Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles

[hearty cedar]

Yes

[gilded finch]

MY LUCK IS INSANE

[hearty cedar]

Tried with the fire team

Sync is killing the team thanks to no speed debuffs

Morty, anni N and nc.leaf

[valid raft]

No SS May?

[hearty cedar]

Nope

My victini is 3/5, I'll need more move levels to reliably status it

Can someone try oleana + support + bp erika? Erika has toxic

[valid raft]

Got 'em. Tho I got para luck

[rain sorrel]

I'm really loving how NC Blue starts refusing to paralyze Ninetales after MR uses an item

[valid raft]

Even with HE2?

[rain sorrel]

Yuuuuup

I've gotten Discharges that paralyzed nobody

[valid raft]

I mean, 45% chance to all targets

It's also 9.1125% chance of paralyzing all 3 targets too ||I totally didn't ChatGPT the calcs||

[rain sorrel]

What's NC Blue's para chance with HE2?

[valid raft]

I literally said it

[stable tundra]

Please ping me whenever an Oleana clear without Geeta is shown

[valid raft]

@stable tundra
https://discordapp.com/channels/583120259708616715/1009557516369281075/1293841598035263568

[rain sorrel]

Whoops. Sorry

[stable storm]

first off type mt clear I have seen

[stable tundra]

I said Oleana

[valid raft]

I don't have her

[stable tundra]

[fading walrus]

I'll try that

[valid raft]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-oleana-macrocosmos-pokemonswordandshield-chairmanrose-gif-14130544575959881748

[stable storm]

Do you have 4/5 ss roxie@stable tundra

[stable tundra]

Nope

[fading walrus]

Any other premium poison unit?

[stable storm]

I think I have a potential off type clear but....

[stable tundra]

I saw a Oaknidorino and James clear but that requires 5/5 Oleana

[valid raft]

[stable storm]

yk what I will just send the recording

[fading walrus]

DAMN

[valid raft]

I'm gonna record later

[stable tundra]

Does Emma count

[fading walrus]

Uhhh isn't she ice weak

[stable tundra]

Psychic actually

[bitter lance]

Damn finally beat the masked royale need to give all of my mon vigilance tho because the guaranteed crit is brutal

[stable tundra]

But the lack of aoe poison is concerning

[valid raft]

She has Venomous Sync All IIRC

[stable tundra]

Imma try with James

[stable storm]

I am only getting 3 snatch mprs so far and I need 4-5.... I will also require a lot of potion mprs .....Do ya all think if I put vigilance on Lear and get the luck I mentioned I could beat mr?(I got to 40% in another run cuz of high rolls)

[stable storm]

I'd reckon her+oleana could do it

will need a bulky tank tho

[valid raft]

Who are you gonna poison with?

Emma or Oleana?

[fading walrus]

Oleana has only 1 guaranteed

[stable storm]

as long as I was getting potion mpr I could easily heal back up since there's a lot of little healings. My main issue so far is I die to second sync and I need snatch mpr to negate the buff barage after

[stable storm]

emma

venomous sync all

[stable storm]

chase can mostly keep up with the statusing but has to take a hit from unstatused meganium sometimes

do ya all think the clear is possible?

[valid raft]

Does he have HE9 for TS?

[radiant edge]

https://youtu.be/21yTwNU1gMM

[gilded finch]

This is a tough one, i do need ex role Rei for palmer right?

[stable storm]

Yes

[radiant edge]

Everyone uses AS Steven for support while I use Oak & Nidorino lol

[stable storm]

ofc

[fading walrus]

It's recommended

[stable storm]

I need to para with t shock 6 times minimum

[fading walrus]

Not needed

[agile wave]

what does oak do in this ub

[radiant edge]

he can deduct sp. atk and speed in his grid if that's necessary.

sustain quite well actually

and plus i have him sprint exred lol

[valid raft]

Poison and light screen along with his roles

[fading walrus]

Same as everywhere else

Light screen + guaranteed poison

[radiant edge]

light screen doesn't do much since most opp attacks are phys

[stable storm]

has anyone done a non arc Steven/nc blue/geeta/oleana less clear yet

[covert marlin]

Oak is budget NC Blue, status + some stat drop but not weak to ice

[rain sorrel]

THANK ARCEUS IT'S OVER

[covert marlin]

[gilded finch]

Ok i caked Rei

[stable storm]

I wish I had nc blue in situations like this...

[stable storm]

do ya all think I am onto something?

[gilded finch]

You dont have nc blue?

[radiant edge]

Lear might actually work but im guessing ur struggling with chase landing paralysis

[gentle wharf]

No surprise this team easily clears lol

I tried using Bellelba as the tank but boy she can’t handle a Giga Impact to the face

[hearty cedar]

Why not ditch rosa?

[radiant edge]

Classic Elesa + SS Red + NC Blue might be onto smth.

*SST Red.

[hearty cedar]

That team will work

[valid raft]

The AoEs aren't

Blizzard, Sparkling Aria, Petal Blizzard

[stable storm]

for who, don't I lose damage and potions?

[stable storm]

I returned to poma the day after he ended

[radiant edge]

tbh the moment they start spamming those moves would kind when ur light screen is long gone

[gentle wharf]

I don’t have NC Blue too

[stable storm]

nah,chase para is completely fine

[hearty cedar]

Maybe swap chase with c.elesa

[stable storm]

he9 thock carrying me

[gilded finch]

Lmfao first try not so bad

[rotund oasis]

Whoa. Impressive o.o

[stable storm]

I will have to pray the ticket gives her to me

[radiant edge]

yeah it works, just that snatch mpr is kind of stressing

[hearty cedar]

You are gonna wipe the floor with palmer

[valid raft]

I mean, Primarina uses Blizzard and Meganium uses Petal Blizzard at the 1st sync cycle. Also MR's sync is special

[rotund oasis]

Whose the tank? Steven? O.o

[hearty cedar]

C.elesa for you
Ss wally for me(at 2/5 rn)

[gilded finch]

Im praying for either c elesa or ss morty

[hearty cedar]

Primarina uses sparkling aria. Need to make sure we dont buff it with ss mina's rain

[rain sorrel]

Steven. NC Blue is Ice weak. But this fight is rng heavy cuz you ideally want to para Ninetales every time MR uses an item

[stable storm]

problem is that I need to snatch everyone's stats and I am gonna need 5 mprs to have enough. I will also require more potion mprs to make my units live even if I give Lear vigi

[radiant edge]

i didn't notice mr's sync was spec lol my bad

[marble portal]

could Emolga work out considering weakness?

[rain sorrel]

But with the amount of healing, you're not that much in danger of dying

[valid raft]

If it wasn't special, then Chase's circle wouldn't have made an effect

[stable storm]

why couldn't they make it mpr 3....

[stable storm]

blizzard is special iirc

[valid raft]

Have you ever tried Gloria's TM MPR 1?

[stable storm]

petal blizzard

[radiant edge]

Chase's circle is analysis?

[stable storm]

no

yep

[stable tundra]

Stealing this immediately

[valid raft]

Yes

[stable storm]

I am gonna require so much rng.....

[radiant edge]

damn i thought it was solidarity all these time lmao

😭

[stable storm]

Nah, analysis is the reason ice comp can clear so fast

[radiant edge]

i should probably pick chase when i hit mix pity

[stable storm]

I assume ice comp will rip this one to shreds

[stable tundra]

It's too passive and 50% poison on single target is unreliable

[valid raft]

I'm so grateful to get Chase TBH

[stable storm]

It's so frustrating when snatch doesn't mpr 5 times....

trying runs with vigi

[radiant edge]

5 times is a lot lol

[stable storm]

I got the 4 mpr snatch run but meganium lived at the end and started blasting so I need 5

[radiant edge]

your Lear is 3/5?

[stable storm]

3 only gets to 40% of mr hp

[stable storm]

5/5.

[radiant edge]

damn

[stable storm]

Without buff block tile it would be impossible

mr buffs wayyy too much to debuff through regular snatch without the buff block

[valid raft]

NGL, I think NC Cheren saved my ass here

And he'll be useful for flying 3v3 next week

[radiant edge]

trying to think of a dragon comp for some reason lol

[verbal pawn]

[stable storm]

I wanna be the first to make an off type non nc blue or ASS clear but the rng is pain

[radiant edge]

Alt. Leon can aoe burn and B can debuff atk + speed

just need a sp. atk debuffer

[valid raft]

Brendantios

[radiant edge]

real

[stable storm]

I'd reckon ASS, Arc Lance and alt leon clears

[valid raft]

Tho not AoE

Any AS Cynthia clears yet?

[stable storm]

soon probably

lemme send my grids for my current tries

[valid raft]

How many AoE ice moves did Thorton have? 1 only?

[stable storm]

0 iirc other than sync

[formal matrix]

Rip alt Leon’s go viral is 4/5 tile

[valid raft]

He has Icy Wind

[radiant edge]

he also have triple axel iirc

[valid raft]

Yeah, but not AoE

MR has 2 people that does Blizzard

Himself and left side

[stable storm]

I assume bt Leon arc duo clears

[valid raft]

Any will do

I'm just curious how will AS Cynthia get her ass kicked

[formal matrix]

She already gets kicked ass by cresselia

[valid raft]

Not even 4/5 AS Steven can handle the heat

[low coral]

Arc Duo + Alt Leon did win, yes

[valid raft]

Against MR?

[stable storm]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=010102064800&s0=4&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=21010101&t0=44444&x0=true&g0=AAECAwQFExQVGBocHR4gISIjJA&v1=006600072000&s1=5&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=4444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFERIUFRgZIyUpLC0uLzE&v2=027900002500&s2=3&l2=150&r2=6&p2=0&a2=21010101&t2=4444&x2=true&g2=AAECAwQFDA4QExUWGRodHh8
what I am trying rn

[low coral]

Yes

[valid raft]

Where's the vid or recording?

[snow spruce]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1unwNqwt18yroGqlEpdcnvYBhpn7KdX-ZCD53vqiufzg/edit?gid=1190611733#gid=1190611733
updates are in progress

[snow spruce]

that doesnt happen

[low coral]

In-game

[stable storm]

farthest I got was idk how many potion mprs but 4 snatch mprs which led to mid dying but meganium wreckt me

[valid raft]

Oh it will eventually

[snow spruce]

there was also an Arc Duo + NC blue clear in-game

[stable storm]

any non ASS/NC blue/geeta/oleana clears yet?

[valid raft]

https://tenor.com/view/nemona-nemo-nemona-hands-nemona-anime-nemona-anipoke-gif-1298788096065386270

[stable storm]

pics?

[rotund oasis]

Damnit ball guy is too weak for this... Haaah

[stable storm]

@rotund oasis what you trying

[rotund oasis]

He doesnt have time to use his tm move

[snow spruce]

go in game and see yourself
its not an all UBs team, so I'm not adding it
but Mix red basically does the same things as Nc blue there, or even better (and not weak to Ice)

[stable storm]

Janine instead of ball guy

[gilded finch]

I got a question

[snow spruce]

but no SS Mina + Oleana + SS roxie clear yet that I've seen
90% is Geeta

and no Ice team clears so far

[gilded finch]

Now that i have Rei what piece of gear do i use his feather on?

[stable storm]

no non Geeta oleana ass or nc blue clear yet

[stable storm]

ropalme is probably working on that

or will work on that

[low coral]

I'm getting ready to work, I just checked in-game lol

[snow spruce]

I wonder if Arc Cynthia - Oleana - Arc Steven is actually doable or not

[low coral]

If I even do Ice, it's probably at the weekend the soonest

[snow spruce]

maybe with RNG

[stable storm]

with a lot of gambling probably

[valid raft]

How will you even status them?

[stable storm]

anyone seen a clear like this?

[stable storm]

oleana gunk shot

[valid raft]

30% chance without HE

You sure?

[snow spruce]

30% can be enough

[valid raft]

And then it gets cured

[stable storm]

anything is possible with rng

[snow spruce]

ah, if only Dragapult had a defog or something. It would be the perfect all UBs team with some future-proofing

[stable storm]

nemo gonna clean up the all ub teams that get past this

[rain sorrel]

What's Nemo's UB gimmick again, just WTZ control, right?

[snow spruce]

just remove e.terrain and do negative status change once or twice

[valid raft]

WTZ with Shock Recovery and multipliers under it. Also No Negative Status Change: Def. and Sp. Def. x3

If Nemona syncs, then she cures all negative status change including rebuff

If Nemona crosses the 60%, then she reapplies ET

If Nemona hits you, then she debuffs both defensive stats every time she hits with a move

If ET is up, then you can't lower their stats

[rotund oasis]

Janine kinda dies to blizzard

[chilly dawn]

Yeah uh... Idk this one

I've tried ss morty/nc leaf/geeta

You don't even get middle to half before second sync

[valid raft]

No speed debuffer

Unless Geeta procs it perfectly

[chilly dawn]

Speed only matters when they sync, and second sync kills anyway

You can tank the first one fine

[valid raft]

The 2nd sync didn't kill my team

[formal matrix]

Janine works

[chilly dawn]

Well yeah, I was trying to clear before that

[gentle wharf]

Noice

[chilly dawn]

Turns out aoe dps doesn't do great here

[rotund oasis]

Do you pop geeta's tm before 1st sync?

[formal matrix]

I didn’t use Geeta tm

[rotund oasis]

Hrm

[formal matrix]

Just let Janine venom drench

[chilly dawn]

When does steven get offense debuffs again

4/5?

[formal matrix]

Yes

[chilly dawn]

Balls

Guess I'm not doing that strat then

[stable storm]

Snatch is not mp refreshing 5 times....

What are the odds for 5 snatch mp refreshes again

[valid raft]

30% ^ 5

0.00243

Or 0.243% chance

[stable storm]

what about 4

[rotund oasis]

Pain

[valid raft]

0.81%

[stable storm]

doable.

[formal matrix]

Well my Steven is 5/5 so he did have that atk and sp atk debuff tile, also select Geeta’s poison opponent random debuff -2 tile in grid

[rotund oasis]

Oh thats why lmao

[stable storm]

(there's also the 5 potion mprs I need but yk, just small stuff

[rotund oasis]

My arc steven is 1/5

[valid raft]

2 chances out 5

[stable storm]

I believe in my luck

Just a few more resets

at least outside snatch and potion there's little rng in the run

[chilly dawn]

Yeah I'm just gonna Not

NC Leaf/Geeta is nowhere near enough damage

And I don't have a good enough slowing support

Tbh I'm surprised anyone can solo dps this with geeta, she's never struck me as being that good

[prisma temple]

What we using vs TMR

[chilly dawn]

Geeta/Oleana is the god core

[prisma temple]

Both 1/5

What support

[chilly dawn]

... Tbh oleana might be workable

Any fat fuck will do

[prisma temple]

Nc blue?

Ooor

Steven

[chilly dawn]

Probably

[prisma temple]

Steven my beloved

[chilly dawn]

1/5 oleana might be enough tbh

[prisma temple]

Ill attempt

[chilly dawn]

She's mostly just spamming debuffs

The Geeta is more of an issue

[rotund oasis]

@formal matrix thanks. Didnt need 5/5. 1/5r arc steven, geeta with ruthless and venom drench

If u do need healing, 3/5 arc steven

[gilded finch]

I did it

[paper mural]

Its actually more annoying than I thought...

[rich heron]

Oh I will try that team

[gilded finch]

Can i beat that with 3/5 r sst red and 3/5 r nc blue and 1/5 Klara

[pearl pewter]

how many of the previous 100% UB clear teams got stalled here

[valid raft]

Prolly ice team

Pretty sure AS teams will be stalled by the time Nemona comes next month

[prisma temple]

Do I need Vigilance on my Geeta and Oleana?

Cause that sync just one shotted them both

[valid raft]

If going onto 2nd sync, yes

[prisma temple]

Yeah

Both 1/5

I am poor

[gilded finch]

Oh yeah thats right i have ss roxie 💀

[chilly dawn]

Ok so when are the cleanses? It feels random but they cleanse so bloody often that even geeta is suffering

It always seems to be before the player syncs too

[pearl pewter]

they clear status cond when they use a TM

every time, for their whole team too

[valid raft]

They're not random

[chilly dawn]

It certainly feels it

[valid raft]

They cleanse only when using TMs and when MR reaches 70% HP

[chilly dawn]

Because they cleanse like, every third move

[valid raft]

Yeah, MR uses a TM on his 3rd move

[pearl pewter]

no geeta or oleana so this is a hard skip UB for me

[chilly dawn]

I meant as a team

Every third turn they get, they cleanse

[paper mural]

You just need to rmb what their move orders are and you can exactly predict when they clean it.

[chilly dawn]

And then it slams fecking high five into x spatk all into threshold

[gilded finch]

I found a video where someone did it with 3/5 classic elesa 3/5 arc cynthia and 3/5 nc blue

[valid raft]

Huh, 3 ice weak units

[paper mural]

Btw you really need a sure status unit bc random status unit like NC Blue will be SUPER rng.

[valid raft]

Tho it's actually not a big deal

[gilded finch]

Yeah look

https://youtu.be/EOjTEeqgtMU?si=KghAELQg9V-gzkoT

[chilly dawn]

Ok yeah this is doable maybe

If I can get geeta to fething quadqueue

She is horrifically averse to it

[alpine quiver]

My Oleana grid was wrong, lol

https://youtu.be/XqvsxicP_Rk?si=9fcMzZyTnPZFij4z

[valid raft]

Any NC Cheren clear besides mine?

[gilded finch]

I wish i had oleana lol

My best poison units are ss roxie ariana and klara

[snow spruce]

Based, triple ice weak team doing MR

[valid raft]

TBF, my Blue survived just fine

[snow spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8JsuWryyEI
the Arc Duo-Mix Red clear, saves me the time to do it myself
on track to get 13/13 next month

[valid raft]

As long as you debuff all the necessary stats they have

[chilly dawn]

Ok yeah nvm

Janine does work

Hella tight at the end but it did work

[fading walrus]

Damn I really had to use Geeta and ArcSteven to make Janine be enough for royale

[chilly dawn]

Basically

[fading walrus]

Even tho ArcSteven is 1/5

[chilly dawn]

Anyway that's done

Now to see if I have a working solution for evelyn at all

I tried dual arcs and c iris and it just did not work before

[fading walrus]

Lots of royale teams work for Evelyn too ofc for Evelyn I needed insanely good drops RNG for these 3 but like, if I could clear royale without touching potions I think you can make it work if your Steven is 3 or 4/5

Or if you have NC blue 3/5

[chilly dawn]

Maybe but idk

Geeta barely had the dps for ontype

And I don't really have an ontype option for evelyn

[fading walrus]

No oleana?

No SS Roxie?

[chilly dawn]

Ss roxie is 1/5

No oleana

3/5 exr geeta, 5/5 janine and 3/5 exr arc steven barely squeaked through

AoE penalties hit hard.

I was having similar output issues with arc cynthia on evelyn

[prisma temple]

No one is EXR but Steven
1/5 Oleana
1/5 Geeta
Doable i can confirm

[alpine quiver]

Nice

[valid raft]

Anyone can do another NC Cheren clear for me?

[alpine quiver]

I can attempt it

[valid raft]

Is it the same team as mine?

Just wondering only

[alpine quiver]

What is your team?

[valid raft]

Chase/NC Cheren/NC Blue

[alpine quiver]

I was gonna run Arc Steven instead of Chase

[valid raft]

You have more bulk, but you're not guaranteed the para unless you roll the 9.11% on para proc-ing all 3

[alpine quiver]

I know
I'm a gambler

[fading walrus]

Didn't even touch potions

Until the very end

(just in case I got Geeta frozen)

(and I didn't kill)

Steven is 1/5

[alpine quiver]

Ended up losing
But, I got Masked Royal down to 45% and took out one of the sides

I just got bad luck and didn't para before his sync

[rotund oasis]

noice~

my geeta had vigilance so i could tank w/e he's doing.

[fading walrus]

Yeah same

Because I wasn't sure I could prestnc

[rotund oasis]

but well, janine died, ruthless works so well

[fading walrus]

You can presync most likely

With those 3

But I didn't wanna risk it

I should try again with CS2 and more aggressive sync cycles

4/5 Steven can probably carry Geeta 1/5 and Janine tbfh

[rotund oasis]

possibly..... i wouldn't do it though, geeta needs her sync nuke and ruthless

[fading walrus]

Eh, ruthless is secondary with 4/5 Steven debuffs

The nuke is not that huge when you can just sync with Steven to keep up hp instead

[alpine quiver]

Damn

[rotund oasis]

https://vxtwitter.com/sabatsu_pkms/status/1844281272388210830

2 flying rats and 1 rat. lmao

interesting.

[paper mural]

Zapdos is rat too?

[valid raft]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[fading walrus]

Not bad 1/5 cheren

[agile wave]

can i see the grids pls

[fading walrus]

Steven is base 1/5 with his custom cookie

[stable storm]

I am so close I just need another potion mpr so chase can live

[plush gale]

What about EX Role?

[fading walrus]

Just need geetas

[jaunty light]

hmmm

[plush gale]

I'm currently at 40%

[fading walrus]

I'll post the clear

So y'all can copy it

[jaunty light]

yes please

[stable storm]

Let's goooo

I finally did mr

now time to record the clear now that I did it once

[fading walrus]

With who

[rotund oasis]

geeta , janine and arc steven prolly. o.o

[earnest panther]

How to make the most annoying UB in existance.

[stable storm]

@fading walrus this comp but this time I got a para on sparkling aria and the potion mpr so I won

[fading walrus]

Ahhhh

[stable storm]

this ub drained my remaining sanity.

[fading walrus]

https://youtu.be/fA2eOwcSUB0?si=xXjMdZA2kEmL_YmB

Here's the Janine one

[stable storm]

I am gonna try to do another run and record it for others

[fading walrus]

Gonna up the NC blue NC cheren one

[earnest panther]

The amount of healing they do off of the poison is so frustrating, the battle itself isn't even that hard, it's having to deal with that

[stable storm]

This seems to be the default clear most people are doing from what I saw

[stable storm]

With Chase I had to constantly spam t shock

[rotund oasis]

you have to time their heals tbh.

[fading walrus]

I've been the first doing it lol

At least with 1/5 Steven

[stable storm]

ah that's where it started

[stable storm]

I am pretty sure I didn't click let's go till the end for the final accel

This ub is very interactive but it's also so annoying

[fading walrus]

I wish the buffing wasn't so extreme

[stable storm]

Why do they+2 after sync....

[fading walrus]

Because if it wasn't I would've cooked a cheaper clear with solo oleana

As debuffer

[stable storm]

Oleana james oak cleared

5/5 oleana tho

so not exactly cheap

[fading walrus]

Yeah I mean with 3/5

Lol

[stable storm]

I wish the buffing wasn't so extreme yeh

I am pretty sure I got 5 snatch mprs total so that's 7 snatches used

[slate light]

no oleana, what are my options?

janine?

[stable storm]

Do you have geeta

[fading walrus]

Geeta > oleana

Imo

[slate light]

i do have geeta yeah

[stable storm]

definitely

[slate light]

3/5 and exr

[fading walrus]

For this stage

[stable storm]

do you have arc Steven

or nc blue

[slate light]

yup yup

both ye

[fading walrus]

How tf did you need so much snatch when each one gives you field no stat ups

[stable storm]

@slate light copy clair fan's clear

[slate light]

will do

[stable storm]

snatch only triggers buff block on succes

it fails on unbuffed foes

so I needed them to buff before being able to snatch

almost all their buffs are aoe

[fading walrus]

Mhhh right

Well I still think you could just snatch mid because sides aren't that scary once mid is dead

[stable storm]

I had to time the buff block running out right before sync so I could get one snatch in where the enemy didn't have other units buffed

[fading walrus]

And snatch them only mid-late clear

[stable storm]

unfortunately chase rosa isn't that bulky so I needed to snatch the sides otherwise I would get pummeled

• Lear nuke relies on unbuffed foes

why do these sides have 260k hp...

[fading walrus]

260k is middling

Not that insane

[stable storm]

Yes but a similar ub, gio was 90k

I wish more ubs were like that

[fading walrus]

Well Gio was on a much weaker type and denial played a bigger role

Because of side buffs being huge

[stable storm]

Fair but still I wish the sides were frailer

[valid raft]

Gio relies on pushing his thresholds

[rain sorrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToMtucpoU1w

[stable storm]

Thank goodness Lear got such a good buff

has anyone else done arc steven/nc blue/oleana/geetaless yet?

[fading walrus]

Doubt so? It's been out for 5 hours

[stable storm]

I wonder how the ice clear for this will go

[valid raft]

Am I the only one who's done this with a singular DD?

[stable storm]

Me

[valid raft]

What team again?

[stable storm]

Chase Rosa Lear

[valid raft]

Hmmmm ok

[stable storm]

I killed 1 turn before enemy sync 3

[fading walrus]

Geeta solo DD here, but idk if she counts

[fast pendant]

Knight just posted a video with 2 supps

[rain sorrel]

My initial team had Variety Lyra since she covers Speed and Attack drops but water really doesn't have a status inflictor outside of SS Lysandre

[fading walrus]

That too

[stable storm]

I am wondering if any comp will do this without clearing the buffs

[snow spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOjTEeqgtMU

[stable storm]

oh right water probably dies in this ub

[boreal abyss]

Chompster at work

[valid raft]

C. Elesa is a DD

[stable storm]

Anyone tried ice comp here yet

[valid raft]

Ropalme said on the weekend

[stable storm]

I couldn't find any ice comp replays in game

[stable storm]

can't wait for it

surprisingly, I haven't seen any ss roxie clears yet

What do ya all think of the masked royale ub so far?

[rain sorrel]

Can the future UBs just stop being obsessed with Speed buffs? Please

[stable storm]

Can future ubs stop buffing so aggressively

or at least not buff teamwide almost every attack

[alpine quiver]

Just bring back flinching

[fading walrus]

I mean she's free with geeta

[rain sorrel]

It's a pain in the butt tbh, the fact that MR wants status conditions but he constantly keeps cleansing them with items is such a pain, especially when your damage just gets turned off without status conditions

[stable storm]

Oh right she handles almost all the debuffs right?

[fading walrus]

Solo DPS seems hard-ish with my roster

[boreal abyss]

He cleanses them?

[stable storm]

mine is 1/5 so didn't work out for me

[boreal abyss]

You kidding me right? I haven't touched it yet

[stable storm]

many times

[fading walrus]

Not really? Spdef and spatk

[boreal abyss]

Piece of crap of a stage

[fading walrus]

It's fine

[stable storm]

It's attack and special attack and sp def

[rain sorrel]

Whenever anyone uses an item, if he reaches 70% and when Ninetales dies

[stable storm]

only missing speed

[alpine quiver]

on every item

[fading walrus]

Royale UB is pretty average imo

[boreal abyss]

Vomiting 🤮, thank you all for the info

[fading walrus]

Just needs tinkering with

[boreal abyss]

❣️

[stable storm]

same, I like how it's interactive but it feels a bit too agressive at times

[boreal abyss]

Ew Ew Ew, gross stage

[fading walrus]

The only complaint I have is the amount of spa-atk buffing

[stable storm]

Yes tho it felt harder for me because it's my first time doing an unique clear

[stable storm]

+3 every aoe attack by sides....

[fading walrus]

I've been doing Geeta clears in every ub so

It's nice to blindly first try it

[alpine quiver]

everything can be at -6 and you'll lose because you forgot about that +1 speed the sides give

[stable storm]

I have been getting carried my fairy comp in most ubs so it's nice to do something on my own

[boreal abyss]

Gotta find a good third for what I wanna use

[fading walrus]

Aw hell nah

Celesa is ice weak?

Can't even try my Leon comp this way

[stable storm]

every tm so move 4, after sync, after 1 move right before 2nd sync and after second sync

[stable storm]

what's your poison roster like

[boreal abyss]

Don't care about it

I wanna use SS N

I have Geeta and co but it's too free

Boring

[fading walrus]

Yeah I mean

[stable storm]

what do you wanna use?I may have some suggestions after banging my head against the ub until it broke for 3 hours

[fading walrus]

You can use NC cheren

He's pretty gud here

Even 1/5

[stable storm]

I haven't looked at SS N's kit much

[boreal abyss]

Wanna B!Kyurem that stage away

[fading walrus]

My SSN stays 1/5 for another while

[stable storm]

how often does he para

[boreal abyss]

So like, maybe to force para I gotta NC Blue

At 5/5 he can each fs

Iirc

Or almost guaranteed

I don't remember if he2 is 3/5 or more

[fading walrus]

Always at 3/5 but it's a waste

[stable storm]

What's fs again

[boreal abyss]

Freeze shock

[fading walrus]

Freeze shock

[boreal abyss]

Too busy to type it long

I am at uni haha

[stable storm]

does he para st once per turn

[fading walrus]

Once every 2

Lol

[stable storm]

Cheren handles speed debuffs easily

ehhh

[boreal abyss]

I might NC Blue SS N Cheren ngl

[stable storm]

not sure if the para rate is enough, support will need to para as well

[boreal abyss]

Yeah

Zapdos It is

[stable storm]

was gonna suggest that

Might have to deal with some rng tho

[fading walrus]

Celesa would work too

[boreal abyss]

That's fine

[stable storm]

nc blue is 40% per target aoe right?

[snow spruce]

tbh I dont think SS Mina - SS N - NC Bianca can do MR
but with NC blue probably yeah

[stable storm]

I really wish I had nc blue

[boreal abyss]

Yeah that's whyv

I wanna switch fini with Zapdos

[stable storm]

not nearly enough para lol

[boreal abyss]

For this one it's needed

[stable storm]

that comp was an all ub clear comp for 3 hours

[boreal abyss]

I can give it a try but after 2 hours

English literature moment

[fading walrus]

More like 20 hours

But yea

[boreal abyss]

Who can try it for me

[fading walrus]

Not a day

SSN at 1/5 here lol

[stable storm]

My ss N ain't even caked yet let alone 3/5

I just got him yesterday from the triple strike exr banner(no roxie dupes from there tho, rip)

[boreal abyss]

No way I am alone at 5/5 lmao help

SS N imprisoning me

That's the punishment for all the insults

😂

[fading walrus]

AYO I JUST REALIZED

Why haven't I seen any nihilego clears yet

[stable storm]

Huh

wait she has aoe poison......

[fading walrus]

Yep

[stable storm]

why didn't I think of trying her

.......

[stable storm]

I am more surprised by the lack of rats so far

[boreal abyss]

Time to pull a chad move and clear it while following a uni lesson

[stable storm]

I have only seen 1 sstr clear

[boreal abyss]

Masters priority ✨

[stable storm]

gl

I hope you don't suffer from rng

at least next month's ub will be easy af

[boreal abyss]

Nvm prof is very enthusiastic about today's lesson, gotta follow haha

[slate light]

yahoo

[boreal abyss]

See ya in more than 2 hours

[fading walrus]

Gg

Was the video helpful

[snow spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbLA7PFvcSU

[slate light]

yeah it was handy

had to clutch an iron head ko after geeta's last sync, 1% health moment

[stable storm]

this is the only one I saw

I thought more people would post the rats

[snow spruce]

need Oleana - SS Roxie - SS Mina clear

[spiral summit]

Rats team

[low coral]

I said that would be at the earliest, most likely

I have to actually play the game on the weekend to do it lol

[low coral]

It has been in the replays for a long time, so people would only post it if it's their first clear

[stable storm]

I am especially surprised at the lack of ss roxie even if it has only been 6 hours

[cobalt rune]

Second try. Only event gears

Arcsteven 2/5 geeta 3/5 exrol janine 5 star 0/20

[rain sorrel]

The thing about SS Roxie is that her damage kinda gets turned off the moment MR cleanses his status. Not to mention. she barely deals with his gimmicks

[stable storm]

geeta completely wrecks this huh

she has venomous all sync so with good rng she could keep up

it would be hilarious if poison comp struggled with this

[stable storm]

btw she counters the buff gimmicks

she's only missing speed debuffs

[rain sorrel]

I thought her attack debuffs were dependent if it was paralyzed or poison?

[slate light]

they are

so it's either one or the other unfortunately

[snow spruce]

yes, she needs status both for debuffs and just to use her b-move

without status she is turned off

[slate light]

not to mention g-max stun shock is the only way to reliably status them

unless you clutch the 10% poison chance from b-sludge wave queued after they cure it

[stable storm]

I am assuming perfect rng so status is almost always up

[stable storm]

her common partner, oleana has a 30% st poison and a guaranteed aoe poison

there's also be sludge wave

[slate light]

talking toxie in a vacuum

another enabler is 100% the way to go 👍

[boreal abyss]

Triple axel, really?

On a ninetales

No comment

[slate light]

gastly with elemental punches is still the funniest of all

[forest root]

Wooper

[stable storm]

there's giga impact and blizzard as well btw

High bp moves

[boreal abyss]

Ice guard time

Understood

Denying flinch on this stage is an immense crime btw

Just saying

Bad design choice imo

[stable storm]

It seems like many ubs will have immunity instead of reseliance

[boreal abyss]

That's very bad

Makes everything so much boring

[rain sorrel]

True but I don't want a second coming of Nita UB if it meant I could stun them

[stable storm]

that's gonna happen with nemo(only for off type tho)

[boreal abyss]

This is where we both agree haha

[stable storm]

They saw that some comps were bullying nita

by using flinches

[rain sorrel]

Grassy Terrain + Mallow Teeter Dance copium

[stable storm]

so they decided to make the future ubs unflinchable

[stable storm]

grassy terrain from who

grass will also have an easy time with nemo

[rain sorrel]

Realistically SS Acerola but meme wise eggmon Leafeon

I just realized that SS Lyra + Dahlia + Tank could work wonders for Nemona UB. Dahlia has Teeter Dance

[north chasm]

LOL

[stable storm]

dahlia also has rebuff

[stable storm]

was one of the first clears iirc

[north chasm]

gigachad

[slate light]

based and jamespilled

[rigid pivot]

Ok this one is so stupid

My only good poison damage is ss Roxie and they keep damn removing it

[snow spruce]

James

[valid raft]

It's not constant

[rigid pivot]

Oh my god.

[stable storm]

does oak debuff speed

[rigid pivot]

Im about to get 3/5 elanine so maybe I can wait for that but god

[stable storm]

what move levels

[valid raft]

If you don't at least debuff the offensive stats, then you're kinda fucked

[rigid pivot]

No but i tried sst red and i couldnt debuff enough

Be wise he has to reapply status

[stable storm]

do you have nc blue

[rigid pivot]

I have Steven 1/5 everyone else 3/5

[rigid pivot]

No

[stable storm]

otherwise oak doesn't apply status fast enough to debuff with ss Roxie

you are fucked if you don't constantly have status up

[rigid pivot]

The only nc I got was red

Anni I mean

[stable storm]

do you have chase and irida

[rigid pivot]

Yeah but chase is 1/5 atm

[stable storm]

nvm idk 1/5 chase will work

Chase would be better than arc Steven here because constant status would allow ss Roxie to actually debuff

[rigid pivot]

Well…

☠️

[stable storm]

1/5 isn't that best at surviving

[rigid pivot]

Yeah that’s the issue

Plus I cannot debuff fast enough

I mean…closest i got I guess

[stable storm]

with 3/5 Chase you can because chase gets hostile environment 9 t shock

[rigid pivot]

Oh

Lovely

[rigid pivot]

This is like the only team I can think of that I have that can work other than when I can 3/5 Elaine maybe but I’d feel like she’d die

[stable storm]

I think this team could do it with 3/5 chase?

[hearty cedar]

https://youtu.be/Ujx7uhfwLgo?si=MUOCxQLzHbEZPily

[rigid pivot]

Well I can’t debuff attack is the problem plus I don’t have plans to 3/5 chase which means I’d neee a whole new 2 support candies

Joy

[hearty cedar]

@stable storm told ya there's hope

[stable storm]

?

¿

?

¿

[hearty cedar]

[stable storm]

@snow spruce come here

WTF

[hearty cedar]

You underestimate the power of p.blows

[stable storm]

@hearty cedar I finally did mr with chase Lear rosa btw

[hearty cedar]

Noice

Gratz

[stable storm]

got a lucky para on a sparkling aria so I could get in the final sync

thx

[hearty cedar]

Lear supremacy

[stable storm]

p blows doesn't ignore tripled defenses??

[hearty cedar]

It doesnt

Just yolo the dmg

I mean think about it, this team killed anabel in sun pre sync. The dmg is just ridiculous

[rigid pivot]

But yeah this ultimate battle uh

It sucks

[hearty cedar]

Looks at nemona

[rigid pivot]

I can’t wait me with my 1/5 anni May as my only psychic terrian setter

And no godddamn ss Steven

[mental jasper]

A bit late but the 23rd is the end date of Legendary Gauntlet and the start date of Super Sparring

[stable storm]

Steel team might beat Nemo

[warm haven]

thats cheating

[hearty cedar]

[hearty cedar]

I think so too

[stable storm]

I am seriously starting to think steel team>ice team now

[fossil schooner]

should i do this

[rigid pivot]

4/5 steven’s broken ☠️

[hearty cedar]

The real cheating is noland ub stopping the steel team getting a full sweep thanks to BS moves

[rigid pivot]

But

I do not want to waste 3 damn gold candies for that

[hearty cedar]

Dew it if you can

[fossil schooner]

oh wait nvm this is 5/5 steven

[hearty cedar]

The best unit in the entire game. Worth it(mine's 1/5)

[fossil schooner]

i ain’t doin all that 😂😂😂

[rigid pivot]

Mine’s 1/5 too but I’d rather get 3/5 cythina first shed more valuable at 3/5 I think

[stable storm]

they did Noland already

[warm haven]

Imagine if we get steel zone SST Red

[fossil schooner]

yeah 1/5 steven is fine for most content

[hearty cedar]

She'd be more valuable at 5/5. For other move levels steven is more valuable

[warm haven]

steel might become better than ground

[hearty cedar]

Wut? Is there a video?

[stable storm]

Jerjok doc

[hearty cedar]

I'm pretty sure steel is the best typing atm

[stable storm]

wdym by ground

it's arc duo

[fossil schooner]

would lear/steven/geeta work

[stable storm]

Yes

[warm haven]

nah lillie isnt strong enough

[fossil schooner]

sleeper UB 🥱

[warm haven]

Cynthia is too strong too, and they can slot anything

[rigid pivot]

I was able to do all the ultimate battles so far but I do not think I can do this one anytime soon

[hearty cedar]

Lear boosts her way too much to the point she's actually great

[rigid pivot]

Stupid boosts to everything

[stable storm]

ground isn't the best comp rn

[fossil schooner]

yeah that’s why you use lear to feed her steroids 😭

[stable storm]

Arc duo+ground hasn't done nearly as much as other arc duo comps iirc

[hearty cedar]

Typings wise, steel is the best typing

Comp wise, arc duo + ss lear is the best comp

[rigid pivot]

Yeah that’s the issue with these damn units lol

[warm haven]

well ground is all cynthia

[rigid pivot]

I need so many gold candies

[stable storm]

must have 2 units

[fossil schooner]

arc lance crying in the corner 💔

[rigid pivot]

For them to be used in ult battles well

Like

[fossil schooner]

see you in 2026

[rigid pivot]

Cythina can be used with ss silver at 3/5 I guess

But

[stable storm]

only 1 unit of a type inna comp doesn't make the entire comp a comp of that type @warm haven

[fossil schooner]

does olivia need 3/5 for this?

[rigid pivot]

Then you’re screwed with the anti/gimmicks

[stable storm]

you mean oleana?

[fossil schooner]

yeah autocorrect

[warm haven]

yes and no, the thing is that cynthia has the kit of a full comp lol

[stable storm]

Yes but does the comp have 2 grounds

[warm haven]

so anywhere she is, she's the one doing the heavy damage

[stable storm]

Steel has arc Steven and ss Lear

so it counts as steel comp

[rigid pivot]

Like this team, when I get 3/5 Elaine is like my only hope

If not I have to wait so long for3/5 chase

Or you know champ blue reruns smile

[warm haven]

By pairs yes, by utility no

its (ground) rebuff + zone + weather vs (steel) rebuff + (pasio) circle

[stable storm]

I don't count the Cynthia comps to be ground comps

must have 2 units of the type to count as ground

*ground

Steel comp>Ice comp to me now

[rigid pivot]

What do you guys think? Or Elaine is just going to die lol

[warm haven]

always was (since lear)

[stable storm]

Yes but now we get to see results confirming it

[warm haven]

But i still think they need an OP steel zone, and they'll be able to beat all 13 UBs, not even with weather changing

[stable storm]

I wish I got ASS now

[stable storm]

didn't they do all ubs already

[warm haven]

they apparently can't beat noland

[stable storm]

I swear they did

lemme get jerjok's doc

wtf Noland isn't done yet?

[warm haven]

i just realized this is with x3 defenses holy f

Im not sure if it's more or less impresive than clearing Sun Anabel

[shrewd marten]

What’s his gimmick check

[stable storm]

more impressive

Steven was legit 1v1ing A9 at the end

[fast pendant]

It's a bit different, I think it shows different aspects of the team

[snow spruce]

? no they didnt. at least i didnt see any Noladn clear

[sour elk]

Oh wow this is crazy

[fast pendant]

Anabel is fully offensive on a timer

[sour elk]

And they tried so hard to make Status a hard check

[fast pendant]

This one shows the as well offensive part, but also the denfesive one since you're not under sun to just get oneshot

[snow spruce]

Added the MR Steel clear, they are at 11/12

[rigid pivot]

Actually

Maybe ss Roxie can do it idk

[stable storm]

someone needs to do it then

[shrewd marten]

So is mask royal just debuff

[rigid pivot]

Debuff hell and status

You need to status him every time he uses a trainee move

[stable storm]

and constant status

[rigid pivot]

And at endure

[north chasm]

haven’t tried this but i’m a lil nervous i have oleana 1/5 but i dont know who can reapply status

[stable storm]

do you think they could do Noland?

[shrewd marten]

Alright no Brain cells just geeta it is

[stable storm]

I honestly feel like they could

[rigid pivot]

I mean don’t they instantly die to the eq

[shrewd marten]

Did arc cynthia teams do it yet

I gotta know

[rigid pivot]

Yeah

[stable storm]

Yes

[stable storm]

kill before eq.

[rigid pivot]

Good luck with that wirhout having Steven since fissure

Lol

[rotund oasis]

wow

[rigid pivot]

If I could kill the side before it uses the attack buff maybe?

But idk how I can do as much damage to ninetales

The sure crit insta kills my team

[stable storm]

Lear Steven Cynthia did it so maybe this one as well

[stable storm]

vigilance

[rigid pivot]

Well then I have to sacrifice damage on Roxie

[snow spruce]

a bunch of them

[sour elk]

Cynthia had the ability to one shot the final 50% pretty much, it would be hard to replace that with Lillie as good as she is, though I don't know if perhaps some turn denial could enable it

[shrewd marten]

Ss Lear?

[stable storm]

do you think steel comp could do Noland

[snow spruce]

someone already tried the Steel team on Noland when it was doing all the other UBs and said it wasnt enough, you need to do a ~120K+ dmg burst in 2 attacks
Cynthias burst is better since she gets free 4 PMUNs after sync

[stable storm]

believe in our glorious King Lear

[snow spruce]

and if you kill a side - Noland kills you with crit EQ

[stable storm]

I feel like Lear could achieve most of that

[shrewd marten]

I believe in okabe rintarou

[sour elk]

Iirc Lear didn't have enough damage to replicate the 50% one shot, even with stacked up SMUN

And next to Lillie he wouldn't have much opportunity to stack rather than attack

[stable storm]

lillie could help him catch up

Doesn't Lear have a +2 mun on tm tile?

[rigid pivot]

Plus

Elesya takes 2K damage from 2nd sync anyway

[sour elk]

I thought maybe with godly steel dmg gear but even that seems hard

[stable storm]

If I had ASS I would try to prove it myself

[sour elk]

I could give it a shot later, my Steven is not 4/5 yet but Idt he needs to do much in his 1 turn

Oh I don't have Headstart 1 on him

I'll try after I farm that in lg

[stable storm]

gl

[hearty cedar]

And lillie. Her contribution is actually priceless

[snow spruce]

why didnt you roll on him to boost your SS Lear?

[stable storm]

I wish I got ASS instead of ASC now

[stable storm]

Cynthia is very hot

[forest root]

Fax

[north chasm]

PLEASE stop calling him that

[snow spruce]

ASL ASC ASS

[hearty cedar]

Imo, sun anabel is more impressive considering lear is weak to fire and they beat the stage in sun and pre sync

[stable storm]

I am not using him inappropriately I think

does it sound that bad

[north chasm]

YES

[stable storm]

I am lazy

[snow spruce]

I wonder if ASS + ASC + SC Adaman can bruteforce no status MR too
adaman does good dmg, but no PB

[stable storm]

I do not wanna type long name

[stable storm]

idt the team is strong enough defensively

the mr clear showed how tanky steel comp was

[hearty cedar]

Sun vs sand conflict is too prevalent here

Adaman without sun is almost useless in ubs

[snow spruce]

need a ground pair with PB

[stable storm]

isn't half the team weak to ice, less debuffs, less dr and no circle

what's pb again

[snow spruce]

SC Adaman, not Adaman

[hearty cedar]

Aaaah my bad

[stable storm]

can you try a mun build up style grid on Lear

[hearty cedar]

I absolutely love seeing a free pair like lillie be this damn good

[stable storm]

I can't wait for nemo

[stable storm]

strongest f2p unit

[hearty cedar]

Stings to see her that low in the tierlist

Bcuz her performance contradicts her placement

[warm haven]

yeah but they just beat a x3 def - vigilance UB

[hearty cedar]

They also beat leon without a status condition

When ss lear is weak to fire

[stable storm]

yes but Leon is only crit immune

https://youtu.be/Ujx7uhfwLgo?si=MUOCxQLzHbEZPily

this is my favourite ub clear to watch ever now

[hearty cedar]

[rigid pivot]

😭

[fading walrus]

Bruh I was about to say

"bet steel premium can brute force"

[stable storm]

Steel surviving was also a massive feat

[hearty cedar]

@stable storm look at the comments, someone said the steel team could clear nemona with high difficulty since he encountered max level difficulty nemona in BR

Korin said that he thought it'd be impossible. Tldr, there's hope of steel team defeating nemona ub

[snow spruce]

nah, no one can bruteforce Nemona

terrain nemona*

no debuffs and 170% multipliers = GG

[hearty cedar]

I'm keeping my hopes up

If they cant, its alright

But if they can, then it'll be so amazing

[stable storm]

I saw it

[stable storm]

if someone does it, it's gonna be steel team

would be the ultimate display of power

[hearty cedar]

Btw

The sheet has steven + lear + paulo clear against noland

Not with lillie

Well korin said a video is coming tomorrow about it

[boreal abyss]

Can't wait to return home and face the UB properly

[stable storm]

wdym

[hearty cedar]

Try mega ray if you can

[boreal abyss]

Eh

I dunno man I don't wanna force him where he isn't needed too much

[stable storm]

Gl

[stable storm]

mr is annoying

[boreal abyss]

No weather, no other stuff, ice weak too

[stable storm]

wtf

let's goo

[hearty cedar]

I was messing with ya mate, using mega ray there is too difficult

[boreal abyss]

Impossibile, you can say it

I was instead deploying SS N

[hearty cedar]

Use tosakin's team before tosakin

[fading walrus]

That team can't do it imo, not enough speed debuffs

-2 per cycle is awful

For MR

[boreal abyss]

Lmao I leave the honour to tosakinto, I am trying with SS N NC Cheren

[hearty cedar]

That'll work

[boreal abyss]

Encountered a problem in triple axel sadly

[hearty cedar]

Who's the support?

[fading walrus]

Yeah axel forces NC blue on the ropes right away

[boreal abyss]

So I stopped at giving NC Blue ice guard

[hearty cedar]

Morty is great there

[boreal abyss]

And when I return home gonna restart

[fading walrus]

I always have it on him

[stable storm]

isn't -2 per cycle enough cuz sides don't buff speed on attack?

I didn't try a trad mr clear tho so not sure

[fading walrus]

Idk, I think it's barely enough

[rigid pivot]

if only i had 4/5 bt leon maybe

go viral 9

[hearty cedar]

Hold on, try nc.rosa, ss N and nc.cheren

[rigid pivot]

but you know

[stable storm]

how many speed buffs total?

endure sync and x speed all?

[hearty cedar]

Sync = +2

[stable storm]

x speed all is first cycle iirc

[boreal abyss]

I'll go full unova ig

[fading walrus]

Yeah third move

[boreal abyss]

Problem is to spread paralysis

Like

Robust physique

[stable storm]

I think cheren can keep the enemies at +0?

[boreal abyss]

One at time and constant cleanses are bad bad

[stable storm]

para will be the biggest issue yes

[stable storm]

and tripled defenses

[boreal abyss]

Yeah like

That's why I deployed blue

Sadly

[stable storm]

SS N alone can't keep up imo

[fading walrus]

Not constant but like

1 per cycle + on endure

[stable storm]

in terms of para

[boreal abyss]

No other support who can debuff and para?

[stable storm]

endure is also teamwide +2 right and not just self?

[fading walrus]

Yeah I think so?

[stable storm]

oof

[hearty cedar]

1. Just para them again if needed
2. He has p.blows so no need to worry about it if you can clear sides with sync and cheren's power. The only downside is ss N's sync will not get dirty sync 6 powerup without the para

[stable storm]

so need to para 9 times minimum

[boreal abyss]

Jesus Christ

[fading walrus]

Yeah with pblows you can ignore robust

The issue is imo the debuffs needed

[boreal abyss]

I could like uh

Swap put cheren, put NC Bianca

[stable storm]

problem is tripled defenses makes it so that you must para

[boreal abyss]

I guess?

[hearty cedar]

With proper turn denial, we can keep up with the debuffs

[boreal abyss]

Like the speed seems ok to handle right?

[warm haven]

[stable storm]

nah keep cheren for now

[boreal abyss]

Hope N's debuffs are enough

[stable storm]

see how much you survive

[boreal abyss]

You sure?

[boreal abyss]

Ask that to blue

Dying at seed bomb turn 2

Without guard

[hearty cedar]

Better imo. Bianca's debuffs allows him to sync consistently and p.blows on her makes her not care about status at all

[stable storm]

isn't that buffless?

[boreal abyss]

That's the neat part, even triple axel is