#Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles
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That could probably clear it yeah. Just make sure to keep the sp atk debuffs in check
Which shouldnt be a problem with both wally and gladion
If you cant clear it within 2 enemy syncs just slap vigilance on everyone
just did this w 1/5 steven grid
...
I got this much
What move did she use that wiped? It wasnt sync was it?
And make sure you’re syncing with wally
Wallys sync move is more damaging than gladion
Seeing it unused is sad
Also ncblue prob better
Leaf didn't crit the most important sync :(
hey for submissions NC Blue had his EXR but I didn’t really need it as I didn’t use the defense down on sync tile, should I still include it on my submission?
He does not have EXR
thanks, order of syncs?
still good to have mega for team triage tank
Is your steven EXR?
Oh fuck I forgot that the passive changes
Then the order should be Steven > Leaf > Gladion > Gladion
And run this Gladion grid
Make sure to have the bMove condition unlocked so you can consume the SEUN with it, that means that you have to use Gladion's bMove after 2nd sync
i dont have NC Blue
If your Steven is EXR you should clear this shit without any effort
And i dont know if 4th anni will ever be reran at this point
yes
ye all my anni 5 are
Probs December or February
Then yeah it's a free one
Okay I have a recorded video of what you gotta do to win this shit
It's just that it might actually not be possible without Steven's EXR, cause mid lives at 4% and then kills Leaf and Gladion
I could try slapping vigilance on them, but you should be fine if you have all 3 EXR'D
I have both of those. Except leaf…
The only 4th anni I got was Red off Pity, then Aura Cynthia and SS Red on rerun
I guess the gacha gods felt bad so for 5th they gave me all 3
What other nukers do you have? she might be replaceable
You mainly need her leer but she seems replaceable
What sync pairs should I be looking for in particular?
AoE Debuffers
Hm
I have Geeta
2/5
Oh mb
That was someone else
Nah she's not gonna cut it
Any specifically that I should want?
I have SSARCCynthia but idk if that’ll do anything
Send a ss of your techs
Here’s literally all my techs
can yu share it?
Give SS Wally a try
Yes it's uploading
I have
I die after 2nd sync
@humble gyro Mid should die to that leaf sync
And proper flinch timing can help, I just suck at this and 30% is miserable
1st time was all Steven
2nd time was Steven Wally then spam Wally
3rd time was same then I spammed Steven after I used Wally
Gladion can hit really hard with his bMove, and at 3/5 he refreshes it after sync and gets a SEUN from super syncer
which can be used with another bMove

I’m so cooked
That's prob the thing that is holding you back, but you don't have to rush it
It's a permanent battle anyway
I have 15/20 strike tokens
Pretty close, but you may have someone else who wants the candy more than Gladion does, don't candy necessarily for that
I have a better gear now, I'll try again
here’s my 1/5 arc suit steven clear if anyone wants to see it 🤪
https://youtu.be/-2SP8lw6sZ8?si=r84NYKFn8kV6KrEj
Units used:
3/5 6EX SS Gladion
1/5 6EXR Arc Suit Steven (3/5 but I used the 1/5 grid)
3/5 6*EX Blue + 2 Energy (Used it to get Synchro Healing but you honestly don’t need it)
Sync Grids down below (remove the dash between the https and the slashes as YT won’t let me put links in for some reason
https: - //ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=009004...
ill try
https://youtu.be/Cru4oASo_bU?si=Rten5CK2z3qzVT64
I really really choked at the end and started clicking random buttons but it worked
A link to the team on PomaTools:
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=009004037600&s0=1&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=17063000&t0=4444&g0=AAECAwQFCgsMDQ4UFRYXGB4fICEiKCkqKyw&v1=001701014600&s1=3&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=21010101&t1=44444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFCw0ODyMlKSorLC0u&v2=011901080100&s2=3&l2=150&r2=6&p2=0&a2=21010101&t2=44444&x2=true&g2=AAECAwQFBgkMDg8QER...
id be more surprised if it didnt work
You use leer way too much
Mainly wanted to reserve sun so Gladion gets to use his bMove under it
Cause I was using SS Nemona's feather on a gear
Nice haha
Also Irida had Unbending this whole time 
Evelyn got hands tho. Also I got a better clear than this and that paralyze is the literal definition of suffering from success
trying to advise someone with the challenge those blessed by a deity stage
would 1/5 sst red + 1/5 nc blue + darach work
if darach is gridded
It can, but SST Red is weak to ground
oof right forgot that bit
And you have no multipliers too
hm they have 2/5 rei
better than sst?
brings the debuffs for def at least and has the b move...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1unwNqwt18yroGqlEpdcnvYBhpn7KdX-ZCD53vqiufzg/edit?gid=1190611733#gid=1190611733
updated. All teams cleared Evelyn, except Irida-Red-Chase (so far)
Made me wish Evelyn had Piercing Blows
Pretty easy for that as well
added
Evelyn fully cleared
would runerigus - arc cyn- arc steven need 4/5 metagross vs evelyn?
It shouldn't
You only debuff 2 stats at best without 4/5 AS Steven
Actually 3
But only 2 later on
you have to get rid of that +2 Spatk, or else bye bye tank
yeah thats what im saying without spa debuffs surely you just die
Yeah unless your name is Initial Guard
Even if Steven had 4/5, he'd still suffer from Evelyn's special damage
if you have no other source of SpAtk debuffs then yes, Arc Steven will need 4/5 I think
I dunno how you even survvie first sync otherwise
Actually, your team will die
Even if AS Steven is 4/5, the team might still die
it wont
Was Steven close to dying?
i forogt how to beat kento top tier team
went a different route with cynthia, steven, 1/5 nc leaf with vigiliance on damage dealers to survive 2nd sync. was pretty easy, just reset for flinch on first move
OFC it was easy, you had NC Leaf
lol i tried earlier without vigiliance for like 40 minutes i never got under like 20% left
it was like a palmer situation - get to a certain point - die
how about your supports?
with NC Leaf you don't need to worry about enemies' def buffing
ok but how can i get better damage? Def debuff is the issue
so i have to exchange skyla?
yes, you want to look for an enhancer to help boost Silver's damage
he is only 1/5
so damn close with 1/5 nemona
i swear i feel like all i need is more potion mpr's from Steven
it's so do-able
completely forgot penny's tm gives aoe gradual healing lmao
apparently i was right
Is there any F2P teams to clear the extreme regional teams?
1500 gems is a lot to miss 😭
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG2rDYJ5u-k
This guy uploaded all f2p/genpool for all 5 ebes.
You should also
to see the gimmicks so you can swap some units out by the better limited units you have for an easier clear.
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perfect, thank u
My Gordie is only 2/5. Should I move candy him?
He's a genpool unit so don't.
But at 2/5, can he do enough dmg with his sync?
No. You either pray on getting him in ticket pool before the event gone or use your best off type stirker in that space.
I guess my clear will go to miscellaneous clears then
How hard is Evelyn?
there are 2 Steven, Silver, Cynthia clears,
one should prob be set to Misc
huh, i managed to beat evelyn ub with same team, but no EXR for ss nemo, and 60e o.o
Depends on your team
Even if you fully debuff her and fully buff your defensive stats, some of her moves still hits pretty hard
It's crazy what teams Steven can carry
same tho her being weak to fairy makes her a joke against a top comp which is unfortunate for her
she's between darach and thorton to me
Even the best fairy team requires you to have high investments
doesn't every ub team require 3/5 on the units excluding the weak 3?
to be fair '24 lillie really fills in his missing stuff too
especially for evelyn
I love her
tbf anni lillie is 2023 average pf level
eh, not really
I cleared 6 UBs with that duo
ss nemona can work 1/5, and i bet ssgladion can also work fine with 3/5 sswally and ss mina
ss mina can be 1/5 probably
Is there a clear with the best fairy team all at 1/5?
nah, because wally needs 3/5 to nuke and debuff well
this team is specially good with Marnie instead of mc, since you get a lot of zone time, tech nuke and more atk debuffs
but you can clear without all 3/5
Told you it needs some investments even if it's just one unit
I didn't say all of them
for sure, I just used MC because he is kinda weak
can't wait for SS Lear to really use steel teams
One has a 4 EX R +8E Steven and a 2 EX Cynthia
The other has a 4 EX R Steven and a 3 EX R +6E Cynthia
Neither of them is strictly a lower investment so both stay
If the 1st had a 4 EX R 0e Steven, the 2nd would move to misc
Has anyone gotten to 3rd sync with Evelyn?
How hard does she hit even if she has -6 offensive stats and your team has +6 defensive stats?
wouldn't the investment be primarily by dupe/candy amount
I agree, but it feels inherently easier to afford sync orbs than candies
it's how i always did it
Mael are you responsible to that UB clear doc?
im not maintaining it anymore it's someone else
Oh
I submitted a clear but I can't see it on the submitted clears section
Nor on the actual page for Evelyn's clear
but i saw you said your clear was denied, main reason for that would be that you filled the pomatools grid incorrectly
or maybe it's in misc
It's not in misc

And the information was entered correctly, that's weird
did you click on submit/send/whatever the button is on google forms 
maybe the video was wrong somehow
sorry i ate it
I liked going Selene as well, did a video on it
Although most of the work is on Lillie + Steven
I want to post quite a few clears for multiple battles here, but I haven't had too much time to play the game (and even on my free time I've prioritizing going outside or talking with friends) - particularly on using Arc Lance with Zerena, although some others as well outside of the usual Ice clears. SC Selene is not a kit I like, but I like Sel...
oh finally you have 4/5 Steven
For two days now, yeah
I used him to make SS N beat Anabel as well
But it was pretty miserable
I can imagine
Also made it easier to use Lance + Zerena to beat Argenta under rain
You can use that team to clear?
I only have 2/5 arc Steven
That's really the only problem
And no potion mpr involved
Does Latios hit with special or mostly physical moves?
Bruh I can't abuse sterner stuff
mostly
You mean with the same team I showed above?
Slot in someone serious instead of MC Solgaleo
I don't have any steel dmg dealers except solgaleo and rose
What does Evelyn need again?
I mean you don't need a third steel damage dealer for the duo, but someone who can debuff preferably
Just debuffs?
Idk if ss hilda 1/5 nc leaf 3/5 would work with arc steven
That's what I did with Thorton and the clear was almost effortless
I don't even know how she survived turn 1 blizzard from Thorton, a sync, and another blizzard
At 1/5
3/5 won't change her tankiness
finally
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we get to see some bug shit
noland doing 0 damage after 7 sync buffs 
Latios really is the Pokémon Masters clown
Took very, very good luck to even make it that far. But, with a bit more optimization of Wally's grid, I think it could work
With the right units, it's easy
If Evelyn had more HP, then she would've been a forced to be reckoned with
She's fine with the current HP, I would say she's a decently balanced UB
A bit disappointing for a Anniversary one, but they probably didn't want to scare returning players too much
Surprising that a Hyper Beam deletes 25% or more of your tank's HP even with -6 Sp. Atk. and +6 Sp. Def.
the opening luster purge is probably the scariest thing in her fight
Besides that, you probably don't want to go more than 2 sync deep on her
No one can tank Evelyn if she retains her Sp. Atk. buffs right?
Like the team just straight dies even with +6 Sp. Def.?
Nah, I'm wrong
What will make Evelyn more intimidating is if her attacks were special 4-gauge moves
Hyper beam?
I still haven’t done any UB
Well, it makes sense Hyper Beam does that much even debuffed
200+ BP with 4000+ SpA
Evelyn at -6 SpA has a higher stat than most stages at +0
Shows how impactful master passive stacking can be
Bug is still awful 
For the damage reduction I mean
Besides that
It's already a rarity for the main enemy to have hyper beam
Is Stored Power more intimidating than a 4-gauge move?
Hyper beam is base 237 BP
Iirc stored power at max is like 180?
Sorry, Base hyper beam is 223
156 since they're 1/5
Hyper Beam or Stored Power?
Stored Power
Max I assume
Yes
I mean you won't have a bigger enemy BP move than Hyper beam/Giga impact
Even though it's a bit disappointing for a UB, I'm happy with the fact you can use a few more units
Explosion
Fairy units have a lot of Sp. Atk. debuffing, so it's not surprising
Let's see you off-type it
Possible gimmick for a future fight
I'm genuinely considering it
I just like this mode a lot :)
Ice trio still makes it
To me Latios is Thorton level. Prob slightly easier but not far away.
Most likely will, at post-sync
Unless they attach passives if screens are up too
With Sync Wall
Maybe Vigilance
The fight gimmick or gimmicks must be something that on-type pairs deal with it
That would make for an awful UB
Since Vigilance is not conditional
DeNA has yet to make a UB that revolves around being hella bulky
1 defog is on dragon, but they're 100% not make UB for a week genpool unit.
Anabel is the only relevant UB that revolves around being bulky
Eh not really
Well, almost every UB requires you to be bulky naturally
Most ubs want a fair amount of bulk or you ger shredded
Just out of the power level
No, I mean enemy being bulky
Giovanni is very bulky too
How much bulkier than 900k hp do you want lol
Like Fluid Fortification on Anabel and Evelyn
Vigilance and/or crit shield + Double Screens
It doesn't make for a very exciting stage to play either
Stages that don't give you different ways of beating are the worst
They're just unfun
The issue about this is there really isn't a strong defog limited unit for them to sell, at least for now.
Even if there is, that's very niche
Yeah, you're not asking for a specific effect, you're asking for a specific move
Leon having gmax for instance has a niche use for geeta removing dmg field
But that's not ultra restrictive you can live without removing
So far, the UBs right now have been focusing on negative status change, massive debuffing and brute forcing
I don't think brute forcing is the word
kukui's time to shine
Maybe it can be some passive blocking crits if only the enemy side has shields, so you could either break them or put your own to turn off the gimmick
There are more focused on wtz than status change
Brute forcing is trying to break without dealing with gimmicks, which is not really something that happens often
They'll eventually also add UBs revolving around making the enemies receive extremely minimal damage
Isn't it only Leon that calls for status?
That's kinda Fluid Fortification right?
Status change are rebuff centric
Easily countered by debuffers, which a lot of players will have
Especially limited ones
Oh oh right, I always confuse status change with status condition
Well yeah if it's not countered you cannot win
But there are a lot of dmg reduction ubs
Extremely minimal damage like what I said, Vigilance + Double Screens for example. No things like Fluid Fortification
nah but triple screans UB with small atk/sp.atk just to be focused on poison stalling 
Leon, Darach, Giovanni, Nita
The field ones like Darach also block you from doing damage with increased defenses and healing
Well, we haven't gotten a poison-weak stage yet so maybe that's possible
It'll for sure want poison
The way I see it what you're looking for already exists, you're just not giving a condition to win
they will prob have like 1m hp and lessen poison 8 
Which any stage needs
Gio is so hard
I candied my akari to 3/5 and I’m like 6% damage off from kill
Reeeee
Would the win condition be to stack 9+ sync buffs and tanking enough enemy sync moves ?
You'll prefer geeta's dmg is no use bc the ub designed for poison ask for stall?
It just sounds not profitable tbh.
Just try to beat Anabel without removing weather and you have what you want
That's kinda SS Nemona
It's not
Also question
What is more worthwhile investment
5/5 Cynthia 1/5 Steven or 3/5 Steven with 3/5 Cynthia
Arcs
2nd, but 4/5 Steven
Didn't Arc Cynthia beat Nita?
No sun team has slapped Annabel
Nita is not Anabel
It's pretty much impossible
We need an arc fire unit for that
Also why are we trying impossible things?
Well, TBF, Arc Cynthia does have a source of speed debuff
not even with that
Because he wants a impossible stage without a win condition
So idk what's the point
Let's see what our next arc units will be
You want the win con to be stalling?
That prob not gonna happen cuz Dena actively hates stall type moves and stuff
Isslike they don’t want it to be wincon, they want it to be supplementary or not help at all
That kinda thing
Sand is a secondary gimmick on Nita
I mean yeah, because there's not a lot of selling in stalling
Sun is a primary one on Anabel
Even an Arc Fire unit won't really solve it unless they bring a whole lot to it
Arc units do bring a lot
And that whole lot would probably make it the best unit in the game isolated
Well maybe not lance
Fire arc support unit would probably be the best one
But if is like Cynthia damage it could be noticeable
Cynthia as an Arc Fire unit wouldn't beat Anabel
I feel like they don’t wanna consume ssmortys role like that
You have to go beyond that
Quite considerably
Anabel has basically 1k more Attack than Nita
I still can't beat Geovanni
Sun actually boosts Fire damage, unlike Sand
It's not they hate stall. It's players like BIG damage so making big dmg sells.
Her sides can't be debuffed offensively
Ok, and what did you use
Only Arcanine can't be debuffed on Sp. Atk.
The rest can be offense debuffed
Anabel in sun is not possible any time soon no matter what
They'll have more damage reduction
New Steven 3/5, Geeta 4/5 and New Lance 3/5
Anabel will heal AoE on every action
What is overexposure
-1 to the 5 basic stats under sun
Like with Moltres's on LA/LG
O
We have team Impervious (with condition) now so that part can be countered if they're willing to make it on fire arcsuit pairs.
Who Will be fire Arc Suit?
Overexposure would synergize well with NC Leaf
Btw i Also tried NC Bianca 3/5 for SpAt and At debuff on Geovanni but he just gets so much dmg
Ppl are speculating Leon bc his Charizard is outdated.
He uses his TMs at the endurance thresholds
You're in Trouble Now! when you hit the 80% threshold and The Ultimate Power! at the 40% threshold
You are reapplying poison zone right?
Yeah
But it wears off when you get too long into the fight and eventually run out of it
Giovanni is tailor-made towards SC Zinnia and Akari
What about Ethan and Typhlosion? That's really More outdated that Charizard
Sadly i dont have Akari 😦
Geeta will probably do. It's just you need to kill Giovanni really fast
I'm Gonna keep trying
Is your AS Lance EXR?
Yes 3/5
It depends on what other teammates are but SS Misty counter it as good as any limited unit.
But when i tried with him, i did 1/5
Oh you’re so right
It's definitely possible with him at 3/5
And I hate it
They could’ve given them a powerboost but instead they’re gonna rerelease them

Maxie and Archie
Everyone
Reeeeee
Overexposure is one thing needed on the fire arc unit for a fire clear on Anabel, but what else?
I also think Primal Groudon/Kyogre are 100% going to be arcsuit pairs.
Look at her go!
alr. arc cyn is now ex. lets return to alola ebe
So how'd it go?
so far ive had some trash luck w/ mprs and lack of misses despite lowered acc for fleur cannon but
definitely going better overall
i might try switching penny for larry as my background rebuff application since his sync will be a lot more helpful while i'm delaying cyn
then again hes a lot less sustain so maybe not
Who's a good debuffer?
That depends on what you have
My options are cerena (only one target) ciris (random debuff of atk or sp atk) or ss n (weak to dragon sync)
For what tho?
And even though i significantly lowered the atks of the sides and Evelyn they still hit hard
Evelyn
Im using cerena and ncrosa so i need a third debuffer
Evelyn? Hmmmmm
I have ss wally but he's 1/5
I also have penny also 1/5 + she can't lower side offenses
Penny is, IMO, one of the units made for Evelyn
Unfortunately both her and ss wally are 1/5
penny's main issue it seems is being generally somewhat frail given the dmg output of the stage
otherwise shes excellent for what the stage asks
Well, she's obviously meant to be paired with the 2 best fairy units in the game
yeah
SS Wally could've gotten by just fine lmao
ok yeah penny is not working
im gonna try one more time with a change in timing/strategy but
Was thinking if Cynthia and Steven can get other "all UB teams" without each other, but dont really see much so far.
Cynthia basically needs Steven for the sand Nita clears, only he has been able to do them so far. Otherwise you need a support with a (manual) weather and the only real tanky options are SS Mina and SS Morty..
and now also Evelyn requires SpAtk debuffs .. it also quite unfortunate that Oleana is weak to ground, making her hard to use on Nita
Stevens (non-Cynthia) options are Poison & Flying comp, but those require a weather support for Anabel (and Argenta too for that matter)
and Ice team is just a poor fit for Steven, Noland & Leon are both a nightmare/probably unbeatable with him
so the Arc Duo are stuck with each other for now
I think you can do Cynthia with Blue and third
we're kinda overdue a really busted support with weather, preferably manual weather and preferably not sand
Morty is pretty good, honestly better than Mina outside of the harsh sun punishment
who do we think is likely to be The Rain Support(tm)?
on one hand i'd like it to be a mf for 400 to pity, but on the other i could see it being an arc unit for the sake of revamping an older unit into the rain unit they shouldve been in the first place sort of thing
arc ss grimsley trust
dfkfgjkh
if my instinct is correct that we're going to get brock rosa and misty arc units for being the original 3 npcs, a rain support misty could be really interesting
multi/field
arc sc anni ss dc tl (aura) (thunderbolt) (champion) (classic) (alt) grimsley
its what he deserves for being so gender <3
real!
but also i wonder if primal kyo/groudon are potentially arc suits (kyo water grou fire for rain and sun respectively)
Ups wrong Steven
i cannot see them making a fire type groudon
primal groudon being ground/fire and cynthia being ground already is why i say fire, im with you that i think its basically never happening but

a bulky kyogre rain setter would be really compelling
they could have them just be like main series primals and just revert as soon as the battle starts
lmao
but 99% chance it'll just be locked behind sync
but also just like. kyo needs it so much more than groudon does but theyre never unpairing them ykno?
we have plenty of sun units
and sun passives
and sun everything
and meanwhile sygna kris gets no field exr 😭
ye no just brain going faster than fingers typing lmao
i get why eusine wasnt as rain oriented since kris suicune already was but
broke: eusine under rain
woke: eusine under ice zone
i just. really really hope we get the kind of rain (and hail, were doing better with sand these days) units to be on par with sun sooner rather than later
there are as many rain-setting eggmon as there are base pairs. and two of them are incredibly old f2p units
and you can say max moves set rain but frankly im so peeved about that counting bc theres 0 mpr an very strictly 1x usage
i still need help trying to beat top teir kento
sometimes it survives the 2nd sync but sometimes it doesn’t
and btw. Hail is like a shield where i cant leer at red during hail? And it’s healing
right
Is it possible to beat any of these limited time extreme battles with any of these pairs?
Did a thing.
were/are there any other teams of the same trainer that can do an UB (or at least a non-Lucy UB) ?
That’s a cute clear
You can do a few with three Red
oh yeah I forgot Mix Red - he has debuffs and heals, that helps
I wish the Kanto trainer Mix units weren’t P2W, feels like a really cheap way to get people to spend
I was thinking more on NC / SST / Redlax, but Mix can be slotted too
I mean, it's not really P2W
They're good units, but not hard carries
You'll still have to work to win
Ah, gotcha
Mix is just Red's 3rd best
I remember his SSTR and NC units are broken beyond belief
this triple Cynthia can do Lucy obviously, not sure about Darach and Argenta. Double Soothing sand might help, I'll try it later
Thorton no
Giovanni no
Noland I tried, but wasnt quite enough damage
just bc hes been powercrept now
Maybe Darach and Argenta?
wait, havent they already gotten darach?
or was that a diff arc cyn ssa cyn clear
Darach is 100% beatable
Still wondering about this
I’ll probably list all my sync pairs later so I can figure out what’s best for each UB
Argenta might be a maybe
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Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
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Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button
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Argenta too, as long as you don't sync with Arc Cynthia until 50%
You're gonna take quite some time to reach 50%, I think
Due to the other Cynthia syncing
Yeah but they're pretty bukly
yes, but witha roster like this it seems like you're just kinda bragging rather than actually needing help. you have 2/5 arc steven
And sand chip
But as long as it doesn't take too long
You can probably survive 3 syncs
4th probably KOs
I’m not bragging- I genuinely dk how to beat these-
Actually, Arc Cynthia has attack trap so she can actually sync
alright, i'll offer you some comps
Or just spam Sand Tomb
she also has sand tomb as a move
And let the other Earthquake full power guaranteed while you accumulate SyMUN
I think a triple steven team is 100% doable
Triple Steven already did Argenta
you can 100% clear kantrio with exr arc cynthia and non-ex arc steven
cynthia changes the sun or hail, steven debuffs defenses
I don’t have Cynthia EX Roled
i mean, i had cynthia with role but no ex
so you should be fine either way, just slightly slower
Alr, I’ll try it
if you can get her role cake itll be faster but
You have the clear linked?
Can't find it on the doc
Let me get it
funny double steven i love u anni steven. just needed a good amount of potions cause arc steven doesnt unlock team triage tank until post mega. pleaseeee give anni steven support ex his bulk would love it
Team Grids & Lucky Skills: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=009004037600&s0=4&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=24010301&t0=4444&x0=true&g0=AAECAwQFBgc...
you can maybe try dragapult leon or rika as your status application for johto, but for me i needed team staring contest from ssa cynthia so idk if you have a path there with grid vigilance + ls unflappable or grid unflappable + ls vigi (or ideally both in grid, but idk who has that)
What’s ls?
I think if I add SS Steven, then the Steven comps can probably do some others as well
i believe arc steven can tank for both galar and unova as well
Maybe Thorton I guess
lucky skill
Ahh
wtf. Argenta is this weak ? or Arc Steven too OP ?
someone else will need to help you for alola and johto, but you can most likely clear at minimum galar, unova, and kantrio
Argenta struggles with tanks with high self survivability
She only attacks single target and doesn't hit too hard
👀 ayo? i have no argenta clear yet....
Since Steven has high bulk and a infinite source of healing, it takes forever for her
can he keep someone like sygna erika alive or is she still too flimsy?
I think he should, but not in a duo
oh def not a duo
this would be my first clear lmao
but if hes feasible for like, arc steven sygna erika lyra
Lyra as in SS Lyra?
Erika's problem against Argenta isn't surviving
to keep sygna erika uptime
ah
You can always off type Argenta
ig my thinking was erika as solar blade dps, lyra syncs for solarize
If grass is weak
my grass isnt weak but i lack sun
Who else you got?
this is my entire weather roster minus archie on entry
That didn’t work
... did you try to duo it, or did you have a third unit
and if so, who
Arc Cynthia is pretty good
I had EX SS Blue cuz he’s my only EX’d Support
Sets sand and has rebuff
true, but doesnt argenta have ice moves?
I don't think so from what I remember
plus shes only 2/5 atm so only 2 uses of sand, and bertha 3/5 continues to elude me
hm. so who in slot 3 so that i can save her first sync for post 50% wipe?
presumably steven syncs mostly for sustain but
do i bring a defog or volkner to clear terrain maybe?
ik ive been told in here you dont need to clear terrain
I think a debuffer can work
you have steven as your support, you dont need a second
Unless Steven is like 4/5 so he could do it himself
yeah no hes 1/5 lmao
Yeah then you want to debuff them
ok so hear me out.... dc hugh for -atk and -spatk??
alternative is 2/5 darach for remove terrain buff + min attack, but no spatk control
Yep, soon as I replaced him with SS Nemona for attack and additional defense debuffs plus extra weather set up, was a pretty easy fight
Tyvm!
i think im gonna try argenta w/ arc cyn arc steven darach and see what happens
And you said Galar and Unova can be done with Arc Steven and Cynthia plus someone else?
most likely
honestly
that same team with nemona can probably work for unova BUT
do not set sun until victini is dead
victini will kill you even without sun and if you give it sun youre toast
Alr, I’ll try that
Well, the Unova one failed completely since Kyurem spams Icy Wind, so Cynthia dies way too quickly
hm, do you have any sprint pairs? if you can sync asap with steven, he'll upgrade triage tank to team triage tank which will help keep cynthia alive
This is my entire roster, and I’m new, so I don’t have any EX roles unlocked or anything of that sort
riley is sprint
give me a second to think
but also
i also had vigilance as cynthia's ls; i think i used steven's unique cookie but if you didnt get that out of the event then lmk
I got the whole event done, so I got all of those cookies
awesome
oh right and you have anniversary lillie
shes probably better here than riley (im sorry riley i still love u)
Ah, alr
radiance of the sun will increment sync cooldown by 2 along with using a turn itself, so you should be able to sync with steven one cycle sooner (on top of the sync acceleration from setting sand)
Alr, I’ll try that
you'll want to time lillie's buddy move strategically with when you set sand - i might do it as lillie's tm, sand tomb on n, steven's tm, radiance of the sun, [icy wind] stevens bmove, sunsteel strike, sand tomb on genesect [techno blast] sync with steven, lillie's bmove, sand tomb on victini [n] iron head, sunsteel strike, cynthia's tm [victini] steven's bmove, lillie's bmove, sandstorm
i think this calcs out decently
but i might be wrong
Stupid Genesect won’t stop paralyzing Steven -_-
Then the dumb Victini burns Lillie and Cynthia
i forgot about that, mb
How do you even counter these-?
to be honest? 100% i used marley
i just didnt remember that until i was reminded of status infliction just now being part of their kit
so ok ignore the above
wait i forgot part of marley's grid
timing-wise, you want to do:
marley xspeed all, cynthia tm, steven tm [icy wind]
marley xspeed all, steven bmove, sandstorm [techno blast]
marley tm (reset if you don't get the mp refresh 3 to proc), steven iron head, steven sync to get team triage tank 9 online - you skip cynthias move here intentionally to save sandstorm uptime. also make sure you're syncing on victini first [n move]
cynthia bmove, dealers choice of marnie's attacks (flame wheel is marginally more optimal since we have lower -def at this point), steven bmove [victini]
cynthia continues to use her bmove, marley stalls until she throws up her second tm after which you should be close enough to kill that you wont need a third, cynthia waits for sand to go down to re-set it but you should be able to sync with her after the first steven sync between healing entry and steven's potions
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
i would also recommend promoting marley to 4* or 5* if you can
update: yeah this just cant whittle down suicune well enough
so i think tanking the higher damage output with psy terrain up and going for dc hugh is the move (or if theres another unit who can do both -atk and -spatk; ik theres kyurem but thats single target rather than aoe)
Alr, I’ll try this. Ty
is this for anabel
Yeahh
because anabel is phys attacks
thats why youre dying
you have no def
or well, you have like. +2 from bertha
This was the actual team used for the f2p clear
Though I don't really know the grid myself
I didnt know sycamore and bertha had ice and normal guard on them as a lucky skill
Wow, was that annoying, but I finally managed to do it
Had to cut it VERY close and get lucky with flinches with Iron Head, but I’ll take it
@snow spruce is this recorded?
I have Galar, Alola, and Johto left. Anything I can do with this roster? So far, Arc Cynthia and Arc Steven paired with smth else has done it, but need to know what I can do for these others
It's just so nice to run through teams against Evelyn
Okay, I was able to beat Galar with Ghetsis, Arc Cynthia, and Arc Steven since Double Drop Noble Roar was able to keep Moltres weak enough
Still need to figure out how to beat Alola and Johto tho..
Those 2 are being a pain, especially Johto
Yeah, I’m completely stuck on Johto
you can beat marnie, but not ethan?
wow
I tried doing it with Arc Cynthia, Arc Steven, and Rika, and they just can’t kill Lugia before dying to the second sync
how do you get damage checked that badly
also replace Rika since shes pretty useless
You need a status condition on every opponent tho
This is my roster
I managed to barely beat Alola, but man, Johto is just painful
in fairness a) i was only able to beat johto with the good grace of ex elesa and 2) i have yet to beat alola but ive beaten all the rest
i genuinely think johto and alola are the hardest two for those of us with thinner rosters
even with arc steven and arc cynthia carrying they do eventually hit a limit
i am NOT relatable
I took at least 1-3 tries MAX for each stage
and I run into it not knowing what im doing
lucky you??
theyre ebes for a reason in that theyre intended as late-game content and reward people who have invested heavily in the game
but as the other side of that coin, someone who has a few more recent units but not as much in the way of long-term investment is going to struggle a lot more
Pretty much
like, i have 1/5 penny. penny would be a huge help in terms of applying rebuff for alola, but she can only do it on the first hit each battle, which the arcs now cover. so for the entire first alola sync cycle she uses her tms and then sits there unable to contribute
and even once lusamine does sync and she can apply rebuff, at 1/5 shes not procing satisfied snicker or anything to actually help
whereas someone who has enough move coins to spend their candies on her, maybe ex or even role cake her, is going to get a lot more out of having her in their roster
Needing Unflappable on all your pairs makes Johto pretty annoying, cuz it means I can’t run CS2 on Arc Cynthia, meaning I leave the lead just BARELY alive before it kills the rest of my team
for galar and unova one of the main stage conditions is covered either by impervious or the assorted stat protection grid tiles
so thats already so much easier to handle from a thinner roster
I haven't invested heavily into the game
not that much that I think of.
1 year 6 months
That’s a lot of time investment, so that’s investment in the game
I’ve only been playing since the beginning of this month
ok. i played when the game launched, stopped playing shortly after cynthia's initial release banner came out, came back for short periods when ssr and ssa dropped, and then came back for rika earlier this year
I've played this account since half anni where nc galar released
so thats around 6 months when the game first released, interstitial month-or-so periods between now and then, and then the past... what, 5 months?
I'm going to be real honest with you
I basically did nothing january through the end of may this year
Was burnt out of Poma
just did dailies max and left
cool, but you still have the roster from that
when i got back into pmex earlier this year i pulled on rika bc i love her. im lucky shes cracked
i mean i dont think johto is that difficult
you dont need unflappable on everyone unless u lack good side dps
we're both rat and thunder bird owners
So I'm pretty sure we dont have much say here
theres a few go viral status units isnt there
Yeah, but I don’t have any of those
you even tried arc lance?
It’s not a matter of what battle’s hardest, it’s a matter of I need help figuring this battle out with what I have
bc at that point my roster consisted of a 3/5 ex sygna red, 1/5 rika, 1/5 ex ssa cynthia, 1/5 ssr cynthia, and 1/5 ex og cynthia
Idk but you could try a last ditch b hyper beam
for max damage and see where it gets you
Who do I replace-? Cuz I kinda need Steven for his tanking and Lance can’t deal with the sides unlike Cynthia, and I need a status user
Poma players have always managed to pull off the most absurd clears, do it, or don't
no shame in losing 600 gems that weren't even possible in the first place
What-
wait you dont have 3/5 colress even?
ah so you just feel like being a troll
I’m a new player 😭
ig not cuz unova pool is bloated as hell
Being honest here
I have Colress 4/5 and kinda don't want to use hin
These are what I have to work with
I've skipped DC
"im just being honest" = "i want to be obnoxious and pretend like its justified"
the channel exists to discuss and ask for help
Yeah you're definitely the type of person that thinks anything is possible
i mean honestly sometimes you have to accept stuff isnt possible
like i gave up on this anabel ebe cuz i cant cover weather and attack drops
@errant kite hey, hope the ping is ok, i recall you being around before - mind taking out some trash
I'm giving actual advice here, this guy has asked multiple times and hasn't really gotten anywhere. If you think that I'm being stupid, then you're just delusional. It's like saying that clearing some ebes are possible with a insanely restricted roster
cuz the only reliable status unit i can see here is silver and non pb silver is not good
I haven’t gotten anywhere cuz you’re turning this hostile for no reason-
What's going on y'all
This is the only toxicity I've really seen in this server, and it's by someone who literally needs a reality check
except we literally did help this person get clears
because they asked for help
which is what the channel is for
Really doesn't prove your point
demanding aoe status and spdef drops is hard to ask
and thats not reasonable with that roster
I mean you could squeeze all of your materials out to try and clear this
you would either need to ko ss kris extremely early or just weather through boosted attacks
But generally not worth it for a 1 month player.
He has no electric types that can really pull that off. Even with arc cynthia arc Steven Rika he wasn't able to beat the Ethan stage
i dont think im gonna clear anabel or alola but im still gonna try, and im still gonna try to help the other people working with limited resources. it helps no one to go 'yeah it was easy'
which is kind of what i mean
Bro this is a really harsh thing to say to a newbie wtf
at this point its not feasible to try and clear
I don't understand what's so rude about it tbh.
unless op wants to go through a ton of mald
I’ve come super close many times, I just need to find out how to deal enough damage to get the final blow on the middle
oh then thats easy
focus ss lyra so she doesnt use swift
then use cs2 on cynthia
If you're one attack off winning you're definitely going to be able to do it
Might just need some luck
swift is fairly late into the fight
So it’s just hope Cynthia doesn’t get flinched, and if she does, restart?
so the threat of aoe flinch isnt too bad unless u really lack side dps
Pretty sure ss lyra has aoe flinch 100%
You need to kill her though
swift is her only sure hit aoe, otherwise its just focused on your tank
and cs2 would help more than unflappable
And from my experience, she has over like 50k hp
i mean im parroting this mainly from other people
cuz ss lyra was just not a threat to me at all
Seriously, can you please stop being a negative Nancy? This helps nobody
so your only contribution to people offering insight that might help is 'its not worth it to try' and shutting down people trying to help
i agree with uh
but her swift would only happen after she uses giga impact post sync
how do we differentiate you
What the fuck did I do
omegamart top tier units
focus ss lyra so you dont need to worry about the flinch from swift (if you get a flinch from twister rip)
Maybe just step out of the chat
then you can safely skill cs2 for the damage you need
There's plenty of people already helping
bad timing
also
ngl
i kinda trolled myself
cuz geeta cant use b move if im using her with sstr

rip
but it was fine
anyway
im trying to figure out a team
cuz unironically sides are way more threatening than ethan himself
Okay, so go CS2, focus Lyra, and just pray to RNGesus that Cynthia doesn’t get flinched beforehand, and if she does, just restart
so ex elesa let me get chip damage in on the others while focusing down kris asap
yep
you got this
essentially
and rmb to adjust your grid as needed
i believe that the ex elesa clear was one of the first f2p clears for ethan
your steven is 2/5 so you can grid for potion mpr if you need
Alrighty
yeah, i would never have guessed she would be the electric to ex
I still can’t believe I got 2 of him in one multi 😭
and with her expansion its easy to set up
nah its all her power boost
without power boost she was cope
so i wasnt expecting her to have gotten such a good one
i dont have arc steven
oh right
the aeroblast hurts
there was a run with event units mostly accesible
yeah
but all got gridded with unflappable
cuz that would make it too easy
well in that case they could go for post sync
yeah
im on my knees begging for a kalos rerun
i dont know if op does
realistically speaking they should just add the pb and ex events to villain arc
but nooo we cant have that
this was the team they used
i dont have 3/5
i literally just started working on his event today
oh
wait
hold on
rip i was asking bc i dont and im guessing op doesnt but i do not have it in my soul to rerun johto now that i have my clear
what about evelyn instead of nidorino
hmmm
mm
she needs grid for hostile environment i think
and she prevents quad
so probably not on second thought
... what about bp morty?
he has potion + mpr for +2/+2 to defenses
then you grid elesa for the spark hostile environment tile
its hard to get
oh wait
im looking at potion mpr and mh1
yeah i can readjust
i dont have 4* pus tho
ah rip
i unwisely threw a pull at the banner bc i love dragapult and figured i might as well and got a full slate of clays so i converted some of my 3*s into 4*s
i think clemont might still be better but
well shifting away from this could this clear anabel or no
I DID IT!!!!!
EVERYONE BUT STEVEN DIED TO SECOND SYNC, BUT HE HELD ON AND CLUTCHED IT
oh congrats wtf
AAAAA, that was so annoying, but SO satisfying to beat
yeah, its the best feeling
i had to use nc blue
when the nc cheren and bianca ebes happened a while back i was SO satisfied when i managed to clear one of them. it was the BEST feeling
I used Anni Solgaleo Lillie, Arc Cynthia, and Arc Steven. Pretty sure there was some luck involved, but it managed
i want to make it very clear i say this as a nonbinary and queer person. im so mad hes so gender and hes so busted i need that lesbian on my roster yesterday
Still, Lusamine hit like a damn truck with Prismatic Laser, like, wtf
what a good unit
uh
oof yeah prismatic laser is insane
Yeah, that one was so annoying
literally so rude
Marley came in clutch that battle
marley is another day 1 unit who i would never have guessed i would use as much as i do
the hardest part was literally surviving the initial onslaught cus they really said fuck you die
Man, there’s so many Master Fairs I wish I had
but since she covers status you can lucky skill for the rest of what you need

