putting it on a pin is fine
#Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles
buoyant tide
am i missing something about clear advantage
i did my triple alola lusamine clear with 5a lillie
and that was fine
i have 0 psychic alola units so my wtz is bp lusamine
and yet even with mallow as my dps im doing just about nothing even with a solar flare max multiplier boosted sync
fading walrus
1/5 Steven really making these two shine so much, I kneel š§āāļø
buoyant tide
is the best move 5a lillie, whichever of selene or mallow has better defense, and a non-alola psychic and then just praying for as few bulldoze/eq rolls as possible?
or is it somehow better to throw a yolo roll at the tapu banner and its 0.5 bs
or third option do i just wait for all the alola tickets i can redeem and pray i get gladion before the event ends
loud adder
You could try Kiawe, Bianca and Mallow but it'll take a bit of investment.
fading walrus
is the best move 5a lillie, whichever of selene or mallow has better defense, an...
You have literally 0 psychic alolans?
If so, who's your better psychic limited
paper mural
5aLillie + 2 non Alola can work. You just need to pick right ones that don't die easily.
buoyant tide
yeah,,,
bianca is one of my favs to use but
i havent been able to get her to survive let alone deal damage here
loud adder
She's not supposed to be the damage dealer. She's only there to counter Clear Advantage.
buoyant tide
i know
but like
if the 5x boosted alola units arent dealing dmg either
we sort of run into an issue lol
loud adder
Mind if I see your Grass roster too?
loud adder
Oof is right
loud adder
Not to mention the Endurance procs
buoyant tide
A24lillie + BP lusa + Sabrina can work too
hm, i had tried sabrina with endure again and reflect turn 1 and even then she got nuked by the initial drain punch so the turn 2 bulldoze just took her out
loud adder
I'd recommend using Lillie as the first target and using a grid with Nerves of Steel.
spiral summit
Let A Lillie tank
buoyant tide
she can tank high horsepower not just the spreads?
fading walrus
hm, i had tried sabrina with endure again and reflect turn 1 and even then she g...
You're not meant to have be target #1
loud adder
she can tank high horsepower not just the spreads?
She can do it way better than the other two, that's for sure.
fading walrus
she can tank high horsepower not just the spreads?
If she's ex, yea
spiral summit
You can try flinch with will ofc
fading walrus
Esp with reflect
buoyant tide
alr, noted. shes exr so
buoyant tide
lusa was for sun to counter clear advantage, presumably with 5a lillie we dont need that
so yeah mallow
alr. o7 ty gamers for the assist, will lyk how this goes
spiral summit
Lillie already ignored passive
EXR just help her dmg way better to finish the stage faster bc Sync can deal dmg
loud adder
alr. o7 ty gamers for the assist, will lyk how this goes
Good luck!
buoyant tide
also clair if you have any recs for good additions to my psychic roster
i think deoxys is a very fun unit but realistically i think either sygna lusamine or sygna lana
loud adder
SS Steven, Jacq, LuSSamine and SS Lana are your best picks.
buoyant tide
i should look more into jacq huh
loud adder
Lana's the most valuable for Psychic Terrain utility but Steven doesn't even need it to succeed.
loud adder
i should look more into jacq huh
If you're willing to make the investment, sure.
spiral summit
SS Steven just one of the best 1/5 PF
fast pendant
Lussamine is one of the weakest limited psychic at the moment, I wouldn't recommend
paper mural
buoyant tide
by look to be clear i mean that i just dont know about him as a unit
paper mural
Just a random try and it works.
buoyant tide
Lussamine is one of the weakest limited psychic at the moment, I wouldn't recomm...
oh really? alr, good to know
spiral summit
With new Anni Lillie, Alola BC is way easier than before
loud adder
oh really? alr, good to know
She's good for on-type and otherwise useless.
buoyant tide
so deoxys, tapu lana, or jacq pending learning more about his kit
spiral summit
Deoxys you can just ignore other form and use Atk tho
Those have some use but very little
buoyant tide
yeah, when he cycled back in a bit ago i was still either prepping to go hard for ball guy or in the hole from having unsuccessfully gone hard for ball guy
paper mural
I use his defense form a lot in br.
loud adder
Those have some use but very little
Hydrogen bomb vs coughing babies, if you will. 
buoyant tide
and in general i only pull on pfs if i Really want the unit (hence ball guy)
spiral summit
Hydrogen bomb vs coughing babies, if you will. <:CynthiaSmug:601614489783238669>
Tbf i use his Normal form a lot in Lg and Br
buoyant tide
but i remember when he debuted and god what a neat unit
i wish we had more like that and mew
spiral summit
Normal just really good for LG
loud adder
and in general i only pull on pfs if i Really want the unit (hence ball guy)
Make sure to save up your gems btw. With the introduction of Arc Suits...you're gonna need those. A Psychic Arc Suit unit would be fantastic.
spiral summit
And in Br i have enough tank so most of the time i need flinch to cheese more
But most of the time, Atk is the easiest to use
fading walrus
also clair if you have any recs for good additions to my psychic roster
Steven is just so easy to splash
buoyant tide
Make sure to save up your gems btw. With the introduction of Arc Suits...you're ...
my gems are currently being saved for nc blue rerun
fading walrus
Easily one of the best units for a new player
loud adder
Normal just really good for LG
Wouldn't have known since mine is only 1/5.
fading walrus
His defence form actually works with EXR
buoyant tide
but otherwise yeah
spiral summit
Wouldn't have known since mine is only 1/5.
Even at 1/5 he is a really good duo in Lg
fading walrus
And he can do anything you need as long as it's in EBE and such tiers of content
spiral summit
Bc 60% flinch, 100% accurate and 1 bar
loud adder
my gems are currently being saved for nc blue rerun
Definitely worth the gems!
fading walrus
Speed and normal are crazy for LG
buoyant tide
alr, deoxys will move up in the priority ranking! good to know
paper mural
I just refuse to cake any support & exr tech other than NC Calem, so sometimes when I meet 2 support + tech stages I need to use SS Steven as tank in one of them.
buoyant tide
i was thinking they probably had been pretty powercrept by now too
fading walrus
And 2/4 forms work really well at 1/5
(Def and atk)
He was considered the best new account unit for a long while
spiral summit
His Atk form at 1/5 is already really good
Since he doesnāt gain more Sync multiplier funny enough
buoyant tide
so that gives me:
- nc blue
- nc rosa
- sst red
- nc red or irida (red better, but i like/want irida)
- deoxys
- sygna roxie & piers
- sygna hilbert or sc barry
- something dragon
- nc leaf, tapu lana, tapu mina, (would be nice but can make do without)
spiral summit
so that gives me:
- nc blue
- nc rosa
- sst red
- nc red or irida (red better, b...
SS Roxie is Poison type
paper mural
Pull mix scout if you want this much pairs. You can always get them randomly.
spiral summit
Yeah, still really random
buoyant tide
and requires paid gems only
spiral summit
Yeah, paid is always the problem
fast pendant
Let's refocus here, pls
buoyant tide
sorry
but yeah good to know that deoxys has retained strength/value, maybe if i can snag him i can get a second ub clear 
inching my way towards endgame ever so slowly lmao
fading walrus
UBs are rarely about a single unit
Aside couple cases
Which are arc Cynthia, arc Steven and NC blue imo
All other "UB winners" are always in tandem with other same level or slightly lower level units accompanying them
formal matrix
UBs are about more advanced gimmicks thatās above LG level, needs certain type of unit to remove the gimmick. There are rare cases that some units are so strong so they win regardless
fading walrus
When that happens is mostly from overwhelming powercreep or through absurd synergy of damage stacking
I.e. fairy Vs Leon, steel Vs anabel
formal matrix
(Anyway e terrain Nemona will end them all 
snow spruce
Nemona will kneel to Avery 
fading walrus
Yeah ....... Idk about that
Sure with psychic type teams he'll carry hard
But idk without
shrewd marten
snow spruce
But idk without
why? he has 2 psychic terrains and a decent sync nuke (Brainpower, Tech EXR, 500+ SpAtk) that does SE dmg to nemona
that seems more then enough together with another strong offtype DD to wipe her - all her power is in the E.Terrain. Without it she is probably in the bottom 2-3 weakest UBs, just has fat sides
without terrain she loses all multipliers, loses Electrorepulsion 3, isnt immune to interference, isnt immune to debuffs, doesnt heal.
Her HP is only about same as Palmer 550K and Atk/Spatk is ~3260
shrewd marten
Heās a gimmick checker
snow spruce
Her moves are also ~low BP mostly - Thunder Punch, Swift, Wild Charge, Discharge
if you can remove E.terrain twice (at start and 60% hp) and can pre-sync her - you've already won
fading walrus
why? he has 2 psychic terrains and a decent sync nuke (Brainpower, Tech EXR, 500...
Yeah.... we'll see
short gate
gilded finch
I found 2 other good feathers too
stable tundra
Stats matter more so stick to the ones that give better stats
Special feathers always give 60 atk/spatk and 70 hp
gilded finch
Heres one i think its actually made for ss piers
Nvm i only found this one aside from the previous feather lol
gilded finch
I beat Leon
fading walrus
Yeah idk how you were struggling with him with these 3
Look at how early you got the win
gilded finch
Look at how early you got the win <:WEEZing:732044368554229892>
Its just ended up being rng at one point
Im screwed with Nita tho
I only see clears with irida who i dont have
š
They really need to bring her and adaman back
fading walrus
Eevee day next month š¤
paper girder
quick question where do I put skill feather 46, 47 and 48? you know he ones for the arc suit champions? bracelet, pin or bandana?
stable tundra
Depends on your needs and preferences as there is no objectively best gear to use those feathers on
errant kite
I just wanted to post all the first-time UB clears I've managed in the past few days
you'll probably notice they all have one unit in common
a UB machine
(I never touched most of the UBs previously as I didn't think I'd have a chance at them)
fading walrus
I just wanted to post all the first-time UB clears I've managed in the past few ...
The calem clutch lol
errant kite
he carried 
marble flume
I managed to do the Evelyn UB today with SSA Cynthia/SS Nemona/Penny
So that was nice
fading walrus
Penny+ Nemona is really nice Vs Evelyn
Just need a decent third to face tank crunch and dragon darts
stable storm
I am worried about mr
my current plan is chase+ ss lear+ lillie
or chase+rosa+Lear
fading walrus
That team doesnāt even get hit by the Dragon Darts, actually
Well my run did because my nemona is 1/5 non exr
And my third was ssmina
marble flume
Fair enough
fading walrus
Thankfully I had a cheat code for darts
Team dragon guard+ dragon guard on penny + mina
fading walrus
Nobody did a ho-oh Geeta oleana clear on Nita right
Because I get close but my Morty is only 2/5
(sides at 10-25%, Nita at 15-20%)
naive lotus
Down she goes
fading walrus
Because I get close but my Morty is only 2/5 <:LarryDead:1090014801654198383>
Got a god run but still fumbled to EQ around same threshold, guess I'd need ground guard or just better potion luck... Or a 3+/5 grid on Morty
If anyone wants to try this
craggy wind
I just wanted to post all the first-time UB clears I've managed in the past few ...
DIANTHA CLEAR 
Tai didnt use Clemont for electric? 
craggy wind
does Palmer ALWAYS use max move after sync move?
Yes dont run from it
Thats your deadline
twin warren
i thought it was the case but i just beat it right before he would max move but instead it was rock slide and not max move
i was confused
I think he might rock slide instead of max move if you take the sides out before he would do it
because I believe I took the sides out before then
fading walrus
i thought it was the case but i just beat it right before he would max move but ...
He does rock slide if he knows he dying
The AI already calculated the hit
twin warren
oh I see thanks
neat needle
Are any of my sync pairs enough to beat the other UBās? I alr have done Argentina, Lucy, and Darach
Oh I also have SS Lear
fading walrus
š¦š·
You have 3/5 Rei, NC Rosa and aura cynthia/sslear so you can definitely cook Palmer with them
neat needle
You have 3/5 Rei, NC Rosa and aura cynthia/sslear so you can definitely cook Pal...
Between SSLear and AuraCynth what should I use? I donāt have EXR on either
rotund oasis
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=014900005900&s0=3&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=21010101&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFCw0QHSAiIyUpLC4&v1=001701014600&s1=3&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=21010101&t1=44444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFCw4dHyAjJSksLS4&v2=014802025001&s2=3&l2=150&r2=6&p2=0&a2=21010101&t2=44444&x2=true&g2=AAECAwQFExQXGBkmKCks i wonder if this is aggressive enough debuffing. ;-;
for masked royale ub
status condition & aggressive debuffing + spd
snow spruce
all UBs done with Arc Duo + Mix Red
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2i1HyzhuZw
whats interesting is that:
- this team can probably do both MR and Nemona and go 13/13
- he didnt even use Max guard on Noland at all, just let Red die and still won (edit: nvm - Mix Red doesnt even have a Max Guard lol)
snow spruce
also neat trick is that Red dying to Nolands fissure - allowed him to quad queue after Cynthias first sync
stone scarab
Yeah, having an ally die gives a bit of a buffer window on queuing
snow spruce
There are now 3 Red pairs that have 11/11 same team UB clears.
But after Nemona that might go down to 1 and the one left will be not the masterfair Reds, but Mix Red
deep drift
dayum is red venusaur from mix paid pool?
stable tundra
Yes, but he has very low rate, like other non featured 5*
shrewd marten
https://youtu.be/_3ustBOkua8 anyway gay duck committing crime
I
It
Move so much
It actually moves so much
Too much
deep drift
Does argenta UB rain raise suicunes defense?
Still can't beat her... Tried the 3 arcs together
stable tundra
You need to not let her having rain on the field at all
deep drift
Got her down to 50% all sides killed but Cynthia can't sand storm forever and it literally heals all the dmg I did
stable tundra
Since she only sets rain twice you can save 1 sandstorm for each instance
deep drift
Yeah I sand stormed right in the beginningš
small basin
make sure to save cynthia's sync for half bar too
since argenta also rids of rebuff at half
deep drift
Oh that's why at 50% I did no DMG
deep drift
All the arcs lol
stable storm
all UBs done with Arc Duo + Mix Red
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2i1HyzhuZw
potential all ub clear team?
post mr and nemona
errant kite
DIANTHA CLEAR <:BarryPogChamp:718173426199560315>
And dw once I get Arc Suit Clemontā¢ļø Leon will go DOWN
gentle wharf
I thought you already beat Leon?
Myself Iām still waiting for key units to beat Leon and Nita
valid raft
AS Diantha will destroy Evelyn with 2 F2P units that aren't limited
warm haven
all UBs done with Arc Duo + Mix Red
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2i1HyzhuZw
nice
yeah they're beating all 13 UBs
snow spruce
yeah they're beating all 13 UBs
Unlike the NC blue - Cynthia - Avery team, I dont think that one can presync Nemona.
But she wont get her terrain back until she syncs, so first 6 turns she will get fully debuffed to -6 everything and deal very little damage (including the sync).
After the sync she should be relatively low and can probably be finished off since there is no max move timer like with Palmer
Also she will be taking sand chip + poison + trap damage every turn (without terrain she loses Grounding Wire, so not immune to trap first 6 turns).
or you can also do reds sync not after her 60%, but wait until her sync and then overwrite it. Maybe even time it so she hits 60% right before her sync - so you overwrite both those terrains at once
The only thing to worry about is when the sidemon uses its manual E.Terrain - is it after sync or after mid dies?
stable storm
Unlike the NC blue - Cynthia - Avery team, I dont think that one can presync Nem...
will razor leaf poison be enough for mr
stable storm
Unlike the NC blue - Cynthia - Avery team, I dont think that one can presync Nem...
doesn't nemo et on endure?
snow spruce
will razor leaf poison be enough for mr
Of course, why wouldnt it be?
stable storm
Gl to whoever attempts to win the coin flip each time
snow spruce
doesn't nemo et on endure?
Yes, thats the 60% endure
stable storm
So you don't do 60% to nemona till after her sync?
warm haven
Unlike the NC blue - Cynthia - Avery team, I dont think that one can presync Nem...
Idt they have problem with nemona, she doesn't have high hp
And red starts removing her terrain
stable storm
Idt they have problem with nemona, she doesn't have high hp
was it 780k or 580k?
snow spruce
only 560K
and sides 470K
she is basically Palmer with terrain and bulkier sides, but no max move death timer
snow spruce
So you don't do 60% to nemona till after her sync?
Yes that might be ideal. Then she syncs without terrrain, right after her sync - you bring her to 60% (with like 1 EQ) and then immediately sync with red to overwrite
and then just unga bunga the remaining 60%
without terrain she is no threat and will be at -6 stats the whole fight.
Even if she resets all debuffs on sync - will just quickly get debuffed back to -6 again
I will probably do MR and Nemona myself with that team (ArcDuo_mix Red)
but will need to find someone to do 13/13 with NC Blue-Cynthia-Avery
stable tundra
But how can you survive her sync under terrain
paper mural
She wont have et when she sync. You will change the debut et and the second et (60% and post sync overlap).
snow spruce
thats the strat for Mix Red team. But with Avery you can just presync IMO
snow spruce
But how can you survive her sync under terrain
if she has atk debuffed and you are at 6 def and near full HP - can definitely survive the sync even in terrain IMO.
But in these scenarios you dont push her to 60% until right after she syncs - which means she would be syncing without terrain
stable tundra
I want to see the strat in practice to confirm the theory
marble portal
been thinking about the MR UB
which Ik needs a bunch of status and stat drops
since I lack Geeta (but do have Oleana) could I use CElesa to get the stat drops in until Iām ready to use G-Max Malodor?
idk who else could reliably AOE poison, I got FIris but donāt think thatās practical, esp 1/5
true lagoon
you need another poisoner unless youāre comfortable fishing for poison from gunk shot
hard lantern
Oof
marble portal
who is the best for applying constant poison besides Geeta
rich heron
No one ig
true lagoon
do you have oleana
true lagoon
i think she has hostile environment so that works
stable tundra
No she doesn't
marble portal
she doesnāt
stable tundra
I don't think there is someone who reliably applies aoe poison besides Geeta and Alt Selene
marble portal
ah
donāt have Selene
prob gonna try something with Oleana and arc Steven at least
true lagoon
hmi do have alt selene
hard lantern
Oh rat still reigns supreme. Who knew?
marble portal
hmi do have alt selene
if youāre talking to me I literally just said I donāt have her
true lagoon
well i was talking to myself but i also have 3/5 geeta so i shouldnt have problems
hard lantern
what's this about constant poison? who's that for? MR?
marble portal
yeah
think Volo might also work for the debuffs part but again, need status
donāt have him high enough anyway
marble portal
para yeah
canāt sleep or freeze but everything else works
has to be poison, burn, paralysis
hard lantern
valid raft
who is the best for applying constant poison besides Geeta
Maybe Drasna
marble portal
yeah about that. donāt even have marnie
hard lantern
celesa can aoe nuzzle all day everyday
valid raft
Isn't she Ice weak
Toxic 
small basin
getting really close with this team
4/5 exr morty +8
5/5 exr n +10
1/5 exr leon
i'm shrimply goated
hearty cedar
That's a cool team
stable storm
what are ya all planning for not kukui
snow spruce
Arc Duo-Mix Red and will try Ice team too
stable storm
Arc Duo-Mix Red and will try Ice team too
I will try chase, ss Lear and sillie
(I am definitely cooking, trust)
(I am not coping)
(My emma and ss Roxie being 1/5 definitely won't bite me in the back)
hearty cedar
Go and pull on the triple banner for ss roxie
snow spruce
you dont need poison pairs to clear MR
just status and debuffs
stable storm
you dont need poison pairs to clear MR
just status and debuffs
problem is idk if I will be able to clear fast enough considering that I won't be debuffing attack
dark dust
Quick question: does Leon have a way to clear your WTZ
hearty cedar
Yes
stable storm
so even with like 50% dr I might die
hearty cedar
At 60%
stable storm
endure
dark dust
Oh
So no Red sync to push him at 60%, got it
Or I can just queue ET or whatever
We'll see how this BR goes
fading walrus
So no Red sync to push him at 60%, got it
You can, just instaqueue et right after
dark dust
Well it worked well enough
small basin
one volillion damage
fading walrus
Best bug dps
buoyant tide
@naive lotus for time trial discussing: i 100% cheesed it by just using arc cyn for my 1:22
looking at the pastebin for the locked missions tho. i have no idea how im gonna do rock sub 3
formal matrix
Sync countdown units
buoyant tide
did elec and fairy with just 2 decent units and anni lillie as my carry but
drain punch means roxanne isnt gonna be tanking
i do now have gordie 2/5 from a small degree of 5* ticket luck so maybe timer pause from max move is the way?
idk
may just be a pick a god and pray moment lmao
fading walrus
Sync countdown units
Yeah sub 30 is free with a lot of units with cd
buoyant tide
shiiiiiiiit
marble portal
what are ya all planning for not kukui
prob trying CElesa/Oleana/Arc Steven
saving G-Max Malodor for closer to the end
levels for the team
north chasm
hearty cedar
Noice
fading walrus
what are ya all planning for not kukui
1/5 Steven + 3/5 Geeta duo maybe
upbeat kiln
Hey guys, whats the easiest method to clearing UB Thorton
opaque dagger
NC leaf
fading walrus
Or SS Hilda
upbeat kiln
Who to pair NC leaf with
fading walrus
Anything that lets her survive as long as possible+ an extra sun set or two
low coral
SS Hilda ain't particularly an easy mode for Thorton
She's a good unit for it, but doesn't really counter him
fading walrus
I mean as long as you have a unit to debuff she can solo DPS him
That's good enough for me to classify her as carry for the stage
opaque dagger
Debuff and rebuff
shrewd marten
SS Hilda ain't particularly an easy mode for Thorton
The easy mode unit is ncleaf lol
gilded finch
Rei aint coming back fast enough lmao
shrewd marten
Where are time trial strats
shrewd marten
It is under rerun tab, so it's easy to not notice it
I said Strats
stable tundra
+reading
plucky swanBOT
stable tundra
Anyway just bring sync nuker
gilded finch
Lmao
shrewd marten
Anyway just bring sync nuker
Blud thereās gotta be people posting strat
stable tundra
You can wait for them then 
or if you are insane you can search for the strats posted when the event first ran during Feb
true lagoon
Blud thereās gotta be people posting strat
its just use wtz or else they have doubled def and sync accel out rhe ass
someone got sub30 with lear
valid raft
shrewd marten
how are you 10 seconds faster than me
valid raft
how are you 10 seconds faster than me
I got para luck
lusty moat
i have arc suit synthia 2/5 is it possible to beat ulimate challange ( GROUND TYPE ) with some f2p or other support ????
stable storm
i have arc suit synthia 2/5 is it possible to beat ulimate challange ( GROUND TY...
you mean lucy?
north thistle
I think mean seviper
stable tundra
Lucy is Serviper's trainer
fading walrus
<:Rei:1243955095918608505>
Are you guys trying offtype fastest clear?
lusty moat
you mean lucy?
Ya
stable storm
Ya
easily.
go Courtney Cynthia and a bulky tank that has healing
give everyone anti toxin
and win
pearl pewter
if we talking about time trial I have some ideas for sub 20
but itās gonna need HS1
SSAC TM, Lillie TM into lear, lear snatch into hapu, get prop 1 and sync
actually I donāt think lear needs CS2, just rising tide is enough so he could run HS1 too
stable tundra
Who do you think that can work as a bulky tank
Doom already suggested 2 viable options for the team
pearl pewter
Using these sync pair how can I defeat lucy
1/5 arc cynthia 5/5 bertha 5/5 lillie
no +E required but you need to get all of them antitoxin LS
pearl pewter
Using these sync pair how can I defeat lucy
get arc Cynthiaās 2/5 hit trapped opp: speed down tile and TM mpr tile
should be much easier
make sure to get skill gear for them too
hope it helps
fading walrus
Sick
The Palmer clear is especially crazy
Tanking like...4? Moves after max move
Lol
Anyone got to 7 sync buffs versus him? I doubt
dim lance
He says it can nearly full clear everything
warm haven
finally SS N propaganda
snow spruce
another carry by SS Wina
dim lance
if anything Bianca finally has a secure comp she wants a say in lol
mental jasper
another carry by SS Wina <:MinaBreak:1103286730762760302>
stealing this name, thanks
warm haven
if anything Bianca finally has a secure comp she wants a say in lol
eh
not sure what she's doing there that's not replaceable
i'll keep watching
snow spruce
He says it can *nearly* full clear everything
which ones cant it? Thorton or Argenta ?
because for the first 11 - Noland and Nita are the main blocks and those were done
fading walrus
not sure what she's doing there that's not replaceable
The ST staggering + 2 Def, 1 atks debuffs probably
Also circle
And cd rushing
All in one kit
snow spruce
or Leon maybe
dim lance
He wasn't sure if he could clear Leon
but Leon's the only one
if he can clear that, he full clears everything
fading walrus
Beating nita with his slow speed debuff <:CyrusSweat:612793698798927899>
It's not that slow when you can flinch queue 3 moves
Leon has unflappable
warm haven
Yeah but he has PB so even without status he deals full damage
fading walrus
Which means bianca can't do the funnyā¢
warm haven
also, bianca has it too
stable tundra
bianco
fading walrus
Also, I guess the problem is lack of damage because of wide awake
low coral
weird, N counters leon really well
Leon has always been his worst matchup
low coral
Iirc, it was the only one I never did with him
fading walrus
If Leon didn't have sleep AoE he'd be much easier
dim lance
if you run a different support it's easy but
snow spruce
leon needs constant WZT
fading walrus
leon needs constant WZT
So does gio
warm haven
yeah
fading walrus
Leon needs a full wide awake team
Mina syncs every odd cycle
And can't get stagger cheesed
dim lance
that's worse for WTZ
issue is less so clearing Leon
more than doing it with a comp that clears everything
which is what that paradigm is
he also mentioned struggling with Thorton
warm haven
yeah
dim lance
but that's because well, obviously
full physical attack
I think more amazingly we get to see Bianca do shit, lol
warm haven
but i find it weird that's bianca of all things
snow spruce
sadly Nemona will end this and 95% of other all UB comps
warm haven
yeah terrain changing is a dirty move from dena
dim lance
I mean, it was bound to happen eventually
snow spruce
it should have been a zone, not terrain
snow spruce
terrain is so bad and Nemona has too much buffs from terrain
warm haven
I mean, it was bound to happen eventually
argenta and leon already asked for that
but more balanced
fading walrus
but i find it weird that's bianca of all things
I personally always thought she had potential, it's just that I can't be bothered to try giga complex clears that require 2-3 staggering 4 chains
dim lance
argenta and leon already asked for that
well, argenta you can afford to leave it up
snow spruce
they are bruteforceable and 1 of 3 weathers is easier to do than 1 of 2 terrains
dim lance
and Leon doens't mandate terrain or weather
we have weather mandated stages
now it's just the other end
eventually it'll mandate non weather
or terrain
fading walrus
I just used her for cheaper clears for easier stages, like darach, Palmer or Giovanni
snow spruce
if they later make an UB where you mandatory have to overwrite a psychic or grass terrain then lol
Should also release a busted defog pair then
a pure tech anti-gimmick kit like BT leon, but with defog
fading walrus
Thing is, defog or an ability like ASteven one is very...specific and doesn't inherently sell a kit
warm haven
Eventually there's gonna be a team so strong that dont care about gimmicks
snow spruce
Thing is, defog or an ability like ASteven one is very...specific and doesn't in...
just put it on a unit thats at least decent even without that part of the kit (defog/weather wipe)
and make it a pokefair
would pull
warm haven
just wait until iron treads with Steel Roller
fading walrus
That sounds fine
snow spruce
just wait until iron treads with Steel Roller <:TabithaHehe:998042781375275158>
hmm, that would be steel, so synergy with ASS
just give him a max guard and repeatable AoE para/burn, then we're talking
hearty cedar
That comp wouldn't work against argenta who needs 2 rebuffs
snow spruce
SS Mina has confusion, technically
it counts as a negative status change
snow spruce
chance at confusion*
hearty cedar
Darach is easy
Same with lucy
Evelyn should be fine
Only Argenta and Leon may stop that team comp
fading walrus
Only Argenta and Leon may stop that team comp
I mean argenta still takes years to take down mina
hearty cedar
True
That comp would need some incredible luck on freeze shock and sync turns
I think they can do leon ub
snow spruce
but you cant win against triple def/spdef on Argenta
so you need to get the 50% confusion roll on Minas Draining Kiss: Flabbergast 4 every turn, after the cleanses the first rebuffs
thats a lot of turns
hearty cedar
Yeah
snow spruce
PB doesnt counter x3 defences
hearty cedar
Of course using another support like steven should make it easier
snow spruce
and on top of that - you still spend ~3 turns with Argentas rain until it runs out, after each rain dance use
hearty cedar
But that specific comp ain't clearing argenta easily
paper mural
Tanking like...4? Moves after max move
It's actually quite common in their channel. Off-type teams if just lack enough sync acceleration to do exactly 1 more sync to beat Palmer they use this way to cheat.
Another impressive team which use this strat is SS Mina + S Gardenia + SC Irida.
lusty moat
I don't understand the skill gear can u help me with it
mental jasper
I don't understand the skill gear can u help me with it
Have you read #1147355613198815352 yet?
neat needle
Can any1 explain to me why canāt I beat Palmer UB
I have all the arcs but I donāt think theyāll help
I have Dojo Gloria too
twin warren
could have gotten 25 but crab survived with 1hp not going for that again
hearty cedar
Can any1 explain to me why canāt I beat Palmer UB
You are probably not sync ramping. You need to spam sprint ex or head starts
neat needle
You are probably not sync ramping. You need to spam sprint ex or head starts
I have head start on Rosa
hearty cedar
Turn denials with rei help as well. You can get them by using his bmove trying to kill sides when the sides are using the move
Your roster should be able to wipe the floor with palmer ub
neat needle
Turn denials with rei help as well. You can get them by using his bmove trying t...
Should I keep stacking the physical dmg up till his buddy move?
hearty cedar
That's preferable, yes
fast pendant
Why didn't you click move gauge boost for the final sync countdown
neat needle
Why didn't you click move gauge boost for the final sync countdown
Why would I?
fading walrus
To sync a turn earlier
Also you should focus on fighting rebuffing before unleashing Rei's moves
neat needle
Also you should focus on fighting rebuffing before unleashing Rei's moves
Ohhhh
fast pendant
Do the units have ex role, can you give the whole info?
snow spruce
just got MR in my rally, what a stupid fight
a million buffs and a million status cleanses - NC Blue couldnt really keep up every turn even with HE2. And thats before you remember he is weak to Ice
I actually think Ice team + NC blue may not be able to clear it. All ice teams will probably struggle a lot
The Arc Duo + Mix red team should be ok maybe, as long as toxic RNG is good.
the mini-potions will help too
stable storm
just got MR in my rally, what a stupid fight
a million buffs and a million statu...
hopefully chase can keep up
he has he9 tshock and paras on getting hit
rich heron
I fought MR in BR
It was difficult
I couldn't use Geeta coz there was no role for her
dark dust
I better see you in #gacha-and-flex bestie
snow spruce
hopefully chase can keep up
Chase issue wont be paralyzing, but just surviving
gilded finch
That's a good result
I guess i just did a 3rd one and that was dead lol
I mean i just guess its a good thing that im not going out of my way for any new pairs this month or else i would have been mad rn lmaoooo
dim lance
mina/SS N/NC Bianca is an official full clear for all UBs
tosakinto just posted a screenshot confirming it
snow spruce
That just confirms to me that SS Wina is > NC Blue, in (current) UBs
snow spruce
WIll he post videos for all 11 clears ? I presume yes
Would rather have videos when I update the doc
warm haven
SS N the goat of physical ice 
final yacht
not like there's much competition
ss silver and then hala lol
oh pal candice too but eh
snow spruce
Seasonal Leon was physical Ice
but no one remembers he exists
and seasonal Nessa was physical Ice too IIRC
fading walrus
but no one remembers he exists
I do
His DPS is real but his grid is really, REALLY awful
lunar sedge
Seasonal Leon was physical Ice
Hail multiplier or freeze multiplier which way Undefeated Champion man
fading walrus
Like, one of the worst grids ever
The base is so good on paper
I have him 3/5 out of principle
But 3/5 feels like
10% stronger than 1/5
And that's it
lunar sedge
Ramming speed is really just the only thing worth a damn there
low coral
Is the antitoxin-less Lucy clear
Why would you run Antitoxin with team status immunity 
final yacht
and seasonal Nessa was physical Ice too IIRC
both of these don't exist
still funny to me that h leon is the pair that has the highest odds of freeze (without being 100% like red lol)
true lagoon
still funny to me that h leon is the pair that has the highest odds of freeze (w...
*aoe
highest odds of freeze goes to grusha
warm haven
HLeon had potential but lol freeze multipliers
final yacht
oh yeah double super interference 
fading walrus
Why would you run Antitoxin with team status immunity <:LucasFLOOSHED:7784753601...
Idk ask him
true lagoon
oh yeah double super interference <:RosaThink:815426654955503627>
hes 44% which isnt far off from 50%
still by far the best aoe freeze we have
warm haven
it's still worse than flinch
snow spruce
doing Lucy quick without anti-toxin is perfectly viable tbh
syncs/TM etc. dont proc the poison damage
fading walrus
doing Lucy quick without anti-toxin is perfectly viable tbh
It's just funny to me because it's just making the easiest UB harder for no reason
warm haven
Yeah they prob got poisoned with the second sludge wave
so it would be better to directly end the battle instead of syncing with mina
jade marsh
still by far the best aoe freeze we have
pmuch, though when Shauntal releases we'll have a 2 time AoE guarantee
hearty cedar
mina/SS N/NC Bianca is an official full clear for all UBs
I was legit surprised when I saw the argenta clear
MR ub should be easy for that ss N team
warm haven
yes but they'll get filtered by nemona
final yacht
wouldn't be if mina did set misty terrain.......
onyx cedar
then that team would suffer in a stage that focus on a zone
final yacht
just make her set fairy zone when she sets misty terrain
warm haven
wouldn't be if mina did set misty terrain.......
Zones robbed her of that lol
snow spruce
you will end up needing all 3 of weather/terrain/zone on 1 team to have a chance at doing all UBs
snow spruce
MR ub should be easy for that ss N team
I actually wonder, because you still need status, PB isnt enough.
SS N can set status, but only once every 2 turns, only Single-target and only when using Freeze Shock (not the B-move)
its far from ideal for MR, but maybe can still work
neat needle
Do the units have ex role, can you give the whole info?
On Rosa and Rei
stable storm
mina/SS N/NC Bianca is an official full clear for all UBs
@hearty cedar We get to rejoice an all ub clear N team till next month
snow spruce
I do all my time trials on auto
hearty cedar
I actually wonder, because you still need status, PB isnt enough.
SS N can set s...
Both N and Bianca has p.blows as well
hearty cedar
<@650597334576791564> We get to rejoice an all ub clear N team till next month
Till next month where nemona ruins it
snow spruce
p.blows doesnt help much. its triple defences without status
stable storm
Nemo is gonna destroy so much
snow spruce
i did MR in rallly with 400% boost with nc blue and it was still a pain with status.
stable storm
mr already will kill half the teams
hearty cedar
Nemona gonna shift ubs from weather wars to terrain wars
Can the ice team win MR with chase?
snow spruce
they can theoretically do it with all 3 (SSA Cynthia has 50% paralysis on attack), but it will be hard
stable storm
nemo is gonna be the biggest hurdle
snow spruce
nemo is not doable for ice teams with those 3 supports
snow spruce
There are 2 teams right now that have a shot at 13/13 UBs
-Arc Cynthia - Arc Steven - Mix Red
-Arc Cynthia - NC Blue - Avery
I guess maybe Arc Cynthia - NC Blue - Mix Red too
warm haven
Now you see why those are the two best supports
pearl pewter
so true but what does Avery do
formal matrix
Terrain wars will come and watch holiday Whitney be the only one to deal with all terrains
snow spruce
Now you see why those are the two best supports <:TabithaHehe:998042781375275158...
they are kinda lucky that AS Cynthia brings her own weather, so they dont need to have WZT
SS Mina brings her own weather and that's really important for several all UB comps, just not for Cynthia, who happens to be the strongest right now
also tbf we already know that Elaine is capable of replacing Steven on at least 1 Cynthia UB team
maybe Arc Cynthia - Elaine - Mix Red is also doable for 13/13..
formal matrix
If arc Cynthia + nc blue + mix red will work, does it mean, Greta will also work?
snow spruce
In theory yes. Arc Cynthia - NC Blue - Avery/Greta/some other terrain or defog user can all work
But any AS Cynthia - NC blue comp would first need to do the first 11 UBs, especially Nita, which gets a lot harder when you replace steven with blue
Its already been over a month and no one has seriously tried to do even one 11/11 clear with Cynthia + Blue
instead there were almost 10 Arc Duo clears
Maybe now that MR requires mandatory status - there will be more Cynthia-Blue UB clears (but thats assuming that Blue can actually survive MR in general)
formal matrix
Arc Cynthia and blue are both weak to ice
They will probably both be cooked by MR, if there is not enough healing
snow spruce
oh yeah true.
MR is probably the biggest block for any Cynthia+Blue team, might even be undoable without using some other support to tank (which would then prevent you from doing the other 12 UBs)
formal matrix
One might try whether NC Blue + arc Cynthia + the third can do thorton first, because MR hits harder than Thorton
snow spruce
Thorton is stunnable and buffs less. He is definitely doable for them, especially with a special dps as 3-rd (or extra heals for sustain)
but yeah MR is worse than him
its a good thing Mix red has SpAtk debuffs too, it will probably be required to keep MR in the negative debuffs and have Cynthia survive the sync
and mini potions to top her off
warm haven
Blue might be weak to ice but Cynthia can end the fight faster so it shouldn't be a problem
The ice team was able to presync most UBs and Cynthia is stronger
snow spruce
Cynthia is not necessarily better at pre-syncing UBs than Ice team+Chase, in fact she is probably worse. They have lots of sync accel and extra damage from irida and kanto circle
especially when her 3-rd pair is anti-gimmick that usually does very little or no damage
she just can allow that 3-rd pair, while ice team cannot
also blue has 0 sync accel, there is no chance that he and Cynthia can pre-sync MR, especially when he isnt stunnable and constantly cleanses status
maybe they can pre-sync Thorton with some good stuns + sides turn steals + a special damage dps, but not MR
formal matrix
Well, no arc Cynthia + nc blue is in the UB document now. I donāt know if there is a clear
snow spruce
No one in their right mind would use Blue + Cynthia on Thorton (double ice weak) unless its required for an 11/11 clear, which no one tried to do so far
Anyway MR might kill the chance of a 13/13 clear with Blue+Cynthia. double weakness is rough on an already hard UB like MR
even something like this (2 pairs sharing same type weakness) is a factor in doing all UBs
at least AS Steven, AS Cynthia and Mix red all have a different weakness
boreal abyss
And that SS N isn't as bad as everyone makes him look <:GladionSip:1208936502399...
can't call him anymore the trash can of wheels, he is the arc trash can now, blessed by strike role 
jokes aside, huge accomplishment, happy for B!Kyurem ā£ļø
low coral
Prob some of the most buffed units over time
boreal abyss
he may get more very soon too from next month
so ig we are safe to say that he isn't done yet
fading walrus
he may get more very soon too from next month
Arc N is gonna be Anni version imo, not the SS one
Of not kyu-W directly
boreal abyss
i was just memeing on how i defined him back in the days
snow spruce
anni N cannot get an arc because Fire would go to Red or leon
and also Unovas first arc will be bug arc Alder
boreal abyss
haha
fading walrus
anni N cannot get an arc because Fire would go to Red or leon
and also Unovas fi...
I surely hope so
Leon deserves a true alt arc pair
But zard is zard
snow spruce
SS Mina has 3 different 11/11 teams now 
spark idol
anni N cannot get an arc because Fire would go to Red or leon
and also Unovas fi...
Rooting for red to get it
- Leon zard is master and red is normal fair
- I like red more
stable storm
SS Mina has 3 different 11/11 teams now <:PrycePain:971377771987206154>
pov you are the best support at surviving attacks and have a ton of healing and have rain:
stable storm
Rooting for red to get it
1. Leon zard is master and red is normal fair
2. I l...
red has more alts than Leon and Leon is worse than red rn
spark idol
red has more alts than Leon and Leon is worse than red rn
Red also allows for blue and blastoise arc with maybe leaf
stable storm
Red also allows for blue and blastoise arc with maybe leaf
do you know how many alts red and blue have...?
spark idol
Leon ain't exactly lacking in alts either
Red and blue are older than Leon
And also I'd assume that they would get more pulls than Leon if Dena wants to go for a money angle
stable storm
Leon ain't exactly lacking in alts either
blue has the highest number of alts in the game....
stable storm
no one really wants more kantrio alts....
spark idol
My boi blue needs his full team in the game
Hoping for red and espeon next month eevee month š
They ain't doin red without doin blue so blue and umbreon incoming
gentle wharf
Kukui today and I have no idea what my team is haha
Hoping Geeta does something cool
mental jasper
masked royal ub?
stable tundra
I donāt know what you are talking about <:TabithaHehe:998042781375275158>
Yeah that caused me confused
Everyone knows Chuck is the true identity
stable storm
https://youtu.be/d3Rrl_lYD8s?si=qOHDicGB9dNVCwbF
@snow spruce vids
stable storm
ya all ready for masked royale ub?
mental jasper
yeah Iām ready to not do it until the 23rd
rich heron
And i forgot what Kukui needs
Poison
Atk, sp atk and spd low
You need constant poison unit
Which Geeta
gentle wharf
3/5 Oleana provides all that right?
dark dust
Geeta + Oleana stonks
gentle wharf
Oh constant is Geeta yeah
rich heron
Isn't allister kinda constant too?
stable tundra
As someone suffered from his stage in rally, Geeta is pretty much required
dark dust
Need constant AoE
stable tundra
He cures status multiple times
dark dust
Allister won't cut it
rich heron
As someone suffered from his stage in rally, Geeta is pretty much required
Same
Geeta is best for this
stable tundra
If only C Elesa had spread debuff instead of single target
gentle wharf
Oh damn lol
valid raft
I remember doing Nemona
rich heron
C elesa has contact paralyze to
valid raft
I had the counters for her, but no boost just means my ass is wrecked
gentle wharf
Oh forgot Oleana at base already debuffs the stats needed haha
rich heron
With crit next
valid raft
Oh forgot Oleana at base already debuffs the stats needed haha
I literally said before it's made for Geeta and Oleana
gentle wharf
Hmm, just need to pick the right tank
gentle wharf
Yeah i thought it was at 3/5 that she debuffs speed haha
rich heron
He is weak to ice
valid raft
Geeta being the constant status inflicter and Oleana countering the stats
valid raft
He is weak to ice
He handled Thorton
gentle wharf
Thought venom drench was just attack and special attack
stable storm
As someone suffered from his stage in rally, Geeta is pretty much required
chase can keep up with the status req
rich heron
Can work
stable storm
I think MR is powerful than thorton
almost a thousand more attack yes
rich heron
Other than nc blue
Who is useful
stable storm
with higher bp and multipliers
rich heron
Ye
stable storm
arcven ofc
rich heron
No Arven lol
stable storm
arc Steven is the best support for mr
rich heron
Arc steven shafted me
gentle wharf
Crit Nextā¦ do the sides do it AoE or just the tank?
stable storm
I call Arc Steven arcven
rich heron
Oh
gentle wharf
That is confusing haha
stable storm
Crit Nextā¦ do the sides do it AoE or just the tank?
mid
valid raft
Nemona, IMO, is the first time it's made for a full team, being NC Rosa/SS Lana/Lear
gentle wharf
Oh lol
rich heron
Ig sides use Blizzard no?
gentle wharf
Was wondering if Bellelba can work
stable storm
sides hit hard yes
valid raft
All of them having some form of sync ramping and having massive amounts of AoE damage
stable storm
Was wondering if Bellelba can work
with oleana and geeta? yes
gentle wharf
Sweetness
valid raft
Lear's EXR is practically perfect for Nemona
stable storm
All of them having some form of sync ramping and having massive amounts of AoE d...
also nemo debuffs, wants rebuff and pt
valid raft
Yes
stable storm
Lear tm blocks nemo's debuffs
stable storm
Lear has strong enough aoe sync to kill sides
rich heron
Chase?
valid raft
Lear tm blocks nemo's debuffs
Doesn't NC Rosa already counter Nemona's debffs if 3/5?
rich heron
Opponent is special right
stable storm
I don't think she picks up both tiles
valid raft
Because, you know, Force Field and Stoic 9
stable storm
I don't think she can pick both?
rich heron
Rats can do it ig
stable storm
Opponent is special right
mixed but sync is special
rich heron
I have only two rats
stable storm
rats cook mr
rich heron
mixed but sync is special
Oh
stable storm
then get cooked by nemo
valid raft
Well, you'd need 4/5 NC Rosa for at least a Potion MPR
valid raft
stable storm
This is what I have on her
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/10102/64800?s=3&l=...
I will try this
stable tundra
chase can keep up with the status req
Okay but where debuffs
When you are using him with Oleana
stable storm
Okay but where debuffs
other 2 units can handle that
valid raft
There we go
stable tundra
other 2 units can handle that
Not for me
valid raft
It should be fine
stable tundra
I'm not too sure, maybe with an Uber support they can clear
valid raft
You have the necessary counters anyways
rich heron
Oh
valid raft
He is weak to ice
rich heron
Ye that's why
valid raft
But the debuffs should make up for it
rich heron
Will try
formal matrix
how quick does MR royale buff atk sp atk and spd?
Ask this because Iām thinking of using Janine
rich heron
It's aoe
stable storm
every side attack or tm iirc
rich heron
Janine can never
formal matrix
I beat Evelyn with arc Steven Geeta and Janine. So maybe MR too
rich heron
Use eggmon nidoran
formal matrix
rich heron
I beat Evelyn with arc Steven Geeta and Janine. So maybe MR too
Thwn maybe it will work
But I still have doubt abt it so
Just try
valid raft
how quick does MR royale buff atk sp atk and spd?
The sides buff stats depending on how many times they hit
For example, the left side has Blizzard. It hits all 3 on your side, then it buffs all 3 stats by 3 on their side
formal matrix
rich heron
Status condition remove on every tm when u need it everytime
stable storm
I beat Evelyn with arc Steven Geeta and Janine. So maybe MR too
should be doable
rich heron
Is meh
stable storm
they+1 every other turn and+2 on endure and sync
rich heron
Status removal on only tm right?
stable storm
For example, the left side has Blizzard. It hits all 3 on your side, then it buf...
wait it's hit?
valid raft
Status condition remove on every tm when u need it everytime
For non-Geeta havers, they'll either have to deal with RNG with AoE or use an ST status condition move
valid raft
wait it's hit?
Yes
rich heron
For non-Geeta havers, they'll either have to deal with RNG with AoE or use an ST...
Tru
formal matrix
But you might need to status all three together? Chase is too slow at that?
rich heron
Maybe nc blue can keep up
He helps in atk and spe atk low
stable storm
Lear and chase counter the gimmicks but idk if there's enough damage pr sustain
valid raft
Meganium has Petal Blizzard
Which means both sides can do +3 Atk./Sp. Atk./Speed every most of the time
You know what would've been worse?
stable storm
That's why it's specifically made for Oleana
fewer teams will clear than I thought
valid raft
If Meganium had Bullet Seed with No Quarter for +5 of those stats to the team 
stable storm
If Meganium had Bullet Seed with No Quarter for +5 of those stats to the team <:...
every primarina attack is +3
valid raft
Yes
valid raft
fewer teams will clear than I thought
SHilda time
stable storm
SHilda time
Sshilda or shilda?
rich heron
Shilda?
valid raft
Sshilda or shilda?
S. Hilda
gentle wharf
Summer Hilda? Huh. What does she do? Topsy Turvy?
stone scarab
Yeah
stable storm
Summer Hilda? Huh. What does she do? Topsy Turvy?
Yes
stone scarab
And she has protect, so that can help
stable storm
why are there so many Hilda alts
stone scarab
Theres only 4 bestie
gentle wharf
Not sure if 2 uses is enough but hey if it works it works
stone scarab
Not sure if 2 uses is enough but hey if it works it works
She can get 3, but yeah I get what you mean
stable storm
that's more than most other girl protags
stone scarab
Its below average actually
The only one with less is Kris iirc, every other one in the game is equal or higher
rich heron
Maybe you will die before topsy turvy
formal matrix
So Geeta + oleana cooks MR pretty easily
broken crag
does oleana need to be 3/5?
formal matrix
Mine is 3/5. dunno if less than 3/5 works or not
fringe stratus
Gonna have to try out mix red/lear/rosa later
fringe stratus
I dont think the team has enough sustain/dmg
rotund oasis
so needs spd drops hrm
valid raft
Almost 
hearty cedar
This ub is made for these 2
rotund oasis
hmm
valid raft
This ub is made for these 2
That much is extremely obvious
hearty cedar
Now, to try "difficult teams"
valid raft
Like mine
valid raft
I haven't beaten it yet
bitter lance
Can 1/5 oleana 3/5 geeta and 1/5 arc steven good enough for the new extreme battle ?
hearty cedar
Close tho, can they be flinched?
hearty cedar
Can 1/5 oleana 3/5 geeta and 1/5 arc steven good enough for the new extreme batt...
Yes
valid raft
Close tho, can they be flinched?
No
hearty cedar
Geeta offense is enough
rotund oasis
just need spd debuffers right?
valid raft
Geeta is meant to be the constant status condition applier
hearty cedar
just need spd debuffers right?
Max move -> venom drench and ocassional gunk shots. Enough for oleana
rotund oasis
Max move -> venom drench and ocassional gunk shots. Enough for oleana
no oleana so... i need to consider my options
hearty cedar
My oleana is 2/5 so I used geeta's offense
hearty cedar
no oleana so... i need to consider my options
Atk, sp.atk, speed....SS N debuffs all 3 of these stats too
valid raft
Now, do I put Vigilance on Cheren or retain CS2?
valid raft
Atk, sp.atk, speed....SS N debuffs all 3 of these stats too <:WEEZing:7320443685...
And also inflicts status condition with Freeze Shock
stable storm
so how's the ub for those without oleana and geeta
valid raft
I candied my NC Cheren, no regrets tho
stable storm
Gonna have to try out mix red/lear/rosa later
I tried chase Lear rosa and got to 40% before mr used the second sync. I was out of snatches and potions
rotund oasis
Atk, sp.atk, speed....SS N debuffs all 3 of these stats too <:WEEZing:7320443685...
hoenstly. i'
i'm thinking of running uh a venom drencher + geeta + ball guy
stable storm
@valid raft did you do it yet
valid raft
Do what?
stable storm
i'm thinking of running uh a venom drencher + geeta + ball guy
will there be enough sustain
valid raft
Almost
hearty cedar
i'm thinking of running uh a venom drencher + geeta + ball guy
Oh that could work bcuz of clear smog
stable storm
I genuinely think Lear chase rosa could clear
hearty cedar
will there be enough sustain
Ball guy is good at sustain iirc
stable storm
I just need to get 4 snatch and potion mprs
rain sorrel
DANG IT
hearty cedar
Steel team may beat MR with 4/5 arc steven
stable storm
is your Geeta not caked
stable storm
Steel team may beat MR with 4/5 arc steven
without status no chance
you can't beat mr without status
rain sorrel
She is. But my endure got wiped because I procced the 70% into his Sp Atk
stable storm
oof
hearty cedar
Ss roxie may need 4/5 for this ub to pick up venomous all
chilly dawn
Ok so... How many decent supports are there that drop speed?
stable storm
Chase has almost no breathing room
hearty cedar
Roxie destroys this ub if she has consistent status. They really want us to get 4/5 for her
stable storm
Ok so... How many decent supports are there that drop speed?
oleana
hearty cedar
Support
stable storm
Technically she has support exr
hearty cedar
Ok so... How many decent supports are there that drop speed?
I cant even think of one
chilly dawn
I'm thinking NC Leaf/Geeta for the core but I need speed drops, and there's no oleana in the picture so double drop venom drench is out of it
And I doubt I can get away with bringing like, Janine
stable storm
Chase sillie and SS Lear failed badly so I only have a chance with Chase Lear and Rosa
hearty cedar
If you can kill the stage fast then you wouldnt need speed debuffs
rain sorrel
And I doubt I can get away with bringing like, Janine
I got close with Geeta and Janine actually
stable storm
Geeta janine and a good sustainer should be enough
chilly dawn
Geeta/Janine/SS Morty maybe?
rain sorrel
The problem is racking up enough Venom Drenches to avoid positive stats before he attacks
hearty cedar
I'm thinking NC Leaf/Geeta for the core but I need speed drops, and there's no o...
Geeta also has debuffs with her lucky skill and ruthless toxin 9 from the grid. Maybe you could get lucky with speed debuffs
stable storm
Geeta/Janine/SS Morty maybe?
should be enough just make sure to not proc endure into x special attack all
chilly dawn
I assume the speed debuffs are required to null his sync buff?
stable storm
otherwise he has a 50% boost yes
chilly dawn
Ok good to know
rich heron
We have to kill him before second sync?
stable storm
some comps probably survive second sync but most comps must yes
what are the off type clears so far
formal matrix
Mask royale asked for sp atk atk and speed debuff, where is the SSN clear?
rich heron
I have 3/5 striker ex role
boreal abyss
NC Bianca has piercing blows too right?
rain sorrel
Piercing Blows doesn't bypass the 3x defense without status condition
inner heath
Need some luck with debuff. 1/5 steven, 3/5 geeta and serena, all caked
alpine quiver
Good job, team
