And preferably AoE as well, stuff like Dojo Gloria struggles to keep up
#Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles
low coral
Which is kinda insane to say for a unit that has guaranteed -3 per move and rarely has to click other moves
Even on my run where I used Acerola as the Speed debuffer, I had to use lots of stun extensions
Every other run I believe just runs either an AoE good debuffer or a combination of two debuffers
shrewd marten
Nita also just kinda hits hard
So you have the Annabel problem of this ub wants you to clear a stat check and get rid of extremely annoying gimmicks
Also stat reboot is genuinely awful because of how fast Nita gets speed
stable storm
Every other run I believe just runs either an AoE good debuffer or a combination...
or a good stunner
shrewd marten
i hope someone does it with jacq
low coral
or a good stunner
Which other one did that, actually?
stable storm
nc blue flinch kind of counts as stunning.I also remember seeing a nc rosa clear where sleep was used as a very important tool from Mahesh
(Mahesh is Anni N is back in the war)
low coral
I know, but those are Irida or Cheren runs, no?
stable storm
yeh
low coral
I know who Mahesh is for a pretty long time 
low coral
Cheren and Irida enter the "good AoE debuffers" category
stable storm
could sc Barry keep up with an aoe speed debuffer to support him?
low coral
I want the history lesson
Basically, Anni N was struggling with more recent content, and Mahesh really loves Unova units, especially N
low coral
When NC Leaf came out, you could do stuff like EBEs again with Anni N
And later UBs
That's basically it for him putting that nickname
stable storm
that remindse me,nc leaf won't work that well as a debuffer for nita right?
low coral
that remindse me,nc leaf won't work that well as a debuffer for nita right?
Well, depends
stable storm
sync reboot really messes up her quick-6
low coral
Leaf can't debuff Speed when alone
low coral
She's someone made to help other Speed debuffers
stable storm
could fire comp do nita
low coral
I asked some people to try it since I lack Leaf
stable storm
at first I thought it was very possible but then I read sync reboot
low coral
Generally SS May / NC Leaf / SS Morty or SS Acerola
shrewd marten
I’d try it but the fact I don’t have ssmay is really bad
stable storm
ss may will probably be required
shrewd marten
Generally SS May / NC Leaf / SS Morty or SS Acerola
Ss accerola got oneshot by earth power on my attempt and I just gave up
low coral
But no one has completed it yet
shrewd marten
Like I’m ngl I just gave up the second I saw it
stable storm
fire easily has the weather down at least
low coral
Ss accerola got oneshot by earth power on my attempt and I just gave up
Leaf being Kanto Pride is a problem, yeah
shrewd marten
Well it’s more accerola being made of paper
low coral
I survived Earth Power decently well, but I had Johto Flag Bearer + Kanto Spirit
stable storm
I remember seeing a psychic comp clear on nita(with irida)
low coral
That was at +2 SpA on Landorus
shrewd marten
Mmm I see
I thought about using ncred
With ncleaf
Wasn’t sure if that was cheating or not xd
But theoretically the turn denial would help a lot
low coral
Without either Master Passive, 452 becomes 753
pliant cove
Anyone tried or have a cleared Nita with a team with variety Falkner?
low coral
So it's a huge deal
shrewd marten
Anyone tried or have a cleared Nita with a team with variety Falkner?
Someone has indeed done it
Why that unit of all units though
low coral
Zinfogel did Falkner / Cheren / Anni Steven
shrewd marten
So it's a huge deal
I didn’t realize how impactful masterfair passive was
Scary af
pliant cove
Why that unit of all units though
I lost all hope and want to try somethings
Ah fr? Gtg check zinfogel
shrewd marten
Well if you have that team copy zinfogels video
Deadass though we need a fire dps that isn’t Hilda
Sshilda is really strong but she’s not modern strong
The standards have changed
shrewd marten
So in reality she only has stat drop immunity cuz ncleaf does those gimmicks but better
She’s just a beatstick
And not a particularly strong one anymore
Because again times are zooming forward 
I’m sure she’s still plenty strong but I don’t have her so I wouldn’t be able to verify it anyway
stable storm
huh, are dpses having anti gimmick a lot more important now
shrewd marten
Idk about anti gimmick specifically
stable storm
*utility
shrewd marten
But a lot of top units have something or their damage is reeeeeeeally stupid
Like ncred has both
stable storm
I forgot utility existed in the language language
shrewd marten
Gladion has full immunity and special drops
Cheren just so happens to counter nita
low coral
I like using Blue more than Hilda
stable storm
reflection is a lot better than just immunity I would argue
shrewd marten
reflection is a lot better than just immunity I would argue
I forget he has a reflector gimmick
It just doesn’t come up a lot
Immunity isn’t a very strong anti gimmick anyway
stable storm
oh god fairy weak ub will make it come up a lot won't it
shrewd marten
But regardless hilda is just beatstick and I don’t think she’s exceptionally strong anymore
That is to say she is strong but a lot of strikers hover around that range
stable storm
how many non irida, nc red or cheren clears are there btw
stable storm
That is to say she is strong but a lot of strikers hover around that range
her sync is also not that impressive for a strike anymore
stable storm
I have seen 4 of them so far
stable storm
Ssn ssilver
that clear was insane
shrewd marten
its cool both of them were used
though i imagine ssn could be like any attack dropper
jade marsh
ssn drops speed
low coral
Silver isn't enough
shrewd marten
Ncleaf might be enough :3
low coral
And also it's good to have damage contributions
shrewd marten
But I see your point
low coral
Particularly DPS
shrewd marten
It’s 1/5 dps and ssn isn’t exactly lauded for their dps
Wdym
U gotta press blitz for speed drop
stable storm
from what I saw in the clear ss N was very important in helping bring nita down to neutral speed so Ss silver could actually drop speed
jade marsh
U gotta press blitz for speed drop
fair but you still need to get it to -1 for that to start working
shrewd marten
It would be like
Can the multiplication keep up
Which it could first cycle
But second cycle
shrewd marten
Das wut I said
jade marsh
if/when vlyra gets strike EX role it'd open more teams
shrewd marten
o
pliant cove
Well if you have that team copy zinfogels video
Sadly i dont have the move levels, mine is not that invested 
lone granite
😭
low coral
I have seen 2 nita pre syncs so far
I've done a few with Red + Irida
Thirds from the top of my head that I did were Chase, Tbolt Red, and Rei
SS Lyra too
nocturne arch
Is there any way to beat Hilbert?
Do you think champion Cheren is still acceptable?
stable tundra
Can you show us your Unova roster?
stable tundra
try NC Rosa, SS Hilda and Skyla
hearty cedar
Now that lele has sprint ex, anyone tried the psychic team against palmer ub?
nocturne arch
Ok but for SS Hilda, should I use Special attack or physical attack? Because special feels like it’s heavy damage
stable tundra
physical attack, ofc
V Create is the stronger move overall, and opponents have double base spdef than usual thanks to Wise Entry x2 passive
cosmic token
Ok but for SS Hilda, should I use Special attack or physical attack? Because spe...
Make sure to put Haste LS on Rosa and Skyla to shut down the Speed gimmick
primal leaf
If I have 3/5 SS Kriss, NC red and NC Blue, would it be better to use 2 tech candies to 3/5 NC cheren or irida to beat Nita?
stable tundra
with 3/5 NC Red, you can clear Nita with 1/5 Irida
primal leaf
How? What are the grids and strat?
stable tundra
Red has Hail on first sync tile on his grid, use his sync to get to Nita's 80% HP threshold
primal leaf
Does red just blizzard over and over (after tm) and irida icy wind (after ice wish)?
And blue just discharges continuously?
stable tundra
there is no video of 1/5 Irida clear yet, but it follows the same idea with this tech Lapras clear: https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonMasters/comments/1dfr87v/ub_nita_with_15_irida/?share_id=wIzTPOMLmIDhrfQAgXW1P&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1
Irida has much higher dmg so you have to be careful with HP controlling
primal leaf
Thanks for the link!!
river prawn
Does Nita's sync have unusual BP?
rotund oasis
Maybe u let her sync with sandstorm up or +1 spd up?
river prawn
Even without it's a strong sync so I was wondering
fast pendant
She has the same atk as Thorton, even without modifiers they have very strong syncs
Or dmg in general
valid raft
Even without it's a strong sync so I was wondering
How many attack debuffs she has and how many defense buffs you have?
river prawn
Using NC Blue so it's +5 defenses, but I didn't know she had elevated base stats
valid raft
If Argenta couldn't stop SS Mina, not even Nita can have a chance
fading walrus
Well the two DPS being ground weak forced them to use RNG AF staggering 1 oleana
I'd say that's the most RNG poison duo clear yet imo
fast pendant
I find SS Mina very overrated, despite she being super good
boreal abyss
fast pendant
despite her other qualities, she wouldn't be in all UB's if she simply didn't have rain. UB's being so weather focused gives her this small boost to show way more often
it's like how nobody is gonna say anni steven is a strong unit, but he can show up int that same 3 ub's more than a lot better units due to unique weather removal
fast pendant
but a unit with more similar level as Irida is criticized for being weather removal in those
boreal abyss
I mean our mission with him is to let them know weather wipe is a thing and dragon ascent actually does his job
Ofc we all know he isn't up there in reality
As much as we wish tho the opposite
chilly dawn
Yeah ASteven has a weird niche but hell, if it works it works.
crude marten
dabbo i saw your steven clear 
chilly dawn
I wanna make SS Hilbert work on Nita but I don't think it does
crude marten
snek clears two hardest ub 
chilly dawn
I can't throw him to 4/5 and idk if anyone else has one there
boreal abyss
snek clears two hardest ub <:SidneyYippee:992636893810409472>
He is the goat, ofc he does 
boreal abyss
chilly dawn
What UBs do I even have left actually...
calm sand
boreal abyss
despite her other qualities, she wouldn't be in all UB's if she simply didn't ha...
Anyway I totally get your point
boreal abyss
I remember at her release we were discussing how without certain grid passives and kit stuff she would have been rated worse
chilly dawn
I feel like Anabel should be doable but I need a better multitarget debuffer than NC Serena
The sides end up unkillable
And if you focus the sides you lose to second sync
boreal abyss
Weird cuz from what I know that stage is kinda for her
But I don't have NC Serena so can't judge properly
boreal abyss
Hmm I see
chilly dawn
Yeah the thing is she needs another water DPS and another debuffer and SS Kris
stable tundra
She is able to solo strike with 2 great supports. Also give her Vigilance if you cant beat Anabel pre DH all
exotic dome
I don’t think another debuffer is needed just throw random shurikens to the sides
chilly dawn
Like NC Serena can get the debuffs up for fluid fortif
But she can't reliably clear their buffs
And it gets problematic
stable tundra
That's not true
chilly dawn
I mean she has random debuffs and it's ST
Every time I've tried throwing shurikens to the sides, she dies to second sync and mid is nowhere near dead
If you don't, mid dies but the sides toast you in two moves
SS Kris/NC Serena is the core I've tried but I can't get a working third.
I tried NC Calem and that failed
Tried Kris once, went the same way
Might try May? Not sure.
... Do I try Dojoria?
And can someone link functioning grids for Anabel pls?
spiral summit
Every time I've tried throwing shurikens to the sides, she dies to second sync a...
Idk how you let Anabel lives for 2nd Sync
What is your NC Serena move level ?
chilly dawn
3
If she isn't hard focused throughout, she doesn't die in time
My Water types for options
chilly dawn
Probably grid issue
The best I ever got was double frog and ss kris
Three support exs really got things going but serena couldn't solo dps
chilly dawn
And Calem's rain somehow lined up to clear her postsync sun
silver spruce
I can't throw him to 4/5 and idk if anyone else has one there
I have him at 5:5 what are you pairing with Hilbert?
spiral summit
And i still able to killed Anabel before 2nd Sync
chilly dawn
Yeah I think it's a grid issue
My grid is like
Refreshing rain, soften up, power play, furious brain
chilly dawn
https://youtu.be/ZJDHKQUnYAM?si=beMHSfnS9UqVOpAw
What grids did you use?
Trying to rejig mine
spiral summit
stable tundra
you can try May instead
chilly dawn
I've gridded Elio for it so I'mma try that first
If it fails, it fails, we try something else.
Ok having watched I think no EX should be fine
spiral summit
Ok. How necessary is Elio EX?
No, bc your Cerena has cake
chilly dawn
That was precake so I think Serena syncing 2nd and onwards should cover yeah
Well here we go
chilly dawn
Yeah the mpa mpr just isn't in my favour
shrewd marten
Now that lele has sprint ex, anyone tried the psychic team against palmer ub?
It’s already won hasn’t it
hearty cedar
Did it? I might have missed it
sour elk
Yeah, NC Rosa + SS Lana have already presync'd Palmer with both SS Steven and Jacq as main damage dealers
Before SS Lana's sprint was released
hearty cedar
I see
nocturne arch
ok I finally beat to take on hilbert. I was panicked because after i took down hilbert, i dont know who to attack next so i guess right so i can get a attack skip
valid raft
What team?
nocturne arch
NC rosa skyla and SS Hilda
valid raft
@low coral You think that you can try grass team on Nita?
elfin kindle
Is it possibly to beat Hilbert with this?
stable tundra
you should change Hilbert to OG Skyla
be sure to give both dmg dealers Haste lucky skill
snow spruce
Leons sync is Special and Nitas sync is Physical, right ?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J_Wf9t4ZIOMwdlYEsIzgENDdYCut-AEX0pJiwbcIrVY/edit?gid=1728091004#gid=1728091004
this doesnt list it
stable tundra
Yes
elfin kindle
you should change Hilbert to OG Skyla
Okay, I wasn't sure cause Skyla needs 2 more atk ups
inner heath
you can use fanfare grid for og skylar, gives +2 atk
elfin kindle
you can use fanfare grid for og skylar, gives +2 atk
Alright, thanks.
formal crescent
Any accessible Hilbert clears?
elfin kindle
I just can't deal enough damage against Hilbert himself.
half pivot
Do I just say fuck it and let iono be my damage dealer for cheren or should I use someone else?
stable tundra
Use Elesa + a good spdef buffer + someone to inflict a status change like rebuff
stable tundra
I just can't deal enough damage against Hilbert himself.
Can you show us your Unova roster?
half pivot
Use Elesa + a good spdef buffer + someone to inflict a status change like rebuff
I don’t think I got anyone who can apply rebuff
Besides I think adaman but I know I shouldn’t pair him with them
stable tundra
You can use trap or confusion too
vale pivot
NC Red, Irida and Aura Cynthia
get destroyed by Nita, help
stable tundra
What move level are they? And have you watched the video proof and follow steps by steps?
hard lantern
Nita's sync oneshots Irida. Even with ground guard. Even with winter coat 2.
final yacht
Guards dont reduce sync damage right
final yacht
Yeah I was gonna say
jade marsh
for Nita you really have to address speed and even outside of that the sync will hurt just cause it's naturally strong
if you can afford to, fit attack debuffs into your team
it's still tankable without that but it's harder
hard lantern
What more can i do? Ssac already maxed out everyone's def
jade marsh
are you running arctic arrival on your irida?
hard lantern
Yeah
jade marsh
if that is the case you're not maxing but doing +4
unless you do TM by like turn 3 after Cynthia sync
hard lantern
Oh crap you're right
jade marsh
fwiw i found blue to be the better tank here just cause nita allows stuns but i recognize not everyone might have him
hard lantern
The initial ice zone isn't useful anyway. Time to regrid i guess
jade marsh
it is but also isn't, you do need to wipe the sand
hard lantern
fwiw i found blue to be the better tank here just cause nita allows stuns but i ...
Nc blue?
jade marsh
nc blue yes
though if you time it right you can use Red's hail on sync to wipe one of the sandstorms
i'd recommend having a check at the pinned message, there's a document listing some clears for Nita and video of them + grids
if you can recreate one of the teams i'd try it
hard lantern
Ok, i'll have a look before trying again
Thanks 
shrewd marten
She’s just really strong
stable storm
https://youtu.be/9o_YjKHp6XM
poison makes sense even through ground weak.Oleana can keep up extremely well with nita
the level of rng is expected imo
super impressive clear tho. The jp community is insane
shrewd marten
Poison team has been on replays for a while now
valid raft
I wonder what people would think of Nita if she was immune to disabling statuses
stable storm
I wonder what people would think of Nita if she was immune to disabling statuses
satan x10000000
stable tundra
you need to make sure none of your pairs has their speed below 0, inflict a status change and use at least a physical dmg dealer
stable tundra
not burn or paralyze, they are status conditions
status changes are trap, confusion, rebuff..., with rebuff being the best option
fierce zodiac
Ahh I see
shrewd marten
I wonder what people would think of Nita if she was immune to disabling statuses
Borderline impossible
Literally need cheren and irida
rotund oasis
i managed to win Nita UB with flinch + freeze so.... if she did have Flinch Immunity + Freeze Immunity, it'd be extremely difficult as soon as they start spamming Speed All Plus.
(+ her TM use too. that +4SPD is not good at all.)
valid raft
Borderline impossible
I like the sound of that
fierce zodiac
status changes are trap, confusion, rebuff..., with rebuff being the best option
Got it down. Used hilda emboar thanks
stable tundra
broken crag
I wonder what people would think of Nita if she was immune to disabling statuses
prob gonna be next UB
stable tundra
https://youtu.be/VT9Zt3xclWo another brute force clear on Leon
stone scarab
I wonder what people would think of Nita if she was immune to disabling statuses
Shes already the worst of the lot, lets not make that even worse
valid raft
The matchup chart has been removed?
errant kite
does something need to be done to the sides in Hilda's Part 2 EBE?
NC Bianca is hitting with the force of a wet tissue
ah. negative status change
jade marsh
does something need to be done to the sides in Hilda's Part 2 EBE?
is hilda flying or fighting weak?
iirc that one has split entrys
errant kite
flying
valid raft
Hilda is neutral
errant kite
no wonder Bianca ain't doing anything to the sides
valid raft
Same for Hilbert, but Hilbert's sides have WE x3
jade marsh
ah i thought she had wise or something, nvm
valid raft
They want you to really worry about the sides more than the mid
valid raft
Now this is a water team
https://youtu.be/GyJBGjjjOPE?si=0wsmVK6IvA6tOXcs
stable storm
does fire have a clear yet
chilly dawn
Ffs I keep getting rnged by anabel
It's not even something I can control
Serena doesn't ever roll atk down and I don't get enough mini potion mprs
stable tundra
it will help a lot if you can record your gameplay
and remember to give everyone Vigilance when you can't beat her before she uses Dire hit+ All
chilly dawn
Vigilance isn't needed
There's no crits
It's just aoed to death bc everyone is +3 atk
And we have no def buffs
stable tundra
pick Team Stoic on Kris then
stable tundra
it will help a lot if you can record your gameplay
raven wharf
How the hell do you do Hilbert
The only accessible team I have that's in the sheets is sstred ssmorty ncblue
But I ain't spending 100000 sync orbs for 600 gems
stable tundra
can you show me your Unova roster?
raven wharf
stable tundra
how about offregion supports with rebuff like NC Blue or Penny? the lack of NC Rosa hurts
stable tundra
use him, Skyla and NC Nate then
silver spruce
Just getting diced
What's your team? I remember having to run some bullshit level supports just to carry me when I used Volcanion to clear it
stable tundra
SS Kris, NC Serena and Elio
silver spruce
If he has NC Blue pairing him with Kris and Serena is a gauranteed clear
otherwise I'd grab a better second dps or defense buffer for kris
those bulldozes definitely hurt
stable tundra
good point
silver spruce
Also team fire guard for the eruptions and side heat waves
Has innate vigilance to so could run fast track or defense crush
maybe something like that with flameproof as ls, you can do vampire gaming with lana as tank and ease kris to just mini potion when needed
fringe stratus
stable tundra
every sync
chilly dawn
Every sync but equally you don't want her doing more than one anyway
pale mica
hearty cedar
You mean post lando's 1st sync?
low coral
No, it really depends, to me, it looks like the rotation was optimal
First, Dancing Ice Beam there would mean Garchomp would later be hit by a much weaker Icy Wind due to having a Speed buff, possibly leading to it not being KOed by the sync
Second, you would make Landorus endure earlier, which you don't want to, as you're forced to use Ice Wish again
white badger
Any advice on who to use for Hilbert if I don't have NC Bianca?
cloud badge
So little pairs for these EBs
Didn’t find one for Lodge N with nc Rosa
white badger
I can grab what Unova pairs I have.
I'm worri4d because I don't know a way to deal much damage. Is it a forced phys stage or something?
shrewd marten
https://youtu.be/4xiybQiIoKs?si=fyHNEZVC5xo0RbL1
Holy shit is this damage from unova solidarity
hearty cedar
Its the culmination of power + crowd control + zones + circles + rebuffs
That team has everything(except mildling bulk ig)
shrewd marten
I just mean I’ve never had a ncred first sync do 100k
hearty cedar
Of course it wouldn't work on ubs with flinch immunity
white badger
Any way to deal with this EB?
hearty cedar
I just mean I’ve never had a ncred first sync do 100k
Pretty sure chase's circle would also boost him up. So yes circles matter, in this case, unova solidarity
shrewd marten
Well
I don’t have circles
I now want circles
I have to think
Did I accidentally dodge every circle unit
I was gonna get bianca but cheren said fu
Damn
shrewd marten
Hilbert wants speed down and rebuff
So you can do it
And a physical attacker of course but not the hardest thing to get
I think a piercing blows unit is enough too
Don’t even need cheren then
gritty vine
i think someone beat hilbert with 3/5 N?
white badger
This is the team I was using for Bianca. What to switch out?
shrewd marten
Doesn’t the middle have sentry entry
shrewd marten
i think someone beat hilbert with 3/5 N?
All Ns have some utility here
We Stan piercing blows cuz that’s what bianca has
cloud badge
Any pairs to pair with Lodge N for this?
white badger
These are the strike/tech pairs with phys moves I have
stone scarab
Doesn’t the middle have sentry entry
All 3 have wise entry on the hilbert fight
And on the hilda fight the sides specifically have sentry entry
shrewd marten
I did it with Rosa ssn and I think lodge elesa
cloud badge
Any thoughts?
calm sand
I think having Hilbert is a bit redundant, but it should work I think
calm sand
Do you have any Unovan offensive debuffer?
Oh wait a minute, I realised you need a speed debuffer for that one
white badger
Um...?
calm sand
Yea, that’s quite bad
You can drop Headstrong and Unbending for more multipliers
You could try running this
cloud badge
Who to pair with her and ncRosa?
cloud badge
CS2 good on Skyla?
calm sand
Yes
cloud badge
I have Vigilance on her from I think old battle
I also have 4/5 SS N
Ex'd
So him or Ghetsis?
calm sand
For against Hilda specifically, Ghetsis is slightly better because of the sidemons having Sentry Entry x3
I think
SS N is better against the Hilbert stage
cloud badge
What grid for Ghetsis then?
And also lucky skills for him and 2/5ex nc Rosa
calm sand
CS2 on Ghetsis, Vigilance on NC Rosa
calm sand
Basically
cloud badge
Ok so I'll need to setup Ghetsis
calm sand
I’m not sure what his best set-up would be, but I definitely would recommend Cold Snap 2 and Double Drop Noble Roar
cloud badge
calm sand
Don’t forget to pick up the free tile 😉
cloud badge
Lower speed it's all?
When to lower attack
shrewd marten
There’s something just very wrong with the amount of damage you’ve done
cloud badge
Hmm maybe 2/5 nc Rosa bad?
calm sand
I also noticed you didn’t give the rebuffs to the sides
cloud badge
Is that very important for sides?
Bc main issue is Sync I think?
Trying to get 3/5 on Rosa now
calm sand
All the Pokémon has No Negative Status Change Defenses x3
stable storm
do you have lodge elesa
ghetsis should be enough of a speed debuffer but in case somehow that's not enough you can try lodge elesa
cloud badge
I do have Lodge Elesa
white badger
Still waiting for advice...
calm sand
I did manage to win with the same team myself
Do note my Lodge Skyla is not EX'd
Idea was to keep using Glaciate with Ghetsis and if the opponent doesn’t have a speed buff a Noble Roar before Hilda’s sync
Also, my clear wasn’t perfect, feel kinda sleepy 
calm sand
Still waiting for advice...
Can I check your Unova roster for suggestions?
cloud badge
Also, my clear wasn’t perfect, feel kinda sleepy <:RileyHaha:612408184669470730>
Thanks
I just did a 3/5 for Nc Rosa
What do I do here?
T- move, Go viral and Easy Pickings seem convincing
calm sand
I honestly would recommend picking up Team Stoic and Team Force Field the most
Stage tend to clear off Confusion rather quickly
white badger
Can I check your Unova roster for suggestions?
calm sand
I’d say use Hilda as your striker
And either run Spring Burgh or Lodge Elesa as your secondary support for Accuracy buffs
cloud badge
🤔
calm sand
You can try
cloud badge
Thank you!
Done!
Now Hilbert hmm
Can 1/5 ex role Hilda do the battle from pin @calm sand ?
fair scaffold
HELP!
I suck and have no idea how to beat any of the Ultimates
I can say which ones I got?
fair scaffold
Hello?
white badger
I’d say use Hilda as your striker
Okay, never mind, this team does not work, why did you suggest Hilda as the striker when she does such terrible damage?
silver spruce
Okay, never mind, this team does not work, why did you suggest Hilda as the stri...
I think the stage calls for physical damage so Hilda is better over cheren here
white badger
I think the stage calls for physical damage so Hilda is better over cheren here
She sucks at doing damage though.
Max attack, max crit flare blitz was just doing chip damage.
silver spruce
Her damage will be coming from sync. You could try sc Emmet also if you want secondary damage
white badger
Her damage will be coming from sync. You could try sc Emmet also if you want sec...
That did squat to the middle, even with a Support sync pre-empt.
Why was she picked in particular?
...hello? Can you back this up? Because this doesn't seem like a good pick.
crude marten
https://youtu.be/4xiybQiIoKs?si=fyHNEZVC5xo0RbL1
bianca propaganda
fair scaffold
#poma-lounge message
This is my list of units
silver spruce
...hello? Can you back this up? Because this doesn't seem like a good pick.
Because she’s one of the more available physical strikers
Here that’s a 1/5 Rosa and 1/5 Emmet
white badger
...I posted what units I have, what on any of the physical strikers listed in there?
silver spruce
Get lucky with easy accuracy buffs and you’ll be fine
See my response
Emmet will serve you fine
I missed a lot of mega horns at the end so there is room for error
white badger
Emmet will serve you fine
Max defenses, max level, EX, near full HP... and dies to a Blizzard.
Also, HORRIBLE gauge.
silver spruce
How is gauge horrible skyla maxes speed and you have long animation from Rosa.
white badger
...I'm not using Skyla.
white badger
...where?
silver spruce
This photo
white badger
...that was the team I used for Hilda.
white badger
...I swear to God, you aren't listening.
How will physical buffs save me from a special attack?
silver spruce
Rosa with force field will buff spdef
white badger
I had max special defense, I already said this.
white badger
...I did. He was at near max health, if not max health.
silver spruce
Yup
white badger
So I have to blow potions on even a sliver of damage on my DPS while my tanks die?
silver spruce
You can fish for easy picking drops with Rosa if you want
No you heal after blizzard
Skyla is just spamming gust anyways after the buff
white badger
This is the team I'm using.
silver spruce
I’d go skyla over burgh personally
white badger
Why? They raise accuracy.
silver spruce
Rosa will raise accuracy eventually with her b move anyways
sacred sphinx
SC Emmet raises his own accuracy too when you use his TM
sacred sphinx
And yea, Skyla is more useful imo due to the speed
silver spruce
Skyla tanking also means Rosa doesn’t need to be healed for her b move as much
white badger
Barely made it.
tawdry sail
I have the tools to beat Nita but literally at a loss of what to do no matter what I watch for reference
silver spruce
Barely made it.
You won though?
violet tundra
if i use nc red and irida (both level 3) against nita, what support do i need?
valid raft
Depends, even NC Blue can't pre-sync Nita
silver spruce
If you have nc blue he’s always great but there was a clear with melony too
errant kite
You won though?
Thank you very much for your advice
crude marten
if i use nc red and irida (both level 3) against nita, what support do i need?
support tends to be flexible, a stunner would be nice
silver spruce
Thank you very much for your advice
?
valid raft
support tends to be flexible, a stunner would be nice <:DawnNom:6324386439356743...
Red is already that
crude marten
Depends, even NC Blue can't pre-sync Nita
also nc blue did presync
valid raft
also nc blue did presync
Really? I didn't know
errant kite
?
I was following the discussion and your advice was good, I may use it myself
(I can't beat one of these battles, so)
violet tundra
baaah, dont have nc blue unfortunately
should i send my supports here
valid raft
Go ahead
violet tundra
the yoinky sploinky
shrewd marten
Is penny op lol
I think I saw a clear with ncleaf pseudo tanking
So if u have her rolex
faint goblet
Took down Hilbert pt2 at last. This would have been significantly easier if I candied Neo Rosa, but at least it is theoretically possible to win with all three members at 1/5
Turns out, if I can't get Neo Bianca in time for her Evasion ignore... Champion Iris will do in a pinch with Piercing Gaze.
Just barely knocked Hilbert out before his Dire Hit All Plus, and then the problems just evaporated.
All three members had Haste as their Lucky, because this fight is horrific about inflicting Speed Down and punishing it with damage multipliers
hearty cedar
Gratz
Seems like ss morty + nc.cheren + nc.nate could work against nita
I'll try it a bit later when I'm free. Anyone can test this comp in the meantime?
supple reef
if anyone still didnt do hilda pt2
cait must be lv150 and blue ex (preferably 3/5)
(and you need to be FAST while queueing moves + praying for flinches)
peak mist
how good is nc cheren so far in UB performance? 1/5
violet tundra
baaah, dont have nc blue unfortunately
should i send my supports here
sigh...nc blue rerun when
clever widget
how good is nc cheren so far in UB performance? 1/5
He’s beaten all of them to my knowledge (not sure about Nita), but idt at 1/5
valid raft
He’s beaten all of them to my knowledge (not sure about Nita), but idt at 1/5
He beat Nita
stable storm
he has beaten nita more than anyone except ice duo
vast night
Is there a way to clear the extreme battles for hilbert snd hilda
stable tundra
Yes, check the EBE doc in the pins out
faint goblet
The Hilbert battle still has no Accessible clears in that doc 
Though it might be too late, since it ends in 15 minutes I think
faint goblet
Took down Hilbert pt2 at last. This would have been significantly easier if I ca...
I was able to do it with N/Kyurem, Neo Rosa, and Champion Iris all 1/5, but all with Haste as their Lucky Skill
...It took several tries.
vast night
I did and most of those teams I don’t have or are purely RNG fights
stable tundra
Can you show us your Unova roster?
vast night
I beta Hilda stage one but I can’t beat Hilbert at all
And I couldn’t beat Hilda with that video because of the RNG
faint goblet
Ten minutes left...
vast night
For which fight
stable tundra
Hilbert
faint goblet
The enemy uses Slo-Mo, not Trip Up + Ripple
stable tundra
For Hilda replace OG Skyla with Ghetsis or L Elesa
faint goblet
Fortunately, SS Hilda has Downside up and I think Skyla has innate Haste
Maybe Skyla should tank since she can afford Vigilance...
Champion Iris (also with a lucky cookie for Haste) can be helpful here since she has Piercing Gaze and can counter the enemy's buffs
vast night
I tried using Iris but she just did no damage
Well at least I got both level ones done lol thanks yall
stable storm
was seeing if I could lower the gear investment on dark 's argenta clear (thanks for the clear to him btw. It was very well explained) .If you take 4 extra energy to pick up the 40 hp tile you can do the clear gearless all of the time except when psychic didn't drop my special defence. A lot of people don't exactly like grinding gears or don't know how to so I tried this
stable storm
0
jade marsh
Ah
stable storm
I have gears empty
jade marsh
Ah i c
Iirc i used 3* for that, would indeed work
I think it was poison for gladion
stable storm
that clear must have taken a long time to come up with btw. I copied your sequence and was still suffering
jade marsh
Nah it didn’t take me that long
Darach though,,,,
That dude is terrorizing my stealth rocks,,,
I’ve been so close for so long 😭
stable storm
I remember when I first did argenta grinding for gears didn't feel very good. Imo orbs are easier than gears for people who will attempt ubs so I wanted to see if energy expansion could help
stable storm
I’ve been so close for so long 😭
gl
jade marsh
I remember when I first did argenta grinding for gears didn't feel very good. Im...
I don’t disagree there
stable storm
f2p ub clears are fun to watch
lemme send the energy expanded syca grid
this clear also is slightly less hellish if you focus everything except the first poison and trap on slowbro and ignore argenta and starmie for until you argenta syncs or is about to sync then you fang starmie and trap argenta under sand to drop attack
jade marsh
Good to know
stable storm
was seeing if I could lower the gear investment on dark 's argenta clear (thanks...
the same team with a few grid changes to account for lower bulk caused by no gear
stable tundra
we have had NC Blue Ghetsis V Lyra clear for a while
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EohZaZNdVic Lucy UB is not a hard stage at all but it's nice to see some Victor appreciation
hearty cedar
Hope someone tries this ub with nc.nate
shrewd marten
if anyone still didnt do hilda pt2
I mean there’s a full f2p clear
spiral summit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EohZaZNdVic Lucy UB is not a hard stage at all b...
Funny that Lucy is too weak that Victor didn’t eat any berry
stable tundra
valid raft
I mean there’s a full f2p clear
It's over already
spiral summit
Look at 2 UB that requires speed debuff, one is bullied by us, one kicks us
shrewd marten
Look at 2 UB that requires speed debuff, one is bullied by us, one kicks us
Lucy was nice nita was like how dare you think she’s easy
spiral summit
Us: Ice Weak ? This will be easy
stable tundra
she belike don't let Ice weakness fouls you (it did)
spiral summit
Also us:
spiral summit
she belike don't let Ice weakness fouls you (it did)
Many people thought Pryce will clear this with his new LS
shrewd marten
They didn’t expect nita to be Annabel tier
fading walrus
I thought irida + ghetsis could clear relatively easily
It can but it's not as free as I thought at all
hearty cedar
They tried to overcompensate nc.red's power level by making her this troublesome
fading walrus
Pretty fucked up considering what grass and electric got imo
stone scarab
I mean, to be fair, Leon's fight was also pretty bad. Not this level, but the constant high power single target moves were annoying
stable tundra
Leon rivaled with Anabel in terms of both hardest and restricted UB until Nita comes
grizzled portal
<:PrycePain:971377771987206154>
To be fair there was a clear with an eggmon 
stable tundra
but yeah Argenta is pretty lame
stone scarab
Argenta, yeah, but grass isn't in as good a spot as these three types at the top level
warm haven
Nita is like a the stongest UBs combined
Restricted by weather and debuffs like anabel. Strong moves like Leon and basically a time bomb like palmer but at the 2nd sync
you can even add the annoying 2 endures and sure crit like lucy
slow sky
They tried to overcompensate nc.red's power level by making her this troublesome
i never understood why they even do this when he's supposedly the go-to unit for this stage
low coral
He's not
He's just still really good for it, but the supposed go-to unit here is Irida
slow sky
the tanky sides means that he is really wanted here together with irida
Irida alone cant take down the sides fast enough after mid goes down
warm haven
He's just still really good for it, but the supposed go-to unit here is Irida
is she really
slow sky
if the sides arnt that stupidly tanky then yeah irida is definitely the go-to
warm haven
at least not her alone, not enough damage or debuffing speed
slow sky
if they really meant her for the clear, it should be like Anabel
tanky mid, but sides are just uhhhh
not that bad
warm haven
also two endures are a pain for high sync tech dmg but perfect for mid-high damage aoe sync like red's
low coral
She 100% is
Just because a unit is the go-to, it doesn't mean they'll solo
Even Tbolt Red can't solo the stage where he's the go-to
Red is a high damage unit here, but he doesn't trivialize the stage like Irida or NC Cheren do
warm haven
I didnt mean they should solo. But that irida needs help dealing with the stage gimmick, with either flinches or more speed debuffs. Two endures and bulky sides favors striker syncs and red also has hail on sync that overrides the instant sandstorm.
So it's not about irida, but irida + red
On the other side, SST Red does get rid of all Leon's gimmicks
stable tundra
So it's not about irida, but irida + red
with bulky sides + the hippo having unlimited sandstorm make me agree on this
low coral
There's no unit that's really meant to just deal with all their gimmicks themselves
Red still isn't the best at reapplying Paralysis, for example
Even with grid, he only has a single target 50% chance on the move that does 0 damage
Cerena doesn't remove sun from Anabel
SS Diantha struggles with Zone uptime vs Darach
NC Leaf has a single target sync, yet the sides are supposed to always resist her DPS vs Thorton
Rei or Hop alone for sure don't have the output for Palmer
Etc.
If anything, Irida does have all the tools to deal with Nita, she's just pretty restricted on her rotation
slow sky
the sides shouldn't be that insanely tanky in that case
low coral
Again, you're looking at it as if it's a solo clear
silver spruce
It's still nice to see some variety in the nita clears. Leon still is pretty sparse for diversity beyond rats
slow sky
she needs more than a secondary dps tbh
like an unit capable of dealing 134938297492 dmg to all sides
silver spruce
I mean we've seen her clear with ghetsis. A strong single target nuke with some sort of aoe is enough
slow sky
its good that ghetsis has speed debuffs from his moves as well to keep up with the speed debuff nonsense for sure too
low coral
That sounds pretty silly to me, Cerena's matchup vs Anabel is also trash by that logic
Even worse, in fact
low coral
She has absolutely 0 means of removing rain
silver spruce
Anabel without Serena is pretty tough
slow sky
and at least, Anabel is the only 1 with insane hp
low coral
Anabel without Serena is pretty tough
And Nita without Cheren or Irida is much worse
slow sky
the sides ain't that bad
silver spruce
I'd still rather play without Irida than do another clear against anabel using Volcanion because I dont have the frog
calm sand
Speed debuffers are also relatively rare
low coral
I'd still rather play without Irida than do another clear against anabel using V...
I wouldn't, Anabel's clears are far more varied than Nita's in comparison
silver spruce
I agree but I don't like trying to juggle with variety lyra
slow sky
I can't even replay my clear on this stage with NC Blue, NC Cheren and SS Morty anymore due to the timing needed for the flinch to proc
fading walrus
I mean, to be fair, Leon's fight was also pretty bad. Not this level, but the co...
Yeah but electr had much more options
calm sand
Ice options are more limited compared to Electric
slow sky
I gave up bothering trying to recreate that
low coral
I'd still rather play without Irida than do another clear against anabel using V...
What are you even running, in that case?
calm sand
despite how similar the 2 stages are stat-wise
silver spruce
How many of those even were used with leon though
fading walrus
All of them
calm sand
Ice has like NC Red, Irida, SS Silver, SS N???
silver spruce
What are you even running, in that case?
I almost have the right investment for the silver clear
silver spruce
yup but I still struggled to keep SS Lysandre in the thresholds needed when i did anabel
It's probably easier now with the tech ex role
silver spruce
Fair I just don't like how they treated Irida needing to set hail herself for ice zone
and no mpr on a master fair is just evil
especially when she released with a unit that has permanent sun
warm haven
Speaking of, irida has a better matchup against anabel than nita
fading walrus
I wouldn't say that but she's definitely really great for both
silver spruce
She offers a solid mid ground counter to free up team building for both
low coral
The only reason you can say that is because Nita is busted af, the entire game basically has a better Anabel matchup than a Nita matchup lol
Not the first time that happens either when gimmicks overlap, Tbolt Red has a better Darach matchup than Leon matchup
silver spruce
very true
warm haven
Yeah
shrewd marten
Irida is one of the 2 main units that actually can counter her
She is definitely made for it
And like ncheren probably wasn’t designed for this fight but he is exceptional for it
Cuz speed
Everything else is a tad more scuffed
quaint moss
Is it possible to do smnthg with a Irida 1/5? I have NC Red 3/5 and mostly all other busted units in the game but my irida is undortunately still at 1 :'')
and CherenNC 2/5
sour elk
Yeah, you could even clear with egg Lapras in place of Irida
https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonMasters/s/lSbPZesXbt
This was a clear showcase on Nita using NC Red, NC Blue and 1/5 Irida
spark isle
I prolly should post this on salt but
Ahe literaly greeted me the day after her extreme battle was announced and she is atm the only one i can't beat
And she also gave me 2 skip tickets after it
Pet
hearty cedar
Is it possible to do smnthg with a Irida 1/5? I have NC Red 3/5 and mostly all o...
Then you'll have to use ss morty as your support. 1/5 irida could work but you'll need a bit of mishmash with team comps to compensate the extra weather. You have 2 options
-
Ss morty as your support to replace 1 sand while irida replaces the other 2 sands
-
Power through the 1st sandstorm until nita hits 80% health and then replace it. Few teams have done this but this is a bit dangerous
boreal abyss
Having the time of my life with NC Bianca, what a unit!
north chasm
she is so good
convinced they gave her strike role to nerf her
a shame her team evasion buffs aren't useful in UBs, but she still has so much else going for her
low coral
Tbf, unless she got a innate, idt Tech EX would change her much
It's mostly being Field that would really change her, I believe
crude marten
Having the time of my life with NC Bianca, what a unit!
i like her kit a lot
boreal abyss
i like her kit a lot <:DawnNom:632438643935674381>
Me too dear
Was even running the wrong grid on all of them three units but it was going so flawless still thanks to her
Everything was working perfectly, even potion rng lmfao
crude marten
Everything was working perfectly, even potion rng lmfao
shes perfect afterall 
boreal abyss
shes perfect afterall <:BiancaWhine:1111858587417972798>
Gonna try more fun stuff next times but I know she has the potential of like doing whatever probably
I tried a full fighting on Palmer for fun, I got a damage-less pre sync run
shrewd marten
shes perfect afterall <:BiancaWhine:1111858587417972798>
She have clear on all ub?
crude marten
I tried a full fighting on Palmer for fun, I got a damage-less pre sync run <:ra...
damageless as in end the fight with full health? 
boreal abyss
Yes
crude marten
She have clear on all ub?
she probably could
crude marten
ive done my part on palmer and nita 
boreal abyss
I recall done already Anabel Thorton Darach Palmer Lucy Argenta Nita
Just Leon? Or done already?
crude marten
i dont think ive seen leon clear
stone scarab
critical immunity when not statused, defenses tripled with no field effect, clears statuses multiple times and field effect on endure
crude marten
time to 
hearty cedar
Just Leon? Or done already?
NC Bianca has clears for all ubs in the replay section except for Argenta and now you have that too.
Leon was defeated with bianca + bellelba + geeta
She has offtype clears on all ubs iirc(palmer is an exception for obvious reasons)
Oh yeah, bianca's nita clear with morty + cheren doesnt play in the replay section so why not try that team and upload it along with the argenta one
boreal abyss
Ah oke then, job done for NC Bianca
valid raft
Who need supports anyways
Bianca is technically a support 
uncut drum
Bianca is technically a support <:RoarkNerd:1139314246824513617>
Well yes but actually no
warm haven
And Palmer doesn't need supports eitherway 
uncut drum
Yeah, I just used SC Steven as a meatshield
Could've putted Bianca instead tbh and then all three would likely live
uncut drum
agile wave
not even close
rich heron
Who need supports anyways
U r using Bianca support technically
ripe juniper
Les go Lucy's ub cleared with these guys
spice basin
uncut drum
Still, doing WTZ-less clear on Darach is insane
fading walrus
These are also very long
It's not "hard" if you can stack defensively enough tbfh
Triple vigilance carries a ton with good enough support
final yacht
I love it when people submit grid like this
use your fucking energy
@magic sundial is this the actual grid you used or is it a fail
IT'S EMPTY 
I love it when everything's at 0, can we keep it like this for a while please 
(i bet there's already a new submission by tomorrow)
stone scarab
Darach is generally considered easier
His gimmick is easier to fit on a team since you're almost always going to want to run WTZ with your damage dealers for this already, while Thorton wants both categories of damage, a non-interference negative status change, and defense debuffing
silver spruce
Darach also doesn’t hit as hard. Thornton is really limited by rebuff or restrain demand
magic sundial
<@1070915442819993681> is this the actual grid you used or is it a fail
yes, it is.
broken crag
the last two UB only with team clears in the 20s
inb4 next UB team clears will be in the single digits
stone scarab
I doubt its gonna get worse than Nita any time soon, or anything particularly close to these last two unless the next UB happens to be fairy weak
shrewd marten
I love it when everything's at 0, can we keep it like this for a while please <:...
a nice 22 runs for nita
its so badge
exotic dome
Hope Nita doesn’t join rally anytime soon
snow spruce
https://www.youtube.com/@user-hx7bw4fp8e/videos
Does anyone know if he will be posting the 2 missing Flying team UB clears (Darach and Lucy) ?
I know they're the easiest, but still need to have them done for completion sake
proud marten
they could leave nita as a cresselia case where it exists but it's never added to any rotations
and yeah i agree
crude marten
https://www.youtube.com/@user-hx7bw4fp8e/videos
Does anyone know if he will be p...
probably not worth uploading cause its a guaranteed clear
snow spruce
Well I hope he or someoine else does them eventually.
Especially if that same team (Cheren-Skyla-Mina) can do the next UB as well.
hearty cedar
Next ub will probably be focused on nc.nate ig
Like bring zone and dragon weak
If thats the case then the cheren team should be able to clear without issues
stable storm
TF am I looking at
iono best striker
stable storm
I doubt its gonna get worse than Nita any time soon, or anything particularly cl...
istg if the worse than nita cuz fairy thing happens
fast pendant
Fairy gimmick are mostly SP.atk down and confusion, I don't think it would
stone scarab
Even fairy weak i would strongly doubt would be worse than nita. Its just what I consider the strongest type that doesn't have an UB rn
river prawn
Poison could be tricky too
stone scarab
Don't worry they'll just give that fight lessen poison 7 we'll totally be able to stall it
stable tundra
but they have Latias' passives and Stat ↑: P-Move, S-Move & M-Move ↑9
stone scarab
fading walrus
but they have Latias' passives and Stat ↑: P-Move, S-Move & M-Move ↑9
Ssleaf + NC blue don't care bruh
bright python
Honestly I think Leon's UB would be far more difficult to do if it didn't seem like everyone and their mother has the rats and zapdos
I think there it's a case of "we built it heavily around a specific unit, but everyone has the said unit"
stone scarab
i mean, yeah thats basically what went on
shrewd marten
Well
stone scarab
Leon in a vacuum is top 3 hardest UBs for sure
shrewd marten
I found a way to do it without it(I haven’t performed it cuz 80% is cringe but still)
Nita however feels impossible without ssilver (but he’s special cuz I saw that one thing lol) or cheren or irida
Like yes I saw that poison and vlyra clear
slow sky
Honestly I think Leon's UB would be far more difficult to do if it didn't seem l...
me who is the minority who never bothered to go for rats
shrewd marten
But bloop those are pretty insanely high invested teams needed with niche units
slow sky
still won anyways
stable tundra
Nita however feels impossible without ssilver (but he’s special cuz I saw that o...
SS Silver still needs SS N's help to keep up with the speed buffs
shrewd marten
Whereas geeta ncleaf ssmorty is just a bunch of good units
slow sky
lmao
stable tundra
he as the standalone debuffer is not good at that
shrewd marten
I plopped them together and leon is doable
shrewd marten
Well yeah I was doing it and then I missed crit and was like fuck it
And then I saw ur clear
So I was ok leaving it undone
But also like
slow sky
yeah need rng
slow sky
but its toned down alot compared to my first clear
shrewd marten
These units are niche and or need to be highly invested
slow sky
first clear needed a 30% chance passive to proc 3/5 times
which is rng hell
on top of needing sunny day mprs
shrewd marten
Where’s 3/5 geeta isn’t exactly an unusual thing to have kek
It’s why I find leon less hard
shrewd marten
first clear needed a 30% chance passive to proc 3/5 times
I almost did with 2/5 ssmorty
Don’t even need initial mind body sunny day brace
shrewd marten
But again badge ncleaf why u not soften up
Basically what I’m saying is Leon’s ub isn’t easier just cuz we have rats
It’s cuz it’s just easier than the shit Nita wants
slow sky
Nita has too much bullshit
sure crit after sync isnt a joke there
besides the many other mechanics she got
boreal abyss
Be glad she is not in rally atm
stone scarab
i am very glad that neither Leon nor Nita is in there
boreal abyss
True
slow sky
100%
gritty vine
Let’s get crakin
rotund oasis
I think theyll update rally in the future though. .-. with leon and nita
modern portal
<@1070915442819993681> is this the actual grid you used or is it a fail
LMFAOOO.
shrewd marten
I think theyll update rally in the future though. .-. with leon and nita
O course
We dread the day that happens is all
uncut drum
I think theyll update rally in the future though. .-. with leon and nita
And whoever they'll bring next in July
I just hope for an easier battle please
uncut drum
Poison is way too limited I think in terms of potential counters
Though like maybe they could design it for Geeta
stable storm
Who’s the next big type we haven’t had yet?
fairy
low coral
The next big type is Psychic
Poison is not a big type, it's a limited one with select few busted units
Mainly Roxie and Oleana, but also Geeta and Emma
There's s DRASTIC fall in quality after that
uncut drum
Dark type could also work, there's Champion Marnie, Akari and now Brycen Man. They could also use this to promote their Dark/Ghost HSE
final yacht
I would even say there's an Iris Fall in quality 
stable storm
I think they meant strength by big and not size?
low coral
by big but not size 