#Extreme, Ultimate & Challenge Battles

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low coral
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Well, didn't you have the Ice core as well as NC Cheren?

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You should have the tools, just gotta use them like the clears recorded did

leaden dagger
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I kept trying numerous times but they won't buff out the damage

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Red gets demolished first sync, irida never does much, nc blue is too packed that I can't heal in time while buffing defenses

fast pendant
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have you watched the clears?

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Like I said you should about 7 hours ago

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You have the units and you have recorded evidence that they work, if you're not putting the effort to watch and replicate them, there's nothing anyone can do for you.

exotic dome
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Follow the videos example as runner is suggesting. This extreme battle is so specific when it comes to move queueing that you cannot afford to miss anything. One move into sand and you will never be able to debuff speed again bc they boosted it too many times

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i tried casually at reset and failed twice using the nc red/zap and irida combo (all fully invested) bc i was messing just 1 turn order

earnest panther
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there are three things that you need to know about the Irida/NCRed/NCBlue comp

  1. YOU NEED TO SPAM ICY WIND, Do NOT use Irida's Ice beam whatsoever.
  2. You need to turn deny at least twice in order for your damage to be substantial. Icy wind must take priority in move queue. ANY +1 speed will triple Nita's defenses.
  3. BEWARE OF DISCHARGE. Once it paralyzes everyone, just focus on Spamming Blizzard to KO sides first.
waxen bear
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Got it!!!!

leaden dagger
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Yeah still not possible, I'm not gonna be able to do enough damage and have no reason for raising red or of 1/5, so I'm giving up

craggy wind
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Cant believe this Nita one so difficult

north chasm
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nice try dena i’m still not fighting your 1% rates

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(i already did) (bianca took me to pity like always) (not pulling cheren dont have gems)

boreal abyss
distant estuary
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Okay, okay, no more teasing. My condolences

boreal abyss
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Time to retry with uh, acerola comp till I have will to

gritty vine
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might have to candy irida soon....

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...i cant, my tech candies are so in demand

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i have 3

earnest panther
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you know, i'm more impressed that no one has done a NC Serena clear yet

gritty vine
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frick

distant estuary
earnest panther
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considering her debuffs are random but 5 times in a row. maybe with good RNG

north chasm
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master fairs take me to pity more often than not nowadays its ass

distant estuary
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I doubt NC Serena is possible

north chasm
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i’ve only been getting 1 per batch recently

leaden dagger
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The debuffs are too random

shrewd marten
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I tried accerola she gets fuckin obliterated

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Utterly walloped by earth power

boreal abyss
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She got pretty far on my end

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Problem is I need to manage better turns after sync

exotic dome
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You can use ncleaf flare blitz to double them

fading walrus
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Yeah you need -1/2 drops from shuriken in first couple turns

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Once that's done you can keep them in check

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Sides can be problematic in lategame tjo

exotic dome
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They can be flinched

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And also in that team you have double potions

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Just a matter of time someone will come up with the team

final yacht
low coral
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NC Serena got better partners

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At least I don't see much reason for Variety Lyra / KriSS not working

snow spruce
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Turn on enemy hp % + use Ice wishes at the right timings is the main thing.
Other than that it was just mindless IW and damage spam, cant really wipe if their speed buffing is kept in check. Didnt bother with any quad queueing, potion refresh wasnt needed

Still the hardest UB obviously, thank god everyone was 3/5 or higher

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SS Kris is somewhat bad against physical damage, would that be an issue?

low coral
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Idts, you probably can handle between Team Stoic and both Lyra and Serena having Attack drops

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Lyra also has team crit immunity, if that's what you're worried about

leaden dagger
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Can 3/5 irida work against anabel? I'm probably gonna be so dumb going after her

low coral
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Well, if you use her tools right, yeah, she's a good choice vs Anabel

tight quail
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I've got 3/5 Articuno, but only 1/5 glaceon. The speed buff part AND the sandstorm part are both extremely punishing. Super agreessive speed buffs. What do I use here? I also have zapdos, aura lucario, black kyurem, moltres, suicune, etc all fully invested. Does glaceon need to be 3/5?

low coral
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But you gotta actually use them

leaden dagger
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Nevermind, still not possible

hearty cedar
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Some jp players are cooking

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Ss acerola has speed debuff chance per hit and has bullet seed

boreal abyss
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I am trying smth with her too rn

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Just have yet to restart doing it cuz feeling lazy atm haha

hearty cedar
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Take care of your sanity first mate

boreal abyss
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It’s not ok by base so we go

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Easy

hearty cedar
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So, did your run get recorded in the replays?

leaden dagger
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Wait does anabel actively need 3/5 cerena?

hearty cedar
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Or are you doing the run again to record it?

boreal abyss
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No but I recorded a better one

leaden dagger
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If so then yeah this is impossible

boreal abyss
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And it’s up

hearty cedar
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And weather change

boreal abyss
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If blue flinched at the very end for eq, even Steven would have been alive, with like 3% health

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Sadly he flinched after eq

leaden dagger
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Well irida does that, but she still does way too much damage

boreal abyss
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But it’s ok, battle was over for Nita already

hearty cedar
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Ss kris + 1/5 c serena + great nuker(preferably nc.cheren) should be able to win easily against anabel

leaden dagger
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Don't have sskris

hearty cedar
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Ss mina then?

leaden dagger
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Nope

hearty cedar
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Nc.blue then?

leaden dagger
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I basically have no rain support

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Scroll up and you'll see what I tried to use

hearty cedar
leaden dagger
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Nope

hearty cedar
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Archie?

leaden dagger
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Yes on him but 1/5

hearty cedar
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Nah archie aint cutting it

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You have nc red?

leaden dagger
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He ain't doing anything, he's getting instantly annihilated

hearty cedar
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Nc.blue + nc.red + irida should win lol

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Do you have sstr?

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Red and pika i mean

leaden dagger
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I can try with sst but I don't count on him working cause she heals the status rendering the debuffs gone

whole field
fading walrus
tight quail
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Is this Nita eb possible With just 1/5 glaceon? And 3/5 Articuno?

whole field
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Jesus. Using ice types was harder than Tornadus!

fading walrus
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I'd think those 3 could clear anabel

fading walrus
tight quail
fading walrus
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Stagger or denial

low coral
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And I can't really play too much due to work

tight quail
fading walrus
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Stagger makes so you gain an extra turn of icy wind

low coral
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Some people wanted to do Grass core with Red, but Lyra might be better due to stuns

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And as I mentioned

leaden dagger
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Yep no chance still

waxen bear
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Another one bites the dust!

broken crag
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flop it gonna drop statisfying snarl on irida for hail extension

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they need to make weather infinite for UB for players

fading walrus
uncut drum
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This is exactly like Rafa's clear but I didn't use +10E on SS N

broken crag
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lol used this guys team but went for weather warrier red and hail extension irida and its alot easier

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nuked 90% of the sides HP on second sync h3h3xd

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and dropped from 80% to 50%

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for nita

boreal abyss
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forgot to show skill gears, so i wrote them in comments in a clear way for whoever needs it MallowHeart

low coral
fading walrus
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Wild

solar stirrup
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theres a recording of that clear?

sonic bear
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i got a newfound hate on nita battle

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but finally got a way to complete it

warm haven
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I couldnt beat nita with nc blue, sst red and nc but i got my revenge SeleneLul

atomic warren
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Worst stage in the game by far

warm haven
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Has more UB clears than maxie

low coral
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Legit really good clear

warm haven
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there it is

craggy wind
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I got close to clearing witg NC Red 3/5 EXR, Fall Roxanne 1/5 EXR and NC Blue 3/5 EXR

low coral
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Are you brute forcing the entire battle through sand?

fading walrus
slow sky
# solar stirrup theres a recording of that clear?

Personally, I do not recommend using this team. If you have NC Blue, please consider using him instead as he is more reliable in debuffing the enemies' offensive buff stacks.

Edit: Tried replicating my own win with my NC Blue team after this video and realize the win relies on rng as the "right time to flinch" will get you the win(I can't repli...

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onyx cedar
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this would be your team link

plush gale
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Gameplay : Timing is important in Nita's Ultimate Battle during which you need to keep an eye on Pep Rally 1, Sandstorms and Team Fast Track 9 Cause its Triple Nita's Team Defenses! During my First Multiple run's are not running well but on this Recording Run I was running Smooth.

Sync Pair(s) :

👑 Red (Champion) & Articuno
🔮 Irida & Glaceon
🌀...

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craggy wind
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I shall wait for Irida AcerolaPensive

plush gale
craggy wind
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Field TabithaHehe

shrewd marten
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Hopefully

silver spruce
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Zinfogel out here cooking with falkner as usual

shrewd marten
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@boreal abyss ANOTHER PIONEER

solar stirrup
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anni steven nc cheren variety falkner

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and people were complaining nc blue didnt do crap

lusty flare
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God Nita is making me feel so stupid. All these awesome clears and I cannot seem to make NC Blue, NC Red, and Irida work

shrewd marten
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liek what the hell does that have to do with ncblue

solar stirrup
shrewd marten
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i guess?

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i dont think anyone was/should have been saying that

solar stirrup
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yet variety falkner tanked until the last hit

shrewd marten
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hes still the best support

silver spruce
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Blue I kinda hate using with the ice team tbh

shrewd marten
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get paralyzed boi

silver spruce
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Para gets in the way of freeze

shrewd marten
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variety falkner does plenty dont get me wrong

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but him doing good here doesnt show anything about blue

silver spruce
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Falkner is not the best support for this stage but gets a really unique interaction that Zinfogel took advantage of

shrewd marten
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(i mean didnt dabbo literally do this exact clear but ncblue lol)

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yeah zinfogel giga brain with teh flinch into sleep

silver spruce
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I honestly think the easiest to replicate without para getting in the way is the grusha lapras clear

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but requires 4/5 grusha

shrewd marten
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rosa ur also suffering

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what is it with supports having 30% status conditions

silver spruce
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Yeah she's pretty good but I haven't invested in her

shrewd marten
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so after watching zinfogel clear

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i am confident in saying

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nita is the most oppressive ub

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annabel has passed her crown

silver spruce
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Yeah for sure

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Although the morty silver n clear is really cool

gritty vine
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i wnat to see if i can do the morty silve rn clear ngl

silver spruce
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It's expensive though

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5/5 for silver and min 4/5 for morty

gritty vine
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i have 3/5 silver and morty tho

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nah id win

stable storm
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Ig the team has enough offensive pressure

final yacht
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(he did not, in fact, win)

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it was just attempts

gritty vine
stable storm
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all 5/5

final yacht
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yeah sounds about right

stable storm
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I have seen 7 irida or nc cheren less clears so far with only 3 of them being nc redless

silver spruce
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makes sense, Red is the best ice type in the game

humble gyro
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still cant beat this trhing

silver spruce
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What's your team?

shrewd marten
humble gyro
silver spruce
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All 3/5?

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Ex role on red?

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@humble gyro

humble gyro
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fucking hell i finally got it

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yeah my mons are all upgraded like that

silver spruce
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congrats its definitely a challenge

humble gyro
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This was close, Lando used EQ and I had Irida and Cheren alive, thought it was over and Tornadus tanked on 3%

fossil fjord
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I just watched the Lapras clear in-game, that was wild

low coral
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Dang, I almost cooked

honest depot
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Actually insane

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God I love UB’s

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Nothing brings this community together more than struggling

jade marsh
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Got it SidneyYippee

stable storm
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non irida or nc cheren clear that I have seen number 8. That's a very small number

kind wasp
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Leon UB is better than Nita’s, atleast he didnt lie

gritty vine
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the land isnt blessed to us people

rotund oasis
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Blessed just means, get lucky ;_;

stable storm
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nita ub isn't blessed

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it's cursed

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seeing ice comp struggling on type.....

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never thought I would see the day

orchid bridge
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DeNA cooked too hard SophoKEK

stable tundra
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you guys complained about the lack of hard content
now you guys complain about the content being too hard

stable storm
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I want harder cs

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not ub

valid raft
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Trying NC Blue/SST Red/SS Acerola and it's initially working, but Red died to sure crit EQ

uncut saffron
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ALRIGHT

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WHICH ONE OF YOU USES NO-MF TEAM ON NITA

valid raft
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skinny maybe

stable tundra
jade marsh
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there's a 0 MF team?

stable tundra
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iirc it involves SS Morty and SS Silver

jade marsh
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ah

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i reckon Elaine / Ghetsis / Lyra is possible just because Elaine is a budget Blue

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that would be at least 2

stable storm
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I have seen 1 mfless clear

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of nita

stable storm
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.... accidentally pinged again

stable tundra
stable storm
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all 5/5 except ss N

stable tundra
stable storm
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that's limiting pair choice

stable tundra
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yes that's my point

stable storm
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the one thing I like about ubs is not placing any restrictions on you

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it's like the only end game game mode that does that

gritty vine
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i want a better endgame mode ngl

uncut saffron
stable storm
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ss N is good in ubs

agile wave
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No waaay

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An eggmon cleared nita ub!?

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☠️

stable storm
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egg lapras has more ub clears than Anni Lillie

eternal yarrow
rotund oasis
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yeah that Hippo can Sandstorm when Mid dies. Infinitely. 😮

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Just try again, you have the pairs o/

eternal yarrow
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And tried again i did that

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I had to configure NC Red’s grid as well, realized Hail on Sync isnt really needed

waxen bear
jade marsh
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Yes

craggy wind
craggy wind
jade marsh
craggy wind
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Oh wtf i didnt know sides did that

craggy wind
jade marsh
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Lyra always syncs except for 1 blue sync

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Editing the video it’ll be clearer

craggy wind
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Ok i shall try this

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Funny im removing NC red for Ghetsis but im expecting it to be better cus of the speed gimmicks

jade marsh
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nah red would be better

rich heron
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Both can work

craggy wind
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He syncs much better

valid raft
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Has Chase/NC Red/Irida been done?

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On Nita that is

craggy wind
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Sounds difficult

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Chase is Ground weak and opponents have piercing gaze

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To start with

craggy wind
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I cant do NC Red, Variety Lyra and NC Blue

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Anyone got that done

jade marsh
# jade marsh Got it <:SidneyYippee:992636893810409472>

The big headache with this clear is the juggling of all the things you need to do, because Nita wipes her stats every sync you need to reset Lyra's special defence debuffs and Blue's offensive debuffs every sync cycle while also fitting his buddy move in at the right time. On top of this you have to be really careful with Lyra's sync as you need...

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valid raft
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I wonder if SS Morty/SS May/NC Leaf would be viable

high harbor
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Im trying to beat leon with sst red, holi jasmine and nc silver, not good experience

prisma temple
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I never submit because I forget to take proofs/videos VolknerDed
I did this like few hours after reset, I am sure someone submitted it by now SophoKEK

shrewd marten
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This will be added to the area 10 pool eventually

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This is a net negative for everyone

stable storm
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are there any post nita sync 2 clears

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after she uses how are ya

stable tundra
stable storm
rotund oasis
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honestly, if we ever get it the new UBs in rotation, Apple Cup is going to be nice, ssince at that point, everyone would likely have 5-6 sync pairs per role bonus o.o

gentle mural
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It's still a net negative for no reason

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Unless they make a UB that's too hard even on Hard

stable tundra
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Leon and Nita say hi

gentle mural
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Other buffs exist for cheaper

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To the point that you could brute force them (at least on Hard)

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It would have to be some ungodly Tauros excrement to be uncompleteable on Hard even with 500 points worth of buffs to justify ever buying an Apple Cup

stable storm
slow sky
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main tank died, the other 2 were close to dead

broken crag
gentle mural
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But from the perspective of points maximization, it's never worth it

final yacht
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WEEZing that's some new level of submission

low coral
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Lol that happened to me once

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Back on the Bertha EBE

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My old phone didn't ignore calls

final yacht
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@fading walrus r u ruca burankee on yt ? Because if yes, are your NC Red and Irida really 5/5 ? CobalionSquint

slow sky
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i really cannot recreate the clear I did with NC Blue LOL

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really need the flinch to be on exact timings to get the clear

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getting the flinch too early/late can also screw up the run overall

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☠️

final yacht
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Hey @warm haven
first you have edit perms to the doc, surely you can add your clears yourself
and also if you click on this icon when searching for a sync pair it swaps to eggs and you can select your lapras SerenaSip also i'll need that lucky skill on lapras

boreal abyss
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How is the Nita experience going so far

stable storm
stable storm
boreal abyss
slow sky
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i give up trying to record a run for NC Blue with Cheren run LOL

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needing the flinch to occur at specific timings is just too much SophoKEK

spiral summit
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Now i’m scared future UB

boreal abyss
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Ironic how Cheren is actually the perfect counter to the insane speed buffing that UB has

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Actually really keeping in check her and her passives with ease

spiral summit
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I thought Irida will make this UB a joke

slow sky
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you will need flinch if you want to keep up with her speed buffs if you have to past 2nd sync

spiral summit
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But sadly she cant keep up with Nita’s speed buff

slow sky
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if not even Cheren cant keep her at negative stacks after she uses her stupid TM

boreal abyss
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Yeah irida is forced to stay on par

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If you can manage a good rotation post sync he can keep up too

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If you have b move ready

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The problem is going after second sync lmfao

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There you really need flinch

slow sky
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yup

spiral summit
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After Sync Nita just use X Speed All

slow sky
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if you flinch they are absolute helpless after 2nd sync

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they dont even queue anything

boreal abyss
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I noticed it lmfao

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She was struggling in endgame

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To even queue up hyper beam

slow sky
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if you dont debuff her at all... her attack stacks will really end your team

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☠️

boreal abyss
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Sadly blue had to flinch only after Steven fainted

slow sky
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6 stacks during her 2nd sync cycle

boreal abyss
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That 30%

final yacht
slow sky
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he is useful there then

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as long as he can stay alive

boreal abyss
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Could have got all three alive but hey, he survived till the last move, it's enough for me, someone had to faint, even blue was close, 1% health left

slow sky
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if SS Hau is ground weak tho...

boreal abyss
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He is hahah

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Sync is his demise

slow sky
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big oof

boreal abyss
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Sadge because he would have been a great option

slow sky
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ig dena knows wtf they are doing

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☠️

boreal abyss
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It do be like that

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But they don't know about Anni Steven and tech lapras techniques

shrewd marten
eternal yacht
shrewd marten
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It makes it far easier

shrewd marten
warm haven
final yacht
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I did

fading walrus
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I forgot to put in their 3/5

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Everything else should be right tho

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I even put 150 where needed

slow sky
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freeze/sleep/flinch doesnt stop TM tho

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☠️

nocturne arch
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Ok i still haven’t done to take on Hilda and Hilbert. So I’m keeping NC Rosa but who else is a good damage dealer?

valid raft
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Definitely Lodge Skyla for Hilda

rotund oasis
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Actual Do Not Disturb mode

final yacht
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yeah i have that too

waxen bear
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Mina Nita is going to drive me mad

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I’ve done this fight I think 57 times and I’m starting to slip

nocturne arch
final yacht
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Nita

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Not mina

waxen bear
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See!!! I’m losing my mind

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My current run is triple Head Start with one Adrenaline and 3 sync before she syncs once.

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It’s something I cooked up at 1am

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100% of my resets are because MORTY DOESNT WANT TO GIVE ME SUNNY DAY REFRESHES

elfin kindle
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Is there no way of beating Hilbert without NC Rosa? I have the new Cheren, but my Unova roster is next to none.

warm haven
waxen bear
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But Sunny Day refreshes kill runs

hearty cedar
waxen bear
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I usually end up killing Nita well before her second sync but then I have no sun for the sides

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And I die

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Cause God are the tanky

hearty cedar
waxen bear
hearty cedar
hearty cedar
elfin kindle
waxen bear
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I meant to go for the Believe!! Also should have used N’s channel attack for the damage reduction.

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But as you can see she just dies lol

warm haven
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5/5 ss n 💀

waxen bear
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Hey hes carried me through some tough times

low coral
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Hey, I got a 4/5 one despite only pulling for 1/5 SeleneLul

waxen bear
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He’s really good when for this specific UB

low coral
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One on his original run, one on triple Unova, 2 on Mix scare

waxen bear
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I got all 5 from his original run lol

low coral
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Jesus

waxen bear
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In my defense back then Strikers weren’t that great and he was a shiny new DPS who had a sync move for a regular ability

low coral
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Well, his DPS was pretty bad on release WulfricKEKW

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But at least Ice Zone helped it

warm haven
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He wasn't shiny at all CynthiaSmug

waxen bear
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I will not stand for this N Slander

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He’s carrying me through this UB(Ignore Silver)

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And Morty

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It’s all N

tacit hatch
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hm i have 3/5 NC Blue and 3/5 NC Cheren... wonder if it's worth candying Irida to 3/5 for Nita

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i have a decent number of tech candies

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but no NC Red to team up with Irida as her normal team

gentle mural
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Only if you like her enough or forsee future usage

tacit hatch
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i do like her, but i don't actually end up using her much

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i feel like i only pull her out for ontype CSMM which feels like a waste sort of

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but is she useful in endgame content besides this specific clear without NC Red?

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this might be the wrong channel 😅

gentle mural
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Idk I just use her as NC Red booster tbh

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Maybe in LG she can shine by herself

tacit hatch
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hm

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if i didn't use irida... that team would need another source of weather, nita needs x3 uses right?

valid raft
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4x if left side lives

tacit hatch
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ah hm i see

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i'm pretty sparse on weather setters honestly, irida might be my only limited setter

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oh and ingo but he sets sand

waxen bear
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The sides are soooo tank

valid raft
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They really want you to have NC Red

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But even his sync isn't enough to bring down the sides unless you bring a SEUN unit

boreal abyss
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That piece of trash not only brought me to pity, he ate 3 candies and had the courage of appearing on the free February tickets too, I was fuming lol 😂

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Did it mainly for his decisive theme

waxen bear
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That’s NC Calem

exotic dome
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That’s anni Steven WulfricKEKW

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Me, a fellow Steven Stan LarryDead

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Dabbo don’t event start

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I know what you are gonna say

boreal abyss
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Hahahahha

exotic dome
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Clearing weather is not gonna save him from the evidence he’s literally doing less single target damage than Nccheren regular move with AoE penalty LarryDead

boreal abyss
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All imma gonna say is, where is Anni Lillie in all of this UB madness?

exotic dome
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She’s waiting for the renegade Cynthia UB TabithaHehe

waxen bear
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I pulled 5/5 Anni Family and legit only use Magearna

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Lily got replaced by Irida not even 3 weeks later

fast pendant
#

Let it be heard that anni Steven has more UB clears than the other 5 early mfs combined

boreal abyss
#

Just re looked at the replay to be sure

exotic dome
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Yes, we made it, we have awaken other Steven enjoyers TabithaHehe

warm haven
exotic dome
boreal abyss
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Let him cook

waxen bear
exotic dome
boreal abyss
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Now i rest till next weather UB drops

exotic dome
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We still have a couple of battle facility foes to unleash in ubs

boreal abyss
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But still reminding he cleared Lucy and Darach too

exotic dome
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ingo and emmet sand UB when

boreal abyss
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He is missing on Thorton for obvious reasons, Leon and Palmer

warm haven
#

not another sand UB 💀

exotic dome
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Alright time for dahila rain UB

boreal abyss
#

Now we talking

exotic dome
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Or SSErika sun UB

boreal abyss
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Flying weak too and ggs

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Ludicolo time to get Anni steven'd

exotic dome
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My 2 cents is for SSCynthia and kommo-o fairy weak UB next

warm haven
#

dahlia may be a GT UB

low coral
#

Huh, now that I think about it, is there any UB character that has beaten itself?

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Leon prob got the best unit and partly deal with his gimmick, but his own UB can be hard

exotic dome
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Well I can see argenta cleared with argenta tanking tbf

warm haven
#

thorton can beat himself cheating with morty and leaf

boreal abyss
#

Bzweeep

warm haven
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same as anabel with cerena + ss kriss/ss mina

low coral
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Not counting doing duos with filler third

exotic dome
#

Vthorton can also apply restrain for the interference gimmick

low coral
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But you prob can do it with KriSS

warm haven
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I believe palmer will be able to beat himself with larry

low coral
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But that's duo with filler third

warm haven
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and idk about lucy, she's so easy everything seems like cheating lol

boreal abyss
#

So far all the battle facility foe units are getting UB right?

warm haven
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yeah

boreal abyss
#

Ok lemme jumpscare you with this

exotic dome
#

Yes I checked before

boreal abyss
#

Mega ray UB please lmfao

warm haven
#

s̶o̶o̶n̶ b̶a̶t̶t̶l̶e̶ l̶e̶g̶e̶n̶d̶ r̶e̶d̶ &̶ blu̶e̶

final yacht
warm haven
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With weather wipe

boreal abyss
#

Clear advantage 9

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We are already in

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😂

warm haven
#

he would prob be weak to dragon

boreal abyss
#

That would be funny and nice

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Hope it becomes reality

exotic dome
#

We might be getting one of those

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Wally, dahila or SSCynthia incoming WEEZing

boreal abyss
#

Oh shit giratina

low coral
#

Renegade Cynthia as a UB would be cool

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Restricted legendaries in general I feel are cooler as UBs than other battles

warm haven
#

yeah

low coral
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It's weird to see stuff like Articuno and Entei be much harder than any battle involving Ho-Oh, Solgaleo, Giratina, Mega Mewtwo Y, etc.

boreal abyss
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Craving for Cynthia and Steven UB just for being intimidated just looking at them

exotic dome
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And we’ll be getting steel UB Dana WEEZing

boreal abyss
exotic dome
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Gimmick
Rebuff
Defense buffs
Permanent ice zone

warm haven
#

inb4 zapdos dahlia

low coral
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And I still stand by the fact that Giovanni's final battle should've been made into a UB

boreal abyss
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That would have been nice

low coral
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Hoopa-Unbound felt like it had tons of buildup and no pay off lol

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It wasn't even Giovanni's center mon

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There was no unit for it

exotic dome
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It would be the only way for anni Lillie to win a UB WEEZing

boreal abyss
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The ghost weak stage Lmao

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She didn’t even get smth with Lucy?

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Zero?

agile wind
#

Finally I completed this UB...

frozen meteor
#

As the strongest sync pair, Irida fought the fraud the king of OU. She began to open her Ice Wish. Landorus shrunk back in fear, then Irida said "Stand proud Landorus. You are strong."

tame grove
#

I doubt I can defeat both Extreme Battles on time.

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I lack a lot of good Unova pairs and I can't waste my gems to pull Bianca and Cheren.

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I don't want to miss some gems, but unless I'm super lucky after Larry and Kabu, I can't battle Unova EB

jade marsh
shrewd marten
#

Ain’t no way

frozen meteor
candid crescent
frozen meteor
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and he's just a side mon for giovanni

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what a fraud

shrewd marten
#

Kek

frozen meteor
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weak to bug and dies to a literal hit

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so that's why

fading walrus
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Watch as pml2 arc builds up to hoopa-U and lear and it's absolutely broken

shrewd marten
#

I googled smogon

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He’s still in ou

shrewd marten
candid crescent
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Hes not the absolute god he was anymore

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Too much competition with paradox stuff

boreal abyss
hearty cedar
hearty cedar
fast pendant
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I'm just teasing, don't take it seriously

waxen bear
#

Another one down! The girl just know how to get stuff done

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Bellelba was clutch. 3 crit shields mmm

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All that’s left for me is Nita and Annabel

small basin
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Oh I thought that was nita for a second lol cuz the landscape

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I was about to ask HOW you managed that

low coral
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That was on the in-game replays, I believe

waxen bear
dim inlet
fading walrus
#

That's crazy

waxen bear
snow spruce
waxen bear
exotic dome
#

Lol

snow spruce
low coral
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Pretty great, keeping the Poisons alive is very annoying

waxen bear
waxen bear
fading walrus
#

To be fair

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Rolexed oleana and mina performed well off region for me even with ground moves involved

shrewd marten
#

And by core I mean roxie

fading walrus
#

Like, I used oleana in Hilbert EBE and she tanked first EQ without any buff

waxen bear
#

Did you just power through the sandstorm LOL

snow spruce
#

Its not my clear, its in the replays. But yes, sesm so

waxen bear
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That’s insane!? I don’t have Roxie sadly

shrewd marten
#

I’m pretty sure sandstorm only gives healing

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I didn’t notice a surging sand pop up

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But I could be wrong about that

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I didn’t do this ub a lot of times

fading walrus
#

Sand gives more speed raises

snow spruce
#

Speed buffs isnt an issue for Oleana

fading walrus
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And fuckton of hp back which isn't a huge deal when offtyping

waxen bear
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+2 instead of +1

fading walrus
#

But yea

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With oleana isn't a big deal

waxen bear
fading walrus
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Because you ramp more slowly

waxen bear
fading walrus
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So you can afford to have stage heal early when you're not slowballing

waxen bear
#

Kinda like my clear for Leon

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Gotcha

fading walrus
#

Btw Nita has Surging Sand 9

waxen bear
#

Gauge for days

shrewd marten
#

O lol

fading walrus
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Same do the sides

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All ss9

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  • sand blaster 9
north chasm
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trying to watch the replay that used tech lapras… i dont think it worked…

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(playback froze on this)

rotund oasis
warm haven
# north chasm trying to watch the replay that used tech lapras… i dont think it worked…

this is the video SidneyYippee
https://youtu.be/XPugAjzlHlI

My fav team got filtered because the couldnt get rid of any of Nita's gimmicks (and silver even making it worse by extending the sandstorm) but i got my reveng using eggmon lapras. Lapras is at 5* without the extra 20/20.
It got in the replay c:
Team setup:
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=029400097500&s0=4&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=24010101&t0=4...

▶ Play video
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but yeah the replay is bugged

violet tundra
#

i have irida and nc red but no nc blue.....trying to decide whod be the best support for nitas battle

silver spruce
#

Someone did it with melony

north chasm
#

video strats here helped a bunch i finally got it with just 1/5 irida thx chat

stable storm
#

ss hau would have been so amazing here if he wasn't ground weak

violet tundra
#

would ss blue work with irida and nc red?

small basin
mystic lion
#

Hilbert part 2 is bodying me KEKW My only Unova fighting is Marshall and he's paper thin and does no damage. What is the stage's gimmick? I deal like no damage.

rotund oasis
stable tundra
low coral
#

I missed the last queue and Hippowdon went from 2% to 9% after using Sandstorm when I could've Ice Beamed before it LarryDead

pale mica
#

I haven't even attempted the extreme battle rounds

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due to only two rebuff units and both are not from Kanto

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Bianca's emote is me right now

low coral
#

Nice, got it

jade marsh
#

nice

grave pendant
#

If anyone feels they can fully clear with this comp, feel free
Mine was from normal builds and a fuckton of procs from frozen, flinching and a bit of paralysis and confusion

gentle wharf
#

Unironically using Norman to paralyze lol

rotund oasis
#

Part 1 hrm

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Okay cleared but.... This doesnt count as 2 gym leaders?

#

Wait... Lenora isnt a gym leader? Wut?

stable storm
rotund oasis
#

hrmm

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ah wells. i changed Lenora for Nessa

cosmic token
#

Whitmas having a chance to shine.

agile wave
#

We have a cheren who's normal & gym leader btw RoxanneThis CherenEmbarrassed

cosmic token
#

Yes but he sucks.

primal leaf
left crow
#

Is nita doable with the frogs?

stable tundra
#

no frog team documented so far, so i assume no

left crow
#

Sadge

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I have ncred but he's 1/5

stable tundra
#

team sync reboot really hurts for Cerena

left crow
#

Sync reboot?

stable tundra
#

you can't duplicate any team documented in the pinned UB doc?

left crow
#

Nope, either i don't have a unit or too low a level

stable tundra
#

Nita is arguably the hardest UB, so don't feel bad about not being able to beat her

blazing forge
#

How are y'all doing the new ultimate battle? I tried with the nc red team but near the end he is getting OHKO'd by earthquake. Is it worth switching the lucky skill or is there a way out?

spiral summit
#

Did you use Protect ?

blazing forge
#

i used it before landorus synced

#

hm maybe i should save it for later then

spiral summit
#

Yup, save it for crit EQ is better

valid raft
#

SS Morty/Nessa/Redlax too easy on the BC

fading walrus
#

No ex needed

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exR on red tho

valid raft
#

Yeah, Red needs EXR to take out the sides

fading walrus
#

It's this one anyway

#

exR helps to kill mid fast enough more than killing sides

primal leaf
#

Anyone here know the strat and grids for 1/5 irida NC red NC Blue team?

night stream
#

This team ain't cutting it, right? Not even with godlike Spd debuffs RNG?

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Serena is +6

shadow vale
#

Does the middle in cheren ebe have tough skin or what, Bianca doesn't deal damage

fading walrus
#

Sentry entry X2/3 idr

shrewd marten
shadow vale
#

I thought mid doesn't have sentry entry that its the sides

velvet raven
shrewd marten
#

I wait for ssnemona Omni debuff unit

lunar sedge
#

We interrupt this UB program to bring you GOATdie

low coral
fading walrus
#

Doesn't change that stage has SEx2/3

#

Well even if it's only sides, it hinders a lot Phys pairs

shrewd marten
#

Bianca at 3/5 should be able to nuke it

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1/5 welllll

fading walrus
#

3/5 ofc does it ez

shrewd marten
fading walrus
#

BC

shrewd marten
#

Oh

low coral
fading walrus
#

2 gym
1 fire
1 normal

shrewd marten
#

But if ncred damage barely ekes out on type

#

Ain’t no way

fading walrus
shrewd marten
#

I’d need something that does damage and flinch/freeze

#

But ncred just clears anyway

#

This ub is so restrictive ugh

low coral
slow sky
#

unless her aoe move hits more than once or smth

low coral
#

Oh wait, just saw I actually recorded it in 720p this rather than 1080p, unfort

shrewd marten
#

Pixels baby

low coral
#

Forgot to reconfigure my recorder

low coral
#

They probably clicked the link when only 144p was available

shrewd marten
#

Well yes

#

See

low coral
#

720p should still be watchable, although the bitrate was also on medium rather than high

shrewd marten
#

I am experiencing pixels

#

But also I just find it really really dumb that ncred damage can barely carry through this ub

#

Cuz it’s on type

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Sure irida isn’t next to him but like

#

Brrrr

low coral
#

You have to close the video and open it again

slow sky
#

they should have not added the debuff clearing passive after sync

shrewd marten
#

Yeah debuff clear is awful

slow sky
#

without that passive its alot more doable with Irida and NC Red

shrewd marten
#

Idk who they were targeting with that specifically

#

Everyone I guess

#

It instantly fucks over most teams because she does x speed all

slow sky
#

if they really wanted ppl to use NC Cheren should have just given flying weakness

#

yeah

shrewd marten
#

Mmmm idk I think I’ll just throw in the towel and wait for another unit to appear before I try ncleaf

#

I don’t have ssmay

slow sky
#

without that debuff clearing nonsense its alot more easier

shrewd marten
#

Unrelated but debuff clear really fucks power play units like ncleaf and cerena

slow sky
#

yeah

#

thats why my clear with NC Leaf only had her sync once

shrewd marten
#

What did you clear her with?

#

Irida ncred?

slow sky
#

but uh, a +2 sync buff with some nuke, why not..

#

Uhh

#

SS Morty and NC Cheren

shrewd marten
#

Ah

#

About the same then

slow sky
#

she technically can multiply NC Cheren's debuff so yeah

#

altho I have her spamming Leer like 75% of the battle

shrewd marten
#

How come?

slow sky
#

in a bid to ensure the sides have as little or no positive offensive buffs

shrewd marten
#

Ah cuz refresh

#

Kek

slow sky
#

yeah

#

super annoying

#

then they buff attack right after 1st sync as well

shrewd marten
#

I’m just gonna say when all buffs remove it was annoying enough

#

Why’d they think debuff remove was less cancer

devout steppe
#

Didn't poma have a mechanism to clear buffs after syncing in the past?

slow sky
#

they do

shrewd marten
#

That is what I’m referencing

slow sky
#

(I wasnt playing back then tho)

shrewd marten
#

I was

fading walrus
#

Stages cleared player's buffs

shrewd marten
#

Weird times

slow sky
#

but I would be annoyed

#

having to rebuff again since the TMs all have limited MPs in the first place

shrewd marten
#

Just rebuff?

slow sky
#

as in

#

re-buff

shrewd marten
#

Oh yeah

slow sky
#

not that rebuff

shrewd marten
#

I understand

#

You see, what makes it worse is the general low power level of buffs

slow sky
#

altho, if they ever made an insane infinite buff support

shrewd marten
#

You either have to race through or halve it for the sync

slow sky
#

they MIGHT bring back that stupid mechanic just to piss player off if that unit is a MF

shrewd marten
#

Don’t give them ideas

slow sky
#

altho if you got units like Jacq with such kind of unit

#

mannn

shrewd marten
#

Technically Rosa is like that

slow sky
#

yeah

shrewd marten
#

But also this is why when people brought up a debuff removal ub I was so against it

slow sky
#

her buffs are pretty random but still pretty solid still

shrewd marten
#

It’s this kinda bs

slow sky
#

if they made the sides and mid not buff speed on every single move they use

#

maybe it wont be that bad

shrewd marten
#

Maybe

#

If they make it like Lucy

north chasm
fading walrus
#

But it's RNG hell

silver spruce
silver spruce
fading walrus
#

Y

valid raft
#

Are Cheren and Bianca's EBs gone now?

fair sorrel
#

Nope.

#

Have two resets left.

#

Ends on the 16th.

supple reef
#

who can i use for the 2 ebe?

chilly dawn
#

Ok, trying to slog this Lucy UB bc it's apparently easy, but SS Gio/Courtney/SS Morty isn't doing shit. Advice?

#

They die before lucy's second sync, just after proccing the second health threshold

#

Courtney can nuke but the sides are too fat to take anything from Bulldoze

#

And Morty doesn't keep people alive after seviper syncs

#

Gio is the only reliable damage but he's not enough

#

And yes they all have antitoxin.

spice seal
#

Same idk what it is

silver spruce
#

I mean Gio has antitoxin on grid and Morty has vigilance on grid. Give Gio vigilance and go from there. I assume you’re syncing with Courtney for the better nuke?

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@chilly dawn

hearty cedar
chilly dawn
#

Courtney first, Gio second bc Gio's sync hits the threshold

silver spruce
#

Morty should be first then Courtney

chilly dawn
#

No point wasting Courtney's sync when half of it is eaten by the threshold

#

Oh yeah morty first, assumed that was a given

silver spruce
#

Then Gio to chip sides if needed

chilly dawn
#

Morty, courtney, gio, then you never get to fourth sync

silver spruce
#

What about a max move to proc the threshold so Courtney can get a full sync

#

All 3/5?

chilly dawn
#

Gio is 5

#

All EX, Morty EXR

silver spruce
#

That’s the same setup I have gimme some time to fiddle

#

Should be clear able with that team though

exotic dome
#

It is one of the best teams to clear it tbf

#

I’ll give it a try rn

supple reef
silver spruce
#

Got it

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Run cs 2 on Gio and antitoxin on rest

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Sunny day with morty turn one. I picked up max countdown on gio and used the max move to get the threshold to 80% after first sync. Then used mega kick to chip nidoking down until the 40% threshold was cleared. Also pick up earthen opening sync from courtney.

Used ground wish before courtney second sync and before her third sync

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Killed Lucy just before used sure crit all and then lobbed off the remaining 20% on nidoking. Then used a final sync to kill nidoqueen into a mega kick

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@chilly dawn

chilly dawn
#

how tf do you afford max countdown for gio without buying extra grid energy

silver spruce
#

I didnt sync with gio so had extra energy

chilly dawn
#

managed it in the end, swapped out gio for nc leaf

#

she had antitoxin from rally shenanigans anyway

#

turns out courtney can just DPS the majority of it

silver spruce
#

Leaf didnt need antitoxin btw

#

She has team solar immunity

chilly dawn
#

ran out of sun about two thirds of the way through

silver spruce
#

3/5 leaf?

chilly dawn
#

yeah

silver spruce
#

You have four five uses of sun between her and morty if you pick uo solar sync and drought alert

chilly dawn
#

even with drought alert, it doesn't last long enough

silver spruce
#

Thats without sunny day mor

chilly dawn
#

it'd be nice if that corner of the grid had much else of use but solar sync is in the barrens so it's skipped

silver spruce
#

I personally always pick it up but i get your point

chilly dawn
#

the only other thing down there maybe worth getting is flabbergast

#

and I've needed Endurance on Leaf too much

#

and then in2in and power play are mandatory

#

well, assuming she's going to have some output, which she kinda needs to shore off a lot of the dps issues I have

silver spruce
#

Her dps is decent

#

Flare blitz is powerful

#

I just go through mighty afflicter and grab a sync tile

faint goblet
#

The Hilbert EBE still only has all-Limited teams in the document? It's that bad, huh

formal crescent
#

How can I do the Battle Challenge Part 2 for Strongest Fighters while fulfilling my the quests with my roster?

#

(3 passionate spirits for one quest, and one pair from Galar and one from Kalos for the other)

#

Should I build two separate teams?

distant estuary
#

Still took a few tries but after upgrading Irida to 3/5, was able to clear Nita. One hard challenge done.

#

I remind you, if you're having great difficulty on doing UBs, it is okay to pull on a new masterfair to increase your chances of clearing these challenges~

#

(Or don't, and make an unique team up tp you)

small basin
#

it aint worth pulling just for 300 gems

#

i'll clear it when i clear it

silver spruce
#

Atleast we’re seeing variety out of the nita clears. Leons have just been depressing boring

small basin
#

i've done it a good couple dozen times with what i have and i simply just dont have what i need to that can counter the stage

no irida and no nc cheren is a big roadblock though lol

silver spruce
#

I think red is the bigger roadblock

#

Irida is great but reds DPS is hard to match

small basin
#

i mean i have exr 3/5 nc red and my big issue is just keeping speed in check

distant estuary
small basin
#

her raising speed by 4 pre-second sync is deadly

distant estuary
#

Though

silver spruce
#

The speed is definitely an issue but red is almost needed to sync

small basin
#

for sure

distant estuary
#

I do wish they would remove the red ! checkmark about ultimate battles

silver spruce
#

I’ve seen ghetsis and ss Morty cover the stage gimmick

small basin
#

real

#

that was with irida though

silver spruce
#

If you feel like gambling you could run the ropalme strat of ss acerola and ss Lyra

#

Pray for speed debuffs

small basin
#

closest i've gotten was with 3/5 ss kris, 1/5 bt leon and 3/5 exr red

distant estuary
#

I can ignore it because I'm used to it a lot but newbies are gonna be a bit annoyed or overwhelmed, imagine seeing most top teams be masterfairs

#

It feels a bit pressuring

silver spruce
#

The issue is it’s either top tier Masterfair or whale level pokefair investment

distant estuary
#

8 UBs but need specific limited units most of times

silver spruce
#

Lucy and darach are the standard of what the UB should be. They have a gimmick but also can be done with a myriad of options

#

I like the harder ones but they can get annoying at times

distant estuary
#

Nita should've been 600 gems or more

#

It's just that difficult

small basin
#

I'd say its worse than anabel lmao

#

Cuz even then you have other options outside of nc serena just cuz water is such a saturated type with good units

silver spruce
#

It’s close but anabel atleast doesn’t spam spread damage

small basin
#

The same cant exactly be said for ice that has like 2 really good ones

silver spruce
#

Silver and n are good but need a lot of carrying to work well here

distant estuary
#

Yea which is irida and nc red

#

There's just that disparity

distant estuary
#

Depending on irida's exr

#

It'll grow more

silver spruce
#

The ss Morty clear with them is neat but a lot of investment

distant estuary
#

Esp. if irida gets support exr

small basin
#

I tried to copy the one team in the popular clears section with 5/5 silver, 1/5 n and 5/5 morty
But instead I used 5/5 n 1/5 silver and 4/5 morty
It's unfortunately night and day MortySigh I wish ss n's grid was better

#

Really hoping strike ex will make ss n a bit better

#

Sprint would make me cry lol

distant estuary
#

Irida would be a sell if she got exr support

silver spruce
#

Silvers 4/5 5/5 tiles are crucial unfortunately

distant estuary
#

3/5 can alrdy extend ice zone

small basin
#

Yeah for the defense debuffs

small basin
#

I'd rather another use of ice zone than a x2 buff

silver spruce
#

I have her and giving her field with hail on sync would be amazing

small basin
#

Exactly

#

Plus we're still pretty saturated with tech-supports

distant estuary
#

Hm... that's true...

silver spruce
#

We have more tech to strike than we do tech to support

distant estuary
#

Well, powercreep is going to catch up eventually but that'll be ages from now

small basin
#

5th year anni we get double ex roles trust

#

anni unit will be strike, exr tech, exr+ support

distant estuary
#

I hope 5th anni > 3rd anni

#

But that may be a little difficult considering 3rd anni were given best exr treatment

small basin
#

Poor ash MortySigh

shrewd marten
distant estuary
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I'm expecting our first sprint masterfair though

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Tbh i don't wanna see fairy ub though for awhile longer

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I only have 1 limited fairy, you can guess by name 💀

small basin
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diantha!

shrewd marten
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He who d be fields

agile wind
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LFG

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I hope so at least

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Sprint, with Tech as EX Role

fading walrus
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Sprint with field ex (dragon zone)

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Korai field (fighting zone) with sprint ex

formal crescent
silver spruce
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Then swap misty for hop and a Kalos pair for elesa

faint goblet
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Vaporeon may be useful. The boss has both Tough Cookie and Smart Cookie, plus six buff stacks worth of entries. Haze everything off and sync nuke the water-weak sidekicks while someone else fights the boss

chilly dawn
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Seconding Vaporeon. This fight revolves around clearing their buffs.

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as for Kalos/Galar... Yeah no offense, that roster ain't doing both in one.

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do the kalos/galar separately when you can bring better units to bear

shrewd marten
fading walrus
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Why

shrewd marten
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Because we have a lot of fighting already

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So it’s deincentivize to summon it

fading walrus
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Well that's surely true

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At the same time

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She's like my least favourite master fair so I would only like her to finally get the last nail in her coffin

shrewd marten
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I see no negative bias

fading walrus
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She's imo also lost quite the value since her release

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Without sprint exR she'd be pretty much forgotten I feel

shrewd marten
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Hm

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I honestly don’t think that’s true because instant +6 is still valuable

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We do have other good defensive supports now

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But for people like ncblue that first hit can still hurt

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Sprint bumps her up by a lot tho

stable storm
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could fairy comp do nita ub?

stable storm
kind wasp
stable storm
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the hardest one yet

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idt it's even that close with Anabel

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it ismuch more restrictive

low coral
stable storm
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Has there been any ss glad comp beating nita then?

low coral
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Idts, Gladion's matchup is not very good here

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He doesn't deal with any gimmicks, nor does his usual partners, making his damage lesser than usual

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The closest is SS Mina dealing with Sandstorm, which is the lesser gimmick, and Gladion doesn't really have much damage to afford waiting until 80% with sand up

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You might win using the two big counters, but it's much less impressive when you're forced to run either Irida or NC Cheren

shrewd marten
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Tbh the problem is speed debuff isn’t very common

stable storm
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also the sync reboot removing -spa

shrewd marten
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Good speed down units are rare

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And it so happens the ones that are good are the carries (naturally)

low coral
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Idt that's even the problem by itself, we do have quite a few Speed debuffers that are good

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Nita simply doesn't let you keep up with a common debuff pace, however

shrewd marten
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She wants above average speed down

low coral
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You have to actually be good at debuffing Speed, not just average