Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles

[hearty cedar]

Only ubs he might have to plan are leon which can be beatable, giovanni(same) and nita(i give up)

Any specific reason for zerena on argenta?

[low coral]

You're gonna need a bit of planning on Noland, but Anabel should solve

[hearty cedar]

Grusha too

[low coral]

Lets you constantly Sync with Lance as Zerena covers Status Change later

[hearty cedar]

Just run rosa

And teeter spam

Nvm

Weather

[low coral]

Morty should be a solid option

[hearty cedar]

Ye

Another option is

Rosa, silver and lance

For argenta

[low coral]

Hmm

Who keeps syncing?

Both Silver and Lance want to save it for later

[hearty cedar]

Lance imo. We can always teeter spam

[low coral]

Yeah, that probably works

[hearty cedar]

Ngl, it'll be very funny to see arc steven clear argenta with 2 supports while he is the only dmg dealer

Well its possible bcuz skinny did triple support run against argenta

[low coral]

And Gio, I dunno

I think you don't run a second dragon

[hearty cedar]

Zerena is good

I dont see a reason not to run her

For argenta

Has aoe

Clears sides + 20% boost to both of their dps instead of only 10%

Theme skills activation too

[final yacht]

The one time I get a triple Sync crit

[hearty cedar]

I get that triple sync crit almost 90% of the time

Just replace redlax

Pretty sure victini will be better there compared to redlax

[final yacht]

Bold of you to assume I have Victini

The clear requires a TM MPR on Red too

Bcs Bianca doesnt kill Snorlax without SEUN

[hearty cedar]

First time clearing? Or doing it for fun?

[final yacht]

A bit of both, although fun isnt really the word

[hearty cedar]

Just use another fighting type like bea

[final yacht]

That wont work lmao

Without SEUN Bianca's nuke is far from enough + I dont sprint enough

[hearty cedar]

How many turns are you spending before sync 1?

[final yacht]

2

2 each cycle except the last

[hearty cedar]

You need a good secondary dps on palmer. Bianca cant do that by herself

[final yacht]

She can

[hearty cedar]

You can get the same with bea too

[hearty cedar]

I wish you good luck then. I kinda want to see her solo dps that stage too. Ping me if you clear it

No nc.rosa?

[final yacht]

worse than cynthia because zone is better

ill get it... at some point

[hearty cedar]

I was thinking of replacing red instead

Use head starts so you can sync 1 in 2 turns

Ssac's sprint ex will let you sync 2 turns later again

Rosa's rebuff and slightly more circle could be better

[final yacht]

I wanna get it with cynthia first

It's just getting all 3 crits + 1 MPR on Red + all the quads (3)

[snow spruce]

"Initial Guard Applies the Damage Guard Next effect to the user when it enters a battle."
lmao this is Lances custom cookie .. why didnt Steven get it
and Lance should have gotten Stevens sync burst instead TT

[hearty cedar]

Initial guard is only good for noland ub anyway

Just use steven, ss lear and grusha for noland

Should be easy

[snow spruce]

yeah, but I dont need to just clear Noland, I want a team that can do all 11 UBs, preferably one with both ArcCynthia + ArcSteven

[hearty cedar]

Steven can always be a secondary dmg dealer with his nuke + rebuffs combo on noland to boost ss lear significantly

[hearty cedar]

I dont think that's possible with any of these arc fairs

[snow spruce]

I'll certainly try

[hearty cedar]

Noland will stop you for sure

[low coral]

Actually

What stops you from running NC Cheren?

Drops Speed, dodges Noland

[hearty cedar]

Steven + cheren?

[low coral]

Arc core + Cheren

[hearty cedar]

The main issue is the support no?

[snow spruce]

Cynthia + Steven + Cheren .. ? for all 11 UB ?

hmm

[hearty cedar]

Bcuz we need 1 support that can support them for all ubs

[hearty cedar]

Maybe this could work

[snow spruce]

Steven should be able to handle most UBs for sure, Noland is the worst one

[hearty cedar]

Ye noland gets packed up when cheren is involved

[snow spruce]

the other problematic ones would be Nita (duh) and Palmer

[hearty cedar]

Nita....the sand....

[snow spruce]

but Palmer should die, that team is so much damage

[low coral]

And Cheren's the top Speed debuffer in the game

[hearty cedar]

You just dont setup the sand after once ig

Ye

Ss mina stalled out 1 sand right

Maybe we can keep stalling?

Bcuz sand will only boost their offense

[snow spruce]

I am coping that Cynthias ground rebuff for the team can help endure Nita
there is also flinch

[hearty cedar]

There's hope

[snow spruce]

also its mixed damage for Thorton

[hearty cedar]

And each time it goes to sand, we can set our own sand on that exact same turn to get ground zone too

[hearty cedar]

Eh thorton is easy for all 3 arc units

[snow spruce]

you dont really want to give Nita ground zone tho

[hearty cedar]

I forgot...

Ignore that remark

[low coral]

Thorton doesn't look particular easy for Cynthia

Cheren's help is appreciated

[hearty cedar]

Bcuz ice weak?

[low coral]

And starting out with physical damage only

Which is when you hit weaker

[hearty cedar]

Not an issue. If nc.nate can deal with it then arc cynthia can

And yes either cheren or lance's support is appreciated

[low coral]

Well, Nate with who?

Because obv someone like Hilda would cover it

But most teammates appreciated by Cynthia + Steven would be physical

[snow spruce]

as long as I can beat Nita & Noland/Palmer I will handle Thorton I'm sure

anyway NC Cheren is good choice, will try it too

Thorton is flinchable too

[loud adder]

With Mix Leaf coming soon, could she, SS Kris and SS Lysandre beat Anabel?

[low coral]

Yes

[loud adder]

Will it be Cerena levels of easy or~

[low coral]

Not Cerena levels, but still shouldn't offer too many problems

You only lack a big single target nuke, but you've got reliable rain, big AoE DPS, big ST DPS, good debuffs, burn immunity, etc.

[hearty cedar]

Greninja serena to deal 40% to mid

[valid onyx]

What's the weakness of the newest UB?

[hearty cedar]

Special stuff was taken care of by her and the physical with nate. I didnt use serena's physical moves

[hearty cedar]

Fairy

[valid onyx]

Ahhh

I hope I can clear it with Gladion

[slate light]

going to use nemona/ss wally/penny myself, maybe that'll work

[spiral tendon]

Hi guys, can someone help me choose the right units to complete take on piers part2? These r my units, I’m showing only the ones who got the event buff

[snow spruce]

after thinking about the Cynthia - Steven - NC Cheren team, as long as it can do Nita - Noland and Gio should be easy
Thorton too obv. Leon should be fine even without status
Palmer would be the only question mark then. I have no idea if they can kill him pre-max move. Stevens lack of sprint role hurts a bit

[shrewd marten]

I believe in arc Cynthia

[hearty cedar]

Just overwhelm palmer with sheer power

[final yacht]

@hearty cedar

[hearty cedar]

This makes it look easy tbh

Gratz

[final yacht]

I was getting pissed of damage rolls so I 150 Bianca
1st try I get crit on all 3 and at 150 you dont need the tm mpr

[hearty cedar]

Yep

[final yacht]

So yeah it's fairly trivial, just get your quads and crit all 3 on sync

[hearty cedar]

Single dps bianca works

Damn

The meme about bianca was true lol

[final yacht]

The move order is extremely strict however

[hearty cedar]

It's palmer ub so expected

Atleast its not rng dependent outside of getting crit on sync

[final yacht]

Maybe I got good rolls but I dont think so

Gonna upload it soon

[final yacht]

https://youtu.be/xwMoINU9dZ0

[buoyant tide]

im getting nowhere with allister 2; given this roster is that p much expected?

piers 2 is also proving difficult due to all my non-cynthia fighting units being heavily phys based but wanting to sync with her for fighting zone to override dark

[true lagoon]

karen has clears

[true lagoon]

you could try with sonia and bea

could also add maylene to set up inertia faster

[buoyant tide]

that was the team i cleared stage 1 with yeah

my dmg output just wasnt good enough to stay alive it felt

also yeah i ex'd karen for stage 1, i'll go back to testing with her

my main feeling was just Needing some form of def (i have vigi on her for that protection at least) but shes so glass canon and my roster of supports that can help with that is very thin since melony feels very one and done (w/ max move barriers) and everyone else is phys not spec

and syncing with rachel to not die when youre built as a sync nuke just feels bad

[crude drum]

Cheren & Purrloin

<:GRID_SYNC:967786997982830712> __Sync Tiles:__

(3) Toward My Ideals Dark Beam: Power +25
(3) Toward My Ideals Dark Beam: Power +25
(3) Toward My Ideals Dark Beam: Power +25
(3) Toward My Ideals Dark Beam: Power +25

<:GRID_MOVE:967786997265629195> __Move Tiles:__

(2) Dark Pulse: Move Gauge Refresh 3 - Has a chance (40%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when a move is successful.
(2) Dire Hit +: MP Refresh 2 - Has a chance (30%) of restoring one MP of the user's move when that move is successful.
(2) Fake Tears: Move Gauge Refresh 3 - Has a chance (40%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when a move is successful.
(2) What to Do...: Fleet Feet 1 - Raises the user's Speed by 1 stat rank when its move is successful.
(2) What to Do...: MP Refresh 2 - Has a chance (30%) of restoring one MP of the user's move when that move is successful.

‎

(3) Dark Pulse: Aggravation 1 - Raises the chance of inflicting the flinching, confused, or trapped condition with the additional effects of moves.
(3) Fake Tears: Twofer 2 - Has a chance (30%) of applying the Free Move Next effect to the user when its Pokémon uses a move.
(3) What to Do...: Hit and Heal 9 - Applies the Gradual Healing effect to the user when its move is successful.

<:GRID_PASSIVE:967786997215264808> __Passive Tiles:__

(1) Dauntless - Sp. Atk cannot be lowered.
(1) Haste - Speed cannot be lowered.

‎

(2) Quick Cure - Removes the confused, flinching, and trapped conditions from the user the first time they are inflicted each battle.
(2) Superduper Effective 2 - Powers up moves that are super effective.

‎

(3) Brainteaser - The more the target's Sp. Def is lowered, the more it powers up the user's moves.
(3) Catalyst - Applies the Move Gauge Acceleration effect to the allied field of play the first time the user's sync move is used each battle.
(3) Speedster’s Sync 5 - Powers up the user's sync move when its Speed is raised.

[true lagoon]

oh

why did i think he was a support

[buoyant tide]

nah tech. and flimsy lmao

[true lagoon]

yeh hes kinda bad

[buoyant tide]

tried so hard to get cheren karen for stage 1

[true lagoon]

at least he gets 60% flinch on a free unit

[buoyant tide]

and he dies to a stiff breeze let alone an eq lmao

[true lagoon]

so ok for gauntlet

[buoyant tide]

oh hes def solid

just not in this use case

im this close to offtyping and giving up the bonus just to see how much of a diff it makes if i use ssa cynthia for +6 def/spdef

[true lagoon]

ssac would probably help

a lot

also why didnt you say you have her

shes boosted for the piers ebe

or maybe im just blind

[buoyant tide]

shes boosted for piers and shes my fav 5ever

[buoyant tide]

also i did say lmao

just not boosted for allister

[thin canyon]

I was able to get a clear with Karen Rachel and hop

[buoyant tide]

oh?

is it just potion mprs to cover for lack of spdef?

[thin canyon]

Yeah

[buoyant tide]

i can try that

[thin canyon]

Though might have to bump up there levels to 140 at least

[balmy jolt]

do i got a decent way to defeat anabel or am i cooked

[true lagoon]

uh

basically no hope

[balmy jolt]

ou

[marble flume]

It's honestly not that big of a deal

[true lagoon]

if those are all of your boosted uits

[buoyant tide]

ive given up hope on anabel lmao

[timid hazel]

What's the gimmick with Piers part 2? Only one I can't clear

[buoyant tide]

exr rika cant save me its so joever

[balmy jolt]

no but like i dont mean that impossible one,, im talm abt the event one

[buoyant tide]

if you cant clear the stat buffs you die

[buoyant tide]

i know. rika is weak to ice

and also i am suffering for good weather units

[balmy jolt]

same ijbol

[buoyant tide]

but yeah imagin im currently scraping everything ive got to try and lower spdef. a little peeved that i went ahead and grabbed dc blue over marnie to enable sygna red in fire dc when dc marnie wouldve been a godsend in both allister and piers...

remind me why allister has drain punch instead of focus blast??

[true lagoon]

dark zone and you want to debuff both defenses since he has multipliers for both

[buoyant tide]

au allister with focus blast and on a roll somewhere in his grid/kit...

im dying squirtle

[supple reef]

is there anyone like lana but like

with an actually reliable wide guard?

i cant do noland’s ub bc the wide guard refresh always fails

ik basically all the clears in the docs have her so maybe im just unlucky with the 60%

[gentle wharf]

Yeah it’s mostly a matter of getting lucky with the refreshes

[timid hazel]

I just don't have a good offensive fighting type to be Piers. I can get rid of the buffs with topsy turvy but my damage is awful.

[supple reef]

yeah

so is there anyone else with it

with a real mp refresh

[timid hazel]

My best offensive fighting type is Diantha and Keldeo

[buoyant tide]

yeah i think im tapping out of piers

i just dont have the roster

someone like spectrier would be my missing link

sonia spectrier and ssa cynthia could do it bc cynthia could cover the dmg with spectrier's tm, tm has both haze and shadow ball w/ on a roll for spdef, sonia has def crush

but alas

event ends too soon for me to use him when he comes back next week

[stable tundra]

no? SSA Cynthia, Sonia and Bea should work

for Dark you can use Hop, Melony and Karen

[buoyant tide]

bea goes down to a single sync w/ brute wits

[stable tundra]

even with Vigilance?

[buoyant tide]

yeah

[stable storm]

Is she ex

[buoyant tide]

no

[stable tundra]

she gets instantly one shot from full health?

[buoyant tide]

i dont have the resources

yes

[stable storm]

are you debuffing enemy defences to -1

or at least +0

[buoyant tide]

i have sonia for def crush but i have no way to reduce spdef on that team

so brute wits gets to +6 by sync

[stable storm]

are you actually reducing their defences to+0 tho

[buoyant tide]

im literally spamming tackle

so every hit is -1 def

[stable storm]

my bea survived brute wits max sync at 40% so hmmm

could you send a recording if possible?

[buoyant tide]

sure

lets see if this sends

if not i can compress it like last time

ok yeah no too big

[shrewd marten]

She not ex

[buoyant tide]

yes.

[shrewd marten]

Prob missing a tiny bit of bulk

[buoyant tide]

i said that here

[shrewd marten]

Maybe

[buoyant tide]

but yeah even with vigi and +6 to both defenses

i missed the final fist bump to get to full but

you get the idea

[buoyant tide]

also ty for this, i managed to clear allister finally!!

so now its just 300 gems off from missing the full event payout, i feel less bad about that tbh

[valid raft]

Anyone done a Riley clear on Piers yet

[timid hazel]

Can Diantha Keldeo do it or am I screwed?

[valid raft]

She can

She also counters one of Piers's gimmicks

[buoyant tide]

my successful teams has a riley/nc bianca/sonia and a rei/riley/hop (zama)

[valid raft]

I might actually just ping dark instead to pin the guide I made. But I need his/her approval first

@jade marsh Can you approve of this and pin this here? Sorry for this
https://discordapp.com/channels/583120259708616715/1009557516369281075/1277609405491318825

[rotund oasis]

Wew fairy weak gaming huh impressive

[timid hazel]

How can she do anything other than counter a gimmick? I can't do any damage with her even with lowering his defenses

[valid raft]

She nukes, but that's assuming you fully buff her defensive stats

[timid hazel]

The party I'm using is her. Cynthia Lucario and Hilda summer. But I'm not doing much damage and have no way to get rid of dark zone

[paper mural]

Not my clear but I've seen he did it even without exr.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN2Vq_QUeU4

[paper mural]

The best substitute of Lana is Grushia with his bmove blocking all attack no matter single or aoe. It has 2 uses but can't refresh btw.

[supple reef]

oh no dw

after one (!!!) hour of suffering lana decided to start refreshing and i managed to win 💀

all this for 300 gems oh well

now im suffering with thorton’s stage instead since idk-why-he doesnt get dmg

and i did inflict negative statuses

[stable tundra]

He has Sentry Entry x3, and when his HP drops to below 60% he switches to Wise Entry x3

[rotund oasis]

Hmm im thinking of NC Blue, NC Leaf and SS Nemona o.o

[valid raft]

Sides always have Sentry Entry x3

[rotund oasis]

Unless you need to drop speed

[timid hazel]

Can that team I posted do it?

[valid raft]

What move level is your team?

[timid hazel]

Cynthia is maxed. Diantha is 4 and Hilda is just 1

[echo drum]

So, what's the rec for the anabel battle using Nemona?

Because even with her, I'm getting my ass kicked

(Other two are Sycamore and Spring Burgh)

[rich heron]

Shouldn't be a problem ig

[echo drum]

It's probably the order I'm doing things in

First sync goes to Sycamore, then I mostly just spam Nemona's attack

But it isn't really enough

[rich heron]

Maybe replace sycamore

[paper mural]

Did you queue 3 moves between opponents attacks?

[echo drum]

Yeah?

[echo drum]

I kinda can't Nemona is my only Paldea unit, and Sycamore is my one Fairy tank besides Burgh

[rich heron]

You don't need to use only fairy types ig

[echo drum]

Yeah, but who else would be useful??

Nemona already handles weather changing

Unless it's like

.

A!Grimsley with Screech???

[paper mural]

My guess is nemona's atk debuff is not keeping up with the opponents atk buffs, so maybe another atk debuff would be more helpful.

[echo drum]

Hmm...

I do have C!Iris

[jade marsh]

I’ll pin it for anni sure

[wary hemlock]

so whats latios gimmicks?

[true lagoon]

latias but hits super hard

fluid fortification buffs both offenses and special defense

sides are fucking fat

[wary hemlock]

oh quite similar to entei?

[true lagoon]

yes

sides also have fluid fortification though

but gimmicks wise evelyn is fairly simple compared to recent ubs

[rotund oasis]

How much HP? O.o

[true lagoon]

apparently 323k

[rotund oasis]

I might just run ball guy for this lol

[lunar sedge]

The sides?

[true lagoon]

WHICH IS MORE THAN LEON

[lunar sedge]

Dann lmao

[stable storm]

680k on mid

323k on sides

[rotund oasis]

Whats the offensive stats?

[stable storm]

sides do very little tho

4k

[true lagoon]

4k on evelyn

[rotund oasis]

3k?

Ewwwww

[true lagoon]

she hits very hard

if you cant debuff fast

[stable storm]

only buff 1 stat at a time

[true lagoon]

aka use ss wally or die trying not to

[stable storm]

and they only get damage buffs from 1 type of boosts

[true lagoon]

yeah but fluid fort is cringe

[stable storm]

She's Anabel from Walmart and no sun

[rotund oasis]

Okay i think i can do nuker NC Blue heh

With ball guy

[stable storm]

their buffing ain't too crazy at least

[rotund oasis]

And ss nemona gaming

[stable storm]

it's like +1 to one stat after every attack?

and+2 to everything on endure

[rotund oasis]

Yeah ball guy definitely

[stable storm]

when is latios dropping?

[halcyon mango]

I had thought I can clear Allister EB2 easily when I got Akari

[stable tundra]

She will not help in physical based comps

Enemies have double defense stat

So special dmg dealers are way more useful

If you use her to enhance a special DD, that's great

[halcyon mango]

I did managed to clear it albeit needed some reset attempts, Akari + Hop + Sonia helped

[stable tundra]

Well if it works, it works

[halcyon mango]

Yes, fortunately

[valid raft]

Now, out of the 5 FFA EBs, which is hardest one?

[stable storm]

I'd say blue if you don't have diantha

I think ultra lussa is also hard

Unless you have ss glad

[valid raft]

You need rebuff

On the Alola EB

[stable storm]

ss glad+ rebuffer

[stable storm]

what do you think

[valid raft]

NC Blue + NC Leaf counters the majority of gimmicks of almost all the EBs

[fair sorrel]

I don’t have diantha so uh, I’ll have to skip that ebe

[valid raft]

You can use an external defense debuffer

[stable storm]

What gimmicks do they NOT counter

[stable storm]

yamper, bertha and Olivia with dc2 could do stuff

[valid raft]

They don't partially counter the Unova EB because they have miss gimmicks

Blue can do it because he has Impervious, but not ure about Leaf

[fair sorrel]

I’ll try that when it comes.

The rest, I can do

[stable storm]

simply do not miss

[valid raft]

Brycen-Man practically counters all the gimmicks of the Alola EB

[stable storm]

I think I am fine for all the mini ubs

[valid raft]

Sp. Atk. and Sp. Def. debuff and AoE dark rebuff

[stable storm]

Galar birds look a bit weird to fight

I will just toss grusha at them tho

[fair sorrel]

Ya I got him.

[valid raft]

I can't wait for SS Diantha and NC Silver to duo the NC Kantrio EB

Especially because I feel like it's really catered towards Diantha because of Red's HP

[valid raft]

I think, that the Unova EB is the hardest of all

[stable storm]

their gimmick is accuracy (basically no gimmick) and status spam right?

[valid raft]

You also need a field, but not in the sense that once field is enogh

[stable storm]

they have defense increase if no wtz?

[valid raft]

Yes

[stable storm]

hmmm

[valid raft]

SS Mina has fairy zone, rain and Team Whimsical Immunity

[stable storm]

victini has ridicure huh

oh wait eusine has piercing gaze

nvm I am fine for Hilda

N I just toss ss glad ss mina

[valid raft]

And Hilbert?

[stable storm]

Og time

ss red

with mix blue

and chase

[stable storm]

I wonder if all ebes will have a f2p clear

[valid raft]

Maybe, but the gimmicks are hella hard to counter for almost all of them

[rich heron]

Oh wait
Wrong channel

[low coral]

I think double Solgaleo is good for Unova

For F2P

Since MC doesn't care about accuracy drops

Neither does Lillie and you get the synergistic Steel damage core

[stable storm]

?

[low coral]

?

[valid raft]

Impervious

On MC Solgaleo

[stable storm]

oh right

[low coral]

And even without Impervious, he has +6 Accuracy on a 100% accurate move lol

[valid raft]

They all have Discombobulate 9 with Ripple Effect, so we'd best be grateful about Full Metal Body Impervious on Solgaleo

[low coral]

Sunsteel Strike is essentially Piercing Gaze in practice

[valid raft]

Sunsteel Strike = Sacred Sword

[river prawn]

Sacred sword ignores raised stats

Basically nothing if you crit

[low coral]

Well, it matters for what Caster was comparing it to

Which is evasion boosts being irrelevant

[stable tundra]

Sacred Sword can still miss if the user's accuracy is decreased

[river prawn]

Oh I didn't think about the evasion interaction

[low coral]

People used Incineroar for accessible evasion-dealing damage as well

[valid raft]

Exactly, same as with Sunsteel Strike

[low coral]

But Sunsteel Strike for MC would be immune to accuracy drops

[valid raft]

Yeah, if they didn't have Impervious

[low coral]

So even on a stage that has accuracy drops and evasion boosts to the max, Sunsteel Strike can't miss

[wary hemlock]

for arc cynthia extreme

any gimmick?

[low coral]

The EBEs aren't for the Arcs

There's 5 Anniversary EBEs, basically, rather than aimed at specific units

[river prawn]

Are they even same weakness battles

Some of those trios don't share weaknesses, unless they use different pokemon than the pairs

[calm sand]

Some share weaknesses, others don’t

[wary hemlock]

oh none at all?

[low coral]

Well, they're good pairs, so they'll be good for some of the battles

But no, they aren't built to promote them

[timid hazel]

@valid raft I was able to do it with that party I had. Looks like the main problem is that I need to stop playing on fast forward 3 for harder content lol

[spice basin]

I pissed a ping in here somewhere - did y'all need a pin?

Nevermind looks like it's sorted

[final yacht]

Yknow you can check who pinged you recently

[exotic dome]

So we are getting and EBE event with 5 regional EBE and a new UB?

[low coral]

There wasn't any theme datamined

Not sure if it was an error or there's just no boosts

[spark isle]

I want to formaly apologise to this team for doubting its damage output and not sticking to it for multiple tries.

[pallid badger]

I finally completed Piers’ EBE. I used Brawly, Riley and Hop. It was so hard

Just in time before reset

[snow spruce]

DeNA has created a monster...

[thin canyon]

Would this team be able to beat nitia ultimate battle
nc red 3/5 tech ex role
Ss mina 5/5
Nc cheren 3/5 strike ex role

[low coral]

Probably, but you have to choose when to remove sand carefully

Since Mina only got two rains

[pallid badger]

Pity units for those who cannot clear UBs

[final yacht]

Do you really need defense crush

When the B move already lowers defense

[low coral]

It's cool for pacing

[snow spruce]

but I want it to be -6 after 3 turns, not after 6 turns

[low coral]

The other nodes aren't that big either

But I'm getting even higher numbers on Pomatools than I did on paper, idk if I did something wrong

[snow spruce]

its not even just the Atk - her defences, HP, speed and even SpAtk are all high lol
just ...

Theres even Soothing Sand

[low coral]

Her DPS is higher than NC Red's when with Steven / Adaman

Although her Sync is lower

[snow spruce]

Are you taking into account the potential +90% SyncUpNexts that she gets from attacking trapped? Although yeah for sync NC Red should be higher, he has so many multipliers and tech role
also is this NC Red by himself or with Irida (hail, ice zone, spdef debuffs) ?

[low coral]

Yes, 90%

[low coral]

Both at nearly their best (Chase / Irida for Red, -2 Rebuffs on both, Cynthia at +1 PMUN / +9 SyMUN, Red at +3 SMUN)

There are some gaps to consider, like Ice just getting more Sync moves out in comparison and Chase giving more Move Ups while I counted 0 for Ice, while Adaman hits a lot harder than Irida

[true lagoon]

can 1/5 ss hau and 3/5 exr’d sstr nc blue beat nita

or does he get eviscerated without weather change

[low coral]

No

[true lagoon]

does he need irida to clear

[low coral]

Who, SS Hau?

[true lagoon]

no i mean sst

since nita is ground focused

[low coral]

Irida is sure to work

[true lagoon]

he just dies if either sand or speed is raised right

[low coral]

I think Cheren + Morty could work as an alternative

[true lagoon]

i have neither :sadge:

[low coral]

I wouldn't rely on Tbolt for Nita

While he can win, it's probably his worst battle in the entire game

[true lagoon]

because hes prone to just exploding?

[low coral]

Considering even off-region EBEs never stopped him after 2 years lol

[snow spruce]

well there is also that Steven tanks MUCH better than Chase and such. Using NC blue or SSA Cynthia instead of Chase and the Ice dps goes down
but tbh I'm not so convinced about SC Adaman. On paper he is the best Ground partner for her. In practice he is way weaker and since she is so self-sufficient that you can just drop any uber-tier non-Ground dps in there
like ArcSteven + ArcCynthia + ArcLance/NC Cheren
they dont benefit from Ground zone, but their dps is so big that the overall team dps should be higher than with SC Adaman (I havent calced anything, just assuming)

Basically Cynthia needs another ground dps on her level, then the team would explode in damage

[low coral]

You're assuming wrong lol

Adaman's DPS is crazy high

Especially on a full DPS build

[true lagoon]

if i send my roster could we maybe try and theorycraft something

[low coral]

We can, but I won't guarantee we succeed since it's vs Nita lol

[true lagoon]

yeah nita is insane

[low coral]

With Steven / Cynthia, the only DPSes I'm finding higher than Adaman's are Cynthia's and Red's

[true lagoon]

never mind i think im good about not beating nita

[snow spruce]

His dps yes. But what about sync ? Using NC Cheren and especially ArcLance you have the super high ST sync nuke and Lance can also drop the Ash-like B-move bomb after words. There is no way SC Adaman move damage can keep up with that
its not like you HAVE to give Cynthia every sync. You can do support, then Cynthia and then 1 or 2 Cheren/Lance sync nukes, while she goes back to manual SS after dustkicker ends. The sides probbaly die after her 1 sync + change anyway
But those are just options. SC adaman will be fine. He is definitely better than Foxanne, since Cynthia already does everything that Foxanne does (trap, speed drops, def drops)

[low coral]

Well, I see you lack Irida and Cheren, so let's get the other big one removed: do you have NC Red?

[true lagoon]

i dont

so basically no hope

[low coral]

My man

Lance's sync is weaker

You don't have Zone

[snow spruce]

then what ?

no way

[low coral]

Cynthia's on that team

[snow spruce]

his sync is insane for ST

even without zone

Seriously?

[low coral]

0 SyMUN vs 9 SyMUN, yes

Besides, Cynthia syncing gives you your next rebuff and +2 PMUN

[snow spruce]

oh yeah that. Although after sides die it goes from 90 to 30

[low coral]

You don't want to let someone other than Cynthia sync

The hit is felt, but still not worth it

Just use Adaman

Lance's won't outdamage by that much even at +3

[snow spruce]

I was mostly theorycrafting, I will probaby leave my ArcLance at 1/5 anyway lol
for now its SC Adaman and maybe in the future there will be an even stronger Ground dps

[low coral]

Adaman does more than double his DPS I think

I think you're really underestimating Adaman's output lol

Like, you can complain he lacks utility

[true lagoon]

ok so if i dont have cheren red or irida i have very little chance of beating nita right

[low coral]

But it's very hard for Ground to powercreep his ST DPS

I'm not even using low HP Adaman

It's 99%

[snow spruce]

I have him at 2/5 but barely ever used him. I will use him more now heh

[low coral]

There's 70% locked behind grid

And also, his partners atm are bad

There's no rebuff, his Zone support is eh, there's no Master Passive, no extra PMUN

[snow spruce]

Offtype damage for Arc Cynthia 5/5 + SC Adaman 3/5 (Arc Steven as support):
-regular 3* Ground gear, 3 sync buffs, -2 rebuff, zone, SS, -6 defence, Adaman slightly below 100% hp and taking into account that Steven gives team +1 PMUN on his every attack and Adaman gives himself +1 PMUN on every attack .. so Cynthia is always at +1, Adaman is always at +2
-NOT counting the 4 PMUNs Cynthia gets every time she syncs .. with the 4 PMUNs Cynthias first attack after sync is 21,5M and then it goes back to 13M until the next sync
(enemy base defence is set at 83, which is UB values)

this is presumed with sides dead, so Cynthia is doing ST damage

[bright python]

So Latios UB is basically just Anahell's but easier?

[true lagoon]

ig

[jade marsh]

My guess is you weren’t accounting for theme skills in your manual calcs

PoMatools has her with strike themes rn cause we don’t know what multi does yet

[low coral]

I was, weirdly

Just messing some number all around

[jade marsh]

Odd

Yeah that was the only thing i’d thought you might’ve overlooked

[gritty vine]

what ebe are expecting the anni pairs?

[stone scarab]

I dont think there is one

[arctic bridge]

Hey iam trying to beat darach ( the bird extreme battle) and i copied one team, sync grids etc but even after watching the replay i dont even come close. my tyranitar just gets roasted by heatwave later in the fight.

i ran red& Pikachu, silver tyranitar and the sandstorm hippo

[charred dragon]

Can I get help with the "Take on Annabelle pt. 2" extreme challenge? I don't have tail scream.
These are my fairy units

[snow spruce]

@low coral holy crap you werent kidding - without Dragon Zone 5/5 Lances sync (with -3 rebuffs) is weaker than 5/5 Cynthias, when accounting for her 9 SyncUN
even with Dragon zone its not even x1.5 stronger
wtf

[stable storm]

Is this the third mf strike that basically has a tech level nuke?

Wait wrong chat my bad. Thought it was gen strat

[gentle wharf]

Wait what

[arctic bridge]

here is my Team

[snow spruce]

yup. Although this is with the 90% SyncUpNext that she gathers after attacking 3 trapped enemies 3 times
After sides dies it goes down to 30% total
but still - her sync is AoE and she has infinite W+Z and her main spammable move ALSO hits quite a lot harder than Lances GI/Hyperbeam
also stats:
Lance Atk = 439
Mega Cynthia Atk = 578

[stable storm]

pretty sure bertha requires ex for that clear

[arctic bridge]

did that! good catch ty

better this time but still

i will try again tmrw

[calm summit]

So basically if I just EX Bertha, I can beat the stage?

Using the f2p team

[calm summit]

I need to EX Bertha right?

For Annabel extreme battle

[rich heron]

I didn't see any ground type clear on Anabel extreme

[calm summit]

It’s not a ground clear, just used Bertha

[charred dragon]

I'm able to KO Annabelle, but her teammates take me out with one hit.

[valid raft]

Invest in your BP Valerie, EX her too

[charred dragon]

Really??

[valid raft]

She's the best one out of your damage dealers

SS Mina counters the hail weather

[charred dragon]

I never considered her because Grimsnarl does pretty great damage.

[valid raft]

All your other damage dealers are underinvesteed

[charred dragon]

How so? You mean because they're not 5/5?

[calm summit]

Could someone help me out with how to do the clear?

I watched the video but it’s hard to follow when it’s in Japanese

[valid raft]

3/5 at least

[valid raft]

Oh wait, Marnie is 3/5

My bad

[mighty plover]

which battle and team?

[charred dragon]

[valid raft]

I'm pretty sure the F2P team for Anabel

Sycamore/BP Valerie/Bertha

[mighty plover]

ahhh, a tough one

oh wow

do you have the units optimized and invested?

[valid raft]

What's your team here?

[calm summit]

Yeah I’m doing F2p against Annabel

[valid raft]

SS Mina and Lodge Lillie should counter all of the gimmicks except the accuracy debuffs

[calm summit]

I copied the grids from the document

[mighty plover]

and the lucky skills?

[calm summit]

Uhh nothing special I don’t think

I couldn’t read what they had

Idk how to translate a video

[charred dragon]

This is the team I did best with

[mighty plover]

CS2

[valid raft]

That team doesn't have an attack debuffer

[charred dragon]

Ahhh

[calm summit]

I have CS2 on BP Valerie and Vigilenve on the others

[charred dragon]

I could pick a unit like alt. Leon?

Or I have Valentine dawn

[mighty plover]

Ice Gaurd

Normal Gaurd

[calm summit]

Alright cool I’ll switch to those.

I appreciate u doing that for me

[mighty plover]

np ^^

[valid raft]

Lodge Lillie

[calm summit]

I don’t only sync with BP Valerie right?

[mighty plover]

i'd do whatever the video does

[valid raft]

Also Leon (Alt. 2) isn't boosted

[calm summit]

Aight I’ll try watching it closer. Just hard to see what they press

Thanks again

[mighty plover]

watch it at 0.5 speed or pause it every three moves

it's always the same move position on screen, even if you don't speak JPNs

[charred dragon]

Thanks for the help

I'll try those out

[calm summit]

This is going horribly

I’m doing exactly what video says

And my guys just get melted still :/

[mighty plover]

the comment section said that you need good skill gears too

[calm summit]

😦

I feel like I just EXd Bertha for nothing then

I’ll try to get better skill gear

This do suck tho

[charred dragon]

Haaaaa nope. ;/

The accuracy drop really is killer.

What waste of time 😂😂

[small basin]

Lillie isnt really doing anything there

[charred dragon]

Someone suggested her for reducing attack

[small basin]

With unfortuitous?

[charred dragon]

Yeah.

[small basin]

With the rate anabel buffs it that's just not worth it lol

[charred dragon]

It worked fair enough, but her buffs are too often

I couldn't think of a better unit

[small basin]

Try slotting in grusha

[charred dragon]

Hmmm what's the strat with him?

[small basin]

He can debuff -6 with his b move, just gotta use them wisely

He debuffs atk and sp atk so he can also help set up marnie's nuke quicker

And buffs defense on tm, he does also set ice zone in the process but you can overwrite it by syncing with mina

[charred dragon]

But doesn't ice zone help Annabelle?

Ah yeah

[small basin]

Yeah you just gotta time it right

Really you only have to use it once since mina will buff defenses with fairy zone and rain anyway

[charred dragon]

But I removed fairy kingdom on mina to replace it with more rain support. (Can't believe mina doesn't get MP restore for rain)

I'll give it a shot tomorrow. My hand hurts from trying tonight lol

[small basin]

You definitely want fairy kingdom for fairy zone uptime

[charred dragon]

Thanks for the tip

[valid raft]

When are you using Mina's B Move?

Because Mina's B Move restores your team's negative stats to normal

[valid raft]

Tell me, when are you using it?

[charred dragon]

I use it after their first sync

I'm not having any luck trying Grusha

I used the buddy move after my accuracy dropped to its lowest this time and did better. Maybe I'll keep trying.
When's the best time to use my two rain dances?

[stable tundra]

One on entry and one right after Anabel's sync

[charred dragon]

Yeah, that's what I was going for

Just gotta get the strat down I guess.

[valid raft]

Does Marnie have Acuity?

[charred dragon]

Cs2

[valid raft]

If you're having trouble because of the accuracy drops, then switch to Acuity

[charred dragon]

I'll give it another try tomorrow before switching

Would y'all suggest taking out the main first? Or the sides?

[paper mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOW4Es4w1p4
You can watch this. SS Mina + og Mina + SMarnie's clear.

[forest root]

Man, if only I had good units for the ultimate battles

[jaunty coral]

Idk if it's supposed to be hard or not but i did this with that team

[forest root]

Damn, nice work

[lunar sedge]

Oh

[keen spear]

what type of team beats cynthia? i have ss serena but i didnt do much

[bright python]

what do you have

[coarse lotus]

Cynthia is ruining me I fesr

fear

[keen spear]

uh

i also have some bp tickets if needed

3 5 star and 6 4 star

please ping me if you respond, i might not be on discord for a bit and sorry for the inconvenience

[thorny brook]

I hsve tried almost all my op units

Can i beat the blessing of a deity

[lunar sedge]

Aight woe piercing blows be upon ye

[timid hazel]

What the heck does this game want from you on challenge the strong? I can't see any way to do these. They take no damage.

[stable tundra]

they have specific gimmicks and you have to counter them. check the pins for stage info and example teams

[timid hazel]

I do the stuff so their defense aren't tripled but man they do a lot of damage and still don't take any

[mint swan]

No need those fancy arc pairs

[low coral]

We're already starting to get them

Vs Anabel

Darach

[snow spruce]

thats good and all but what about Nita

actually using Arc Cynthia on Nita is like - strongest playable Ground vs strongest NPC Ground
(and arguably even strongest player unit vs hardest stage)

[low coral]

Argenta

Still no Noland, Palmer, Nita, or Gio

Or Leon too

But I found this on Leon that I thought was cool, Mix Blue vs him

[warm haven]

Gibble carry

[rotund oasis]

wow mix blue gaming

wawit

its 5/5 too wtf

[low coral]

That's normal

If you have Mix Blue, it means you pull on the Mix Banner

And if you pull on the Mix Banner, Blue will come more than any other 5*

That was what, 4 months of Blue on the spotlight

[rotund oasis]

i stopped rolling in mix banner as soon as i hit 3/5 mix blue xD

(same for mix red)

i'm basicaally my first ever mix pity 293/300

[low coral]

Well, because you went on the Mix banner for the Mix unit

A lot of people go for everyone else as well

[rotund oasis]

its been pretty nice for non mix units

ss gio from 3 to 4 was itchy.

[cold widget]

what is the gimmick for challenge those blessed by a deity? my attacks started doing no damage and I don't know why

I'd also like to know where it has the information in-game

[rotund oasis]

need to stat debuff them i think.

[rich marsh]

Same gimmick as Latias and ultimate Entei

You need to use stat debuffs or they become immune to all damage

[lunar sedge]

Compared to Entei Latios just lacks the weather gimmick which already made it bit more accessible

[eternal yacht]

I'm trying to beat the Part 2 Anabel stage. I get close but lose. I'm using Penny 2/5 , SS Nemona 1/5 and Argenta 1/5 , any way to beat this or is this stage too difficult to beat for a new player.

[valid raft]

Why Argenta?

[stable tundra]

you don't have a weather changer

wait mb

[eternal yacht]

I use Nemona.

[stable tundra]

sorry i misread SS Nemona for OG Nemona

[eternal yacht]

For infinite pmun

[valid raft]

Still not a good enough reason

[stable tundra]

you should use a support with boosted stats

[eternal yacht]

Hmm alright let me see

Nope

My only other option is Mina

[thin canyon]

Regular mina?

[eternal yacht]

Oh and also , Defense And Speed too

[eternal yacht]

Yea unfortunately. I wish it was SS mina

Hmm I think if I adjust some things , it might be possible but I could be coping

[stable tundra]

can you show us both your Fairy and Paldea roster?

[eternal yacht]

SS Nemona , Penny , Mina , that's it

Oh and Sycamore

[stable tundra]

Sycamore then

[eternal yacht]

Hmm alright I'll give it a try , thanks!

Also who should tank the hit first , Sycamore or Penny

[stable tundra]

Sycamore, since his leeching is insane

[eternal yacht]

So I'll grid all the horn leech tiles?

[thin canyon]

Grid horn leech master healer

[eternal yacht]

Ok ty y'all

[snow spruce]

I'm guessing Arc Cynthia cannot do Anabel EBE part 2, but I think its only because she takes SE ice damage which is deadly without region multiplier.
without that it should have been doable, theres more than enough damage
you can try bringing a pair that can give her dmg guard, but I cant think of any good candidate

[pearl pewter]

poppy is the GOAT

[boreal abyss]

How is the arc Cynthia experience in UB

[young trellis]

Is Lucy okay

Weak to ground must be rough right now

[sacred sphinx]

Yoo

I beat Cynthia with Nate the goat

No one can ever make me not use King Nate

[high zephyr]

guys can AS Cynthia clear all ultimate battle? wondering if it is possible

[low coral]

Nita is the biggest roadblock, she might not do that one

But she should be able to win the rest with different partners

[boreal abyss]

Even thorton despite being ice weak?

[high zephyr]

hmm i see though in that sense i guess NC Red can do that too right?

[low coral]

NC Red can do them all, yes

[snow spruce]

with different teams sure. With 1 team unknown

[low coral]

She should be able to, Zerena can, Cynthia just needs a solid special attacker partner

[river prawn]

And Cynthia has solid defensive stats

Just like Zerena

[snow spruce]

Thorton will not kill her from full hp if he is debuffed and she is at +6 defence

[low coral]

So something like Steven / Cynthia / NC Red should be enough

[boreal abyss]

Wonderful

So yeah Nita is the roadblock

She should eat Latios for breakfast

[high zephyr]

i guess the best trio still SS red ash and NC blue so far, reapetedly see the same team on most UB

[low coral]

Ice can keep up with it, and Ground should be able to keep up

Nita just combines a hard UB with a bad matchup for Cynthia

But that's the same thing for Electric

[pliant cove]

any UB that 3/5 arc cynthia can clear?

[low coral]

Darach, Anabel, Lucy, Argenta

[snow spruce]

Best trio at what ? They are a very strong team, but not the best, especially not on anything that requires weather
I have had Ice team a bit above them since NC Red came out and ArcSteven+ArcCynthia maybe too, though that still remains to be seen

[low coral]

Probably more that needs testing, mine's still 1/5

[pliant cove]

Who's the most optimal pair that can support her? Mine is still havent clear on darach and argenta

[snow spruce]

Also technically Flying+Mina has cleared all UBs, but you probably cannot say that it is > Electric Kanto. Its not very reliable

[high zephyr]

what ice team is that? is it NC red and glaceon? i guess it is just in terms for UB in general because i keep seeing those team on any UB except for the ice weak one

[low coral]

Out of the released pairs, Aura Cynthia is pretty good, but since you lack Dust Kicker, you can also run Ingo or Rika

[snow spruce]

Yes Nc Red + Irida-Glaceon. They are very strong, only Wise Entry x3 really stops them
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1unwNqwt18yroGqlEpdcnvYBhpn7KdX-ZCD53vqiufzg/edit?gid=1190611733#gid=1190611733

[thorny brook]

Can my teams defeat blssed diety

[stable storm]

Huh, the battle those blessed by the deity took some more effort than I thought?is it supposed to be hard or do I have skill issue (I was using mina ss glad and ss hau)

[low coral]

Ice should, I think, but maybe swap Dana out

It is supposed to be harder than Battle Challenges, yes

[thorny brook]

Dana for who?

[low coral]

A better tank, maybe SS Mina

[thorny brook]

NC red N are 1/5

Tho

And no EX

Is it still workable?

[low coral]

Idk, but worth a shot

[rotund oasis]

2 syncs by NC Red 3R. Didnt even sync with NC Blue o.o just 2 flinches

presync too

[high zephyr]

ah i see there is the spreadsheet, rip i dont have irida

[hearty cedar]

Is it just me or does it seem like with max investment, steven + cynthia + bianca is the best team in the entire game?

[stable storm]

I also did a Nate clear after my fairy clear but iris didn't survive cuz no ex and Nate also died at the end. Rosa sleep chained the meta synced to kill it tho

[pearl pewter]

you will not be missed

[high zephyr]

is there like a doable free unit that can replace irida for nc red?

[pearl pewter]

bro got the nita treatment

[low coral]

I think it's just you, I don't see any particular justification for Bianca there

[hearty cedar]

Reliability

[low coral]

Feels like she would be a downgraded SS Lear at best

[hearty cedar]

Ok then ss lear it is

[stable storm]

scadaman over Bianca for stages that don't debuff you like crazy imo

scadaman dps is very high

[hearty cedar]

True

[low coral]

Hmm, I think Adaman's better, but more so due to Bianca not having a very defined niche there, as Adaman has some share of problems with Cynthia's lack of duration

But she'll face that in most teams

[hearty cedar]

5/5 is too much to ask tho

[thorny brook]

Mina got nuked by giga impact and died lol

[hearty cedar]

God damn you dena

[sacred sphinx]

Oh my Nate and CIris survived just fine

[stable storm]

What comp?

my ciris wasn't ex btw

[low coral]

As it's nearly impossible to get constant Zone + Sand syncs with Adaman, you'll be tied to the Sandstorm MP

[sacred sphinx]

NC Rosa, NC Nate and CIris

[stable storm]

pretty sure I didn't even grid her yet

[sacred sphinx]

I synced with Rosa first then with Nate

[stable storm]

so she died early and couldn't debuff

[sacred sphinx]

Nate's sync basically almost killed them

[snow spruce]

why would you use NC Bianca with Cynthia ? SC Adaman damage is >>
and steven already does all the debuffs that Bianca does .. and he flinches too

[sacred sphinx]

Did she die to sync?

[stable storm]

ah, I had less debuffs because I didn't grid her. That explains it

Yes

[sacred sphinx]

Mine's ungridded too, I just have DC2 on her

[stable storm]

Lear Steven seems like a really strong core to me. Wonder how many Ubs they could do

[sacred sphinx]

Spammed Breaking Swipe since they don't use any special moves

[stable storm]

oh I don't have dc2 on her

[sacred sphinx]

Ah

DC2 is really good on CIris

Double Drop gets procced whenever DC2 gets procced

[hearty cedar]

It was the "just in case" unit. Extra debuffing option when if steven is not attacking(which is a rarity) + circle on entry combined with ext5 to increase bulk, on demand rebuff that we can save till we want it like for argenta and lucy who refreshes them, sync ramping potential

[sacred sphinx]

Which is v nice

[stable storm]

I had anti toxin on her because of a rally run I was doing vs Lucy and forgot to change

[sacred sphinx]

Fair fair

[hearty cedar]

Also covers speed buffs that ropal raised a issue about few days ago

[snow spruce]

you shouldnt have any speed issues on Cynthia team. She has near 450 base speed and 2-bar attack
SC Adaman is speedy too and also has 2-bar

there is sands of time 2 too

[hearty cedar]

Ik lol

Just like I said, it was a "just in case" pick

Thought it'd be better to pick her over silver since I'm considering max invested cynthia

No need for extra sand extension

But yeah lear is better

[low coral]

Roadblocks are probably Nita and Leon

[hearty cedar]

Nita is just the worst

[stable storm]

I think they could do Nita with irida(copium)

[river prawn]

Leon clear perhaps with STate as the third

I think I will try that

oh wait you still need field nevermind

[low coral]

No, I think Irida might indeed be enough, it's just that you have to rely on the stage counter

[boreal abyss]

Extension 3 moment, does her weather zone last till her sync for some dust kicker synergy? Or does it run out before?

[low coral]

But considering it's Nita, sometimes even Irida isn't a free win

[hearty cedar]

If you have dust kicker, its infinite as long as you keep syncing with her

[river prawn]

Still, it should be one of the strongest 2 pair cores (Steven and Lear)

[boreal abyss]

So you can sync with sand and zone on?

[hearty cedar]

Yes

[boreal abyss]

At least that

[low coral]

Same for Leon if you run Tbolt Red, but again, it would be using the stage counter

[boreal abyss]

Yeah gonna commit to 5/5

[hearty cedar]

But be careful while using rosa

[stable storm]

what wtzers para other than sstr

[boreal abyss]

I won't no worries

I have other plans for cyn

[hearty cedar]

Ssac counts?

[low coral]

Generally you can't if you keep attacking with her

[boreal abyss]

Rough

[low coral]

You'll probably have to skip a Earthquake

[boreal abyss]

Gotcha

[hearty cedar]

Geeta is the 2nd best gimmick checker for leon ub

[stable storm]

oh right Geeta

could Steven Geeta Lear do Leon?

[hearty cedar]

They can ig

Bcuz lear counters their aoe sleep

[river prawn]

I think they have the damage

[low coral]

As long as Lear survives the Fire weakness and Geeta's Field stays up long enough

[pliant cove]

Tysm, i'll try this I do have A!Cyn 3/5 as well

[stable storm]

there's like 5 fields?

duration wise

[low coral]

5 fields but really long animations

[hearty cedar]

"Aura cynthia" mate its "arc cynthia"

[river prawn]

Lear brings CD so it's possible for sure

[hearty cedar]

You are still thinking of ssac

[low coral]

Because I am talking about Aura there lol

[hearty cedar]

Waaaait my bad, i read it wrong

[snow spruce]

if you have slow animations team + trap on center it might run out, might not.
if you dont have trap on center, I think its fine, infinite loop

[hearty cedar]

They really should have given her ext5

[boreal abyss]

Yeah

[hearty cedar]

This is a huge shaft

[snow spruce]

YEah, but DeNA moment

[hearty cedar]

Especially for 1/5 users

[boreal abyss]

And this is why Imma play Sand alert 5 Garchomp on her side lmfao

[hearty cedar]

I mean, you can literally run any unit that doesnt disrupt her sand alongside her so its fine

[snow spruce]

sand alert wont help ground zone sadly .. although since it sets after SS - it also runs out a few second later, right ? or not?

[boreal abyss]

No idea but at least sand multipliers for sync are on

If you wanna extend zone ig you go Rika

And you get a mix of both haha

[snow spruce]

yes Rika actually makes ground zone 100% infinite

[boreal abyss]

But yeah, sadge for ext 3

[low coral]

Zone does last very slightly longer than sand when it's set by Cynthia's passive

[snow spruce]

Good, it might just be enough to start the sync right before the previous zone ends
But really it depends on how long the other 2 pairs animations are and on how many trapped targets you have

also coping that Steven flinches help with this

[low coral]

I'm gonna be honest, idt most cases that will be the defining feature

I was struggling with that while using OG Cynthia and Aura Cynthia

[snow spruce]

I think I'm never gonna trap the center tbh

[low coral]

And those have fast animations

[cosmic token]

Well that wasn’t bad.

[high harbor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAIGNqJGueo Im trying this team, how tf OP got to use hop's buddy move and gloria's close combat b4 regigigas got to ancient power after hop synced?

[jaunty coral]

Why im i even trying lmao

[boreal abyss]

Yeah Nita is just a roadblock

Tho props to arc Cynthia surviving ahaha

[snow spruce]

Needs SS Mina

[fast pendant]

you're not trying with a proper team 'tho

at least try to deal with the gimmicks

[high harbor]

Im watching but I cant copy that moment, right after sync, he hits buddy move, then close combat after max, both b4 gigas's ancient power show up on the queue, HOW?

[low coral]

You're probably running Adrenaline on Hop

[fast pendant]

max moves stop the count and queue

same as sync

[low coral]

If a passive activates between the sync and the Max, it opens a window for enemy queue

Or Brawling Opening Sync

[high harbor]

true, I had adrenaline on hop

[jaunty coral]

This could work with a lot of investment i think

Mine is 2/5

[low coral]

Idk how you deal with Giovanni after 80%

[fast pendant]

why are you trying Bertha

[snow spruce]

that team cant beat Giovanni but with Arc Steven + SC Adaman you should be able to

[jaunty coral]

(i have never done this ebe before so i dont know what to do)

Ultimate battle*

[low coral]

Hmm, idt that works either

It might work if you go Oleana instead, in case you're avoiding a Snatcher or Hazer

[river prawn]

Fall Roxanne works pefectly for that

[snow spruce]

when I used Ice team/Cynthia - Irida and Aura Cynthia straight up tanked the buffed EQ just like that, no one died. And that was without +1 Ground rebuff
Giovanni i also flinchable by Arc Steven
Arc steven + Arc Cynthia + SC Adaman should be able to do all the same, but even better

[river prawn]

trigger the buffs, inverse them and block

[low coral]

Roxanne is good, yeah

[snow spruce]

worst case you go Foxanne yes

[high harbor]

I got to do it, now I just gotta keep retrying and pray for RNJesus

cuz the freaking sync and max move didnt crit

[low coral]

Ice team I think would have a more consistent output between the more powerful syncs and sync accelerations, as well as the freeze being guaranteed

I'm more worried about Giovanni syncing than Earthquake

Although Psystrike may be a threat too

[high harbor]

this will be much easier when I get hop to 3/5

[snow spruce]

Ice team should only have comparable dmg to the Ground team if you are using Chase IMO
with Cynthia like I did it - they should be behind the Ground team in dmg. Like SC Adamans ST damage is so much higher than Iridas Icy Wind, with steven he has +2 PMUN on EVERY attack
and yeah Stevens flinch isnt 100%, but 60% is good
also with Steven you have AoE Endures btw, Giovanni doesnt have PB, right ? only Palmer and Noland do
I would be surprised if that team (ArcCynthia - SC Adaman - ArcSteven) cannot beat Giovanni

(actually I entirely forgot that Cynthias ground zone buffs Gios EQ lol .. although AoE endure still helps with that)

[thorny brook]

Bruh

Why is my NC nate doing 0 dmg to cynthia

Like 0 dmg

Not little

0

[river prawn]

Fluid fortification

you need to debuff

[thorny brook]

Shoot

Wrong timing

But it did 0

I alr debuffed it

Twice

[low coral]

No you didn't

[thorny brook]

Oh debuff not rebuff

Im blind

My bad

[left crow]

YES

That was fun!

[thorny brook]

Is NC blue or rosa better in this spot

Both are EX 1/5

[left crow]

Nc blue

You want constant debuff

[quaint moss]

Are there teams for the ultimate battles that make it easier then others? I am trying some teams but even tho i am following the video it seems smnthg goes wrong somewhere :'')

[rich heron]

Is this battle difficult

[thorny brook]

No u can beat it with barry and empoleon

[rich heron]

[thorny brook]

Nate dies 2 first sync

Am i cooked

LETS GOOOO

Lfg

[high harbor]

I used lucian, zerena and nc rosa

[hearty cedar]

Too easy

(Yes my 1st attempt was with nate)

[true lagoon]

this fuck ass stage crit dragapult with my sync and i lose because i lose all my gauge

wouldve won if not for that

[hearty cedar]

If lance wasnt so comically broken I'd have skipped him but now I really hope I get him

[shrewd marten]

Why does this convince u to go for lance when Nate’s doing just fine?

[true lagoon]

bro fuck this

[wary hemlock]

i wonder if anyone can clear nita with arc cynthia

[hearty cedar]

Lance improves nate even more. Lance takes bianca's spot btw

[river prawn]

I didn't know this stage is hard, I cleared it with Leonalt no struggles

[wary hemlock]

this really needed fall roxanne

[shrewd marten]

O

[true lagoon]

i guess i just need to buff defense then

ccalem sucking ass once again cuz 0 reliable def buff

awesome!

[shrewd marten]

I mean yeah

[river prawn]

I used SS Acerola

[hearty cedar]

Current nate's best team:- rosa, nate, bianca

Future nate's best team;- rosa, nate, lance

[shrewd marten]

Ccalem isn’t good unless ur speed clearing

That’s how it’s always been

[true lagoon]

well that was the idea

but the sides still do like 300 damage like tf

[shrewd marten]

Dodge it

:3

[true lagoon]

also cynthia has to have some hidden crit rate

[hearty cedar]

They do that much dmg?

Even tho calem has kalos pride?

[true lagoon]

without defense buffs yes

what does down to earth do exactly

[hearty cedar]

Steven is in 2 resets right?

[mighty plover]

no clears for the new UB hmm

this community really fell off

[hearty cedar]

Just like the gemcount

[lean trench]

I wonder if anyone can clear Arc Cynthia with Nita

[hearty cedar]

Time to try

[true lagoon]

ok wait what does down to earth do

is it guaranteed crits in zone or is my rng just that awful

[wary hemlock]

oh its out already?

[mighty plover]

no

[true lagoon]

i think thats the joke yeah

[mighty plover]

[river prawn]

Is Evelyn UB flinchable

[low coral]

Yes

[balmy jolt]

do i got a way to beat the arceus blessed trio.. i need those gems BAD im so close to pity

[true lagoon]

“do i have a way”

you have like 15

[balmy jolt]

why do you think im asking..

i tried like three times and failed

[mighty plover]

with what team

[hearty cedar]

No defense drops, no flinch

[balmy jolt]

tried using the one on top,, calem being the bus driver bc i wanted to set up zone so cynthia couldnt get hers

[hearty cedar]

Used mini potion to save gauge which I shouldn't have

[true lagoon]

if you want the easiest solution get a good dps with piercing blows and win

[balmy jolt]

and the frog duo +nc marnie

[balmy jolt]

only ones i see that i have its ss n and cinderace gloria,,, which one would be better

[mighty plover]

EZ

[fading walrus]

I used an auto team for that battle

[boreal abyss]

Might consider trying some arc Cynthia fun stuff Vs Nita with a proper off type team

[fading walrus]

Og Leon, 1/5 dragapult, 2/5 Morty lol

[boreal abyss]

I think I have got a pretty cool idea

Just wanna make sure it's not too much overkill tho

[fading walrus]

Have fun with that sand hp regenn...

[boreal abyss]

Nono, no sand

We going sun