red on the team?

Oh wait no speed debuffs

[stable tundra]

I believe 3/5 Cynthia has speed debuffs, but the problem is surviving Nita's sand boosted attacks

And eventually Nita will outpace Cynthia's debuffs

[spark isle]

I could use maybe SS Morty for getting rid of the sand?

Closest i really got from beating that battle was NC blue Red and tech Lapras

[stable tundra]

I would keep trying with the Lapras clear

[spark isle]

Oh well i guess i'll really have to wait to get Irida

[spark isle]

Tried on multiple ocasions, just couldn't get everything eight

[stable tundra]

Irida needs 3/5 mind you

[spark isle]

Its like sonething is missing

[stable tundra]

It is a nightmarish clear, so i understand

I assume you got a good skill gear set for the team

[spark isle]

I mostly use the events ones

That give boosts to multiple party members

[stable tundra]

They are not ideal

Because the stats are not good enough

[void elbow]

First try
ez

[spark isle]

Then maybe i should try to create one specificaly for that battle

Aside from nita my only other uncleared UB is masked royal

You think 3/5 SS Roxie, 1/5 Oleana and Oak could clear it?

[void elbow]

I think the moment I EX'D red is where EVERYTHING became easy for me
his double sync buff with his "you and me!" Skill DEFINITELY helped ingo like CRAZY

[cinder salmon]

Any spreadsheet for the current train track event for good sync pairs?

[quick dove]

This event sucks

[cinder salmon]

I just used arc steven, chase and irida, and it was surprisingly easy

[quick dove]

It seems fine

Until the second sync gets you

[cinder salmon]

I tried paralysis instead of burn and it did just fine

[bright python]

What's the gimmick for submas ebe 2

[gentle wharf]

Alright this second track missions are

Unova
Galar
Gym Leader
Battle Facility Foe
Sygna Suit
Battle Partner
Grown Woman

Those are the hints we get

Alright nothing to it but to do it

[rich heron]

What's the point of doing missions tbh

[valid raft]

• Melony: Galar/Gym Leader/Grown Woman
• Battle Chatelaine Sisters: Battle Facility Foe/Battle Partner
• SS Hilda: Unova/Sygna Suit

[rich heron]

If it's not gems

[halcyon mango]

Needing to brute force through the interference needs with that lineup.

[valid raft]

Fixed now

You need to get lucky in burning with SS Hilda on mid

[rich heron]

Where is terrain remover

[rustic wolf]

ezpz

[valid raft]

Ok, this is tougher than the 1st one for me

Wait, Morgan is not just Battle Facility Foe/Battle Partner, she's also Grown Woman

[gentle wharf]

Holy crao this was annoying lol

Managed to do every mission in one go again haha

I needed to blow off some steam lol

[frail kraken]

ok how tough is the second train battle without ss emmet

[valid raft]

So close

[frail kraken]

i need to recheck ss piers' grid

hoping that'll come in handy for this fight

[gentle wharf]

Entirely depends on your roster and how many missions you want to do all at once haha

Like the previous fight they have Tough Skin 5, and they’re all weak to Electric

I do believe we need to land a status effect and negative status condition on them

But Slowbro sets up Psychic Terrain which makes him immune to it so land it beforehand or get rid of the terrain

[frail kraken]

oh thats a job for ss piers then kinda

[valid raft]

Man, having SS N woukd be nice for this fight

[prisma temple]

What team that matches all 7 missions are y'all using for the second one

[prisma temple]

This fulfils all 7 missions yeah?

[gentle wharf]

Yes it does

Leon has Galar and Battle Facility Foe, SS Roxie has Unova, Gym Leader, and Sygna Suit, and BP Cheryl has Battle Partner and Grown Woman

[prisma temple]

Thank you very much
I can confirm this works
With both limited unit at 1/5 uncaked

[dim lance]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wgtugmu92c

Rose gauge is not really an issue without the 5/5 passive really

[warm haven]

That's nice

[dim lance]

I have the marnie clear too

tbh I should've ran revenge boost on steven and impervious on rose but

oh well

against Thorton I mean

[stable storm]

did you mean with the

[dim lance]

No, you don't need it

I didn't run it for the Lillie clear

You only need it if fsr you're being greedy as hell compositionally or LG

[valid raft]

This sucks majorly

At best I can do 6/7 missions in 1 team

[spiral summit]

All 1/5

[valid raft]

I'm not sure if Morgan/SS Roxie/Gordie will clear

[left crow]

I was today years old when i learned you only need 1 of each unit with the theme skill to fulfill the missions.

but frost it literally says there 1 the way it was worded seems like 1 pair needs to share a common theme skill

[final yacht]

bruh

[dense sapphire]

Would EX base Elesa work against this day's Subway EBE? 😭

[fading walrus]

Another BC where Roxie cheats

And can do 7/7 with two freebies

🙏

[fading walrus]

If Roxie is 3/5 she definitely can

Also Dana works great here too

If not better

[plush gale]

https://youtu.be/DhKTC_nm5UE

[left crow]

Ss Roxie and ss piers rock this battle out

[pine sonnet]

I’m sure it goes without saying, but SST slaps this stage really quickly. No themes outside of SS, but doing the fight more than once isn’t daunting with him there

[rotund oasis]

i actually used melony, sst red and ingo

i synced with sst red twice, and then a few bmoves down, mid died 😮

[valid raft]

I really hate that I have to do this battle in 2 teams

I have the gimmick counters with Melony/SS Hilda/Evelyn, it's just that damned Tough Skin and Precognition that's the problem

[fading walrus]

If Roxie gets eterrain extension as awakening

It's gonna be so fucking funny

[north locust]

Assuming Kabu is not essential here, how did you get this to work?

[spiral summit]

Just ET after Psychic Wish

Reset for Para mid to debuff SpA

[north locust]

I must be doing something wrong then

[spiral summit]

Do you use her Electric move ?

Her Electric move hit harder than B Move here

[north locust]

Yea

[fading walrus]

Is your Roxie 1/5?

Or 3/5

[north locust]

1/5, but Pykuo clarified that their Roxie is also 1/5

[fading walrus]

Well 1/5 definitely struggles a fair bit more

[hard lantern]

almost the same as my team
#1250858626311258132 message

[hard lantern]

oh that's a good team. SEUN would really help against tough skin.

[north locust]

I am heavily considering upgrading her, but thinking about the potential opportunity cost is ramping my anxiety

[pine sonnet]

Are you trapping

[fading walrus]

No shame in waiting

Took me almost 2 years to 3/5 NC serena

[pine sonnet]

I still haven’t!

[fading walrus]

I didn't need to in the end

But I just felt like I had enough leeway

[void elbow]

FIRST TRY

[valid raft]

Where gym leader unit

[void elbow]

I'm working on that......
its a pain

[north chasm]

mono ice team that clears all 7 missions

wasn’t easy though why does that slowbro have 10 million hp

[final yacht]

111000 hp

bro's living in binary

[cosmic token]

Everyone but Unova.
…And Unova

[zealous dust]

in theory, this team completes all 7 missions, tho it probably needs more investment than i can give at the moment

[marble flume]

Elesa would literally only be there for the Theme Skills, but it might be worth a shot and seeing how it goes

[zealous dust]

i've been trying it on and off. been able to take out mid a few times, but i don't last much longer

[final yacht]

Try a different gym leader, probably a more defensive one

[zealous dust]

true

[final yacht]

Or Volkner, for more electric terrain uptime

[zealous dust]

i'll see who i've got kicking around

[marble flume]

Worst case scenario you can always do multiple runs for the Theme Skills

[zealous dust]

oh i know lol. this is just like a puzzle to me now

i'll do some testing with volkner and ss morty and maybe skyla

[alpine quiver]

"Interference"

[bold escarp]

This made me notice how little amount of electric pair scouts I have

[final yacht]

it healed from flinch before your sync somehow

that's why it didnt do as much

[alpine quiver]

Yeah

That's why I posted it

It was barely a flinch
It wasnt fair

[fading walrus]

The 2 frames heal

Rofl

[alpine quiver]

That's seven minutes of my life I'll never get back

[final yacht]

Seven minutes is nothing

[fading walrus]

Is there a reason you're running SS elesa over Sonia

[low coral]

Flinch duration is random, and since you has to wait a bit to click on Sync, it gave the game a window

[alpine quiver]

Sygna Suit mission

[fading walrus]

Sure but then ain't you missing galar anyway

[alpine quiver]

I used two other teams to complete the missions

[fading walrus]

Ahhh

[low coral]

It prob wouldn't be the case if the sync was already queued before, but clicking it with the same unit that flinched can sometimes risk that

[alpine quiver]

I've already completed six of the missions
I just need Sygna Suit

I wanna do them the F2P way

[fading walrus]

Well I'm pretty sure there's much better options than the other 2 units for this

[alpine quiver]

Gonna try Aaron, but Blizzard is scary

[zealous dust]

blizzard has bad accuracy, you'll be fine :) <- (cope)

[alpine quiver]

At +2 Sp.Atk, it may as well be a Sheer Cold

[zealous dust]

oh absolutely

[alpine quiver]

Cool

[zealous dust]

cool!!

[simple anchor]

quite a clutch

[void elbow]

CLOSE CALL HOLY SH-

anyways I finished the missions for round 2

[halcyon mango]

2 similar situation back to back

[void elbow]

LOL I JUST NOTICED

[halcyon mango]

Only 35 to go

[novel fog]

Any recommendations for teams for the 2nd battle for non Ingo & Emmet havers ?

PF EBEs are harder than MF EBEs for some reason

[stable tundra]

You can scroll above to find teams that can clear all missions at once

[paper mural]

https://youtu.be/vEC8nvISWTY?si=39l1iXsnRcsHr-hn
Its only THAT hard when you try to fulfill all missions at once.

[snow spruce]

Nemona doomsday is nearly upon is

[marble portal]

so what we thinking

is SS Lana/VElio a must

[noble sapphire]

Yeah I got no idea how to clear Part 2.

[low coral]

The big thing is having a good Grassy/Psychic Terrain setter

So SS Lyra, SS Lana, even someone like Mix Red is prob enough

The other gimmick is easier to deal with, just don't focus purely on rebuff, something like Restrain will also be good

[final yacht]

Where the Mean Look units at

[snow spruce]

restrain or trap

since Nemona loses Grounding Wire without terrain

[low coral]

Restrain is easier since it bypasses Resilience

So that's why I recommend it first

[snow spruce]

Nemona doesnt have resilience, right? since she has perma immune to stuns (flinch freeze sleep)
UBs immune to stuns never had resilience IIRC

[low coral]

They don't list it, but I'm fairly sure they do have it, no?

At least I think Argenta had it

[fading walrus]

Yeah Argenta had it iirc

[noble sapphire]

I have all of the Tapu, Adaman, and SS-Lyra.

Would a team of Acerola/Lyra/Adaman work?

At least for one team?

[valid raft]

You'd have to time Acerola syncing

Ah wait, Lyra

[noble sapphire]

Acerola's not 6*EX.

[warm haven]

Argenta didt have resilience. The ones that dont have resilience have straight up stun immunity

same as nemona

[snow spruce]

if they dont list resilience then they dont have it, but then they DO have stun immunes (even if thats not listed)
it was like for all UBs so far IIRC. Leon was the same
and Argenta had Move: Remove Interference 9, idt she had Resilience ? Because you could reapply trap/confusion to her over and over again

Yeah Nemona has stun immune as perma, but no resilience. Same as Leon, MR etc.
and then she also has grounding wire on top of that
So if you remove terrain - trap is a great vs her.

[valid raft]

UBs that have Resilience don't have disabling immunities. While UBs that do have disabling immunities have no Resilience

[snow spruce]

this makes it even easier for the Arc Duo to clear, since you dont have to save a first rebuff sync for after Nemonas sync, Cynthias trap will take care of it

[valid raft]

You'd need a terrain replacer since she has Grounding Wire

[snow spruce]

ofc you need a terrain replacer too, she is not doable period without removing terrain.
You would just die before Grounding Wire is even an issue

[noble sapphire]

It took me this long to realize that this was about the Nemona UB & not Part 2 of the EBE.

I'm gonna go now.

[snow spruce]

for the Part 2 - use your physical Electric pair (or just the best Physical dps) and make sure to apply status cond. and interfernce

[valid raft]

Ah yes, ignore Tough Skin 5

[fading walrus]

Electric pairs

[valid raft]

Physical electric

[fading walrus]

Tough skin is for non effective damage

Electrics are ontype

Am I missing something

[valid raft]

"Or just the best physical DPS"

Also they have Wise Entry x3

Just saying only

[fading walrus]

I mean

I used a special electric

So I think you can use a Phys offtype without much problems

[snow spruce]

ofc you can offtype with a good physical, np

[fading walrus]

How much hp did cofag have

[valid raft]

Say that again to my SS Hilda

Also the missions sucks major ass this time because my Galar roster sucks majorly

And I don't have Leon (Alt. 2)

[fading walrus]

Sonia checks a lot of round 2

Def buffs, Def debuffs, para fish, grown woman + galar

[valid raft]

I used Melony instead

Galar/Gym Leader/Grown Woman

And she has screens too

I just wished SS Roxie could've done more for me

Actually, with SS Roxie, I'm not sure who counters negative status change

[fading walrus]

I used her on both stages

Very chill clears

Nobody died

[valid raft]

Well, with your unirs sure

[fading walrus]

My units?

[valid raft]

But I only have the Battle Chatelaine Sisters for Battle Facility Foe/Battle Partner

[fading walrus]

Exless Evelyn + exless BP Cheryl on stage 1
Sonia ex + Dana ex on stage 2

[valid raft]

And either Melony or Sonia for Galar/Grown Woman

[fading walrus]

And again, it wasn't even close

Sonia ex is irrelevant as she didn't even sync

[fading walrus]

Evelyn and Dana 1/5 are enough

[low coral]

Do you mean alongside the missions?

Just a good physical DPS does work fine without the missions

[valid raft]

I'd rather do the missions in one go. Also, I've already completed it, I've just been overworrying about the Wise Entry x3

[solar stirrup]

Damn best fighting team in the game is good Amazing advice

[rigid pivot]

If only I had an extra 3 copies on leon…

Then maybe

[shrewd marten]

Try a different comp?

[rigid pivot]

Well the thing is I don’t really have another choice, classic elsya is weak to ice I don’t have nc blue or geeta/olena and my Steven is 1/5

[true lagoon]

put ice guard on classic oh wait that only works for moves not syncs

[shrewd marten]

Classic has max guard doesn’t she

Shouldn’t matter

[true lagoon]

i mean what does she die to even

it should only really be syncs that can threaten her

cuz the aoe moves the sides use arent ice type

and blizzard isnt that hard to manage if you keep offenses lowered

[snow spruce]

use Colress ? he has go viral

[rigid pivot]

Auto dies 2nd sync

[true lagoon]

even with vigilance?

[rigid pivot]

Yeah

She takes like

1k

[rigid pivot]

Well the issue is the attack buffs screw me over

[true lagoon]

would probably need to save light screen for later then

[rigid pivot]

Also the 2nd blizzard post sync also basically one shot elsya too

[true lagoon]

unless its physical in which case uhhhhhhh

[rigid pivot]

For the longest time I tried Steven/ss Roxie/classic elsya but I just don’t have the dps for it

And again elsya just dies 2nd sync or I don’t have ennough debuffs on the sides Espically

[snow spruce]

3/5 EXR SS roxie should kill him before second sync

[rigid pivot]

Well like most of the time it’s a mess of rng because the sides keep buffing speed and that makes the Aoe moves HURT

[true lagoon]

janine would probably help if ur using roxie cuz of theme skills and being able to repoison

and this is a serious suggestion fyi

[rigid pivot]

Yeahhhhhh aboit that

[true lagoon]

uh if that happens im guessing arc steven is not 4/5

[snow spruce]

arc steven really wants that 4/5, its a pretty huge deal

[rigid pivot]

Well the issue with THAT is I do not have 3 gold candies + I feel like it’s better to give 2 to cythina (arc) first anyway she’s at 1/5 too

[true lagoon]

i mean i get that but i think you're just going to have to give up on it for now

[rigid pivot]

Yeah it’s unfortante

[rigid pivot]

This was one of the closest I got but I don’t have 3/5+ leon for that go viral 9

And he isn’t weak to damn ice lol

And yeah there’s colress but the buffs get WAY out of hand

[snow spruce]

its ok to leave a troublesome UB for later

[rigid pivot]

What I’m hoping for is an nc blue rerun but I’m nervous but this gem count

Cause there’s Adaman this month, then probs 2 master fair/arc units december, and then January is maybe when the last anni reruns, and then March is half anni

It sucks lol

[snow spruce]

nc blue is weak to ice, it wouldnt be much easier

[rigid pivot]

yeah but he can at least debuff attack and special attack and such

also he's kinda broken lol

and unlike my other special supports like ss brendan and such he doesn't basically get insta killed by 2 physical moves

Maybe when I give chase 3/5 or Elaine they can also help idk

[snow spruce]

Chase wont help you.
3/5 Elaine would, she has atk/spatk debuffs and is basically a mini 4/5 assteven

[rigid pivot]

I remember people saying Elaine isn’t really the best for these battles until 5/5 which made me doubt raising her and how good she’ll be

[crude drum]

Elaine & Eevee

<:GRID_SYNC:967786997982830712> __Sync Tiles:__

(3) Partner Promenade Veevee Volley: Power +25
(3) Partner Promenade Veevee Volley: Power +25

<:GRID_MOVE:967786997265629195> __Move Tiles:__

(2) Let’s Go Together!: Slippery 1 - Raises the user's evasiveness by 1 stat rank when its move is successful.
(2) Protect: Move Gauge Refresh 4 - Has a chance (50%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when its move is successful.
(2) Swift: Move Gauge Refresh 3 - Has a chance (40%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when its move is successful.

‎

(3) Let’s Go Together!: Barricade Buddies 2 - Raises the Sp. Def of all allied sync pairs by 2 stat ranks when the user's move is successful.
(3) Let’s Go Together!: Move: Team Attack ↑ & Sp. Atk ↑ 9 - Raises the Attack and Sp. Atk of all allied sync pairs by 1 stat rank when the user's move is successful.
(3) Let’s Go Together!: Shielded 2 - Raises the Defense of all allied sync pairs by 2 stat ranks when the user's move is successful.
(3) Let’s Go Together!: Team Hit and Heal - Applies the Gradual Healing effect to all allied sync pairs when the user's move is successful.

‎

(5) Let’s Go Together!: T-Move: HP Recovery (M) 9 - Restores the user's HP when its Trainer uses a move.

<:GRID_PASSIVE:967786997215264808> __Passive Tiles:__

(1) Escape Artist - Prevents the user from becoming trapped.
(1) Unflappable - Prevents the user from flinching.

‎

(2) Brain Brawn 2 - Reduces damage when the user is hit by a special attack move.
(2) Stalwart - Sp. Def cannot be lowered.
(2) Sterner Stuff 2 - Reduces damage when the user is hit by a physical attack move.
(2) Team Pinpoint Entry 1 - Raises the accuracy of all allied sync pairs by 1 stat rank when the user enters a battle.
(2) Unbending - Defense cannot be lowered.

‎

(3) Overwhelm 9 - Lowers the target's Attack by one stat rank when the user's attack move against it is successful.
(3) S-Move: Team HP Recovery (M) 1 - Restores the HP of all allied sync pairs by approximately 20% of their maximum HP after using the user's sync move.
(3) Satisfied Snicker 9 - Lowers the target's Sp. Atk by 1 stat rank when the user's attack move against it is successful.
(3) Status Immunity - Status conditions cannot be inflicted on the user.

‎

(4) Hit: Interference (1 Kind) 9 - Leaves the target either flinching, confused, or trapped when the user's attack move against it is successful.
(4) S-Move: Team Physical Boost ↑2 9 - Increases the Physical Moves ↑ Next effect of all allied sync pairs by 2 ranks after using the user's sync move.

‎

(5) Safety Net - Applies the Enduring effect to all allied sync pairs the first time the user's sync move is used each battle.

[zealous dust]

i keep getting so close

[zealous dust]

pain and suffering

[civic cedar]

I need help completing the part one with Gym leader, Artistic, and Battle Partner

[gentle wharf]

Hmm yeah just remembered about SS Lyra

Might be useful Vs Nemona…

[shrewd marten]

sstr ingo and melony does everything for battle 2 in one battle

[fossil fjord]

Can I fill out the entire page before EoS?

[zealous dust]

you're only 2 away!! you've got this!

[fossil fjord]

I meant the entire screen worth of UBs

That's 19 more months

[zealous dust]

oh

good luck

[pale mica]

These are my battle rivals. Who should I use for the coffin battle

[olive hull]

Not sure how to win the second train battle. Middle takes almost no damage

[blazing forge]

i have not done the kukui ultimate battle yet, could someone suggest a team for the most comfy clear?

[olive hull]

Oh well, tried out some team comps and SST Red really carries for battle 2. Got all the challenges cleared using Elesa/Joltik, SS Piers. And then with Argenta and Dana

[alpine quiver]

The most comfy clear would be Arc Steven, Geeta, and Oleana

[blazing forge]

Don't have oleana sadly, but I do have the other two

[alpine quiver]

Well, maybe Janine?
Because you need to focus on the opponents' Atk., Sp.Atk, and Speed stats

[blazing forge]

how about nc blue?

[alpine quiver]

You could always try it

[alpine quiver]

Possible

The issue is that Speed stat

They do not play 😟

[blazing forge]

somehow i died to second sync (the one after sure crit)

😔

[alpine quiver]

I think I got lucky and debuffed speed just before their sync

Wasn't as lucky every other time, though. As you can see, they had +6

Blue was pretty much on the verge of KO every time they used their sync

[blazing forge]

was able to do it after a few more runs. thanks! (:

[alpine quiver]

Glad I could help!

[violet tundra]

what having a trash poison roster will do to you:

[zealous dust]

felt

[small basin]

felt x2

[zealous dust]

having a lot of trouble with round 2 of ebe. here are my units and teams i've been using
team 1
team 2
team 3

nope, scratch team 2. i just got my first clear w it

cannot make this up, folks

[rotund oasis]

Nemona incoming huh

[stable storm]

today will be fun af

[stable tundra]

SS Emmet is the intended unit for this round. For support you can try Skyla + Lenora with him

[zealous dust]

i will do just that, thank you

[stable tundra]

You can replace Lenora for an unit whose theme skills meet the missions' requirements. Repeat that until you complete all 7 missions for the part 2 battle

[zealous dust]

cool cool

not sure how im gonna get around the second psychic terrain tho

cuz i won't be able to take out slowbro before that

[stable tundra]

You can save max move or delay SS Emmet sync (when EX) for that

[stable storm]

I can't wait to beat up nemona

[onyx cedar]

[zealous dust]

opps are too strong when terrain is up to wait out the first proc, and i can't ex ss emmet

wait lenora doesn't have grown woman skill???

[crude drum]

Lenora & Watchog

Use Status P-Move on Opp: Sp. Def ↓ 9:

Lowers the target's Sp. Def by 1 stat rank when the user's Pokémon uses a status move targeting that opponent.

Debut: Field Special DR:

Applies the Special Damage Reduction effect to the allied field of play the first time the user enters a battle each battle.

Team Pinpoint Entry 2:

Raises the accuracy of all allied sync pairs by 2 stat ranks when the user enters a battle.

Themes:

Normal | Unova | Knowledgeable

[zealous dust]

messed up

[true lagoon]

its stupid tbh

brycen has gym leader but she doesnt even though both are canonically retired in this universe

[zealous dust]

yeah

fucken weird

[true lagoon]

then again ss leaf doesnt have mc

and shes 4 years old

[zealous dust]

maybe its cuz brycen-man is also here, so you could argue that regular is his gym leader "form", for lack of a better word

[stable tundra]

You can always bring Volkner for on demand terrain

The stage lasts long enough for you to gather enough resources to EX him

[zealous dust]

im trying volkner,ss emmet, and hop rn

[true lagoon]

issue with that logic is that brycen is a launch unit

[gentle wharf]

Welp

She’s here

[rotund oasis]

rip

damage challenge first

[dim lance]

Does Nemona remove Rebuff

[valid raft]

Upon syncing

At the same time, you can infinitely reapply negative status change to her

[dim lance]

it seems downright impossiblee without Lele or May tbh

[rotund oasis]

have may but difficult :/

[onyx cedar]

or Bianca

[stable storm]

how has nemo been

[stable storm]

she is supposed to be impossible without an et remover

[dim lance]

yeah but newsflash, idt you can slap lele and may on any team and problem solved

it also has an above average strength threshold

easily the hardest UB so far

you need invested components

[stable storm]

fitting for Nemo tbh

[gentle wharf]

Goddammit she keeps erasing her status and reapplying terrain

Yeah I can’t do it

[stable storm]

I beat it with 5/5 rosa, 5/5 Lear and 2/5 ss lana but it took me wayyyyy too many tries

@dim lance did you beat her yet

[dim lance]

i think i outright just can't

my psychic roster is completely dead

[stable storm]

what's your psychic roster

[dim lance]

no lele, 1/5 may

1/5 lusamine, 1/5 steven, 2/5 lear

like, lawl

no invested cynthia to bail me out either

[slow sky]

I think I can clear, just need the mpr and some move optimization

Haha bye Lemona

wasnt even an optimized run too

[stable tundra]

does Lusamine need cake 💀

[slow sky]

yeah all units are EXR there if they have it

[onyx cedar]

therem done...

[valid onyx]

Someone tell me if you did it with Jacq + Bianca

[covert marlin]

my girl Bianca just refuses to give mpr

[spiral summit]

[slow sky]

reset if your first use does not proc, dont take risks

[covert marlin]

my gosh, I think grass could clear this shit if Adaman could have a strike role
fk Dena

could not clear sides with Mix Red DPS

[sturdy egret]

once i stopped trying to offtype it with cynthia nemona melted like butter

[dim lance]

do I have to candy stuff just to clear this

[onyx cedar]

do you tho?

[sturdy egret]

i mean

[onyx cedar]

just consider them as 300 "saved" gems

:T

[sturdy egret]

i didnt have to candy everything because i already had the pairs

:^)

did not like Power Plant + the e terrain refresh at her hp threshold

that was nasty and her clearing rebuffs made me have to delay a sync

[lunar sedge]

Rosa -> Lana -> Steven sync order?

[spiral summit]

No, just Rosa -> Steven -> Steven

Need 5/5 Steven for HS1 tho

[lunar sedge]

Ah i see

[spiral summit]

Ofc you can give HS1 to Lana

But very tight

[onyx cedar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonMasters/comments/1gmd0eg/ub_nemona_jacq_team/

[stable storm]

Nemo done again. Finally took a pic this time

Did anyone else clear nemo with Lear yet

20% dr under pt gear btw

[spiral summit]

https://youtu.be/Wg66WiACM8g?si=ZuqqAJranHYB0GGZ

[stable storm]

didn't mean to ping oops

[agile wave]

Get Lemon'd 🍋

[rain sorrel]

Got it

[mystic lion]

wtf she’s so Tanky lmao. I don’t have Rosa to give psychic rebuff so I might be done. I’ll wait for someone to figure it out.

[halcyon mango]

Is that LuSSa 3/5?

[rain sorrel]

The only hard part is that you NEED to quad queue everything

[rain sorrel]

3/5 + EXR

[stable storm]

do you have ASS

[halcyon mango]

Then I could have a chance when I get NC Blue

[stable storm]

surprised there are more lussa clears than Lear clears ngl

[halcyon mango]

Or NC Rosa

[slow sky]

meanly b/c Lussa goes full AOE after her first sync

[dim lance]

what the fuck am I doing

[slow sky]

with the sides that bulky u really would want a DPS pair that can AOE

[dim lance]

Bede was solo grinding two sides on his own

and he gets away with it

[stable storm]

you beat her????

[dim lance]

ye

[rain sorrel]

People forget that NC Bede can unironically DPS

[dim lance]

with Bede

fsr

[stable storm]

with no et removal???

[dim lance]

with bianca

lol

[rain sorrel]

Bianca is there

[stable storm]

oh that's regular bianca

[dim lance]

Blue/Bede/Bianca

[stable storm]

I thought it was biaNCa

[stable storm]

b

[rain sorrel]

The BBB

[stable storm]

BBB

[dim lance]

Recuperation + Curative Confusion is balanced

it felt like grinding an LG

where he just didn't die

it was so fnuny

he was 1 v 2 for a good 8 minutes

and now I put an extra candy on arc steven for nothing

oh well, 4/5 arc steven can be used for other things

[stable storm]

first nc bede clear

[rain sorrel]

I mean, 4/5 Arc Steven is broken in so much content, you'll feel the investment eventually

[dim lance]

i wanted to save my candies for anabel but

oh well

[stable storm]

simp
How hard do you think the ub is?

as in what rank would you place it in among other ubs in terms of difficulty

[rain sorrel]

Anabel UB can literally burn in a fire.

[dim lance]

the hardest bar none

due to unit specificity

[stable storm]

I like how nemo didn't have extremely high stats

[rain sorrel]

And the fact that Anabel is one of the bulkiest UBs so far

[stable storm]

it is the bulkiest ub

[stable storm]

Just forcing you to counter her gimmick but being pretty fair if you can

[rain sorrel]

And idk, it's like Nita too, she does everything in her power to fuel Fluid Fort and the fact that the sidemons have attack drop immunity

[dim lance]

Oh, we have a non psychic terrain clear

skinny did it with Lyra/Red

[stable storm]

and she spams her gimmick at a reasonable pace

[stable storm]

do you think ARC duo+ red could do nemo?

[rain sorrel]

Btw, how invested is your NC Bede, 3/5 + EXR?

[dim lance]

yes, 3/5 EXR, but R is not necessary

Like tbh

as long as mid dies and the eterrain from sides is exhausted

Bede solos

recup + curative confusion is balanced

and I even missed some crits

[rain sorrel]

The real RNG part is just getting enough P Terrain MPRs

[stable storm]

ehhh

[dim lance]

yeah I need fucking 3

lol

minimum of 5

[stable storm]

I'd reckon the top psychic dds can do nemo without mpr

[dim lance]

Yeah but you need them actually invested

[stable storm]

my second clear I didn't get any mpr

[dim lance]

Lusamine didn''t work because mine was 1/5

[stable storm]

fair

[dim lance]

my 1/5 ss steven explodes

because uninvested too

none of my psychics are invested lol

[stable storm]

Will submitting my clear to the doc be worth it. It has a 5/5 mf and 5/5pf

[rain sorrel]

Has there been any Nemona presync clears?

[stable storm]

Dexio when he drops probably

[rain sorrel]

I'd say yes, a reference is a reference, but it'll be WAY at the bottom of the doc.

[stable storm]

and when the top psychics get 10/5

[rain sorrel]

So, you're saying I shouldn't be surprised if you have 10/5 Lear immediately?

[stable storm]

Yes

I am gonna 10/5 Lear the moment he gets one

[stable storm]

I'd reckon 5/5 nc rosa isn't needed (I had the regular+6e grid) but mine was 5/5 when I did the clear so idk if I can ask rosa to be listed as 3/5

[rain sorrel]

You can put in it the side comment in the submission sheet, I had a 4/5 Pal Victor run but they counted it as 3/5 because I didn't use any +en.

[stable storm]

I don't think rosa 5/5 extra damage was that big?

[stable storm]

K, gonna try to record my clear this time and hope poma doesn't clear during recording

[dim lance]

Actually

why the fuck didn't I just use Elaine

lol

she isn't capped here

[rain sorrel]

Rebuff?

[stable storm]

wdym by capped

[dim lance]

she can't flinch but she has good coverage on the rest

the stage has no resillience so she can do fishing on confusion

afaik she's also not trap immune

[onyx cedar]

ye

[stable storm]

Nemo felt fun to clear

[onyx cedar]

only flinch

[dim lance]

Yeah I should've just done that

lol

I'm ashamed because I'm an elaine stan and completely forgot mine was 3/5 EXR

[rain sorrel]

My only gripe with it is the need for Rebuff but it was relatively okay.

[dim lance]

welp, wasted candy on arc steven kek

[stable storm]

rebuff is a pretty fair requirement tbh

many units also have rebuff

she also doesn't require rebuff if et is down

[rain sorrel]

True, it mostly just asks for Rebuff + Eletric Terrain Removal

[stable storm]

just inter

[rain sorrel]

At least they didn't require Speed drops again because DeNA loves making that a requirement for some reason

[stable storm]

I also prefer rebuff cleanse to be post sync personally rather than endure

[stable storm]

I am pretty sure nemo would be impossible without Lear or Avery if she had nita's gimmick as well

unironically nemo would be easier for Lear clears if she had speed up gimmick and buffed it on entry or every turn

[rain sorrel]

Still, it's nice that you can handle half of the battle gimmick just using Bianca and can actually chunk some HP off of Nemona relatively well

[stable storm]

because you can snatch before their attack buff and set up buff block successfully

[rain sorrel]

Just needs a 4/5 Lear.

[stable storm]

her only having 600k hp was nice

the sides did have 500k hp but they weren't doing too much annoying stuff at least

imagine if nemo's toxtricity did what nita's hippo does and constantly set et

[rain sorrel]

The stage was clearly made for SS Lana, not sure who they were expecting to cover the other gimmick requirement

[stable storm]

nc rosa

the stage was meant for 2 units

[orchid bridge]

it's ok, I forgot NC Rosa can rebuff too

I blame her being a 50% fighting type

[rain sorrel]

It makes sense, just a little awkward that you need to keep NC Rosa in one form until Nemona syncs but nothing too bad

[orchid bridge]

Based Stew, have you recorded the run

[rain sorrel]

Imma try recording my run for this too.

[stable storm]

tbh not too bad

you can b move twice

before nemo sync

[dim lance]

Mfw Nemona is so oppressive that tosakinto's lost motivation to cook and play

[warm haven]

she is

Clearing rebuff on sync is so dirty

[plush gale]

With SS Lana 1/5 (With Super Powered 3) https://youtu.be/c1AYQn6P9I8?si=UaUz4nPNW0LAK8qQ

[snow spruce]

if the Arc Duo + Mix Red clear is possible, I hope this guy posts it today https://www.youtube.com/@熱狗麵包170卡/videos
so I dont have to even try it

[stable storm]

?

[stable storm]

I doubt it is possible

[dim lance]

he made a youtube post saying he's tilted from the first rally exposure to nemona and he's not motivated

[stable storm]

oh right jp don't look at mine

[snow spruce]

There is nothing for Tosakinto to even do here, Nemona isnt remotely possible with any of his usual SS Mina teams
only Lear-Avery-NC Rosa

[uncut saffron]

NEMONA'S WEAK TO CONFUSION?????

I just use rebuffs

[snow spruce]

yes, you can trap and confuse or restrain

[uncut saffron]

Restrain
Zerena nuke?

[snow spruce]

Zerena is probably a bit too weak for this UB, dmg-wise. Even the Dragon-type as a whole right now

[stable tundra]

yes, if she can survive in the first place

[stable storm]

Nemo is remove et 3 times or die

[snow spruce]

does she remove her debuffs on sync ?

[stable storm]

I don't think so?

[dim lance]

she doesn't remove her debuffs, she just gives aoe +2 to everything

[covert marlin]

fuck, of course Lyra paralyzed on her Grassy Terrain

this shit

why the heck can't arc Steven have friend mend

[uncut saffron]

She removes rebuffs and applies ET

[dim lance]

unless someone's already done the Red version of arcs fsr

Nemona is the full clear killer

idt any team currently can boast a full clear while she's around

[snow spruce]

At the first time opposing Pawmot endures at 60% HP (1st Time 60% HP: Electric Terrain).
After every time opposing Pawmot uses a Sync move (Power Plant).
When opposing Toxtricity (Low-Key Forme) uses Electric Terrain (first move after opposing Pawmot's first Sync move, only once).

it would seem that Mix Reds Field sync needs to be timed to overwrite all of these 3 E.T.s at once, so that you have 6 turns of no E.T. until her next sync
Dunno if doable

[dark dust]

@stable storm I'll upload vid later

But yes pre-sync Nemona achieved

[warm haven]

arc duo + mix red will be able

[snow spruce]

removing ground rebuffs also sucks, damage loss

[warm haven]

cynthia is prob capable of presync nemona so only 1 GT is enough

[snow spruce]

there is no way lmao

its post-sync for sure

[warm haven]

why tho

[dim lance]

You seem very optimistic, but yeah, the only clear I've seen so far is Lele duoing it

[warm haven]

she has like 550k hp

[snow spruce]

because the sides are bulky af

and Cynthia b-move is high BP, but split damage

if you time mix red sync perfectly and get rid of E.T. for ~5-6 turns until her 2-nd sync, then it should be EZ. IF you can

sucks that mix red doesnt have 5/5 grid or SA passive lol

but its good that she doesnt wipe debuffs. Because steven will put her at -6, at that point you can actually deal with E.T. for a turn or two

[low coral]

Toxtricity for me uses Electric Terrain after Pawmot goes down

Not after the first sync

[snow spruce]

Alright, so that info was wrong. its is after mid dies then
THats even better I guess? you dont have to worry about a random. E.T. being used, you know exactly when its coming

[low coral]

But yeah, while Cynthia prob could pre-sync in an otherwise more friendly battle in terms of stats, those conditions and kinda forcing Mix Red makes it more unlikely to me

As it's not like someone like LuSSa pre-syncs with time to spare, she gets down to the last turn

[olive scroll]

I tried NC Blue, Avery, Cheren team. They can do 11/13 UBs atm: https://imgur.com/a/5WYQcms

Cynthia can for sure do 13/13

[snow spruce]

new team for the UB doc. Which 2 UBs are they missing ?

[olive scroll]

Palmer and Leon

Palmer should be doable if they get extra sync cd somewhere from expansion

Leon is too RNG, so I don't try hard yet

[snow spruce]

do you mean that NC Blue - Avery - Arc Cynthia can do 13/13 ?
because yeah, that team was floated awhile now as an all UBs team, just no one is using Blue+Cynthia
but if you did 11/13 with Cheren, then 13/13 with Cynthia should be good

[olive scroll]

Yeah, I don't have Cynthia, so I just tried with Cheren to see how

Their only issue is MR, which is actually quite easy for this team

[uncut saffron]

Why NC Cheren?

[warm haven]

Speed debuffs and high dmg

[uncut saffron]

Nemona.... Needs Speed debuffs too?

[snow spruce]

and easy Noland too

[warm haven]

It's for Nita

[olive scroll]

MR sync will hit Cynthia 70% at most, and she has self heal over Cheren

[uncut saffron]

I mean this

[warm haven]

To beat the highest amount of UBs with the same team

[olive scroll]

Yeah mainly this, and Cynthia dmg is much higher than zoneless Cheren

[low coral]

MR with Blue + Cynthia sounds like the biggest obstacle

[warm haven]

Cheren doesn't do anything particularly good against nemona besides dmg and Rebuff

[snow spruce]

yeah, double ice weak

but it should still be doable

[warm haven]

Can MR be presynced?

With Cynthia

[low coral]

And maybe Thorton? Dunno how long it takes to get to physical damage

[uncut saffron]

I give up

[low coral]

Since the battle is basically over once it gets to physical

[olive scroll]

It's quite easy imo
As long as she can survive sync, which she can

[snow spruce]

Thorton should be fine

[olive scroll]

His sync only hit Cheren 35% hp

[snow spruce]

Cynthia surviving an ice UB sync is only an issue for the second sync, not first

[warm haven]

But I realized that NC blue + Avery is a really good combo for UBs

[low coral]

Wouldn't that force an early Roost due to Blizzard?

[olive scroll]

MR won't get to 2nd sync with Cynthia lol

[olive scroll]

Avery has dmg guard

Avery dmg guard and buff block are very nice for sustain

[snow spruce]

yeah and damage guard
Avery in general is pretty good for anti-UB gimmicks

[olive scroll]

Buff block is basically crit shield for those dire hit+ ub

[snow spruce]

I gotta get Avery on the next select scout

[uncut saffron]

Is this gonna work or must i use Bianca?

[warm haven]

Yeah that's a really nice interaction

[low coral]

It's gonna work

[uncut saffron]

[olive scroll]

Avery shill time

[warm haven]

yes, give him sync burst with 10/5

he's gonna be the UBs saviour

[olive scroll]

Even 9/5 would make Palmer doable imo

His sync sets up much faster than Cheren

For Cynthia prob easy tho

[snow spruce]

it was supposed to be BT leon, but Nemona ruined it with her terrain requirement

Cynthia barely even needs a second dps for Palmer.
In fact she duo'd him twice

[olive scroll]

Lol, op

If zoneless Cheren can do MR and Thorton, they for sure can't get to 2nd sync with Cynthia

[snow spruce]

was your Avery 3/5 or 5/5 ?

[olive scroll]

5/5

[snow spruce]

is 5/5 needed ? or 4/5 ?

[olive scroll]

I don't use any 5/5 tiles, I use hit spa/atk debuff sometimes, but it doesn't make big difference
I never skip those tiles on blue, so Avery only helps early game

[stable storm]

noice. Can you see if the replay is in the in game replay section now

[slow sky]

I cleared with Bianca, NC Rosa and Lusamine

your move levels definitely match mine for those 3

but u got May also, who is an upgrade of Bianca

[dark dust]

I tried checking earlier right after, and just now. No replay in sight

[snow spruce]

there hasnt been any fully offtype Nemona clear so far

[low coral]

Yes, there was

[stable storm]

skiny

[low coral]

Arc Cyn / NC Blue / SS Lyra

[stable storm]

*skinny

Did grass

[snow spruce]

oh yeah true

[stable storm]

I am tempted to get avery during his rerun or from a select

[low coral]

I think I can do Mix Red / Adaman / SS Acerola as well

[stable storm]

or my mix pity maybe tho that will take a bit

I didn't expect Avery to be Lear's best partner

[low coral]

I wouldn't say he is lol

Avery is more of a pair to get multiple gimmick checks in one slot

Not something Lear actively want to run every time

[warm haven]

Nah he's the best for lear, not the best for the team because of his bmove

[stable storm]

Avery has buff block without needing a stat buff to steal

which is good for Lear

[warm haven]

But still im not even sure if lana is better bc her low damage

[snow spruce]

Lear kinda needs him for the buff block, otherwise his sync will still get fucked later on by enemy buffs

[stable storm]

Avery 10/5 sync burst and b move refresh pls

with some healing maybe

[agile wind]

I managed to KO Nemona in the UB... but then I get KO by the sides

[stable storm]

yeh and the anti ginmicks are really strong on Avery

[stable storm]

what comp? the sides are monsters

[agile wind]

NC Rosa, Jacq and Bianca

Jacq sync does a lot of damage, the issue is that I get KO by overdrive of the sides

even without electric terrain

[stable storm]

what move levels

are you getting potion mprs

[agile wind]

3/5 and Bianca is 5/5

and the MP refresh I need to get is psychic terrain

[stable storm]

You also need potion mprs

to keep your team healthy

[agile wind]

cause Nemona will put automatically electric terrain after sync and when she reaches 60% HP

[stable storm]

ik

[agile wind]

Sadly I don't have Tapu Lele

otherwise I think it would be really easy

[stable storm]

that team should be able to clear

just requires some pt and potion mprs

are you killing the left side before it sets et

[agile wind]

uhm, I mostly focus on the middle

[stable storm]

so is the left side setting et successfully after Nemo dies?

[agile wind]

I know it sets Electric terraina fter Nemo dies, that's why if I get lucky to get MP Refresh on psychic terrain, I use it again

[uncut saffron]

Society if the left side just doesn't setup ET:

[agile wind]

Jacq sync does 200k, should I sync onto the sides first?

[low coral]

Tbf, without it, it would still be more Overdrive

And those hurt a ton lol

[paper mural]

Nemona's sides are more problematic than I thought...

[uncut saffron]

Too bluky

Bulky*

Deals too much damage

[warm haven]

of all things it had to be the electric UB, having only 1 free usable PT setter, no usable free GT setter, and 2/3 defog units being electric weak

[agile wind]

Remember to inflic status onto them

Like confusion or rebuff

[fading walrus]

Presync is pretty funny

[uncut saffron]

My psycho boost got paralyzed

[snow spruce]

LuSSa time to shine

[fading walrus]

I'll record a cleaner presync clear because I feel like this rotation is pretty fun

[low coral]

I assume you went for TM MPR

That's what I did

First rotation being LuSSa TM into Lana's Propulsion 9

Then Rosa Syncs with Sprint EXR, Adrenaline 1, and another LuSSa TM

[uncut saffron]

Para again

[rotund oasis]

SS Lyra gaming? 😮
Is she 3/5?

[low coral]

Yeah

[dim lance]

Steven Lyra mix red did too

[low coral]

Yeah, that's the one Doom mentioned after

[uncut saffron]

Isit just me, or does the para chance got increased by 100% in Nemona stage?

[dim lance]

Its kinda funny how Lyra Red's been doing more than Adaman Red

[fading walrus]

Reverse but yea