#Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles

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low coral
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Like, being better than him isn't saying much, all he is is a support with a dodge move, otherwise, he's the same support that he is on every other stage

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It promotes him as much as it promotes Fall Phoebe, in that sense

snow spruce
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But how many supports with a turn 1 damage guard is there even ? That have it on their own, without help
Cynthia, Mina, Blue, Argenta ? who else?

fast pendant
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I would say that's irrelevant

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You don't need a supp to actually be your 1st target in this fight

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Since aside from fissure it's eq spam

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You only need your 1st target to either avoid or block fissure

snow spruce
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There arent that many options for that for dps either (and FLy is a bad option since it disrupts the sync counter.
Also there is likely 2 or more fissures to deal with

fast pendant
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Well that's what makes the battle hard and quite frail

low coral
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As long as you can deal with sides before they start to Giga Impact, the tank only has to be capable of taking Fissure

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And one non-crit, non-Move Up Brick Break, I guess

fast pendant
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But a supp not having protect doesn't necessarily make them bad here you can have a supp on the side that abuses sync acceleration while the 1st target uses fly

low coral
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The rest of the moves are AoE anyway

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One side uses Giga Impact before Earthquake, but it uses X Attack All before all else, so it shouldn't be a problem if you can focus it

fast pendant
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That's after their 1st sync regardless

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Since it's left side

low coral
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Yeah, either after sync or after you already took down mid

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You can still afford to let NC Red, NC Marnie, NC Cheren, Liza, Renegade Cynthia, etc. Be the first target and it probably barely changes compared to if they weren't

final yacht
fast pendant
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I think she's good to an extent

low coral
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Well, technically, it would probably be Cheren

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Since he can do what Gloria does and much more damage

fast pendant
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Since she's just horrible Vs sides

final yacht
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don't you want to spam bleakwind with cheren

low coral
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You do, but a single Fly on turn 1 ain't gonna hurt much

final yacht
low coral
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And it's not like Cheren is gonna need to click it again

snow spruce
low coral
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I'm fairly sure, unless you turn skip sides, he'll go Fissure > Earthquake > X Attack All

snow spruce
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I honestly think this UB is too easy and underwhelming if there is only 1 Fissure pre-sync... especially after Nita
It needs to be 2. Or if not - then at least bump HP to 500K+

low coral
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Well, idt Nita's reception was actually that popular

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I know quite a lot of people who think they went too far, even if they brought stuns back

fast pendant
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Not every new ub needs to be the strongest

final yacht
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Can we have more easy UBs like Lucy please and thank you

low coral
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If you take Red, Irida, Cheren, you're probably left with than the 10% of the options to beat Nita

low coral
final yacht
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yes please

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(I don't like UBs LarryDead)

stone scarab
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i'd like something like darach again

snow spruce
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UBs are my fav mode by far

low coral
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I do, I think it's the place where you can extract 100% out of the sync pairs' power

final yacht
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the sync pairs in question: the 5% best pairs in the game
and tech lapras

low coral
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You could just say 5% and the sentence remains the same

final yacht
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I don't think lapras is genuinely in the top 5% best pairs in the game WEEZing

low coral
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Ofc not SeleneLul

final yacht
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I like Lucy because you can beat her with a very wide variety of pairs GladionSip

low coral
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It's just blessed with two very specific tools

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In Hail and AoE Speed debuffs

boreal abyss
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I don't like any of the stages so far dogwow what now mewfufu

final yacht
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based

low coral
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So it actually can work to help both Master Reds in a genuine fashion

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Even if it's just Irida but egg WulfricKEKW

boreal abyss
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Jk I appreciate Palmer for its originality ig

final yacht
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ew not based

low coral
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But yeah, I think you can really show what a pair can or cannot do with it, even below the 5%

boreal abyss
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I dunno why but the fact you have a timer on that stage gives me adrenaline

low coral
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Just takes more work

final yacht
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Well I can't really make my normal types work since either they just don't work or I don't have the partners needed so ClayClown

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i also have skill issue when it comes to teambuilding ngl

low coral
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Well, Normal just straight up didn't have the pairs before lol

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And now, they might or might not

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But Normal is expesive af

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So we barely have people to test jt

boreal abyss
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I mean Palmer on Argenta i saw some stuff, darach too ig?

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No idea about the rest

low coral
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Idr Palmer on Argenta, what was it?

boreal abyss
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I remember skinny did smth with it

final yacht
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I used Palmer on argenta
in rally ClayClown

boreal abyss
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Lemme find it rq

low coral
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Well, yeah, I think I remember Palmer on Argenta, but back when it was just a Rally stage

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And they had boosts

low coral
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I have no idea why Palmer specifically was chosen WulfricKEKW but it's still a cool clear to go based on the comp

final yacht
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5/5 palmer, 5/5 argenta ClayClown

low coral
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Oh, nvm, I can already see why at the start

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Palmer brings down sides as Leaf will nuke much later

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So you get your sync, then Palmer burst the upper half of mid HP, Leaf does it on the second half

boreal abyss
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I find it personally a very cool clear

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Outside Argenta and Darach tho no idea how and what to do with normal pairs tbh

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Maybe smth can happen with Lucy?

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Or already did, I dunno

final yacht
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Larry has interference for Thorton

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and a good physical nuke

boreal abyss
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That's good news

final yacht
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Lucy you don't have any Normal type that can consistently drop speed, so they're reduced to being DPS only

boreal abyss
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Man

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Unlucky

final yacht
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Palmer has -4, SC Steven has -6, but that's about it

low coral
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Normal lacks gimmick checks, yeah

final yacht
low coral
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Hopefully the next Normal Zone support has some sauce

final yacht
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where's my bloodmoon ursaluna supp + field ex r that works a bit like iono

low coral
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Why doesn't Adaman have Geeta's passive on Facade in general

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All of that kit for a 50 BP move

final yacht
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Adaman's Facade is 100% useless

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even under normal zone you deal more damage with the b move

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it's so stupid

boreal abyss
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They really went full vgc on that but they forgot how miserable facade in poma is

final yacht
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I'm actually mad at this design LarryDead

boreal abyss
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Oh well sadge

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Whenever I can imma still get him cuz I adore Ursa

final yacht
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Yeah I want him too, but damn

boreal abyss
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Yeah I get that feeling

low coral
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Literally only had to double BP and give more gauges

final yacht
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redesign ursaluna to be a normal pair with b facade and headlong rush coverage

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same kit, just swap the types

boreal abyss
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When is Mr Fissure out again?

final yacht
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8th

boreal abyss
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Got it

final yacht
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hoping to find someone to edit the doc for me before then lol

boreal abyss
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Really looking forward to it

low coral
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Well, Noland I'm sure will have lots of clears

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Just maybe not necessarily the same cores as we're used to

boreal abyss
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Just to see when are the fissure timings and then stuff should be clear to do

low coral
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Well, it's just a fundamental change in approach

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You don't want pairs that extend the battle in general

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Like specifically aiming at buffing defenses and debuffing offenses over offensive benefits

boreal abyss
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Oh for sure

final yacht
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Palmer again basically

boreal abyss
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with endures in the middle

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Yeah

low coral
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Yeah, although you want to distribute more your bursts

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Like AoE nuke + B Moves rather than full on syncs

final yacht
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Me looking at my Sum Liza
Yeah I'm gonna struggle

boreal abyss
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I am confident on Mr Steven like always mewfufu

shrewd marten
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I believe in you

warm haven
shrewd marten
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Not in him

boreal abyss
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believe also in him

shrewd marten
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Okay Mr dabbo

boreal abyss
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5/8 UBs cleared for a reason

shrewd marten
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I believe

boreal abyss
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undisputed goat

boreal abyss
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what's good rowlet shaped friend

uncut drum
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This is how close I was to a duo

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If only Red had the power to take that damned Butterfree out before it set condition shield it might have been able to work

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So I added Jolteon to clear with them

shrewd marten
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and will slacc on the hse

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also gib arven ples

silver spruce
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we need rowlett at this point in lodge

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give us elio and rowlett

stable tundra
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You meant Variety Elio 2.0?

rain sorrel
stable tundra
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Sounds like SS Acerola

rain sorrel
gentle mural
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NC Serena but now with weather

rain sorrel
silver spruce
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Id say the closest we have to anabel is dahlia

snow spruce
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yeah Dahlia

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honestly I think Dahlia is also the best Water pair overall right now

stable storm
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do ya all think nc rosa, grusha and 2/5 nc cheren will be enough for Nolan? don't have enough tech candies to 3/5 him and don't wanna spend yellow candies

slate light
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his health is fairly low so cheren's dps can probably (keyword) handle it

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how will you deal with fissure? does grusha have damage guard or

stable tundra
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his B Move leaves him in a defensive posture

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that probably can block Fissure

slate light
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only one way to find out i guess SophoKEK

stable tundra
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but he wants Sentry Entry lucky skill to activate it in the first turn

low coral
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Or tank with Cheren

stable tundra
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oh true

low coral
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Since Grusha can block the following AoE moves

stable storm
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thats possible yes

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I do wanna save grusha b move for the scarier eqs

uncut drum
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I think that with Cheren you can manage even with the other two being f2p

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I unironically think to use Nate because he can fly and is a meatshield

slate light
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thinking Falkner myself

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can buff

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whilst Nate, well

uncut drum
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Cheren is fine to buff on his own

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I think I'd use him with Nate (for memes) and Lucian

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He does enough damage on his own to clear

slate light
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respect 👍

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i'm going to try with NC Cheren, SS Ethan and NC Blue initially. If Fissure spam is more than expected, then I'll see what Falkner can do

chilly dawn
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I'm assuming the fissure spam is only going to be like, one or two

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And then if middle dies it's constant

slate light
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flying boys should be able to delete sides without too much difficulty i think

stable storm
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I hope rosa, 2/5 cheren and grusha can handle Nolan

high harbor
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yes

frozen meteor
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Huh alright

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Darach outheals this 😦

kind wasp
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HapuStare noland seems very hard

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But also he has rlly low HP, I wonder if I can do it with ethan LarryDead

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And anni skyla, 1/5 exr and 3/5 exr respectively

gentle wharf
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Time limits annoy honestly lol

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I love slow and steady

surreal torrent
stable tundra
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For Flying/Steel mission, you can use NC Cheren, Colress and a good tank of your choice

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For double Hoenn, try SC Steven, SC Zinnia and a good tank with status like Sonia

surreal torrent
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Okay so for some reason I have to kill them instantly before they use their sync move. But umm, NC Cheren is not gonna be able to do that

valid raft
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Why not Winona/Hop/Steel Unit?

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Maybe Colress to counter the Healthy Advantage

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Oh wait

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Hop is steel, then I guess you need a Hoenn unit to counter Healthy Advantage like Drake

rich heron
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Next reset is bug dmg challenge

valid raft
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Wrong channel

rich heron
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Oh sorry

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I didn't saw channel name lol

surreal torrent
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What’s Winona even gonna do?

valid raft
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She can flinch and do damage to the sides

spiral summit
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No reason to use Winona when he has Nc Cheren

valid raft
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Winona fills both Hoenn and Flying

spiral summit
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Hop/Winona only for Flying/steel

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And you need 1 more Hoenn which

valid raft
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Drake

spiral summit
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Dmg where ?

valid raft
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Hop Hopium

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Also Winona has Hurricane for the sides

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And Air Slash for flinching

stable storm
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not worth it

spiral summit
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I rather do 2 times with that roster

valid raft
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Or you can use Colress/Winona/Hoenn Unit

spiral summit
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Hop/NC Cheren/SS Cynthia for easy Steel/Flying

stable storm
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oh he has ssac?

spiral summit
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He has 5/5 SS Cynthia

stable storm
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oh

valid raft
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Colress has a good nuke and can counter Healthy Advantage

stable storm
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wait I looked at only some of the roster lmao

spiral summit
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No reason to use Colress when you already use Hop

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Just use that 5/5 SS Cynthia

stoic lake
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colress, SS Steven, and Winona is what i used

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does both the missions

valid raft
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Well, the 3rd slot is literally any Hoenn unit

surreal torrent
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Do I use Kommo-o’s dragon breath?

spiral summit
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Do you even look their roster ? CobalionSquint

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1/5 Colress cant carry

valid raft
spiral summit
stoic lake
surreal torrent
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For Zamazenta, what am I using?

spiral summit
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Another Flying pair to finish Steel/Flying

surreal torrent
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Like who?

spiral summit
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That should be good

surreal torrent
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They still can’t kill quick enough

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And Zamazenta is not doing much damage when I need him to

spiral summit
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Did you triple queue ?

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Bc i have 0 problems with that team

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1/5 NC Cheren, 2/5 SS Cynthia

surreal torrent
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Does he have a lucky skill?

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And I can’t triple queue because I don’t have speed on my side

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Nor move gauge

spiral summit
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My Hop have Vigi, Nc Cheren has CS2 and no LS for SS Cynthia

surreal torrent
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Did you ever use behemoth bash?

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Why is this thing so busted? I can’t pass 80%

valid raft
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You are paralyzing Anabel right?

surreal torrent
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Nope, 30% isn’t hitting

valid raft
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Anabel has Healthy Advantage

surreal torrent
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So how do I counter that? Does it even have a counter?

spiral summit
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Yes, para Anabel

valid raft
surreal torrent
spiral summit
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This

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But bc your SS Cynthia is 5/5 you can even grid this for 100% chance

surreal torrent
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Okay..I don’t understand how I’m supposed to queue

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I have no speed whatsoever and I can’t get my sync moves down in time because of these gauges

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Something tells me they got a cooldown thing as well

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I can’t use my sync move twice

high harbor
# frozen meteor

she's pretty ez, I beat with sst red, nc silver and holiday jasmine, just slap antitoxin on everyone and GG

frozen meteor
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she's not hard to begin with

tulip stream
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got close

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yes ssa cynthia is my best tank

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ss morty is 2/5 forever

tulip stream
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byebye thorton you obnoxious pest

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bianca is carrying me

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i think she'd be useful vs argenta?

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tho idk who to run her w/ vs argenta

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decisions decisions...

stable storm
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for argenta you could do the f2p clear

tulip stream
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nah dont have the orbs to spare on bertha

gentle wharf
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Argenta has an F2P clear?

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Huh

tulip stream
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dumped all of mine on giving may +10e

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don't regret it

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f2p clear needs like +4 or +6

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trying to figure out a argenta team i can actually use

uncut drum
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If Electric terrain lasted a little longer I'd have won

ripe juniper
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Nooooo so close

uncut drum
steady furnace
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For the Hop damage challenge can someone explain the Colress cheese strat? I know you just spam twave with Colress and then sync with Hop as much as possible, but when I do that I don’t even crack 100k damage…what am I doing wrong?

stable tundra
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you should ask in #1255888121648644197

crude kite
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so here’s my hoenn, flying, and steel rosters. trying to beat the round 2 battle of the twins’ event

stable tundra
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Skyla, Colress and SS Steven for Flying/Steel mission

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Sonia, SS Steven and a Hoenn unit with good bulk

stable storm
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Phoebe levelled up could somewhat tank

crude kite
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couldn’t get the mission rewards bc skyla and colress ended up fainting but i finished the battle at least, so thanks for the help 🙏 might try the missions again when it’s not like 1 am lol

rain sorrel
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Man... I thought I was cooking here

1/5 DC Nemona, 1/5 SS Diantha, 3/5 EXR NC Blue

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3/5 SS Diantha + Rock Wish Refresh popping once or twice should be enough firepower...

small basin
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diantha will be so much better when she gets field

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its probably inevitable after ss cyrus and ss lyra both got theirs

shrewd marten
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If she becomes field

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I will not hate her

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Pog

shrewd marten
crude kite
silver spruce
# rain sorrel

You could always use lodge Steven with diantha. Stealth rock is technically a field effect

solemn bison
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Is there a channel for damage challenge

crude kite
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it was only bc of colress’s paralyzing that cost them some turns and made me win but i still failed the missions

stable tundra
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you gridded Skyla with full healing right

crude kite
stable tundra
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make sure both her and Colress are nearly full health when the sync is about to come

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or at least Skyla has enough hp to tank the sync

crude kite
stable tundra
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Colress doesn't need grid

crude kite
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oh nice alright

crude kite
stable tundra
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he doesn't either

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just need to use Protect before the opponent's sync

crude kite
stable tundra
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sadly your Hoenn tanks are not good enough

crude kite
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yeah, ive noticed ThortonCrestfallen not sure if what doom said about phoebe is true since i haven’t really figured out how to use her

stable tundra
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Phoebe is okay

gritty vine
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The main issue with phone is her ability to tank tbh, otherwise she would be amazing

stable tundra
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📱

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Sonia is the tank anyway

crude kite
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should any of them be gridded?

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phoebe and sonia are kinda stuck at 2/5 rn eeeeeeee RileyHaha

stable tundra
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Sonia wants full heal and Spark HE

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oops 2/5

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she is still good, but can you show me your whole support roster?

stable tundra
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yeah Sonia is still my recommendation

crude kite
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did a test run and got destroyed lol, idk how to queue some of these moves or when to use certain ones

stable tundra
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hmm can use Glacia for X Regen instead of Phoebe

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(just don't touch her TM)

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Sonia uses TM -> TM -> Spark

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try to paralyze in the first Spark

crude kite
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do i just restart the battle if there’s no paralysis

stable tundra
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yes you should

crude kite
stable tundra
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not at all

crude kite
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ayeeeeee it worked, thank u once again gakon AAAElio

stable tundra
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glad i could help

stable storm
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Nolan in 2 days

rain sorrel
stable storm
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yeh

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there's no in between

hearty cedar
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If he is stunnable(which many believe he isnt) then he'll be easy, if not then time to fly away

rain sorrel
hearty cedar
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I'm holding out hope that he isnt just bcuz its not mentioned in his passives

stable storm
warm haven
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yeah the ones that have resilience are stunnable

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and noland doesnt have it

fading walrus
snow spruce
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1unwNqwt18yroGqlEpdcnvYBhpn7KdX-ZCD53vqiufzg/edit?gid=1190611733#gid=1190611733
Darach Flying team clear was finally posted, so my 'same team UB clears' doc is updated right before Noland comes out
(red cell means 100% not possible .. yellow cell means - wasnt posted/I dont have proof of clear, but could/should be possible)

stable storm
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I can see most all ub clear teams doing Nolan

rain sorrel
stable storm
stable storm
final yacht
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Im not longer the one in charge KarenDAB

stable storm
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oh who are now

final yacht
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A nice corean dude, he doesn't have discord

warm haven
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Noland has really low hp so all of them can presync clear them

rain sorrel
stable storm
warm haven
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yeah it's to nuke everything post sync

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presyinc is just tms and normal EQs

rain sorrel
nimble zenith
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Is there anything wrong with this team? Because I can't seem to beat it. I am almost there but fall short every time.

snow spruce
nimble zenith
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Not my purpose leaf is ex rolled. Bertha is there for stealth rocks. But leaf is there for there for potions and support. And I use trap for damage extra. And both leafs have vigilance.

stable tundra
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Do you have SS Morty? Or someone with more sun usage having good dmg like Mix Blue to help chipping

nimble zenith
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No I don't but leaf is set up for sync nuke

shrewd marten
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I mean it’s very doable

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Just don’t use vigilance

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And flinch for 3 turn accel

nimble zenith
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How for flinch?

shrewd marten
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Leaf

nimble zenith
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Which leaf?

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Champion leaf?

shrewd marten
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Nc leaf doesn’t flinch

nimble zenith
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So leaf with a 30 percent chance.

rich heron
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Og leaf

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Have staggering 2

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Eevee I mean

shrewd marten
rain sorrel
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Do Damage Fields counter Darach's gimmick? It's not just WTZ?

stable tundra
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yes

stable storm
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ya all ready for tomorrow?

warm haven
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my 6ex falkner is ready GladionSip

final yacht
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My 6ex Glorialt is ready GladionSip

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Inb4 Noland actually doesnt Fissure T1 and we were scared for nothing lol

warm haven
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it would be worse if its turn 2 because the first EQ would consume the entry DG WEEZing

small basin
fading walrus
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Yeah fissures are only on sides no?

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Sounds like a post mid death thing

stable storm
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mid has t1 fissure

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then turn 4

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and spam after final eq from move 6

fading walrus
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How do you know it's T1

stable storm
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I mean with how frail Noland is they need to give him these bonker things

fading walrus
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It's just weird imo to give him a T1 oneshot move

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Guess we'll see

snow spruce
fading walrus
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+reading

fading walrus
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I never said without fissures

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I said T1 fissure

river prawn
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T1 is better than later

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All those entry damage guards

snow spruce
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Well if the fissures come too late then they dont even matter since he and sides have such low HP that they are dead already.
We'll see

T1 fissure is a cool UB gimmick IMO

stable storm
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tho it's better for us

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since it allows entry dg to actually block attacks

river prawn
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It is a cool gimmick imo, since he gets sure crit if he kills, and he has piercing blows

snow spruce
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Actually yeah .. turn 3 or 4 Fissure is probably way worse than T1 Fissure
But even betetr if its 2 fissures in the first 4-5 turns ^^

stable storm
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he has the lowest ub hp and sides have only 70k hp

stable storm
fading walrus
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I'm not saying it's a hard ub

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It's just annoying for diverse clears

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Zzzz

stable storm
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ssac+ most 2 great DPS should do this so that should allow for diverse clears

snow spruce
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But an UB thats too easy is meh too
I skipped watching (or doing additional ones) Lucy UB clears because its just that much of a joke. No satisfaction from it

Palmer was satisfying IMO

fading walrus
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Like Nita and Anabel

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Because they're just excessive

snow spruce
fading walrus
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Eh

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Like, the most fun I have with UBs is trying to stall, fit certain units or pre first sync them

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And stuff like Nita and Leon feels just unfun

warm haven
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noland will be fun for me, it's like palmer but without needing the excessive damage

snow spruce
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Nita was probably too much. I definitely dont want an UB thats even harder than Nita (..unless 5-th anni brings HUGE powercreep)
Leon and Anabel are ok-ish.
Palmer was great

fading walrus
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I'll keep having all UBs done but stuff that's excessively restrictive will never feel fun to me

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The only way to make Nita fun was looking for a way for irida + red + a decent sleeper rotation to presync consistently

rotund oasis
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oh right. Bounce Challenger Gloria + Summer Liza using 10SMUN Giga Impact HMM

low coral
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As Lucy kinda takes the entire point of being a UB away

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The more balanced ones are probably stuff like Thorton

final yacht
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The only people that prefer Anabel are people with ultra stacked rosters

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Which is clearly not the majority

low coral
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But the ones I see prefering Lucy are also the ones who don't like UBs all around

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Especially early on as Lucy is the only one they can beat

fading walrus
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I don't like Lucy a lot but I definitely don't like Anabel, Palmer or Nita either

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Probably because I rarely max meta characters

warm haven
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and rain has may that's one of the best ftp setters

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nita requires tech lapras CynthiaSmug

final yacht
slow sky
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Nita sucks and that's even tho I have cleared that stage

final yacht
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All she does is set rain, her damage is far from being enough

warm haven
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imagine if its rain instead of sun and you have to use blaine

final yacht
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SS Erika erasure

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Silver too if you can afford to delay it

warm haven
low coral
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SS Erika would potentially be worse

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Since she becomes a disadvantage to your team once sun runs out

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Blaine also would at least get trap + burn

final yacht
#

Never let Sun run out ez

slow sky
low coral
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Well, not a gangster, I'm exactly saying Blaine would probably be better WulfricKEKW

final yacht
#

Blaine hasnt been used against Argenta GladionSip

low coral
#

The Grass-weak battle LucasFLOOSHED

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and I've felt Erika to often be a liability without Adaman too

rain sorrel
warm haven
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but anyways, for anabel you have cerena, eusine, lissandre, dahlia, vlyr, or just one of the top teams

slow sky
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Anabel is still a demanding stage til date

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that is for sure

warm haven
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but i hate that i have to waste LS for lucy

slow sky
#

she basically deletes your dps if you dont change weather on turn 1

rain sorrel
warm haven
#

but i guess anabel is the one that demands the best supports

warm haven
low coral
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The problem with battles like Nita is that, yeah, they can go overboard on the difficult

rain sorrel
low coral
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But, with Lucy, it feels just like a wasted slot

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As the battle didn't need to be a UB in the first place

warm haven
uncut drum
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Considering Battle Rally uses them, having Lucy is fine

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And you still need to worry about poison

rain sorrel
final yacht
slow sky
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if there was a support that provides team sand shelter Bertha would had been perfect there

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(only 1 who has it rn is NC Silver)

final yacht
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Yeah considering Rally uses the UBs, I'd prefer many more UBs like Lucy

uncut drum
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I'm fine with Darach or Argenta level UBs too, which aren't too hard

warm haven
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i dont, image using deluxe cookies to finish rally

uncut drum
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Even Thorton isn't awful

snow spruce
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Please dont nerf UBs just because of Rally

uncut drum
low coral
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I wouldn't, the end of Battle Rally is supposed to be challenging anyway

final yacht
uncut drum
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They aren't nerfing anything

low coral
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It's already hard to justify Apple Cup as an item, if we had more Lucy, the item becomes even more pointless

uncut drum
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Leon is somewhere in the middle. Annoying but I've seen worse

warm haven
final yacht
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I have to apple cup sometimes because I just cant finish my rally otherwise

rain sorrel
uncut drum
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It's trivialized any UB

final yacht
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Really not

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Depending on roles it can still suck

rain sorrel
low coral
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Well, you can always go Hard difficult over Very Hard

uncut drum
final yacht
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Which I cant always beat either GeetaTired

rain sorrel
uncut drum
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Even sun boosted Anabel doesn't like it

snow spruce
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I did Rally Argenta once with Cup but with NO rebuffs and NO weather change .. was hard

rain sorrel
uncut drum
uncut drum
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I also saw a sun team clearing it

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And I almost managed to duo Leon

crude kite
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any clue on how i can complete these two missions 🤡 here are my ghost, sinnoh, and alola rosters

valid raft
crude kite
stable tundra
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does the stage have Clear Advantage or any damage reduction gimmick?

crude kite
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hmmm don’t recall. im trying to beat battle challenge round 2 for this year’s summer event with said theme skills

stable tundra
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i'm thinking of Kiawe, BP Morty and SC Irida rn, but i don't remember the stage having any dmg reduction

crude kite
stable tundra
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what cause the battle almost beatable?

crude kite
# stable tundra what cause the battle almost beatable?

irida was able to take out steven and one of the sides, and crit rate was near or at max with irida’s dire hits + kiawe’s tm.

though i was being a little goofy and only trapped steven with irida instead of trapping everyone and one of the sides koed irida and kiawe at the end. kiawe is also weak to the side with the slowbro(?)

stable tundra
#

Kiawe is Water weak yeah

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if so, i would try to trap everyone first

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grid Kiawe with Potion stuff + Wise Entry 2 if you can

crude kite
#

oh right that too, i was about to ask how kiawe should be gridded, good thing he’s 3/5 at least

crude kite
gentle wharf
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So with Noland rearing up his ugly Piercing Gaze head, what’s the absolute best comp?

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Annie Skyla, NChereNC, Falkner (lol)? Dunno which tank we want for Noland’s BS

whole field
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Someone with protect or fly, probably

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Technically, you could probably run Obstagoon just using endure on the EQs and obstruct on the Fissure.

He has damage boosts for stat buffs, so obstruct lowing his stats could be good

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I think Tornadus-I, a debuffing tech, and a protecting support tank will probably be the combo

stable storm
stable tundra
stone scarab
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He has piercing blows, so endurance is just not gonna work at all

stable storm
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5 hours till ub

plush gale
#

The most outrageous UB with Constant Fissure its gonna be a Pain

craggy wind
#

Dying to Noland again

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No way im clearing this until the Fissures are actually like starting after 3 syncs

eternal yacht
#

@low coral I just watched your Thorton clears using Cynthia + Red + Irida/SST Red/Silver. The gears you used were full of Ice Moves Boost and Crit Boost so do you remember/know if it's possible to clear those stages without the appropriate gears?

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sorry for asking this 4 months later MinaSmile

bright python
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it's time to noland with his coconut gun that fires in spurts i mean fissures and if it shoots ya its gonna hurt

craggy wind
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Mofo starts the battle with Fissure

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But good , i didnt know Fissue is single target

bright python
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well um

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i tried one time, and it was going pretty well

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everything died right after noland synced

plush gale
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Just so you know He unleash Earthquake with 10 Guaranteed Physical Attacks

bright python
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i know

plush gale
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Just Disinteragrated that whole Team

bright python
#

this puts me at an interesting problem

honest depot
#

Okay what the fuck

bright python
#

at my current rate, if i sync with cynthia first, then noland's sync will eat up the damage guard and cynthia dies

river prawn
#

And to all the doubters, he is immune to all stuns

honest depot
#

Are we uh are we being serious right now

plush gale
bright python
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so like

honest depot
#

Is this a joke?

bright python
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am i supposed to delay the sync?

plush gale
rich heron
#

Is dena stupid

bright python
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yes

rich heron
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I mean it's a scam

plush gale
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'Okay we're gonna put No win situation'

bright python
#

and once again dena
PUT
PROPULSION
1
ON
FLY

plush gale
bright python
#

btw

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i think the worst part is

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you have all that shit and he ALSO starts with sync countdown

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he syncs 3 turns faster

warm haven
#

wtf noland start with 3 sync cd

rich heron
#

Yea

bright python
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yes

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This is definitely not normal

river prawn
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Yea that is the impossible part

rich heron
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Atleast give a chance to pre sync

slow sky
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wtf

honest depot
#

I straight up don’t believe this is possible

slow sky
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he starts with 3 sync cd?

river prawn
#

We didn't know that he starts at that

uncut drum
river prawn
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Now the tables turn, it's very hard actually

slow sky
#

wow

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and Nita was already bad enough

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they made this even worse

bright python
stable tundra
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day 1 of praying Noland not joining BR roster soon

bright python
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because you should add that in

plush gale
#

Want to blame the Studio well be my Guess

honest depot
#

Be my guess

bright python
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i think there's a strat to get around this but i need to see

honest depot
#

The only thing I can think of is aura cyn tanking with ss mina and ash

plush gale
rich heron
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Even if we miss first fissure
It's a 3 sync cd with no stuns

river prawn
#

The earthquake is unavoidable now, need protect or some way to dodge it

honest depot
#

But ash isn’t doing enough damage

sacred sphinx
#

How's Noland treating yall

slow sky
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its bullshit

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dont forget

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he has 2 endures

craggy wind
#

New Flying unit with infinite Wide Guard dropping soon dont worry

honest depot
slow sky
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u cant even pray for a 999999 dmg unit to take this down easy

sacred sphinx
#

Oh god

honest depot
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Too bad I’m not living long enough to test how absurd it gets

river prawn
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After each sync he does the 10 pmun thing

sacred sphinx
#

Why did they release 2 BS UBs back to back 😭

stable tundra
#

*3

frozen meteor
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So

stable tundra
#

Leon was bs too

frozen meteor
#

How do we win?

frozen meteor
sacred sphinx
#

Oh true

honest depot
#

We don’t

plush gale
#

80% Damage Endure and 50% Damage Endure that's just constantly too Funny

sacred sphinx
#

I keep forgetting that even with the rats he was BS

slow sky
#

are they trying to weed out cheaters or smth

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madness

sacred sphinx
#

Cheaters?? 😭

slow sky
#

it doesnt look possible

sacred sphinx
#

Our best flying unit is NC Cheren I do not think even a fully gridded Cheren can do it

honest depot
#

This is actually so absurd

craggy wind
frozen meteor
craggy wind
#

Time to Win

sacred sphinx
#

NATEE

plush gale
stable tundra
craggy wind
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Im gonna win this

bright python
#

This is as close as i got

sacred sphinx
#

Ah mb guys I forgot to tell DeNA to add the Nate ⬆️ : Noland Winning ⬇️ 9 passive

slow sky
#

u cant even get NC Cheren's sync multiplier to max out with just that amt of sync cd

kind wasp
#

I would like a word with whoever has made these past 3 UBs

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Better yet the person who suggested UBs exist

bright python
#

maybe if i EX Role NC Cheren? Copium

slow sky
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i have Rolex'd Cheren and I dont even want to try it now

#

LOL

bright python
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i think it COULD be possible with some investment

kind wasp
#

Fissure turn 1 is fun

honest depot
bright python
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I have 1/5 on both the MFs

kind wasp
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And if he doesnt kill u then they can get an instant +10 PMUN

sacred sphinx
#

Nah nah nah

warm haven
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yeah rats have it easy

slow sky
#

???

sacred sphinx
#

Record it

honest depot
#

What the actual fuck

sacred sphinx
#

Send it over

warm haven
#

noland doesnt have much hp

honest depot
#

Which one?

sacred sphinx
#

The rats

honest depot
#

I’m doing this rats clear

bright python
#

but only ash

kind wasp
bright python
#

ash gets damage guard to survive one of the earthquakes

granite sluice
#

was confusion in the doc? i swear i didn't see clearheaded

bright python
#

maybe he could then survive until 50%?

sacred sphinx
#

Does this mean they used damage guard on Red?

bright python
#

ill need to test this further

bright python
sacred sphinx
#

Max Guard

bright python
#

oh yeah

kind wasp
#

Not mine btw, I dont have nc cheren or blue

sacred sphinx
#

Moment

bright python
#

and some sacrifical lamb

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maybe

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nc cheren, ssac cynthia, lana clear? WEEZing

eternal yacht
#

wait it can ohko??

#

._

bright python
#

comrade

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it starts with fissure

eternal yacht
#

yea my cuno got kil

bright python
#

ALSO DENA YOU LITTLE SHITS PUT PROPULSION 1 FLY

rain sorrel
bright python
bright python
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that's the only way you're surviving

plush gale
#

This is just in one of the Community find the odds

bright python
#

ok maybe fly actually

sacred sphinx
#

Piercing Gaze Fissure 💀

honest depot
#

Okay I don’t think the recording is gonna send but this is actually so doable

bright python
rain sorrel
#

Time to try this out then.

bright python
#

i think this actually IS doable

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but i need more time to experiment

sacred sphinx
plush gale
#

Ash really have that Damage Protector

bright python
#

i'll do so when i finish my work later

kind wasp
sacred sphinx
#

Fr

honest depot
#

You just need 1 mp refresh on ash’s damage guard

bright python
#

i think i might try some very stupid combos to get it done

eternal yacht
#

bruh

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ok need some protect mon

kind wasp
sacred sphinx
#

Ah so trainer sync redemption

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Should've pulled smh

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Jkjk

kind wasp
#

Ash is the most useless of the pallectric trio and the only one I have BrycenOTL

sacred sphinx
#

Nah Ash isn't useless

kind wasp
#

Compared to sst red and nc blue he is

sacred sphinx
#

But out of the 3 he's definitely not the best

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Insert NC Blue and SST Red doing literally everything here

granite sluice
#

at least give us confusion against noland jfc

kind wasp
bright python
#

dena: that's

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why he's call "NOland"

rich heron
#

It's NO land but all he is doing is land moves

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Fissure
Earthquake

kind wasp
#

SS Ethan 1/5 ex Anni Skyla 3/5 exr SS Kris 3/5 ex clear when Hopium

warm haven
#

that's why is NO land, so you evade land CynthiaSmug

kind wasp
#

Or a team I actually have the units for that’d be nice

river prawn
#

So I survived a bit after, when it comes to 1 CD cycles he swaps between fissure and earthquake

sacred sphinx
#

I just need Irida

kind wasp
#

I have irida but she’s 1/5

warm haven
#

ngl it's funny to make all my units fly to evade EQ but then they get killed by sync

rain sorrel
#

I made it through 3 syncs but SS Ethan is kinda garbo here LarryDead

sacred sphinx
#

Poor Ethan

bright python
#

do you guys think noland will be another leon

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where the battle is really fucking hard without the intended unit

rain sorrel
#

Are there any units that can give damage guard on T1? Outside of Nemona.

bright python
#

ssa cynthia and victrier

#

wait

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only ivctrier

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ssa cynthia can't GIVE damage guard\

sacred sphinx
#

So like SST Red, uhh Gordie

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Paulo etc

bright python
#

i'll be brutally honest

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i dont think this UB would be harder than like fucking nita and anabel

low coral
eternal yacht
#

oh okay then

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will try once I get Moltres

kind wasp
#

If only playable nita was as good as her UB LarryDead

slow sky
#

that can be said as Noland (for his free unit) WEEZing

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idk how good/bad his variety unit is

bright python
#

also honestly leon UB feels like it was designed as such from the justification "yeah you need a specific unit to defeat it, but like everyone and their mother has the unit so we should make it harder"

spiral summit
#

Dena: Haha Suffering

rich heron
#

Lodge Skyla is not living here right

honest depot
#

Forgot to press tm fuck

spiral summit
#

Yeah

rain sorrel
#

Ugh... If only Piers wasn't Fighting weak...

warm haven
#

did somebody try if ice face works?

rich heron
#

Use Shauna

honest depot
#

Okay 3 more attempts I swear I’ll get it

rain sorrel
#

Obstruct does block Fissures

craggy wind
rich heron
#

Ice team
U can use Dana but she is not surviving here

#

Ig

bright python
#

doesnt obstruct obstruct quadqueing though

frozen meteor
granite sluice
#

fuck this game

frozen meteor
#

The rats

#

Again

sacred sphinx
#

Time to watch this

frozen meteor
sacred sphinx
#

Thank god for the rats existing

granite sluice
#

im going back to fire emblem heroes

lunar sedge
#

So how awful is Noland so far

sacred sphinx
#

Don't know what I'd do without the rats fr fr

river prawn
#

Sadly SLiza can't solo cary dps with Lana and FPhoebe

lapis flint
#

Paulocoin to the moon

bright python
#

if i could one up him again

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for context i one-upped his rats clear on leon

fossil fjord
#

Great, Alt Gloria can barely scratch Noland LarryDead

low coral
#

Tf does one upping mean

bright python
#

basically i beat leon with less invested units than he did although i used the sameu nits

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although its mostly via beating leon with a 1ex nc blue instead of i think his 3 EX one?

plush gale
#

And...I rest my Case

bright python
#

what level were all of them btw

craggy wind
#

Lana the solution? BarryPogChamp

bright python
#

because i think i MIGHT be able to do some more damage

craggy wind
bright python
plush gale
bright python
#

i was close though, 30% left on noland

craggy wind
#

Ok i aint trying tht then

bright python
#

3/5 summer liza

craggy wind
#

It wud be good if we got Damage Chocolat

eternal yacht
craggy wind
bright python
#

but my ssac and ncheren were 1/5

plush gale
#

Mine's 141

eternal yacht
#

i mean move level

#

3/5 or lower

plush gale
#

3/5 Unfortunately

bright python
#

hmmmm

eternal yacht
#

oof

plush gale
#

If you have one

bright python
#

perhaps i could try your method

honest depot
plush gale
#

With an EX Role

bright python
#

both my things are 1/5

eternal yacht
#

Yeah but its at 1/5

plush gale
bright python
#

my lana is 5/5 though

honest depot
#

Can’t believe that shit is possible

bright python
honest depot
#

3/5 for all

plush gale
#

Although you had to time it Carefully one Slipped and Poof you're done son!

sacred sphinx
#

Can you send the grids

honest depot
#

No cakes

#

Sure

granite sluice
#

Of course I'm going to need to power up NC Cheren for this

honest depot
#

They all have an extra 6 energy

bright python
#

there's currently three different runs i want to try

honest depot
bright python
#

rats with 1/5 nc blue
1/5 ncheren and ssac and lana
1/5 ncheren exr and ssac and summer liza

honest depot
#

I think the 3/5 nodes for blue are essential

#

Actually I could see it being done

#

You have 1 free move at the end pretty much

#

So I guess you could make up the damage you get from Blue’s grid with an extra thunder

prisma temple
#

Bruuuuuh
He hits fissure first turn piercing gaze and piercing blow

#

Usually i do my ultimate before coming here

honest depot
#

Rats my beloved

prisma temple
#

What the heck though

honest depot
#

(I still haven’t done Nita)

craggy wind
#

What about NC Red?

#

He got Protect too SophoKEK

prisma temple
#

And unflappable
Who created this Noland who hurt them?!

honest depot
#

I think Nita is low key harder than noland

prisma temple
#

How

honest depot
#

I can’t do Nita WEEZing

prisma temple
#

Nita you control weather and speed debuff
Yeah shes the worst in terms of what you need to do
But not straight up Fissure turn 1

low coral
stoic lake
#

kabu is pretty good for this? 2 protects to block both fissures at 1/5 plus burns to lower sync damage

honest depot
#

If you have a team that can win against noland then it’s pretty straightforward since it’s a shorter battle while at least in my attempts Nita requires a tonne of different factors and rng checks

#

But also I’m just being biased

low coral
#

Sync damage isn't problematic, +10 PMUN sure crit Earthquake is

stoic lake
#

kabu + lana is my go to rn

#

its the damage thats the problem lol

#

and the fact that im out of deluxe cookies :(

prisma temple
#

10+ PMUN EQ just 1 shotted the whole stage

#

Brooo

#

Who cooked this guy

bright python
#

nita is just oppressive

#

dare i say: noland can probably be cheesed a bit

#

if you got the protection units

slow sky
#

bruh wtf

#

this fucker is immune to paralyze also

final yacht
slow sky
#

they really dont want the 1% possibility that noland failed his move cos of para

#

wtf

final yacht
slow sky
#

man

prisma temple
#

Bruuuuuh
I been changing teams like batteries SophoKEK

slow sky
#

I might consider candying SS Mina to 2/5 for her mp refreshable crit shield

bright python
#

dont

#

dont piercing blows hit through that shit?

slow sky
#

this stage is bullshit

#

crit shield doesnt

#

vigilance yes

#

if not its impossible to clear

#

even with NC Cheren

bright python
#

i doubt it

sacred sphinx
#

Why do they even have Unflappable

bright python
#

+10PMUN probably instakills crit shield or not

rain sorrel
#

The best I've gotten so far is hitting his 50% HP threshold and then I get deleted

final yacht
bright python
#

mael woke up

#

do the funny edits now lol

slow sky
#

they even have paralysis immunity

#

its bullshit

fossil fjord
#

Who's the best off-type DPS for this? I don't have Cheren or Ethan
I can take out Noland with Alt Gloria and Lana with wide guard MPR, but the sides destroy me (I tried 3/5 EXR SS Lana)

bright python
#

ash

#

and no i'm not joking

rain sorrel
# final yacht Oh that we knew lol

And people were trying to say that he's stunnable cuz he doesn't gain Condition Nullification.

And his stun immunity before release was an oversight WEEZing

fossil fjord
#

Don't have Ash LarryDead

fossil fjord
low coral
#

Well, I guess B?

gentle wharf
#

What is this madness lol

low coral
#

Blizzard you only use once

#

Since sync OHKOes sides

gentle wharf
#

Also LMAO nothing stops electric Kantrio

warm haven
low coral
warm haven
#

2 dmg, and bmove are excelent for this

fossil fjord
low coral
#

The first sync?

fossil fjord
#

Or you mean syncing with Red?

low coral
#

Sync with Red, yes

final yacht
#

i saw he's immune to para too?

slow sky
#

he is

fossil fjord
#

Then should I just drop Gloria and do standard Irida + NC Red?

#

Wait

#

Fissure

slow sky
#

was testing smth and he got the lithe bullshit coming out

hearty cedar
low coral
#

Red has Protect

#

You can use him as the team's tank

fossil fjord
#

Hm, I can try

gentle wharf
#

So tanking with Ash then?

fossil fjord
#

Just 1 protect tho

low coral
#

More than enough

#

With Chase, Noland never gets to Earthquake

prisma temple
#

How come?

low coral
#

If you don't have Noland, use Grusha to block the Earthquake

prisma temple
#

What chase do

final yacht
#

damn it's been an hour no one submitted a clear SeleneLul shows how annoying he really is uh

low coral
slow sky
#

he's worse than Nita

fossil fjord
#

I don't have Chase or Grusha lmao rip me

gentle wharf
#

People have been submitting clears

low coral
#

I think any Wide Guard might work

gentle wharf
#

There’s an NC Red right there

rich heron
#

NC blue has initial guard

final yacht
fossil fjord
#

Lana it is

hearty cedar
#

Reality of ub's these days

"This is the most oppressive UB so far"
-said every month

low coral
#

Well, guess I'll put mine there then lol

final yacht
#

oh the corean dude is already updating it lol

plush gale
#

Gameplay : At first Glanced this might have been Unbeatable. But, Lana have change the Odds into the Player Sides favour after Noland 2nd Sync Use Cynthia's Sync for Damage Guard then rest goes on and as a Finishing touch I use Fly on Noland with 10 Guaranteed Physical.

Sync Pair(s) :

👑 Cheren (Champion) & Tornadus (Incarnate Form)
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river prawn
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No mf no pf clear

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river prawn
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Proud of my Hoenn gym leaders

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rain sorrel
river prawn
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The seasonals are 3/5

rain sorrel
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Man... LarryDead

river prawn
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But FPhoebe really only needs phantom mpr

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So 2/5

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low coral
rain sorrel
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But she lacks the firepower

rain sorrel
river prawn
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But it was more to show that you don't need broken mfs to clear Noland

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river prawn
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Just a good strategy(and lots of quad qeues)

low coral
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Oh yeah, I was just kidding, the clear itself is solid

rain sorrel
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My Grusha is at 1/5 tho, so there was no way I can get another shield charge

slow sky
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argh this stg is bullshit

low coral
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I, myself, don't really care about a unit rarity, more so quality SeleneLul

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And that one does make good use of all their tools

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river prawn
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It's the most rythmic battle after his 2nd sync

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spiral summit
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Finally

river prawn
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Fissure - sync - Earthquake - sync and so on

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spiral summit
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I must use the delay when enemy kill allies

river prawn
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What do the sides do after mid kill

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fossil fjord
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OH MY GOD, NO WAY

river prawn
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Double Lana clearBarryPogChamp

fossil fjord
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SS Lana the GOAT

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final yacht
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You sure he is really hard? CynthiaSmug