Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles

[warm haven]

Sun anabel > no status MR > sandstorm nita

[fading walrus]

Noland is still kinda easy even if you don't stop fissure

MR without stats is not hard lol

[stable storm]

dena is really trying to make an ub whose gimmick we can't ignore

[fading walrus]

Anabel took 1+ year

To be sunless cleared

[stable storm]

ironic that a steel comp beat her

[fading walrus]

Nita would've taken the same time if we didn't casually get a sand arc

If not more

[stable storm]

Wouldn't steel comp still beat nita tho even if we didn't get ASC?

[snow spruce]

tbh the only reason that some AS Cynthia teams (like with SS Lear etc) cant bruteforce no status MR is because she is weak to Ice and cannot survive his second sync without a dmg guard. Not possible
without that I think it would be ok
terrain Nemona is definitely the hardest, maybe even on par with no speed debuffs Nita

[fading walrus]

Steel beat Nita in sand? I missed it

Oh yeah duh

Ofc

They're still 12/12

Still

Nita being staggerable is the big difference

Staggers make ALL the difference for clears

[warm haven]

sand nita isnt terrible, it's just that it's harder to debuff her speed which is the main concern

[fading walrus]

Look at Giovanni with the ssn team

Bianca literally carries the other 2 on her back in that fight

[snow spruce]

no speed debuffs+sand Nita is probably the hardest fight
you wont even survive till first sync

[stable storm]

no speed buffs Nita doesn't count imo

[warm haven]

why not

[stable storm]

because I said so

[warm haven]

can't argue with that

[high harbor]

I wonder if steel UB will be able to be done with arc steven + double solgaleo

[snow spruce]

probably

[valid raft]

I imagine that steel-weak will have some kind of zone

To make us suffer for not having Lillieleo or V. Thorton

[river prawn]

Ignoring the actual steel wish setters lol

[snow spruce]

yeah steel-weak UB being zone version of Nemona could happen

idk what other gimmicks steel has. Flinch ?

zone version of Nemona, but give it 1 Mil HP .. since a zone is so easy to remove

[warm haven]

@snow spruce in an hour I'll upload the video

This was horrible

But Idt they can beat nemona

[snow spruce]

Not even the full rats + Zapdos can beat Nemona.
Even if Ash somehow nuked Nemona presync (and his B-move dmg would get reduced by E-repulsion) - they would still die to sides

[warm haven]

Nah the rats might have a shot, you underestimate how bulky those rats are

[snow spruce]

they are not anywhere near bulky to take 170%, x1,5 dmg and then a sync
all with SpAtk+Atk buffs which you cant remove

[warm haven]

They have damage guard

[snow spruce]

only delays the inevitable
their AoE also isnt really strong enough to deal with 460K sides quick enough

each side is nearly equal to Nemona herself

[fading walrus]

Sides with one sync buffs:

You need the damage guard for them

Not the sync

[stable storm]

I think steel will be dana regice and be a really really fat wall that constantly debuffs and statuses

[warm haven]

Ash has a strong sync too

and red PB extended range dps

the wont be exactly at full health

[snow spruce]

not really..

[stable storm]

isn't 160% weak nowadays?

[warm haven]

160% with high spatk, rebuff, WTZ and lots of theme skills

[snow spruce]

160% striker sync without even a tech role is nothing special

[warm haven]

it's still one of the strongest non tech+striker syncs

and it's combined with SSTR Dps

[snow spruce]

by itself its behind several strikersyncs like NC red, NC Nate, AS Cynthia, SC irida, Rock Selene, Giacomo etc.
Probably even behind SC Barry (he has Mega tax, but 200% multipliers, very high stat and Tech EXR)

[fading walrus]

Is it really?

zone/ET + 2 rebuffs + -6 defs

Also relevant to the discussion how nemona disables para iirc so...one of those 2 80% is gone

[warm haven]

Is she inmune to paralisys?

Also that's lvl 150 vs 140

[snow spruce]

I dont think terrain nemona is immune to status? to debuffs and interference, yes
status I think no

[valid raft]

She has no Grounding Wire and Charged Immunity

[low coral]

Nemona does have Grounding Wire, no?

Only Charged Immunity isn't there

[valid raft]

But I think she still has disabling status immunities

[stable storm]

only missing charged immunity yeh

has all the other immunities

[valid raft]

What's the interference one again?

[rain sorrel]

Innately immune to Sleep, Freeze, and Flinch so stuns are off the table

[valid raft]

Charged?

[valid raft]

Ah ok, so it doesn't matter either way

[stable storm]

grounding wire

btw does the toxtricity in nemo ub have infinite et uses?

[valid raft]

If Nita's Hippowdown had infinite applications of Sandstorm, then Toxtricity for Nemona's will have tio

[warm haven]

https://youtu.be/QmUYY-lXBuY done

@snow spruce

[stable storm]

new strongest ub side

[stable storm]

did this clear nita btw

[warm haven]

nah the speed buff is too strong with nita

[fast pendant]

Blue's aoe flinch doesn't allow st denial*

[warm haven]

Even if blue had ST Flinch red can't keep up with double speed buffing because he has to click his TM and ET

[fast pendant]

Well Cynthia does and it's basically the same thing

[warm haven]

Cynthia doesnt have to click her tm

But still, cynthia doesnt need to refresh her zone manually, and isnt weak to ground

[fast pendant]

I think it might be doable still

With Steven

[warm haven]

But what's the point of using Steven anyways

[fast pendant]

well, you should be able to replicate all clears that those can do with steven instead of blue

[snow spruce]

btw why is it missing Noland clear if you have 2 dmg guards ? blues initial guard + max guard from Red

is it because Noland is immune to para ?

does that matter that much?

[warm haven]

yes

[humble gyro]

This masked royale battle is so frustrating

[warm haven]

no para = no def debuffs, no static shock and no speed debuff aka no cakewalk

[warm haven]

yeah i was thinking about that

anabel seemed clearble i'll try more later

[humble gyro]

i might try this

[warm haven]

dont

Unless it's your only option, it's rng heavy

[stable tundra]

who i can use in place of NC Silver

[stable storm]

we are gacha players

[stable tundra]

i don't have him

[stable storm]

rng is our oxygen

[warm haven]

Prob volkner is a way better option

[stable storm]

gacha is in our blood

gambling is our soul

believe in rng

[stable tundra]

i have 3/5 Oleana but the lack of Geeta makes me struggle against him

[stable storm]

do you have any other poison

[stable tundra]

3/5 Emma, and ik there is a clear involving both but i don't want to candy Arc Steven to 2/5

no Klara or SS Roxie either

[stable storm]

yeah was gonna say that

[rain sorrel]

3/5 NC Blue, 3/5 Emma, and 5/5 Oak could work.

[stable tundra]

i assume Oak doesn't need EXR, imma try that out

thanks

[humble gyro]

i dont know what else to use

my zapdos gets fucked on first sync

cause of 2 triple axels

[rain sorrel]

Yeah, I've been avoiding using NC Blue as the main tank for this fight because he's Ice weak

[stable tundra]

make sure that TMR is paralyzed and has no positive buffs whenever he attacks

so Blue can stay much longer

[humble gyro]

yeah 1 sync and the bird is gone

stupid battle

[short oyster]

Having trouble with the use an electric and fairy type mission for the alola villain rerun, any advice?

[stable tundra]

Anni Lillie checks the gimmicks pretty well, definitely give her a try

if you have done the Alola mission, you can replace Hau or base Lillie with an Electric/Fairy off region support

and let A Lillie tank

[fading walrus]

Yeah it's still comparing Bianca to him too lol

[warm haven]

nah @low coral arc steven + sst red + nc silver can't beat palmer

the arc sync ruining quad dont let them get the last sync

nvm i think i found a way

[fast pendant]

just don't tank with steven

[warm haven]

It's possible

[shrewd marten]

Hm

[hearty cedar]

https://youtu.be/ddPQZWN_L9U?si=pOzXyk0O9y-J1WFD

Ss morty on a break

Pretty sure we can replace victini with anni N

[formal matrix]

What about ss lysandre with HW scorching touch and burn opponents atk/sp def down?

[hearty cedar]

You know what... you maybe cooking

[snow spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LRsddaS-1M
lmao another Palmer duo with Cynthia + a different sand pair

[warm haven]

paulo gaming

And thats without crazy rng

[final yacht]

average power creep

can't wait for the unit that will solo UBs

[formal matrix]

If only Lucy hits less harder, then arc Cynthia might solo her

[fast pendant]

If Lucy was steel weak I think Steven would be able to

[snow spruce]

Lucy has 90-100% multipliers on moves and sync if her speed isnt debuffed IIRC, not sure if Steven can survive that if he is solo
and she is immune to flinch too

Plus she would remove his rebuffs twice

[warm haven]

yeah but you can ignore those multipliers if you debuff her atk

[formal matrix]

Just cope that steel UB will just defuff every stats, so arc Steven has a chance. (I think it is likely one gimmick because steel trio are all immune to stat drop)

[warm haven]

yeah that's likely

base steven also has impervious

[solar stirrup]

Steel ub has ground moves

Needs zone

Needs rebuff

[high harbor]

Anabel down with arc duo + oleana
it sucks wasting a sandstorm in the beginning, but I gotta get rid of the sun to poison them

[snow spruce]

I wonder if you can do the Palmer duo with AS Cynthia + SS Lear too

[high harbor]

nope
cuz I dont have ss lear, arc steven took pity to pull

[eternal yarrow]

Done

[hearty cedar]

Steven:- downside up
Lillie:- impervious
Ss lear:- f your gimmicks

[rain sorrel]

We have a new F2P clear for Noland~

[cobalt cliff]

Defeating Latios

[rain sorrel]

https://youtu.be/-gfEO51p82k

[high harbor]

@crisp minnow

[humble gyro]

How

[high harbor]

they have the dream team for MR stage, geeta + oleana + any tanky support

[fading walrus]

If you're struggling while still using premium units

Just swap to vigilance on all the units

Geeta can 2v3 royale with 4-4/5 ArcSteven for example

Because of vigilance

[humble gyro]

I hit that team and get destroyed in second sync

[cobalt cliff]

Why vigilange Is important?

If u go +6 def and +6 sp.def?

Does Crit ignore that?

[stone scarab]

yes

[formal matrix]

Yes

MR has sure crit next before his second sync

[mental jasper]

vigilance seems very important when the enemy has sure crit all

[stone scarab]

crits will ignore lowered offensive stats on the user and raised defense stats on the target

[high harbor]

all UBs have it iirc

[stone scarab]

not all of them have sure crit

it's either sure crit all or it's dire hit+ all

[high harbor]

yup

[fading walrus]

Also reflect and light screen

[high harbor]

so
someone beat giovanni with arc cynthia, arc steven and anni lillie
Im trying it, but Im messing up managing the field timing with lillie and arc cynthia

[deep drift]

honestly don't believe the screenshot unless i see that video.

i did sync steven then lillie's sync then save last cynthia's tp and sandstorm for her last sync and only got down to like 55% mewtew's hp.

yeah lillie's steel zone doesn't last forever... sad

[high harbor]

I did with oleana instead lol

[snow spruce]

wut? Steven + Cynthia can duo Giovanni
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kZr2q0tk4Q
although it likely requires 5/5 + 4/5

[fading walrus]

Pretty sure that's 5/5 both

[deep drift]

i was replying to zarc's last comment above mine.

[fading walrus]

For the TM refresh

And extra Def drops from steven

[deep drift]

someoneposted a pic of giovanni's stage cleared and then another image of arc cynthia 1/5 anni lillie 5/5 and arc steen at 2/5 in like flex channel

[fading walrus]

Really doubt that team can do it without perfect flinches

And perfectly flinches without aggravation 1....

Sounds laughable

[deep drift]

nah they posted just the cleared with the crystal screen and then the team line up... which doesn't mean anything.

but i'm very willing down to see if it's real. but doubting that person 100%

[fading walrus]

Again, the team can likely do it, with perfect rng and denials

But it's still an extremely unlikely case

[deep drift]

well i have the same team except steven at 1/5 (is 2/5 even anything for that anyways?) and only got mewtew down to 50% ;/

#gacha-and-flex message

[stable storm]

2/5 gives him some stuff yes

[crisp minnow]

Sry, i was sleeping at the time. I dont have a video of the clear, but i could try it later as it doesnt involve much rng, just need to crit with lillie's syncs. Here is lillie's grid

Actually, picking up overpower over the top right sync node might be more worth it. I was just using the sync nuke grid i used in dc

[ebon elbow]

What am i doing wrong hmmm

[valid raft]

Wrong place

[ebon elbow]

Oh my bad

[crisp minnow]

@high harbor

I ungridder trip wire 2 for overpower in this

[crisp minnow]

Also, you dont need potion mpr or the flinch, it helps but metagross can die after surviving the earthquake which brings lillie to endurance

[rich heron]

Can Lana, falkner and nc red clear noland?

Or do anyone have video of falkner, Lana and sstr?

I can't find it

[stable tundra]

There is a recorded clear with SST Red

[rich heron]

Where

[stable tundra]

maybe the pins have it

[rich heron]

There is this only

[stable tundra]

have you ever checked the ultimate battle clear sheet

[rich heron]

Yes

Whenever I click on the UB name
It just takes me back to it

[formal matrix]

What’s happening in the Lucy UB page?

[final yacht]

Rafa is having fun

[formal matrix]

Did he clear it with all these or just put them there for the space holder? Because there is no link to it and it has like 20 duos there

[final yacht]

he recorded them but didnt upload yet

[formal matrix]

Wow that’s a huge amount of work, I respect him for doing that

[fading walrus]

Lucy do be free

[warm haven]

Solo when

[opaque dagger]

When speed debuff passive from the new 5 extra levels mechanic

[fading walrus]

Whenever we get ground arc Steven

[formal matrix]

Blame Dena for not making arc Cynthia having 400+ defenses

[fading walrus]

She can't even duo the stage with an eggmon

Smh

[warm haven]

she can't solo latias, a 2021 stage

[snow spruce]

where are the UB Palmer duos with AS steven

[opaque dagger]

she can solo entei, a 2024 stage tho

||assuming this is a Evelyn joke with a lati@s typo||

[warm haven]

no, she literally can't solo Latias LA because of Terra Firma 10

[opaque dagger]

That's cresselia

[snow spruce]

I hope Tosakin or some1 else posts a MR clear with Arc Cynthia - BT Leon - Elaine
it should be pretty easy with invested units, just do it

[formal matrix]

Arcs are all trash. Them unable to solo UBs make them totally not worth the 500 scout points

[warm haven]

Ah true

[tawdry sail]

Nemona ultimate battle is cheeks in Rally smh

[marble portal]

as a none Akari haver, what's the ideal way to get thru that field effect requirement for Giovanni

[stable storm]

anyone who has good wtz uptime

[marble portal]

gotcha

dont think my roster is capable of this ub but im just trying to see what might be of use down the road

my Steel team is def not capable of this, given that they struggle with debuffs (no I don't have Steven 4/5)

no way to deal with attack and once Gio uses his TMs it's done

[stable storm]

what's your Steel team

[marble portal]

SC Selene/A24Lillie/Arc Steven

[stable storm]

oh sc selene

[marble portal]

3/5 EXR 5/5 EXR 2/5 EXR

[stable storm]

do you have ss Lear

[marble portal]

yeah I don't have SS Lear

miiiight try something else

cant hurt to give it a whirl

[stable storm]

probably not enough output to clear even with 4/5 Steven

[marble portal]

mayhaps CyruSS/Lillie/Steven?

if I can get lucky with debuffs

CyruSS 5/5 so...

[stable storm]

no

[formal matrix]

Can you clip your roster

[marble portal]

yeah, just tried a bit of CyruSS
it's all fun and games til you sleep so much he uses TM right before first sync

[formal matrix]

Sc zinnia can remove his buff right before sync

Or any of the haze unit

[marble portal]

is there a way to predict when Gio uses his TMs

[formal matrix]

When drops to 80% hp

#1009557516369281075 message

Here is more info. You can try to read the guide and copy some team

[marble portal]

…close

the sides prob would’ve done me in but almost got Gio down

[snow spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH-Qxv8K7lI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJhS8kIygXI
skinny showing some ghost love

Hopefully a preview of future ghost clears after ghost arc comes out + 5/5 Masterfair grids

[fading walrus]

Ghost arc will most likely make Iono redundant

And I doubt 5/5 mfs will come before 2026

[warm haven]

Ghost arc will use gardenia

[stable storm]

I already did palmer before but this was probably my favourite palmer clear since I made my own team(1/5 Rei btw)

ignore the sound button

I have terrible screenshot timing

[snow spruce]

ghost-type support AS steven copy + 5/5 SSRC with extension + SC Irida will be the best ghost team (soon-ish)

[snow spruce]

Yeah. F.Iono is basically a mini-arc with 1 level of rebuff, definitely getting replaced, but for now she's ok.
and dont know why they are still dragging 5/5 MFs, makes no sense now.
I think its either saved for the anni N + anni steven rerun or for 5.5 anni

[low coral]

Having one AoE rebuff doesn't qualify for "mini Arc" lol

[snow spruce]

Hence the "mini". Especially since the only rebuff alternative is F.Allister (lol)
But very mini in Ionos case.

[warm haven]

they might as well make a ghost SSTR before a ghost arc support

[snow spruce]

ghost obviously needs a good support way more than dps right now - thats what the ghost arc should be
even DeNA should understand that
if there is a new big ghost Masterfair then its probably Volo with Origin Giratina, but I doubt thats any earlier than the end of the current story arc, what with him being its villain (and that might be when they release an arc for each type, so up to 2 years)

[stable storm]

Lear is so good at enhancing

[fading walrus]

It makes sense because MFs are still high cut units with value

Once arc schedule is standardized and MFs diminish, THEN we might get 5/5 for them

Because by then mf value will be lower AND all of them will have exr and all older ones had at least one rerun if not more

[left crow]

This belongs here...right?

[high harbor]

Thorton done with poison queens + arc steven

only 2 UBs to go

[stable storm]

what's the funniest comp ya all have cleared palmer with

[rain sorrel]

My run with 1/5 Rei, 1/5 NC Rosa, and 3/5 NC Bianca and casually one shotting the sidemons with max PMUN B Triple Arrows

[valid raft]

Electric

[gentle wharf]

Only one team worked for me and it wasn’t funny

[stable storm]

mine is this (1/5 rei btw. Killed the sides from 60% hp)

I am thankful that rosa has 1 move she can quad

[fading walrus]

1/5 alt gloria
3/5 chop
3/5 SSteven (speed form)

[stable storm]

ooo what was the strat

accel forever?

[fading walrus]

Yea

[crisp shore]

3/5 NC Bianca and 3/5 Rei were standard but it was adding 3/5 SC Barry with fighting build that got me over the top for my first clear.

[rich heron]

Wht should I do for UB clear videos

[fading walrus]

Tap on title

Then scroll down

[stable tundra]

Or check the tab on the above bar

[rich heron]

It reverts me back to this page

[stable storm]

click on the blue text with the name of the ub

[rich heron]

I did

[stable storm]

then something should pop up

click on ot

*it

[rich heron]

I clicked
It brought me back to this page

No matter whtever I click
It brings me back to the same page

[native shard]

download the google sheets app or open on a desktop window

mobile browser google sheets is more or less broken, or at least inconsistent

[valid raft]

If only we had a free Paldea support

[fading walrus]

Just use DC nemona

[valid raft]

I literally did all missions with my team

I'm saying that a F2P Paldea support can make a F2P clear for that BC

[fading walrus]

I would've thought this BC was easy

So that f2p could clear pretty easily

[marble flume]

It’s less about clearing in general and more about doing all missions in 1 go

Without a Paldea Support doing the latter is much harder

[fading walrus]

Doing in one go is a non issue anyway

[marble flume]

Yeah, it’s not a big deal whether you do it in one or multiple, but some people do like to one-shot it

[nocturne nacelle]

i need help with thorton UB could someone give me advice or A good team to finally beat him? This is my best fire team

[fast pendant]

Do you have anyone who can apply rebuff aoe

[nocturne nacelle]

Wdym with rebuff aoe (sorry for the question english is not my first language)

[pliant jewel]

Rebuff is a status change applied by Gloria (Cinderace) in this team. She only applies it Fire-type Rebuff to whichever target you use Max move on.

Runner is asking if you own another sync pair who applies to all targets.

[nocturne nacelle]

Tysm

[pliant jewel]

The def and sp.def of the opponent are tripled if they aren't affected by a status change. And they're equipped with a passive skill the constantly cures , so you have to resort to a longer lasting change such as Rebuff or Restrain.

[nocturne nacelle]

I have these and NC articuno

In fire just gloria

[fast pendant]

is NC Red 3/5?

[nocturne nacelle]

Yup

I don't have either NC blue/arc suit steven

Or NC rosa

My best support rn is NC bede

[fast pendant]

You could try Hilda, Cynthia and Morty

[pliant jewel]

It looks like you can utilize cheren, or nc red. Main problem remaining would be you lack offensive debuffing.

[fast pendant]

Cynthia doesn't need to sync, she's there to debuff defense and apply aoe rebuff

Hilda should use Searing Shot until Articuno drops to 60% hp

[nocturne nacelle]

Ok so

I could use ARC cinthya ,hilda and morty ,I could Sync with cynthia to

[fast pendant]

don't sync with cynthia

[nocturne nacelle]

Then I'd sync with hilda right?

[fast pendant]

yes, 1st sync morty then Hilda

[nocturne nacelle]

Ok ill try

Was a very good dmg my best so far to .

[fast pendant]

Yeah, I tried here, it needs offensive debuffs

What other supps do you have?

One option would be Cheren and Bianca

[fast pendant]

Does your cheren have ex role?

[nocturne nacelle]

Yeah

[fast pendant]

Nice

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=001401064100&s0=3&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=13010602&t0=44444&x0=true&g0=AAECAwQFCw4QIyUpKywtLg&v1=014802025001&s1=3&l1=140&r1=5&p1=0&a1=0&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFExQXGBkaHB8iJig&v2=010201064000&s2=5&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=13010602&t2=44444&x2=true&g2=AAECAwQFBgkMDxAeICMk

[nocturne nacelle]

Mmh

That team looks interesting..

Let me check if it works

Woah almost beated it

Let me retry again

It was at red HP

[deep drift]

Argenta is not easy... But somehow 1/5 arc cynthia+steven with 5/5 lillie

[short gate]

huh maybe ill try that

I have lillie exr and 3/5 arc cynthia on top of what you have

[snow spruce]

Argenta is a near free win for 3/5 Cynthia

[deep drift]

Yeah you're in a much better place

[rich heron]

I did a run with sstr, nc blue and newly c elesa which I got from ticket

It was fun lol

On leon

[stable storm]

did Leon survive

[rich heron]

Nope

I missed slightly because didn't change tactics

So it didn't complete
But only one bmove was left to kill

[stable storm]

wdym

[rich heron]

Butterfree little hp was left

[fading walrus]

That team can win with all 3 1/5 if tbolt and blue are exR

[rich heron]

Yes

It was slight mistake
I didn't change tactics

So red was target after blue died

[stable storm]

lol

[rich heron]

I already did it
I just wanted to play with C elesa

[warm haven]

I was planning to use SS Silver against anabel but looks like skinny already did it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmekead_54k

[short gate]

she’s insufferable

[snow spruce]

looking at skinnys Shauntal clears I can say that just having a weather (especially hail) already kinda makes you at least alright in UBs. Hail almost feels like its more important than even the debuffs on her kit, at least for UBs
And it lets you use AS Steven as the tank even on the weather UBs, which makes everything so much easier, when ASS is your support

hail/sandstorm used to be memed, but they are very good to have in UBs

[low coral]

I mean, they make a bigger difference on three of them

The rest is standard chip damage

[snow spruce]

even the chip damage goes up to ~20K-25K in UBs, like an extra attack every turn.

[fading walrus]

I said this when the first non water Anabel clears started dropping from myself and others on day one

"irida op Vs Anabel because that chip damage goes crazy"

1/5 arcyn is also extremely good for the sameish reason

Trap + sand chips UBs hard

[low coral]

Irida's great vs Anabel for a multitude of reasons

Hail chip is the smallest of them

[low coral]

Yes, but that goes for every chip damage benefiting from an enemy that's highly bulky

[fading walrus]

Yeah but her debuffs can be sidelined imo

[low coral]

Lol if you remove debuffs from Irida, she becomes painfully average vs Anabel at best

[fading walrus]

22k chip per action was not something every pair can offer while also dropping stats and enhancing team through her passives

[low coral]

If you take out hail chip, she remains one of the best non-Water choices

[fading walrus]

Sure but a year ago she was pulling clears because of the chip too

[low coral]

The chip is a good tool to have, yes

But it's not the reason she's good vs Anabel

[fading walrus]

Ofc

[snow spruce]

trap damage is generally a few times lower than SS/hail chip, right ? because of lessen trap 10
and regular poison is also lower IIRC
so the highest chip is from SS/hail or from deadly poison

[fading walrus]

I also was mentioning Anabel as it was the only ub back thrn

[opaque dagger]

And damage fields in darach

[solar stirrup]

2% hp

[forest aurora]

I’m realizing I have the perfect units to counter the Masked Royal Ultimate battle (Geeta, Oleana and Arc Steven), but I’m running into the issue of him and his allies constantly curing poison which massively messes with Oleana. Is there a strategy for knowing when I can throw venom drench without it being a waste?

[short gate]

Managed to clear after changing a grid tyle

[nocturne nacelle]

Any rec on how to win.Maybe I did some steps wrong? I managed to get this far (this is a winner team that I found)

[solar stirrup]

LETS GOOOOOO

[forest aurora]

I am also going to be getting 3/5 Geeta for this (also cause she’s my only Field Sync pair I can use on), so are there any grid tiles I really need to pick up for this?

[stone scarab]

best way to do it is just to make sure you always use Mortal Spin prior to Venom Drench in your queue

[forest aurora]

That’s fair. The combo always ensures unless they’re immune to poison that they’ll be afflicted with it.

…Yeesh. It is still putting up one heck of a challenge. They managed to desync me off of keeping them poisoned by doing two item boosts back to back (sneaking it in right before Geeta could reapply poison).

Just seems like I can’t do enough damage to them before they get second Sync off and I lose.

[native shard]

put vigilance on everyone, it makes the fight so much easier

i beat it with 1/5 oleana & geeta and 2/5 arc steven (steven running adrenaline lucky skill since he has built in vigilance)

vigilance lets you live the second sync since it cancels out the sure crit all and lets you actually have steven's defensive buffs in place vs the sync

[nocturne nacelle]

Is there any Place where I can see all the succeful teams for UB?

[stone scarab]

pinned messages have a document that contains successful runs

[nocturne nacelle]

Ok

[rare totem]

Did anyone manage to clear Giovanni UB with 3/5 AS Steven, 5/5 2024 Anni Lillie, and 1/5 SS Lear (all Lvl 150, EXed and caked)? Or do I need to candy anyone? I couldn’t find this in the pinned UB clears document.

[stable tundra]

that team lacks dupes on Arc Steven and SS Lear

[rare totem]

Ah so I guess I do have to candy..

[rare totem]

Sry forgot to say thank u

[stable tundra]

[pallid badger]

The costume battles are as hard as EBE

[rich heron]

Oh

[rotund oasis]

uhhh

[plush gale]

https://youtu.be/h1sYn-fjDqU

[rich heron]

Alola team ended this event

[fading walrus]

Nah

They're pretty fine, aside the Allister one

The other 4 are really tame

[rich heron]

That ice was easiest

One SS n sync move killed them

[stable storm]

the costume battles are pretty easy

allister would have been harder for me if we didn't get unova boost

I brute forced it

[rich heron]

True

Ss N killed easily

[fading walrus]

Yeah I meant from a f2p standpoint

I exclusively used 2+yo seasonals

[stable storm]

true

[fading walrus]

And Allister was the only one I had to restart and not clear blindly

[earnest panther]

You can see how deranged my teams becomes the further I went through these battles.

[warm haven]

Silver propaganda

[crude kite]

tweaking

do NOT ask me how this team managed to clear iono, that’s also something i’m trying to find out 💀 it literally took me 10 minutes

[pine knoll]

Apparently poison isn’t a status effect anymore, used Geeta and poisoned the team but still got the 90% DR

[fading walrus]

I poisoned the robust physique stage and it removes the nerf

[stone scarab]

There are status conditions and status changes, poison counts as a status condition, while something like confusion counts as a status change

The stage was probably asking for a status change

[rich heron]

Ye this stage needs rebuff

So status change

[true lagoon]

not exactly true

[marble portal]

solgalillie taking down Argenta

[solar stirrup]

💀

[valid raft]

You literally have one of the units to counter the fight

[solar stirrup]

But but

It's only acerola

[marble portal]

yeah, not like she's there for damage

[valid raft]

She counters 2 of Argenta's main gimmicks

[shrewd marten]

I’m pretty sure solillie could do it even without her

[fading walrus]

Her + a good tank + any decent DPS neuters argenta

[solar stirrup]

What's argentas gimmick again

Yes I'm very intelligent

[fading walrus]

As Argenta can't do shit versus high sustain tanks, and SS ace increases sustain enormously

[fading walrus]

Rain + terrain (recommended) + interference

[solar stirrup]

Is arc Steven technically a high sustain

I hadn't even bothered to play ubs or the meta

[fast pendant]

I wouldn't say acerola is that relevant there, she's not great at healing nor tanking special hits argenta has

steven is much more tanky and has better healings

any unit with 2 uses of sun could do what acerola is doing if she's not the one tanking

[formal matrix]

But consider this, no quarter bullet seed DPS acerola and she is super effective against argenta

[fading walrus]

Argenta doesn't really attack special side aside the #1 target

So Steven can really tank almost forever

Add to that ace's team sustain so he can self pot and tank even better

And you gain near unkillability

[fast pendant]

what team sustain, if acerola doesn't have copies she doesn't even has healing team under terrain

[fading walrus]

We're not really talking about 1/5

Unless I missed it

We're talking average full kit usage so 3-5/5

[fast pendant]

if you're talking acerola in geenral she's a pretty bad sustain

and she's not giving any def buffs stevne doesn't have

she adds one source of healing while steven has 3 of his own

[fading walrus]

Idk, those two can likely still 2v3

[fast pendant]

4 if you add his ls

[formal matrix]

The UB doc has an Arc Steven + ss acerola duo on Argenta, clearly Anni Lillie is the redundant one

[warm haven]

it would be a solo if steven could remove rain

[snow spruce]

satisfying

[wheat orchid]

Anyone got some advice for the Hilbert battle? I keep dying

[fading walrus]

The last one just requires a decent damage dealer and Phys Def buffing

[wheat orchid]

I’ll have to try something else later once my ipad has charged

[marble portal]

yeah went back to Argenta with a different weather unit besides Acerola, got that done

ofc could’ve been better but yeah

[crude kite]

what does the allister battle need to counter him?

[stable storm]

stat debuffs since he has fluid fortification

[dire flare]

I burned Iono's entire team why is it insisting she needs a status affliction?

[stable tundra]

Burn is not a status change

[dire flare]

then what is?

I also tanked their stats

[stable tundra]

You can find a list of status change here: #1092823068256251945 message

Burn, paralysis, freeze, poison and sleep are status conditions

[wheat orchid]

Im not making a darn dent in Hilbert let alone getting rid of him fast enough

[valid raft]

There are gimmicks to these fights

[manic sparrow]

Having trouble with the first fight here

On the costume battle event that is

Any recommendations?

[stable tundra]

You have to debuff their spdef and inflict a status change

[manic sparrow]

I'm aware, I was using Gordie for the rebuff lol

[stable tundra]

Anni N ignores all of their gimmicks

[manic sparrow]

Oh good point

Piercing Blows my beloved

Sometimes I focus in on what's super effective a bit too much, I went with Anni Lillie 1 there lol

...Who also ignores their gimmicks, but, she's kinda. Not that great. Lol.

[stable tundra]

Yeah, and in case you are not aware, only Moongeist Beam has Piercing Blows

[manic sparrow]

I'm well aware yea

Which was why I brought Gordie

[stable tundra]

[spark isle]

Sharing my pseudo F2P teams in case anyone might need

[manic sparrow]

Aren't four of these five clears w/ seasonal units

[rotund oasis]

funny that anni 24 lillie has the seasonal tag xD

[cosmic token]

24 Lillie F2P

[alpine quiver]

https://youtu.be/FJchjlltf2c

[rain sorrel]

Costume Battle Show 1 F2P with no Anni Lillie

[stable storm]

sillie continues to be the best f2p unit

[alpine quiver]

She's very funny

[rain sorrel]

Costume Battle Show 2 F2P with no Anni Lillie

[gentle wharf]

AND THIS IS FOR ALL THE BATTLE RALLIES YOU WALLED ME

[stable tundra]

deserved

[rain sorrel]

Costume Battle Show 3 F2P with no Anni Lillie

Costume Battle Show 4 F2P with no Anni Lillie

Costume Battle Show 5 F2P with no Anni Lillie

[stable storm]

@rain sorrel great job

[warm haven]

https://youtu.be/tWvkX1dJT80

[high harbor]

Im trying arc cynthia, arc steven and oleana against nita, but oleana always dies on her 1st sync

[stable tundra]

Is Ground Zone active and does Nita have positive speed buffs?

I don't really recommend bringing Oleana here tho

[high harbor]

no

[high harbor]

I saw a video and the dude's oleana survived with 2%

[fast pendant]

that's very gear specific then

[high harbor]

yeah could be
its skinny's team

[bright python]

Should I ping mael for a question regarding UB clears

[fast pendant]

Make the question and then we can see

[bright python]

Essentially it just asks if i should bother recording a finish on Noland's UB that I did that was similar to an existing finish, using 5/5 Shauna EX, 5/5 Lana (NOT EX) and 1/5 EXR nc cheren

since there is an existing finish by Lost using similar units and different states for each of them (his Shauna is 4/5 and NC Cheren is not EX'd, but his Lana is EX'd while mine isn't)

[fast pendant]

one of them is going to Miscellaneous, I assume the strategy isn't very different, so probably not a lot of reason to add another of those

[bright python]

sort of, the majorr change is that i dont sync at all with lana and just sync twice with cheren, with the only other major result is that i finished the battle with more HP than the existing run

[fading walrus]

It's not like syncs matter all that much Vs Noland, especially when using cheren

If it had a different striker I'd say it could be worth bringing up

[floral crypt]

Soo close

[rotund oasis]

almost D:

[plush gale]

Fully Sinnoh Team https://youtu.be/MAPSKmu6yJA

[jovial lodge]

cant beat part 1 with this team (theyre the strongest team i have that has the bonus)

[rotund oasis]

you dont have anyone in there that can negative status change

they have a 90% damage reduction if you dont have any negative status change. Rebuff/Restrain...

You also need to drop their SP.DEF

[spark isle]

Yeah that's why i said pseudo

[jovial lodge]

wait so even if i dont use sp atk i need to reduce their sp def.?

[true lagoon]

they have multipliers for it

so it is ideal

[rotund oasis]

if you let them go with a positive sp.def, they'll hit harder.

[jovial lodge]

i see tyty

[floral crypt]

THE NIGHTMARE IS OVER

Will get it uploaded tomorrow

[snow spruce]

started doing some new UBs (that she hadnt done before) with SSR Cynthia
so far Anabel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOEKT1p__LI
https://i.imgur.com/bBk1Qkt.jpeg
and Evelyn:
https://i.imgur.com/zd1YRwL.jpeg
with those she's at 6 UBs now (Noland, Thorton, Lucy and Darach were already done). Will see how many I can do, hoping to get to 10-11 maybe

[fading walrus]

She's so bad... Ugh

[snow spruce]

nah, she does the same thing as SS N - big AoE sync nuke. Except she brings her own zone (pray for zone refreshes until the 5/5 extension comes)

[fading walrus]

Yeah except SSN actually does more in terms of gimmick countering

[snow spruce]

Using Steven as much as possible for obvious reasons. For weather I use Irida, except for Argenta where you can maybe use Bertha for the trap
if no weather is needed then usually Yarrdenia or rarer SC Irida
for Palmer will definitely need SS Mina

[fading walrus]

She's just a bad DPS, good nuke zoner with Defs drops

Definitely will gain much higher ceilings once we get ghost arc

But she's like in my bottom 3 MFs I have

[snow spruce]

"good nuke zone" thats good enough.

[fading walrus]

It's bland

And boring

Also it takes too long and requires critting most synv

Which I never get

80%? More like 80% of not critting

[snow spruce]

skill issue

[fading walrus]

Yeah, need better rng

In real life

[formal matrix]

Just don’t spam arc Steven and show better skill

[fading walrus]

After all I say Anabel can be worse than Nita for me

[true lagoon]

i cant beat nita or anabel

[fading walrus]

Because Nita doesn't burn 1-2 of my mons with every heat wave

She just wipes my experimental teams but at least it's consistent

[true lagoon]

imagine if nita had sandsear storm

[fading walrus]

Anabel is just

"Oop AoE wave burn"
"Oop blitz burn"
"Oopsie that bulldoze crit your 70% striker, time to reset"

[shell coyote]

need some other suggestions on that stage. I just tried it and it didn't work for me. I'm also missing Unfezant and my Ghetsis isn't EX

But I was still not doing enough damage

[cosmic token]

Lyra: Hey Kris where's you other heel?
Kris: Anabel's getting it removed from her rear.

[marble portal]

tried out FShauntal/Selene/Arc Steven for Argenta

[shell coyote]

nvm, cleared it with ARC Steven (1/5), Anni Lillie and Skyla if anyone needs some team suggestions. And btw this team cleared the entire event by themselves. I had no idea they were this strong

[marble portal]

another clear with Shauntal debuffing the enemy like crazy

curious if she’s useful for Anabel, she’s got stat drops and weather

[stable storm]

she is

[true lagoon]

i need

tech candies

holy fuck

[formal matrix]

We all need

[true lagoon]

[marble portal]

mood

here I am playing with 4 techs that I can't decide where to go

and I just pulled Shauntal who doesn't help with that

[true lagoon]

ive had like 8 techs unraised then i just got marnie and fall shauntal

[formal matrix]

I mean Shauntal 1/5 is fine as a debuff bot

[true lagoon]

[true lagoon]

but i lack midburst for anabel anyway

so that doesnt really help

not to mention my water dps are rain reliant

[marble portal]

who overall would be the best debuffer in the game

could Shauntal compete for that?

[true lagoon]

probably shauntal

[stable storm]

I have a bajillion techs I wanna candy as well

[formal matrix]

Just, find a damage dealer for that instead of Shauntal

[marble portal]

only other unit I can think of that could compete might be Volo

[true lagoon]

actually wait

no

its nc leaf

[stable storm]

aoe?nc leaf

[true lagoon]

-4 stats at once and doubles with b move which is unlimited

[stable storm]

st?cerena

best unit that debuffs?ASS

[true lagoon]

i thought nc leaf debuffing was better

[stable storm]

4/5 Lear

[stable storm]

doesn't cerena do 5 at a time?

[true lagoon]

i have no candies

[true lagoon]

its rng

and it can land multiple of the same debuff

[formal matrix]

Nc leaf can’t debuff speed

[true lagoon]

i mean for consistency nc leaf is better

imo

cerena is just unfortuitous x5 which means you can roll the same stats and end up not debuffing later on

[stable storm]

yes but cerena can do better st with just good rng

[formal matrix]

I like how DC Wally is a very good debuff unit

[marble portal]

my limited techs as of now (yeah I got too many 1/5s dont I)

[formal matrix]

Despite being free

[true lagoon]

[marble portal]

think I got enough that I can finally deal with Ice

[true lagoon]

ok i thought mine were bad but holy shit

[marble portal]

could maaaaaybe use all my candies to get Shauntal and N up

[gentle wharf]

How strong is ShauntaLass’s debuff game?

[stable storm]

4/5 Lear. He's our glorious king

[marble portal]

is he THAT good

[marble portal]

random stat drop x3 per hit, B doubles all decreases

there's also the -2 acc first time she uses Hail but that's pointless in the long run

[stable storm]

no but he probably has the most impactful 4/5 in the game

in terms of how much it improves the unit

@marble portal how's your psychic roster

[stable storm]

allows him to do a ton of hilarious ub clears

[marble portal]

not desperate for Psychic enhancement atm

[stable storm]

why is so much stuff 2/5?

did you get them to 2/5 from candies or gacha

[marble portal]

Bede and Dawn were candies

LuSSa was double gacha pull

Lear I picked up a second copy in one of those free tix

[stable storm]

why candy at all if you are gonna leave them at 2/5?

[marble portal]

that do be a good question

[gentle wharf]

Ah thanks

[marble portal]

SHauntal also has more on grid

[stable storm]

also -1 to all stats on entry iirc

[marble portal]

at the 3/5 mark there's a node that drops enemy accuracy and evasion by 2 first sync and -1 7stat entry

[marble portal]

yeah, but what I said was just the stuff that is doable at base

she debuffs quite well at base

prob the best 1/5 debuffer?

[stable storm]

still nc leaf

[marble portal]

overall I'd still say Volo > Shauntal most likely but from a 1/5 view it's gotta be Shauntal

oh duh I forgot about Leaf again

proud owner of 0/3 NC Kantrio

[hard lantern]

When is nemona's ub coming?

[stable tundra]

should be next month

[agile wave]

If only nc leaf had speed debuffs

[rain sorrel]

Or even Trip Up via Lucky Skill making Speed drops very accessible and have NC Leaf's teammates proc it

[plush gale]

With Fall Shauntal (Non-EX) https://youtu.be/rcBtNPn7IkY

[floral crypt]

https://youtu.be/scjRmz53ncw?si=3B_FHRrFsw0nPQq-

[stable tundra]

Shauntal supremacy

[floral crypt]

Indeed

[stable storm]

I can't wait for nemo

[snow spruce]

why? she is a poorly designed fight
"just bring ~2-3 G./P. terrains with some decent AoE dps and you win" (but without terrain just die)

[fading walrus]

2-3? If you bring psychic terrain you'll melt quite early

Grass will need more yeah because low DPS units

But psychic will destroy

[snow spruce]

ideally yes, but most players will probably still need/want to have at least 2 terrains even on psychic teams

[fading walrus]

Difference between 2 and 3 is pretty huge

[stable storm]

I wanna beat her up with my psychic team

[valid raft]

If left side doesn't die, then face the fury of infinite ETs

[marble portal]

rebuff is a negative status change right

[fast pendant]

yes

[snow spruce]

is it known when the side uses its manual E.T. ? Only after center dies or earlier ?

[valid raft]

Yes, but not an interference

[snow spruce]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonMasters/comments/1g7x3ls/so_i_found_out_the_hard_way_in_battle_rally_that/
kek

[stable storm]

will it be like hippowdown again...

[pliant jewel]

does ub gio always do his stat raise TM at -2 or is there a way to delay/make it sooner?

got him A10, and trying to deal without swapping team members

[low coral]

Gio's UB TMs happen right after he gets to each endurance

[pliant jewel]

Cool. I had to delay my own damage to get around it.

[dusk kernel]

I have a quick question I am having trouble with kuiku…… I mean masked royal ub should I up my arc Steven to 4/5 ( I’m trying to use Janine and Geeta and Steven )

[fading walrus]

You don't need Steven copies at all

Just follow the videos with that team

Unless your Geeta is 1/5

[true lagoon]

i cant do it even with oleana and geeta 😭

[fading walrus]

Then it's another whole story

[fading walrus]

💀

[true lagoon]

its so annoying for 0 reason

[dusk kernel]

Geeta is 3/5

[true lagoon]

like i tried once got to like 75% then nc blue exploded

[fading walrus]

https://youtu.be/fA2eOwcSUB0?si=XQXILw-H_478mnd-

[fading walrus]

No Ice guard?

[true lagoon]

even with ice guard its cancer

ngl

[fading walrus]

Tf

Bruh

Are you like

Not grabbing vigilance on him

[dusk kernel]

Thank you

[true lagoon]

i didnt until i tried lg soloes

[fading walrus]

If you run Ice guard on him

In most cases

You also want vigi

As a crit will onetap him from around 60-75%

[dusk kernel]

Wait doesn’t Steven have built in vigilance?

[fading walrus]

He does

Yea

[true lagoon]

steven also isnt ice weak

so hes by far the better support for mr

honestly the big problem is just the status wiping

its so annoying to deal with

[fading walrus]

It's really not that bad

[true lagoon]

and nc blue paralysis can just randomly decide to fuck you over for venom drench

[fading walrus]

I made a clear with ssroxie + oleana

2 guaranteed poisons

Actually not even

Roxie procced triple para on all my successful runs

[dusk kernel]

No Olena sadly thank God I got Geeta to do this with

[fading walrus]

Oleana can be substituted

Geeta is instead much more useful

Because infinite poison

[snow spruce]

MR is indeed cancer if you cant reeapply guaranteed status several times

[fading walrus]

Oleana needs 3/5 to carry

[fading walrus]

You only need a T1 poison RNG +2 guaranteed applications

So stuff like nidorino can work perfectly fine

Same for janine

[shrewd marten]

If you have geeta it’s easy game

I did it with geeta janine and arc Steven

[fading walrus]

I think royale is very fine if you have any of the top poisons

[fading walrus]

Wonder who spammed that team here hmmm 🤔

[shrewd marten]

Dunno

[fading walrus]

https://youtu.be/OBgB4dz0Ycs?si=MltH3tmsEnihFDXK

Still proud of this one

[shrewd marten]

But no way that thing can oneshot you at any point

Even if no arc Steven

Just don’t get crit

[fading walrus]

Yeah blizzard hurts only if you got no speed debuffs

[dusk kernel]

You want vigi on Geeta and Janine right?

[fading walrus]

If you get to second sync, yea

[dusk kernel]

Thank you

[buoyant tide]

#1009564564821639379 message sos

[plush gale]

With Pirate Gardenia https://youtu.be/B6u1PyT5zoE

[shell aurora]

Aye beat thorton w as steven 4exr, as cynthia 3exr, and 3/5 bertha

[snow spruce]

Bertha having uses in multiple UBs is great

[shell aurora]

I dont have nc silver so had to substitute him w bertha

[spring hazel]

need help clearing this stage. Can I do it with my current invested units? I’ve been trying many teams but even the seasonal outfits are dealing 0 damage

[fading walrus]

Pretty sure bellelba is dark weak

[spring hazel]

shit im stupid

but even then my other units that im trying aren’t dealing damage

[fading walrus]

SSN will drop opponent speed ig

[cosmic token]

Anni24Lillie demolishes all the EBEs.

[fading walrus]

And NC Bede can likely tank

[fading walrus]

They're not even EBEs

They're more like BCs

[cosmic token]

Well whatever. She still obliterates them.

[fading walrus]

Their lillie24 ain't even exed tbh

But she should still work well

Lillie24 + NC Bede and ssn if they're buffed should work

[spring hazel]

you sure about Bede? I don’t think he has any buffs

on the stage to maximize his defense

[fading walrus]

You don't need +6 in every stage anyway

Even tho 1/5 definitely lacks heals

Just bring any good support that has decent Def and speed buffs

[spring hazel]

hmmm, aight I see

im just afraid cuz Bede ain’t exactly defensive either

[karmic onyx]

where can i see the f2p clears?

[valid raft]

For what?

[karmic onyx]

oh sorry , for the costume challenge

part 1

[stable tundra]

some clears have been shared here before, you can scroll up to find them

[plush gale]

https://youtu.be/GQT8EiaQdGY?si=ga_V4FBvB7ewTV2l

[karmic onyx]

waaiit howd you guys know gimmicks?

ie on shauntal , dropping her sp def works

this one

[stable tundra]

We know the details by looking at absol's pastebin which lists out opponents' stats, moves and passives

The ingame hints work decently for this event, since they tell you which stats to debuff

Anni Lillie checks all stages' gimmicks, so you can build teams around her

[karmic onyx]

i didnt notice the sp def one , glad you made me scroll til i found someone ssying to put spdef down

[karmic onyx]

heyy , can you off type on legendary battles

[stable tundra]

Totally, every gamemode aside from Damage Challenge can be offtyped

[karmic onyx]

i felt bad not doing that sooner

i didnt manage to get those 50 power ups

[rigid pivot]

Man this battle sucks

[rotund oasis]

rip. you need heavy debuffers

[true tiger]

Where is sandstorm

[rotund oasis]

oh you probably dont have a sandstorm setter.

[rigid pivot]

Yeah the only one I have is classic elsya and nc Serena

And I guess bt leon but he’s 1/5 rn

[true tiger]

Alr thanks

[rotund oasis]

you do have sunny and hail

sunny's kinda better.

[rigid pivot]

Oh and I have thunder red but he can’t debuff attack and special attack

[rotund oasis]

have ya checked the known clears yet in the pins?

[rigid pivot]

This got me the closest but the buffs got way too out of hand they buff way too often

[true tiger]

No I didn't know they were there

[rotund oasis]

tbh, i managed to clear it with arc steven, geeta 3R and janine xd

[rotund oasis]

ah sorry that was for yachu.

[true tiger]

This thread doesn't show any pins on mobile

[true tiger]

Ah ok mb

[rotund oasis]

+pins

[plucky swan]

See below on how to check channel pins!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/957144362624634931/1214245497754091570/Pin.mp4?ex=65f8693e&is=65e5f43e&hm=b9d9e7a1a428377ebb0ef122514359d2405dd3f4e0775c17f2146eb06ca90a67&

[true tiger]

Ok

That's actually very helpful

Thanks

[rotund oasis]

anyways, change weather and try to drop their sp.def.

[true tiger]

Alr

[rotund oasis]

the other thing you'll need to do is use rebuff/restrain, or interference if anything.

otherwise, you wont be able to deal enough damage.

[true tiger]

Does hail boost ice type DMG?

[true tiger]

Does any f2p unit have restrain

[rotund oasis]

uh we could check your roster?

[true tiger]

Lemme see

[rigid pivot]

Unfortantly the ones I see all use like 4/5 Steven or something crazy like that lol

And I don’t have nc blue

[valid raft]

If they have multipliers for it. Ice zone directly boosts all ice-type damage by 50%

[rigid pivot]

I’m really hoping he reruns January Ngl

[true tiger]

Alr, then what is the purpose for hail?

[true tiger]

Ah sorry, I gotta send it tomorrow I have to go now

[valid raft]

It varies for some units

[rotund oasis]

basically, you have to change their rain

[neat needle]

Genuine question any UB’s I can beat with this team

[rotund oasis]

which ub are you tackling? you can check the pins for the ub reepository.

[neat needle]

Well the three I could do are Palmer, Kukui, and MAYBE Nita with this team

I just don’t have the right amount of stuff to get Kukui and Palmer

[shrewd marten]

Almost all of them

Oh wait that’s 1/5 chase

Try a 3/5 tank

[rotund oasis]

kukui with irida seems deadly.

[shrewd marten]

Well I said almost for a reason :3

[neat needle]

I can get Chase to 3/5

[shrewd marten]

Well I believe this team has done most of the ubs they’re in the doc

But like if you have ncblue or something same thing

[neat needle]

Oh great

Boom

[neat needle]

I don’t have NCBlue but I have ARC Steven

Gotta get to class

[valid raft]

Looks like you'll have a great partner for DC too

[snow spruce]

you are probably not doing Kukui with that team actually.
But the other 12 - can be done, though not all are easy

[neat needle]

I was like what’s DC… then I realized damage challenges smh

I’m 2 turns LMAO

[fast pendant]

Don't click irida's tm

Watch the videos on the clear if you wanna see how it's done

[shrewd marten]

Spam icy wind

[fast pendant]

You have used ice wish early so your grid doesn't look to be correct

[fading walrus]

No speed drop moment

Use Janine

She's better than nidorino if you have arcsteve

[fading walrus]

You don't need 4/5 I think of your Roxie is 3/5

[fading walrus]

Not worth

Investing for UB is like asking for a heavy interest 10000 bucks loan to pay for 30 bucks of groceries

[rigid pivot]

The issue is then I have to rely on posion proc rng

Plus her stats are uh

Something

Yeah see

I die first sync because she needs to do too much and can’t spam venom drench

[rigid pivot]

My Roxie is 3/5 yes

But she can’t proc posion or debuff enoigh

[fading walrus]

No rng

[rigid pivot]

Yeah I realized that in the grid but then this happens

[fading walrus]

That's a +1 speed sync

Which should never happen

As you have like 5 -1 speed procs before then

[rigid pivot]

Well I can’t because they refresh all status turn 3 and I need to reapply to every single one with Janine

[fading walrus]

You know you don't have to poison all 3 at start right

That's a waste of time

[rigid pivot]

At the start maybe but then I take way too much damage if I don’t status the sides after

[fading walrus]

Steven can tank sides easily enough

[rigid pivot]

The sides use Aoe moves

[fading walrus]

Sides should not hurt once you have +6 defences

[rigid pivot]

Like the megaium uses petal blizzard and it almost one shot everyone

[fading walrus]

And ofc this implies you will eventually poison them too depending on rotation

You say that like sync isn't wiping you

You need to understand when to poison sides

[rigid pivot]

Well I posion first ninetales and megaium, then venom drenc, then it uses x speed all

And then I need to posion both sides + mid again which doesn’t give me time to venom

Because they use hyper voice + bs axel + petal blizzard

[fading walrus]

Why are you poisoning meganium

[rigid pivot]

Because it uses seed bomb on Steven which does a crap ton of damage

Yeah see

He can tank it but it’s like idk if it’s gonna ruin my potions

And then like

[fading walrus]

Yeah I ran a couple test rotations, the spatk drops aren't enough

Steven 1/5 with a special poison is definitely not a great combo

[rigid pivot]

Yeahhhhhh..😭

I’m about to get 3/5 Elaine so maybe she’d help butnidk about that

[fading walrus]

If he was 4/5 it would be easy

Or Roxie was 4/5

Venomous sync all definitely could carry enough

[snow spruce]

MR is in the top 3-4 hardest UBs
its harder than Anabel IMO

[fading walrus]

I haven't really tried offtyping him, maybe I should try

[rigid pivot]

I tried with thunder red but I couldn’t do it

Not enough damage

If only classic elsya wasn’t weak to ice

Because no matter what she always died 2nd sync

[fading walrus]

Need NC blue for those 2

[shrewd marten]

Agree

[rigid pivot]

Yeah but unforyantly I couldn’t get him

I didn’t have enough gems at the time

I’m really hoping he reruns January or something

If I pull olena too in a select scout idk if that will be enough either because reapplying posion over and over would be really annoying

[fading walrus]

Eh oleana can make do with almost any other poison limited

With ssroxie 3/5 they can pull off a very fast clear

https://youtu.be/OBgB4dz0Ycs?si=8bpDsZ7DBwgRVpLF

[fading walrus]

Tried 3/5 NC blue + 1/5 celesa + 1/5 tbolt, sadly the final cleanse when mid dies kinda fucks up the clear

It can be done but it requires elesa to crit all her sync imo

[rigid pivot]

I meant like 1/5 olena in this case lol since if it’s in a select scout I probs won’t have the candies to 3/5 them-at least right away

Plus it would be very awkward in the long run with having special and physical posion 3/5 damage dealers

In staduium and stuff I guess

[fading walrus]

Fumbled lategame, still won

Tbolt is stupid

Leon team ftw

[formal matrix]

Look forward to Nemona UB, time to see whether nc blue can tank her with electrorepulsion 3

[snow spruce]

he can for some time, but then you cant kill her and wipe

[fading walrus]

He won't

No offensive debuffs = he (and especially the 2 other units) die pretty fast

[gentle wharf]

Not looking forward to Nemona lol

My roster is crap

[rigid pivot]

All I have is 3/5 ss lusamine 😭

And I have a bad feeling she’s going to be too weak

[stable tundra]

Do you have NC Rosa

[gentle wharf]

In the meantime I’m bullying Barry

[rigid pivot]

Yes but 1/5

[stable tundra]

It will be rough

[rigid pivot]

My anni May is 1/5 too so it’s like

Yeahhhh

Unless I use Bianca

I never bothered to raise rosa because there’s way too many supports I have to raise and she typically doesn’t need it for the most part

[stable tundra]

She does, actually

For the Ultimate Battles especially

You might have a chance of beating Nemona with 3/5 Rosa

[fading walrus]

Bianca will work perfectly fine

More unova stack, mpr on terrain

Rosa might want 3/5

But she could still clutch at 1/5

[rigid pivot]

Well the issue comes by of I have WAY too many supports I need to raise

I usually pick the ones that need it more

Which is why I said Ima probs raise Elaine

But I’m not getting crap for Support tokens rn

And he’ll some supports even want 4/5 or 5/5or something lkke penny which is like ☠️

[stable tundra]

Penny does not need 4/5

[rigid pivot]

Well for content like ult battles you usually want 5/5

For that 2nd rebuff

And crit shield immunity

[stable tundra]

Looking at your available options, NC Rosa is clearly the best option beside Elaine

[stable tundra]

Nah, just use different supports

[fading walrus]

Morty only needs 2/5 in most content

[fading walrus]

I used her 1/5

In 3 UBs

[rigid pivot]

And it’s not like I can use my gold candies anymore like I used to to help with the raising I need to save them for arc Steven ☠️

[fading walrus]

3/5 for giovanni