Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles

[marble portal]

Like...is there any reason I can't use someone like NC Rosa?

[paper mural]

Bc it's a f2p/genpool only clear?

[stable tundra]

NC Rosa has a problem with her B Move eating up field effect time

[marble portal]

Ah, makes sense.

I was not sure if Leaf had a specific purpose or if it was a "yeah I aint using limiteds" run.

[stable tundra]

i hope your Sycamore is actually 5/5

for 2 Alola, try Evelyn or 3/5 BP Clemont, Olivia and BP Olivia

you can also try NC Rosa with her well timed Sing to shut down Healthy Advantage in right moments

[quick dove]

it is

i actually just did it with the two olivias and sophocles with flinch spam zing zap

thanks

[stable tundra]

[stable tundra]

have you done with 2 Rocks?

[sturdy ore]

Gakon, thankyou so much, finally won with this team

[stable tundra]

oh congrats

for Alola, your best bet is Selene and Plumeria, use the same strategy with SS Cyrus

wait, do you have at least a 4* strike candy for Hau/

[sturdy ore]

i finally understand spamming dark void titerally i only clock dark void and let roxanne and brock idle until his sync move hahaha

i can 4/5 him

[stable tundra]

3/5 is enough

grid him with Inertia and X SpAtk MPR

you want to do triple queue even with Cyrus to reach sync faster

both Plumeria and Hau are very gauge friendly, especially when Plumeria is at +4 speed and above

[sturdy ore]

noted

i always do triple queue actually

thats the reason i cant win previously

[stable tundra]

[sturdy ore]

hahaha

[stable tundra]

well with Cyrus you can still triple queue

must have been timing issue

[sturdy ore]

i see

noted

let me try

do i need to grid Plumerria or lucky skill

[stable tundra]

no need to, she is fine as she is now

reset immediately when one of the enemies gets poisoned or paralyzed

[sturdy ore]

alright so Darkrai is the one who do sync ? or Hau

[stable tundra]

always Hau

[sturdy ore]

Alright noted

CS2 for Hau ?

or no need

[stable tundra]

it doesn't matter, since Hau doesn't have crit buffs

[sturdy ore]

alright

Plumerria kinda risky

his 3 move gauge move has 10% poison chance

[stable tundra]

you don't use her Sludge Wave

[sturdy ore]

but his 1 move gauge has 40% percent

[stable tundra]

don't move with her then

her job is generating gauge thanks to her speed buffs + insane speed stat

[sturdy ore]

ahh noted

after her tm i just switch with hau and darkrai yea ?

or after hau also used up his TM, i stopped him and focus only darkrai

[stable tundra]

use all Hau's TMs

he needs speed buffs to activate Inertia

[sturdy ore]

enemy still be able to sync

i keep spamming dark void

[stable tundra]

try again

keeps spamming Dark Void and Hau's move to reach sync faster

[sturdy ore]

alright

[sturdy ore]

this is the furthest i manage before he sync

got 4 sync in

[stable tundra]

can you record your gameplay?

[sturdy ore]

i finally won

thanks gakon

[stable tundra]

[sturdy ore]

i change plumeria to primarina and it works well with spamming sing

[calm summit]

imma be trying ultimate battles today

[uncut drum]

How quickly Giovanni buffs himself? Since I think to use Summer Acerola on him to counter it and allow Zinnia to use her B-move later

Thinking to use a team of Zinnia-Acerola-Akari

[valid raft]

They have Team Hype Up and Flag Bearer at once, so they buff 2 stats at once every turn. Giovanni has a passive that increases his team's 5 basic stats by 2 every time he syncs. He also has that old TM that does a 12 stat buff or smth. like that

[final yacht]

You dont want him to sync more than once lol
Once is already a lot of trouble

[uncut drum]

Acerola debuffs both offensive stats by 2 every time she's hit

And sets up Zinnia for her nuke

So buffing 2 random stats isn't that bad

Oh and Zinnia can steal his buffs and he's about as strong as Darach after mega

Unless I'm missing something

[low coral]

Acerola won't really be that good here

Her debuffs are far too slow

And The Ultimate Power throws away the progress you had made

I think it's extremely hard to deal with the TM in general

Unless the UB behavior change is exactly about that

Where move 4 and 5 aren't used on the same spots as before

[silver spruce]

I suspect nc blue and classic elesa will be a decent core to carry Akari

[valid raft]

And how to deal with the accuracy buff if Giovanni syncs?

[calm summit]

i just watched the darch video of NC blue, volkner, and SST Red. I dont really need to EX volkner right? the vid never synced with him once

[valid raft]

Volkner is just there as an extra ET setter for Red most likely

[silver spruce]

You’d give him the accuracy buffs and debuffs all other stats

[calm summit]

alright cool thanks

also do u think skill gear matters too much?

i have everything the same as the video, besides skill gear i think

also, just did a run and SST red got 1 tapped at one point (terrain was up and everything was normal)

is that just unlucky?

wait im dumb nvm. i had sst being targeted and didnt realize lmao

hmmm SST still getting 1 tapped sometimes

and now zapdos got 1 tapped by a sync when at 100% health

[velvet raven]

which battle?

[calm summit]

darach

[velvet raven]

what team are you using

[calm summit]

SST red, Volkner, Zapdos

i have the same sync grid, and lucky skills, and skill gear as the video used

just dont have volkner EXd which shouldnt matter

and i always have a terrain up

[velvet raven]

so your blue is 2/5?

[calm summit]

3/5 yeah

[velvet raven]

oh

alr

[calm summit]

sst 3/5, volkner 5/5

[velvet raven]

im looking through the document and it shows 2/5 being used

[dim inlet]

3/5 nc blue is like used in all UBs

He’s just that good

[calm summit]

yeah i mean 3/5 should be better than 2/5

[velvet raven]

ah

because when you said you had sync grids copied i wasnt sure if that included nc blue or not lol

[warm haven]

anybody has elio, 3/5 silver and 5/5 paulo to beat noland?

[calm summit]

ah nah, i didnt like copy paste i just selected all grids manually

[dim inlet]

Some grids legit makes the difference between win or lose

Depending on the UB

[velvet raven]

wait

[calm summit]

thats not the sync grid from the document so no

[velvet raven]

yeah

send a pic of the grid ur using atm

[calm summit]

the one im looking at has a lucky skill of ice guard

aight

[velvet raven]

is Blue or SST Red EXR?

[calm summit]

neither are, but thought document said i didnt need it

[velvet raven]

so you have a 3/5 nc blue but are running a 2/5 grid?

[calm summit]

That’s my grid^

Thats where I got it from

[velvet raven]

ok but if you have a 3/5 NC Blue the run will be easier if you run a 3/5 NC blue grid

try running this

or if you have +6, this

[calm summit]

That has a lot of things the other grid didn’t tho. Still okay?

[velvet raven]

the other grid has a lot of things it doesnt need

[calm summit]

Everything goes well with the run, I just get randomly 1 tapped. I’ll try ur grid and get back to u

[velvet raven]

wait

does nc blue get 1 tapped?

[calm summit]

Yeah

At full health

From a sync I think it was I forget

[velvet raven]

gotcha

[velvet raven]

how about skill gears?

[calm summit]

im using the electric ones

they used em too

[velvet raven]

gotcha, just being sure

[calm summit]

yeah appreciate it

gonna try now with new grid

[velvet raven]

wait

1 last thing

[calm summit]

lol whats up

[velvet raven]

is ice guard there for a specific purpose? i dont remember dararch using any ice moves

[calm summit]

honestly dont know, i think there might be an ice move that does massive damage

[velvet raven]

does zapdos have a giant ! in the battle to indicate the opponent has a super effective move?

[calm summit]

i thought it was weird too, but iam always told to not question the strat

no he doesnt

[velvet raven]

yeah i think ice guard is useless

[calm summit]

why is it in the document

[velvet raven]

probably to show that it doesnt need it maybe? no clue

[velvet raven]

run this grid here

if it isnt already +6

and make it use vigilance as a lucky skill

[calm summit]

and then throw on vigilance?

aight

[velvet raven]

you got it

[calm summit]

wonder why zapdos doesnt get 1 tapped in the video with ice guard

[velvet raven]

how many attempts have you done?

[calm summit]

only a few

like 3-4

[velvet raven]

which sync kills you?

1st, 2nd, 3rd? etc

[calm summit]

i have them about 34-48% health i believe

so like 3rd maybe

or 4th prob

ill check this run

[velvet raven]

yeah im watching the vid and sync takes a lot of his hp

but he doesnt faint

might have to deal with your accumulated sync buffs? not sure

[calm summit]

yeah i straight up remember i used the healing move, got full HP then got 1 tapped lol

in middle of a run now

[velvet raven]

alr gl, lmk how it goes

[calm summit]

that run health wise was much better, i just didnt get any MPR refreshes on terrain so gotta try again

run seems promising now

SSTR got 1 tapped outta nowhere when i had them on 58% health

think it was their 4th-5th sync

[velvet raven]

your teams or the opponents team?

[calm summit]

opponent

[velvet raven]

well according to the video, they beat the stage after their opponents second sync

[calm summit]

bro what....

i gotta rewatch then

maybe it was the 3rd sync but still

[velvet raven]

when do you knock out the sides? and how lucky are you with thunder fang flinches?

[calm summit]

do i just need RNG with flinch>

?

maybe im not that lucky with thung fang flinches, ill look for that more

sides are knocked out my second sync turn maybe

Aight

So at this point I take out sides, and their next sync 1 taps SST red

im 3 syncs in at this point (first with NC blue, 2 with SST Red)

[velvet raven]

so which sync is that for the opponent?

[velvet raven]

1st or 2nd?

[calm summit]

Their second

[velvet raven]

so this is the videos 2nd sync

is just SST Red dying? you could just give it flying guard

[calm summit]

Yeah only SSTR is dying

Maybe I’ll try that

So confused what I’m doing wrong. Like I have everything the video has lmao

[velvet raven]

well the video has 5 sync buffs while you have 4 sync buffs

[calm summit]

Do I need to be flinching like every other time?

[velvet raven]

not sure if that makes such huge of a difference though

[velvet raven]

your opponent has a lot more hp left than the video guide too

[calm summit]

Yeah idk why either

Imma like slow mow the video to .5 and try to do every single thing the same

The odds of me hitting consistent flinches is so low. Like a 10% chance?

[velvet raven]

volkner has this

so its actually like 50% or something

[calm summit]

Ahh alright

I just have horrible luck then

[velvet raven]

just to be sure, whats your rock roster?

some of the runs substituted Volkner for a rock pair

[calm summit]

I’ll show my rock roster

Figured volkner was just mainly for helping keep terrain up

[velvet raven]

yeah

btw

having SST Red caked is a great investment

[calm summit]

Rock roster is bad

[velvet raven]

ah yeah rip

elio and diantha are good its just that they lack utility at 1/5

[velvet raven]

especially for battle rally

[calm summit]

Yeahh if I used SS diantha more I would use candies

[velvet raven]

same with NC Blue

[calm summit]

I’ll try to get a cake on NC blue or SST

[velvet raven]

SST Red is the most impactful

[calm summit]

Who would u prioritize

Aight

I think I can get a cake rn

Yeah giving field rn

[velvet raven]

nice

[calm summit]

Fuck me

It was going well. I had 4 syncs before they had 2, but then SSTR got 1 tapped from 2nd sync

Gonna try flying guard

[velvet raven]

👍

[calm summit]

All this for 300 gems

…

I found out why they are getting 1 tapped

I thought I switched out my lucky skill for vigilance. But apparently not 💀

[velvet raven]

does the sync always crit?

if not then it shouldnt have changed anything

maybe try again with vigilance 1 more time and if it doesnt work then do flying guard

[calm summit]

idk if it was a crit, but like volkner and zapdos are chillin after the synx

I FUCKING DID IT

[velvet raven]

W

[calm summit]

yo swift greeninja. I really appreciate u

[velvet raven]

yeah np man happy to help

[calm summit]

U know why sometimes it said “staraptor or won’t flinch?”

[velvet raven]

because after it flinches a condition shield appears on it

[calm summit]

Ahh okay

How many turns does that last

[velvet raven]

hmm

lemme check the glossary

[calm summit]

If it’s a hassle it’s all good

More so just curious

[velvet raven]

i think like 45 seconds not sure

[calm summit]

Gotchu thanks

[velvet raven]

off the top of my head

so 15 seconds 3x speed

which sounds about right

[calm summit]

And u think I can just run this team on every U

U

UB**

I’ll check the spreadsheet but I assume this team is universal

[velvet raven]

Blue / Red /Ash is usually run on all UBs

I don’t think Volkner is a good replacement for ash

[calm summit]

Gotchu

I’ll prob have to put max conductivity on SST red grid if replacing volkner

[velvet raven]

Makes sense

[paper mural]

The others they could clear is Leon and prob Lucy.
Every others seem impossible to them,

[calm summit]

For SST red ash mc blue?

NC*

[paper mural]

No. Blue/Red/Volkner.

[calm summit]

Ah alright

[paper mural]

Currently UBs Blue/Red/Ash can't clear are Anabel, Argenta and Nita bc they need weather change.

[snow spruce]

you can clear most UBs with Zapdos-Ash-SST Red, but not all. They're good, but there're at least ~3 teams better than them specifically for UBs, maybe 4-5
a lot of that is because SS Mina is the best UB support
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1unwNqwt18yroGqlEpdcnvYBhpn7KdX-ZCD53vqiufzg/edit?gid=1190611733#gid=1190611733

[calm summit]

Alright makes sense. Appreciate it. I’m guessing NC red is a good one for the weather change stages

I’ll prob be doing them after my dentist

[calm summit]

bout to do noland UB with SST red, ash and NC blue, how needed is EX R on nc blue?

I only have one strike cake so I wanna use it wisely

Also, they don’t have a grid for SST red. Any suggestions?

[calm summit]

Found their grid for em

[uncut drum]

For Noland you can use any good damage dealer with Lana and someone with Fly

So like, Ash, Falkner and Lana will destroy him

[calm summit]

i think i have lana, i forget who they are

[mental jasper]

gen pool araquanid

[calm summit]

oh yeah i have em

[uncut drum]

Lana is the best here surprisngly

She has 60% for wide guard mpr

[calm summit]

dont i have to EX them and stuff, i was hoping i could just use rats with zapdos so i dont have to do extra stuff

ill check out a lana run, thanks

[uncut drum]

Well if you want rats + zapdos you can check the doc for grid and video

[mental jasper]

lana just needs to get wide guard mpr

[calm summit]

i did

thats what i sent above

[stone scarab]

with Red and Ash she doesnt even need wide guard MPR tbh, my run managed without it

[mental jasper]

wait... does rats tank with ash for Noland

[calm summit]

thats why i was asking if NC blue needed EX R

[stone scarab]

yes

[uncut drum]

Ash can tank twice so yeah

[uncut drum]

Blue doesn't need it

[shrewd marten]

I used ncblue as the tank

[mental jasper]

yeah blue only benefits from exr due to aoe rebuff which is not needed

[calm summit]

lets goooo beat it on second try

alright thanks for advice, glad i dont have to give him strike cake roll

palmer seems hard, tryin that now

I see a lot of runs with Riley, what’s so good about them? I’ve been ignoring that pair

[mental jasper]

literally just a low-investment ontype damage source with sprint EX to help with damage race

[calm summit]

Gotcha. So are they that good outside of UB?

[mental jasper]

if you have better damage options not really no

[calm summit]

aight, tim eto struggle to get 3 head start 1s

can i use adrenaline 1 instead of head start 1 for NC blue agaisnt palmer?

[mental jasper]

I'd be hesitant to say yes to that because Palmer is a damage race

[calm summit]

yeah palmer seems rough

just so hard to get head start 1

only have like 30 of those cookies

[mental jasper]

not having 3 head start 1 means you don't shave a cycle to first sync

you also need to hit every quadqueue for rats to clear

[calm summit]

gotcha

[uncut drum]

Palmer can be done with the rats

Watch the video for turn order

[calm summit]

yeah but i guess i need head start 1 on every pair

[uncut drum]

I don't think you need

[calm summit]

the vid had it so idk

[uncut drum]

I didn't do it with HS1 and my Red is 1/5

[calm summit]

hmm

alright ill try without

i just got headstart 1 for atleast one of my pairs

[uncut drum]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=002103014500&s0=3&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=18046402&t0=44444&x0=true&g0=&v1=000002002500&s1=3&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=44444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFBggLDRAdICMlKSwt&v2=026400002500&s2=3&l2=150&r2=6&p2=0&a2=13010602&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFBgkMDxEUFRcaHyIlJi4v

Try this

[calm summit]

was just boutta say, idk how u killed him before max move, without head start 1. Ill check ur link

[calm summit]

i cant find mind games 2 cookie

[uncut drum]

It's a deluxe cookie

The bronze one

But if you don't have it you can give Blue pretty much anything else

[calm summit]

i dont have any :/

aight, so adrenaline 1 or vigilance is fine

maybe adrenaline 1 since i sync with them first

[uncut drum]

Vigilance is worthless on Palmer

[calm summit]

gotchu

gonna try the run again

[uncut drum]

You probably should go to immediately use max move

With max conductivity you set terrain right there

[calm summit]

yeah ive been doing that

i cant seem to kill em before they max move

i got them to 30% health

[uncut drum]

You need mpr with Blue so you then snipe Palmer with Ash's B-move

[calm summit]

yeah i used mpr, move did 220k

ill try again, i missed a quad queue so that could have been it

[uncut drum]

https://youtu.be/8NgKOXaUq_o?si=IwQZVnAUJ1IBDX3d

Watch this closely

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=002103014500&s0=3&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=13010602&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFBggLDQ4QERIVJScqLQ&v1=026400002500&s1=3&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFDA8XGhseHyIoKy4v&v2=000002002500&s2=3&l2=150&r2=6&p2=0&a2=13010602&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFGB0gIyUpKywtLw

[calm summit]

ill watch and try in a second thank you!

[calm summit]

if i dont quad queue every single sync, shopuld i just restart

ayyy i did it, appreciate the help g hype

[calm summit]

Got 4 UBs done today not shabby

[true lagoon]

kukui olivia kiawe should probably be able to clear

[quick dove]

ah, thanks

[tacit hatch]

does the battle challenge have wise entry x2

oh scrolled up looks like just mid ?

hm what's better 1/5 Emmet EXR or non EX 3/5 kukui or olivia

[stable tundra]

Kukui + Olivia + a support can do both missions at once

[stoic lake]

good news, 1/5 NC Silver, 1/5 Elio (Alt.), and 3/5 DC Nemona can clear Darach lol

[rotund oasis]

waait. 3/5? D:

[stoic lake]

probably less honestly

but i just got her 3/5 so i wanted to try lol

and its a f2p unit so it wont need candies obv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=681ugq0MYc0

first attempt and my first time using elio so it was a little sloppy lol

[stable storm]

4 days

[magic sundial]

is there any team in can make to beat any of the UBs? (i’ve already beaten Palmer and Lucy)

[stoic lake]

1/5 NCheren can clear noland pretty easily

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J_Wf9t4ZIOMwdlYEsIzgENDdYCut-AEX0pJiwbcIrVY/edit?gid=853536673#gid=853536673

[fading walrus]

You have Lana + Shauna so yeah

[stoic lake]

and palmer probably

[fading walrus]

Any good enough DPS unit can Noland clear with those two

[magic sundial]

ive beaten palmer already

and lucy

[fading walrus]

3/5 tbolt should also make Leon doable

[magic sundial]

also i WOULD check the teams for noland if the google doc wasnt being so annoying on my phone

i cant see any teams past the lucy stage

[stoic lake]

lmao no problem

[fading walrus]

I can attest to Google doc sucking on phone

[stoic lake]

you have SS Diantha, which is made for Darach's UB

[magic sundial]

no matter how hard i try i just cant beat darach

ive tried so many teams

[stoic lake]

i did my first darach with ss acerola, nc silver and geeta lol

[fading walrus]

To be fair Geeta and silver fucking nuke Darach

[magic sundial]

is that. 5/5 ss diantha on most of yhise

[fading walrus]

Lol

[magic sundial]

ok so Geeta as one of the team members, got it

[fading walrus]

You see move levels on right

[stoic lake]

yes, but theres also 1/5 SS Diantha with SSA Cynthia, which you do have

[fading walrus]

She's 1/5 on 2/5 teams

[stoic lake]

Bertha, Geeta, and NC Silver is a funny team that works lol

butmy nc silver is still 1/5 so i made due

elio let me do a 0 candy clear though which is always fun

oh heres the geeta and ssa cynthia clear

[stoic lake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWymSxmZTSo

video if you need it

[magic sundial]

Team Girlboss wins!!!!!!

[magic sundial]

?

[fading walrus]

Yeah just copy when yo wide guard or protect with Shauna /lana

[loud adder]

How bad/good is Giovanni's UB looking to y'all? Is it gonna need any specific units?

[low coral]

It's looking to be kinda crazy

Unless the behavior change they mentioned on the last message means the turn order is different from what's usually datamined

You need some VERY efficient way to stop his offensive buffs

As his post-1st Sync TM gives an AoE +12 Attack +12 SpA +2 crit

And he gets a 90% boost to both DPS and Sync when he has any amount of Attack buffs (and a duplicate one for SpA)

Also the 2nd bulkiest UB, only behind Anabel

[warm haven]

and has 2 endueres

[loud adder]

Cerena Strikes Back

I'm hoping I can make due with double Moltres and a support tho.

Maybe if I candy and cake my Marnie.

[fading walrus]

Good luck bringing down +6 stats with moltres

[slate light]

need

[valid onyx]

What's Giovanni UB weakness?

Psychic?

[final yacht]

Dark

[valid onyx]

Ahhhh

Sad I don't have a good dark striker

[exotic dome]

Fall Roxanne /Brycen man / sczinnia / SsKorinna

My wildcards

My only worry about sczinnia is that her block doesn’t last long enough

To demolish him

[slate light]

time it for just before his sync and it should (hopefully) be fine

if that's not enough i can swap in nc blue for funny offense debuffs

[exotic dome]

He also has good form

And earthquake

But I’m really thinking of a weird combo of fall Roxanne and ncmarnie where Roxanne syncs constantly to revert all the buffs into debuffs

[solar stirrup]

whats the chances nc marnie does good dmg?

[exotic dome]

She’s a striker master fair ontype

[gentle wharf]

Wait Fall Roxanne reverses buffs?

[silver spruce]

On sync yeah

Marnie I suspect may not have the raw sync damage needed to solo strike. May want a tech nuke while she goes for sides

[stable storm]

at least it's not pre sync so it's not an insta kill

[verbal pawn]

Any suggestions on this?

I am close to beat him after several rerolls!

I am using this grid for Rei!

I don't have SSA Cynthia, NC Bianca or NC Hop!

I did one sync with NC Rosa and two syncs with Rei!

Redlax is for SEUN!

[stable tundra]

how about skill gears?

[stable tundra]

yeah you need better gears then

[verbal pawn]

Oh I don't have! Maybe I will wait then for future!

[valid onyx]

Is any of my support usable to be used against UB Palmer?

Y̶e̶a̶h̶ ̶I̶ ̶k̶n̶o̶w̶ ̶i̶t̶'̶s̶ ̶m̶o̶s̶t̶l̶y̶ ̶f̶2̶p̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶s̶a̶k̶s̶ ̶

[stable tundra]

Have you checked the pinned doc? You might see clears you can replicate there

[valid onyx]

Yeah I have trouble scrolling it on phone for some reason 🥲🥲

[verbal pawn]

If you are opening it in browser maybe try Google sheet!

[valid onyx]

Okay, thanks for the help! xD

[thin canyon]

Would a team of
Ss mina (5/5) nc bianca(3/5 with support role ex) and dahlia (3/5 and strike role ex) be able to beat anabel ub

Also could team of
Nc rosa (3/5 sprint role ex) nc red (3/5 tech role ex) and nc bianca (3/5 support role ex) beat thorton ub

[fast pendant]

Yes and yes

[pliant jewel]

any selene ub vids?

[valid raft]

Most SC Selene

[low coral]

@snow spruce as you had asked, the screenshot of Red / Irida / Chase pre-sync vs Thorton

The other missing one was a Argenta screenshot, right?

[snow spruce]

Yup. Only need Argenta still

[low coral]

Actually, are videos prefered?

It just got into the replays, so I can record it

[snow spruce]

Videos are preferred of course

[snow spruce]

@low coral I checked and dont see the Irida-Red-Chase replay among Argenta teams. Does it show for you ?
either way if there's no video then a screenshot is fine too

[low coral]

Oh, I meant the Thorton one

I didn't do the Argenta one yet

[snow spruce]

K
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1unwNqwt18yroGqlEpdcnvYBhpn7KdX-ZCD53vqiufzg/edit?gid=1190611733#gid=1190611733
I also added Irida-Red-NC Blue team, because why not. It has a bunch of clears, but not all
for Irida-Red-Blue I'm missing (if you have any - feel free to link/ping):

• Thorton - never seen it. Probably possible, but difficult-ish
• Noland - never seen it. It should be doable, at worst NC Red can survive the 10 PMUN EQ with his own Protect I guess
• Palmer - also never seen it and I dont think this one is possible, as all existing Irida-Red Palmer clears either use a Sprint Support, or a crit shield support (aka SS Mina). Blue lacks both, so I dont think its doable. And Palmer is not flinchable either

[low coral]

There's Selene / Elio / Chase vs Palmer

It's in-game, it's a pretty cool one

Especially as this was their situation when Palmer was at 1 countdown

121k AoE Sync into 215k Meteor Beam into 180k Meteor Beam

[final yacht]

What triple circle + rock zone + spmun stacks does to power creep

[pliant jewel]

How much was that last attack? 180k?

[low coral]

Yes

The Meteor Beam before it was 215k

[low coral]

Just wait until Sygna Suit Olivia with Rock rebuff

[mental jasper]

the roommates shredded Palmer?

[low coral]

I was even talking with Rion earlier, people keep talking about Nemona's future potential

But I unironically think Selene's potential is higher

She just doesn't have the obvious teammates candidates like the paradoxes for Nemona

[final yacht]

I really need more zone units

Looks like a fun gimmick but I literally only have 1

[low coral]

Like, with the right teammate added, Selene is someone to rival Cheren and Red

[final yacht]

We're still lacking a Terrakion

Also support Arceus with on type rebuff, EX Field and circle

[clever widget]

BP Morgan will have Rock Zone and Circle

[shrewd marten]

I didn’t realize nemona was in competition at all

She looks so whelming

Like sure she has pmun but that can’t be it can it

[final yacht]

Sorry, both rock and fighting teamwork are already used

She's getting grass virizion

[snow spruce]

I didnt like SS Nemonas kit too much either. SS Gladion better IMO.
Though some perfect future teammate could change that.

Selena and Elio really do a lot of damage together, but its quite reliant on circles being up (bad for long fights) + its mostly just raw damage, kinda lacking versatility (Selene can do poison = status, but thats it)
Also Elio cannot buff teammates defences at all, I think
But their damage together IS real good.

[low coral]

Dragon Latias was also a candidate iirc

But I think they're doing MC Regidrago for Dragon

[final yacht]

True it could be dragon latias

[shrewd marten]

I got pingused

[mental jasper]

100% agree with this, basically my exact read of this month tbh
we will ignore Arven who will forever have a place both in my heart and in mediocrity

[low coral]

SS Nemona I'm trying to be optimistic, but I think she'll disappoint in the end out of field durations

[final yacht]

Cant be worse than my best fairy DPS (pal serena)

[stone scarab]

i mean she won't be bad

i just dont think she'll be as good as people want

[silver spruce]

I’m honestly more excited for arven than I am nemona

[snow spruce]

I am excited to save my gems for anni and September

[silver spruce]

Articuno and arven are draining my gems this month

[shrewd marten]

Pain

I’m excited for none of them honestly

But I’ll get arven out of obligation

And like

I like nemonas jacket

[pliant jewel]

Interestingly, this was the only support duo single dps in the top 10.

[orchid bridge]

lol, imagine if we get a circle support that has unlimited circle plus extensions like the Tapus did. Selene stocks would go super high.

[pliant jewel]

Hoping for some Chase copies via mix

[marble portal]

Checked the UB doc and noticed Oleana is used a ton. Why, exactly?

Is it just for her big rapid debuffs or is there something else?

[true lagoon]

rapid debuffs + rebuff acting as a very good foundation for defensive supporting

[marble portal]

ah

been considering candying her for a year now

[stable storm]

do ya all save ubs for emergency gems or do them if you can immediately?

[valid onyx]

I'd do them immediately if I could

[slate light]

i do them immediately

and gio will be no different

well unless i get my shit pushed in and need to come up with a different team

[snow spruce]

Would ss acerola + ss nemona + another fairy pair be able to do Nita?

[fast pendant]

Not enough speed debuffs, I feel

[exotic dome]

If for another fairy pair you mean pal Serena, maybe

[low coral]

I strongly doubt you got the power for it

Hyper Beam is most likely a sure KO against Acerola

[stone scarab]

i'm wondering if SS Gladion + Pal Serena might just manage it with someone like SS Morty

i suppose it's worth a shot once i get serena

[low coral]

It won't

Damage output is way too low

We're used to Gladion with Alola Spirit boosted, Fairy Zone, and Rebuff

You'll lack all of those and have a weaker nuke partner

Grass itself barely makes the cut, and Red / Adaman / Acerola has a far superior damage output

[stable tundra]

it's preferred to show your roster by taking screenshots so we can look into it easier

you can try Elio (Alt.), SS Blue and Olivia, upgrade them to lvl 120 at least

[clear jungle]

Okay thank you

[rich heron]

What's the team for tmr ub

[valid raft]

That depends on what you have

You need to counter his stat buffs and need a field

[stable tundra]

you can wait for next reset for people to figure out teams

[valid raft]

The fight is clearly tuned for SC Zinnia and Akari

But if you have Buff Block units like Foxanne, then you can try to use her

[snow spruce]

I'm scared of that TM..

[valid raft]

Imagine if Giovanni also had Fluid Fortification

[stable storm]

the trauma from 4 years ago is making me even more afraid

[valid raft]

I wonder how does CCalam/SC Zinnia/Cerena sound

[stable storm]

Idt there's enough field

does zinnia have extension on buff block?

[valid raft]

Yes

[low coral]

3

[snow spruce]

lacks AoE for sides

[stable storm]

maybe it could be enough?

[low coral]

You don't have an opening field

The start of the battle will already be pretty rough

[valid raft]

I mean, you can flinch with Cerena

Delay the use of Zinnia's B Move as much as possible

[low coral]

And force early buffs?

Because that forces them into using TM

[valid raft]

Sure

[low coral]

That would be even worse

Gio is going to wipe out the team in a single move if he's buffed AND has no field

[valid raft]

Make them use all of their TMs early and use Zinnia's B Move after forcing them to use their TMs

[low coral]

They have Resilience extended

[stable storm]

doesn't he only become immortal under no field? he doesn't start one shotting stuff in no field

[low coral]

You'll force one TM, two at most

[low coral]

No, he has a 50% multiplier attached to it

[stable storm]

oh

fuck

[valid raft]

Hmmm, the actions are completely different on 1x and 3x speed

[snow spruce]

fug

so you need a field effect from the very start until the end AND you need to deal with the buffing and the 2 TMs and the accuracy debuffs =/

@low coral would the anti-accuracy drop cookie be mandatory on Irida here? Otherwise she cant hit and debuff

[orchid bridge]

I would if the rats can debuff Gio fast enough

[snow spruce]

they can, but only until the TM gets used

[low coral]

Idk, idt it's mandatory, but I think it's worth it

[snow spruce]

I really wonder if the Ice team will REQUIRE paralyzing Gio first so that Reds freeze doesnt proc a very early TM use (assuming it works like that)
with an early TM you could die even before the first sync, just from a random EQ

[low coral]

Earthquake is move 3

Gio might not even use it if you flinch + freeze correctly

And both Red and Chase can have Endurance

[snow spruce]

Irida would die though. Without her and her WZT you're fucked
Cynthia can give you more zone, but without Irida you're probably still RIP
I just dont see how Ice team can deal if Gio were to use the TM real early. Feels like their only chance is if he uses it turn 5-6 at earliest (or better yet after sync) - and that goes for most teams

[low coral]

If you get hit by Earthquake, it's probably among the last moves before Gio Syncs

I wouldn't plan on extending the battle that long if using Chase

Also, when I say TM, it's the items

Gio won't use his signature TMs before sync no matter how much you stun him

[snow spruce]

Oh? Thats known for sure? In that case yeah
I was specifically talking about his uber TMs, not random buffs

[low coral]

Unless the behavior change on the message is specifically about that, yes

There's no chance he's going to use his TMs before he syncs if his AI is the same as every other UB we had

[stable storm]

it would be funny if he used them right before sync

[fading walrus]

From the data

Is he stunnable ?

[final yacht]

Yes

[fading walrus]

Oh then it's quite easier I feel

[low coral]

Easier than he would be if he wasn't, yes

But Nita's stunnable too

[fading walrus]

Yeah ik

That's why I was able to have some fun with Nita

[gentle wharf]

Immediately

Or rather

Immediately get crushed and wait until I have the counter lol

[bright python]

Here's my bonehead question: what does field effect mean? Like does it mean terrain/circles/zone/weather/what?

[rotund oasis]

forr ddaarach ?

[bright python]

For Gio

[rotund oasis]

oh wtz basically, + damage fields.
Circles i think doesnt count iirc.

[earnest panther]

https://tenor.com/view/enhailed-gif-25124238

I REALIZED THE UB IS NEXT RESET

I did not study up on gio.... ummmmm.....

[gentle wharf]

Considering it’s bug weak

One of my weakest types

[stone scarab]

he's dark weak bestie

[rotund oasis]

i'm gonna try sst red / ash / zapdos 😭

[gentle wharf]

I’m just gonna give it an honest go, fail, and move on lol

Oh dark? Phew

[stone scarab]

weather, terrain, zone, damage fields. any field effect that would affect gio's side

[rotund oasis]

akari havers must be nice.

[stone scarab]

circles only apply to your side so they don't work

[earnest panther]

hmmm..... NC Blue/Akari/SC Zinnia?

[gentle wharf]

Oh yeah Akari can indefinitely set it up

[rotund oasis]

if you can sync hard enough maybe/ ;o?

[earnest panther]

i mean, they're both 1/5, but stealing all of gio's buffs sound nice

[stone scarab]

that looks like it'd be about the best comp possible with enough investment

[rotund oasis]

NC Blue has impervious no?
The -ACC is painful though.

[stone scarab]

both at 1/5 would be kinda concerning though

[stone scarab]

on grid

[earnest panther]

i DO have a field candy....

and almost a tech cany.... but idk if it's worth it

[stone scarab]

i wouldn't say so

it's 300 gems and there are going to be other comps that can manage it

[earnest panther]

All of my dark damage dealers are 1/5

[stone scarab]

then offtype

[earnest panther]

at least all my exclusive ones.

[rotund oasis]

i'm gonna do ash/ncblue/sstred ala debuffer mode.

SST Red has piercing gaze, ash also.

[earnest panther]

let me think here. i don't want to resort to weird rats

[stone scarab]

i'll be working with the rat team

because i cba to come up with anything interesting

[rotund oasis]

honestly

i could run akari, but she's 2/5

and the only thing she'd want is either vigilance or aquity (or w/e its name is)

[stone scarab]

acuity

[rotund oasis]

could dump a candy, 4 omni, for her.

but i'll do the rats first

[broken crag]

damn cant even candy 0/5 akari

[valid raft]

ST debuffs with Ripple Effect 9 won't take effect on the entire team if your tank has Impervious right?

[rain sorrel]

Yeah it won't spread

[valid raft]

Then that means this fight is also partially made for CCalem

[rain sorrel]

I would agree... if NC Calem didn't have bulk made of glass

[valid raft]

Team Safe Start with Umbral Healing

And he can help manage gauge for Akari

BTW, how much defensive stat drop mitigations does Gio have?

[rain sorrel]

All he has are 80% and 40% endurance and Resilience (meaning you can stun him) everything else he has is centric in having positive stat ups so he can destroy you

[stable tundra]

they meant passives like Trained Body that mitigates the effectiveness of stat drop

should be 5 unless it's specified somewhere

[rain sorrel]

Oh, yeah, it says on the sheet that he has 5 on all stats

[stable storm]

is the fat Mewtwo ub today?

[valid raft]

This reset

[rich heron]

Ig Serena can work in this UB

Unfortunate strike

With rebuff

[stable storm]

it's time

[stable storm]

problem is she can't nuke him as hard cuz double endure and gio has that insta kill tm

[bright python]

what if i beat it with rats because funny

i mean, i probably could/couldn't idk lol we'll find out

[rich heron]

With akari?

[bright python]

SST red does get rid of gio's main buff though

[stable storm]

you will need to kill before gio tm

[rich heron]

When is that

[bright python]

post first sync i believe

[rich heron]

Oh

[stable storm]

probably. Pretty sure rats hit hard enough to kill gio before gio clicks tm

[rich heron]

So before sync we have to kill

[bright python]

i'll beat it for shits and giggles if i can later

[stable storm]

with zinnia you can double your time

[sacred sphinx]

How is Gio going

[bright python]

beating it with sc zinnia would be double funny

but does gio clear the stat gain nullification from zinnia's b-move? someone check please

[stable storm]

Has anyone beaten him yet

[bright python]

no lmao

it's been 4 minutes

[rich heron]

Idk team

[stable storm]

no

[rich heron]

I have akari

[stable storm]

It's a field effect

[rich heron]

Ss Cyrus 1/5

1/5 Serena

[warm haven]

oh boy

[bright python]

ok why does this UB suddenly sound a lot easier on paper

[warm haven]

it's presync or death

[stable storm]

buff block should negate gio's field passives as well

[bright python]

then again me bone-ead

[stable storm]

if you have zinnia it's much easier

[rotund oasis]

he has 2 enduraance

[bright python]

i have 1/5 sc zinnia

[stable storm]

if you don't it's a lot more tricky

[rotund oasis]

you are not presyncing him :/

[warm haven]

unless no stat buff on his tm, but you ain't surviving the tm boosted sync

[stable storm]

you could try sstr, zinnia and nc blue

[low coral]

Well, Gio can indeed use TM pre-sync

[bright python]

that's my plan

[low coral]

Not sure if that was because I KOed sides tho

[bright python]

but i need to get to a more workable place first

[rich heron]

What's his insta kill tm?

[low coral]

But that was on 2 countdown

[warm haven]

it happened to me that way

[stable storm]

that tm?

[low coral]

You're In Trouble Now

[stable storm]

did you get one shot by the tm

[bright python]

its not an instakill TM iirc, but it's like Plamer's

[warm haven]

i did

[stable storm]

So don't kill sides?

do ub mids become more dangerous if sides are killed early now?

[rich heron]

Do sides also get affected with high stat?

[bright python]

sounds like it, i dont think they have anything uberstrong besides hyper beam anyways

[stable storm]

iirc they mentioned an ub behaviour change

[stable storm]

he has 2. One of them does that

[rich heron]

Oh

[stable storm]

it's 12 to like 3 stats, +2 eva and+2 crit

[rotund oasis]

LOL

I see rats

yeah i'm going rats mode

[stable storm]

Expected

[sacred sphinx]

Actually I think it might be possible with the rats tbh

[onyx cedar]

was already done lol

[dim lance]

I'm gonna let this UB simmer and then just steal a team afterwards

[sacred sphinx]

Sync with Red instead of Ash

Oop lmao I was just doing it in game

[dim lance]

Unless it's easy far

Fsr*

[sacred sphinx]

It’s actually not as terrifying as I expected it to be

All I gathered was don’t kill the sides

[dim lance]

Id be surprised if the frogs don't work

Or do they not

[spiral summit]

My Zone run out

[warm haven]

yeah it looks like if you interrupt the normal rotation gio uses his tm early

the clear with the rats had gio using tm after sync

[dim lance]

So basically... don't stun him?

[rotund oasis]

ew

almost there rofl

[tacit hatch]

huh interesting yeah i ended up with tm before sync

think it's because i flinched with bianca

[rich heron]

[warm haven]

I just tested it. No problem with a stun early but you can't kill the sides

[rich heron]

If one she critted last sync

On one side

[stable storm]

guh, mina ss glad and grusha are only getting gio to 50% before he clicks tm

[sacred sphinx]

First TM?

[tacit hatch]

having trouble w/ akari rn but i might just not be using the right strategy 😅

[stable storm]

the you are in trouble nowtm

[sacred sphinx]

That’s his first TM right

[rich heron]

I hate my pairs for not critting in the main moment

[stable storm]

yeh

[sacred sphinx]

50% before first TM is pretty good

[stable storm]

I can only get gio to neutral special attack before his second sync as he clicks sure crit all instead of attacking so grusha can't trigger b move

If I had ss wally maybe I could rush ir down before second sync but that's gonna take till anni to happen

[rich heron]

Oh wait
Can ss gladion , ss Wally and Mina clear this?

[stable storm]

gio is so FAT. He shouldn't be this fat while hitting this hard

[stable storm]

idk, probably if invested. Mina ss glad and grusha got him to 50% for me

[sacred sphinx]

Maybe?

[rotund oasis]

wtf

does giovanni haave

[sacred sphinx]

Tho that team can only lower 2 stats

A lot

[rotund oasis]

wait

[stable storm]

I also tried with hau instead of mina but that was only 55%

[rotund oasis]

he goes through vigilance/

[rain sorrel]

My Akari is 1/5 but honestly I just need more Haze MPRs to keep him suppressed

[rich heron]

Maybe
Nc blue, glad and Wally?

[sacred sphinx]

Isn’t that still only 2 stats being lowered

And zone won’t last long enough I don’t think

[rich heron]

Rip

[onyx cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/960306675473084426/1270630788354019370/Screenshot_2024-08-07-01-32-49-855_com.google.android.apps.nbu.files.jpg?ex=66b466a3&is=66b31523&hm=9993e4922d77f7532008a071935c8d453510f9cb39af70a0d8babd327310eea2&

and finished

[rich heron]

I am getting him to low hp but not be able to make it before his second sync

[tacit hatch]

wat so when are you supposed to haze?

[rich heron]

After his sync

[onyx cedar]

right before his sync... after his sync..

[agile wave]

How do i prevent accuracy drop

[broken crag]

is this impossible without akari?

[tacit hatch]

i die to first sync 😅 i guess i need proper defenses i was trying a more offensive strategy

will rebuild team

[onyx cedar]

it is possible without Akari

as long you have a field on the game

[broken crag]

ight ill wait till someone find someone to win with rats

[onyx cedar]

weather, zone

[broken crag]

lul

[onyx cedar]

they already defeated it

look at the replays haha

[rich heron]

There is
Just go to that new feature in game

Where u can see teams

Replay

Someone cleared with NC leaf , blue and sstr

[valid raft]

You're in Trouble performs The Ultimate Power

[gentle wharf]

Yeah this ain’t happening with my roster lol

[stable storm]

I wonder if ss hau, misty and mina /grusha/ss glad could keep him down. Probably not enough sustinence for the ss glad comp right?

[broken crag]

ill wait for video

so i can copy move for move

like usual

lul

[gentle wharf]

Hot damn, what are their move levels?

[onyx cedar]

3/5 all

[gentle wharf]

Ah crap

[onyx cedar]

regular gears

[rain sorrel]

Yeah, I may be using NC Blue but his damage isn't that terrifying until he REALLY racks up buffs

[onyx cedar]

EX R on Cynthia and Roxanne, so not friendly lol

[gentle wharf]

Oh wait is Akari Field or Strike base?

[onyx cedar]

Field base

[gentle wharf]

Sweet

[stable storm]

right before his syncs. Also grab vigilance since he has sure crit sync

[onyx cedar]

but she never sync'd

lol

[stable storm]

what bulk does ss Misty give?

[gentle wharf]

Oh never? Huh

[onyx cedar]

all the sync were from Roxanne after the first, since she tupsy-turvies' the stats

[rich heron]

Oh wait
Akari have CS2 in passive so can use vigilance

[gentle wharf]

OHH RIGHT

[rain sorrel]

+2 Sp. Def via TM

[stable storm]

I retried and got him to 45% this time but that's my limit

[onyx cedar]

want me to upload it?

[gentle wharf]

I forgot about that lol

[exotic dome]

Die Giovanni

[onyx cedar]

and again, my Roxanne is EX R lol

[stable storm]

total +4? any healing?

[onyx cedar]

so her sync is AoE haha

[rotund oasis]

dangit

that first tm is nasty

[stable storm]

He even clicks it pre sync if you kill the sides

[rain sorrel]

Unless you get MPR yeah. She can ignore Accuracy drops whenever you gain more Mist charges

[onyx cedar]

I think he uses it if you put him on the threshold

[stable storm]

what about her healing?

[onyx cedar]

defeating sides push the queue faster too

[stable storm]

so below 80%?

[onyx cedar]

well, 80%

if you trigger the endurance, he'll use it

[rain sorrel]

SS Misty? She doesn't have any healing

[onyx cedar]

or that's what I saw once lol

[stable storm]

crud

[onyx cedar]

I sync'd with Roxanne and put him on 80% at CD 1

and he used Ultimate Power

synced and defeated me hahaha

[stable storm]

ss hau has the infinite zone but could ss misty mina ss hau do it?

idk if hau nukes hard enough

[rain sorrel]

If you had maybe 5/5 SS Mina for Synchro Healing, maybe?

[gentle wharf]

Oh yes please, mine are EXR and 3/5 (other than Akari but she just sets field right?)

[stable storm]

Mine is only 3/5.....

[dark dust]

How's Gio UB going?

[dark dust]

Of course lmao

[broken crag]

YOOO someone used rats

[warm haven]

if you haze him its really easy

[broken crag]

got video?

[paper mural]

Just believe in Grimsley. He's a good guy.

[dark dust]

So I guess I can use Akari/NC Blue/Grimsley?

[onyx cedar]

ok

[paper mural]

Not recording, sorry.

[onyx cedar]

just noticed that I used my +6 energy Roxanne

but it doesn't matter

as her damage comes from Syncs, not from Better Prepared 5 lol

[exotic dome]

Grimsley feels so 2019/2020, I love it

[broken crag]

could u send a pic of ur grid?

[warm haven]

oh wait

it looks like gio uses his tm if you reach the second bar before sync

[valid raft]

He literally used both TMs after his 1st sync

[onyx cedar]

@gentle wharf https://youtu.be/enITHZ9ZJTc

there

[stable tundra]

yay finally a team i can replicate

[warm haven]

Scary

[broken crag]

oh neat

another team i can replicate

[stable storm]

Kill before second sync?

[dark dust]

What does NC Silver do here

[onyx cedar]

his best

[warm haven]

sync accel, pride mp, circle and some damage

[warm haven]

ye, just try not to reach 80% before sync

[broken crag]

whats ur grids

and lucky skills

[warm haven]

blue ad1, red cs2 silver hs1

im recording a video

[paper mural]

[https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=002103014500&s0=5&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=21010101&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFBggLDhAREhUYGhwfIg&v1=000002002500&s1=5&l1=140&r1=5&p1=0&a1=21010101&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFCw4VHSAjJSksLS4&v2=004800051000&s2=5&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=21010101&t2=4444&g2=AAECAwQFEhQXGR0kJyowMTIzNDU](https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=002103014500&s0=5&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=15010301&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFBggLDhAREhUYGhscHyIl&v1=000002002500&s1=5&l1=140&r1=5&p1=0&a1=21010101&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFCw4dICMlKSssLS4&v2=004800051000&s2=5&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=21010101&t2=4444&g2=AAECAwQFEhQXGR0kJyowMTIzNDU)

[broken crag]

oh sht

3 vigilance

[paper mural]

NC Blue sync first, Red sync second, and before Red sync don't use any ET.

[robust lagoon]

I got it, fuck this fight

[broken crag]

no sync with grimsley?

[paper mural]

It's cleared between Gio's 2nd and 3rd sync so Vig is essential.

[paper mural]

It's poop.

[bright python]

so how's everyone UBing

[broken crag]

alright thanks

when should i use grimsleys snatch

[tacit hatch]

can anyone advise me on a good 5/5 akari grid? is it possible to get the sync multipliers simultaneously with the debuffing tile and the fierce entry tile

and if not what's best to drop

[paper mural]

Only snatch the +12 TMs.

[tacit hatch]

(+10E)

[valid raft]

Giovanni is randomly using You're in Trouble between his 1 move before his first sync and after his 1st sync

[paper mural]

Other would be deplete naturally w NC Blue & SST Red's debuff.

[broken crag]

wait why does lucky skill for zapdos say vigilance

when u already got it on ur grid

[tacit hatch]

wait lodge gladion moment (replace ss misty)

[paper mural]

Oh it was a mistake. It's Adrenaline 1. (fixed it)

Sorry for the confusion.

[valid raft]

There we go even if Gio's usage of his TMs is random

[rotund oasis]

who sync'd here? 😮

and grid?

[spiral summit]

He’ll use his 1st Tm after you reach his 1st endure and ofc, 2nd Tm after reaching 2nd endure

[paper mural]

It's not random ig. He prob use it early if he gets flinch.
Oh it's the endure?

[valid raft]

Calem -> Cerena -> Cerena or Zinnia

[rotund oasis]

zinnia required for 3/5?

[valid raft]

Oh definitely

For Buff Block Extension

[rotund oasis]

yikes then sigh

[bright python]

also i swear gio basically always seems to make me unable to quadqueue during my run

[spiral summit]

The moment i reach 80%, he just instantly use Tm

[gentle wharf]

Oh of course Vigilance lol

That was what kept killing me haha

Thanks

[river prawn]

Still not a breeze

And yes, his tms are tied to both endurances I am pretty sure

[warm haven]

We're so back
https://youtu.be/kUWCAGt8xpI

[stable storm]

easier to manipulate but very punishing for fast clears

[rain sorrel]

Goddangit

[gentle wharf]

So close, don’t give up

[rain sorrel]

Yeah, my ET expired before my last sync. I'm adjusting my strat to save ET stacks from the start

[stable storm]

I can't get enough mprs to survive gio

[valid raft]

I'll just put my clear here for now

[stable storm]

mina ss glad and misty seems to be working a bit. Got him 35% but I run out of hazes to stop his syncs

[valid raft]

Calem got a good roll off of that Mega Kick and didn't trigger endure, but it didn't seem to matter

[rotund oasis]

okay

NC Blue - Ball Guy - SST Red Full Nuke with Vigilaance

[river prawn]

Have you thought about Penny

She can steal stats

[stable storm]

will 2 be enough?

[river prawn]

Probably not

I think she has sync burst in grid

[rain sorrel]

She can get up to 3 with Sync burst

[stable storm]

lemme check

wait sync burst restores b move mp?

[river prawn]

Yes

Sync burst restores every mp move

[stable storm]

wth never knew about that

mina penny ss glad I assume

[tacit hatch]

alright did my akari clear. that was much more of a grind than i expected i thought it would be geared to presyncing

[stable storm]

I will need to kill gio immediately after 3 syncs since I only have 3 b moves to block his tms

[tacit hatch]

lodge gladion + akari + nc blue, simple but works

[rotund oasis]

Damnit :<

[snow spruce]

so the 2 named TMs are really tied to his endures ? at 80% and 50% ?

[rain sorrel]

Got it

Adjusted from SS Misty to Penny

[stable storm]

@river prawn THX. It worked even if it required a few resets for good damage rolls on my side and mega kick rolling low damage

Had to use a b move from glad early to force gio tm right before his sync so penny could steal all his stats and nulify the sync

[stable storm]

yeh

it's intresting

you can force gio to become op and immediately take away his buffs if your comp can steal stats but in exchange comps that can't steal stats have to think carefully when damaging him

phew, Nita and Anabel are my only uncleared ubs for now

[rotund oasis]

FINALLY

AHHHHHHHH

[stable storm]

has there been a standard fairy comp gio clear yet?

[river prawn]

Yeah with Zinnia you want to rush the portion between 80% and 40% so his second tm gets blocked

[stable storm]

when did you drop him to 80%?

[fading walrus]

So how does the TM thing work

[stable storm]

also gives your wtz setter additional breathing room if their wtz is limited because buff block is a field effect

[rotund oasis]

reverses ATK, SP.ATK debuffs.
Crit +2 and acc+2 iirc.

[fading walrus]

I know that

I'm asking when he uses it

[stable storm]

he immediately clicks his 1st tm when he endures for the first time. Second tm for the second time @fading walrus

[dim lance]

Frogs works

My zinnia is also 1/5 only, kek

[rotund oasis]

seems to be endurance breach.

[fading walrus]

Ohhhhhhhhh

That's cool

Is there an ice teamcomp clear yet?

[stable storm]

it's very intresting since gio tm is very strong and makes his attacks insta kill but he buffs all at once so he's very easy to steal from unlike Nita

[snow spruce]

@low coral any luck with the Ice team? it seems like you would need to do it similarly to this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUWCAGt8xpI
i.e. reach 80% and 40% at the right time, so he uses TMs after sync and then kill him quick before he can wipe you
It seems like breaking 80% as he is at 1 counter (and already queued the last action before the sync) is key. Then he is forced to finish that action, then sync and only then can he use the first TM
but I think field uptime may be an issue for Ice?

[stable storm]

I personally like the behaviour change after using it to my advantage

makes clears play differently

[radiant edge]

https://youtu.be/LhVnmISl-oI